Q4 2025 Lindblad Expeditions Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Thank you for your patience. Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Bella, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Lindblad Expeditions Holdings, Inc., 2025 fourth quarter and full-year financial results.
Operator: Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Bella, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Lindblad Expeditions Holdings, Inc. 2025 Q4 and Full Year Financial Results. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. We do request for today's session that you please limit to 2 questions. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Goldberg, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin.
Natalya Leahy: Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Bella, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Lindblad Expeditions Holdings, Inc. 2025 Q4 and Full Year Financial Results. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. We do request for today's session that you please limit to 2 questions. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Goldberg, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin.
Speaker #2: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. We do request for today's session that you please limit to two questions.
Speaker #2: If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again.
Speaker #2: I would now like to turn the conference over to Rick Goldberg, Chief Financial Officer, you may begin. Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Lindblad's fourth quarter 2025 earnings call.
Rick Goldberg: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Lindblad's Q4 2025 earnings call. With me on today's call is Natalya Leahy, our Chief Executive Officer. Natalya will begin with some opening comments. I will follow with details on our 2025 results and 2026 expectations before we open the call for Q&A. As always, you can find our latest earnings release in the investor relations section of our website. Before we get to all of that, I'd like to remind everyone that the company's comments today may include forward-looking statements. Those expectations are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and performance to be materially different from these expectations. The company cannot guarantee the accuracy of any forecast or estimates. We undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements.
Rick Goldberg: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Lindblad's Q4 2025 earnings call. With me on today's call is Natalya Leahy, our Chief Executive Officer. Natalya will begin with some opening comments. I will follow with details on our 2025 results and 2026 expectations before we open the call for Q&A. As always, you can find our latest earnings release in the investor relations section of our website. Before we get to all of that, I'd like to remind everyone that the company's comments today may include forward-looking statements. Those expectations are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and performance to be materially different from these expectations. The company cannot guarantee the accuracy of any forecast or estimates. We undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: With me on today's call is Natalya Leahy, our Chief Executive Officer. Natalya will begin with some opening comments, and I will follow with details on our 2025 results and 2026 expectations before we open the call for Q&A.
Speaker #2: As always, you can find our latest earnings release in the investor relations section of our website. But before we get to all of that, I'd like to remind everyone that the company's comments today may include forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Those expectations are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and performance to be materially different from these expectations. The company cannot guarantee the accuracy of any forecast or estimates, and we undertake no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: If you would like more information on the risks involved in forward-looking statements, please see the company's SEC filings. In addition, our comments may reference non-GAAP financial measures, a reconciliation of the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in the company's earnings release.
Rick Goldberg: If you would like more information on the risks involved in forward-looking statements, please see the company's SEC filings. In addition, our comments may reference non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in the company's earnings release. With that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Natalia.
Rick Goldberg: If you would like more information on the risks involved in forward-looking statements, please see the company's SEC filings. In addition, our comments may reference non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in the company's earnings release. With that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Natalia.
Speaker #2: With that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Natalya.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Rick. Good morning, everyone. Well, we are very excited to share our progress and results today. As we begin this call, I'd like to start with the words from our founders when Lindblad.
Natalya Leahy: Thank you, Rick. Good morning, everyone. Well, we are very excited to share our progress and results today. As we begin this call, I'd like to start with the words from our founder, Sven Lindblad. We have always had a very distinct North Star. If we can provide people with extraordinary experiences in the world's most charismatic places, they form a connection with the natural world that is truly profound. This year, as we celebrate the 60th anniversary of the very first non-scientific expedition to Antarctica, led by Sven's father, this North Star feels as relevant as ever. It guides us in every decision, every day.
Natalya Leahy: Thank you, Rick. Good morning, everyone. Well, we are very excited to share our progress and results today. As we begin this call, I'd like to start with the words from our founder, Sven Lindblad. We have always had a very distinct North Star. If we can provide people with extraordinary experiences in the world's most charismatic places, they form a connection with the natural world that is truly profound. This year, as we celebrate the 60th anniversary of the very first non-scientific expedition to Antarctica, led by Sven's father, this North Star feels as relevant as ever. It guides us in every decision, every day.
Speaker #3: We have always had a very distinct North Star, if we can provide people with extraordinary experiences in the world's most charismatic places, they form a connection with the natural world that is truly profound.
Speaker #3: This year, as we celebrate the 60th anniversary of the very first non-scientific expedition to Antarctica, led by Sven's father, this North Star feels as relevant as ever.
Speaker #3: It guides us in every decision, every day. Rick and I recently marked our first year in the company aboard National Geographic Resolution in Antarctica, and standing on a bridge as Captain Martin noted that we were "the southernmost passenger ship in the world for days." And later skiing with Expedition Leader Stefana towards a glacier with Emperor Penguins nearby.
Natalya Leahy: Rick and I recently marked our first year in the company aboard National Geographic Resolution in Antarctica, and standing on the bridge, as Captain Martin noted, that we were the southernmost passenger ship in the world for days, and later skiing with expedition leader, Stefana, towards a glacier with emperor penguins nearby. It's moments like this that remind us what truly sets Lindblad Expeditions apart: unmatched expertise, intimate ships, and deeply authentic experiences. That commitment is not only philosophical. It drives results. In 2025, we delivered record guest satisfaction scores and record financial performance, while strengthening our operating discipline and accelerating progress across all three strategic pillars. To that end, we've also rounded up our strong leadership team with the recent addition of a new chief marketing officer, Mike Fulkerson, who brings extensive experience across hospitality, luxury, expedition, and cruising sectors. Turning to our results.
Natalya Leahy: Rick and I recently marked our first year in the company aboard National Geographic Resolution in Antarctica, and standing on the bridge, as Captain Martin noted, that we were the southernmost passenger ship in the world for days, and later skiing with expedition leader, Stefana, towards a glacier with emperor penguins nearby. It's moments like this that remind us what truly sets Lindblad Expeditions apart: unmatched expertise, intimate ships, and deeply authentic experiences. That commitment is not only philosophical. It drives results. In 2025, we delivered record guest satisfaction scores and record financial performance, while strengthening our operating discipline and accelerating progress across all three strategic pillars. To that end, we've also rounded up our strong leadership team with the recent addition of a new chief marketing officer, Mike Fulkerson, who brings extensive experience across hospitality, luxury, expedition, and cruising sectors. Turning to our results.
Speaker #3: It's moments like this that remind us what truly sets Lindblad Expeditions apart. Unmatched expertise, intimate ships, and deeply authentic experiences. That commitment is not only philosophical; it drives results.
Speaker #3: In 2025, we delivered record guest satisfaction scores, and record financial performance. While strengthening our operating discipline and accelerating progress across all three strategic pillars.
Speaker #3: To that end, we've also rounded up our strong leadership team with the recent addition of a new Chief Marketing Officer, Mike Fulkerson, who brings extensive experience across hospitality, luxury, expedition, and cruising sectors.
Speaker #3: Turning to our results, full-year revenues reached a record $771 million, representing 20% cross-year-over-year. We achieved record crossing yields to 1,335 per guest night, the highest in the company's history.
Natalya Leahy: Full year revenues reached a record $771 million, representing 20% growth year-over-year. We achieved record growth in yield to 1,335 per guest night, the highest in the company's history. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 38% to another record of $126.2 million, with margins expanding 220 basis points to 16.4%, reflecting our operational discipline and the scalability of our business model. We also strengthened our balance sheet position, improving our net leverage from 4.6x at the end of 2024 to approximately 3.1x by year-end 2025. These full-year achievements were punctuated by our strong Q4 results, with revenues increasing 23% to $183.2 million.
Natalya Leahy: Full year revenues reached a record $771 million, representing 20% growth year-over-year. We achieved record growth in yield to 1,335 per guest night, the highest in the company's history. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 38% to another record of $126.2 million, with margins expanding 220 basis points to 16.4%, reflecting our operational discipline and the scalability of our business model. We also strengthened our balance sheet position, improving our net leverage from 4.6x at the end of 2024 to approximately 3.1x by year-end 2025. These full-year achievements were punctuated by our strong Q4 results, with revenues increasing 23% to $183.2 million.
Speaker #3: Our adjusted EBITDA increased 38% to another record of $126.2 million, with margins expanding 220 basis points to 16.4%, reflecting our operational discipline and the scalability of our business model.
Speaker #3: We also strengthened our balance sheet position, improving our net leverage from 4.6 times at the end of 2024 to approximately 3.1 times by year-end 2025.
Speaker #3: This full-year achievement was punctuated by our strong fourth-quarter results, with revenues increasing 23% to $183.2 million. The Lindblad segment delivered 28% revenue growth, driven by an 11% increase in net yields to $1,279 per guest night, while occupancy rose to 87% from 78% in Q4 2024.
Natalya Leahy: The Lindblad segment delivered 28% revenue growth, driven by an 11% increase in net yields to $1,279 per guest night, while occupancy rose to 87% from 78% in Q4 2024. Our Land Experiences segment maintained its momentum with 16% revenue growth, underscoring strength across our entire portfolio. Let me walk you through how we achieved these results across our three strategic pillars. Our first pillar focuses on maximizing revenue generation through occupancy, pricing, and deployment optimization. I'm proud to update you on our progress across multiple initiatives in this area. Our relationships with Disney continues to expand our reach through broader distribution to broader audiences, contributing to strong performance across key channels. As an example, bookings from earmarked Disney travel agents increased 35% for the full year.
Natalya Leahy: The Lindblad segment delivered 28% revenue growth, driven by an 11% increase in net yields to $1,279 per guest night, while occupancy rose to 87% from 78% in Q4 2024. Our Land Experiences segment maintained its momentum with 16% revenue growth, underscoring strength across our entire portfolio. Let me walk you through how we achieved these results across our three strategic pillars. Our first pillar focuses on maximizing revenue generation through occupancy, pricing, and deployment optimization. I'm proud to update you on our progress across multiple initiatives in this area. Our relationships with Disney continues to expand our reach through broader distribution to broader audiences, contributing to strong performance across key channels. As an example, bookings from earmarked Disney travel agents increased 35% for the full year.
Speaker #3: Our land experiences segment maintained its momentum, with 16% revenue growth, underscoring strengths across our entire portfolio. Let me walk you through how we achieved these results across our three strategic pillars.
Speaker #3: Our first pillar focuses on maximizing revenue generation through occupancy pricing and deployment optimization. I'm proud to update you on our progress across multiple initiatives in this area.
Speaker #3: Our relationships with Disney continue to expand our reach through broader distribution to broader audiences, contributing to strong performance across key channels. As an example, bookings from earmarked Disney travel agents increased 35% for the full year.
Speaker #3: Our onboard expedition sales program rollout resulted in nearly three times as many bookings in 2025 compared to 2024. Importantly, the percentage of guests booking within 30 days from a voyage has doubled since the launch of the program, leading to an expanded booking curve and a higher repeat rate.
Natalya Leahy: Our onboard expedition sales program rollout resulted in nearly 3 times as many bookings in 2025 compared to 2024. Importantly, the percentage of guests booking within 30 days from a voyage has doubled since the launch of the program, leading to expanded booking curves and higher repeat rate. Our outbound sales program gained significant traction, with sales increasing 97% for the full year. We continue to see this as a high-potential channel that is in its early stages. Our online bookings increased 52% year-over-year, fueled by strong demand generation through our National Geographic partnership, as well as significant enhancements to our web platform. Our extension revenues increased 45% for the year. We are pleased that we are seeing customers take full advantage of our full range of expedition offerings as they travel with us.
Natalya Leahy: Our onboard expedition sales program rollout resulted in nearly 3 times as many bookings in 2025 compared to 2024. Importantly, the percentage of guests booking within 30 days from a voyage has doubled since the launch of the program, leading to expanded booking curves and higher repeat rate. Our outbound sales program gained significant traction, with sales increasing 97% for the full year. We continue to see this as a high-potential channel that is in its early stages. Our online bookings increased 52% year-over-year, fueled by strong demand generation through our National Geographic partnership, as well as significant enhancements to our web platform. Our extension revenues increased 45% for the year. We are pleased that we are seeing customers take full advantage of our full range of expedition offerings as they travel with us.
Speaker #3: Our outbound sales program gained significant traction, with sales increasing 97% for the full year. We continue to see this as a high potential channel that is in its early stages.
Speaker #3: Our online bookings increased 52% year-over-year, fueled by strong demand generation through our National Geographic partnership, as well as significant enhancements to our web platform.
Speaker #3: Our extension revenues increased 45% for the year. We are pleased that we are seeing customers take full advantage of our full range of expedition offerings, as they travel with us.
Speaker #3: I just returned from London, where our team hosted a series of travel advisors and journalists. We are very encouraged by the progress in the UK market and the momentum we've been building.
Natalya Leahy: I just returned from London, where our team hosted a series of travel advisors and journalists. We are very encouraged by the progress in the UK market and the momentum we've been building. In just the first six weeks of the year, we already booked half of our 2025 revenue. Our second pillar focuses on optimizing financial performance through cost innovation and fixed asset utilization. During the year, we made significant strides in building cost innovation pipelines throughout our organization. A key highlight in our 2026 capacity growth strategy is that we are now realizing the benefits from last year's fleet optimization work. We expect mid-single-digit capacity growth in 2026, driven almost entirely by our dry dock and deployment optimization that reduced non-revenue days by over 100, enabling us to release additional voyages and drive incremental sales.
Natalya Leahy: I just returned from London, where our team hosted a series of travel advisors and journalists. We are very encouraged by the progress in the UK market and the momentum we've been building. In just the first six weeks of the year, we already booked half of our 2025 revenue. Our second pillar focuses on optimizing financial performance through cost innovation and fixed asset utilization. During the year, we made significant strides in building cost innovation pipelines throughout our organization. A key highlight in our 2026 capacity growth strategy is that we are now realizing the benefits from last year's fleet optimization work. We expect mid-single-digit capacity growth in 2026, driven almost entirely by our dry dock and deployment optimization that reduced non-revenue days by over 100, enabling us to release additional voyages and drive incremental sales.
Speaker #3: In just the first six weeks of the year, we already booked half of our 2025 revenue. Our second pillar focuses on optimizing financial performance through cost innovation and fixed asset utilization.
Speaker #3: During the year, we made significant strides in building cost innovation pipelines throughout our organization. A key highlight in our 2026 capacity growth strategy is that we are now realizing the benefits from last year's fleet optimization work.
Speaker #3: We expect mixed single-digit capacity growth in 2026, driven almost entirely by our dry dock and deployment optimization, that reduced non-revenue-based by over 100. Enabling us to release additional voyages and drive incremental sales.
Speaker #3: We've extended this work into our 2027 deployment and beyond, and are pleased to see that we expect future efficiencies to be unlocked. Looking ahead, we've also built another strong pipeline of cost innovation initiatives for 2026 and beyond, positioning us to realize continued operational efficiencies over the long term.
Natalya Leahy: We've extended this work into our 2027 deployment and beyond. Are pleased to see that we expect further efficiencies to be unlocked. Looking ahead, we've also built another strong pipeline of cost innovation initiatives for 2026 and beyond, positioning us to realize continued operational efficiencies over the long term. Our last strategic pillar focuses on exploring and capitalizing on accretive growth opportunities. Last January, we acquired two Galápagos ships, as you know, expanding our presence in the core market, reinforcing our leadership position there. We also expanded charter portfolio, including a new 3-year agreement with Greg Mortimer, increasing and modernizing our Alaska capacity through a capital-light approach. Additionally, we completed the small tuck-in acquisition of Earthwatch under Natural Habitat, adding a respected citizen science brand to our portfolio.
Natalya Leahy: We've extended this work into our 2027 deployment and beyond. Are pleased to see that we expect further efficiencies to be unlocked. Looking ahead, we've also built another strong pipeline of cost innovation initiatives for 2026 and beyond, positioning us to realize continued operational efficiencies over the long term. Our last strategic pillar focuses on exploring and capitalizing on accretive growth opportunities. Last January, we acquired two Galápagos ships, as you know, expanding our presence in the core market, reinforcing our leadership position there. We also expanded charter portfolio, including a new 3-year agreement with Greg Mortimer, increasing and modernizing our Alaska capacity through a capital-light approach. Additionally, we completed the small tuck-in acquisition of Earthwatch under Natural Habitat, adding a respected citizen science brand to our portfolio.
Speaker #3: Our last strategic pillar focuses on exploring and capitalizing on a creative growth opportunities. Last January, we acquired two Galapagos ships as you know, expanding our presence in the core market reinforcing our leadership positions there.
Speaker #3: We also expanded charter portfolio, including a new three-year agreement with Greg Mortimer increasing and modernizing our Alaska capacity, through a capital-light approach. Additionally, we completed the small tuck-in acquisition of Earth's Watch under natural habitat, adding a respected citizen science brand to our portfolio.
Natalya Leahy: As we look ahead, a key focus of 2026 will be on identifying accretive growth opportunities, both across the fleet and by adding to our portfolio of brands. As always, I want to reiterate our purpose, our why. Our commitment to responsible exploration remains central to who we are and a defining differentiator for our company. For us, it's more than a trip, it's a mission. In 2025, we made a record $3 million investment through the Lindblad Expeditions-National Geographic Fund, the largest in its 18-year history, supporting critical conservation, research, and education initiatives worldwide. We supported 36 scientists, education, and storytelling projects, including hosting visiting scientists on 25 voyages and welcoming 35 teacher fellows. I'm especially proud of our teams, whose grassroots efforts raised over $50,000 to support gray whale research, a powerful reflection of our culture in action.
Natalya Leahy: As we look ahead, a key focus of 2026 will be on identifying accretive growth opportunities, both across the fleet and by adding to our portfolio of brands. As always, I want to reiterate our purpose, our why. Our commitment to responsible exploration remains central to who we are and a defining differentiator for our company. For us, it's more than a trip, it's a mission. In 2025, we made a record $3 million investment through the Lindblad Expeditions-National Geographic Fund, the largest in its 18-year history, supporting critical conservation, research, and education initiatives worldwide. We supported 36 scientists, education, and storytelling projects, including hosting visiting scientists on 25 voyages and welcoming 35 teacher fellows. I'm especially proud of our teams, whose grassroots efforts raised over $50,000 to support gray whale research, a powerful reflection of our culture in action.
Speaker #3: As we look ahead, a key focus of 2026 will be on identifying a creative growth opportunities both across the fleet and by adding to our portfolio of brands.
Speaker #3: As always, I want to reiterate our purpose. Our why. Our commitment to responsible exploration remains central to who we are and a defining differentiator for our company.
Speaker #3: For us, it's more than a trip. It's a mission. In 2025, we made a record $3 million investment through the Lindblad Expeditions National Geographic Fund, the largest in its 18-year history, supporting critical conservation research and education initiatives worldwide.
Speaker #3: We supported 36 scientists education and storytelling projects including hosting visiting scientists on 25 voyages and welcoming 35 picture fellows. I'm especially proud of our teams whose grassroots efforts raised over $50,000 to support Grail Whale research, a powerful reflection of our culture in action.
Speaker #3: Turning to our outlook for 2026, our booking momentum remains very strong. We had a record wait season and booked revenue for 2026 has already exceeded revenue for 2025.
Natalya Leahy: Turning to our outlook for 2026, our booking momentum remains very strong. We had a record wave season, and booked revenue for 2026 has already exceeded revenue for 2025. We're seeing similar positive trends for 2027 bookings, both across land and expedition segments. We are guiding full-year revenues and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $800 to $850 million and $140 to $140 million, respectively. Rick will provide more details on the pacing of our earnings build this year. We are excited by our momentum and are optimistic about the opportunities ahead of us. In closing, 2025 was a foundational year, laying the groundwork for sustained, profitable growth in years ahead. We delivered record revenue, record yields, and record EBITDA, alongside a significantly strengthened balance sheet, clear evidence that our strategy is working.
Natalya Leahy: Turning to our outlook for 2026, our booking momentum remains very strong. We had a record wave season, and booked revenue for 2026 has already exceeded revenue for 2025. We're seeing similar positive trends for 2027 bookings, both across land and expedition segments. We are guiding full-year revenues and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $800 to $850 million and $140 to $140 million, respectively. Rick will provide more details on the pacing of our earnings build this year. We are excited by our momentum and are optimistic about the opportunities ahead of us. In closing, 2025 was a foundational year, laying the groundwork for sustained, profitable growth in years ahead. We delivered record revenue, record yields, and record EBITDA, alongside a significantly strengthened balance sheet, clear evidence that our strategy is working.
Speaker #3: We are seeing similar positive trends for 2027 bookings, both across land and expedition segments. We are guiding full-year revenues and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $800 to $850 million and $130 to $140 million respectively.
Speaker #3: Rick will provide more details on the pacing of our earnings bill this year, but we are excited by our momentum and are optimistic about the opportunities ahead of us.
Speaker #3: In closing, 2025 was a foundational year. Laying the groundwork for sustained profitable growth in years ahead. We delivered record revenue, record yields, and record EBITDA.
Speaker #3: Alongside a significantly strengthened balance sheet, clear evidence that our strategy is working. These results reflect our team's discipline, execution, and long-standing commitment to our North Star.
Natalya Leahy: These results reflect our team's discipline, execution, and long-standing commitment to our North Star. Thank you for your continued confidence in Lindblad Expeditions. I'll now turn the call over to Rick for the financial results.
Natalya Leahy: These results reflect our team's discipline, execution, and long-standing commitment to our North Star. Thank you for your continued confidence in Lindblad Expeditions. I'll now turn the call over to Rick for the financial results.
Speaker #3: Thank you for your continued confidence in Lindblad Expeditions. I'll now turn the call over to Rick for the financial results.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Natalia. It's been a privilege to partner with you and the entire leadership team at Lindblad Expeditions over the past year. And traveling with you to Antarctica, aboard the National Geographic Resolution, and to Churchill, Canada, to see the polar bears with natural habitat, were two personal highlights.
Rick Goldberg: Thank you, Natalya. It's been a privilege to partner with you and the entire leadership team at Lindblad Expeditions over the past year, and traveling with you to Antarctica aboard the National Geographic Resolution and to Churchill, Canada, to see the polar bears with Natural Habitat, were two personal highlights. 2025 was a record-setting year for Lindblad Expeditions. We achieved the highest guest satisfaction scores in our history, the highest net yield, and the highest EBITDA, a testament to the strength of our brand, our strategy, and our team. Total company revenues for 2025 were $771 million, an increase of $126.3 million, or 19.6% versus 2024. Lindblad segment revenues were $495.6 million, an increase of $72.3 million, or 17.1% compared to the prior year.
Rick Goldberg: Thank you, Natalya. It's been a privilege to partner with you and the entire leadership team at Lindblad Expeditions over the past year, and traveling with you to Antarctica aboard the National Geographic Resolution and to Churchill, Canada, to see the polar bears with Natural Habitat, were two personal highlights. 2025 was a record-setting year for Lindblad Expeditions. We achieved the highest guest satisfaction scores in our history, the highest net yield, and the highest EBITDA, a testament to the strength of our brand, our strategy, and our team. Total company revenues for 2025 were $771 million, an increase of $126.3 million, or 19.6% versus 2024. Lindblad segment revenues were $495.6 million, an increase of $72.3 million, or 17.1% compared to the prior year.
Speaker #1: 2025 was a record-setting year for Lindblad Expeditions. We achieved the highest guest satisfaction scores in our history, the highest net yield, and the highest EBITDA, a testament to the strength of our brand, our strategy, and our team.
Speaker #1: Total company revenues for 2025 were $771 million, an increase of 126.3 million or 19.6% versus 2024. Lindblad segment revenues were $495.6 million, an increase of 72.3 million or 17.1% compared to the prior year.
Speaker #1: Occupancy increased 10 percentage points from 78% to 88%, and net yield per an available guest night increased 14.1% to $1,335, the highest in company history.
Rick Goldberg: Occupancy increased 10 percentage points from 78% to 88%. Net yield per available guest night increased 14.1% to $1,335, the highest in company history. Land Experiences Segment revenues were $275.4 million, an increase of $54 million, or 24.4% compared to 2024, driven by a 16% increase in guests and a 7% increase in revenue per guest. Turning now to the cost side of the business. Operating expenses before stock-based compensation, transaction-related expenses, depreciation and amortization, interest, and taxes increased $91.3 million or 16.5% versus 2024. Specifically, cost of tours increased $55.4 million or 15.3%, driven by operating additional voyages and trips, and the inclusion of a full year of the results for Thomson Group.
Rick Goldberg: Occupancy increased 10 percentage points from 78% to 88%. Net yield per available guest night increased 14.1% to $1,335, the highest in company history. Land Experiences Segment revenues were $275.4 million, an increase of $54 million, or 24.4% compared to 2024, driven by a 16% increase in guests and a 7% increase in revenue per guest. Turning now to the cost side of the business. Operating expenses before stock-based compensation, transaction-related expenses, depreciation and amortization, interest, and taxes increased $91.3 million or 16.5% versus 2024. Specifically, cost of tours increased $55.4 million or 15.3%, driven by operating additional voyages and trips, and the inclusion of a full year of the results for Thomson Group.
Speaker #1: Land experience segment revenues were $275.4 million, an increase of 54 million or 24.4% compared to 2024. Driven by a 16% increase in guests and a 7% increase in revenue per a guest.
Speaker #1: Turning now to the cost side of the business, operating expenses before stock-based compensation transaction-related expenses depreciation and amortization interest and taxes increased 91.3 million or 16.5% versus 2024.
Speaker #1: Specifically, cost of tours increased 55.4 million or 15.3%, driven by operating additional voyages and trips, and the inclusion of a full year of the results for Thomson Group.
Speaker #1: Fuel costs were 4.8% of Lindblad segment revenue, which was down 150 basis points versus 2024. Sales and marketing costs increased $27.7 million, or 31.8%, primarily due to higher royalties and commission expenses, and investments in demand generation efforts.
Rick Goldberg: Fuel costs were 4.8% of Lindblad segment revenue, which was down 150 basis points versus 2024. Sales and marketing costs increased $27.7 million, or 31.8%, primarily due to higher royalties and commission expenses and investments in demand generation efforts. General and administrative costs, excluding stock-based compensation and transaction-related expenses, increased $8.2 million, or 7.8% versus a year ago, driven by higher personnel costs and the inclusion of a full year of results for Thompson Group, partially offset by $5.3 million of employee retention tax credits. 2025 adjusted EBITDA was $126.2 million, the highest result in our history, and an increase of $35 million, or 38.4% versus the prior year.
Rick Goldberg: Fuel costs were 4.8% of Lindblad segment revenue, which was down 150 basis points versus 2024. Sales and marketing costs increased $27.7 million, or 31.8%, primarily due to higher royalties and commission expenses and investments in demand generation efforts. General and administrative costs, excluding stock-based compensation and transaction-related expenses, increased $8.2 million, or 7.8% versus a year ago, driven by higher personnel costs and the inclusion of a full year of results for Thompson Group, partially offset by $5.3 million of employee retention tax credits. 2025 adjusted EBITDA was $126.2 million, the highest result in our history, and an increase of $35 million, or 38.4% versus the prior year.
Speaker #1: General and administrative costs, excluding stock-based compensation and transaction-related expenses, increased 8.2 million or 7.8% versus a year ago, driven by higher personnel costs and the inclusion of a full year of results for Thomson Group.
Speaker #1: Partially offset by $5.3 million of employee retention tax credits. 2025 adjusted EBITDA was $126.2 million. The highest result in our history, and an increase of 35 million or 38.4% versus the prior year.
Speaker #1: This was driven by a 20.4 million or 34.3% increase in the Lindblad segment and a 14.6 million or 46% increase in the land experiences segment.
Rick Goldberg: This was driven by a $20.4 million, or 34.3% increase in the Lindblad segment and a $14.6 million, or 46% increase in the Land Experiences segment. EBITDA margin improved 220 basis points from 14.2% in 2024 to 16.4% in 2025. Net loss available to stockholders was $34.6 million, or $0.63 per diluted share, versus $0.67 per diluted share in 2024, driven by improved operating income, offset by a $23.5 million loss on extinguishment of debt related to our August refinancing and higher depreciation and amortization, primarily from the addition of the National Geographic Gemini and Delfina to our fleet.
Rick Goldberg: This was driven by a $20.4 million, or 34.3% increase in the Lindblad segment and a $14.6 million, or 46% increase in the Land Experiences segment. EBITDA margin improved 220 basis points from 14.2% in 2024 to 16.4% in 2025. Net loss available to stockholders was $34.6 million, or $0.63 per diluted share, versus $0.67 per diluted share in 2024, driven by improved operating income, offset by a $23.5 million loss on extinguishment of debt related to our August refinancing and higher depreciation and amortization, primarily from the addition of the National Geographic Gemini and Delfina to our fleet.
Speaker #1: EBITDA margin improved 220 basis points from 14.2% in 2024 to 16.4% in 2025. Net loss available to stockholders was 34.6 million or 63 cents per diluted share, versus 67 cents per diluted share in 2024, driven by improved operating income, offset by a 23.5 million loss on extinguishment of debt related to our August refinancing, and higher depreciation and amortization, primarily from the addition of the National Geographic Gemini and Delfina to our fleet.
Speaker #1: Looking quickly at the fourth quarter of 2025, revenues increased 34.6 million or 23.4% compared to the same period in 2024. Lindblad segment revenues increased 25.2 million or 27.8%, driven by a 9 percentage point increase in occupancy to 87%, and an 11.2% increase in net yield per an available guest night.
Rick Goldberg: Looking quickly at the Q4 2025, revenues increased $34.6 million, or 23.4%, compared to the same period in 2024. Lindblad segment revenues increased to $25.2 million, or 27.8%, driven by a 9 percentage point increase in occupancy to 87% and an 11.2% increase in net yield per available guest night. Land Experiences revenues increased $9.3 million, or 16.1%. Adjusted EBITDA for the Q4 was $14.2 million, an increase of approximately $700,000, or 5.4% from the Q4 a year ago. This was driven by a $2.5 million increase in the Land Experiences EBITDA, partially offset by a $1.8 million decline in Lindblad segment EBITDA.
Rick Goldberg: Looking quickly at the Q4 2025, revenues increased $34.6 million, or 23.4%, compared to the same period in 2024. Lindblad segment revenues increased to $25.2 million, or 27.8%, driven by a 9 percentage point increase in occupancy to 87% and an 11.2% increase in net yield per available guest night. Land Experiences revenues increased $9.3 million, or 16.1%. Adjusted EBITDA for the Q4 was $14.2 million, an increase of approximately $700,000, or 5.4% from the Q4 a year ago. This was driven by a $2.5 million increase in the Land Experiences EBITDA, partially offset by a $1.8 million decline in Lindblad segment EBITDA.
Speaker #1: Land experiences revenues increased 9.3 million or 16.1%. Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter was 14.2 million and increased of approximately $700,000 or 5.4% from the fourth quarter a year ago, this was driven by a 2.5 million increase in the land experiences EBITDA, partially offset by a 1.8 million decline in Lindblad segment EBITDA.
Speaker #1: As we previously shared, Q4 EBITDA was impacted by an increased number of dry and wet docks, and a shift in the timing of our marketing spend to set the stage for wave season.
Rick Goldberg: As we've previously shared, Q4 EBITDA was impacted by an increased number of dry and wet docks and a shift in the timing of our marketing spend to set the stage for wave season. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with total cash of $289.7 million, an increase of $73.6 million versus the end of 2024. The increase reflects $111.6 million in cash from operations, due primarily to the strong results of the business and increased bookings for future travel. We used $67.3 million of cash for investing activities, which includes the acquisition and refurbishment of two Galápagos vessels. For the full year, we generated $63.8 million in free cash flow. On 20 January, we announced the mandatory conversion of our 6% Series A convertible preferred stock.
Rick Goldberg: As we've previously shared, Q4 EBITDA was impacted by an increased number of dry and wet docks and a shift in the timing of our marketing spend to set the stage for wave season. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with total cash of $289.7 million, an increase of $73.6 million versus the end of 2024. The increase reflects $111.6 million in cash from operations, due primarily to the strong results of the business and increased bookings for future travel. We used $67.3 million of cash for investing activities, which includes the acquisition and refurbishment of two Galápagos vessels. For the full year, we generated $63.8 million in free cash flow. On 20 January, we announced the mandatory conversion of our 6% Series A convertible preferred stock.
Speaker #1: Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the year with total cash of $289.7 million, an increase of 73.6 million versus the end of 2024.
Speaker #1: The increase reflects 111.6 million in cash from operations, due primarily to the strong results of the business and increased bookings for future travel. We used 67.3 million of cash for investing activities, which includes the acquisition and refurbishment of two Galapagos vessels, for the full year we generated 63.8 million in free cash flow.
Speaker #1: On January 20th, we announced the mandatory conversion of our 6% Series A convertible preferred stock. Following the refinancing of our debt in August, this transaction further simplified our capital structure, and strengthened our balance sheet by eliminating our interest obligation, and removing the risk of needing to repay the preferred stock in cash at maturity.
Rick Goldberg: Following the refinancing of our debt in August, this transaction further simplified our capital structure and strengthened our balance sheet by eliminating our interest obligation and removing the risk of needing to repay the preferred stock in cash at maturity. With this conversion behind us, we remain focused on pursuing accretive growth opportunities, including fleet expansion through charters, acquisitions, and potential new builds, as well as continuing to expand our portfolio of world-class land-based experiences. Turning to full-year guidance, I'm pleased to share our outlook for 2026. available guest nights are expected to increase 4.5% to 5%, about half of which is driven by optimizing our deployment and minimizing our non-revenue days. We also benefited from the full-year contribution of our two new Galápagos vessels and additional charter offerings. This capacity growth will be weighted toward the first half of the year.
Rick Goldberg: Following the refinancing of our debt in August, this transaction further simplified our capital structure and strengthened our balance sheet by eliminating our interest obligation and removing the risk of needing to repay the preferred stock in cash at maturity. With this conversion behind us, we remain focused on pursuing accretive growth opportunities, including fleet expansion through charters, acquisitions, and potential new builds, as well as continuing to expand our portfolio of world-class land-based experiences. Turning to full-year guidance, I'm pleased to share our outlook for 2026. available guest nights are expected to increase 4.5% to 5%, about half of which is driven by optimizing our deployment and minimizing our non-revenue days. We also benefited from the full-year contribution of our two new Galápagos vessels and additional charter offerings. This capacity growth will be weighted toward the first half of the year.
Speaker #1: With this conversion behind us, we remain focused on pursuing a creative growth opportunities including fleet expansion through charters acquisitions and potential new builds, as well as continuing to expand our portfolio of world-class land-based experiences.
Speaker #1: Turning to full-year guidance, I'm pleased to share our outlook for 2026. Available guest nights are expected to increase 4.5 to 5%. About half of which is driven by optimizing our deployment and minimizing our non-revenue days.
Speaker #1: We also benefited from the full-year contribution of our two new Galapagos vessels, and additional charter offerings. This capacity growth will be weighted toward the first half of the year.
Speaker #1: As Natalia mentioned, booking momentum remains strong, we delivered a record wave season, and booked revenue for 2026 has already surpassed full-year 2025 revenue. We are also seeing encouraging trends in 2027, with bookings pacing ahead of 2026 at the same point last year.
Rick Goldberg: As Natalya mentioned, booking momentum remains strong. We delivered a record wave season, and booked revenue for 2026 has already surpassed full year 2025 revenue. We are also seeing encouraging trends in 2027, with bookings pacing ahead of 2026 at the same point last year. Net yield per available guest night is expected to increase 4% to 5%. As a result of heavier capacity growth in the first half, mainly outside of our core, most profitable geographies, we anticipate a more modest net yield growth early in the year, with stronger performance in the second half. For 2026, we expect total company tour revenue in a range of $800 million to $850 million.
Rick Goldberg: As Natalya mentioned, booking momentum remains strong. We delivered a record wave season, and booked revenue for 2026 has already surpassed full year 2025 revenue. We are also seeing encouraging trends in 2027, with bookings pacing ahead of 2026 at the same point last year. Net yield per available guest night is expected to increase 4% to 5%. As a result of heavier capacity growth in the first half, mainly outside of our core, most profitable geographies, we anticipate a more modest net yield growth early in the year, with stronger performance in the second half. For 2026, we expect total company tour revenue in a range of $800 million to $850 million.
Speaker #1: Net yield per an available guest night is expected to increase 4% to 5%. As a result of heavier capacity growth in the first half, mainly outside of our core most profitable geographies, we anticipate a more modest net yield growth early in the year with stronger performance in the second half.
Speaker #1: For 2026, we expect total company tour revenue to be $850 million. We remain focused on cost innovation, with more than 20 targeted initiatives designed to enhance efficiency while preserving our commitment to a world-class guest experience and responsible exploration.
Rick Goldberg: We remain focused on cost innovation, with more than 20 targeted initiatives designed to enhance efficiency while preserving our commitment to a world-class guest experience and responsible exploration. At the same time, effective 1 January, we reached the final step up to the run rate royalty under our National Geographic agreement. Taking these factors together, we expect adjusted EBITDA in the range of $130 million to $140 million. We expect EBITDA growth to be slightly stronger in the second half, supported by a more favorable deployment mix and the first half impact of lapping the majority of the employee retention tax credits. We also anticipate approximately $10 million lower capital expenditures year-over-year, reflecting our work to optimize capital spend and the one-time impact in 2025 of refurbishing the National Geographic Gemini and Delfina.
Rick Goldberg: We remain focused on cost innovation, with more than 20 targeted initiatives designed to enhance efficiency while preserving our commitment to a world-class guest experience and responsible exploration. At the same time, effective 1 January, we reached the final step up to the run rate royalty under our National Geographic agreement. Taking these factors together, we expect adjusted EBITDA in the range of $130 million to $140 million. We expect EBITDA growth to be slightly stronger in the second half, supported by a more favorable deployment mix and the first half impact of lapping the majority of the employee retention tax credits. We also anticipate approximately $10 million lower capital expenditures year-over-year, reflecting our work to optimize capital spend and the one-time impact in 2025 of refurbishing the National Geographic Gemini and Delfina.
Speaker #1: At the same time, effective January 1st, we reach the final step up to the run rate royalty under our National Geographic agreement. Taking these factors together, we expect adjusted EBITDA in the range of $130 million to $140 million.
Speaker #1: We expect EBITDA growth to be slightly stronger in the second half, supported by a more favorable deployment mix, and the first half impact of lapping the majority of the employee retention tax credits.
Speaker #1: We also anticipate approximately $10 million lower capital expenditures year over year, reflecting our work to optimize capital spend, and a one-time impact in 2025 of refurbishing the National Geographic Gemini and Delfina, after one year at Lindblad Expeditions, Natalia and I are even more confident in the long-term potential of this business, and remain firmly committed to executing against the strategic pillars we outlined a year ago.
Rick Goldberg: After one year at Lindblad Expeditions, Natalia and I are even more confident in the long-term potential of this business and remain firmly committed to executing against the strategic pillars we outlined a year ago. First, maximizing revenue generation through occupancy, pricing, and deployment. Second, optimizing financial performance through cost innovation and fixed asset utilization. Third, exploring and capitalizing on accretive growth opportunities. Now, we would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Rick Goldberg: After one year at Lindblad Expeditions, Natalia and I are even more confident in the long-term potential of this business and remain firmly committed to executing against the strategic pillars we outlined a year ago. First, maximizing revenue generation through occupancy, pricing, and deployment. Second, optimizing financial performance through cost innovation and fixed asset utilization. Third, exploring and capitalizing on accretive growth opportunities. Now, we would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Speaker #1: First, maximizing revenue generation through occupancy pricing and deployment, second, optimizing financial performance through cost innovation and fixed asset utilization, and third, exploring and capitalizing on a creative growth opportunities.
Speaker #1: Now, we would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
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Speaker #2: Your first question comes from the line of Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Please go ahead, your line is now open.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, guys. Good morning. So Natalia or Rick, if we think about your guidance for the year and Rick, you gave us a lot of good color in terms of what you're expecting from a yield perspective, but just maybe if you could walk us through what would get you more towards whether it's we think about the high end of that range or the low end of that range.
Steven Wieczynski: Yeah, thanks, guys. Good morning. Natalya or Rick, you know, if we think about your guidance for the year, Rick, you gave us a lot of good color in terms of, you know, what you're expecting from a yield perspective. Just maybe if you could walk us through what would get you more towards, you know, whether it's, we think about the high end of that range or the low end of that range. Just trying to get a feel for what is embedded in there. If I think just about occupancy, you know, you guys ended 25 right around 87.5%, and I think you guys were still kind of thinking that could get into the low 90s this year.
Steven Wieczynski: Yeah, thanks, guys. Good morning. Natalya or Rick, you know, if we think about your guidance for the year, Rick, you gave us a lot of good color in terms of, you know, what you're expecting from a yield perspective. Just maybe if you could walk us through what would get you more towards, you know, whether it's, we think about the high end of that range or the low end of that range. Just trying to get a feel for what is embedded in there. If I think just about occupancy, you know, you guys ended 25 right around 87.5%, and I think you guys were still kind of thinking that could get into the low 90s this year.
Speaker #3: Just trying to get a feel for what is embedded in there because if I think just about occupancy, you guys ended 25 right around 87, 87.5%, and I think you guys were still kind of thinking that could get into the low 90s this year.
Speaker #3: It seems like getting to the midpoint of your guidance range, I mean, seems very realistic. And that would be even before assuming any kind of material price increases.
Steven Wieczynski: It seems like getting to the midpoint of your guidance range, I mean, seems, you know, very realistic. That would be even before assuming any kind of, you know, material price increases. Just trying to understand what, you know, what would get you more towards the high end versus the low end?
Steven Wieczynski: It seems like getting to the midpoint of your guidance range, I mean, seems, you know, very realistic. That would be even before assuming any kind of, you know, material price increases. Just trying to understand what, you know, what would get you more towards the high end versus the low end?
Speaker #3: So just trying to understand what would get you more towards the high end versus the low end.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Hey, Steve. Good to hear from you. So we ended the year with 88% occupancy and that's been a significant improvement as we are seeing a great momentum.
Natalya Leahy: Yeah. Hey, Steve, good to hear from you. We ended the year with 88% occupancy, and that's been a significant improvement as we are seeing great momentum. We are very confident to get to historical occupancy levels of 90%, also, as we've been talking about for a while now. I think that we are on track to do that, and yields, of course, will be mid digits as we talked about. In the past, it's very much dependent on the booking curve. We feel strong momentum and if always dependent on absence of any geopolitical situation or unexpected events that can impact the demand. Rick, anything else you want to add?
Natalya Leahy: Yeah. Hey, Steve, good to hear from you. We ended the year with 88% occupancy, and that's been a significant improvement as we are seeing great momentum. We are very confident to get to historical occupancy levels of 90%, also, as we've been talking about for a while now. I think that we are on track to do that, and yields, of course, will be mid digits as we talked about. In the past, it's very much dependent on the booking curve. We feel strong momentum and if always dependent on absence of any geopolitical situation or unexpected events that can impact the demand. Rick, anything else you want to add?
Speaker #4: We are very confident to get to historical occupancy levels of 90% and also as we've been talking about for a while now. And I think that we are on track to do that.
Speaker #4: And yields, of course, will be mid-digits as we talked about in the past. It's very much dependent on the booking curve. We feel strong momentum and if always dependent on absence of any geopolitical situation or unexpected events that can impact the demand and Rick, anything else you want to add?
Speaker #3: Yeah, I think specifically to your question, Steve, around what would it take for us to hit the high end of our range, I think it really comes down to one, no major geopolitical disruptions, and secondly, continuing to execute well against our strategic pillars of maximizing revenue growth and cost innovation.
Rick Goldberg: Yeah, I think, you know, specifically to your question, Steve, around what would it take for us to hit the high end of our range? I think it really comes down to, you know, one, no major geopolitical disruptions, and secondly, continuing to execute well against our strategic pillars of maximizing revenue growth and cost innovation.
Rick Goldberg: Yeah, I think, you know, specifically to your question, Steve, around what would it take for us to hit the high end of our range? I think it really comes down to, you know, one, no major geopolitical disruptions, and secondly, continuing to execute well against our strategic pillars of maximizing revenue growth and cost innovation.
Speaker #5: Okay. Gotcha. Thanks for that. And then second question, I guess, as we kind of you obviously kind of helped us a lot with the revenue side of the equation, but Rick, maybe if you could kind of walk us through how we how you're thinking about kind of costs for this year, anything from a cadence standpoint in terms of where costs would hit through the quarters, obviously, I think you said EBITDA growth would be higher in the second half of the year, but just maybe how you guys or what you're targeting from a cost per head perspective as we think about 2026.
Steven Wieczynski: Okay, gotcha. Thanks for that. Second question, I guess, is we kind of, you obviously kind of helped us a lot with the revenue side of the equation, but, you know, Rick, maybe if you could kind of walk us through how you're thinking about kind of cost for this year. Anything from, you know, from a cadence standpoint in terms of where costs would hit through the quarters? You know, obviously, I think you said, you know, EBITDA growth would be, you know, higher in the second half of the year, but just maybe, you know, maybe how you guys are, what you're targeting from a, you know, from a cost per head perspective as we think about, you know, 2026.
Steven Wieczynski: Okay, gotcha. Thanks for that. Second question, I guess, is we kind of, you obviously kind of helped us a lot with the revenue side of the equation, but, you know, Rick, maybe if you could kind of walk us through how you're thinking about kind of cost for this year. Anything from, you know, from a cadence standpoint in terms of where costs would hit through the quarters? You know, obviously, I think you said, you know, EBITDA growth would be, you know, higher in the second half of the year, but just maybe, you know, maybe how you guys are, what you're targeting from a, you know, from a cost per head perspective as we think about, you know, 2026.
Speaker #3: Yeah, I think there are a few major pieces moving around. The first is the employee retention tax credits that we are lapping year over year.
Rick Goldberg: Yeah, I think there are a few major pieces moving around. The first is the employee retention tax credits that we are lapping year-over-year, the majority of which hit in Q2 of 2025. Obviously, we have the step up in National Geographic royalties, as well as the cost innovation initiatives. The other big thing for us always is dry docks and wet docks and where those fall in the year, and we're never trying to optimize necessarily just to hit certain quarters. What we're trying to do is thinking holistically about where is the best place and time for us to take those dry and wet docks in order to maximize revenue and EBITDA for the year. Those dry and wet docks costs will be weighted toward Q1 and Q4 in this year.
Rick Goldberg: Yeah, I think there are a few major pieces moving around. The first is the employee retention tax credits that we are lapping year-over-year, the majority of which hit in Q2 of 2025. Obviously, we have the step up in National Geographic royalties, as well as the cost innovation initiatives. The other big thing for us always is dry docks and wet docks and where those fall in the year, and we're never trying to optimize necessarily just to hit certain quarters. What we're trying to do is thinking holistically about where is the best place and time for us to take those dry and wet docks in order to maximize revenue and EBITDA for the year. Those dry and wet docks costs will be weighted toward Q1 and Q4 in this year.
Speaker #3: The majority of which hit in Q2 of 2025. Obviously, we have the step-up in National Geographic royalties, as well as the cost innovation initiatives.
Speaker #3: The other big thing for us always is dry docks and wet docks and where those fall in the year. And we're never trying to optimize necessarily just to hit certain quarters.
Speaker #3: What we're trying to do is thinking holistically about where is the best place and time for us to take those dry and wet docks in order to maximize revenue and EBITDA for the year.
Speaker #3: But those dry and wet docks costs will be weighted toward Q1 and Q4 in this year.
Speaker #5: Okay. Gotcha. Thanks, guys. Really appreciate it.
Steven Wieczynski: Okay, gotcha. Thanks, guys, really appreciate it.
Steven Wieczynski: Okay, gotcha. Thanks, guys, really appreciate it.
Speaker #3: Thanks so much, Steve.
Rick Goldberg: Thanks so much, Steve.
Rick Goldberg: Thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker #2: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wold with the Texas Capital Securities. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wold with the Texas Capital Securities. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wold with the Texas Capital Securities. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thanks. Good morning, both of you. Appreciate taking the time. Two questions. So I guess first, kind of as you think about the guidance for 2026, you kind of gave great color on bookings or how much has been booked relative to '25 at this point.
Eric Wold: Thanks. Good morning, both of you. Appreciate taking the time. Two questions. I guess first, kind of as you think about the guidance for 2026, you kind of gave great color on bookings or kind of how much has been booked relative to 2025 at this point. Give me a sense of how pricing is looking within kind of the 2026 bookings. Similarly, as you kind of, you know, talk about 2027, any kind of embedded price increases or how pricing is shaping up in 2027 versus 2026 as well?
Eric Wold: Thanks. Good morning, both of you. Appreciate taking the time. Two questions. I guess first, kind of as you think about the guidance for 2026, you kind of gave great color on bookings or kind of how much has been booked relative to 2025 at this point. Give me a sense of how pricing is looking within kind of the 2026 bookings. Similarly, as you kind of, you know, talk about 2027, any kind of embedded price increases or how pricing is shaping up in 2027 versus 2026 as well?
Speaker #5: Can you give us a sense of how pricing is looking within kind of the 2026 bookings? And similarly, as you kind of talk about '27, any kind of embedded price increases or how pricing is shaping up in '27 versus '26 as well?
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Natalya Leahy: Eric, great question. I mean, we continue to see, as we mentioned, we continue to see momentum both in 2026 and 2027 across both segments, land and expedition. If you look at the market in general, we very much maintain strong price integrity across all our products. Our demand all-time highs for core destinations like Galápagos, Antarctica, Alaska. We are very much expanding a booking curve. If any message to the guests, we say book earlier, our 2027 booking curves is ahead of 2026 by literally months. That allows us to drive price elasticity and maintain pricing momentum on both years.
Natalya Leahy: Eric, great question. I mean, we continue to see, as we mentioned, we continue to see momentum both in 2026 and 2027 across both segments, land and expedition. If you look at the market in general, we very much maintain strong price integrity across all our products. Our demand all-time highs for core destinations like Galápagos, Antarctica, Alaska. We are very much expanding a booking curve. If any message to the guests, we say book earlier, our 2027 booking curves is ahead of 2026 by literally months. That allows us to drive price elasticity and maintain pricing momentum on both years.
Speaker #4: Eric, great question. I mean, as we mentioned, we continue to see momentum both in '26 and '27 across both segments, Land and Expedition.
Speaker #4: If you look at the market in general, we very much maintain strong price integrity across all our products. Our demand all-time highs for core destinations like Galapagos, Antarctica, Alaska, we are very much expanding a booking curve.
Speaker #4: And if any message to the guests, we say book earlier. Our '27 booking curves is ahead of '26 by literally months. So that allows us to drive price elasticity and maintain pricing momentum on both years.
Speaker #5: Perfect. And then follow-up question, I guess, second question, any plans to expand the fleet with new builds at this point? I think as we get closer to pre-pandemic, post above 90% occupancy, on a larger fleet than you had pre-pandemic.
Eric Wold: Perfect. A follow-up question, I guess, second question: Any plans to expand, you know, the fleet with new builds at this point? I think as you get closer to pre-pandemic, you know, close above 90% occupancy, you know, on a larger fleet than you had pre-pandemic, and kind of get more visibility into that, obviously, you're seeing strength into 2027 or 2026. When does it become the right time to start thinking about, you know, ordering a new ship? What does the backlog look like if you were to place an order today for a ship that you would want? What is the timeframe for delivery?
Eric Wold: Perfect. A follow-up question, I guess, second question: Any plans to expand, you know, the fleet with new builds at this point? I think as you get closer to pre-pandemic, you know, close above 90% occupancy, you know, on a larger fleet than you had pre-pandemic, and kind of get more visibility into that, obviously, you're seeing strength into 2027 or 2026. When does it become the right time to start thinking about, you know, ordering a new ship? What does the backlog look like if you were to place an order today for a ship that you would want? What is the timeframe for delivery?
Speaker #5: And kind of get more visibility into that. Obviously, you're seeing strength in the '27 or '26. When does it become the right time to start thinking about ordering a new ship?
Speaker #5: And what does the backlog look like if you were to place an order today for a ship that you would want? What is the timeframe for delivery?
Speaker #4: Yeah. I mean, the right time to grow capacity for us is now. That's a short answer. And by the way, we've been doing it.
Natalya Leahy: Yeah, I mean, the right time to grow capacity for us is now. That's the short answer, and by the way, we've been doing it. This, in 2025, as you know, we added 2 more ships in Galápagos, as we talked about. We also have been growing capacity through additional charters. For example, 2027, Alaska capacity is increased by 12% by both optimizing our deployment but also adding Greg Mortimer because we see strong demand. This year, as you know, we added European river charters, we expanded our charters in Asia. We continue to do that now, in addition to optimizing our deployment and reducing non-revenue days. We are looking at acquisitions of the ships on new builds, actively. There is nothing to announce yet. Pipeline, if we were to go new build route, is approximately four years.
Natalya Leahy: Yeah, I mean, the right time to grow capacity for us is now. That's the short answer, and by the way, we've been doing it. This, in 2025, as you know, we added 2 more ships in Galápagos, as we talked about. We also have been growing capacity through additional charters. For example, 2027, Alaska capacity is increased by 12% by both optimizing our deployment but also adding Greg Mortimer because we see strong demand. This year, as you know, we added European river charters, we expanded our charters in Asia. We continue to do that now, in addition to optimizing our deployment and reducing non-revenue days. We are looking at acquisitions of the ships on new builds, actively. There is nothing to announce yet. Pipeline, if we were to go new build route, is approximately four years.
Speaker #4: So this in '25, as you know, we added two more ships in Galapagos, as we talked about. We also have been growing capacity through additional charters.
Speaker #4: For example, '27 Alaska capacity is increased by 12% by both optimizing our deployment, but also adding rank Mortimer because we see strong demand this year, as you know, we added European river charters.
Speaker #4: We expanded our charters in Asia. So we continue to do that now in addition to optimizing our deployment and reducing non-revenue days. We are looking at acquisitions of the ships on new builds.
Speaker #4: Actively, there is nothing to announce yet. But pipeline, if we were to go new build route, is approximately four years.
Speaker #5: Perfect. Thank you, Talia.
David Brown: Perfect. Thank you, Tanya.
Eric Wold: Perfect. Thank you, Tanya.
Speaker #2: Question comes from the line of Mike Albanese with the StoneX. Please go ahead.
Operator: Question comes from the line of Mike Albanese with StoneX. Please go ahead.
Operator: Question comes from the line of Mike Albanese with StoneX. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple of quick ones. First, regarding bookings, you provided nice color there. I'm just trying to get a sense of seasonal cadence.
Mike Albanese: Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple quick ones. First, regarding bookings, you know, you provided nice color there. I'm just trying to get a sense of seasonal cadence. You know, is booking activity usually pretty stacked here in Q1? I guess I'm trying to get a sense on, you know, whether we can kind of expect that momentum to continue to build throughout the year, or does it generally kind of tail off as the year goes?
Mike Albanese: Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple quick ones. First, regarding bookings, you know, you provided nice color there. I'm just trying to get a sense of seasonal cadence. You know, is booking activity usually pretty stacked here in Q1? I guess I'm trying to get a sense on, you know, whether we can kind of expect that momentum to continue to build throughout the year, or does it generally kind of tail off as the year goes?
Speaker #6: Is booking activity usually pretty stacked here in Q1? I guess I'm trying to get a sense on whether we can kind of expect that momentum to continue to build throughout the year, or is it generally kind of tail off as the year goes?
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Speaker #4: Well, there is we did just complete the record wave and this is a time where there are a lot of bookings done and that's just coming to completion.
Natalya Leahy: Well, we did just complete the record wave, this is a time-
Natalya Leahy: Well, we did just complete the record wave, this is a time-
Mike Albanese: Mm-hmm.
Mike Albanese: Mm-hmm.
Natalya Leahy: where there are a lot of bookings done, and that's just coming to completion. I think this, we've had to extend it by a week or so. But generally, our business sees, Mike, bookings throughout the year at a pretty consistent level because we operate in destinations like Galápagos year-round. We're completing the wave now, but people are still booking for the summer vacation and start really planning next winter and spring. There is not a significant booking seasonality in the business. There is obviously seasonality in revenue stream, as you know.
Natalya Leahy: where there are a lot of bookings done, and that's just coming to completion. I think this, we've had to extend it by a week or so. But generally, our business sees, Mike, bookings throughout the year at a pretty consistent level because we operate in destinations like Galápagos year-round. We're completing the wave now, but people are still booking for the summer vacation and start really planning next winter and spring. There is not a significant booking seasonality in the business. There is obviously seasonality in revenue stream, as you know.
Speaker #4: I think we had to extend it by a week or so. But generally, our businesses make bookings throughout the year at a pretty consistent level because we operate in destinations like Galapagos, year-round.
Speaker #4: So we're completing the wave now, but people are still booking for the summer vacation and start really planning next winter and spring. The reason not a significant booking seasonality in a business.
Speaker #4: There is obviously seasonality in revenue stream, as you know, and Q3, Q4 are generally very, very accretive because of Antarctica and Alaska season. But bookings are relatively consistent throughout the year.
Mike Albanese: Yeah.
Mike Albanese: Yeah.
Natalya Leahy: Q3, Q4 are generally very, very accretive because of Antarctica and Alaska season. Bookings are relatively consistent throughout the year. We do see an expanded booking curve, which is a great thing for us to see, and we've been intentionally driving it. 27 booking cycle out of 26 booking cycle out of 25, and that allows us to drive pricing LCCGM and booking momentum.
Natalya Leahy: Q3, Q4 are generally very, very accretive because of Antarctica and Alaska season. Bookings are relatively consistent throughout the year. We do see an expanded booking curve, which is a great thing for us to see, and we've been intentionally driving it. 27 booking cycle out of 26 booking cycle out of 25, and that allows us to drive pricing LCCGM and booking momentum.
Speaker #4: We do see an expanded booking curve, which is a great thing for us to see, and we've been intentionally driving it. So '27 bookings, I had of '26, '26 bookings, I had of '25, and that allows us to drive pricing elasticity and booking momentum.
Speaker #5: Awesome. That's great context. Thank you. Nice job. And then secondly, I just wanted to touch on some of the momentum you're seeing in online bookings here.
Mike Albanese: Awesome. That's great context. Thank you. Nice job. Secondly, just wanted to touch on some of the momentum you're seeing in online bookings here. You obviously have a few initiatives, you know, marketing, expansion of the National Geographic relationship. Could you just talk about kind of the key drivers to the 50% plus growth? Second to that is, you know, there's an initiative you have to basically grow international bookings, and you just came back from the UK. I mean, are we seeing a lift from that yet in these numbers, or is that still kind of, you know, yet to come?
Mike Albanese: Awesome. That's great context. Thank you. Nice job. Secondly, just wanted to touch on some of the momentum you're seeing in online bookings here. You obviously have a few initiatives, you know, marketing, expansion of the National Geographic relationship. Could you just talk about kind of the key drivers to the 50% plus growth? Second to that is, you know, there's an initiative you have to basically grow international bookings, and you just came back from the UK. I mean, are we seeing a lift from that yet in these numbers, or is that still kind of, you know, yet to come?
Speaker #5: You obviously have a few initiatives. Marketing, expansion of the National Geographic relationship. Could you just talk about kind of the key drivers to the 50% plus growth?
Speaker #5: And then second to that is there's an initiative you have to basically grow international bookings and you just came back from the UK. I mean, are we seeing a lift from that yet in these numbers, or is that still kind of yet to come?
Speaker #4: So there are two good questions. The web platform is obviously very, very accretive platform for us. So we are very pleased with the progress there.
Natalya Leahy: There are two good questions. The web platform is obviously a very, very accretive platform for us, so we're very pleased with the progress there. I think it's like Rick mentioned, it's driven by two major initiatives. One is we actually did a number of updates with our web platform. We completely changed our platform, but we also enhanced our search engine capabilities there, the booking capabilities, the way the web platform flows and allows higher lead generation. Of course, our partnership with National Geographic, Disney, is driving more leads to our website. Those are the two major drivers of increased web platform bookings. Question on international markets, when we launched our brand in UK market last May, we are very committed to that market, and we are finally seeing a very real booking momentum.
Natalya Leahy: There are two good questions. The web platform is obviously a very, very accretive platform for us, so we're very pleased with the progress there. I think it's like Rick mentioned, it's driven by two major initiatives. One is we actually did a number of updates with our web platform. We completely changed our platform, but we also enhanced our search engine capabilities there, the booking capabilities, the way the web platform flows and allows higher lead generation. Of course, our partnership with National Geographic, Disney, is driving more leads to our website. Those are the two major drivers of increased web platform bookings. Question on international markets, when we launched our brand in UK market last May, we are very committed to that market, and we are finally seeing a very real booking momentum.
Speaker #4: And I think it's like Rick mentioned, it's driven by two major initiatives. One is we actually did a number of updates of our web platform.
Speaker #4: We completely changed our platform, but we also enhanced our search engine capabilities there. The booking capabilities. The way that web platform flows and allows higher lead generation.
Speaker #4: And then, of course, our partnership with National Geographic, Disney, is driving more leads to our website. So those are the two major drivers of increased web platform bookings.
Speaker #4: Question on international markets, we launched our brand in UK market last May. We are very committed to that market, and we are finally seeing a very real booking momentum.
Speaker #4: As I mentioned in the first six weeks of this year, we already booked almost half of total 2025 annual revenue. So we will continue to be committed to that market, and we also plan to expand our efforts in Australia.
Natalya Leahy: As I mentioned, in the first 6 weeks of this year, we already booked almost half of total 2025 annual revenue. We will continue to be committed to that market, and we also plan to expand our efforts in Australia.
Natalya Leahy: As I mentioned, in the first 6 weeks of this year, we already booked almost half of total 2025 annual revenue. We will continue to be committed to that market, and we also plan to expand our efforts in Australia.
Speaker #5: Awesome. Thanks for the time, guys.
Mike Albanese: Awesome. Thanks for the time, guys.
Mike Albanese: Awesome. Thanks for the time, guys.
Speaker #4: All right. Well, before you go to the next question, I did want to clarify, I think, question from Eric before on a new build.
Natalya Leahy: All right. Well, before you go to next question, I did want to clarify, I think, question from Eric before on the new build. There was a... If we were to go a new build pipeline, I mentioned it's a 4 years pipeline approximately. Just a reminder, in this industry, as you know, you start publishing destinations around 3 years ahead, you start selling cycle about 3, 2 and a half years ahead of actually delivering the ship, which drives an increased deposits before you pay for the new build. I think it's just an important clarification I thought to share. Bella, back to you.
Natalya Leahy: All right. Well, before you go to next question, I did want to clarify, I think, question from Eric before on the new build. There was a... If we were to go a new build pipeline, I mentioned it's a 4 years pipeline approximately. Just a reminder, in this industry, as you know, you start publishing destinations around 3 years ahead, you start selling cycle about 3, 2 and a half years ahead of actually delivering the ship, which drives an increased deposits before you pay for the new build. I think it's just an important clarification I thought to share. Bella, back to you.
Speaker #4: There was a if we were to go a new build pipeline, I mentioned it's a four-year pipeline, approximately, but just a reminder in this industry, as you know, you start publishing destinations around three years ahead.
Speaker #4: And so you start selling cycle about three, two and a half years ahead of actually delivering the ship, which drives an increased deposits before you pay for the new build.
Speaker #4: So I think it's just an important clarification, I thought, to share. Well, back to you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Your last question comes from the line of Eric. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your last question comes from the line of Eric Julliar with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your last question comes from the line of Eric Julliar with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on a very strong year. As you look to add capacity, you just brought it to nice color on new builds.
Eric Julliar: Great, thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a very strong year. As you look to add capacity, you know, you just provided some nice color on new builds. In terms of, you know, acquiring vessels or signing charter partnerships, acquiring new land-based experiences, can you kind of talk about the competitive environment around those right now? Are you seeing, you know, the number or quality of bidders either increase or decrease? Just, you know, any kind of commentary on the overall competitive landscape when it comes to acquiring new vessels and experiences?
Eric Julliar: Great, thanks for taking my question. Congrats on a very strong year. As you look to add capacity, you know, you just provided some nice color on new builds. In terms of, you know, acquiring vessels or signing charter partnerships, acquiring new land-based experiences, can you kind of talk about the competitive environment around those right now? Are you seeing, you know, the number or quality of bidders either increase or decrease? Just, you know, any kind of commentary on the overall competitive landscape when it comes to acquiring new vessels and experiences?
Speaker #5: In terms of acquiring vessels or signing charter partnerships, acquiring new land-based experiences, can you kind of talk about the competitive environment around those right now?
Speaker #5: Are you seeing the number or quality of bidders either increase or decrease? Just any kind of commentary on the overall competitive landscape when it comes to acquiring new vessels and experiences?
Speaker #6: I mean, I think that when it comes to acquiring new vessels and experiences, it's less about competition and just what's available in the marketplace.
Rick Goldberg: I mean, I think that when it comes to acquiring new vessels and experiences, it's less about competition and just what's available in the marketplace. You know, we're constantly looking for opportunities to acquire vessels that meet our standards for our guest experiences. But the reality is, you know, there aren't a lot of vessels that meet those criteria, and certainly not available in the marketplace today. Similarly, in terms of Land Experiences, I think that for many of these founder-led businesses, we are the preferred buyer, given our commitment, in terms of what we believe in, responsible exploration, as well as how we've worked so effectively with the founders who have come on board as part of the broader Lindblad family over the course of the last decade.
Rick Goldberg: I mean, I think that when it comes to acquiring new vessels and experiences, it's less about competition and just what's available in the marketplace. You know, we're constantly looking for opportunities to acquire vessels that meet our standards for our guest experiences. But the reality is, you know, there aren't a lot of vessels that meet those criteria, and certainly not available in the marketplace today. Similarly, in terms of Land Experiences, I think that for many of these founder-led businesses, we are the preferred buyer, given our commitment, in terms of what we believe in, responsible exploration, as well as how we've worked so effectively with the founders who have come on board as part of the broader Lindblad family over the course of the last decade.
Speaker #6: And so we're constantly looking for opportunities to acquire vessels that meet our standards for our guest experiences. But the reality is there aren't a lot of vessels that meet those criteria.
Speaker #6: And certainly not available in the marketplace today. And then similarly, in terms of land experiences, I think that for many of these founder-led businesses, we are the preferred buyer given our commitment in terms of what we believe in, responsible exploration, as well as how we've worked so effectively with the founders who have come on board as part of the broader Lindblad family over the course of the last decade.
Speaker #6: However, it's really about sourcing opportunities that are unique to us, more so than competing with other folks who are out there who are trying to buy similar businesses.
Rick Goldberg: However, you know, it's really about sourcing opportunities that are unique to us, more so than competing with other folks who are out there who are trying to buy similar businesses.
Rick Goldberg: However, you know, it's really about sourcing opportunities that are unique to us, more so than competing with other folks who are out there who are trying to buy similar businesses.
Speaker #5: That's helpful. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats again.
David Brown: That's helpful. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats again.
Eric Julliar: That's helpful. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats again.
Operator: That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Rick Goldberg, Chief Financial Officer, for closing remarks.
Operator: That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Rick Goldberg, Chief Financial Officer, for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Rick Goldberg, Chief Financial Officer for closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Just want to thank everyone for your continued support and interest in Lindblad Expeditions and to our team on a really strong 2025. And we remain very excited about the year ahead.
Rick Goldberg: Just want to thank everyone for your continued support and interest in Lindblad Expeditions and to our team on a really strong 2025, and we remain very excited about the year ahead. Thanks so much, everyone. Bye.
Rick Goldberg: Just want to thank everyone for your continued support and interest in Lindblad Expeditions and to our team on a really strong 2025, and we remain very excited about the year ahead. Thanks so much, everyone. Bye.
Speaker #6: Thanks so much, everyone. Bye.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.