Q4 2025 Xponential Fitness Inc Earnings Call

February 26, 2026

Speaker #1: We remind you that during this conference call, we will make certain forward-looking statements, including discussions of our business outlook and financial projections. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from such expectations.

Speaker #1: For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 2025, to be filed with the SEC and subsequent filings with the SEC.

Operator: Greetings, welcome to the Xponential Fitness Q4 and full year 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Patricia Nearer, Investor Relations, to begin. Thank you.

Speaker #1: We assume no obligations to update the information provided on today's call. In addition, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures in this conference call.

Speaker #1: We use non-GAAP measures because we believe they provide useful information about our operating performance that should be considered by investors in conjunction with the GAAP measures that we provide.

Patricia Nearer: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining our conference call to discuss Xponential Fitness's Q4 and full year 2025 financial results. I am joined by Mike Nuzzo, Chief Executive Officer, and John Meloun, Chief Financial Officer. A recording of this call will be posted on the investor section of our website at investor.xponential.com. We remind you that during this conference call, we will make certain forward-looking statements, including discussions of our business outlook and financial projections. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from such expectations. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, to be filed with the SEC and subsequent filings with the SEC.

Patricia Nir: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining our conference call to discuss Xponential Fitness's Q4 and full year 2025 financial results. I am joined by Mike Nuzzo, Chief Executive Officer, and John Meloun, Chief Financial Officer. A recording of this call will be posted on the investor section of our website at investor.xponential.com. We remind you that during this conference call, we will make certain forward-looking statements, including discussions of our business outlook and financial projections. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from such expectations. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, to be filed with the SEC and subsequent filings with the SEC.

Speaker #1: A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings release that was issued earlier today prior to this call, and in the investor presentation available on our website.

Speaker #1: Please also note that all numbers reported in today's prepared remarks refer to global figures unless otherwise noted. As a reminder, in order to ensure period-over-period comparability, and consistent with our reporting methods since IPO, we present all KPIs on a pro forma basis, meaning for full KPI history presented, we only include brands that are under our ownership as of the current reporting period.

Speaker #1: For the period ended December 31st, 2025, this includes BFT, Club Pilates, Pure Bar, Stretch Lab, and Yoga 6. I will now turn the call over to Mike Nuzzo, CEO of Exponential Fitness.

Patricia Nearer: We assume no obligations to update the information provided on today's call. In addition, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures in this conference call. We use non-GAAP measures because we believe they provide useful information about our operating performance that should be considered by investors in conjunction with the GAAP measures that we provide. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings release that was issued earlier today prior to this call and in the investor presentation available on our website. Please also note that all numbers reported in today's prepared remarks... refer to global figures unless otherwise noted.

Patricia Nir: We assume no obligations to update the information provided on today's call. In addition, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures in this conference call. We use non-GAAP measures because we believe they provide useful information about our operating performance that should be considered by investors in conjunction with the GAAP measures that we provide. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings release that was issued earlier today prior to this call and in the investor presentation available on our website. Please also note that all numbers reported in today's prepared remarks... refer to global figures unless otherwise noted.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Patricia. And good afternoon, everyone. The fourth quarter played an important role in my continued integration into the business. Highlighted by our very productive and inspiring November franchise convention.

Speaker #2: The more time I spend with our teams, franchise partners, and members, the more conviction I gain in both our strengths and opportunities to drive long-term consistent growth.

Speaker #2: In 2025, we made important progress on several fronts. 201 net new studios opened, including our 1,414th Club Pilates studio. The power of this brand, the compelling four-wall economics, driven by an outstanding first-year sales ramp, and ongoing unit growth prospects, both domestically and internationally, continue to set the standard in the industry.

Patricia Nearer: As a reminder, in order to ensure period-over-period comparability and consistent with our reporting method since IPO, we present all KPIs on a pro forma basis, meaning for full KPI history presented, we only include brands that are under our ownership as of the current reporting period. For the period ended 31 December 2025, this includes BFT, Club Pilates, Pure Barre, StretchLab, and YogaSix. I will now turn the call over to Mike Nuzzo, CEO of Xponential Fitness.

Patricia Nir: As a reminder, in order to ensure period-over-period comparability and consistent with our reporting method since IPO, we present all KPIs on a pro forma basis, meaning for full KPI history presented, we only include brands that are under our ownership as of the current reporting period. For the period ended 31 December 2025, this includes BFT, Club Pilates, Pure Barre, StretchLab, and YogaSix. I will now turn the call over to Mike Nuzzo, CEO of Xponential Fitness.

Speaker #2: Achieved 1.75 billion in system-wide sales, driven by our growing franchise base, and strong brands. Graduated over 2,100 Pilates and over 3,000 bar instructors from our Exponential training programs, which represent a key asset for the business.

Mike Nuzzo: Thanks, Patricia, and good afternoon, everyone. The Q4 played an important role in my continued integration into the business, highlighted by our very productive and inspiring November franchise convention. The more time I spend with our teams, franchise partners, and members, the more conviction I gain in both our strengths and opportunities to drive long-term, consistent growth. In 2025, we made important progress on several fronts. 201 net new studios opened, including our 1,414th Club Pilates studio. The power of this brand, the compelling four-wall economics, driven by an outstanding first-year sales ramp and ongoing unit growth prospects, both domestically and internationally, continue to set the standard in the industry. Achieved $1.75 billion in system-wide sales, driven by our growing franchise base and strong brands.

Speaker #2: Completed the transition to an outsourced studio retail and merchandise partner. Closed our debt refinancing, providing a solid financial framework going forward, and accomplished key strategic brand divestitures and completed our important corporate reorganization.

Speaker #2: Despite this progress, we recognize there is meaningful work and opportunity ahead. These efforts, along with our strategic outlook and financial plan for 2026 and beyond, continue to be shaped by my commentary on three core themes.

Speaker #2: The strength of the boutique fitness segment, our global franchising platform of strong premium brands, and the opportunity to chart a clear path toward sustained long-term growth.

Speaker #2: Roughly a decade ago, Exponential was founded with a mission to bring boutique fitness to consumers across the US and the world. Since then, global franchisor of boutique fitness.

Mike Nuzzo: Graduated over 2,100 Pilates and over 3,000 Barre instructors from our Xponential training programs, which represent a key asset for the business. Completed the transition to an outsourced studio, retail, and merchandise partner. Closed our debt refinancing, providing a solid financial framework going forward, and accomplished key strategic brand divestitures and completed our important corporate reorganization. Despite this progress, we recognize there is meaningful work and opportunity ahead. These efforts, along with our strategic outlook and financial plan for 2026 and beyond, continue to be shaped by my commentary on three core themes: the strength of the boutique fitness segment, our global franchising platform of strong premium brands, and the opportunity to chart a clear path towards sustained long-term growth. Roughly a decade ago, Xponential was founded with a mission to bring boutique fitness to consumers across the US and the world.

Speaker #2: Rapidly expanding through new license sales, studio openings, and brand acquisitions, to achieve the dominant scale, reach, and market position we have today. As a result, now we are an undisputed market leader by number of studios.

Speaker #2: We are seven times the size of the next largest Pilates competitor. Over three times the size of our next largest bar competitor. And one of the top brands in yoga and stretch.

Speaker #2: While BFT's unique hit format has a major international presence, our rapid scaling and success helped to foster a more competitive landscape, with regional and national concepts, and even traditional gyms expanding into group fitness.

Speaker #2: We maintain a very favorable positioning in this more competitive environment. First, consumers have a strong affinity for our brands, and our scale enables broad, convenient access to our studios across the country and around the world.

Mike Nuzzo: Since then, we've grown into the leading global franchisor of boutique fitness, rapidly expanding through new license sales, studio openings, and brand acquisitions to achieve the dominant scale, reach, and market position we have today. As a result, now we are an undisputed market leader by number of studios. We are 7 times the size of the next largest Pilates competitor, over 3 times the size of our next largest Barre competitor, and one of the top brands in yoga and stretch. While BFT's unique HIIT format has a major international presence. Our rapid scaling and success helped to foster a more competitive landscape, with regional and national concepts and even traditional gyms expanding into group fitness. We maintain a very favorable positioning in this more competitive environment.

Speaker #2: Second, our approach to bar, yoga, Pilates, hit, and stretch is time-tested with broad appeal and real results in engagement for members, as illustrated by our consistently strong member growth.

Speaker #2: And third, our best-in-class brand-specific training and onboarding programs drive differentiation in experience and secure key roles to support our new studio expansion. And our experienced franchisees and studio managers bring deep local market insight, while our scale as a franchisor delivers brand recognition, visibility, and innovation advantages.

Speaker #2: At the same time, we acknowledge that over the past few years, legal and regulatory hurdles underperforming brand acquisitions and divestitures, and organizational challenges limit our ability to consistently execute best-in-class support capabilities.

Mike Nuzzo: First, consumers have a strong affinity for our brands, and our scale enables broad, convenient access to our studios across the country and around the world. Second, our approach to Barre, Yoga, Pilates, HIIT, and Stretch is time-tested, with broad appeal and real results and engagement for members, as illustrated by our consistently strong member growth. Third, our best-in-class brand-specific training and onboarding programs, driving differentiation in experience and securing key roles to support our new studio expansion. Our experienced franchisees and studio managers bring deep local market insight, while our scale as a franchisor delivers brand recognition, visibility, and innovation advantages. At the same time, we acknowledge that over the past few years, legal and regulatory hurdles, underperforming brand acquisitions and divestitures, and organizational challenges limited our ability to consistently execute best-in-class support capabilities.

Speaker #2: So inevitably, and not surprisingly, sales growth started to moderate, beginning in late 2024 and into 2025. In 2025, we also had marketing and lead management missteps that contributed to member top-of-funnel challenges that over time resulted in same-store sales pressure, most visible in Club Pilates.

Speaker #2: While the brand remains the category leader, operates successfully across virtually every market profile nationwide, and has average studio AUVs far surpassing our original franchise profitability model, addressing ongoing growth for Club Pilates and across our entire brand portfolio remains a top priority.

Speaker #2: As we start 2026, we are developing and implementing improvements focused on organic growth in partnership with our franchisees. They certainly understand the impact they have in driving this effort, and are aligned around a renewed focus on member acquisition at the local, studio level.

Speaker #2: So I want to make it clear that as we plan for 2026, we intend to prioritize investments that support new member acquisition and healthy top-line growth for our franchisees.

Mike Nuzzo: Inevitably, and not surprisingly, sales growth started to moderate beginning in late 2024 and into 2025. In 2025, we also had marketing and lead management missteps that contributed to member top-of-funnel challenges that over time resulted in same-store sales pressure, most visible in Club Pilates. While the brand remains the category leader, operates successfully across virtually every market profile nationwide, and has average studio AUVs far surpassing our original franchise profitability model, addressing ongoing growth for Club Pilates and across our entire brand portfolio remains a top priority. As we start 2026, we are developing and implementing improvements focused on organic growth in partnership with our franchisees. They certainly understand the impact they have in driving this effort and are aligned around a renewed focus on member acquisition at the local studio level.

Speaker #2: First, our most critical growth engine will continue to be our new unit opening pipeline and process, anchored by the Club Pilates brand. And we are already seeing the benefits of enhanced support and tools.

Speaker #2: We recently enhanced our new franchisee recruiting process across all brands, and implemented an effort to address the global licenses that are lagging more than 12 months behind their development schedules.

Speaker #2: Our Club Pilates franchisee base is eager to open more units in both new and existing geographies, and we continue to see the potential to double our domestic network.

Speaker #2: Internationally, the Club Pilates brand is also in high demand, and we anticipate meaningful expansion opportunity specifically in Asia, and Europe. Driving overall revenue growth through continued new studio expansion is a key 2026 initiative.

Mike Nuzzo: I want to make it clear that as we plan for 2026, we intend to prioritize investments that support new member acquisition and healthy top-line growth for our franchisees. First, our most critical growth engine will continue to be our new unit opening pipeline and process, anchored by the Club Pilates brand, and we are already seeing the benefits of enhanced support and tools. We recently enhanced our new franchisee recruiting process across all brands and implemented an effort to address the global licenses that are lagging more than 12 months behind their development schedules. Our Club Pilates franchisee base is eager to open more units in both new and existing geographies, and we continue to see the potential to double our domestic network. Internationally, the Club Pilates brand is also in high demand, and we anticipate meaningful expansion opportunity, specifically in Asia and Europe.

Speaker #2: Our second critical element of growth is driving organic studio revenue performance across all brands, measured by continued healthy average unit volumes and modest comp sales growth.

Speaker #2: We view this as a major improvement opportunity and a key investment focus in 2026. We know that today's fitness landscape is characterized by higher member acquisition costs and longer conversion timelines, as consumers weigh more options before committing to a particular studio membership.

Speaker #2: While we have seen our top-of-funnel lead trends improve since August, we are not where we need to be, and require further progress in the focus areas I'll discuss shortly.

Speaker #2: We generate strong adjusted EBITDA with attractive and expanding margins, reflecting the scalability and capital-light nature of our franchisor business model. We implemented SG&A cost reductions and margin improvements in 2025, and see additional savings and efficiency opportunities in 2026.

Mike Nuzzo: Driving overall revenue growth through continued new studio expansion is a key 2026 initiative. Our second critical element of growth is driving organic studio revenue performance across all brands, measured by continued healthy average unit volumes and modest comp sales growth. We view this as a major improvement opportunity and a key investment focus in 2026. We know that today's fitness landscape is characterized by higher member acquisition costs and longer conversion timelines as consumers weigh more options before committing to a particular studio membership. While we have seen our top-of-funnel lead trends improve since August, we are not where we need to be and require further progress in the focus areas I'll discuss shortly. We generate strong Adjusted EBITDA with attractive and expanding margins, reflecting the scalability and capital-light nature of our franchisor business model.

Speaker #2: However, based on my experience across other consumer businesses, pulling back on member acquisition-focused resources to meet and adjusted EBITDA growth target typically proves to be misguided, and short-sighted.

Speaker #2: With a more efficient overhead structure, we believe that over time, growing our top line will generate meaningful adjusted EBITDA leverage. John will walk through our guidance in more detail, but it reflects deliberate marketing, operations, and franchisee support decisions we are making today intended to support durable, long-term growth, even if it means near-term adjusted EBITDA growth will be more modest than previously expected.

Speaker #2: As I alluded to in our last call, we are focused on the following best-in-class studio performance support areas for 2026. First, marketing at both a national and local studio level.

Speaker #2: After some missed opportunities in 2025, we are making improvements to both, particularly in performance marketing. In Q1, we'll have a second-year version of our local franchise match program that last year was a successful expo franchisee partnership to put more dollars to work at the local level.

Mike Nuzzo: We implemented SG&A cost reductions and margin improvements in 2025 and see additional savings and efficiency opportunities in 2026. However, based on my experience across other consumer businesses, pulling back on member acquisition-focused resources to meet an Adjusted EBITDA growth target typically proves to be misguided and shortsighted. With a more efficient overhead structure, we believe that over time, growing our top line will generate meaningful Adjusted EBITDA leverage. John will walk through our guidance in more detail, but it reflects deliberate marketing, operations, and franchisee support decisions we are making today, intended to support durable, long-term growth, even if it means near-term Adjusted EBITDA growth will be more modest than previously expected. As I alluded to in our last call, we are focused on the following best-in-class studio performance support areas for 2026. First, marketing at both a national and local studio level.

Speaker #2: Our Club Pilates marketing program in Q4 provided us with valuable insights on additional performance channels we can activate during the year. In 2026, we will amplify more brand content and awareness through social media and performance marketing, such as the 25th anniversary of Pure Bar, the Club Pilates Circuit Class, our unique Yoga 6 sculpt and flow classes, and BFT's signature eight-week challenge.

Speaker #2: For StretchLab, we are also using social media in a major way to build awareness around the benefits of assisted stretch, particularly for active older adults.

Speaker #2: We also tested and saw solid results from some new member trial offers that we plan to drive through performance marketing channels. Finally, we will be testing and piloting new pricing and member package changes informed by our Q4 pricing study that, over time, are expected to contribute to organic growth.

Mike Nuzzo: After some missed opportunities in 2025, we are making improvements to both, particularly in performance marketing. In Q1, we'll have a second-year version of our local franchise match program that last year was a successful Expo franchisee partnership to put more dollars to work at the local level. Our Club Pilates marketing program in Q4 provided us with valuable insights on additional performance channels we can activate during the year. In 2026, we will amplify more brand content and awareness through social media and performance marketing, such as the 25th anniversary of Pure Barre, the Club Pilates Circuit class, our unique YogaSix Sculpt and Flow classes, and BFT's signature 8-week challenge. For StretchLab, we are also using social media in a major way to build awareness around the benefits of assisted stretch, particularly for active older adults.

Speaker #2: Second, our digital and studio platforms across our brands can be enhanced to improve member conversion. In Q4, we started work on our Club Pilates and stretch lab websites, focusing both on updated imagery and improved navigation and member experience.

Speaker #2: We expect to leverage these enhancements across all our brands to maintain a consistent high-quality member experience. In 2026, we also plan to conduct an upgrade to our studio member management systems to incorporate more automation, lead management tools, and enhanced membership offerings and packages based on our learnings from our Q4 pricing analysis.

Speaker #2: Third, our roughly 35-person field operations team is now in place having spent valuable time extensively training to strengthen on-the-ground studio support. For 2026, they intend to focus their coaching and leadership on increasing studio lead-to-membership conversion performance.

Mike Nuzzo: We also tested and saw solid results from some new member trial offers that we plan to drive through performance marketing channels. Finally, we will be testing and piloting new pricing and member package changes, informed by our Q4 pricing study, that over time are expected to contribute to organic growth. Second, our digital and studio platforms across our brands can be enhanced to improve member conversion. In Q4, we started work on our Club Pilates and StretchLab websites, focusing both on updated imagery, improved navigation, and member experience. We expect to leverage these enhancements across all our brands to maintain a consistent, high-quality member experience. In 2026, we also plan to conduct an upgrade to our studio member management systems to incorporate more automation, lead management tools, and enhanced membership offerings and packages based on our learnings from our Q4 pricing analysis.

Speaker #2: We have a high degree of confidence we can improve every brand's effectiveness by turning leads into trial appointments and first-time classes into memberships. The team will also be a valuable resource to help new studios maximize presale efforts to drive first-year membership growth.

Speaker #2: And with specifically designed management tools and studio visit protocols, we expect they will also support improved studio profitability. Our senior team and field leaders meet weekly to gather feedback, review KPIs, and pivot accordingly.

Speaker #2: Fourth, and above all, both acquiring new members and retaining existing members comes down to continuing to evolve and innovate with our brands. Including the look and feel of studios, class content, and member engagement.

Mike Nuzzo: Third, our roughly 35-person field operations team is now in place, having spent valuable time extensively training to strengthen on-the-ground studio support. For 2026, they intend to focus their coaching and leadership on increasing studio lead to membership conversion performance. We have a high degree of confidence we can improve every brand's effectiveness by turning leads into trial appointments and first-time classes into memberships. The team will also be a valuable resource to help new studios maximize presale efforts to drive first-year membership growth. With specifically designed management tools and studio visit protocols, we expect they will also support improved studio profitability. Our senior team and field leaders meet weekly to gather feedback, review KPIs, and pivot accordingly.

Speaker #2: We are working through a broad studio refresh initiative at Club Pilates, with a new format beginning to pilot in coming months. Our circuit class in Club Pilates is off to a strong start, and we are planning additional class styles as part of our innovation roadmaps for each of our brands.

Speaker #2: You will see these innovations reflected in our marketing, as I mentioned previously. Finally, with strong support from our operations team, we believe we will be positioned to execute new member engagement campaigns and initiatives at a local studio level.

Speaker #2: While we are still in the early innings and while I expect to make progress through 2026, it always takes time for new programs and initiatives and teams to maximize their operational effectiveness.

Speaker #2: John will discuss our 2026 guidance, but as we gauge resources for driving improved organic growth, and until we understand the timing and extent of our initiative results, we are being very thoughtful not to overreach on our full-year guidance.

Mike Nuzzo: Fourth, and above all, both acquiring new members and retaining existing members comes down to continuing to evolve and innovate with our brands, including the look and feel of studios, class content, and member engagement. We are working through a broad studio refresh initiative at Club Pilates, with a new format beginning to pilot in coming months. Our Circuit class in Club Pilates is off to a strong start, and we are planning additional class styles as part of our innovation roadmaps for each of our brands. You will see these innovations reflected in our marketing, as I mentioned previously. Finally, with strong support from our operations team, we believe we will be positioned to execute new member engagement campaigns and initiatives at a local studio level.

Speaker #2: I am confident in our priorities and our plan to evolve the business, and I look forward to providing updates over the coming quarters. Now I'll turn the call over to John.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Mike, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll begin with an overview of our fourth quarter and full-year performance, and then discuss our outlook for 2026.

Speaker #2: We ended the quarter with 3,097 global open studios, opening 78 gross new studios during Q4, with 51 in North America and 27 internationally. For the full year, our gross new studio openings were 341, with 252 in North America and 89 internationally.

Speaker #2: There were 47 global studio closures in the fourth quarter, and 140 during 2025, representing approximately 4.5% of our global open studios for the year.

Mike Nuzzo: While we are still in the early innings, and while I expect to make progress through 2026, it always takes time for new programs, initiatives, and teams to maximize their operational effectiveness. John will discuss our 2026 guidance, but as we gauge resources for driving improved organic growth, and until we understand the timing and extent of our initiative results, we are being very thoughtful not to overreach on our full year guidance. I am confident in our priorities and our plan to evolve the business, and I look forward to providing updates over the coming quarters. Now I'll turn the call over to John.

Speaker #2: Closure activity in the quarter included decommissioning of 16 non-traditional studios that were operating on Princess Cruise Ships. The remaining 31 traditional studio closures were in line with historical quarters and concentrated primarily within stretch lab, BFT, and Yoga 6.

Speaker #2: Moving forward, we expect closure rates to decline and be in the low to mid-single digits. We sold 53 licenses globally during Q4 and 179 licenses in 2025, 112 of the 179 licenses sold in the year were international, and 67 were for North America.

John Meloun: Thank you, Mike. Good afternoon, everyone. I'll begin with an overview of our Q4 and full year performance, discuss our outlook for 2026. We ended the quarter with 3,097 global open studios, opening 78 gross new studios during Q4, with 51 in North America and 27 internationally. For the full year, our gross new studio openings were 341, with 252 in North America and 89 internationally. There were 47 global studio closures in Q4 and 140 during 2025, representing approximately 4.5% of our global open studios for the year. Closure activity in the quarter included decommissioning of 16 nontraditional studios that were operating on Princess Cruises ships.

Speaker #2: The North America license sales were lower during portions of the year as we temporarily paused sales activity to complete a comprehensive review and update of each brand's franchise disclosure documents.

Speaker #2: We expect updated FDDs for the 2026 cycle to be filed in the coming weeks as part of our normal renewal process. As of December 31, 2025, we had more than 830 licenses contractually obligated to open in North America, and more than 760 international master franchise obligations.

Speaker #2: Of these, approximately 30% are currently more than 12 months behind their contractual development schedules and are considered inactive. Fourth quarter North America system-wide sales of 447 million were up approximately 5% year over year, and same-store sales were negative 4.3%.

John Meloun: The remaining 31 traditional studio closures were in line with historical quarters and concentrated primarily within StretchLab, BFT, and YogaSix. Moving forward, we expect closure rates to decline and be in the low to mid-single digits. We sold 53 licenses globally during Q4 and 179 licenses in 2025. 112 of the 179 licenses sold in the year were international, and 67 were for North America. The North America license sales were lower during portions of the year as we temporarily paused sales activity to complete a comprehensive review and update of each brand's franchise disclosure documents. We expect updated FDDs for the 2026 cycle to be filed in the coming weeks as part of our normal renewal process.

Speaker #2: The increase in system-wide sales was driven primarily by growth from net new studio openings. In 2025, system-wide sales increased approximately 13% to 1.7 billion from 1.6 billion in 2024, and full-year same-store sales were 0.5%.

Speaker #2: North America run-rate average unit volumes of 683,000 in the fourth quarter decreased 2% from 695,000 in the prior year period. The decrease was largely driven by lower average pricing for paying members partially offset by a higher number of actively paying members.

Speaker #2: On a consolidated basis, revenue for the quarter was $83 million, flat from the prior year period. 76% of the revenue for the quarter was reoccurring, which we define as including all revenue streams except for franchise territory revenues and equipment revenues given these materially occur upfront before a studio opens.

John Meloun: As of 31 December 2025, we had more than 830 licenses contractually obligated to open in North America and more than 760 international master franchise obligations. Of these, approximately 30% are currently more than 12 months behind their contractual development schedules and are considered inactive. Q4 North America system-wide sales of $447 million were up approximately 5% year-over-year, and same-store sales were negative 4.3%. The increase in system-wide sales was driven primarily by growth from net new studio openings. In 2025, system-wide sales increased approximately 13% to $1.7 billion from $1.6 billion in 2024, and full year same-store sales were 0.5%.

Speaker #2: In 2025, exponential generated 314.9 million in revenue, a 2% decrease from the prior year. Turning to the components that make up revenue, franchise revenue for the quarter was $51.5 million up 14% year over year.

Speaker #2: This growth was primarily driven by higher franchise territory revenue reflecting accelerated license revenue as we continue to resolve the link with franchise licenses. Equipment revenue was $7 million declining by 45% year over year.

John Meloun: North America run rate average unit volumes of $683,000 in Q4 decreased 2% from $695,000 in the prior-year period. The decrease was largely driven by lower average pricing for paying members, partially offset by a higher number of actively paying members. On a consolidated basis, revenue for the quarter was $83 million, flat from the prior-year period. 76% of the revenue for the quarter was recurring, which we define as including all revenue streams except for franchise territory revenues and equipment revenues, given these materially occur upfront before a studio opens. In 2025, Xponential generated $314.9 million in revenue, a 2% decrease from the prior year.

Speaker #2: This decrease was primarily the result of a lower volume of installations in the period compared to the same period prior year. Merchandise revenue of $7.2 million was up 18% year over year.

Speaker #2: The increase year over year was due to favorable retail sales and the benefits of the outsourced retail operation that occurred in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: Franchise marketing fund revenue of $8.9 million was down 3% year over year, primarily due to lower system-wide sales stemming from divested brands. Lastly, other service revenue, which includes sales generated from rebates, from processing studio system-wide sales, brand access partnerships, company-owned studios, Xpass, and Xplus, amongst other items, was $8.3 million, down 16% from the prior year period.

John Meloun: Turning to the components that make up revenue, franchise revenue for the quarter was $51.5 million, up 14% year-over-year. This growth was primarily driven by higher franchise territory revenue, reflecting accelerated license revenue as we continue to resolve delinquent franchise licenses. Equipment revenue was $7 million, declining by 45% year-over-year. This decrease was primarily the result of a lower volume of installations in the period compared to the same period prior year. Merchandise revenue of $7.2 million was up 18% year-over-year. The increase year-over-year was due to favorable retail sales and the benefits of the outsourced retail operation that occurred in the Q4. Franchise marketing fund revenue of $8.9 million was down 3% year-over-year, primarily due to lower system-wide sales stemming from divested brands.

Speaker #2: The decline in the period was primarily due to lower sponsorship revenues from our preferred suppliers, which offsets the cost of holding our annual franchise conference.

Speaker #2: Turning to our operating expenses for the quarter, cost of product revenue were $9.7 million down 29% year over year. The decrease was primarily driven by the lower volume of equipment installations.

Speaker #2: Cost of franchise and service revenue were $7.2 million up 19% year over year. The increase in franchise sales commission was driven primarily by the termination of franchise licenses, which results in the immediate acceleration in commission expense recognition.

Speaker #2: Selling general and administrative expenses were $57.7 million for the quarter, up 1% year over year. In 2025, we have entered approximately $33.5 million. As of December 31, 2025, we have approximately $9.1 million of lease liabilities yet to be settled.

John Meloun: Lastly, other service revenue, which includes sales generated from rebates, from processing studio system-wide sales, brand access partnerships, company-owned studios, XPass, and XPlus, amongst other items, was $8.3 million, down 16% from the prior year period. The decline in the period was primarily due to lower sponsorship revenues from our preferred suppliers, which offsets the cost of holding our annual franchise conference. Turning to our operating expenses for the quarter, cost of product revenue were $9.7 million, down 29% year-over-year. The decrease was primarily driven by the lower volume of equipment installations. Cost of franchise and service revenue were $7.2 million, up 19% year-over-year. The increase in franchise sales commission was driven primarily by the termination of franchise licenses, which results in the immediate acceleration in commission expense recognition.

Speaker #2: We expect most of the remaining liabilities will be settled during the remainder of this year. Importantly, we have an update in connection with the pending FTC investigation.

Speaker #2: Earlier this week, FTC staff indicated they will recommend that the FTC commissioners approve a proposed stipulated consent order to fully resolve all of the FTC's alleged claims against the company.

Speaker #2: As part of that proposed consent order, and without the admission of liability, the company has agreed to pay $17 million over the next 12 months.

Speaker #2: The settlement remains subject to the approval of the FTC commissioners and the court. We believe resolution of this matter will resolve a meaningful amount of uncertainty for all our stakeholders.

Speaker #2: Depreciation and amortization expense was $2.4 million, down 47% compared to the prior year period. Marketing fund expenses were $13.3 million, up 126% year over year.

John Meloun: Selling, general, and administrative expenses were $57.7 million for the quarter, up 1% year-over-year. In 2025, we have entered into and paid lease settlement agreements of approximately $33.5 million. As of 31 December 2025, we have approximately $9.1 million of lease liabilities yet to be settled. We expect most of the remaining liabilities will be settled during the remainder of this year. Importantly, we have an update in connection with the pending FTC investigation. Earlier this week, FTC staff indicated they will recommend that the FTC commissioners approve a proposed stipulated consent order to fully resolve all of the FTC's alleged claims against the company. As part of that proposed consent order, and without the admission of liability, the company has agreed to pay $17 million over the next 12 months.

Speaker #2: This increase was expected and primarily driven by a higher spend afforded by the increase in system-wide sales and as part of the increased planned spend for Club Pilates.

Speaker #2: As Mike mentioned, top-of-funnel lead generation is critically important for the company. The increased spend this quarter was purposely deployed to gain insights on the effectiveness of various marketing strategies.

Speaker #2: Acquisition and transaction expenses were $0.5 million down from $1.9 million in the prior year period. As I have noted on prior earnings calls, this includes the contingent consideration activity, which is related to the Rumble acquisition earn-out and is driven by the share price at quarter end.

Speaker #2: We marked a market the earn-out each quarter and accrue for the earn-out. Note that this earn-out will persist despite the recent divestiture of the brand.

John Meloun: The settlement remains subject to the approval of the FTC commissioners and the court. We believe resolution of this matter will resolve a meaningful amount of uncertainty for all our stakeholders. Depreciation and amortization expense was $2.4 million, down 47% compared to the prior year period. Marketing fund expenses were $13.3 million, up 126% year-over-year. This increase was expected and primarily driven by a higher spend afforded by the increase in system-wide sales and as part of the increased planned spend for Club Pilates. As Mike mentioned, top-of-funnel lead generation is critically important for the company. The increased spend this quarter was purposely deployed to gain insights on the effectiveness of various marketing strategies. Acquisition and transaction expenses were $0.5 million, down from $1.9 million in the prior year period.

Speaker #2: We recorded a net loss of $45.6 million in the fourth quarter, or a loss of $1.17 per basic share compared to a net loss of $62.5 million, or a loss of $1.36 per basic share.

Speaker #2: In the prior year period, for 2025, we recorded a net loss of $53.7 million, or a loss of $1.47 per basic share compared to a net loss of $98.7 million, or a loss of $2.27 per basic share in the prior year period.

Speaker #2: We continue to believe that adjusted net income is a more useful way to measure the performance of our business. A reconciliation of net income and loss to adjusted net income and loss is provided in our earnings press release.

Speaker #2: Adjusted net loss for the fourth quarter was $44.6 million, or adjusted net loss of $91 per basic share on a share count of 35.2 million shares of Class A common stock.

John Meloun: As I have noted on prior earnings calls, this includes the contingent consideration activity, which is related to the Rumble acquisition earn-out and is driven by the share price at quarter end. We mark to market the earn-out each quarter and accrue for the earn-out. Note that this earn-out will persist despite the recent divestiture of the brand. We recorded a net loss of $45.6 million in Q4, or a loss of $1.17 per basic share, compared to a net loss of $62.5 million, or a loss of $1.36 per basic share in the prior year period.

Speaker #2: For 2025, adjusted net loss was $18.4 million, or adjusted net loss of $0.49 per basic share on a share count of 34.8 million shares of Class A common stock.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was $22.9 million in the fourth quarter, down 26% compared to $30.8 million in the prior year period. The adjusted EBITDA margin was 28% in the fourth quarter, down from 37% in the prior year. Factors that contributed to the lower EBITDA margin include higher marketing fund expenses that exceeded marketing fund income and lower sponsorship revenues from our annual franchise conference.

John Meloun: For 2025, we recorded a net loss of $53.7 million, or a loss of $1.47 per basic share, compared to a net loss of $98.7 million, or a loss of $2.27 per basic share in the prior year period. We continue to believe that adjusted net income is a more useful way to measure the performance of our business. A reconciliation of net income and loss to adjusted net income and loss is provided in our earnings press release. Adjusted net loss for Q4 was $44.6 million, or adjusted net loss of $0.91 per basic share on a share count of 35.2 million shares of Class A common stock.

Speaker #2: For 2025, our adjusted EBITDA was $111.8 million, down 4% compared to $116.2 million in 2024. I'd now like to provide a comprehensive summary of our annual results that include more granular brand-level metrics and the data for our five brands.

Speaker #2: Club Pilates, Pure Bar, Stretch Lab, Yoga 6, and BFT. As stated in previous years, this additional information is only provided on our fourth quarter conference call.

Speaker #2: In 2025, the strongest licensed sales occurred at Club Pilates with 140 and BFT with 24. Club Pilates alone represented 78% of the 179 licenses sold this year.

John Meloun: For 2025, Adjusted net loss was $18.4 million, or Adjusted net loss of $0.49 per basic share on a share count of 34.8 million shares of Class A common stock. Adjusted EBITDA was $22.9 million in Q4, down 26% compared to $30.8 million in the prior year period. The Adjusted EBITDA margin was 28% in Q4, down from 37% in the prior year period. The primary items in the period that contributed to the lower EBITDA margin include higher marketing fund expenses that exceeded marketing fund income and lower sponsorship revenues from our annual franchise conference. For 2025, our Adjusted EBITDA was $111.8 million, down 4% compared to $116.2 million in 2024.

Speaker #2: Most licensed sales, 63%, occurred internationally with the remaining 37% sold in North America. For gross openings, Club Pilates led with 220, followed by Stretch Lab with 48, and BFT with 36.

Speaker #2: Together, representing 89% of the 341 gross new studio openings this year. Gross new studio openings mostly occurred in North America, at 74%, with the balance of 26% occurring internationally.

Speaker #2: Over time, international operations are anticipated to become a greater percentage of the total gross new studio openings. System-wide sales are driven directionally by the number of North American studios operating and the maturity of those studios.

John Meloun: I'd now like to provide a comprehensive summary of our annual results that include more granular brand-level metrics and the data for our five brands, Club Pilates, Pure Barre, StretchLab, YogaSix, and BFT. As stated in previous years, this additional information is only provided on our Q4 conference call. In 2025, the strongest licensed sales occurred at Club Pilates with 140, and BFT with 24. Club Pilates alone represented 78% of the 179 licenses sold this year. Most license sales, 63%, occurred internationally, with the remaining 37% sold in North America. For gross openings, Club Pilates led with 220, followed by StretchLab with 48, and BFT with 36, together representing 89% of the 341 gross new studio openings this year.

Speaker #2: It is expected that the brands with a growing number of studios will continue to generate higher proportions of our system-wide sales as AUVs increase.

Speaker #2: Club Pilates with 1,241 studios operating at year-end in North America contributed $65% of our total system-wide sales for the year. Pure Bar with 624 and Stretch Lab with 503 studios operating both contributed approximately 14% respectively.

Speaker #2: Overall run rate average unit volumes decreased 2% to 683,000 at year-end. Stretch Lab AUV decreased 12% year over year to 483,000, and Club Pilates AUV decreased 6% year over year to 966,000.

Speaker #2: Meanwhile, Pure Barre AUV increased 3% year over year to $400,000, and YogaSix AUV increased 12% year over year to $525,000. Same-store sales across the portfolio were up 0.5% for the full year, with Club Pilates at 3%, continuing to over-influence performance due to its scale.

John Meloun: Gross new studio openings mostly occurred in North America at 74%, with a balance of 26% occurring internationally. Over time, international operations are anticipated to become a greater percentage of the total gross new studio openings. System-wide sales are driven directionally by the number of North American studios operating and the maturity of those studios. It is expected that the brands with a growing number of studios will continue to generate higher proportions of our system-wide sales as AUVs increase. Club Pilates, with 1,241 studios operating at year-end in North America, contributed 65% of our total system-wide sales for the year. Pure Barre, with 624, and StretchLab, with 503 studios operating, both contributed approximately 14% respectively. Overall, run rate average unit volumes decreased 2% to $683,000 at year-end.

Speaker #2: Within the other brands, Yoga 6 and Pure Bar had same-store sales of 2% and 4% respectively for the full year, while Stretch Lab was negative 12%.

Speaker #2: Turning to the balance sheet, as of December 31, 2025, cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash were $45.9 million, up from $32.7 million as of December 31, 2024.

Speaker #2: In 2025, the company's cash position increased by $13.1 million. For the year, net cash provided by operating activities was $28.3 million, net cash provided by investing activities was $1.5 million, and net cash used in financing activities was $16.7 million.

John Meloun: StretchLab AUV decreased 12% year-over-year to $483,000. Club Pilates AUV decreased 6% year-over-year to $966,000. Meanwhile, Pure Barre AUV increased 3% year-over-year to $400,000. YogaSix AUV increased 12% year-over-year to $525,000. Same-store sales across the portfolio were up 0.5% for the full year, with Club Pilates at 3%, continuing to over-influence performance due to its scale. Within the other brands, YogaSix and Pure Barre had same-store sales of 2% and 4%, respectively, for the full year, while StretchLab was -12%. Turning to the balance sheet, as of 31 December 2025, cash equivalents, and restricted cash were $45.9 million, up from $32.7 million as of 31 December 2024.

Speaker #2: In December 2025, we took a significant step to strengthen our capital structure and support long-term shareholder value by entering into a new five-year $525 million term loan and putting in place a $25 million revolving credit facility.

Speaker #2: A key aspect of this refinancing was the full repurchase of all outstanding convertible preferred stock, eliminating approximately $8.1 million potential common shares and simplifying our equity base.

Speaker #2: By refinancing the existing debt and retiring the convertible preferred security, we have reduced refinancing risk, improved financial flexibility, and removed a source of dilution for existing shareholders.

Speaker #2: This action reinforces our commitment to disciplined capital management and positions the company to better support strategic priorities going forward. Total long-term debt was $525 million as of December 31, 2025, compared to $352.4 million as of December 31, 2024.

John Meloun: In 2025, the company's cash position increased by $13.1 million. For the year, net cash provided by operating activities was $28.3 million, net cash provided by investing activities was $1.5 million, and net cash used in financing activities was $16.7 million. In December 2025, we took a significant step to strengthen our capital structure and support long-term shareholder value by entering into a new five-year, $525 million term loan and putting in place a $25 million revolving credit facility. A key aspect of this refinancing was the full repurchase of all outstanding convertible preferred stock, eliminating approximately 8.1 million potential common shares and simplifying our equity base. By refinancing the existing debt and retiring the convertible preferred security, we have reduced refinancing risk, improved financial flexibility, and removed a source of dilution for existing shareholders.

Speaker #2: The increase in total long-term debt is primarily due to retiring the convertible preferred security previously mentioned. As the company continues to generate cash, we expect deleveraging to occur over the coming years.

Speaker #2: Let's now discuss our outlook for 2026. Based on current business conditions and our expectations as of the date of this call, we are issuing the following guidance for global net new studio openings, system-wide sales, total revenue, and adjusted EBITDA for the current year as follows.

Speaker #2: We expect 2026 global net new studio openings, which is net of closures, to be in the range of $150 to $170, representing a 20% decrease at the midpoint from the prior year, pro forma for brand dispositions.

Speaker #2: We expect the number of closures to be 3% to 5% of the global system this year as a percentage of total open studios, with a longer focus to reduce global closures to low single digits as a percentage of the total global system.

John Meloun: This action reinforces our commitment to disciplined capital management and positions the company to better support strategic priorities going forward. Total long-term debt was $525 million as of 31 December 2025, compared to $352.4 million as of 31 December 2024. The increase in total long-term debt is primarily due to retiring the convertible preferred security previously mentioned. As the company continues to generate cash, we expect for deleveraging to occur over the coming years. Let's now discuss our outlook for 2026.

Speaker #2: We project North America system-wide sales to range from $1.72 billion to $1.8 billion, representing a 1% increase at the midpoint from the prior year, pro forma for brand dispositions.

Speaker #2: Total 2026 revenue is expected to be between $260 million to $270 million, representing a 16% decrease year over year at the midpoint of our guided range.

John Meloun: Based on current business conditions and our expectations as of the date of this call, we are issuing the following guidance for global net new studio openings, system-wide sales, total revenue, and Adjusted EBITDA for the current year as follows: We expect 2026 global net new studio openings, which is net of closures, to be in the range of 150 to 170, representing a 20% decrease at the midpoint from the prior year, pro forma for brand dispositions. We expect the number of closures to be 3% to 5% of the global system this year as a percentage of total open studios, with a longer focus to reduce global closures to low single digits as a percentage of the total global system.

Speaker #2: The year-over-year change is roughly driven by an approximately 23.1 million revenue impact from 2025 divested brands and approximately $18 million revenue impact from the shift to an outsourced merchandise sales model.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA is expected to range from $100 million to $110 million, representing a 6% decrease year over year at the midpoint of our guided range.

Speaker #2: This range translates into an approximately 40% adjusted EBITDA margin at the midpoint. The relatively flat year-over-year forecast is driven by an approximately $5.6 million net benefit from divested brands, which is gross margin upside offset by cost savings and overall lower SG&A, primarily from our prior-year cost reductions and the net benefit from our new outsourced retailer arrangement.

John Meloun: We project North America system-wide sales to range from $1.72 billion to 1.8 billion, representing a 1% increase at the midpoint from the prior year, pro forma for brand dispositions. Total 2026 revenue is expected to be between $260 million to 270 million, representing a 16% decrease year-over-year at the midpoint of our guided range. The year-over-year change is roughly driven by an approximately $23.1 million revenue impact from 2025 divested brands and approximately $18 million revenue impact from the shift to an outsourced merchandise sales model. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to range from $100 million to 110 million, representing a 6% decrease year-over-year at the midpoint of our guided range.

Speaker #2: Offset by lower studio same-store sales which we expect to trend in the negative low single digit range for 2026. We expect total SG&A to range from $108 to $113 million.

Speaker #2: When further excluding the one-time lease restructuring charges and regulatory legal defense expenses, we are expecting SG&A of $97 to $102 million and a range of $85 to $90 million when further excluding stock-based costs.

Speaker #2: In terms of capital expenditure, we anticipate approximately $6 million to $10 million for the year, or approximately 3% of revenue at the midpoint. Going forward, capital expenditure will primarily focus on our data transformation initiative, website and mobile applications, learning management system, and general technology investments.

John Meloun: This range translates into an approximately 40% Adjusted EBITDA margin at the midpoint. The relatively flat year-over-year forecast is driven by an approximately $5.6 million net benefit from divested brands, which is gross margin upside offset by cost savings and overall lower SG&A, primarily from our prior year cost reductions and the net benefit from our new outsourced retail arrangement, offset by lower studio same-store sales, which we expect to trend in the negative low double single-digit range for 2026. We expect total SG&A to range from $108 to $113 million. When further excluding the one-time lease restructuring charges and regulatory legal defense expenses, we are expecting SG&A of $97 to $102 million, and a range of $85 to $90 million when further excluding stock-based costs.

Speaker #2: For the full year, 2026, our tax rate is expected to be mid to high single digit and share account for purposes of earnings per share calculation to be $37.3 million.

Speaker #2: A full explanation of our share account calculation and associated pro forma EPS and adjusted EPS calculation can be found in the tables at the end of our earnings press release as well as our corporate structure and capitalization FAQ on our investor website.

Speaker #2: We anticipate our non-GAAP unlevered free cash flow conversion to be approximately 90% of adjusted EBITDA as we require minimal capital expenditure to grow the business.

Speaker #2: We expect that our anticipated interest expense in 2026 will be approximately $55 million, tax expenses to be approximately $4 million, including the cash usage for tax receivable agreement and tax distributions to pre-IPO LLC members, resulting in levered adjusted EBITDA cash flow conversion at the midpoint of approximately $35%.

John Meloun: In terms of capital expenditure, we anticipate approximately $6 million to $10 million for the year, or approximately 3% of revenue at the midpoint. Going forward, capital expenditure will primarily focus on our data transformation initiative, website and mobile applications, learning management system, and general technology investments. For the full year 2026, our tax rate is expected to be mid to high single digit, and share count for purposes of earnings per share calculation to be 37.3 million. A full explanation of our share count calculation and associated pro forma EPS and Adjusted EPS calculation can be found in the tables at the end of our earnings press release, as well as our corporate structure and capitalization FAQ on our investor website.

Speaker #2: As Mike mentioned at the beginning of the call, we are happy with the progress we have made on several fronts in the past year.

Speaker #2: We have invested and will continue to invest in all the necessary initiatives expected to drive sustainable financial performance and long-term growth of our brands.

Speaker #2: This concludes today's prepared remarks. Thank you all for your time today. We'll now open the call for questions. Operator?

Speaker #1: Thank you. And at this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue.

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John Meloun: We anticipate our non-GAAP, unlevered free cash flow conversion to be approximately 90% of Adjusted EBITDA, as we require minimal capital expenditure to grow the business. We expect that our anticipated interest expense in 2026 will be approximately $55 million, tax expenses to be approximately $4 million, including the cash usage for tax receivable agreement and tax distributions to pre-IPO LLC members, resulting in levered Adjusted EBITDA cash flow conversion at the midpoint of approximately 35%. As Mike mentioned at the beginning of the call, we are happy with the progress we have made on several fronts in the past year. We have invested and will continue to invest in all the necessary initiatives expected to drive sustainable financial performance and long-term growth of our brands. This concludes today's prepared remarks. Thank you all for your time today. We'll now open the call for questions. Operator?

Speaker #1: But for pressing the star keys, one moment, please, while we pull for questions. And your first question comes from Joe Altabello with Raymond James.

Speaker #1: Please state your question.

Speaker #2: Thanks. Hey, guys. Good afternoon. I guess my first question is on the revenue and same-store sales in the quarter. I think, John, you mentioned lower average pricing.

Speaker #2: As a part of that, can you elaborate a little bit on that?

Speaker #3: Yeah. I mean, as we've seen new studios come online and as far as the ramping is concerned, when you just simply do a calculation on the total system-wide sales, divided by the number of members, you get a lower pricing.

Speaker #3: One thing to be kind of attentive to in the fourth quarter, we run a lot of promotions. In regards to Black Friday, sales and those are usually quite successful as they're meant to bring in new members or eventually convert to new members as we sell more package-type offerings.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. To ask a question, press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please, while we pull for questions. Your first question comes from Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please state your question.

Speaker #3: So you typically get a little bit of dilution around pricing in the fourth quarter. But it normalizes after in Q1 and Q2 as those members burn off their packages and have the ability to convert into more traditional memberships versus package-type offerings.

Speaker #2: Are you seeing any shift between pricing tiers?

Speaker #3: No. I mean, we've typically seen a lot of stability in regards to the distribution of what members are buying. I mean, in brands like Club Pilates, you typically see a lot of unlimited membership.

Joe Altobello: Thanks. Hey, guys. Good afternoon. I guess my first question is on, you know, the revenue and same-store sales in the quarter. I think, John, you mentioned lower average pricing as a part of that. Can you elaborate a little bit on that?

Speaker #3: As those studios come online and people initially kind of join, so there hasn't been material shifts from historical trends.

John Meloun: Yeah, I mean, as we've seen new studios come online, and as far as their ramping is concerned, you know, when you just simply do a calculation on the total system-wide sales, divided by the number of members, you get a lower pricing. One thing to be kind of attentive to, in Q4, we run a lot of promotions in regards to, like, Black Friday sales, and those are usually quite successful, as they're meant to bring in new members or eventually convert to new members as we sell more package-type offerings.

Speaker #2: Okay. And my last question in terms of the EBITDA guidance for the year, how much of an improvement are you assuming from exiting or shifting to an outsourced retail model?

Speaker #3: Yeah, so quite a bit, actually. When you actually look at the gross profit improvement that you're seeing in the business, we typically have been in the low to mid-80% range.

Speaker #3: And now we're getting closer to a 90% gross profit. And that's really because of the fact that we're not running the retail sales into the business along with its cost of goods sold.

John Meloun: You typically get a little bit of dilution around pricing in Q4, but it normalizes after in Q1 and Q2 as those members burn off their packages and have the ability to convert into more traditional memberships versus package-type offerings.

Speaker #3: It's just going to be the rebate that we now get from the vendor. So what was traditionally, I would say, a retail business that operated break-even or slightly at a loss, is now going to be virtually 100% margin.

Joe Altobello: Are you seeing any shift between pricing tiers?

Speaker #3: So the improvements in EBITDA on the retail business is going to be a high single digit, low double digit EBITDA enhancement.

John Meloun: No. I mean, we've typically seen a lot of stability in regards to the distribution of what members are buying. I mean, in brands like Club Pilates, you typically see a lot of unlimited membership as those studios come online and people initially kind of join. There hasn't been material shifts from historical trends.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Joe, I would just add that I thought the team did a really good job getting the conversion done by the end of the year.

Speaker #2: Minimizing any issues in the transition. And yeah, I would just add that we've outsourced it's a non-core function for us. So it'll be a big help and also we're starting to partner closely with our outsourced partner around new product introductions and so that whole process seems to be getting going in a really good way.

Joe Altobello: Okay. My last question on In terms of the EBITDA guidance for the year, how much of an improvement are you assuming from exiting or shifting to an outsourced retail model?

John Meloun: Yeah. quite a bit, actually. When you actually look at the gross profit improvement that you're seeing in the business, you know, we typically have been, you know, in the low to mid 80% range, and now we're getting closer to a 90% gross profit, and that's really because of the fact that we're not running the retail sales into the business along with its, the cost of goods sold. It's just gonna be the rebate that we now get from the vendor. What was traditionally, I would say, a retail business that operated break even or slightly at a loss, is now gonna be virtually a 100% margin. The improvement in EBITDA on the retail business is gonna be a high single digit, low double digit EBITDA enhancement.

Speaker #2: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #3: And Joe, for clarity, when I said high single digit, I mean millions of dollars. So it'll be in that 9 to 10 million dollar EBITDA improvement in the year by moving to the retail.

Speaker #2: Yep. Perfect. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Randy Koenig with Jefferies. Please state your question.

Speaker #4: Hi. Thanks, guys. I guess some of the commentary you mentioned, I think nearly 80% of the licenses during the year were Club Pilates. When you look at the numbers kind of put up a stretch lab and you made some portfolio changes already, what is your view on where the, I guess, from Mike, where the portfolio needs to go from here?

Mike Nuzzo: Yeah, Joe, I would just add that I thought the team did a really good job getting the conversion done by the end of the year, minimizing any issues in the transition. Yeah, I would just add that we've outsourced it. It's a non-core function for us, so it'll be a big help. Also, we're starting to partner closely with our outsource partner around new product introductions, and so that whole process seems to be getting going in a, in a really good way.

Speaker #4: Do we keep cutting things away? Do we just get to just Club Pilates? How should we be thinking about this over the next 12 to 18 months?

Speaker #2: Yeah, Randy, good question. I guess I would start by saying we've not been reluctant about parting ways with brands that we don't see having a good long-term growth match with us.

Joe Altobello: Okay. Thank you.

John Meloun: Joe, for clarity, when I said high single digit, I mean millions of dollars. It'll be, you know, in that $9 to 10 million EBITDA improvement in the year by moving to the retail.

Speaker #2: And so we've done that. And I give the team a ton of credit for making some key divestitures last year, in particular. Having said that, we're focused on improvement across all the brands.

Joe Altobello: Yep. Perfect. Thank you.

Operator: Your next question comes from Randy Konik with Jefferies. Please state your question.

Speaker #2: And so you take a brand like Stretch Lab, we've got a very urgent improvement focus. And we're partnering very closely with our franchisee base there.

Randy Konik: Hey, thanks guys. I guess, some of the commentary you mentioned, I think nearly 80% of the licenses during the year were Club Pilates. When you look at the numbers kind of put up at StretchLab, and you made some portfolio changes already, you know, what is your view on where, I guess, for Mike, the portfolio needs to go from here? Do we keep cutting things away? Do we just get to just Club Pilates? Like, how should we be thinking about this over the next 12 to 18 months?

Speaker #2: They've been a great partner to us around this effort. I brought in a new leader who helped me to turn around the grooming business at Petco.

Speaker #2: And he's been diving in with the team, understanding the data and the trends, marketing strategy, brand positioning, and other improvements that we're starting to get out into the market for StretchLab.

Speaker #2: And as you know, this is a brand where we're the leader in the space, one of the leaders in the space. We have great overall satisfaction scores.

Mike Nuzzo: Yeah, Randy, good question. I guess I would start by saying, you know, we've not been reluctant about parting ways with brands that we don't see having a good long-term growth match with us. So we've done that, and I give the team a ton of credit for making some key divestitures last year in particular. Having said that, we're focused on improvement across all the brands. You take a brand like StretchLab, we've got a very urgent improvement focus, and we're partnering very closely with our franchisee base there. They've been a great partner to us around this effort.

Speaker #2: We've got some very productive studios. And then we've got some cohorts who have been impacted by, among other things, the Medicare Advantage changes that things.

Speaker #2: Targeting performance marketing, on what we consider our spot. So active older adults with spending power. Building awareness, local activation, and retargeting with these folks.

Speaker #2: Using CRM and app to drive higher retention of members in the first three months, which we see as a key opportunity. As I referenced in the script, we're going to be launching a new website experience that'll make it easier for folks to buy and schedule a stretch.

Speaker #2: Trial the experience and then convert to membership. And then we're also coaching and working with our franchise partners on how we can shift hours of operation to more weekends and weeknights.

Mike Nuzzo: I brought in a new leader who helped me to turn around the grooming business at Petco, and he's been diving in with the team, understanding the data and the trends, marketing strategy, brand positioning, and other improvements that we're starting to get out into the market for StretchLab. You know, this is a brand where we're the, you know, we're the leader in the space, one of the leaders in the space. We have great overall satisfaction scores. We've got some very productive studios, and then we've got some cohorts who have been impacted by, among other things, the Medicare Advantage changes that happened.

Speaker #2: And that's been a major thing that's come about from our look into the data and our survey work. So we feel good about these being the things that will help us to drive momentum in a business like Stretch Lab.

Speaker #2: And regardless of what the long-term situation is, having that momentum is going to be really, really important.

Speaker #1: Got it. And then on Club Pilates, I think we've kind of talked about this in the past. The productivity is very strong four-wall, very strong as well.

Mike Nuzzo: Right now, you know, the team's focused on all the right things, targeting performance marketing on what we consider our spot, so active older adults with spending power, building awareness, local activation, and retargeting with these folks, using CRM and app to drive higher retention of members in the first three months, which we see as a key opportunity. As I referenced in the script, we're gonna be launching a new website experience that'll make it easier for folks to buy and schedule a stretch, trial the experience, and then convert to membership. We're also coaching and working with our franchise partners on how we can shift hours of operation to more weekends and weeknights. That's been a major thing that's come about from our look into the data and our survey work.

Speaker #1: When you look at the comp number and/or the AUV, do you look at that and say, "All right, we have to kind of get out more of these units as quickly as possible to further densify that brand, at least in the United States?" If so, what is the plan there and how quickly can you kind of get this done?

Speaker #1: And are you looking to kind of really kind of double down on license sales in that concept?

Speaker #2: Yeah. We gave you some initial unit growth numbers. And again, a large part of that is going to be Club Pilates focused. We feel really good about the opening process, the goals, the way the team is working especially with our outsourced real estate partner and our licensed sales team.

Mike Nuzzo: We feel good about these being the things that will help us to drive momentum in a business like StretchLab. Regardless of what, you know, what the long-term situation is, having that momentum is going to be really, really important.

Speaker #2: And so when it comes to the Club Pilates business, we feel like there's a lot of potential for upside. And I would also say that with the other brands, we are also focused on generating some unlocks when it comes to unit growth as well.

Randy Konik: Got it. On Club Pilates, you know, I think we've kinda talked about this in the past. The productivity is very strong, four wall, very, very strong as well. When you look at the comp number or the AUV, do you look at that and say, All right, you know, we have to kinda get out more of these units as quickly as possible, to further densify that brand, at least in the United States? If so, what is the plan there, and how quickly can you kinda get this done? Are you looking to kind of really kinda double down on licensed sales in that, you know, in that concept?

Speaker #2: Pure Bar, Yoga 6, BFT, which we've worked on a new go-to-market approach there that we really like. The other piece of it is on the international front.

Speaker #2: We haven't talked a lot about international. And I certainly hope to talk more about it as we go because we feel like for Club Pilates especially, there is a lot of opportunity we are just getting started in a number of key international markets and feel like there's a lot of growth potential.

Mike Nuzzo: Yeah. We gave you some initial unit growth numbers. Again, a large part of that's going to be Club Pilates focused. We feel really good about the opening process, the goals, the way the team is working, especially with our outsourced real estate partner and our licensed sales team. When it comes to the Club Pilates business, we feel like there's a lot of potential for upside. I would also say that with the other brands, we are also focused on generating some unlocks when it comes to unit growth as well: Pure Barre, YogaSix, BFT, which we've worked on a new go-to-market approach there that we really like. The other piece of it is on the international front.

Speaker #2: We have a dedicated team. We are engaging with really good master franchise potentials and existing partners, and so I think that's a growth avenue as well.

Speaker #2: Within the domestic part of the business for Club Pilates, we believe working with both smaller and larger franchisees there's still a lot of white space.

Speaker #2: There's also fill-in space where we have very productive studios and an opportunity to set up another studio within a short distance. And so that'll have different impacts on the ramp and the sales.

Speaker #2: But everybody's very enthusiastic about the four-wall economics and we continue to see really, really good results there.

Mike Nuzzo: We haven't talked a lot about international. I certainly hope to talk more about it as we go because we feel like for Club Pilates, especially, there is a lot of opportunity. We are just getting started in a number of key international markets, feel like there's a lot of growth potential. We have a dedicated team. We are engaging with really good master franchise potentials and existing partners. I think that's a growth avenue as well. Within the domestic part of the business for Club Pilates, we believe working with both smaller and larger franchisees, there's still a lot of white space. There's also fill-in space, where we have very productive studios and an opportunity to set up another studio within a short distance.

Speaker #1: Really helpful. Thanks, guys. Your next question comes from Arpina Kacharian with UBS. Please state your question.

Speaker #3: Hi. Thank you very much for taking my question. It seems like my first question isn't on unit growth. It seems like you were looking at something like mid-single-digit attrition of units and then around 10% or so of growth additions for 2026, about a quarter ago.

Speaker #3: Could you maybe help me bridge that outlook with the 20% decline in net units today? I'm sure some of the divestitures shaved off some units.

Speaker #3: But what else moved that outlook versus a quarter ago?

Speaker #1: Yeah. Hey, Arpina. Nice talking with you. When you look at the gross openings for 2025, we opened over 340. I think it was 341 new studios in the year.

Speaker #1: So we did on a gross basis open up about 10% more locations. The majority of the, as you called it, attrition or closures in 2025, they were concentrated in a few brands.

Mike Nuzzo: That'll have different impacts on the ramp and the sales, but everybody's very enthusiastic about the four wall economics, and we continue to see really good results there.

Speaker #1: So they were concentrated in Pure Bar, Stretch Lab, and Yoga 6. So that was about another 140 locations that went away. When looking at that kind of distribution, I think it's really important to understand that only three and a half percent of or 92 of the closures happened domestically, which is a very low amount.

Randy Konik: Really helpful. Thanks, guys.

John Meloun: Your next question comes from Arpine Kocharyan with UBS. Please state your question.

Operator: Your next question comes from Arpine Kocharyan with UBS. Please state your question.

Arpine Kocharyan: Hi. Thank you very much for taking my question. It seems like my first question is on unit growth. It seems like you were looking at something like mid-single-digit attrition of units and then around 10% or so of gross additions for 2026 about a quarter ago. Could you maybe help me bridge that outlook with the 20% decline in net units today? I'm sure some of the divestiture shaved off some units, but what else moved that outlook versus a quarter ago?

Arpine Kocharian: Hi. Thank you very much for taking my question. It seems like my first question is on unit growth. It seems like you were looking at something like mid-single-digit attrition of units and then around 10% or so of gross additions for 2026 about a quarter ago. Could you maybe help me bridge that outlook with the 20% decline in net units today? I'm sure some of the divestiture shaved off some units, but what else moved that outlook versus a quarter ago?

Speaker #1: The majority of the closures, or 48, or the larger percentage—which is about 10%—of the international locations closed. So, when you think about guiding forward on a net basis, it's really hard to understand where the closures are going to come from, because you don't usually typically know very much information outside of a couple of months of where some of the studios are struggling.

John Meloun: Yeah. Hey, Arpine Kocharyan, nice talking with you. When you look at the gross openings for 2025, you know, we opened over 340, I think it was 341 new studios in the year. We, we did on a gross basis open up, you know, about 10% more locations. The majority of the, as you called it, attrition or closures in 2025, you know, they were concentrated in a few brands. They were concentrated in, you know, Pure Barre, StretchLab and YogaSix. That was about another 140 locations that went away.

Speaker #1: So we believe that putting in front of 2026 a guidance pretty similar to how we performed in 2025 right now is kind of the right conservative approach.

Speaker #1: We may be taking probably too aggressive of a closure number, meaning probably too high, but we want to err on the side of being conservative.

Speaker #1: So I think what you'll see from a performance standpoint is '26 will largely mimic or look a lot like '25. The distribution of closures will probably still be concentrated in those same three brands of Stretch Lab, Pure Bar, and Yoga 6.

John Meloun: When looking at that kind of distribution, I think it's really important to understand that only 3.5% of, or 92 of the closures happened domestically, which is a very low amount. The majority of the closures are 40, or 48 or the, a larger percentage, which is about 10% of the international locations closed. When you think about, you know, guiding forward on a net basis, it's really hard to, you know, understand where the closures are gonna come from because you don't usually typically know, very much information outside of a couple of months of where some of the studios are struggling.

Speaker #1: I think the distribution of closures between domestic and international will look very much the same, where I think you'll have a low single-digit in the domestic and probably a little bit higher of a percent or a high single-digit percent internationally.

Speaker #1: But the growth algorithm remains the same. It should be about 10% new studio openings per year, offset by how many closures we have.

Speaker #3: Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you. And then just a quick follow-up on your same-store growth outlook. I was wondering if you could walk us through what same-store growth is embedded in your current guidance for this year.

John Meloun: We believe that, you know, putting in front of 2026 a guidance pretty similar to how we performed in 2025 right now is kind of the right conservative approach. We may be taking probably too aggressive of a closure number, meaning probably too high, but we wanna err on the side of being conservative. I think what you'll see from a performance standpoint is 2026 will largely mimic or look a lot like 2025. The distribution of closures will probably still be concentrated in those same three brands of, you know, StretchLab, Pure Barre, and YogaSix.

Speaker #3: And I'm not sure if you mentioned this. I'm sorry if you didn't. I missed it. For Club Pilates, did you give out same-store growth for Q4 and where you expect that to end up for 2026?

Speaker #1: Yeah. Let me comment on that and then give some more context that I think might be helpful, at least from my perspective. So the guide reflects more of the way we ended 2025 in terms of organic growth.

Speaker #1: And I'd be the first one to say that I have very little patience for negative sales trends. And at least in Q4, we definitely should have performed better in this environment with the assets we have.

John Meloun: I think the distribution of closures between domestic and international will look very much the same, where I think you'll have a low single digit in the domestic and probably a little bit higher of a percent or a high single-digit percent internationally. The growth algorithm remains the same. It should be about 10% new studio openings per year, offset by how many closures we have.

Speaker #1: But to me, that's all about competing in a healthy environment. Stepping back from it, I'd say that we've got the brands, and we've got the modalities, that are very strong.

Speaker #1: We still have meaningful first-mover advantage. Our retention remains strong. So after years of growth after growth, we have a top-of-funnel issue to fix. And so we had some marketing missteps, that we talked about.

Arpine Kocharyan: Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you. Then just a quick follow-up on, you know, your same-store growth outlook. I was wondering if you could walk us through what same-store growth is embedded in your current guidance for this year. I'm sorry if you did and I missed it. For Club Pilates, did you give out same-store growth for Q4 and where you expect that to end up for 2026?

Arpine Kocharian: Got it. That's super helpful. Thank you. Then just a quick follow-up on, you know, your same-store growth outlook. I was wondering if you could walk us through what same-store growth is embedded in your current guidance for this year. I'm sorry if you did and I missed it. For Club Pilates, did you give out same-store growth for Q4 and where you expect that to end up for 2026?

Speaker #1: But we're also nascent when it comes to our field support at this point. We've got some clunky apps and websites to address. We're not getting the pricing upside that we think we have the potential to get.

John Meloun: Yeah. Let me comment on that then give some more context that I think might be helpful, at least from my perspective. The guide reflects more of the way we ended 2025 in terms of organic growth. I'd be the first one to say that I have very little patience for negative sales trends, and at least in Q4, we definitely should have performed better in this environment with the assets we have. To me, that's all about, you know, competing in a healthy environment. Stepping back from it, I'd say that we've got the brands, we've got the modalities that are very strong. We still have meaningful first-mover advantage. Our retention remains strong. After years of growth after growth, we have a top-of-funnel issue to fix.

Speaker #1: And we're still pushing for improved performance marketing. So the good news is all of these things are addressable. And this is what really lays the foundation for the plan for 2026.

Speaker #1: But again, to John's point about guidance, we wanted to really not overstep. And so if that's helpful perspective.

Speaker #2: Yeah. And to answer your question, specifically on the performance, for the full year, Club Pilates had a positive 3% same-store sales. The fourth quarter was down 3%.

Speaker #2: But again, we're competing against our performance year over year when it comes to running these promotions. I think the one thing to kind of just kind of re-point out is when you look at Club Pilates and how fast these units ramp and get to full capacity, when you have an install base that virtually is has ramped to this roughly million-ish dollar AUV, it's much harder to always constantly be comping positive without always just taking price because there is only so many available reformers in the units and they're largely these classes are spoken for and taken up.

John Meloun: We had some marketing missteps that we talked about, but we're also nascent when it comes to our field support at this point. We've got some clunky apps and website to address. We're not getting the pricing upside that we think we have the potential to get, and we're still pushing for improved performance marketing. The good news is all of these things are addressable, and this is what really lays the foundation for the plan for 2026. Again, to John's point about guidance, we wanted to really, you know, not overstep. If that's helpful perspective. Yeah. To answer your question specifically on the performance. For the full year, Club Pilates had a positive 3% same-store sale.

Speaker #2: So for us, we do believe Club Pilates it's a volume game here where we want to consistently continue to open up more units and create more supply because we do see the ramps very healthy.

Speaker #2: But it should not be expected that you're going to return back to the days where you're seeing 20 to 10 percent or 10 to 20 percent same-store sales like what happened when we came out of COVID because there's just not that much supply left without opening more units.

Speaker #3: Makes total sense. Thank you, John. Thanks.

John Meloun: The Q4 was down 3%. Again, we're competing against our performance year-over-year when it comes to running these promotions. I think the one thing to kind of just repoint out is when you look at Club Pilates and how fast these units ramp and get to full capacity, when you have an install base that virtually is, has ramped to this, you know, roughly million-ish dollar AUV, it's much harder to always constantly be comping positive, without always just taking price because there is only so many available reformers in the units, and they're largely these classes are spoken for and taken up.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from Ryan Myers with Lake Street Capital. Please state your question.

Speaker #4: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. John, I just wanted to follow up kind of on the answer you gave to the last question and make sure I understand it correctly.

Speaker #4: So that 3% same-store sales decline in Club Pilates, you're just kind of attributing that to the tougher year-over-year comparisons. And there's nothing within that concept itself that you guys are seeing kind of demand soften at all.

Speaker #4: It's more so just that tougher year-over-year comp.

Speaker #1: Yeah. I think the way to think about it is we keep pushing Club Pilates to record levels as far as AUV. And it's like, can you constantly break world records every quarter?

John Meloun: For us, you know, we do believe Club Pilates, it's a volume game here where we wanna consistently continue to open up more units and create more supply because we do see the ramps very healthy. It should not be expected that you're gonna return back to the days where you're seeing, you know, 20% to 10% or 10% to 20% same-store sales like what happened when we came out of COVID because there's just not that much supply left without opening more units.

Speaker #1: And it becomes harder and harder to repeat that. So I think you may come up a second or so short if you put it in an Olympic terms in racing.

Speaker #1: It's not easy to always repeat what you did last year. And we continue to add more units. And I think that's the important part of this equation here is the growth and profitability for the franchisor is about more units.

Arpine Kocharyan: Makes total sense. Thank you, John. Thanks.

Arpine Kocharian: Makes total sense. Thank you, John. Thanks.

Speaker #1: And if we can consistently keep AUVs at these elevated levels, they'll generate really strong royalties. So when you see a negative 3% in Q4, that's not a terrible thing when you can consider for the full year, it was a positive 3% comp.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ryan Meyers with Lake Street Capital. Please state your question.

Ryan Meyers: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. John, I just wanted to follow up kind of on the answer you gave to the last question to make sure I understand it correctly. That 3% same-store sales decline in Club Pilates, you're just kind of attributing that to the tougher year-over-year comparisons, and there's, you know, nothing within that concept itself that you guys are seeing kind of demand, you know, soften at all. It's more so just that tougher year-over-year comp?

Speaker #1: So the business is performing well. The franchisees are doing really well from a four-wall. And the business is producing really strong royalties, which is showing up as strong margin flow through in the business.

Speaker #4: Yeah. And I would also add to what John's saying, and maybe emphasize what John is saying too, and it gets to the point about future unit growth.

John Meloun: Yeah, I think the way to think about it is like, you know, we keep pushing Club Pilates to, like, record levels as far as, like, AUV, and it's like, can you constantly break world records every quarter? It becomes harder and harder to repeat that. I think, you know, you may come up a second or so short, you know, if you put it in Olympic terms in racing. It's not easy to always repeat what you did last year. You know, we continue to add more units, and I think that's the important part of this equation here is, you know, the growth and profitability for the franchisor is about more units. If we can consistently keep AUVs at these elevated levels, they'll generate really strong royalties.

Speaker #4: If you just break it into you'll have unit growth that is more white space than your expectation there could be for a higher first-year AUV, but perhaps not as much growth in comp.

Speaker #4: There's also the scenario where we're adding into existing markets where there, you might have a slightly lower AUV still far better than what you would have put into any model and then you've got more opportunity for comp.

Speaker #4: And so I could see as we continue to go along the path of doubling the network, which we feel really good about, and our franchisees feel really good about, I think we're going to have that dynamic as we go.

John Meloun: You know, when you see a negative 3% in Q4, that's not a terrible thing when you think consider for the full year, it was a positive 3% comp. The business is performing well. The franchisees are doing really well from a four-wall, and the business is producing really strong royalties, which is showing up as a strong margin flow through in the business.

Speaker #4: And so that will impact overall comp. It's just a fact of life. And we're working hard to make sure that we do all the right things that organically grow the business.

Speaker #4: But we're not going to be terribly disappointed with the AUVs we're producing under either scenario.

Mike Nuzzo: Yeah, and I would also add to what John's saying and maybe emphasize what John is saying, too, and it gets to the point about future unit growth. If you just, you know, break it into, you'll have unit growth that is more white space, then your expectation there could be for a higher first-year AUV, but perhaps not as much growth in comp. There's also the scenario where we're adding into existing markets, where there you might have a slightly lower AUV, still far better than what you would have put into any model, and then you've got more opportunity for comp.

Speaker #1: Okay, fair enough. That makes sense. And then a couple of times during the call, you guys mentioned the pricing survey that you put out there.

Speaker #1: Just kind of wondering if you can talk about what you guys learned from that and how you think you potentially can apply that.

Speaker #4: Yeah. First of all, I was really happy with the work that the team did. We used an outside consultant, as I think I mentioned before.

Speaker #4: They produced some real foundational work. They looked into our data in a way that we had not viewed it in the past. And so that was really good.

Mike Nuzzo: I could see as we continue to go along the path of doubling the network, which we feel really good about and our franchisees feel really good about, I think we're gonna have that dynamic as we go. That will impact overall comp. It's just a fact of life. You know, we're working hard to make sure that we do all the right things that organically grow the business, but we're not gonna be terribly disappointed with the AUVs we're producing under either scenario.

Speaker #4: And then we took that work and we pressure-tested it directly with a group of key franchisees. And so it was a very collaborative effort.

Speaker #4: And the result of that, our several initiatives that we will be testing starting around Q2. And as we see results from those tests, we'll look to expand it to the rest of the network.

Speaker #4: Some of the initiatives are I would say relatively straightforward. For instance, pricing adjustments for inflation, enhanced trial offers, some updated cancellation fees, looking at where we're pricing regionally and helping to coach the franchisees on making that more consistent where applicable.

Ryan Meyers: Okay, fair enough. That makes sense. You know, a couple times during the call, you guys mentioned the pricing survey that you put out there. You know, I'm just kind of wondering if you can talk about what you guys learned from that and how you think you potentially can apply that.

Speaker #4: And then some are a little more strategic, like potentially a new unlimited offering. Which we're excited about. So I would say that this work is going to have a lot of applicability, not just for Club Pilates, but across our other brands and some of the brands like Yoga 6 have already started along the path of a similar approach on pricing.

Mike Nuzzo: Yeah, first of all, I was really happy with the work that the team did. We used an outside consultant, as I think I mentioned before. They produced some real foundational work. They looked into our data in a way that we had not viewed it in the past, and so that was really good. We took that work, and we pressure tested it directly with a group of key franchisees, and so it was a very collaborative effort. The result of that are several initiatives that we will be testing starting around Q2. As we see results from those tests, we'll look to expand it to the rest of the network. Some of the initiatives are, I would say, relatively straightforward.

Speaker #4: So it's been really good to see we'll give you a sense of the impact, probably over the next couple of calls. Sometimes it takes a while for pricing to really work its way through the membership base.

Speaker #4: But it's a really good start.

Speaker #1: Got it. Thanks for taking my questions. Your next question comes from Jeff van Cinderen with B Riley Securities. Please state your question.

Speaker #5: Hi, everyone. Just to clarify, did you spend more on marketing in Q4?

Mike Nuzzo: For instance, like pricing adjustments for inflation, enhanced trial offers, some updated cancellation fees, looking at where we're pricing regionally and helping to coach the franchisees on making that more consistent where applicable. Some are a little more strategic, like potentially a new unlimited offering, which we're excited about. I would say that this work is gonna have a lot of applicability, not just for Club Pilates, but across our other brands. Some of the brands, like YogaSix, have already started along the path of a similar approach on pricing. It's been really good to see. We'll give you a sense of the impact probably over the next couple calls.

Speaker #1: Yeah. There was about a $4 million investment that we made, and we talked about this to really look at a number of marketing strategies and see which ones were the most effective.

Speaker #1: So we could use that as we rolled into 2026. So there was about a $4 million higher marketing fund spend in Q4 than the income we received.

Speaker #5: Okay. But if we sort of look at it organic, is there a way to look at it organically and parse it out and say, "Okay.

Speaker #5: You didn't really spend—you did this, what I would call maybe a special project. Would that $4 million, if you want to call it that—but the core marketing didn't go up, correct?

Speaker #1: Well, all the marketing that we spend on a quarterly basis is related to marketing funds. So in the fourth quarter, we brought in about $8.9 million in marketing fund revenue, and we spent around $13.3 million.

Mike Nuzzo: Sometimes it takes a while for pricing to really work its way through the membership base, but it's a really good start.

Ryan Meyers: Got it. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker #1: So the excess, or I guess you can call it roughly that $4 million excess, that was marketing funds surplus dollars that the majority of it came from Club Pilates when post-COVID, the business ramped faster than we could actually deploy the dollars.

Operator: Your next question comes from Jeff Van Sinderen with B. Riley Securities. Please state your question.

Jeff Van Sinderen: Hi, everyone. Just to clarify, did you spend more on marketing in Q4?

John Meloun: Yeah, there was about a $4 million investment that we made. We talked about this, to really look at a number of marketing strategies and see which ones were the most effective, so we could use that as we rolled into 2026. There was about a $4 million higher marketing fund spend in Q4 than the income we received.

Speaker #1: So there was a surplus balance in the marketing fund for Club Pilates that we now have the benefit of investing in the brand to start driving more leads.

Speaker #1: And we expect to do that again in the first half of 2026 as we burn off more of that surplus to really drive more brand awareness, but also more lead generation into that brand.

Jeff Van Sinderen: If we sort of look at it organically and parse it out and say, okay, you didn't really spend, you did this, what I would call maybe a special project with that $4 million, if you want to call it that, the core marketing didn't go up, correct?

Speaker #5: Okay, good to hear. And then I know Club Pilates was down slightly on comp in Q4, and obviously, a tough comparison there. But how are you thinking about the Club Pilates comp progression as you think about this year?

Mike Nuzzo: Well, all the marketing that we spend on a quarterly basis is related to marketing funds. In Q4, we brought in about $8.9 million in marketing fund revenue, and we spent around $13.3 million. That, the excess, I guess you can call it roughly about $4 million excess, that was marketing funds surplus dollars that the majority of it came from Club Pilates when post-COVID, the business ramped faster than we could actually deploy the dollars. There was a surplus balance in the marketing fund for Club Pilates that we now have the benefit of investing into the brand to start driving more leads.

Speaker #5: When do the comparisons get easier? When do you anticipate turning positive?

Speaker #4: I won't give you a specifics. And we don't forecast quarterly. I'll just give you a couple of data points. I think that last year, around the middle of the year is when we started to see more weakness around top-of-funnel.

Speaker #4: And then the other piece I would tell you is that obviously, the things we've been talking about take a little time to start getting traction.

Speaker #4: So again, as we go through the year, I think you'll see more progress.

Speaker #5: Okay. Fair enough. questions.

Mike Nuzzo: We expect to do that again in the first half of 2026, as we burn off more of that surplus to really drive more brand awareness, but also more lead generation into that brand.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Owen Rickert with Northland Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question here. You did mention the prepared marks. I think you said you have 35 field team members now.

Jeff Van Sinderen: Okay, good to hear. I know Club Pilates was down slightly on comp in Q4, obviously, a tough comparison there. How are you thinking about the Club Pilates comp progression as you think about this year? When do the comparisons get easier? When do you anticipate turning positive?

Speaker #6: And that's kind of been an initiative we've been talking about the last couple of quarters, I guess. Can you just dive a bit deeper into how that initiative is performing and maybe what tactics have been working and where are some areas of improvement that these team members are assisting franchisees with?

Speaker #4: Yeah, really good question. Yeah, we have 35, and that feels like the right number at this point as we look at the network and what they will be responsible for helping with.

Mike Nuzzo: I won't give you specifics, you know, we don't forecast quarterly. I'll just give you a couple data points. I think that last year, around the middle of the year, is when we started to see more weakness around top of funnel. The other piece I would tell you is that, you know, obviously, the things we've been talking about take a little time to start getting traction. Again, you know, as we go through the year, I think you'll see more progress.

Speaker #4: They have really just been deployed and trained, and we're starting to have them engaging with franchisees on a regular basis. What we're directing them to do and help with is driving sales.

Jeff Van Sinderen: Okay, fair enough. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker #4: So helping with our franchise partners around information around how to help drive sales, how to help drive conversion, how to help drive initial appointments, how to follow up on leads.

Operator: Your next question comes from Owen Rickert with Northland Capital Markets. Please state your question.

Owen Rickert: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question here. You just mentioned the prepared remarks. I think you said you have 35 field team members now, and that's kind of been an initiative we've been talking about the last couple of quarters. I guess, can you just dive a bit deeper into how that initiative is performing and maybe what tactics have been working, and where are some areas of improvement that these team members are assisting franchisees with?

Speaker #4: When it comes to new studios, they will be involved in helping with the presale process, which is really, really important for getting our initial membership-based established.

Speaker #4: And then they also have a designated group of target studios. And so these are studios that either the franchisee has reached out to us, or we've seen in data where there's a potential for a studio to perform better.

Mike Nuzzo: Yeah, really good question. Yeah, we have 35, and that feels like the right number at this point as we look at the network and what they will be responsible for helping with. They have really just been deployed and trained, and we're starting to have them engaging with franchisees on a regular basis. What we're directing them to do and help with is driving sales, helping with our franchise partners around information around how to help drive sales, how to help drive conversion, how to help drive initial appointments, how to follow up on leads. When it comes to new studios, they will be involved in helping with the presale process, which is really, really important for getting our initial membership base established.

Speaker #4: And they are making visits and doing a sort of a comprehensive assessment of how they can help coach the studio team the studio manager to help drive better results.

Speaker #4: And so that's the focus they've really just gotten started. But I'm excited. We've gotten some really good feedback from the franchisees about these visits and their engagement.

Speaker #4: And I think as we get through the year, the other advantage that they will give us is as we have initiatives, like pricing, for example, they can help with ensuring that it's implemented really, really well, so.

Speaker #6: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And there are no further questions at this time, so I'll hand the floor back to Mike Nuzzo for closing remarks.

Mike Nuzzo: They also have a designated group of target studios, these are studios that either the franchisee has reached out to us, or we've seen in data where there's a potential for a studio to perform better. They are making visits and doing a sort of a comprehensive assessment of how they can help coach the studio team, the studio manager, to help drive better results. That's the focus. They've really just gotten started. I'm excited. We've gotten some really good feedback from the franchisees about these visits and their engagement.

Speaker #4: I'd like to thank you all for joining us today. And for a number of you, we look forward to seeing you at the Raymond James Conference.

Mike Nuzzo: I think as we get through the year, the other advantage that they will give us is, as we have initiatives, like pricing, for example, they can help with ensuring that it's implemented, really well.

Owen Rickert: Great. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time, so I'll hand the floor back to Mike Nuzzo for closing remarks.

Mike Nuzzo: I'd like to thank you all for joining us today. For a number of you, we look forward to seeing you at the Raymond James Conference.

Operator: Thank you. With that, we conclude today's call. All parties may disconnect. Have a good day.

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