Q4 2025 Crinetics Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call

February 26, 2026

Speaker #1: Welcome to Crinetics Pharmaceuticals' fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, we will hold a question-and-answer session.

Speaker #1: In order to ask a question, please press star, then one on your telephone. I would now like to turn the call over to Gayathri Diwakar, Head of Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss the fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. Today on the call, we have Dr. Scott Struthers, founder and chief executive officer; Dr. Alan Krasner, chief endocrinologist; and Toby Schilke, chief financial officer.

Gayathri Diwakar: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss the Q4 and full year 2025 results. Today on the call we have Dr. Scott Struthers, Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Alan Krasner, Chief Endocrinologist, and Tobin Schilke, Chief Financial Officer. Also joining for the Q&A portion will be Isabel Kalofonos, Chief Commercial Officer. Please note there's a slide deck for today's presentation, which is in the Events and Presentation section of the Investors page on the Crinetics website. In addition, a press release was issued earlier today and is also available on the corporate website. As a reminder, we'll be making forward-looking statements, and I invite you to learn more about the risks and uncertainties associated with these statements as disclosed in our SEC filings.

Speaker #2: Also joining for the Q&A portion will be Isabel Kalofonos, chief commercial officer; please note there's a slide deck for today's presentation, which is in the events and presentation section of the investors' page on the Crinetics website.

Speaker #2: In addition, a press release was issued earlier today and is also available on the corporate website. As a reminder, we'll be making forward-looking statements and I invite you to learn more about the risks and uncertainties associated with these statements as disclosed in our SEC filings.

Speaker #2: Such forward-looking statements are not a guarantee of performance and the company's actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied in such statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business.

Gayathri Diwakar: Such forward-looking statements are not a guarantee of performance, and the company's actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied in such statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. In particular, today we'll be reviewing launch progress to date, our commercialization plan, as well as estimates relating to market size, future performance, and other data about the acromegaly market, which are all necessarily subject to a high degree of uncertainty and risk. These forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in today's news release, the company's other news releases in Crinetics's SEC filings, including its annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. I would also like to specify that the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that's accurate only as of this live broadcast.

Speaker #2: In particular, today we will be reviewing launch progress to date, our commercialization plans, as well as estimates delaying to market size, future performance, and other data about the acromegaly market, which are all necessarily subject to a high degree of uncertainty and risk.

Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in today's news release, the company's other news releases, and Crinetics SEC filings, including its annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.

Gayathri Diwakar: These forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in today's news release, the company's other news releases in Crinetics's SEC filings, including its annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. I would also like to specify that the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that's accurate only as of this live broadcast.

Speaker #2: I would also like to specify that the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of this live broadcast.

Speaker #2: Crinetics takes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this conference call. With that, I'll hand the call over to Scott.

Gayathri Diwakar: Crinetics takes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this conference call. With that, I'll hand the call over to Scott.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Gayathri, and thank you all for joining us today. 2025 was a breakout year for Crinetics. We're transitioning from building a pipeline to building a business.

Scott Struthers: Thank you, Gayathri, thank you all for joining us today. 2025 was a breakout year for Crinetics. We're transitioning from building a pipeline to building a business. In 2025, we successfully launched our first commercial product with a label that reflects its ability to become the preferred medical treatment for acromegaly. PALSONIFY uptake continues to grow. We presented compelling Phase 2 data on our second late-stage candidate that illustrates its potential to be the preferred medical treatment for congenital adrenal hyperplasia, or CAH, and Cushing's disease. atumelnant Phase 3 studies in both adult and pediatric participants with CAH are underway. Today we will tell you about its Phase 2/3 study in Cushing's disease.

Speaker #3: In 2025, we successfully launched our first commercial product with a label that reflects its ability to become the preferred medical treatment for acromegaly. Calsonify uptake continues to grow.

Speaker #3: We presented compelling Phase 2 data on our second late-stage candidate that illustrates its potential to be the preferred medical treatment for congenital adrenal hyperplasia, or CAH, and Cushing's disease.

Speaker #3: At Tumelenet, phase three studies in both adult and pediatric participants with CAH are underway. And today, we will tell you about its phase two/three study in Cushing's disease.

Speaker #3: Finally, the first candidate from our new non-peptide drug conjugate program, CRM-9682, has begun the dose escalation phase of a phase one, two study in a broad basket of people with SST2 expressing tumors.

Scott Struthers: The first candidate from our new nonpeptide drug conjugate program, CRN09682, has begun the dose escalation phase of a Phase 1/2 study in a broad basket of people with SST2-expressing tumors. With this growing pipeline and the support of our strong balance sheet, we are now focusing on building a successful commercial business that will grow into the leading endocrinology company. Turning to slide 5, before I turn the call over to Alan to talk about the atumelnant development program in Cushing's disease, let me take a few minutes to review results from the PALSONIFY launch. In Q4, we received more than 200 enrollment forms. As a reminder, this included all 22 US participants in the open label extension studies of the clinical program. We're effectively getting the word out about PALSONIFY.

Speaker #3: With this our strong balance sheet, we are now focusing on building a successful commercial business that will grow into the leading endocrinology company. Turning to slide five, before I turn the call over to Alan to talk about the Atumelenet development program in Cushing's disease, let me take a few minutes to review results from the Calsonify launch.

Speaker #3: As we previously shared, in Q4, we received more than 200 enrollment forms. As a reminder, this included all 22 US participants in the open label, extension studies, of the clinical program.

Speaker #3: We're effectively getting the word out about Calsonify. More than 125 unique prescribers in both community and pituitary treatment center practices have entrusted the treatment of their patients to Calsonify.

Scott Struthers: More than 125 unique prescribers in both community and pituitary treatment center practices have entrusted the treatment of their patients to PALSONIFY. Finally, we're making significant progress with payers. As we announced in January, we are seeing early and encouraging formulary momentum. Payers recognize the transformative value we're bringing to the acromegaly community. We are already securing wins with some of the top plans in the country, adding PALSONIFY to their formulary with straightforward prior authorization written directly to our label and no step edits. In the interim, we expect to continue seeing reimbursement through the medical exceptions process for patients from all payer types, including all government payers. Turning to slide 6, with the launch of PALSONIFY in the US, we have built a fully integrated and highly capable commercial enterprise....

Speaker #3: Finally, we're making significant progress with payers. As we announced in January, we're seeing early and encouraging formulary momentum. Payers recognize the transformative value we're bringing to the acromegaly community.

Speaker #3: We are already securing wins with some of the top plans in the country, adding Calsonify to their formulary, with straightforward prior authorization written directly to our label and no step adds.

Speaker #3: In the interim, we expect to continue seeing reimbursement through the medical exceptions process for patients from all payer types, including all government payers. Turning to slide six, with the launch of Calsonify in the US, we have built a fully integrated and highly capable commercial enterprise.

Speaker #3: Our sales professionals are in physician practices educating about Calsonify and the services Crinetics provides to patients and offices, including help from our nurse educators and field reimbursement specialists.

Scott Struthers: Our sales professionals are in physician practices educating about PALSONIFY and the services Crinetics provides to patients and offices, including help from our nurse educators and field reimbursement specialists. Our efficacy-first messaging, shown on our HCP site on the left side of this slide, is resonating with healthcare providers, and they understand the importance of symptom control as well as biochemical control. Our medical affairs team is there to help with deeper scientific and medical support for providers. We're presenting data on PALSONIFY and the rest of our pipeline at regional and international endocrinology conferences every month. CrinetiCARE is online and staffed by nurses to help patients navigate their acromegaly healthcare. Our first patient ambassadors, two of whom are shown on the right side of this slide, have been deployed to provide patient-to-patient conversations and testimonials. Our market access team is ensuring that all patients can get access to PALSONIFY.

Speaker #3: Our efficacy-first messaging, shown on our HCP site on the left side of this slide, is resonating with healthcare providers and they understand the importance of symptom control as well as biochemical control.

Speaker #3: Our medical affairs team is there to help with deeper scientific and medical support for providers. We're presenting data on Calsonify in the rest of our pipeline at regional and international endocrinology conferences every month.

Speaker #3: Crineticare is online and staffed by nurses to help patients navigate their acromegaly healthcare. Our first patient ambassadors, two of whom are shown on the right side of this slide, have been deployed to provide patient-to-patient conversations and testimonials.

Speaker #3: Our market access team is ensuring that all patients can get access to Calsonify. I'm very proud of the great team we've built and their passionate dedication to serving our patients.

Scott Struthers: I'm very proud of the great team we've built and their passionate dedication to serving our patients. Every day, they're working hard, spreading the word, and helping people with acromegaly get access to Palsonify. Our goal for Palsonify is to become the new standard of care for people with acromegaly, and we are well on our way. This is about more than just the launch of Palsonify. This is about building, testing, refining, and honing an enterprise to launch many new innovative pharmaceuticals to come from our pipeline. This is the core of the team that will launch paltusotine for the treatment of carcinoid syndrome, atumelnant for CAH and Cushing's, and our other pipeline candidates pending their own approval. As I said, we're now in the stage of building a sustainable business to create, develop, and deliver novel therapeutics using the tools of endocrinology.

Speaker #3: Every day, they're working hard, spreading the word, and helping people with acromegaly get access to Calsonify. Our goal for Calsonify is to become the new standard of care for people with acromegaly and we are well on our way.

Speaker #3: But this is about more than just the launch of Calsonify. This is about building, testing, refining, and honing an enterprise to launch many new innovative pharmaceuticals to come from our pipeline.

Speaker #3: This is the core of the team that will launch Paltucitine for the treatment of carcinoid syndrome. Atumelenet for CAH. And Cushing's. And our other pipeline candidates pending their own approvals.

Scott Struthers: This is the core of the team that will launch paltusotine for the treatment of carcinoid syndrome, atumelnant for CAH and Cushing's, and our other pipeline candidates pending their own approval. As I said, we're now in the stage of building a sustainable business to create, develop, and deliver novel therapeutics using the tools of endocrinology.

Speaker #3: As I said, we're now in the stage of building a sustainable business to create, develop, and deliver novel therapeutics using the tools of endocrinology.

Speaker #3: With that, I'll hand it over to our chief endocrinologist, Alan Krasner, to talk about the pipeline and the upcoming Cushing's study in particular. Alan?

Scott Struthers: With that, I'll hand it over to our Chief Endocrinologist, Alan Krasner, to talk about the pipeline and the upcoming Cushing's study in particular. Alan?

Speaker #4: Thank you, Scott. As seen on slide eight, our late-stage pipeline is guided by compelling science and the ability to develop innovative candidates in-house. My very talented colleagues at Crinetics design novel molecules which are rationally aimed at the key targets of endocrine disease.

Alan Krasner: Thank you, Scott. As seen on slide 8, our late-stage pipeline is guided by compelling science and the ability to develop innovative candidates in-house. My very talented colleagues at Crinetics design novel molecules, which are rationally aimed at the key targets of endocrine disease. These drug candidates have consistently demonstrated the intended pharmacology in healthy human volunteers and in patients. paltusotine is already approved in the US for the treatment of acromegaly. We are in phase 3, evaluating paltusotine for the control of carcinoid syndrome. We are also actively enrolling patients in both the later-stage studies of atumelnant in adult and pediatric patients with congenital adrenal hyperplasia, or CAH. In the phase 1 study of our novel nonpeptide drug conjugate, CRN09682, in patients with SST2-expressing tumors.

Speaker #4: These drug candidates have consistently demonstrated the intended pharmacology and healthy human volunteers and in patients. Paltucitine is already approved in the US for the treatment of acromegaly and we are in phase three evaluating Paltucitine for the control of carcinoid syndrome.

Speaker #4: We are also actively enrolling patients in both the later-stage studies of Atumelenet in adult and pediatric patients with congenital adrenal hyperplasia or CAH. And in the phase one study of our novel non-peptide drug conjugate, CRN-09682, in patients with SST2 expressing tumors.

Speaker #4: Today, I want to focus on Atumelenet and why we believe ACTH antagonism is a very promising approach for both CAH and ACTH-dependent Cushing's syndrome or ADCS.

Alan Krasner: Today, I want to focus on atumelnant and why we believe ACTH antagonism is a very promising approach for both CAH and ACTH-dependent Cushing's syndrome or ADCS. ADCS is a rare but devastating disease that endocrinologists will tell you is among the most difficult diseases to treat medically. The multitude of symptoms and disfiguring physical changes that occur in the body can be overwhelming. If untreated, ADCS results in significant morbidity and premature mortality. We hear from patients with ADCS that they feel a profound loss of control, which may reflect the unstable nature of this disease, characterized by unpredictable exacerbation patterns. There are also often difficult years leading to a clear diagnosis, followed by cycling through many different treatment options, not to mention unrelenting financial, psychological, physical, and emotional burdens.

Speaker #4: ADCS is a rare but devastating disease that endocrinologists will tell you is among the most difficult diseases to treat medically. The multitude of symptoms and disfiguring physical changes that occur in the body can be overwhelming.

Speaker #4: If untreated, ADCS results in significant morbidity and premature mortality. We hear from patients with ADCS that they feel a profound loss of control which may reflect the unstable nature of this disease characterized by unpredictable exacerbation patterns.

Speaker #4: There are also often difficult years leading to a clear diagnosis, followed by cycling through many different treatment options not to mention unrelenting financial, psychological, physical, and emotional burdens.

Speaker #4: Many patients with ADCS are very sick, and the risk-benefit profiles of existing medical therapies are not ideal for the long-term control of this disease.

Alan Krasner: Many patients with ADCS are very sick, and the risk-benefit profiles of existing medical therapies are not ideal for the long-term control of this disease. Although the first-line treatment for ADCS is attempted surgical removal of the causative tumor, many patients are not cured by surgery. Uncured patients typically undergo attempts at medical therapy, but predictable prevention of disease exacerbation cycles at tolerable doses can be difficult to achieve. Often, patients need to undergo repeat pituitary surgeries, radiotherapy, or in the most severe cases, bilateral adrenalectomy. There remains a significant unmet need for a simple and reliable medical treatment for this life-threatening condition. This is why we are eager to proceed with the research necessary to evaluate whether atumelnant might represent a significant step forward for the many patients who have been waiting for a new, dependable approach. Moving on to slide 10.

Speaker #4: Although the first-line treatment for ADCS is attempted surgical removal of the causative tumor, many patients are not cured by surgery. Uncured patients typically undergo attempts at medical therapy but predictable prevention of disease exacerbation cycles at tolerable doses can be difficult to achieve.

Speaker #4: Often, patients need to undergo repeat pituitary surgeries, radiotherapy, or in the most severe cases, bilateral adrenalectomy. There remains a significant unmet need for a simple and reliable medical treatment for this life-threatening condition.

Speaker #4: This is why we are eager to proceed with the research necessary to evaluate whether Atumelenet might represent a significant step forward for the many patients who have been waiting for a new dependable approach.

Alan Krasner: This is why we are eager to proceed with the research necessary to evaluate whether atumelnant might represent a significant step forward for the many patients who have been waiting for a new, dependable approach. Moving on to slide 10.

Speaker #4: Moving on to slide 10, here we see a more detailed view of the cause of ADCS and Atumelenet's mechanism of action. Cortisol is an essential glucocorticoid hormone produced in the adrenal glands.

Alan Krasner: Here, we see a more detailed view of the cause of ADCS and atumelnant's mechanism of action. Cortisol is an essential glucocorticoid hormone produced in the adrenal glands. Its main purpose is to make it possible for our bodies to cope with any kind of stress, including illness or injury. Although we can't live without it, if we are exposed to too much cortisol, we can get very sick. Exposure to too much cortisol or cortisol-like medication is called Cushing's syndrome. Cushing's syndrome is most commonly caused by taking too much exogenous glucocorticoid prescribed for a variety of conditions. However, Cushing's syndrome can also arise from endogenous or spontaneously occurring causes. Most endogenous Cushing's syndrome is caused by overproduction of ACTH by pituitary gland tumors. The normal function of ACTH is to stimulate the adrenal glands to produce more cortisol, and it stimulates growth of the glands.

Speaker #4: Its main purpose is to make it possible for our bodies to cope with any kind of stress, including illness or injury. Although we can't live without it, if we are exposed to too much cortisol, we can get very sick.

Speaker #4: Exposure to too much cortisol or cortisol-like medication is called Cushing's syndrome. Cushing's syndrome is most commonly caused by taking too much exogenous glucocorticoid prescribed for a variety of conditions.

Speaker #4: However, Cushing's syndrome can also arise from endogenous, or spontaneously occurring, causes. Most endogenous Cushing's syndrome is caused by overproduction of ACTH by pituitary gland tumors.

Speaker #4: The normal function of ACTH is to stimulate the adrenal glands to produce more cortisol and it stimulates growth of the glands. Sometimes, tumors that secrete too much ACTH arise outside the pituitary gland when this happens, it is called ectopic ACTH syndrome.

Alan Krasner: The normal function of ACTH is to stimulate the adrenal glands to produce more cortisol, and it stimulates growth of the glands.

Alan Krasner: Sometimes, tumors that secrete too much ACTH arise outside the pituitary gland. When this happens, it is called ectopic ACTH syndrome. The key driver in both pituitary disease and ectopic ACTH syndrome is ACTH, and together, these conditions are called ACTH-dependent Cushing's syndrome. These tumors secrete ACTH autonomously, which means they do not depend on CRF secretion to drive disease, and therefore ADCS would not respond to CRF receptor blockers. For nearly a century since the discovery of ACTH, blocking the ACTH effect at the adrenals has been a long-sought fundamental treatment target for ACTH-dependent Cushing's syndrome. Atumelnant is a once-daily oral tablet and is the first ACTH receptor antagonist tested in humans for the treatment of ACTH-mediated disease. As you know, we have already reported promising phase 2 results from the studies evaluating atumelnant for the treatment of another ACTH-mediated disease, congenital adrenal hyperplasia.

Speaker #4: And the key driver in both pituitary disease and ectopic ACTH syndrome is ACTH and together these conditions are called ACTH-dependent Cushing's syndrome. These tumors secrete ACTH autonomously, which means they do not depend on CRF secretion to drive disease and therefore ADCS would not respond to CRF receptor blockers.

Speaker #4: For nearly a century since the discovery of ACTH, blocking the ACTH effect at the adrenals has been a long-sought fundamental goal in ACTH-dependent Cushing's syndrome. Atumelenet is a once-daily oral tablet and is the first ACTH receptor antagonist tested in humans for the treatment of ACTH-mediated disease.

Speaker #4: As you know, we have already reported promising phase two results from the studies evaluating Atumelenet for the treatment of another ACTH-mediated disease, congenital adrenal hyperplasia.

Alan Krasner: As you know, we have already reported promising phase 2 results from the studies evaluating atumelnant for the treatment of another ACTH-mediated disease, congenital adrenal hyperplasia.

Speaker #4: But now let's focus on ADCS. Turning to slide 11, in June 2024, we reported initial results from an ongoing collaboration with colleagues at the NIH.

Alan Krasner: Now let's focus on ADCS. Turning to slide 11. In June 2024, we reported initial results from an ongoing collaboration with colleagues at the NIH. In this single center, phase 1B/2A study, participants with active ADCS were initially treated with 80 mg of oral atumelnant once per day for 10 consecutive days, with frequent measurements of biomarkers. These biomarker assessments included 24-hour urine collections for free cortisol, or UFC, which is the recommended primary endpoint for registrational trials in Cushing's disease. UFC responses occurred within days of starting atumelnant. The magnitude and speed of efficacy in this disease is unprecedented, and if confirmed in longer-term trials, atumelnant could represent that single and reliable medical treatment greatly needed by people suffering with ADCS. In the NIH study, atumelnant was generally well-tolerated.

Speaker #4: In this single center, phase 1B/2A study, participants with active ADCS were initially treated with 80 milligrams of oral Atumelenet once per day for 10 consecutive days with frequent measurements of biomarkers.

Speaker #4: These biomarker assessments included 24-hour urine collections for free cortisol, or UFC, which is the recommended primary endpoint for registrational trials in Cushing's disease. UFC responses occurred within days of starting Atumelenet.

Speaker #4: The magnitude and speed of efficacy in this disease is unprecedented and if confirmed in longer-term trials, Atumelenet could represent that single and reliable medical treatment greatly needed by people suffering with ADCS.

Speaker #4: In the NIH study, Atumelenet was generally well tolerated. All patients experienced a decline in serum cortisol below 5 micrograms per deciliter, and although these patients were minimally symptomatic, they were promptly started by protocol on low-dose physiologic oral cortisol, otherwise known as hydrocortisone, replacement therapy.

Alan Krasner: All patients experienced a decline in serum cortisol below 5 micrograms per deciliter, and although these patients were minimally symptomatic, they were promptly started by protocol on low-dose physiologic oral cortisol, otherwise known as hydrocortisone replacement therapy. All patients did well, with no worrisome episodes of acute adrenal insufficiency, and most patients at the end of treatment still had normal urine-free cortisol levels, even though they were taking small amounts of exogenous cortisol. Currently available cortisol-lowering drugs can cause glucocorticoid deficiency, and some patients develop unpredictable episodes of acute adrenal insufficiency. For this reason, many physicians who treat ADCS are becoming increasingly interested in a proactive block and replace approach, in which low doses of glucocorticoid are started earlier rather than later when initiating Cushing's medications. The idea is to prevent potentially dangerous episodes of adrenal insufficiency rather than waiting for them to happen.

Speaker #4: All patients did well with no worrisome episodes of acute adrenal insufficiency and most patients at the end of treatment still had normal urine-free cortisol levels even though they were taking small amounts of exogenous cortisol.

Speaker #4: Currently available cortisol-lowering drugs can cause glucocorticoid deficiency and some patients develop unpredictable episodes of acute adrenal insufficiency. For this reason, many physicians who treat ADCS are becoming increasingly interested in a proactive block and replace approach in which low doses of glucocorticoid are started earlier rather than later when initiating Cushing's medications.

Alan Krasner: For this reason, many physicians who treat ADCS are becoming increasingly interested in a proactive block and replace approach, in which low doses of glucocorticoid are started earlier rather than later when initiating Cushing's medications. The idea is to prevent potentially dangerous episodes of adrenal insufficiency rather than waiting for them to happen.

Speaker #4: The idea is to prevent potentially dangerous episodes of adrenal insufficiency rather than waiting for them to happen. Determining what is the best way to replace glucocorticoid with Atumelenet treatment is an important consideration for our clinical development program.

Alan Krasner: Determining what is the best way to replace glucocorticoid with atumelnant treatment is an important consideration for our clinical development program. As in our acromegaly program, we strive to not only assess biochemical biomarker responses, but also the overall patient experience in our studies. We saw that participants in the NIH ADCS study experienced improvement in many of the myriad symptoms of Cushing's, even within the short treatment duration of that study. Since reporting these initial data, additional doses of atumelnant have been explored at the NIH. We look forward to sharing these newer results at an upcoming medical meeting. We will also be initiating an operationally seamless global Phase 2/3 study in the first half of this year, the design of which I will now review.

Speaker #4: As in our acromegaly program, we strive to not only assess biochemical biomarker responses but also the overall patient experience in our studies. We saw that participants in the NIH ADCS study experienced improvement in many of the myriad symptoms of Cushing's even within the short treatment duration of that study.

Speaker #4: Since reporting these initial data, additional doses of Atumelenet have been explored at the NIH. We look forward to sharing these newer results at an upcoming medical meeting.

Speaker #4: We will also be initiating an operationally seamless global phase 2/3 study in the first half of this year, the design of which I will now review.

Speaker #4: Equilibrium ADCS is a seamless phase two, three study which allows us to capture the many operational efficiencies of continuing sites opened in the phase two part of the study into the phase three part.

Alan Krasner: EQUILIBRIUM ADCS is a seamless Phase 2/3 study, which allows us to capture the many operational efficiencies of continuing sites opened in the Phase 2 part of the study into the Phase 3 part. The purpose of the Phase 2 is to evaluate safety and the efficacy of a range of doses of atumelnant in patients with active ADCS over a treatment period of 3 months. Based on our short-term dosing data from the NIH study, it looks like a simple single dose of atumelnant would very effectively and rapidly correct the excess cortisol output from the adrenals in most patients with ADCS. Now that we are entering Phase 2b, it is important to confirm this with longer-term dosing and to identify the right dose of atumelnant to use in the confirmatory Phase 3 part of the study.

Speaker #4: The purpose of the phase two is to evaluate safety and the efficacy of a range of doses of Atumelenet in patients with active ADCS over a treatment period of three months.

Speaker #4: Based on our short-term dosing data from the NIH study, it looks like a simple single dose of Atumelenet would very effectively and rapidly correct the excess cortisol output from the adrenals in most patients with ADCS.

Speaker #4: Now that we are entering phase two B, it is important to confirm this with longer-term dosing and to identify the right dose of Atumelenet to use in the confirmatory phase three part of the study.

Speaker #4: You can see that we are testing the dose range of 20 to 80 milligrams per day of Atumelenet in the phase two segment. We are testing lower doses than those used initially in the proof-of-concept NIH study, and this is a testament to the potency of this unique mechanism of action.

Alan Krasner: You can see that we are testing the dose range of 20 to 80 mg per day of atumelnant in the phase 2 segment. We are testing lower doses than those used initially in the proof of concept NIH study. This is a testament to the potency of this unique mechanism of action. The 20-mg dose is being studied in an open label arm in which glucocorticoid replacement can safely be used reactively, only if needed, based on the occurrence of a low serum cortisol result. The 40-mg and 80-mg doses will be evaluated in a randomized, placebo-controlled segment of phase 2.

Speaker #4: The 20 milligram dose is being studied in an open-label arm in which glucocorticoid replacement can safely be used reactively only if needed, based on the occurrence of a low serum cortisol result.

Speaker #4: The 40 milligram and the 80 milligram doses will be evaluated in a randomized, placebo-controlled segment of Phase 2. At these higher doses, we will be evaluating the utility of a proactive approach in which glucocorticoid replacement and Atumelenet will be initiated at the same time.

Alan Krasner: At these higher doses, we will be evaluating the utility of a proactive approach in which glucocorticoid replacement and atumelnant will be initiated at the same time. Based on the results of the Phase 2 part of the study, an atumelnant dose and glucocorticoid replacement paradigm will be selected for the Phase 3 part. The Phase 3 part is powered to show a statistically significant difference in 24-hour urine free cortisol output between the active treatment arm compared to the placebo arm. An open-label extension or OLE long-term treatment segment is also included in the study. Overall, the EQUILIBRIUM-ADCS study is designed for efficient and comprehensive assessment of the safety and efficacy of atumelnant in the treatment of ADCS, a disease which historically has been among the most difficult to treat medically.

Speaker #4: Based on the results of the Phase 2 part of the study, an Atumelenet dose and glucocorticoid replacement paradigm will be selected for the Phase 3 part.

Speaker #4: The phase three part is powered to show a statistically significant difference in 24-hour urine-free cortisol output between the active treatment arm compared to the placebo arm.

Speaker #4: An open-label extension or OLE, long-term treatment segment, is also included in the study. Overall, the equilibrium ADCS study is designed for efficient and comprehensive assessment of the safety and efficacy of Atumelenet in the treatment of ADCS.

Speaker #4: A disease which historically has been among the most difficult to treat medically. We believe moving the century-old treatment paradigm forward is long overdue for these patients.

Alan Krasner: We believe moving the century-old treatment paradigm forward is long overdue for these patients, and we are excited to get this important study started in the first half of this year. With that, I'll turn it to Toby to walk through our financial results.

Speaker #4: And we are excited to get this important study started in the first half of this year. With that, I'll turn it to Toby to walk through our financial results.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Alan. Turning to slide 14. Our financial results for the fourth quarter 2025 reflect our continued disciplined execution and strategic investment in advancing our pipeline and commercialization of Pelsonify.

Tobin Schilke: Thank you, Alan. Turning to slide 14. Our financial results for Q4 2025 reflect our continued disciplined execution and strategic investment in advancing our pipeline and commercialization of PALSONIFY. In Q4, we recognized $6.2 million in total net revenue, consisting of $5.4 million in net product revenue from the US commercial launch of PALSONIFY and $0.8 million from our licensing agreement with our Japanese partner, SKK. Our total revenue for full year 2025 was $7.7 million. Cost of product revenue in Q4 was $1.1 million. Prior to PALSONIFY's approval in September, manufacturing costs were expensed through R&D at zero cost inventory. To date, we have only distributed zero cost inventory and expect to continue to do so for the next several quarters.

Speaker #1: In the fourth quarter, we recognized $6.2 million in total net revenue, consisting of $5.4 million in net product revenue from the U.S. commercial launch of Pelsonify, and $0.8 million from our licensing agreement with our Japanese partner, SKK.

Speaker #1: Our total revenue for full year 2025 was $7.7 million. Cost of product revenue in the fourth quarter was $1.1 million. Prior to Pelsonify's approval in September, manufacturing costs were expensed through R&D as zero-cost inventory.

Speaker #1: To date, we have only distributed zero-cost inventory and expect to continue to do so for the next several quarters. The cost of product revenue from this quarter relates to the expansion of our commercial manufacturing capacity as well as the distribution and fulfillment costs of Pelsonify.

Tobin Schilke: The cost of product revenue from this quarter relates to the expansion of our commercial manufacturing capacity as well as the distribution and fulfillment costs of PALSONIFY. Our research and development expenses for Q4 were $85.1 million compared to $90.5 million in Q3. The decrease is a result of startup costs for our ongoing clinical studies that were recognized during Q3. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $53.7 million for Q4. Generally steady compared to the $52.3 million in Q3 since our field force, commercial team, and corporate functions were already in place prior to approval. We used $326.2 million of total net cash for the full year 2025, reflecting continued clinical development and commercialization activities.

Speaker #1: Our research and development expenses for the fourth quarter were $85.1 million. Compared to $90.5 million in the third quarter. The decrease is a result of startup costs for our ongoing clinical studies that were recognized during the third quarter.

Speaker #1: Selling, general, and administrative expenses were $53.7 million for the fourth quarter, generally steady compared to the $52.3 million in the third quarter, since our field force, commercial team, and corporate functions were already in place prior to approval.

Speaker #1: We used $326.2 million of total net cash for the full year 2025. Reflecting continued clinical development and commercialization activities. This result was favorable relative to our guidance range of $340 to $370 million primarily due to working capital timing and a modest increase in cash flows from employee option proceeds during the fourth quarter.

Tobin Schilke: This result was favorable relative to our guidance range of $340 to $370 million, primarily due to working capital timing and a modest increase in cash flows from employee option proceeds during Q4. We ended 2025 with over $1 billion in cash equivalents, and investments. This does not include the net proceeds of $380 million from our January 2026 public offering. Immediately after our January 2026 public offering, our cash equivalents, and investments totaled approximately $1.4 billion. As of 13 February 2026, we had approximately 104.7 million shares of common stock outstanding. On a fully diluted basis, we had 121 million shares outstanding.

Speaker #1: We ended 2025 with over $1 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments. This does not include the net proceeds of $380 million from our January 2026 public offering.

Speaker #1: Immediately after our January 2026 public offering, our cash, cash equivalents, and investments totaled approximately $1.4 billion. As of February 13th, 2026, we had approximately $104.7 million shares of Common Stock Outstanding.

Speaker #1: On a fully diluted basis, we had $121 million shares outstanding. This includes our outstanding options, unvested restricted stock units, and shares expected to be purchased under our employee stock purchase plan.

Tobin Schilke: This includes our outstanding options, unvested restricted stock units, and shares expected to be purchased under our employee stock purchase plan. Moving to slide 15. For 2026, we expect GAAP operating expenses to be between $600 and $650 million. We expect non-GAAP operating expenses, which exclude cost of revenue, stock-based compensation, depreciation, and amortization, to be between $480 and $520 million. The anticipated increase in operating expenses relative to 2025 reflects the ongoing investment in the recently initiated clinical trials as well as the inclusion of a full year of commercialization activities supporting PALSONIFY. Based on our current operating plans and cash position, we believe that existing cash and investments will be sufficient to fund our operations into 2030.

Speaker #1: Moving to slide 15. For 2026, we expect gap operating expenses to be between $600 and $650 million. We expect non-gap operating expenses, which exclude cost of revenue, stock-based compensation, depreciation and amortization, to be between $480 and $520 million.

Speaker #1: We anticipated increase in operating expenses relative to 2025 reflects the ongoing investment in the recently initiated clinical trials, as well as the inclusion of a full year of commercialization activities supporting Pelsonify.

Speaker #1: Based on our current operating plans and cash position, we believe that existing cash and investments will be sufficient to fund our operations into 2030.

Speaker #1: This provides us with significant runway to execute on the commercialization of Pelsonify pivotal readouts for the ongoing clinical trials in carcinoid syndrome, adult CAH, pediatric CAH, and ADCS, and to achieve proof of concept for 9682.

Tobin Schilke: This provides us with significant runway to execute on the commercialization of PALSONIFY, pivotal readouts for the ongoing clinical trials in carcinoid syndrome, adult CAH, pediatric CAH, and ADCS, and to achieve proof of concept for 9682. I'll now turn the call back to Scott for some closing remarks.

Speaker #1: I'll now turn the call back to Scott for some closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Toby. To wrap up, Crinetics is well positioned for an exceptional 2026. We're simultaneously executing across our entire portfolio. We're driving the US launch of Pelsonify while actively advancing our global regulatory path.

Alan Krasner: Thank you, Toby. To wrap up, Crinetics is well positioned for an exceptional 2026. We're simultaneously executing across our entire portfolio. We're driving the US launch of PALSONIFY while actively advancing our global regulatory path. On that front, we're pleased to announce that today we received a positive CHMP opinion for PALSONIFY in the treatment of acromegaly, a milestone that reflects both the strength of our data and the potential benefit for patients in the EU.

Scott Struthers: Thank you, Toby. To wrap up, Crinetics is well positioned for an exceptional 2026. We're simultaneously executing across our entire portfolio. We're driving the US launch of PALSONIFY while actively advancing our global regulatory path. On that front, we're pleased to announce that today we received a positive CHMP opinion for PALSONIFY in the treatment of acromegaly, a milestone that reflects both the strength of our data and the potential benefit for patients in the EU.

Speaker #2: On that front, we're pleased to announce that today we received a positive CHMP opinion of our Pelsonify in the treatment of acromegaly. A milestone that reflects both the strength of our data and the potential benefit for patients in the EU.

Speaker #2: In addition, we continue advancing clinical trials of Peltusetine, Atumelanant, and our novel non-peptide drug conjugate, CRN9682, across multiple endocrinology and oncology indications. Finally, in discovery, we're rapidly advancing our early-stage assets to fuel the next wave of growth.

Scott Struthers: In addition, we continue advancing clinical trials of paltusotine, atumelnant, and our novel nonpeptide drug conjugate, CRN09682, across multiple endocrinology and oncology indications. Finally, in discovery, we're rapidly advancing our early-stage assets to fuel the next wave of growth. We remain committed as ever to transforming the lives of people with endocrine diseases and creating long-term sustainable value for all of our stakeholders. Finally, I'd like to say that 2025 was a great year. Thank you to everyone who helped us achieve our most substantial year yet. With that, I'll turn it back to the operator to begin the Q&A. Operator?

Speaker #2: We remain committed as ever to transforming the lives of people with endocrine diseases and creating long-term, sustainable value for all of our stakeholders. Finally, I'd like to say that 2025 was a great year.

Speaker #2: Thank you to everyone who helped us achieve our most substantial year yet. With that, I'll turn it back to the operator to begin Q&A.

Speaker #2: Operator?

Speaker #3: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star, followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, followed by 2.

Operator: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press Star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press Star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. First question comes from Maxwell Skor with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: When preparing to ask a question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. First question comes from Maxwell Spore with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Great. Thank you very much for taking my question. And congrats on all the progress. So now that you've outlined the phase two, three design today, were there any key learnings from the Lancet GRACE data or the FDA's RELA Corolland CRL that informed how you're thinking about clinically meaningful endpoints or just overall study structure?

Maxwell Skor: Great. Thank you very much for taking my question, and congrats on all the progress. Now that you've outlined the Phase 2/3 design today, were there any key learnings from the Lancet Grace data or the FDA's relacorilant CRL that informed how you're thinking about clinically meaningful endpoints or just overall study structure? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Matt. I'll let Alan Alex Alan handle that question. Thank you.

Scott Struthers: Thanks, Matt. I'll let Alan, Alex, Alan handle that question. Thank you.

Speaker #5: Well, actually, so the basic structure of a Cushing's disease study is well presented in the primary endpoint, for example, is known to be normalization of urine-free cortisol for drugs in which you can measure cortisol as the biochemical marker for Cushing's disease activity.

Alan Krasner: Oh, well, you know, actually, so the basic structure of a Cushing's disease study is well precedented. The primary endpoint, for example, is known to be normalization of urine-free cortisol for drugs in which you can measure cortisol as a, as the biochemical marker for Cushing's disease activity. relacorilant and other glucocorticoid receptor antagonists actually prevent endocrinologists from using cortisol as a marker of activity because they block the glucocorticoid receptor and result in compensatory rises in cortisol. It's a different metric, I would have to say. In the case of the glucocorticoid receptor antagonist, you have to use sort of downstream surrogates, like measuring the improvement in glycemia that can be seen when you treat Cushing's.

Speaker #5: RELA Corolland and other glucocorticoid receptor antagonists actually prevent endocrinologists from using cortisol as a marker of activity because they block the glucocorticoid receptor and result in compensatory rises in cortisol.

Speaker #5: So it's a different metric, I would have to say, in the case of the glucocorticoid receptor antagonists, you have to use sort of downstream surrogates like measuring the improvement in glycemia that can be seen when you treat Cushing's.

Speaker #5: In our case, I think we can measure both cortisol itself as well as important corollary clinical outcome benefits like improvements in glucose and improvements in blood pressure, etc.

Alan Krasner: In our case, I think we can measure both cortisol itself, as well as important corollary clinical outcome benefits, like improvements in glucose and improvements in blood pressure, et cetera.

Speaker #4: Great. Thank you.

Maxwell Skor: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Good afternoon, team. Congrats on the equilibrium study initiating and the very innovative design. Just wanted to ask a question on Pelsonify. I would love to maybe get color around how maybe starting scripts shaped up into GnR in February and if you saw any trends—just trends going from December to the beginning of the year.

Yasmeen Rahimi: Good afternoon, team. Congrats on the EQUILIBRIUM study initiating and the very innovative design. Just wanted to ask a question on PALSONIFY. I would love to maybe get color around how maybe starting scripts shaped up into January and February, and if you saw any trends, just as trends going from December to the beginning of the year, and I'll jump back into the queue.

Speaker #6: And I'll jump back into the queue.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Yaz. Look, I'm super pleased with the launch of Pelsonify. I'm particularly pleased by the stories we're hearing back from prescribers and patients and the real-world experiences that are starting to accumulate.

Scott Struthers: Yeah, thanks, Yas. Look, I'm super pleased with the launch of PALSONIFY. I'm particularly pleased by the stories we're hearing back from prescribers and patients and the real-world experiences that are starting to accumulate. I think you'll start hearing about those experiences now that people are out there starting to think about case series and other types of reports, and I look forward to that, you know, throughout the year and in the coming years, actually. I don't really want to get into quantitative comments on trends for the quarter. You know, it's still early days, and we have a lot of work to do, but generally, I'm very pleased that patients are starting to benefit from the hard work we've put into this for the last many, many years.

Speaker #4: And I think you'll start hearing about those experiences now that people are out there starting to think about case series and other types of reports.

Speaker #4: And I'd look forward to that throughout the year and in the coming years, actually. So I don't really want to get into quantitative comments on trends for the quarter.

Speaker #4: It's still early days, and we have a lot of work to do. But generally, I'm very pleased that patients are starting to benefit from the hard work we've put into this for the last many, many years.

Speaker #6: Yes, Yasmeen. We are very pleased because our strategy is really resonating. Efficacy first is an important message for us. And what we are hearing back from physicians and patients is that particularly the fast onset of action and the symptom control are resonating.

Isabel Kalofonos: Yes, thank you very much. We are very pleased because our strategy is really resonating. Efficacy first is an important message for us, and what we are hearing back from physicians and patients is that particularly the pattern set of action and the symptom controls are resonating. The fact that it works in 2 to 4 weeks is really allowing the physicians to have an early positive experience as well as the patients. We are focusing on execution across the board, activating the patients, activating the physicians, and continuing to engage with payers successfully. Thank you.

Speaker #6: The fact that it works in two, four weeks is really allowing the physicians to have an early positive experience as well as the patients.

Speaker #6: So, we are focusing on execution across the board: activating the patients, activating the physicians, and continuing to engage with payers successfully. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you. We now turn to Alex Thompson with Stifel. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Yasmeen Rahimi: Thank you.

Operator: We now turn to Alex Thompson with Stifel. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Hey, great. Thanks for taking our question, and congrats on the quarter as well. Maybe as a follow-up here, could you comment as to whether you think sort of this 200 enrollment form that you recorded in Q4 is a reasonable run rate moving forward?

Alex Thompson: Hey, great. Thanks for taking our question, and congrats on the quarter as well. Maybe as a follow-up here, could you comment as to whether you think sort of this 200 enrollment form that you recorded in Q4 is a reasonable run rate moving forward? Is that bullish, or are you seeing consistency with what you saw in Q4? If you're not able to sort of answer that, can you talk about the sort of time from enrollment form to commercial therapy? Thanks.

Speaker #2: Is that bullous? Or are you seeing consistency with what you saw in four Q? And if you're not able to sort of answer that, can you talk about the sort of time from enrollment form to commercial therapy?

Speaker #2: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah. It's going to be mine on two, respond.

Scott Struthers: Yeah. Toby, why don't you respond?

Speaker #5: Yeah. I think it's premature to sort of comment on extrapolating that 200 enrollment form. We feel very pleased about that number. And just because there's a lot of headwinds and tailwinds that you have, you have at the beginning of a launch, there's some patients who are were on our open label extension program who came on to commercial supply.

Tobin Schilke: Yeah, I think, you know, it's premature to sort of comment on extrapolating that 200 enrollment form. Just because there's a lot of headwinds and tailwinds that you have, at the beginning of a launch, there's some patients who were on our open label extension program who came on to commercial supply, but then you have kind of continued momentum through increased field interactions going forward. I think on your second question, you talked about the time it takes from the QuickStart patient program as well.

Speaker #5: But then you have kind of continued momentum through increased field interactions going forward. I think on your second question, you talked about the time it takes from the Quick Start patient program as well.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I guess from when you receive your enrollment form to when you're getting on reimbursed therapy or on Quick Start, how long is that?

Alex Thompson: Yeah. I guess, you know, from when you receive your enrollment form to when you're getting on reimbursed therapy or on QuickStart, how long is that?

Speaker #5: Yeah. We haven't really guided to that. What we're really pleased to say right now is that at the initial point of kind of measurement, about 50% of patients are reimbursed for commercial or Medicare/Medicaid.

Tobin Schilke: Yeah. You know, we haven't really guided to that. What we're really pleased to say right now is that at the initial point of kind of measurement, about 50% of the patients are reimbursed for commercial or Medicare, Medicaid, and the other 50% go on to that QuickStart program. We have a few touch points along that way, because it's relatively early days in the launch, it's difficult to kind of predict how long those patients will come off QuickStart and be on reimbursed care. The first bottle they get is for 30 days, and then we have check-ins every 15 days thereafter.

Speaker #5: And the other 50% go on to that quick start program. We have a few touch points along that way. And because it's relatively early days in the launch, it's difficult to kind of predict how long those patients will come off quick start and be on reimbursed care.

Speaker #5: But the first bottle they get is for 30 days. And then we have check-ins every 15 days thereafter.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Alex Thompson: Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Tyler Van Buren with TD Cohen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Tyler Van Buren with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Congrats on the progress. And I enjoyed the prepared remarks on ADCS. Just maybe I could fit in one more on the launch.

Tyler Van Buren: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Congrats on the progress, and enjoyed the prepared remarks on ADCS. Just maybe I could fit in one more on the launch, but a little bit less, so on the near term, a little bit more on the medium term. Just over the course of the year, what do you expect the cadence to look like? Is it gonna be lumpy because it's kind of an orphan launch and, or is it gonna be more linear or exponential as we exit the year? Curious to get your thoughts on that. A second, since you mentioned the zero cost inventory, can you tell us what level of sales, that inventory equates to roughly?

Speaker #7: But a little bit less so on the near term, a little bit more on the medium term. Just over the course of the year, what do you expect the cadence to look like?

Speaker #7: Is it going to be lumpy because it's kind of an orphan launch? And or is it going to be more linear or exponential as we exit the year?

Speaker #7: Curious to get your thoughts on that. And a second, since you mentioned the zero-cost inventory, can you tell us what level of sales that inventory equates to roughly?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Tyler. So I did a lot of biophysics earlier in my career. And we were trying to fit curves to data points. And I can say I suspect it'll be lumpy.

Tobin Schilke: Yeah. Thanks, Tyler. You know, I did a lot of biophysics earlier in my career, and we were trying to fit curves to data points. I can say I suspect it'll be lumpy, but I don't think there's enough data to start fitting an exponential or a linear curve to this yet. You know, the team's out there every day. We're getting great uptake around the country with a broad set of prescribers, and they're getting more comfortable with it. We've got other things coming up. It's, you know, we had a pretty good snowstorm this last week, and that showed up a little bit. I think it'll be lumpy and, you know, we're experimentalists at this point, not theoreticians. You wanna comment a little more, Isabel?

Speaker #4: But I don't think there's enough data to start fitting an exponential or a linear curve to this yet. The team's out there every day.

Speaker #4: We're getting great uptake around the country with a broad set of prescribers. And they're getting more comfortable with it. But we've got other things coming up.

Speaker #4: We had a pretty good snowstorm this last week. And that showed up a little bit. So I think it'll be lumpy. And we're experimentalists at this point, not theoreticians.

Speaker #4: You want to comment a little more? Isabel?

Speaker #6: Yes. We already on target for our goal to become the number one acromegaly treatment in the future. And we are continued in our execution that we had described before.

Isabel Kalofonos: Yes. You know, we are on target for our goal to become the number one acromegaly treatment in the future. We are continuous in our execution that we had described before. First, we are focusing on the switching of the market and nine patients. We wanna focus on expanding the market. We don't only want to have patients on Palsonify, but we wanna help transform care and elevate care as a premier endocrinology company that we wanna be. We wanna be the partner of choice. Many patients have lost hope and are not on treatment that we think we can bring them back.

Speaker #6: First, we are focusing on the switching of the market and naive patients. Then we want to focus on expanding the market. We don't only want to have patients on 575, but we want to have transformed care and elevate care as a premier endocrinology company that we want to be.

Speaker #6: We want to be the partner of choice. So so many patients have lost hope and are not on treatment that we think we can bring them back.

Speaker #6: So as physicians and patients gain experience with our drug, and given that the drug is delivering even better—even better than in the clinical trials—in the real world, we expect that we'll be able to continue to expand the marketplace.

Isabel Kalofonos: As physicians and patients gain experience with our drug, and given that the drug is delivering better, even better in the clinical trials in the real world, we expect that we'll be able to continue to expand the marketplace.

Speaker #4: And maybe to your second question, Tyler, on the cost of product revenue. I'm so glad you asked that question. It always makes the CFO happy.

Tobin Schilke: Maybe to your second question, Tyler, on the cost of product revenue. You know, I'm so glad you asked that question. It always makes the CFO happy. We have a little bit additional details on our Form 10-K that we just recently filed. As you note in our income statement, we have about $1 million of cost of product revenue noted in Q4. In page 72 and thereafter on our Form 10-K, we broke that down a little bit more, we said that there was about $826,000 related to manufacturing readiness and a second slot supplier qualification, another $250,000 of that $1 million allocated towards sort of packaging, distribution, fulfillment.

Speaker #4: And we had a little bit additional details on our Form 10-K that we just recently filed. So as you can note in our income statement, we have about a million dollars of cost of product revenue noted in fourth quarter.

Speaker #4: And in the page 72, and thereafter on our Form 10-K, we broke that down a little bit more. And we said that there was about $826,000 related to manufacturing readiness and a second slot supplier qualification.

Speaker #4: And then, another $250,000 of that $1 million was allocated towards sort of packaging, distribution, and fulfillment. We noted also that there was less than $100,000 related to the zero-cost inventory that I referred to in my prepared remarks.

Tobin Schilke: We noted also that there was less than $100,000 related to the zero cost inventory that I referred to in my prepared remarks. Looking forward, we kind of expect cost of product revenue. If you were to do apples to apples, you would see of that $5.4 million, you would see about that $250,000 and that less than $100,000 of being cost of product revenue.

Speaker #4: So looking forward, we kind of expect cost of product revenue, if you were to do apples to apples, you would see of that 5.4 million dollars, you would see about that $250,000 in that less than $100,000 of being cost of product revenue.

Speaker #4: That's awesome. Thank you.

Tyler Van Buren: That's awesome. Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Gavin Clark Gartner with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Gavin Clark-Gartner with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Hey, this is Yashan for Gavin. Thank you for taking the question. Just a quick one on Pelsonify. We were just wondering how payer dynamics are looking so far and specifically if you're noticing any significant pushback on the parasite or new cadence in terms of step edits to get on Pelsonify.

[Analyst] (Evercore ISI): Hey, this is Yash on for Gavin. Thank you for taking the question. Just a quick one on PALSONIFY. We were just wondering how payer dynamics are looking so far, and specifically if you're noticing any significant pushback on the payer side or new cadence in terms of step edits to get on PALSONIFY. Thanks.

Yash Kamdar: Hey, this is Yash on for Gavin. Thank you for taking the question. Just a quick one on PALSONIFY. We were just wondering how payer dynamics are looking so far, and specifically if you're noticing any significant pushback on the payer side or new cadence in terms of step edits to get on PALSONIFY. Thanks.

Speaker #8: Thanks.

Speaker #9: Thank you. So we are very pleased with how market access is progressing. And we don't see real barriers to treatment. So that's very positive.

Isabel Kalofonos: Thank you. We are very pleased with how market access is progressing, and we don't see real barriers to treatment. That's very positive. We have most of our coverage already based on our labels. All our prior authorizations are proceeding, and we're proceeding well with medical exceptions as well. We continue to monitor the marketplace and engage with the payers. If we ever have a step edit, we move very quickly from the coverage of treatment to a clinical review, and that had moved very fast in the process. So far as we announced in Q4, 50% of the claims have been reimbursed, and 60% of them moved into QuickStart. We remain committed to move that QuickStart in less than the average of rare diseases, less than 57 days.

Speaker #9: We have most of our coverage already based on our labels. So our prior authorizations are proceeding. And we are proceeding well with medical exceptions as well.

Speaker #9: So we continue to monitor the marketplace and engage with the payers. And if we ever have a step edit, we move very quickly from the coverage of treatment to a clinical review, and that has moved very fast in the process.

Speaker #9: So so far, as we announced in fourth quarter, 50% of the claims have been reimbursed. And 50% of them move into quick start. And we remain committed to move that quick start in less than the average of rare diseases, less than 57 days.

Speaker #8: Great. Thank you.

[Analyst] (Citizens JMP): Great. Thank you.

Yash Kamdar: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Brian Sconi with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Brian Skorney with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #10: Hi, team. Thanks for the question. This is Lucan for Brian. So on the ADCS study, there's a mention that the phase three endpoints may change based on phase two data.

[Analyst] (Baird): Hi, team. Thanks for the question. This is Luke on for Brian Skorney. On the ADCS study, there's a mention that the phase three endpoints may change based on phase two data. I suppose, is that something that's agreed on in advance with FDA? Can you help us understand what would trigger this change?

Luke Herrmann: Hi, team. Thanks for the question. This is Luke on for Brian Skorney. On the ADCS study, there's a mention that the phase three endpoints may change based on phase two data. I suppose, is that something that's agreed on in advance with FDA? Can you help us understand what would trigger this change?

Speaker #10: I suppose is that something that's agreed on in advance with FDA? And can you help us understand what would trigger this change?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks for the question. I think the main purpose, one of the main purposes of the phase two part is to find the right dose for phase three.

Alan Krasner: Yeah. Thanks for the question. I think one of the main purposes of the phase 2 part is to find the right dose for phase 3. Then in phase 3, it would be a traditional perspective, parallel group, placebo-controlled comparison trial. The primary endpoint is pretty much set by the FDA. That is the percentage of patients who achieve a normal urine free cortisol at the end of treatment. This is a 24-hour urine collection which sort of measures the integrated output of cortisol over that period of time. The hurdle for the study is to show there's a statistically significant increase to proportion of patients who achieve that goal on drug versus placebo. Yes. What we will learn from phase 2 is the dose.

Speaker #4: And then in phase three, it would be a traditional perspective parallel group placebo-controlled comparison trial. The primary endpoint is pretty much set by the FDA.

Speaker #4: And that is the percentage of patients who achieve a normal urine-free cortisol at the end of treatment. This is a 24-hour urine collection, which sort of measures the integrated output of cortisol over that period of time.

Speaker #4: And the hurdle for the study is to show there's a statistically significant increased proportion of patients who achieve that goal on drug versus placebo.

Speaker #4: Yes. What we will learn from phase two is the dose. It is very unlikely we would change that primary endpoint, however, for phase three.

Alan Krasner: It is very unlikely we would change that primary endpoint, however, for phase three.

Speaker #3: Our next question comes from Joe Schwartz with Lee Rink Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Our next question comes from Joe Schwartz with Leerink Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #11: Hello, Crinetizens. Thanks for the update. I was actually curious on 9682. And wondering if you can give us any insight into how you're selecting patients for the bravest trial?

Joe Schwartz: Hello, Cornetizens. Thanks for the update. I was actually curious on CRN09682 and wondering if you can give us any insight into how you're selecting patients for the BRAVESST2 trial. Do you have a working hypothesis for particular biology that are more likely to respond to it based on the turnover of their disease or their SST receptor density? Have you detected any signals in preclinical data, and how do you hope to put it relative to current options? Thanks.

Speaker #11: Are you do you have a working hypothesis for particular biologies that are more likely to respond to it based on the turnover of their disease or their SST receptor density?

Speaker #11: Have you detected any signals in preclinical data? And how do you hope to relative to current options? Thanks.

Speaker #12: Thanks, Joe. I got to say 9682 is currently the apple of my eye. The compound is it's something we worked so hard on, both from a concept and from a development and an optimization point of view.

Scott Struthers: Thanks, Joe. I gotta say CRN09682 is currently the apple of my eye. The compound is, you know, it's something we worked so hard on, both from a concept and from, you know, a development and an optimization point of view. The patient selection is really very simple. We have a basket study with all kinds of different patients with somatostatin 2 receptor expressing tumors. The core criteria is they have to have, on a somatostatin PET scan, a higher density in tumors compared to the liver. They have to have progressive disease or, you know, why would they come into a clinical trial like this? We're very pleased that the reception by the community has been strong and the screening queue of patients is always there. We're just working our way through it.

Speaker #12: And the patient selection is really very simple. We have a basket study with all kinds of different patients with somatostatin 2 receptor expressing tumors.

Speaker #12: The core criteria is they have to have, on a somatostatin PET scan, higher density in tumors compared to the liver. And they have to have progressive disease, or why would they come into a clinical trial like this?

Speaker #12: And we're very pleased that the reception by the community has been strong and the screening queue of patients is always there. So we're just working our way through it.

Speaker #12: In terms of preclinical models, we showed some fabulous data with essentially lung cells, small cell lung cells, small cell lung carcinomas, which are a high-grade lung neuroendocrine tumor.

Scott Struthers: In terms of preclinical models, you know, we showed some fabulous data with essentially small cell lung carcinomas, which are a high-grade lung neuroendocrine tumor. We've done some other tumor models. You know, so many people have cured tumors in mice that we're now at the real point where we're looking at these different tumors in humans. The reason we designed this study is, in such a broad way, we want to make sure we capture the different populations of patients who can benefit.

Speaker #12: And we've done some other tumor models but so many people have cured tumors in mice that we're now at the real point where we're looking at these different tumors in humans.

Speaker #12: And the reason we designed this study is in such a broad way is we want to make sure we capture the different populations of patients who can benefit.

Speaker #12: And as a reminder, it's not just neuroendocrine tumors, of which it'll range from relatively slow-growing neuroendocrine tumors, grade 1 or grade 2, up to more aggressive, grade 2 or grade 3.

Scott Struthers: As a reminder, it's not just neuroendocrine tumors, of which, you know, it'll range from relatively slow-growing neuroendocrine tumors, grade one or grade two, up to more aggressive grade two or three, and even up to neuroendocrine carcinomas or like small cell lung is a very aggressive point of view. We'll also be looking for patients with meningiomas, which are almost always somatostatin receptor positive and often very difficult to treat. We'll be seeing perhaps some HR-positive breast tumors, head and neck tumors. As we start working our way up the dose escalation, defining the tolerability profile, we may start to see some hints, but what we'll really look for is signals when we get into those expansion cohorts.

Speaker #12: And even up to neuroendocrine carcinomas or small cell lung is a very aggressive point of view. But we'll also be looking for patients with meningiomas, which are almost always somatostatin receptor positive and often very difficult to treat.

Speaker #12: We'll be seeing perhaps some HR positive breast tumors, head and neck tumors, and as we start working our way up the dose escalation to finding the tolerability profile, we may start to see some hints.

Speaker #12: But what we're really looking for is signals when we get into those expansion cohorts. And it's, as you saw from the trial design, it really allows us to bring in any type of patient with SST2 positive tumors.

Scott Struthers: It's, as you saw from the trial design, it really allows us to bring in any type of patient with SSTR2 positive tumors.

Speaker #11: Thank you.

Joe Schwartz: Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to John Walden with Citizens. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Jonathan Wolleben with Citizens JMP. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #10: Hey, thanks for taking the question. A few on Equilibrium. Wondering how you're thinking about disclosure data from the phase two before the phase three.

Isabel Kalofonos: Hey. Thanks for taking the question. A few on EQUILIBRIUM

Jon Wolleben: Hey. Thanks for taking the question. A few on EQUILIBRIUM

[Analyst] (Citizens JMP): ... wondering how you're thinking about disclosure data from the phase 2 before the phase 3, if the same patients are gonna be able to roll over? If you discussed at all with FDA a randomized withdrawal design, and any advantages, disadvantages to it, what you landed on here? Thanks.

Jon Wolleben: ... wondering how you're thinking about disclosure data from the phase 2 before the phase 3, if the same patients are gonna be able to roll over? If you discussed at all with FDA a randomized withdrawal design, and any advantages, disadvantages to it, what you landed on here? Thanks.

Speaker #10: If the same patients are going to be able to roll over. And if you discussed at all with FDA a randomized withdrawal design in any advantage or disadvantages to what you landed on here?

Speaker #10: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks for the question, John. So actually, the phase two part of the ADCS study is a three-month treatment experience. And when they finish that, they would be eligible to roll directly into an open-label extension study, those patients.

Alan Krasner: Okay, thanks for the question, John. Actually, the Phase 2 part of the ADCS study is a 3-month treatment experience, and when they finish that, they would be eligible to roll directly into an open-label extension study, those patients. When we get into Phase 3, the same thing, it will be new patients who would also, when they complete that treatment period, be eligible to roll into the same open-label extension. You know, we have certainly looked the history of development of drugs for Cushing's, and randomized withdrawal has been done in the past. For example, LINC 3 was one of the registrational trials for osilodrostat.

Speaker #4: When we get into phase three, the same thing, it will be new patients who would also when they complete that treatment period be eligible to roll into the same open-label extension.

Speaker #4: We have certainly looked at the history of development of drugs for Cushing's. And randomized withdrawal has been done in the past. For example, Link-3 was one of the registrational trials for oselodistat.

Speaker #4: A lot of methodologic problems with that kind of study design. And I think most in the regulatory community would consider what we're planning here, a prospective parallel group trial placebo-controlled as sort of the most definitive demonstration of drug safety and efficacy.

Alan Krasner: A lot of methodologic problems with that kind of study design. I think, you know, most in the regulatory community would consider what we're planning here, a prospective parallel group trial, placebo-controlled, as sort of the most definitive demonstration of drug safety and efficacy. There are carryover effects to worry about in randomized withdrawal designs that you do not have to confront here, and I think this is just a cleaner study.

Speaker #4: There are carryover effects to worry about in randomized withdrawal designs that you do not have to confront here. And I think this is just a cleaner study.

Speaker #10: Okay. And then when you have the phase two results, will we be learning just what dose you'll be moving forward with, or will you guys be giving us—will you be giving out data on the endpoints as well?

[Analyst] (Citizens JMP): Okay. When you have the Phase 2 results, will we be learning just what dose you'll be moving forward, or will you be giving out data on the endpoints as well?

Jon Wolleben: Okay. When you have the Phase 2 results, will we be learning just what dose you'll be moving forward, or will you be giving out data on the endpoints as well?

Speaker #4: Well, I think it's a little early to speak too specific. But I do think that we'll want to communicate phase two results at appropriate scientific conference.

Scott Struthers: Well, I think it's a little early to be too specific, but I do think that we'll want to communicate phase 2 results at an appropriate scientific conference. You know, it's important for the community to realize the experiences we're seeing in phase 2 to help motivate investigators and patients to sign up for phase 3.

Speaker #4: It's important for the community to realize that the experiences we're seeing in Phase Two help motivate investigators and patients to sign up for Phase Three.

Speaker #10: That makes sense. Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Alan.

[Analyst] (Citizens JMP): That makes sense. Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Alan.

Jon Wolleben: That makes sense. Thanks, Scott. Thanks, Alan.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Scott Struthers: Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Katherine de la Russo with Life Sci Capital. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Katherine Dellorusso with LifeSci Capital. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #13: Hi, team. Congrats on the quarter. And thanks for taking the questions. Maybe another one from us on the Bravis study. Just a couple of questions.

Katherine Dellorusso: Hi, team. Congrats on the quarter. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe another one from us on the BRAVESST2 study. Just a couple of questions. I guess if you could comment on what we can expect from an initial data readout here in terms of, you know, metrics and cohorts we can expect to see? Then maybe on the bar for safety, what are your internal benchmarks that you're striving for? I guess, how does that relate to whether or not you pursue a PRRT naive versus experienced patient populations going forward?

Speaker #13: I guess if you could comment on what we can expect from an initial data readout here in terms of metrics and cohorts, we can expect to see?

Speaker #13: And then maybe on the bar for safety, what are your internal benchmarks that you're striving for? And I guess how does that relate to whether or not you pursue a PRRT naive versus experienced patient populations going forward?

Speaker #4: Well, I'll take the last part. And you want to take the first part, Alan? So I don't think PRRT is a prerequisite or really that relevant for 9682.

Scott Struthers: Well, I'll take the last part, and you want to take the first part, Alan? I don't think PRRT is a prerequisite or really that relevant for 9682. PRRT is great, and it demonstrates that, you know, somatostatin targeted therapies are really important in these populations. It's not for everyone, and it's not always easy to get. We're not requiring people to step through it. Anyway, I'm just wanna remind folks that this is a much more democratic therapy than a radiotherapy.

Speaker #4: PRRT is great. And it demonstrates that somatostatin-targeted therapies are really important in these populations. But it's not for everyone. And it's not always easy to get.

Speaker #4: And so we're not requiring people to step through it or anyway, I'm just want to remind folks that this is a much more democratic therapy than a radiotherapy.

Speaker #3: And let me just add, though, that in a phase one oncology trial, traditionally, you would be enrolling patients who've been through other therapies, including things like PRRT in the past.

Alan Krasner: Let me just add, though, that, you know, in a phase 1 oncology trial, traditionally, you would be enrolling patients who've been through other therapies, including things like PRRT in the past. These are patients often who are sort of out of the conventional options at this point in time, but I do agree, though, with time, in theory, this mechanism of action, it could be sort of a non-radioactive PRRT someday, where it is used sort of in an earlier stage of treatment than we would test in a phase 1 trial.

Speaker #3: And these are patients often who are sort of out of the conventional options at this point in time. And but I do agree, though, with time, in theory, this mechanism of action it could be sort of a non-radioactive PRRT someday where it is used sort of in an early at an earlier stage of treatment than we would test in a phase one trial.

Speaker #3: In terms of what we're looking for, we're in a dose escalation phase now in this study. And we are traditionally in an oncology study, what we would stop when we get to a maximally tolerated dose these days, you don't necessarily have to go that far.

Alan Krasner: In terms of what we're looking for, you know, we're in a dose escalation phase now in this study, and we are, you know, traditionally in an oncology study, we would stop when we get to a maximally tolerated dose. These days, you don't necessarily have to go that far. In general, we wanna see the primary sort of endpoint for this part of a study is safety and toleration. We hope this would be fairly well tolerated for all the reasons we've been through, in terms of why this kind of approach might result in, you know, not only an effective, well-targeted therapy, but also a well-tolerated one.

Speaker #3: But in general, we want to see the primary sort of endpoint for this part of a study is safety and toleration. We hope this would be fairly well tolerated for all the reasons we've been through in terms of why this kind of approach might result in not only an effective well-targeted therapy but also a well-tolerated one.

Speaker #3: But of course, we also as part of the clinical care for these patients with sort of advanced cancers, they will also be having regular imaging studies: CT scans or MRI scans to measure the size of their tumors.

Alan Krasner: You know, of course, we also, as part of the clinical care for these patients with sort of advanced cancers, they will also be having regular imaging studies, CT scans or MRI scans, to measure the size of their tumors. We follow formal RECIST criteria to understand if there is stable disease, partial responses, or any, you know, according to the standard RECIST criteria, we would classify this. This is kind of a long-term prospect, though. Many of these tumors are on the slow-growing side, so that kind of response data will take time to evolve over time.

Speaker #3: And we follow a formal resistance criteria to understand if there are stable disease, partial responses, or any according to the standard resistance criteria, we would classify this kind of a long-term prospect, though.

Speaker #3: Many of these tumors are on the slow-growing side. So that kind of response data will take time to evolve over time. But certainly, we hope to have enough information coming out of this dose escalation study to go into the expansion part of the protocol where we would kind of enroll more patients with the most likely to respond tumors, including some of these non-neuro-endocrine tumor SST2-positive kind of tumors that we know of, such as meningioma.

Alan Krasner: Certainly, we hope to have enough information coming out of this dose escalation study to go into the expansion part of the protocol, where we would kind of enroll more patients with the most likely to respond tumors, including some of these non-neuroendocrine tumor SSTR2-positive kind of tumors that we know of, such as meningioma. I hope that's helpful.

Speaker #3: I hope that's helpful.

Speaker #13: Yep. Absolutely. Thank you.

[Analyst] (Citizens JMP): Yep, absolutely. Thank you.

Jon Wolleben: Yep, absolutely. Thank you.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Dennis Ding with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Dennis Ding with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #14: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. I had two on the NDC. Number one, what's the big picture strategy here? And I'm curious if you plan to be a major player in oncology.

Dennis Ding: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. I have two on the NDC. Number 1, what's the big picture strategy here? I'm curious if you plan to be a major player in oncology. Like, if you see good activity in HR+ breast cancer or small cell, is that an area you would move aggressively into? Is your priority to remain mainly in endocrinology and in endocrine-related tumors? Number 2, for the phase 1, I'm assuming you'll get a lot of nets. How does SSTR2 expression change in the second and third line? If there's any difference in patients who have had experience with Lutathera versus those who didn't. If you can comment on the ORR for chemo in this late line setting, that, you know, we should be thinking about once you go into dose expansion, that'd be helpful.

Speaker #14: If you see good activity in HR-positive breast cancer or small cell, is that an area you would move aggressively into? Or is your priority to remain mainly in endocrinology and an endocrine-related tumors?

Speaker #14: And then number two, for the phase one, I'm assuming you'll get a lot of nets. So how does SST2 expression change in the second and third line?

Speaker #14: And if there's any difference in patients who have had experience with Lutathera versus those who didn't? And if you can comment on the ORR for chemo in this late-line setting that we should be thinking about once you go into dose expansion.

Speaker #14: That'd be helpful. Thank you.

Dennis Ding: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Dennis. Yeah. So this is Scott. I'll take the big picture and then hand it off to Alan for more about expression. So I'm really interested in this whole notion of using small-molecule targeting for a variety of payloads and I think it offers just some core benefits compared to antibody targeting or peptide targeting, for example.

Scott Struthers: Thanks, Dennis. Yeah. This is Scott. I'll take the big picture and then hand it off to Alan for more about the expression. I'm really interested in this whole notion of using small molecule targeting for a variety of payloads. I think it offers just some core benefits compared to antibody targeting or peptide targeting, for example. As you know, with an antibody targeting, you're always going to be limited to a relatively long time in circulation. You're going to be limited by the types of epitopes you can address. You're gonna be limited by bioconjugation reactions to the linkers and payloads that are suitable. All that goes away when you just stay with small molecule chemistry like nine six eight two.

Speaker #4: As you know, with an antibody targeting, you're always going to be limited to a relatively long time in circulation. You're going to be limited by the types of epitopes you can address.

Speaker #4: You're going to be limited by bioconjugation reactions to the linkers and payloads that are suitable. And all that goes away when you just stay with small-molecule chemistry like 9682.

Speaker #4: And we first pioneered this idea in the radiotherapy space and spun out Radionetics, which is doing very well. Thank you very much. And now we're continuing in the non-peptide space for first neuroendocrine tumors, as you say.

Scott Struthers: We first pioneered this idea in the radiotherapy space and spun out Radionetics, which is doing very well, thank you very much. Now we're continuing in the nonpeptide space for first neuroendocrine tumors, as you say. I do think because of the way the radio imaging is used and radiotherapies are used, the bulk of those patients in routine care are neuroendocrine tumor patients, but that's growing pretty rapidly outside of that. The general strategy is to see where the science and the medicine takes us. I expect this to take us outside of our core neuroendocrine tumors, which is 100% synergistic with the carcinoid syndrome program.

Speaker #4: I do think because of the way the radioimaging is used and radiotherapies are used, the bulk of those patients in routine care are neuroendocrine tumor patients.

Speaker #4: But that's growing pretty rapidly outside of that. And the general strategy is to see where the science and the medicine takes us. So it's I expect this to take us outside of our core neuroendocrine tumors, which is 100% synergistic with the carcinoid syndrome program.

Speaker #4: And as I think about it in discovery, we are just beginning with this platform. So I can imagine additional types of payloads maybe targeting SST2 first because it may be that this payload may not be for all SST2-expressing tumors.

Scott Struthers: As I think about it in discovery, we are just beginning with this platform, so I can imagine additional types of payloads, maybe targeting SST-2 first, 'cause it may be that this payload may not be for all SST-2 expressing tumors. We're also exploring other types of targeting because GPCRs that recognize these peptide hormones are often very difficult to target with antibodies. We're looking at various different types of payloads. What else can we do? It's a blue sky area of research, and I'm very excited to see where it goes. I talked for a little while, Alan, but maybe you wanna address about line of therapy and expression.

Speaker #4: But we're also exploring other types of targeting because GPCRs that recognize these peptide hormones are often very difficult to target with antibodies. And we're looking at various different types of payloads.

Speaker #4: What else can we do? So it's a blue sky area of research, and I'm very excited to see where it goes. So I talked for a little while, Alan, but maybe you want to address about line of therapy and expression and things like that.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Yeah. It's a really good question. Is there any change in SST2 receptor expression over time as patients receive various treatments? And what I can say is one of the eligibility criteria for this phase one study is positive SST2 receptor expression as documented on clinical receptor nuclear medicine imaging studies that go to take kind of scans.

Alan Krasner: Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a really good question. Is there any change in SST-2 receptor expression over time as patients receive various treatments? What I can say is one of the eligibility criteria for this phase 1 study is positive SST-2 receptor expression as documented on clinical receptor nuclear medicine imaging studies, that DOTATATE kind of scan.

Speaker #3: So we know.

Speaker #4: As part of the screening, not just historical.

Scott Struthers: As part of the screening, not just historical.

Speaker #3: Correct. So patients have to have known SST2-expressing tumor at the time of enrollment into our study. So we know they're still there in our patients.

Alan Krasner: Correct. Patients have to have known SSTR2 expressing tumor at the time of enrollment into our study. We know they're still there in our patients. I think as a general rule of thumb, it may depend on what kind of tumor you're talking about, but certainly the well-differentiated neuroendocrine tumors, generally, the SSTR2 receptors hang around for a long time.

Speaker #3: I think as a general rule of thumb, it may depend on what kind of tumor you're talking about. But certainly, the well-differentiated neuroendocrine tumors generally the SST2 receptors hang around for a long time.

Speaker #14: Thanks. And then.

Dennis Ding: Thanks.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Catherine Novak with Jones. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Catherine Novack with Jones. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #15: Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Thinking about CAH, now that prescribers have had about a year of experience with Crinetics, are you hearing anything from them about reimbursement or price point?

Catherine Novack: Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Thinking about CAH, you know, now that prescribers have had about a year of experience with Cornessity, are you hearing anything from them about reimbursement or price point? Do you anticipate having similar pricing power when it comes to your launch in CAH? Similarly, do you anticipate having different price points for pediatrics and adults? I just wondering what we can learn from their launch so far.

Speaker #15: And do you anticipate having similar pricing power when it comes to your launch in CAH? And similarly, do you anticipate having different price points for pediatrics and adults?

Speaker #15: Just wondering what we can learn from their launch so far.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Catherine. I think it's premature to really think about pricing at this point in the game. But we're definitely doing our work to make sure we illustrate the full potential value of the molecule in our clinical program.

Scott Struthers: Yeah. Thanks, Katherine. I think it's premature to really think about pricing at this point in the game. We're definitely doing our work to make sure we illustrate the full potential value of the molecule in our clinical program. What I can take away from the Cornessity launch is it's the first new drug for CAH since glucocorticoids, and it's been doing quite well, and I think there's a hunger for new agents. I think that, you know, based on the pharmacology we've seen so far, atumelnant will be able to do things that no other agents can do for these patients.

Speaker #4: What I can take away from the Crinetics launch is it's the first new drug for CAH since glucocorticoids. And it's been doing quite well.

Speaker #4: And I think there's a hunger for new agents. And I think that based on the pharmacology we've seen so far, Atumelnet will be able to do things that no other agents can do for these patients.

Speaker #4: So I'm excited to expand this in the open-label extension we have going now where we should have 20-something patients be able to talk about them at some point, not too distant future.

Scott Struthers: I'm excited to expand this in the open-label extension we have going now, where we should have, you know, 20 something patients be able to talk about them at some point in the not too distant future. I'm got great enthusiasm from the investigators I've met and the patient communities I've met for our Phase 3 program in CAH. I really look forward to being able to complete that enrollment and start talking about data as soon as we can.

Speaker #4: But

Speaker #1: It . Also , I'm . I'm got great enthusiasm from the investigators I've met and the patient communities I've met for our phase three program in and I really look forward to being able to complete that enrollment and start talking about data as soon as we can

Speaker #2: Fantastic , Scott . Thank you

Isabel Kalofonos: Fantastic, Scott. Thank you.

Catherine Novack: Fantastic, Scott. Thank you.

Speaker #1: You know , we we have some more juice to squeeze from that orange

Operator: We now-

Scott Struthers: Thanks. You know, we have some more juice to squeeze from that orange.

Speaker #3: We now turn to Douglas with H.C. Wainwright . Your line is open . Please go ahead

Operator: We now turn to Douglas Tsao with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Hi . Thank you very much . Thanks for taking the questions . Maybe Isabella , just as a start , I think you indicated that about 50% of patients are initiating therapy on the quick Start program .

Douglas Tsao: Thank you very much. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe Isabel, just as a start, I think you indicated that about 50% of patients are initiating therapy on the QuickStart program. I'm just curious if you have any insight or perspective on how we should think about how that might evolve over the next year or a couple of years? You know, would you anticipate we sort of stay at that level, or should it trend down? I have a follow-up on CRN09682. Thank you.

Speaker #4: I'm just curious if you have any insight or perspective on how we should think about how that might evolve over the next year or a couple of years ?

Speaker #4: Would you insist that we sort of stay at that level , or should it trend down ? And then I have a follow up on 9682 .

Speaker #4: Thank you

Speaker #5: Yes . You know , over time , the quickest program will be less prominent as we get a more access . That access .

Isabel Kalofonos: Yes. You know, over time, the QuickStart program will be less prominent as we get more access, better access, in formularies. We're expecting that, you know, perhaps for then I think 18 months, we'll have the program, but eventually, you know, to transition to just paid treatment. That's how I see the evolution of the plan.

Speaker #5: We are in formularies , so we are expecting that , you know , perhaps 18 months . We'll have the program , but eventually , you know , to transition to just paid , paid treatments .

Speaker #5: So that's how I see the evolution of the plan

Speaker #4: Okay , great . And then , Scott , to your point , that sort of 96 to 82 is sort of now the apple of your eye .

Douglas Tsao: Okay, great. Scott, to your point, that sort of CRN09682 is sort of now the apple of your eye, and I think this is the most you've talked about, sort of an interest in terms of expanding on this platform. I'm just curious, you know, how we should think about or how you're thinking about sort of the pace of innovation on this side of the business versus sort of your initial focus on sort of endocrinology?

Speaker #4: And I think this is the most you've talked about sort of an interest in terms of expanding on this platform . And I guess I'm just curious , you know , how we should think about or how you're thinking about sort of the pace of innovation on this side of the business versus sort of your initial focus on sort of endocrinology

Speaker #1: Oh , so no , thanks , Doug . Great question . We are still really committed to endocrinology . Don't don't take this as anything other than , you know , the newest and shiniest drug in our pipeline .

Scott Struthers: No, thanks, Doug. Great question. We are still really committed to endocrinology. Don't take this as anything other than, you know, the newest and shiniest drug in our pipeline, and I'm really looking forward to seeing something come from it. We are working very hard to expand the endocrine side of the business. One of the things I've been learning as we've launched and I've been doing ride-alongs with some of our salespeople and our MSLs, is how useful it will be in the future for us to walk into an office and be able to talk to them about their various types of patients, their acromegaly patients, their Cushing's patients, their CAH patients, you know, and some of them even see neuroendocrine tumor patients. I think there's a huge synergy there.

Speaker #1: And I'm really looking forward to seeing something come from it . But we'll we are working very hard to expand the endocrine side of the the business One of the things I've been learning as we've launched in , I've been doing ride alongs with some of our sales and our msls is how useful it will be in the future for walk into an and be able to talk to them about their various types of patients , their acromegaly patients , their Cushing's patients , their car patients .

Speaker #1: You know , and some of them even see neuroendocrine tumor patients . So I think there's a huge synergy there . But now as we start moving from neuroendocrine tumors into and carcinoid syndrome into perhaps treating the tumors themselves , you know , I just do want to see where this technology can take us .

Scott Struthers: Now, as we start moving from neuroendocrine tumors into and carcinoid syndrome, into perhaps treating the tumors themselves, you know, I just do want to see where this technology can take us. It's early days. We're waiting to see how 9682 performs and what we can learn from it. It's a whole new platform, you know, we're planting seeds, and this tree should bear fruit one of these days.

Speaker #1: So it's early days . We're waiting to see how nine six , eight , two performs and what we can learn from it .

Speaker #1: From it It's a whole new platform , but you know , we're we're planting seeds in this tree should bear fruit . One of these days

Speaker #4: Okay , great . That's really helpful to hear . Thank you . And congrats on the parvus .

Douglas Tsao: Okay, great. That's really helpful to hear. Thank you, and congrats on the progress.

Speaker #1: Thanks , Doug

Scott Struthers: Thanks, Doug.

Speaker #3: And our final question today comes from Andy Chen with Wolfe Research . Your line is open . Please go ahead

Operator: Our final question today comes from Andy Chen with Wolfe Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hey , thank you for taking the question . Just curious if you can comment on your competition's growth , recent revenue trajectory In car .

Andy Chen: Hey, thank you for taking the question. Just curious if you can comment on your competition's growth, recent revenue trajectory in CAH. What do you think is happening here? Do you feel like you have a greater opportunity, or do you think you have a lesser opportunity, given the recent trajectory? Do you think it's slowing down? If you have any commentary on whether you think certain patient segments are tougher to capture, that'd be great. Thank you.

Speaker #6: What do you think is happening here ? Do you do you feel like you would you have a greater opportunity or do you think you have a lesser opportunity given the recent trajectory , do you think it's slowing down and and if you have any commentary on whether you think certain patient segments are tougher to capture ?

Speaker #6: That'd be great . Thank you

Speaker #1: Oh , yeah . No , I mean , we don't have a field force out there talking to docs about car . So I think that's more a question for the folks out there with that drug .

Scott Struthers: Yeah, no, I mean, we don't have a field force out there talking to docs about CAH, I think that's more a question for the folks out there with that drug. I will say that I do think the things we're learning about acromegaly, the acromegaly prescribers, and the community endocrinologists, many of whom do see CAH patients, and the capabilities we're building are directly transferable to the CAH patient population. It's part of the whole synergy that we've sought to build, both in our pipeline and then later in the marketplace, by focusing on endocrinology, which is something that, you know, Alan and I have done our whole careers and many others here in the company have spent their whole careers on.

Speaker #1: But I will say that I do think the things we're learning about acromegaly and acromegaly prescribers and the community endocrinologists , many of whom do see patients and the capabilities we're building , are directly transferable to the car patient population .

Speaker #1: So it's part of the whole synergy that sought to build , both in our pipeline and then later in the marketplace by focusing on endocrinology , which is something that , you know , Alan and I have done our whole careers and many others here in the company have spent their whole careers on so we've we've consistently talked about we are not just a sponsor coming in with a new molecule and plan to be gone from endocrinology .

Scott Struthers: We've consistently talked about we are not just a sponsor coming in with a new molecule and plan to be gone from endocrinology. We're a part of that community, both as sponsors of clinical trials and now selling drugs, but also in research and collaborations.

Speaker #1: We're a part of that community , both as sponsors of clinical trials and now selling drugs and but also in research and collaborations .

Speaker #5: So , yes , you know , for me , personify is the beginning of the story . And you can see it's a high differentiated profile all around .

Isabel Kalofonos: Yes, you know, for me, PALSONIFY is the beginning of the story, and you can see it's a highly differentiated profile all around. If you start looking at the competitive market in acromegaly, for instance, today we published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism our indirect treatment comparison, where we show superiority, even a statistically significant superior to a place. We are prepared to deliver as well in our future molecules as well. This is just the beginning.

Speaker #5: And if you start looking at the competitive market in acromegaly , for instance , today we published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology indirect treatment comparison , where we show superiority even in statistically significant , superior to a place .

Speaker #5: So we are prepared to deliver as well in a future molecules as well . This is just the beginning

Speaker #6: Thank you

Scott Struthers: Thank you.

Andy Chen: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Ladies and gentlemen , this concludes our Q&A . And today's Crinetics Pharmaceuticals . Fourth quarter and full year 2020 financial results We like to thank you for your participation .

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our Q&A and today's Crinetics Pharmaceuticals Q4 and full year 2025 financial results. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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