Q3 2026 Major Drilling Group International Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Ryan Hanley. You may begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. As mentioned, we'd like to welcome you to MAJOR DRILLING GROUP IN Q1 for the third quarter of fiscal 2026.
Ryan Hanley: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. As mentioned, we'd like to welcome you to Major Drilling's conference call for Q3 of fiscal 2026. With me on the call today are Denis Larocque, President and CEO, and Ian Ross, CFO. Our results were released last night and can be found on our website at www.majordrilling.com. We also invite you to visit our website for further information. Before we get started, we'd like to caution you that during this conference call, we will be making forward-looking statements about future events or the future financial performance of the company. These statements are forward-looking in nature, and actual events or results may differ materially from those currently anticipated in such statements. I'll now turn the presentation over to Denis Larocque, President and CEO.
Ryan Hanley: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. As mentioned, we'd like to welcome you to Major Drilling's conference call for Q3 of fiscal 2026. With me on the call today are Denis Larocque, President and CEO, and Ian Ross, CFO. Our results were released last night and can be found on our website at www.majordrilling.com. We also invite you to visit our website for further information. Before we get started, we'd like to caution you that during this conference call, we will be making forward-looking statements about future events or the future financial performance of the company. These statements are forward-looking in nature, and actual events or results may differ materially from those currently anticipated in such statements. I'll now turn the presentation over to Denis Larocque, President and CEO.
Speaker #2: With me on the call today are Danila Rock, President and CEO, and Ian Ross, CFO. Our results were released last night and can be found on our website at www.majordrilling.com.
Speaker #2: We also invite you to visit our website for further information. Before we get started, we'd like to caution you that during this conference call, we will be making forward-looking statements about future events or the future financial performance of the company.
Speaker #2: These statements are forward-looking in nature and actual events or results may differ materially from those currently anticipated in such statements. I'll now turn the presentation over to Danila Rock, President and CEO.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Ryan. And good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us today to discuss our third-quarter results. While the third quarter is typically the weakest of our fiscal year, as customers pause for pause operations for the holiday period, we began aggressively preparing for what is shaping up to be a very busy year.
Denis Larocque: Thank you, Ryan. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q3 results. While Q3 is typically the weakest of our fiscal year, as customers pause operations for the holiday period, we began aggressively preparing for what is shaping up to be a very busy year. Over the last several weeks, many of our senior mining customers have released their exploration budgets, with some pointing to increases of 30%+, while others look to almost double their budgets when compared to last year. Meanwhile, the juniors remain well supported, having raised substantial capital for exploration in H2 2025 and continuing into 2026.
Denis Larocque: Thank you, Ryan. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q3 results. While Q3 is typically the weakest of our fiscal year, as customers pause operations for the holiday period, we began aggressively preparing for what is shaping up to be a very busy year. Over the last several weeks, many of our senior mining customers have released their exploration budgets, with some pointing to increases of 30%+, while others look to almost double their budgets when compared to last year. Meanwhile, the juniors remain well supported, having raised substantial capital for exploration in H2 2025 and continuing into 2026.
Speaker #3: Over the last several weeks, many of our senior mining customers have released their exploration budgets, with some pointing to increases of 30-plus percent while others look to almost double their budgets when compared to last year.
Speaker #3: Meanwhile, the juniors remain well supported, having raised substantial capital for exploration in the second half of 2025 and continuing into 2026. In preparation for a much busier year, we leverage our industry-leading balance sheet to ensure that we are as ready as possible completing additional maintenance above and beyond what we would normally look to do in the quarter to maximize the availability of rigs and support equipment.
Denis Larocque: In preparation for a much busier year, we leverage our industry-leading balance sheet to ensure that we are as ready as possible, completing additional maintenance above and beyond what we would normally look to do in the quarter to maximize the availability of rigs and support equipment. We also proactively ordered additional supplies to reduce the potential impact of any future supplier delays as demand for these items increases. Lastly, we retained and hired additional crews despite the slowdown in activity during the holiday season, as the industry is already beginning to experience labor challenges in some regions. With larger exploration budgets and record high commodity prices, we experienced a busier start to the year with a much busier January when compared to last year....
Denis Larocque: In preparation for a much busier year, we leverage our industry-leading balance sheet to ensure that we are as ready as possible, completing additional maintenance above and beyond what we would normally look to do in the quarter to maximize the availability of rigs and support equipment. We also proactively ordered additional supplies to reduce the potential impact of any future supplier delays as demand for these items increases. Lastly, we retained and hired additional crews despite the slowdown in activity during the holiday season, as the industry is already beginning to experience labor challenges in some regions. With larger exploration budgets and record high commodity prices, we experienced a busier start to the year with a much busier January when compared to last year....
Speaker #3: We also proactively ordered additional supplies to reduce the potential impact of any future supplier delays as demand for these items increases. Lastly, we retain and hire additional crews despite the slowdown in activity during the holiday season as the industry is already beginning to experience labor challenges in some regions.
Speaker #3: With larger exploration budgets and record-high commodity prices, we experience a busier start to the year with a much busier January when compared to last year.
Speaker #3: While the associated startup and mobilization costs also had a negative impact on margins, our revenue increased by 15% compared to the same quarter last year driven mostly by much higher activity levels in Canada and the US.
Denis Larocque: While the associated startup and mobilization costs also had a negative impact on margins, our revenue increased by 15% compared to the same quarter last year, driven mostly by much higher activity levels in Canada and US. With activity levels expected to continue to ramp up over the coming months as a result of significantly higher exploration budgets and a healthy financing market for juniors, we remain very optimistic heading into 2026. I'll discuss more of the outlook once Ian has taken us through the financials. Ian?
Denis Larocque: While the associated startup and mobilization costs also had a negative impact on margins, our revenue increased by 15% compared to the same quarter last year, driven mostly by much higher activity levels in Canada and US. With activity levels expected to continue to ramp up over the coming months as a result of significantly higher exploration budgets and a healthy financing market for juniors, we remain very optimistic heading into 2026. I'll discuss more of the outlook once Ian has taken us through the financials. Ian?
Speaker #3: With activity levels expected to continue to ramp up over the coming months as a result of significantly higher exploration budgets, and a healthy financing market for juniors, we remain very optimistic heading into 2026.
Speaker #3: I'll discuss more of the outlook once Ian has taken us through the financials. Ian?
Speaker #2: Thanks, Dani.
Ian Ross: Thanks, Denis. Revenue for Q3 was CAD 184.6 million, up 14.9% from the same period last year, driven primarily by Canada and the US, to a lesser extent, by further growth in Peru. This was partially offset by Australasia and the African region, which continued to be impacted by a slowdown of drilling operations with the company's largest customer in Indonesia, as discussed last quarter. The unfavorable foreign exchange transaction impact on revenue when compared to the effective rates for the same period last year, was approximately CAD 1 million. The impact on net earnings was minimal, as expenditures in foreign jurisdictions tend to be in the same currency as revenue. The overall adjusted gross margin percentage, excluding depreciation, was 14.3% for the quarter, compared to 19.5% for the same period last year.
Ian Ross: Thanks, Denis. Revenue for Q3 was CAD 184.6 million, up 14.9% from the same period last year, driven primarily by Canada and the US, to a lesser extent, by further growth in Peru. This was partially offset by Australasia and the African region, which continued to be impacted by a slowdown of drilling operations with the company's largest customer in Indonesia, as discussed last quarter. The unfavorable foreign exchange transaction impact on revenue when compared to the effective rates for the same period last year, was approximately CAD 1 million. The impact on net earnings was minimal, as expenditures in foreign jurisdictions tend to be in the same currency as revenue. The overall adjusted gross margin percentage, excluding depreciation, was 14.3% for the quarter, compared to 19.5% for the same period last year.
Speaker #3: Revenue for the third quarter was $184.6 million, up 14.9% from the same period last year, driven primarily by Canada and the US, and to a lesser extent by further growth in Peru.
Speaker #3: This was partially offset by Australasia and the African region, which continued to be impacted by a slowdown of drilling operations with the companies' largest customer in Indonesia.
Speaker #3: As discussed last quarter, the unfavorable foreign exchange transition impact on revenue when compared to the effective rates for the same period last year was approximately $1 million, while the impact on net earnings was minimal as expenditures and foreign jurisdictions tend to be in the same currency as revenue.
Speaker #3: The overall adjusted gross margin percentage, excluding depreciation, was 14.3% for the quarter compared to 19.5% for the same period last year. The decrease in margins was attributable to strategic steps taken to prepare for what is expected to be a much busier year.
Ian Ross: The decrease in margins was attributable to strategic steps taken to prepare for what is expected to be a much busier year. Increased startup and mobilization costs resulting from a busier January, and the termination of underperforming contracts in South America, to better position the region for improved profitability going forward. G&A costs of CAD 21.6 million were flat when compared to the prior year period, as annual wage adjustments were offset by reduced Explomin integration costs, which impacted results last year. The company generated EBITDA of CAD 5.1 million in the quarter, compared to CAD 7.8 million in the prior year period, with a net loss of CAD 10.8 million or CAD 0.13 per share, compared to a net loss of CAD 9.1 million or CAD 0.11 per share for the prior year period.
Ian Ross: The decrease in margins was attributable to strategic steps taken to prepare for what is expected to be a much busier year. Increased startup and mobilization costs resulting from a busier January, and the termination of underperforming contracts in South America, to better position the region for improved profitability going forward. G&A costs of CAD 21.6 million were flat when compared to the prior year period, as annual wage adjustments were offset by reduced Explomin integration costs, which impacted results last year. The company generated EBITDA of CAD 5.1 million in the quarter, compared to CAD 7.8 million in the prior year period, with a net loss of CAD 10.8 million or CAD 0.13 per share, compared to a net loss of CAD 9.1 million or CAD 0.11 per share for the prior year period.
Speaker #3: Increased startup and mobilization costs resulting from a busier January, and the termination of underperforming contracts in South America, to better position the region for improved profitability going forward.
Speaker #3: G&A costs of $21.6 million were flat when compared to the prior year period, as annual wage adjustments were offset by reduced expo min integration costs, which impacted results last year.
Speaker #3: The company generated EBITDA of $5.1 million in the quarter, compared to $7.8 million in the prior year period, with a net loss of $10.8 million, or $0.13 per share, compared to a net loss of $9.1 million, or $0.11 per share, for the prior year period.
Ian Ross: Despite the seasonally slow quarter and additional preparation costs, the company increased its net cash position by over CAD 25 million to CAD 39.6 million at quarter end, while total available liquidity increased to CAD 177.1 million. CapEx in the quarter totaled CAD 10.3 million, compared to CAD 12.6 million in the same period last year, with the addition of three new drill rigs and support equipment. The company also ramped up its fleet optimization and modernization efforts in preparation for a busier year, which resulted in the disposal of 13 older, less efficient rigs, bringing the total rig count to 697 rigs at quarter end.
Ian Ross: Despite the seasonally slow quarter and additional preparation costs, the company increased its net cash position by over CAD 25 million to CAD 39.6 million at quarter end, while total available liquidity increased to CAD 177.1 million. CapEx in the quarter totaled CAD 10.3 million, compared to CAD 12.6 million in the same period last year, with the addition of three new drill rigs and support equipment. The company also ramped up its fleet optimization and modernization efforts in preparation for a busier year, which resulted in the disposal of 13 older, less efficient rigs, bringing the total rig count to 697 rigs at quarter end.
Speaker #3: Despite the seasonally slow quarter and additional preparation costs, the company increased its net cash position by over $25 million to $39.6 million at quarter end, while total available liquidity increased to $177.1 million.
Speaker #3: CapEx in the quarter totaled $10.3 million, compared to $12.6 million in the same period last year. With the addition of three new drill rigs and support equipment, the company also ramped up its fleet optimization and modernization efforts in preparation for a busier year which resulted in the disposal of 13 older, less efficient rigs bringing the total rig count to 697 rigs at quarter end.
Speaker #3: The breakdown of our fleet and utilization in the quarter is as follows: 306 specialized drills at 49% utilization, 158 conventional drills at 53% utilization, 233 underground drills at 55% utilization, for a total of 697 drills at 52% utilization.
Ian Ross: The breakdown of our fleet utilization in the quarter is as follows: 306 specialized drills at 49% utilization, 158 conventional drills at 53% utilization, 233 underground drills at 55% utilization, for a total of 697 drills at 52% utilization. As we've previously noted, we define specialized work, not necessarily by the use of a specialized drill, but by work requiring a higher degree of technical expertise, access to remote locations, stringent safety standards, and other operational complexities. In Q3, specialized work accounted for 59% of our total revenue. We continue to see high levels of demand for our specialized services and expect this trend to continue as deposits become increasingly more challenging to find, with discoveries continuing to be made in remote locations.
Ian Ross: The breakdown of our fleet utilization in the quarter is as follows: 306 specialized drills at 49% utilization, 158 conventional drills at 53% utilization, 233 underground drills at 55% utilization, for a total of 697 drills at 52% utilization. As we've previously noted, we define specialized work, not necessarily by the use of a specialized drill, but by work requiring a higher degree of technical expertise, access to remote locations, stringent safety standards, and other operational complexities. In Q3, specialized work accounted for 59% of our total revenue. We continue to see high levels of demand for our specialized services and expect this trend to continue as deposits become increasingly more challenging to find, with discoveries continuing to be made in remote locations.
Speaker #3: As we've previously noted, we define specialized work not necessarily by the use of a specialized drill, but by work requiring a higher degree of technical expertise access to remote locations, stringent safety standards, and other operational complexities.
Speaker #3: In the third quarter, specialized work accounted for 59% of our total revenue. We continue to see high levels of demand for our specialized services and expect this trend to continue, as deposits become increasingly more challenging to find, with discoveries continuing to be made in remote locations.
Speaker #3: Conventional drilling declined to 12% of revenue for the quarter, while underground drilling contributed 29% of total revenue, providing a stable base of work largely in operating mines.
Ian Ross: Conventional drilling declined to 12% of revenue for the quarter, while underground drilling contributed 29% of total revenue, providing a stable base of work, largely in operating mines. We continue to see the bulk of our revenue driven by seniors and intermediates, representing 90% of revenue this quarter, as they continue their elevated efforts to address depleting reserves. With financing activity beginning to increase, juniors groups represent 10% of revenue in the quarter, an increase from the 8% recorded in the prior quarter, and 6% in the same period last year. In terms of commodities, gold represented 39% of revenue in the quarter, while copper accounted for 32%. Iron ore continues to make meaningful contribution at 8%, aided by our Australian operations and demonstrating the diversity in the commodities for which we drill for around the world.
Ian Ross: Conventional drilling declined to 12% of revenue for the quarter, while underground drilling contributed 29% of total revenue, providing a stable base of work, largely in operating mines. We continue to see the bulk of our revenue driven by seniors and intermediates, representing 90% of revenue this quarter, as they continue their elevated efforts to address depleting reserves. With financing activity beginning to increase, juniors groups represent 10% of revenue in the quarter, an increase from the 8% recorded in the prior quarter, and 6% in the same period last year. In terms of commodities, gold represented 39% of revenue in the quarter, while copper accounted for 32%. Iron ore continues to make meaningful contribution at 8%, aided by our Australian operations and demonstrating the diversity in the commodities for which we drill for around the world.
Speaker #3: We continue to see the bulk of our revenue driven by seniors' intermediates, representing 90% of revenue this quarter, as they continue their elevated efforts to address depleting reserves.
Speaker #3: With financing activity beginning to increase, juniors grew to represent 10% of revenue in the quarter and increased from the 8% recorded in the prior quarter and 6% in the same period last year.
Speaker #3: In terms of commodities, gold represented 39% of revenue in the quarter, while copper accounted for 32%. Iron ore continues to make meaningful contribution at 8%, aided by our Australian operations and demonstrating the diversity in the commodities for which we drill for around the world.
Ian Ross: Also of note in the Q3 was silver, which continued to represent 6% of revenue. With that overview of our financial results, I'll now turn the presentation back to Denis to discuss the outlook.
Ian Ross: Also of note in the Q3 was silver, which continued to represent 6% of revenue. With that overview of our financial results, I'll now turn the presentation back to Denis to discuss the outlook.
Speaker #3: Also of note in the third quarter was silver, which continued to represent 6% of revenue. With that overview of our financial results, I'll now turn the presentation back to Dani to discuss the outlook.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Ian. Looking ahead, having now completed the significant amount of prep work, we entered the fourth quarter of our fiscal year with a strong foundation in place to support many of our clients around the world with their larger exploration budgets and resource expansion goals.
Denis Larocque: Thanks, Ian. Looking ahead, having now completed a significant amount of prep work, we entered the Q4 of our fiscal year with a strong foundation in place to support many of our clients around the world with their larger exploration budgets and resource expansion goals. Aside from our well-maintained fleet of nearly 700 rigs, our optimal levels of inventory, and our experienced crews, we also remain well supported by our industry-leading balance sheet, as despite the additional preparation work which was completed in the quarter, we still increased our net cash position by over CAD 25 million. As activity levels ramp up through our fiscal Q4 and into fiscal 2027, we expect to gradually deploy additional rigs at incrementally higher pricing, driving steady revenue growth.
Denis Larocque: Thanks, Ian. Looking ahead, having now completed a significant amount of prep work, we entered the Q4 of our fiscal year with a strong foundation in place to support many of our clients around the world with their larger exploration budgets and resource expansion goals. Aside from our well-maintained fleet of nearly 700 rigs, our optimal levels of inventory, and our experienced crews, we also remain well supported by our industry-leading balance sheet, as despite the additional preparation work which was completed in the quarter, we still increased our net cash position by over CAD 25 million. As activity levels ramp up through our fiscal Q4 and into fiscal 2027, we expect to gradually deploy additional rigs at incrementally higher pricing, driving steady revenue growth.
Speaker #3: Aside from our well-maintained fleet of nearly 700 rigs, our optimal levels of inventory and our experienced crews, we also remain well-supported by our industry-leading balance sheet as, despite the additional preparation work which was completed in the quarter, we still increased our net cash position by over $25 million.
Speaker #3: As activity levels ramp up through our fiscal fourth quarter and into fiscal 2027, we expect to gradually deploy additional rigs at incrementally higher pricing driving steady revenue growth, while labor availability is expected to remain a near-term challenge and will continue to pressure margins.
Denis Larocque: While labor availability is expected to remain a near-term challenge and will continue to pressure margins, we anticipate that improving pricing will progressively offset these costs. Margins are expected to improve over time, but at a slower pace than revenue growth. Overall, we remain very optimistic heading into 2026, given our level of preparedness, combined with record high commodity prices, leading to significant increases in exploration budgets, as well as significant increases in the amount of capital raised by junior mining companies. In closing, I'd like to invite any customers or investors that will be attending the PDAC conference in Toronto next week to visit our booth. With record high commodity prices and a strong mining market, we're looking forward to a busy and very productive conference. With that, we can open the call to questions. Operator?
Denis Larocque: While labor availability is expected to remain a near-term challenge and will continue to pressure margins, we anticipate that improving pricing will progressively offset these costs. Margins are expected to improve over time, but at a slower pace than revenue growth. Overall, we remain very optimistic heading into 2026, given our level of preparedness, combined with record high commodity prices, leading to significant increases in exploration budgets, as well as significant increases in the amount of capital raised by junior mining companies. In closing, I'd like to invite any customers or investors that will be attending the PDAC conference in Toronto next week to visit our booth. With record high commodity prices and a strong mining market, we're looking forward to a busy and very productive conference. With that, we can open the call to questions. Operator?
Speaker #3: We anticipate that improving pricing will progressively offset these costs. As a result, margins are expected to improve over time, but at a slower pace than revenue growth.
Speaker #3: Overall, we remain very optimistic heading into 2026 given our level of preparedness combined with record-high commodity prices leading to significant increases in exploration budgets as well as significant increases in the amount of capital raised by junior mining companies.
Speaker #3: In closing, I'd like to invite any customers or investors that will be attending the PDAC conference in Toronto next week to visit our booth.
Speaker #3: With record-high commodity prices and a strong mining market, we're looking forward to a busy and very productive conference. With that, we can open the call to questions.
Speaker #3: Operator?
Speaker #2: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone, and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Gordon Lawson of Paradigm Capital. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Gordon Lawson of Paradigm Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Gordon Lawson of Paradigm Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, and thank you for taking my question. Can you elaborate on some of the strategic initiatives you mentioned being implemented in North America?
Gordon Lawson: Hey, good morning, and thank you for taking my question.
Gordon Lawson: Hey, good morning, and thank you for taking my question.
Denis Larocque: Good morning.
Denis Larocque: Good morning.
Gordon Lawson: Can you elaborate on some of the strategic initiatives you mentioned being implemented in North America? Just want some color on that.
Gordon Lawson: Can you elaborate on some of the strategic initiatives you mentioned being implemented in North America? Just want some color on that.
Speaker #4: I just wanted to color on that.
Speaker #3: Yes. Well, I mean, basically, it's just on the hiring and the retention of people. Typically, the way it works in our industry, when you get to Christmas, you don't know what's coming around after Christmas, and you let people go home and then you call them back when you get to January.
Denis Larocque: Yes. Well, I mean, basically, it's just on the hiring and the retention of people. Typically, the way it works in our industry, when you get to Christmas, you don't know what's coming around after Christmas, and you let people go home, and then you call them back when you get to January. This time around, we didn't run that chance. We held on to people during the Christmas break, and also, we also ramped up ahead of even, as we entered Q3 in November, we ramped up our efforts on training because we were anticipating 2026 to be busier.
Denis Larocque: Yes. Well, I mean, basically, it's just on the hiring and the retention of people. Typically, the way it works in our industry, when you get to Christmas, you don't know what's coming around after Christmas, and you let people go home, and then you call them back when you get to January. This time around, we didn't run that chance. We held on to people during the Christmas break, and also, we also ramped up ahead of even, as we entered Q3 in November, we ramped up our efforts on training because we were anticipating 2026 to be busier.
Speaker #3: And this time around, we didn't run that chance. We held on to people during the Christmas break, and also we also ramped up ahead of even as we entered the third quarter in November, we ramped up our efforts on training because we were anticipating 2026 to be busier.
Speaker #3: So therefore, we ramped up our recruitment, our training, to make sure that we would be able to increase our labor force and be able to put more rigs to work in 2026.
Denis Larocque: Therefore, we ramped up our recruitment, our training, to make sure that we would be able to increase our labor force and be able to put more rigs to work in 2026. And then on top of that, we took more rigs out of the yard to basically get ready again, to make sure that we were ready for an uptick in activity.
Denis Larocque: Therefore, we ramped up our recruitment, our training, to make sure that we would be able to increase our labor force and be able to put more rigs to work in 2026. And then on top of that, we took more rigs out of the yard to basically get ready again, to make sure that we were ready for an uptick in activity.
Speaker #3: So and then on top of that, we spent we took more rigs out of the yard to basically get ready again to make sure that we were ready for an uptick in activity.
Speaker #4: Okay. That's great. Looking at South America, are you able to comment on revenue synergies from Exploramen as well as your expectations on cost-cutting in the region?
Gordon Lawson: Okay, that's great. Looking at South America, are you able to comment on revenue synergies from Explomin, as well as your expectations on cost cutting in the region, specifically Peru?
Gordon Lawson: Okay, that's great. Looking at South America, are you able to comment on revenue synergies from Explomin, as well as your expectations on cost cutting in the region, specifically Peru?
Speaker #4: Specifically Peru.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Exploramen has been a great addition, but as a reminder, when we made this acquisition, we specifically pointed to the fact that it's a slightly different business model.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. Explomin has been a great addition. As a reminder, when we made this acquisition, we specifically pointed to the fact that it's a slightly different business model. It's more a volume play. It's because it has more underground than our typical operation, therefore, slightly lower margin by definition, but also, lower CapEx or assets. Therefore, the return on capital is similar to the rest of our operation, but just the mix or the revenue margin mix is a bit different. It's been good for us. Now, the region in general, we, as we mentioned, we repositioned.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. Explomin has been a great addition. As a reminder, when we made this acquisition, we specifically pointed to the fact that it's a slightly different business model. It's more a volume play. It's because it has more underground than our typical operation, therefore, slightly lower margin by definition, but also, lower CapEx or assets. Therefore, the return on capital is similar to the rest of our operation, but just the mix or the revenue margin mix is a bit different. It's been good for us. Now, the region in general, we, as we mentioned, we repositioned.
Speaker #3: It's more a volume play. It's because it has more underground than our typical operations. So therefore, slightly lower margins by definition. But also lower CapEx or so therefore, the return on capital is similar to the rest of our operation, but just the mix or the revenue margin mix is a bit different.
Speaker #3: So it's been good for us. Now, the region in general we as we mentioned, we repositioned. We had a few contracts, not just in Peru, but in other areas as well where we terminated underperforming contracts and moved on rigs.
Denis Larocque: We had a few contracts, not just in Peru, but in other areas as well, where we terminated underperforming contracts and moved on rigs, and that had an impact on the performance of the region. Yeah.
Denis Larocque: We had a few contracts, not just in Peru, but in other areas as well, where we terminated underperforming contracts and moved on rigs, and that had an impact on the performance of the region. Yeah.
Speaker #3: And that had an impact on the performance of the region. So yeah.
Speaker #4: No, that's great. Thank you very much.
Gordon Lawson: No, that's great. Thank you very much.
Gordon Lawson: No, that's great. Thank you very much.
Denis Larocque: Thank you.
Denis Larocque: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And our next question comes from Donangelo Volpe of Beacon Securities. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Donangelo Volpe of Beacon Securities. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Donangelo Volpe of Beacon Securities. Your line is open.
Donangelo Volpe: Hey, good morning, guys. just regarding the termination of the underperforming contracts in South America, just curious if new work has been sourced for these rigs, or if some of these rigs were included in the disposal of those 13 older rigs you guys discussed?
Donangelo Volpe: Hey, good morning, guys. just regarding the termination of the underperforming contracts in South America, just curious if new work has been sourced for these rigs, or if some of these rigs were included in the disposal of those 13 older rigs you guys discussed?
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, guys. Just regarding the termination of the underperforming contracts in South America, just curious if new work has been sourced for these rigs or if some of these rigs were included in the disposal of those 13 older rigs you guys discussed?
Speaker #3: Yeah. No, it didn't have any connection to disposal of rigs. That's basically globally. When we do in the third quarter, typically, that's where we bring rigs back in the shop, and that's where we may make decisions on if we should repair or basically dispose.
Denis Larocque: Yeah, no, it didn't have any connection to disposal of rigs. That's basically globally. When we do in the Q3, typically, that's where we bring rigs back in the shop, and that's where we make decisions on if we should repair or basically dispose. On the contracts, basically we did replace some, we did replace some of those contracts with better contracts, and so we expect to the performance of the region to improve in 2026.
Denis Larocque: Yeah, no, it didn't have any connection to disposal of rigs. That's basically globally. When we do in the Q3, typically, that's where we bring rigs back in the shop, and that's where we make decisions on if we should repair or basically dispose. On the contracts, basically we did replace some, we did replace some of those contracts with better contracts, and so we expect to the performance of the region to improve in 2026.
Speaker #3: So but on the contracts, basically, we did replace some we did replace some of those contracts with better contracts. And so we expect to the performance of the region to improve in 2026.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks for that. And then just moving over to CapEx, CapEx is currently trending a little bit below guidance. Just wondering if we should be expecting an uptick in CapEx for Q4.
Donangelo Volpe: Okay, thanks for that. Just moving over to CapEx. CapEx is currently trending a little bit below guidance. Just wondering if we should be expecting an uptick in CapEx for Q4?
Donangelo Volpe: Okay, thanks for that. Just moving over to CapEx. CapEx is currently trending a little bit below guidance. Just wondering if we should be expecting an uptick in CapEx for Q4?
Speaker #3: Yeah. There is some timing related to the lower CapEx in Q3, and we will see an uptick on the run rate we've had here going into Q4, but we will be below the $70 million guidance we had for fiscal '26.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. There is some timing related to the lower CapEx in Q3, we will see an uptick on the run rate we've had here going into Q4. We will be below the CAD 70 million guidance we had for fiscal 2026. We're just entering the budget season right now internally, and we'll be giving guidance on our fiscal 2027 CapEx amounts next quarter.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. There is some timing related to the lower CapEx in Q3, we will see an uptick on the run rate we've had here going into Q4. We will be below the CAD 70 million guidance we had for fiscal 2026. We're just entering the budget season right now internally, and we'll be giving guidance on our fiscal 2027 CapEx amounts next quarter.
Speaker #3: And then we're just entering the budget season right now internally, and we'll be giving guidance on our fiscal '27 CapEx amounts next quarter.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thank you. And then final one from me, just wanted to see if I can kind of quantify Canada/US because it was phenomenal growth.
Donangelo Volpe: Okay, thank you. Then, final one from me. Just wanted to see if I can kind of quantify Canada, US, because it was phenomenal growth year-over-year. Just wondering how much of the year-over-year growth was due to kind of the extension of programs through January, making it a strong year-over-year comparison, versus actually taking on new work?
Donangelo Volpe: Okay, thank you. Then, final one from me. Just wanted to see if I can kind of quantify Canada, US, because it was phenomenal growth year-over-year. Just wondering how much of the year-over-year growth was due to kind of the extension of programs through January, making it a strong year-over-year comparison, versus actually taking on new work?
Speaker #4: Year over year. So just wondering how much of the year-over-year growth was due to kind of the extension of programs through January making it a strong year-over-year comparison versus actually taking on new work?
Denis Larocque: The extension was not too dissimilar to last year or in terms of... Really, we had contracts that started earlier in. This is typical of when we are in this environment where commodity prices are good and where mining companies are eager to get out in the field. In years where things are slow, they usually, we're usually calling to get a start date, and then if things get pushed to February and then, you know, things drag. This year it was the opposite. It was customers calling, saying, Well, can you get there by this date? We want to get going because we've got... They've got a budget, and they wanna make sure that they're gonna be able to get through all the work that they have to do.
Denis Larocque: The extension was not too dissimilar to last year or in terms of... Really, we had contracts that started earlier in. This is typical of when we are in this environment where commodity prices are good and where mining companies are eager to get out in the field. In years where things are slow, they usually, we're usually calling to get a start date, and then if things get pushed to February and then, you know, things drag. This year it was the opposite. It was customers calling, saying, Well, can you get there by this date? We want to get going because we've got... They've got a budget, and they wanna make sure that they're gonna be able to get through all the work that they have to do.
Speaker #3: The extension was not too dissimilar to last year or in terms of well, really, we had contracts that started earlier in and this is typical of when we are in this environment where commodity prices are good and where mining companies are eager to get out in the field.
Speaker #3: In years where things are slow, they usually we're usually calling to get a start date, and then things get pushed to February, and then things drag.
Speaker #3: And this year, it was the opposite. It was customers calling saying, "Well, can you get there by this date?" And we want to get going because we've got they've got a budget, and they want to make sure that they're going to be able to get through all the work that they have to do.
Speaker #3: So there was so it was more related to the January startups earlier startups really.
Denis Larocque: It was more related to the, to the January startups, earlier startups, really.
Denis Larocque: It was more related to the, to the January startups, earlier startups, really.
Speaker #4: Okay, I appreciate the color, guys. I'll hop back in the queue.
Donangelo Volpe: Okay. I appreciate the color, guys. I'll hop back in the queue.
Donangelo Volpe: Okay. I appreciate the color, guys. I'll hop back in the queue.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Denis Larocque: Thank you.
Denis Larocque: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And as a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 11. And our next question comes from Brett Kearney of American Rebirth Opportunity Partners, your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star one one. Our next question comes from Brett Kearney of American Rebirth Opportunity Partners. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star one one. Our next question comes from Brett Kearney of American Rebirth Opportunity Partners. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.
Brett Kearney: Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.
Brett Kearney: Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.
Denis Larocque: Good morning. Morning.
Denis Larocque: Good morning. Morning.
Speaker #3: Good morning.
Speaker #4: Morning.
Speaker #5: Hey, you guys have continued to stay ahead of the curve in terms of preparing for the industry upturn. Your actions as most recent quarter consistent with that.
Brett Kearney: You guys have continued to stay ahead of the curve in terms of preparing for the industry upturn. Your actions this most recent Q are consistent with that. Just any color you can provide based on your experience, you know, past cycles, in terms of what you're seeing in overall tightness in the industry, both rigs available to customers from the rig owners, such as yourselves, as well as your ability to procure additional rigs and support equipment in terms of lead times from your suppliers?
Brett Kearney: You guys have continued to stay ahead of the curve in terms of preparing for the industry upturn. Your actions this most recent Q are consistent with that. Just any color you can provide based on your experience, you know, past cycles, in terms of what you're seeing in overall tightness in the industry, both rigs available to customers from the rig owners, such as yourselves, as well as your ability to procure additional rigs and support equipment in terms of lead times from your suppliers?
Speaker #5: Any color you can provide based on your experience past cycles in terms of what you're seeing in overall tightness in the industry both rigs available to customers from the rig owners such as yourselves as well as your ability to procure additional rigs and support equipment in terms of lead times from your suppliers?
Speaker #3: Yeah, it's already starting to get pretty tight on the rigs. In fact, and this is particularly in Canada and the U.S., when you talk to industry players, they're seeing it.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. It's already starting to get pretty tight on the rigs. In fact, this is particularly in Canada and US, when you talk to industry players, they're seeing it. In terms of the availability of rigs, it is, I would say probably taking a little bit longer, but still not necessarily a lot, because there was still capacity. It's not a rig issue, it's a people issue. When I say things are getting tight, it's more on crews than rigs. We know competitors that basically are struggling even just to put additional rigs just because they don't have any crews. It's more gonna be a labor issue than a rig issue.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. It's already starting to get pretty tight on the rigs. In fact, this is particularly in Canada and US, when you talk to industry players, they're seeing it. In terms of the availability of rigs, it is, I would say probably taking a little bit longer, but still not necessarily a lot, because there was still capacity. It's not a rig issue, it's a people issue. When I say things are getting tight, it's more on crews than rigs. We know competitors that basically are struggling even just to put additional rigs just because they don't have any crews. It's more gonna be a labor issue than a rig issue.
Speaker #3: In terms of the availability of rigs, it is I would say probably taking a little bit longer but still not necessarily a lot because there was still capacity.
Speaker #3: So, it's not a rig issue. It's a people issue. And when I say things are getting tight, it's more on crews than rigs. We know competitors that basically are struggling even just to put additional rigs out, just because they don't have any crews.
Speaker #3: So it's more going to be a labor issue than a rig issue. So that's why I'm saying the orders of rig is not necessarily we're not seeing a lot more delays than usual on the rig side.
Denis Larocque: That's why I'm saying it, the orders of rig is not necessarily, we're not seeing a lot more delays than usual on the rig side.
Denis Larocque: That's why I'm saying it, the orders of rig is not necessarily, we're not seeing a lot more delays than usual on the rig side.
Speaker #5: Okay.
Brett Kearney: Okay.
Brett Kearney: Okay.
Denis Larocque: I'll tell you though, having said that, the place where there's gonna be bottlenecks will be the supplies. That's the rods and the supplies and consumables. What happens is that, with more rigs going out in the field, everybody's ordering at the same time, most companies have been basically running on just in time and just having enough supplies to have the rigs running. When you have a whole bunch of rigs going out, you have all these orders, and that's why we placed orders, and we kept inventory higher because we've seen before in previous cycles where you have real bottlenecks because suppliers basically, they don't have enough on the shelf to supply all these, all that demand that comes in all at once.
Speaker #3: But I'll tell you, though, having said that, the place where there's going to be bottlenecks will be the supplies. That's the rods and the supplies and consumables because what happens is that with more rigs going out in the field, everybody's ordering at the same time because most companies have been basically running on just-in-time and just having enough supplies to have the rigs running.
Denis Larocque: I'll tell you though, having said that, the place where there's gonna be bottlenecks will be the supplies. That's the rods and the supplies and consumables. What happens is that, with more rigs going out in the field, everybody's ordering at the same time, most companies have been basically running on just in time and just having enough supplies to have the rigs running. When you have a whole bunch of rigs going out, you have all these orders, and that's why we placed orders, and we kept inventory higher because we've seen before in previous cycles where you have real bottlenecks because suppliers basically, they don't have enough on the shelf to supply all these, all that demand that comes in all at once.
Speaker #3: So when you have a whole bunch of rigs going out, you have all these orders, and that's why we placed orders and we kept inventory higher because we've seen before in previous cycles where you have real bottlenecks because suppliers basically, they don't have enough on the shelf to supply all these all that demand that comes in all at once.
Brett Kearney: Very helpful. Denis, with the incremental actions you've been taking, do you feel like labor is in an okay-ish position now to meet the activity ramp-up you guys are expecting this year?
Brett Kearney: Very helpful. Denis, with the incremental actions you've been taking, do you feel like labor is in an okay-ish position now to meet the activity ramp-up you guys are expecting this year?
Speaker #5: Very helpful. And Denis, with the incremental actions you've been taking, do you feel like labor is in an okay-ish position now to meet the activity ramp-up?
Speaker #5: You guys are expecting this year?
Speaker #3: Yeah. No, we feel pretty good. It's still our teams are still working hard, and still it's still not easy, but we are in good shape at this point.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. No, we feel pretty good. Our teams are still working hard and still it's not easy, but we are in good shape at this point.
Denis Larocque: Yeah. No, we feel pretty good. Our teams are still working hard and still it's not easy, but we are in good shape at this point.
Brett Kearney: Terrific. Thanks so much.
Brett Kearney: Terrific. Thanks so much.
Speaker #5: Terrific. Thanks so much.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And our next question comes from James Vail of Arcadia Advisors. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from James Vail of Arcadia Advisors. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from James Vail of Arcadia Advisors. Your line is open.
Speaker #4: Thank you and good morning. Just a very quick question. Suggest that margins were hurt by the incremental costs for future activity, plus the cost to terminate the underperforming contracts?
James Vail: Thank you. Good morning. Just a very quick question. You suggest that margins were hurt by the incremental costs for future activity, plus the cost to terminate the underperforming contracts. Can you put a number on those two so we can get an idea what the real margin experience was in the quarter?
James Vail: Thank you. Good morning. Just a very quick question. You suggest that margins were hurt by the incremental costs for future activity, plus the cost to terminate the underperforming contracts. Can you put a number on those two so we can get an idea what the real margin experience was in the quarter?
Speaker #4: And can you put a number on those two so we can get an idea of what the real margin experience was in the quarter?
Denis Larocque: I mean, when you look at last year, really, the margins. If those things hadn't been in place, the margins would probably be similar to last year.
Speaker #3: I mean, when you look at last year, really, the margins if those things hadn't been in place, the margins would probably be similar to last year.
Denis Larocque: I mean, when you look at last year, really, the margins. If those things hadn't been in place, the margins would probably be similar to last year.
James Vail: Okay.
James Vail: Okay.
Denis Larocque: Really, the difference in the margins between years are attributable to these items.
Denis Larocque: Really, the difference in the margins between years are attributable to these items.
Speaker #3: Really, the difference in the margins between years are attributable to these items.
Speaker #4: Okay. Okay. Great stuff. Thank you. Looking forward to what's next.
James Vail: Okay. Okay. Great stuff. Thank you. Looking forward to what's next.
James Vail: Okay. Okay. Great stuff. Thank you. Looking forward to what's next.
Denis Larocque: Thank you. Well, you've seen this in the previous cycle, right?
Denis Larocque: Thank you. Well, you've seen this in the previous cycle, right?
Speaker #3: Thank you. Well, you've seen this in the previous cycle, right? So?
James Vail: Well, it's been a long time coming.
James Vail: Well, it's been a long time coming.
Speaker #4: Well, but it's been a long time coming.
Denis Larocque: I agree.
Denis Larocque: I agree.
Speaker #3: I agree.
Speaker #4: All right. Thank you. Good luck.
James Vail: All right. Thank you. Good luck.
James Vail: All right. Thank you. Good luck.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Denis Larocque: Thank you.
Denis Larocque: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Denis Larocque for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Denis Larocque for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Denis Lerocq for closing remarks.
Denis Larocque: Well, thank you. As I said, for those of you in town in Toronto next week, please stop by our booth. Our teams are gonna be around, and looking to an exciting week and an exciting year for sure, with everything that's happening in the mining world. Well, thank you for attending today.
Denis Larocque: Well, thank you. As I said, for those of you in town in Toronto next week, please stop by our booth. Our teams are gonna be around, and looking to an exciting week and an exciting year for sure, with everything that's happening in the mining world. Well, thank you for attending today.
Speaker #3: Well, thank you. And as I said, for those of you in town in Toronto next week, please stop by our booth. Our teams are going to be around, and looking to an exciting week and an exciting year for sure with everything that's happening in the mining world.
Speaker #3: Well, thank you for attending today.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.