Q4 2025 OraSure Technologies Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OraSure Technologies, Inc. 2025 Q4 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker for today, Scott Gleason, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OraSure Technologies, Inc. 2025 Q4 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker for today, Scott Gleason, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OraSure Technologies 2025 fourth-quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants in the listen-only mode.
Speaker #1: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone.
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Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker for today, Jason Plagman, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon, and welcome to OraSure Technologies' fourth-quarter 2025 earnings call. Participating in the call today for OTI are Carrie Eglinton Manner, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ken McGrath, our Chief Financial Officer.
Scott Gleason: Good afternoon. Welcome to OraSure Technologies' Q4 2025 Earnings Call. Participating in the call today for OTI are Carrie Eglinton Manner, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ken McGrath, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's webcast is being recorded, and the recording can be found on our investor relations website. Before we begin, you should know that this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements with respect to revenues, expenses, profitability, earnings or loss per share, and other financial performance, product development, performance, shipments and markets, business plans, regulatory filings and approvals, expectations, and strategies. Actual results could be significantly different. Factors that could affect results are discussed more fully in OTI's SEC filings, its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2024, its quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and its other SEC filings.
Scott Gleason: Good afternoon. Welcome to OraSure Technologies' Q4 2025 Earnings Call. Participating in the call today for OTI are Carrie Eglinton Manner, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ken McGrath, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's webcast is being recorded, and the recording can be found on our investor relations website. Before we begin, you should know that this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements with respect to revenues, expenses, profitability, earnings or loss per share, and other financial performance, product development, performance, shipments and markets, business plans, regulatory filings and approvals, expectations, and strategies. Actual results could be significantly different. Factors that could affect results are discussed more fully in OTI's SEC filings, its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2024, its quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and its other SEC filings.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, today's webcast is being recorded, and the recording can be found on our Investor Relations website. Before we begin, you should know that this call may contain certain to revenues, expenses, profitability, earnings or loss per share, and other financial performance.
Speaker #2: Product development performance shipments and markets, business plans, regulatory filings and approvals, expectations and strategies. Actual results could be significantly different. Factors that could affect results are discussed more fully in OTI's SEC filings; its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024; its quarterly reports on Form 10-Q; and its other SEC filings.
Speaker #2: Although forward-looking statements help to provide more complete information about future prospects, listeners should keep in mind that forward-looking statements are based solely on information available to management as of today.
Scott Gleason: Although forward-looking statements help to provide more complete information about future prospects, listeners should keep in mind that forward-looking statements are based solely on information available to management as of today. OTI undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after this call. With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Carey.
Scott Gleason: Although forward-looking statements help to provide more complete information about future prospects, listeners should keep in mind that forward-looking statements are based solely on information available to management as of today. OTI undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after this call. With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Carrie.
Speaker #2: OTI undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after this call. With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Carrie.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Jason, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. I'll discuss some highlights from Q4 and our key priorities for 2026 and beyond.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Scott, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. I'll discuss some highlights from Q4 and our key priorities for 2026 and beyond. As we discussed previously, 2025 was a transition year, and we supported our customers in navigating a challenging and uncertain funding environment. As we enter 2026, we are seeing increasing signs of stability in key segments, including improved visibility to funding for important testing and research programs. We are excited by several near-term catalysts for growth, including our two product launches planned for midyear. One, our rapid molecular self-test for chlamydia and gonorrhea, also known as CT/NG, and two, our Colli-Pee at-home urine collection device for sexually transmitted infections.
Carrie Manner: Thanks, Scott, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. I'll discuss some highlights from Q4 and our key priorities for 2026 and beyond. As we discussed previously, 2025 was a transition year, and we supported our customers in navigating a challenging and uncertain funding environment. As we enter 2026, we are seeing increasing signs of stability in key segments, including improved visibility to funding for important testing and research programs. We are excited by several near-term catalysts for growth, including our two product launches planned for midyear. One, our rapid molecular self-test for chlamydia and gonorrhea, also known as CT/NG, and two, our Colli-Pee at-home urine collection device for sexually transmitted infections.
Speaker #3: As we discussed previously, 2025 was a transition year, and we supported our customers in navigating a challenging and uncertain funding environment. As we enter 2026, we are seeing increasing signs of stability in key segments.
Speaker #3: Including improved visibility to funding for important testing and research programs, and we are excited by several near-term catalysts for growth, including our two product launches planned for mid-year.
Speaker #3: One, our rapid molecular self-test for chlamydia and gonorrhea, also known as ctNG. And two, our ColiP at-home urine collection device for sexually transmitted infections.
Speaker #3: Our submissions of these two separate applications to the US FDA in December represent significant milestones on our innovation roadmap, as we move into the next phase of our multi-year strategic transformation to deliver profitable growth and to create value for our customers and shareholders.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Our submission of these 2 separate applications to the US FDA in December represents significant milestones on our innovation roadmap as we move into the next phase of our multiyear strategic transformation to deliver profitable growth and to create value for our customers and shareholders. Looking at our Q4 results, total revenue was $26.8 million, and core revenue was $26.7 million, which was above the midpoint of our guidance range. In our international diagnostics business, order trends are stabilizing as national health programs adapt to revised funding structures, including framework agreements that have been signed between the US and more than a dozen countries in Africa that incentivize greater levels of local investment in order to build more resilient and durable health systems.
Carrie Manner: Our submission of these 2 separate applications to the US FDA in December represents significant milestones on our innovation roadmap as we move into the next phase of our multiyear strategic transformation to deliver profitable growth and to create value for our customers and shareholders. Looking at our Q4 results, total revenue was $26.8 million, and core revenue was $26.7 million, which was above the midpoint of our guidance range. In our international diagnostics business, order trends are stabilizing as national health programs adapt to revised funding structures, including framework agreements that have been signed between the US and more than a dozen countries in Africa that incentivize greater levels of local investment in order to build more resilient and durable health systems.
Speaker #3: Looking at our Q4 results, total revenue was $26.8 million and core revenue was $26.7 million. Which was above the midpoint of our guidance range.
Speaker #3: In our international diagnostics business, order trends are stabilizing as national health programs adapt to revised funding structures, including framework agreements that have been signed between the US and more than a dozen countries in Africa that incentivize greater levels of local investment in order to build more resilient and durable health systems.
Speaker #3: To that end, we are well underway establishing closer relationships with some of our existing distribution partners in Africa, including their in-country value-added assembly and manufacturing.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: To that end, we are well underway establishing closer relationships with some of our existing distribution partners in Africa, including their in-country value-added assembly and manufacturing, also known as nearshoring. We believe that this trend represents an important opportunity in rebuilding health program momentum in countries around the globe and expect these expanded local relationships in Africa to begin to contribute revenue in Q1 and throughout 2026. We also expanded OTI's presence in Canada with the recent launch of our OraQuick HIV self-test, following its receipt of a license from Health Canada. This test is Canada's first oral HIV self-test, and we are excited to work with St. Michael's Hospital, Unity Health Toronto, as the exclusive distributor of this test in Canada. Continuing with our international business, our integration of BioMedomics is off to a good start following the close of the acquisition in November.
Carrie Manner: To that end, we are well underway establishing closer relationships with some of our existing distribution partners in Africa, including their in-country value-added assembly and manufacturing, also known as nearshoring. We believe that this trend represents an important opportunity in rebuilding health program momentum in countries around the globe and expect these expanded local relationships in Africa to begin to contribute revenue in Q1 and throughout 2026. We also expanded OTI's presence in Canada with the recent launch of our OraQuick HIV self-test, following its receipt of a license from Health Canada. This test is Canada's first oral HIV self-test, and we are excited to work with St. Michael's Hospital, Unity Health Toronto, as the exclusive distributor of this test in Canada. Continuing with our international business, our integration of BioMedomics is off to a good start following the close of the acquisition in November.
Speaker #3: Also known as nearshoring, we believe that this trend represents an important opportunity in rebuilding health program momentum in countries around the globe, and expect these expanded local relationships in Africa to begin to contribute revenue in Q1 and throughout 2026.
Speaker #3: We also expanded OTI's presence in Canada with the recent launch of our OraQuick HIV self-test, following its receipt of a license from Health Canada.
Speaker #3: This test is Canada's first oral HIV self-test, and we are excited to work with St. Michael's Hospital Unity Health Toronto as the exclusive distributor of this test in Canada.
Speaker #3: Continuing with our international business, our integration of biomimetics is off to a good start following the close of the acquisition in November. We are seeing strong demand from existing customers for the sickle scan test, which is a rapid point-of-need test for sickle cell disease, or SCD.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We are seeing strong demand from existing customers for the SickleSCAN test, which is a rapid point-of-need test for sickle cell disease, or SCD. Our team is also building momentum with our initiatives to expand the reach and adoption of SickleSCAN by leveraging our international sales channels and our existing relationships with national health programs, particularly in Africa, where more than 385,000 babies are born each year with SCD, as well as in Latin America, with its moderately high incidence of SCD and lack of newborn screening programs. In our US diagnostics business, demand for our rapid tests from public health customers is stabilizing as those organizations adapt to the current funding environment at the federal and state level.
Carrie Manner: We are seeing strong demand from existing customers for the SickleSCAN test, which is a rapid point-of-need test for sickle cell disease, or SCD. Our team is also building momentum with our initiatives to expand the reach and adoption of SickleSCAN by leveraging our international sales channels and our existing relationships with national health programs, particularly in Africa, where more than 385,000 babies are born each year with SCD, as well as in Latin America, with its moderately high incidence of SCD and lack of newborn screening programs. In our US diagnostics business, demand for our rapid tests from public health customers is stabilizing as those organizations adapt to the current funding environment at the federal and state level.
Speaker #3: Our team is also building momentum with our initiatives to expand the reach and adoption of sickle scan by leveraging our international sales channels and our existing relationships with national health programs.
Speaker #3: Particularly in Africa, where more than 385,000 babies are born each year, with SCD. As well as in Latin America, with its moderately high incidence of SCD and lack of newborn screening programs.
Speaker #3: In our US diagnostics business, demand for our rapid tests from public health customers is stabilizing, as those organizations adapt to the current funding environment at the federal and state level.
Speaker #3: We are also seeing consistent demand for our over-the-counter HIV self-tests from telehealth and direct-to-consumer online platforms that want to offer a reliable, FDA-approved self-test that is authorized for use with oral fluid and is designed to meet the needs of individuals who wish to test themselves privately and painlessly at home.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We are also seeing consistent demand for our over-the-counter HIV self-test from telehealth and direct-to-consumer online platforms that want to offer a reliable, FDA-approved self-test that is authorized for use with oral fluid and is designed to meet the needs of individuals who wish to test themselves privately and painlessly at home. Switching gears to sample management. We remain confident that the sample management business is positioned to deliver growth in 2026 and beyond, as genomic end segments continue to stabilize and gradually return to stronger growth, driven by clinical adoption of precision medicine. We also anticipate modest contributions to SMS revenue growth from the academic and government segments, as NIH funding returns to a more regular cadence from international markets and from progress with our blood proteomic solution that we launched in mid-2025.
Carrie Manner: We are also seeing consistent demand for our over-the-counter HIV self-test from telehealth and direct-to-consumer online platforms that want to offer a reliable, FDA-approved self-test that is authorized for use with oral fluid and is designed to meet the needs of individuals who wish to test themselves privately and painlessly at home. Switching gears to sample management. We remain confident that the sample management business is positioned to deliver growth in 2026 and beyond, as genomic end segments continue to stabilize and gradually return to stronger growth, driven by clinical adoption of precision medicine. We also anticipate modest contributions to SMS revenue growth from the academic and government segments, as NIH funding returns to a more regular cadence from international markets and from progress with our blood proteomic solution that we launched in mid-2025.
Speaker #3: Switching gears to sample management, we remain confident that the sample management business is positioned to deliver growth in 2026 and beyond, as genomic end segments continue to stabilize and gradually return to stronger growth, driven by clinical adoption of precision medicine.
Speaker #3: We also anticipate modest contributions to SMS revenue growth from the academic and government segments, as NIH funding returns to a more regular cadence, from international markets, and from progress with our blood proteomic solution that we launched in mid-2025.
Speaker #3: Next, I'll transition to our innovation and product pipeline. Which includes several important near-term catalysts for growth in attractive markets. As well as our pipeline of earlier-stage opportunities in high-value growth markets that we discussed last quarter.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Next, I'll transition to our innovation and product pipeline, which includes several important near-term catalysts for growth in attractive markets, as well as our pipeline of earlier-stage opportunities in high-value growth markets that we discussed last quarter. Starting with Sherlock, we submitted a rapid molecular self-test for CT/NG to the FDA in late December. As we've discussed previously, OTI's rapid self-test for CT/NG is built on the Sherlock molecular diagnostics platform and is designed to provide results in approximately 30 minutes in a disposable, over-the-counter format. The test uses a self-selected swab, and results are intended to be read directly on the handheld testing device without the need for an electrical connection, enhancing accessibility and ease of use. OTI estimates that testing for CT/NG represents a total addressable market of more than $1.5 billion.
Carrie Manner: Next, I'll transition to our innovation and product pipeline, which includes several important near-term catalysts for growth in attractive markets, as well as our pipeline of earlier-stage opportunities in high-value growth markets that we discussed last quarter. Starting with Sherlock, we submitted a rapid molecular self-test for CT/NG to the FDA in late December. As we've discussed previously, OTI's rapid self-test for CT/NG is built on the Sherlock molecular diagnostics platform and is designed to provide results in approximately 30 minutes in a disposable, over-the-counter format. The test uses a self-selected swab, and results are intended to be read directly on the handheld testing device without the need for an electrical connection, enhancing accessibility and ease of use. OTI estimates that testing for CT/NG represents a total addressable market of more than $1.5 billion.
Speaker #3: Starting with Sherlock, we submitted our rapid molecular self-test for ctNG to the FDA in late December. As we've discussed previously, OTI's rapid self-test for ctNG is built on the Sherlock molecular diagnostics platform.
Speaker #3: And is designed to provide results in approximately 30 minutes in a disposable over-the-counter format. The test uses a self-selected swab, and results are intended to be read directly on the handheld testing device, without the need for an electrical connection, enhancing accessibility and ease of use.
Speaker #3: OTI estimates the testing for ctNG represents a total addressable market of more than $1.5 billion. Today, the vast majority of ctNG tests in the US are processed in centralized laboratories.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Today, the vast majority of CT/NG tests in the US are processed in centralized laboratories, creating an opportunity for meaningful market expansion through the introduction of a convenient, private, and affordable rapid self-test. Also in December, OTI submitted a separate application to the FDA for clearance of our Colli-Pee device for sexually transmitted infections, or STIs. The Colli-Pee device, which includes its proprietary stabilization chemistry, is designed for at-home urine collection and is aligned with patient preferences for private and convenient diagnostic testing. The submission covers multiple STI indications and is being pursued in collaboration with a leading diagnostics platform provider. Receipt of clearance for the Colli-Pee device for these indications would be in addition to the research use only product and is expected to expand access to testing while further strengthening OTI's leadership position in novel collection devices and chemistries.
Carrie Manner: Today, the vast majority of CT/NG tests in the US are processed in centralized laboratories, creating an opportunity for meaningful market expansion through the introduction of a convenient, private, and affordable rapid self-test. Also in December, OTI submitted a separate application to the FDA for clearance of our Colli-Pee device for sexually transmitted infections, or STIs. The Colli-Pee device, which includes its proprietary stabilization chemistry, is designed for at-home urine collection and is aligned with patient preferences for private and convenient diagnostic testing. The submission covers multiple STI indications and is being pursued in collaboration with a leading diagnostics platform provider. Receipt of clearance for the Colli-Pee device for these indications would be in addition to the research use only product and is expected to expand access to testing while further strengthening OTI's leadership position in novel collection devices and chemistries.
Speaker #3: Creating an opportunity for meaningful market expansion, through the introduction of a convenient private and affordable rapid self-test. Also in December, OTI submitted a separate application to the FDA for clearance of our COLIPI device for sexually transmitted infections, or STIs.
Speaker #3: The COLIPI device which includes its proprietary stabilization chemistry. Is designed for at-home urine collection and is aligned with patient preferences for private and convenient diagnostic testing.
Speaker #3: The submission covers multiple STI indications and is being pursued in collaboration with a leading diagnostics platform provider. Receipt of clearance for the COLIPI device for these indications would be in addition to the research use-only product and is expected to expand access to testing, while further strengthening OTI's leadership position in novel collection devices and chemistries.
Speaker #3: We anticipate that revenue from our product launches will ramp in the second half of the year. And these two submission milestones reflect meaningful progress on our innovation roadmap.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We anticipate that revenue from our product launches will ramp in the second half of the year. These two submission milestones reflect meaningful progress on our innovation roadmap and demonstrate how we are advancing our vision to help decentralize diagnostics and connect people to care that is more accessible, convenient, affordable, and private. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss our financial results and guidance.
Carrie Manner: We anticipate that revenue from our product launches will ramp in the second half of the year. These two submission milestones reflect meaningful progress on our innovation roadmap and demonstrate how we are advancing our vision to help decentralize diagnostics and connect people to care that is more accessible, convenient, affordable, and private. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss our financial results and guidance.
Speaker #3: And demonstrate how we are advancing our vision to help decentralized diagnostics and connect people to care that is more accessible, convenient, affordable, and private.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss our financial results and guidance.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Carrie. Total revenue in the fourth quarter was $26.8 million. Core revenue, which excludes COVID-19 products, was $26.7 million. Diagnostic products generated $15.1 million of revenue in Q4, and sample management solutions revenue was $9.1 million.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Thanks, Carrie. Total revenue in Q4 was $26.8 million. Core revenue, which excludes COVID-19 products, was $26.7 million. Diagnostic products generated $15.1 million of revenue in Q4, and sample management solutions revenue was $9.1 million, and both were consistent with our expectations. Our GAAP gross margin in Q4 was 41%, compared to 36.2% in Q4 2024, and non-GAAP gross margin was 41.4%, compared to 40.1% in Q4 2024. Looking at GAAP operating expenses in Q4, R&D expense was $11.4 million, sales and marketing expense was $6.6 million, and general administrative expense was $9.8 million.
Kenneth McGrath: Thanks, Carrie. Total revenue in Q4 was $26.8 million. Core revenue, which excludes COVID-19 products, was $26.7 million. Diagnostic products generated $15.1 million of revenue in Q4, and sample management solutions revenue was $9.1 million, and both were consistent with our expectations. Our GAAP gross margin in Q4 was 41%, compared to 36.2% in Q4 2024, and non-GAAP gross margin was 41.4%, compared to 40.1% in Q4 2024. Looking at GAAP operating expenses in Q4, R&D expense was $11.4 million, sales and marketing expense was $6.6 million, and general administrative expense was $9.8 million.
Speaker #1: And both were consistent with our expectations. Our gap gross margin in the fourth quarter was 41%, compared to 36.2% in Q4, 2024. And non-gap gross margin was 41.4%, compared to 40.1% in Q4, 2024.
Speaker #1: Looking at gap operating expenses in Q4, R&D expense was $11.4 million, sales and marketing expense was $6.6 million, and general administrative expense was $9.8 million.
Speaker #1: Non-cash stock compensation expense in the fourth quarter was $1.5 million. And depreciation and amortization expense was $2.4 million. Our gap operating loss in Q4 was $20.1 million.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Non-cash stock compensation expense in Q4 was $1.5 million. Depreciation and amortization expense was $2.4 million. Our GAAP operating loss in Q4 was $20.1 million, and our non-GAAP operating loss was $15.2 million. Moving to our balance sheet. We ended the year with zero debt and total cash and cash equivalents of $199 million. During Q4, we deployed $5 million to repurchase 1.9 million shares of our common stock. For the full year 2025, we returned $15 million of capital to shareholders through the repurchase of 5.3 million shares. Consistent with our balanced capital deployment strategy, we also continue to evaluate organic and inorganic opportunities that can accelerate our growth.
Kenneth McGrath: Non-cash stock compensation expense in Q4 was $1.5 million. Depreciation and amortization expense was $2.4 million. Our GAAP operating loss in Q4 was $20.1 million, and our non-GAAP operating loss was $15.2 million. Moving to our balance sheet. We ended the year with zero debt and total cash and cash equivalents of $199 million. During Q4, we deployed $5 million to repurchase 1.9 million shares of our common stock. For the full year 2025, we returned $15 million of capital to shareholders through the repurchase of 5.3 million shares. Consistent with our balanced capital deployment strategy, we also continue to evaluate organic and inorganic opportunities that can accelerate our growth.
Speaker #1: And our non-GAAP operating loss was $15.2 million. Moving to our balance sheet, we ended the year with zero debt and total cash and cash equivalents of $199 million.
Speaker #1: During the fourth quarter, we deployed $5 million to repurchase $1.9 million shares of our common stock. For the full year 2025, we returned $15 million of capital to shareholders through the repurchase of $5.3 million shares.
Speaker #1: Consistent with our balanced capital deployment strategy, we also continue to evaluate organic and inorganic opportunities that can accelerate our growth. As we discussed in November, we invested approximately $4 million during Q4 to acquire Biomedomics.
Kenneth J. McGrath: As we discussed in November, we invested approximately $4 million during Q4 to acquire BioMedomics in order to expand our portfolio of rapid diagnostic tests that we can sell to our international customers. Operating cash flow in Q4 was negative $9 million, which was consistent with our expectations, given our investments in the Sherlock platform, clinical trials for our molecular CT/NG test and Colli-Pee, and other innovation projects. We expect to return to breakeven from an operating cash flow standpoint as we enter 2027, driven by our expected return to revenue growth, including contributions from our anticipated product launches, as well as our continued focus on delivering incremental cost savings through operating efficiencies. For Q1, we are guiding to revenue of $26 million to $29 million, which includes a negligible amount of revenue for COVID-19 testing.
Kenneth McGrath: As we discussed in November, we invested approximately $4 million during Q4 to acquire BioMedomics in order to expand our portfolio of rapid diagnostic tests that we can sell to our international customers. Operating cash flow in Q4 was negative $9 million, which was consistent with our expectations, given our investments in the Sherlock platform, clinical trials for our molecular CT/NG test and Colli-Pee, and other innovation projects. We expect to return to breakeven from an operating cash flow standpoint as we enter 2027, driven by our expected return to revenue growth, including contributions from our anticipated product launches, as well as our continued focus on delivering incremental cost savings through operating efficiencies. For Q1, we are guiding to revenue of $26 million to $29 million, which includes a negligible amount of revenue for COVID-19 testing.
Speaker #1: In order to expand our portfolio of rapid diagnostic tests that we can sell to our international customers. Operating cash flow in the fourth quarter was negative $9 million.
Speaker #1: Which was consistent with our expectations given our investments in the Sherlock platform, clinical trials for our molecular ctNG test, and COLIPI. And other innovation projects.
Speaker #1: We expect to return to break-even from an operating cash flow standpoint as we enter 2027. Driven by our expected return to revenue growth, including contributions from our anticipated product launches, as well as our continued focus on delivering incremental cost savings through operating efficiencies.
Speaker #1: For the first quarter, we are guiding to revenue of $26 million to $29 million. Which includes a negligible amount of revenue for COVID-19 testing.
Speaker #1: We expect our gross margin in the first quarter to be in the low 40% range. On a sequential basis, we expect that our Q1 gross margin will improve slightly compared to Q4, 2025.
Kenneth J. McGrath: We expect our gross margin in Q1 to be in the low 40% range. On a sequential basis, we expect that our Q1 gross margin will improve slightly compared to Q4 2025. Overall, we remain focused on disciplined execution that aligns our organization and cost structure with our revenue growth and continued profitability improvement. Recently, we eliminated a number of non-production roles and continued to take actions that increase operating efficiencies, which are partially offset by targeted commercial investments supporting anticipated product launches, as well as one-time costs related to severance and other non-recurring items. With that, I'll turn the call back to Carrie to conclude.
Kenneth McGrath: We expect our gross margin in Q1 to be in the low 40% range. On a sequential basis, we expect that our Q1 gross margin will improve slightly compared to Q4 2025. Overall, we remain focused on disciplined execution that aligns our organization and cost structure with our revenue growth and continued profitability improvement. Recently, we eliminated a number of non-production roles and continued to take actions that increase operating efficiencies, which are partially offset by targeted commercial investments supporting anticipated product launches, as well as one-time costs related to severance and other non-recurring items. With that, I'll turn the call back to Carrie to conclude.
Speaker #1: Overall, we remain focused on disciplined execution that aligns our organization and cost structure with our revenue growth and continued profitability improvement. Recently, we eliminated a number of non-production roles and continue to take actions that increase operating efficiencies.
Speaker #1: Which are partially offset by targeted commercial investments supporting anticipated product launches. As well as one-time costs related to severance and other non-recurring items. With that, I'll turn the call back to Carrie to conclude.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ken. A year ago, we entered 2025 with the strength to withstand what turned out to be multiple external headwinds. And we are proud to have supported our customers in navigating that environment while we continue to invest in our future and further streamline our business.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Ken. A year ago, we entered 2025 with the strength to withstand what turned out to be multiple external headwinds, and we are proud to have supported our customers in navigating that environment while we continued to invest in our future and further streamlined our business. We made significant progress in advancing our innovation pipeline and ended the year with two major product submissions to the FDA. Now, here in 2026, we are already seeing signs of market stabilization, and we are also well positioned to capitalize on the growth opportunities that our near-term product roadmap can unlock. With that, I'm pleased to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Lisa?
Carrie Manner: Thanks, Ken. A year ago, we entered 2025 with the strength to withstand what turned out to be multiple external headwinds, and we are proud to have supported our customers in navigating that environment while we continued to invest in our future and further streamlined our business. We made significant progress in advancing our innovation pipeline and ended the year with two major product submissions to the FDA. Now, here in 2026, we are already seeing signs of market stabilization, and we are also well positioned to capitalize on the growth opportunities that our near-term product roadmap can unlock. With that, I'm pleased to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Lisa?
Speaker #2: We made significant progress in advancing our innovation pipeline. And ended the year with two major product submissions to the FDA. Now, here in 2026, we are already seeing signs of market stabilization.
Speaker #2: And we are also well positioned to capitalize on the growth opportunities that our near-term product roadmap can unlock. With that, I'm pleased to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.
Speaker #2: Lisa?
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Steven Etoch: Hey, good afternoon. Maybe just a couple from me. I appreciate all the color on the call. You know, given that you've submitted this application for Colli-Pee and the CT/NG test, I think on average, you were calling out roughly $7 to 8 million a quarter for R&D associated expenses. How should we anticipate R&D tapering off or continuing from here? Do you anticipate redeploying those funds towards other R&D efforts?
Steven Etoch: Hey, good afternoon. Maybe just a couple from me. I appreciate all the color on the call. You know, given that you've submitted this application for Colli-Pee and the CT/NG test, I think on average, you were calling out roughly $7 to 8 million a quarter for R&D associated expenses. How should we anticipate R&D tapering off or continuing from here? Do you anticipate redeploying those funds towards other R&D efforts?
Speaker #4: Hey, good afternoon. Maybe just a couple for me. I appreciate all the color on the call. Given that you've submitted this application for COLIPI and the ctNG test, I think on average you were calling out roughly 7 to 8 million dollars a quarter for R&D associated expenses.
Speaker #4: How should we anticipate R&D tapering off or continuing from here? And do you anticipate redeploying those funds towards other R&D efforts?
Speaker #1: Yeah, thanks, Mac. Good, great question. We are anticipating over the full year lower R&D expense for the full year. Referencing kind of what you talked about with clinical trials.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Yeah, thanks, Mac. Great question. We are anticipating over the full year, lower R&D expense for the full year, referencing kind of what you talked about with clinical trials. However, there is some continuation of clinical trials to capture some additional data that supports our performance claims in support of the launches. There will be some continuing in Q1, but we will see lower R&D throughout the year to reference to what you pointed out around clinical trial spend.
Kenneth McGrath: Yeah, thanks, Mac. Great question. We are anticipating over the full year, lower R&D expense for the full year, referencing kind of what you talked about with clinical trials. However, there is some continuation of clinical trials to capture some additional data that supports our performance claims in support of the launches. There will be some continuing in Q1, but we will see lower R&D throughout the year to reference to what you pointed out around clinical trial spend.
Speaker #1: However, there is some continuation of clinical trials to capture some additional data that supports our performance claims. In support of the launches. So there will be some continuing in Q1.
Speaker #1: But we will see lower R&D throughout the year. To reference to what you pointed out around clinical trial spend.
Speaker #4: I appreciate that. And then I think international HIV was a little bit more of a record in 2024 than slightly disrupted in 2025 due to the PEPFAR and USAID implementation issues.
Steven Etoch: Appreciate that. I think international HIV was, you know, a little bit more of a record in 2024 than slightly disrupted in 2025 due to the PEPFAR and USAID implementation issues. I just kind of want to get a clear picture of maybe the whether or not the ordering cadence has normalized at this point.
Steven Etoch: Appreciate that. I think international HIV was, you know, a little bit more of a record in 2024 than slightly disrupted in 2025 due to the PEPFAR and USAID implementation issues. I just kind of want to get a clear picture of maybe the whether or not the ordering cadence has normalized at this point.
Speaker #4: So I just kind of want to get a clear picture of maybe the whether or not the ordering cadence has normalized at this point.
Speaker #2: Yeah, you described the history 24 and 25 accurately. And what we are seeing is improved visibility to countries within Africa figuring out not only their funding, but also the implementation.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Yeah. You know, you described the history 2024 and 2025 accurately, and what we are seeing is improved visibility to, you know, countries within Africa, figuring out not only their funding, but also the implementation. You'll remember that, you know, in many cases, both the US and the countries themselves, said these are the most important tests to treat life-saving programs we have. We're totally committed, you know, to the testing and consumables we still have money for, but they had removed all of the people on the programs to implement them. What we're seeing is, you know, at least what we're looking at into the, you know, Q1, Q2, is a recovery where those countries are figuring out the funding and the programs. They're investing more themselves.
Carrie Manner: Yeah. You know, you described the history 2024 and 2025 accurately, and what we are seeing is improved visibility to, you know, countries within Africa, figuring out not only their funding, but also the implementation. You'll remember that, you know, in many cases, both the US and the countries themselves, said these are the most important tests to treat life-saving programs we have. We're totally committed, you know, to the testing and consumables we still have money for, but they had removed all of the people on the programs to implement them. What we're seeing is, you know, at least what we're looking at into the, you know, Q1, Q2, is a recovery where those countries are figuring out the funding and the programs. They're investing more themselves.
Speaker #2: So you'll remember that in many cases, both the US and the countries themselves said these are the most important tests to treat life-saving programs we have.
Speaker #2: We're totally committed to the testing and consumables. We still have money for it, but they had removed all of the people on the programs to implement them.
Speaker #2: What we're seeing is at least what we're looking at into the Q1, Q2 is a recovery where those countries are figuring out the funding of the programs.
Speaker #2: They're investing more themselves. We mentioned 14 countries in Africa that have signed MOUs with the government. And it really is about targeted focus, local investment that matches in these bilateral agreements.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We mentioned 14 countries in Africa that have signed MOUs with the government, and it really is about, you know, targeted focus, local investment that matches, you know, in these bilateral agreements. We know what we're seeing as part of the encouraging signs of stabilization.
Carrie Manner: We mentioned 14 countries in Africa that have signed MOUs with the government, and it really is about, you know, targeted focus, local investment that matches, you know, in these bilateral agreements. We know what we're seeing as part of the encouraging signs of stabilization.
Speaker #2: And what we're seeing as part of the encouraging signs of stabilization.
Speaker #1: Yeah, in addition to build on that, Carrie mentioned during the scripted remarks around nearshoring opportunity. And that we're excited about that opportunity. It's an opportunity for us to partner with some of these countries starting in Africa which we think can be meaningful dollars revenue dollars in the future.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Yeah, in addition, to build on that, Carrie mentioned during the scripted remarks around nearshoring opportunity, and that we're excited about that opportunity. It's an opportunity for us to partner with some of these countries, starting in Africa, which we think can be meaningful dollars, revenue dollars in the future.
Kenneth McGrath: Yeah, in addition, to build on that, Carrie mentioned during the scripted remarks around nearshoring opportunity, and that we're excited about that opportunity. It's an opportunity for us to partner with some of these countries, starting in Africa, which we think can be meaningful dollars, revenue dollars in the future.
Speaker #2: And that's really I'm sure folks know the term nearshoring, but it's really for local manufacturing assembly in-country that makes that available in a more meaningful way with the local demand.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: That's really, you know, I'm sure folks know the term nearshoring, but it's really for local manufacturing assembly in country, you know, that makes that available in a more meaningful way with the local demand.
Carrie Manner: That's really, you know, I'm sure folks know the term nearshoring, but it's really for local manufacturing assembly in country, you know, that makes that available in a more meaningful way with the local demand.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Got it. I appreciate it. I'll hop back in the queue.
Kenneth McGrath: Got it. I appreciate it. I'll hop back in the queue.
Speaker #4: Got it. I appreciate it. I'll hop back in the queue.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Mac.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Mac.
Carrie Manner: Thanks, Mac.
Speaker #3: Thank you. One moment for the next question, please. And our next question is coming from the line of Patrick Donnelly of Citi. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for the next question, please. Our next question is coming from the line of Patrick Donnelly of Citi. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for the next question, please. Our next question is coming from the line of Patrick Donnelly of Citi. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Hi, this is Brendan on for Patrick. I want to ask a little bit about the two product launches in mid-year. What's kind of the latest you've heard from the FDA, visibility into launching into the second half?
[Analyst] (Citi): Hi, this is Brendan on for Patrick. I want to ask a little bit about the 2 product launches in mid-year. What's kind of the latest you've heard from the FDA visibility into launching into the second half? I know you guys only typically guide quarterly, but any additional insight we can get on potentially what that ramp in the second half could look like?
Patrick Donnelly: Hi, this is Brendan on for Patrick. I want to ask a little bit about the 2 product launches in mid-year. What's kind of the latest you've heard from the FDA visibility into launching into the second half? I know you guys only typically guide quarterly, but any additional insight we can get on potentially what that ramp in the second half could look like?
Speaker #5: And I know you guys only typically guide quarterly, but is there any additional insight we can get on potentially what that ramp in the second half could look like?
Speaker #2: Yeah, hi, Brendan. We're still working toward that mid-year launch. And the revenue ramp in the second half, exactly as you described. What we'd say is that there's always uncertainty in the regulatory review process.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Yeah. Hi, Brendan. We're still working, yeah, toward that mid-year launch and the revenue ramp in the second half, exactly as you described. You know, what we'd say is that there's always uncertainty in the regulatory review process. You know, to give you anything, you know, in terms of timing, we'd be giving you false precision, but, you know, we'll clearly provide that information as we have more to share. I just reiterate, still working toward mid-year launch, still working toward a revenue ramp. As you noted, we are, you know, we don't do guidance beyond the quarter, but we'll share more when we do.
Carrie Manner: Yeah. Hi, Brendan. We're still working, yeah, toward that mid-year launch and the revenue ramp in the second half, exactly as you described. You know, what we'd say is that there's always uncertainty in the regulatory review process. You know, to give you anything, you know, in terms of timing, we'd be giving you false precision, but, you know, we'll clearly provide that information as we have more to share. I just reiterate, still working toward mid-year launch, still working toward a revenue ramp. As you noted, we are, you know, we don't do guidance beyond the quarter, but we'll share more when we do.
Speaker #2: To give you anything in terms of timing, we'd be giving you false precision. But we'll clearly keep the provide that information as we have more to share.
Speaker #2: But I just reiterate, still working toward mid-year launch, still working toward a revenue ramp. And as you noted, we don't do guidance beyond the quarter, but we'll share more when we do.
Speaker #5: Appreciate it. Thank you. And then I believe it was on the last call you guys talked about expanding beyond the public health setting into more of the clinical such as the urgent cares and hospitals.
[Analyst] (Citi): Appreciate it. Thank you, then. I believe on the last call, you guys talked about expanding beyond the public health setting into more like the clinical, such as like the urgent cares and hospitals, I think specifically for the Hep C test. Would you be able to talk about how traction's kind of evolved since the call and any other opportunities really come about since then? Thank you.
Patrick Donnelly: Appreciate it. Thank you, then. I believe on the last call, you guys talked about expanding beyond the public health setting into more like the clinical, such as like the urgent cares and hospitals, I think specifically for the Hep C test. Would you be able to talk about how traction's kind of evolved since the call and any other opportunities really come about since then? Thank you.
Speaker #5: I think it was specifically for the Hep C test. Would you be able to talk about how Traction's kind of evolved since the call and any other opportunities really come about since then?
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, we are both encouraged by the progress in our expansion of customer segments. That's part of the stabilization that we've been encouraged by is the pickup in not just public health, but that clinical setting.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Yeah. You know, we are both encouraged by the progress in our expansion of customer segments. You know, that's part of the stabilization that we've been encouraged by, is the, you know, the pickup in, you know, not just public health, but that clinical setting. We have seen in the syndemic approach, we've talked about a number of times, but that's the occurrence of the, you know, sort of the synergy of epidemics amongst HIV, HCV and syphilis, that there is a focus on that in emergency rooms. There is a focus on that in urgent care, and we do have. We love the public health self-funding space, but we're encouraged by the market and segment expansion beyond it.
Carrie Manner: Yeah. You know, we are both encouraged by the progress in our expansion of customer segments. You know, that's part of the stabilization that we've been encouraged by, is the, you know, the pickup in, you know, not just public health, but that clinical setting. We have seen in the syndemic approach, we've talked about a number of times, but that's the occurrence of the, you know, sort of the synergy of epidemics amongst HIV, HCV and syphilis, that there is a focus on that in emergency rooms. There is a focus on that in urgent care, and we do have. We love the public health self-funding space, but we're encouraged by the market and segment expansion beyond it.
Speaker #2: And so we have seen in the syndemic approach we've talked about a number of times, but that's the occurrence of the sort of the synergy of epidemics amongst HIV, HCV, and syphilis.
Speaker #2: That there is a focus on that in emergency rooms. There is a focus on that in urgent care. And we do have we are encouraged by the progress outside.
Speaker #2: We love the public health funding space, but we're encouraged by the market and segment expansion beyond it.
Speaker #5: Got it. Thank you again.
[Analyst] (Citi): Got it. Thank you again.
Patrick Donnelly: Got it. Thank you again.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Brendan.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Brendan.
Carrie Manner: Thanks, Brendan.
Speaker #3: Thank you. One moment. And our next question will be coming from the line of Andrew Cooper of Raymond James. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment. Our next question will be coming from the line of Andrew Cooper of Raymond James. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment. Our next question will be coming from the line of Andrew Cooper of Raymond James. Your line is open.
Andrew Cooper: Hey, everybody, thanks for the time. Maybe start with sample management. You know, would love if you could share to some degree, you know, how you view the growth when you look back at 2025, the large customer headwind that you've talked about, meaning what does that underlying look like? When you talk about, you know, a gradual improvement there, just a little more color for what that looks like and what some of the drivers are as we move through 2026 and beyond?
Andrew Cooper: Hey, everybody, thanks for the time. Maybe start with sample management. You know, would love if you could share to some degree, you know, how you view the growth when you look back at 2025, the large customer headwind that you've talked about, meaning what does that underlying look like? When you talk about, you know, a gradual improvement there, just a little more color for what that looks like and what some of the drivers are as we move through 2026 and beyond?
Speaker #1: Hey, everybody. Thanks for the time. Maybe start with sample management. Would love if you could share to some degree how you view the growth when you look back at '25, X, the large customer headwind that you've talked about.
Speaker #1: Meaning, what does that underlying look like? And when you talk about a gradual improvement there, just a little more color for what that looks like and what some of the drivers are as we move through 2026 and beyond.
Speaker #1: Yeah, no, thanks, Andrew. Yeah, when you look at the full year for sample management, and to your point, when you exclude that one large customer, for the full year, we did see growth year over year.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Yeah. No, thanks, Andrew. Yeah, when you look at the full year for sample management, and to your point, when you exclude that one large customer, for the full year, we did see growth year-over-year, and that encourages us, driven by a lot of things, right? Some could be driven by market, but also driven by our diversification of our customer base, which we think now starts paying off benefits, as we look at multiple customers and multiple avenues for growth.
Kenneth McGrath: Yeah. No, thanks, Andrew. Yeah, when you look at the full year for sample management, and to your point, when you exclude that one large customer, for the full year, we did see growth year-over-year, and that encourages us, driven by a lot of things, right? Some could be driven by market, but also driven by our diversification of our customer base, which we think now starts paying off benefits, as we look at multiple customers and multiple avenues for growth.
Speaker #1: And that encourages us, driven by a lot of things, right? Some could be driven by market, but also driven by our diversification of our customer base, which we think now starts paying off benefits.
Speaker #1: As we look at multiple customers and multiple avenues for growth. Okay, that's helpful. And then maybe just another one. For you, Ken, on the guide, presumably, on the gross margin side, there's a pretty big difference in absorption, at least between the bottom end of the revenue range and the top end of the revenue range, just given the kind of breadth of the guide.
Andrew Cooper: Okay, that's helpful. Then maybe just another one, for you, Ken, on the guide. You know, presumably on the gross margin side, there's a pretty big difference in absorption, at least between the bottom end of the revenue range and the top end of the revenue range, just given the kind of, breadth of the guide. Just would love, you know, how we should think about gross margins, both in Q1, but also, you know, as revenues hopefully ramp, what that trend can look like, on the margin side.
Andrew Cooper: Okay, that's helpful. Then maybe just another one, for you, Ken, on the guide. You know, presumably on the gross margin side, there's a pretty big difference in absorption, at least between the bottom end of the revenue range and the top end of the revenue range, just given the kind of, breadth of the guide. Just would love, you know, how we should think about gross margins, both in Q1, but also, you know, as revenues hopefully ramp, what that trend can look like, on the margin side.
Speaker #1: So just would love how we should think about gross margins both in one queue, but also as revenues hopefully ramp, what that trend can look like on the margin side.
Speaker #1: Yeah, so what we did say is that in Q1, we expect, sequentially, some improvement. And we guided to the lower 40s. But you're right on as far as the absorption part of it.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Yeah. What we did say, is that in Q1, we expect sequentially some improvement and we guide it to the low 40s. You're right on as far as the absorption part of it. What we said before is that, we're probably operating at around 30% capacity. You can imagine, as we add volume, you know, as we add revenue and add volume, we get the benefit from not having to add the fixed costs associated with that volume. You will see a natural improvement in gross margin. The other thing you may recall is, we had a project where we were consolidating, some manufacturing to our Bethlehem facilities. You know, not all of that has been done at this point. We had two areas.
Kenneth McGrath: Yeah. What we did say, is that in Q1, we expect sequentially some improvement and we guide it to the low 40s. You're right on as far as the absorption part of it. What we said before is that, we're probably operating at around 30% capacity. You can imagine, as we add volume, you know, as we add revenue and add volume, we get the benefit from not having to add the fixed costs associated with that volume. You will see a natural improvement in gross margin. The other thing you may recall is, we had a project where we were consolidating, some manufacturing to our Bethlehem facilities. You know, not all of that has been done at this point. We had two areas.
Speaker #1: What we said before is that we're probably operating at around 30% capacity so you can imagine as we add volume, as we add revenue and add volume, we get the benefit from not having to add the fixed costs associated with that volume.
Speaker #1: So you will see a natural improvement in gross margin. The other thing you may recall is we had a project where we were consolidating some manufacturing to our Bethlehem facilities.
Speaker #1: And it's not all of that has been done at this point. And we had two areas. One was moving some of our HIV testing from Thailand to our Opus Way facility in Bethlehem.
Kenneth J. McGrath: One was moving some of our HIV testing from Thailand, to our Opus Way facility in Bethlehem, and to leverage, like you said, some of that absorption, overhead absorption. Actually it was cheaper because when you run it on automation, it's actually cheaper than what we were getting in Thailand. The other aspect was consolidating or internalizing some of our volume from our sample management business from contractors that we had in Canada. We've essentially completed all but, you know, some cats and dogs, like 95% or 97% of all that volume has been brought into our Bethlehem facility. As you can imagine, as we kind of ramp up that, we will get the benefit as well.
Kenneth McGrath: One was moving some of our HIV testing from Thailand, to our Opus Way facility in Bethlehem, and to leverage, like you said, some of that absorption, overhead absorption. Actually it was cheaper because when you run it on automation, it's actually cheaper than what we were getting in Thailand. The other aspect was consolidating or internalizing some of our volume from our sample management business from contractors that we had in Canada. We've essentially completed all but, you know, some cats and dogs, like 95% or 97% of all that volume has been brought into our Bethlehem facility. As you can imagine, as we kind of ramp up that, we will get the benefit as well.
Speaker #1: And to leverage, like you said, some of that absorption—overhead absorption. And actually, it was cheaper, because when you run it on automation, it's actually cheaper than what we were getting in Thailand.
Speaker #1: The other aspect was consolidating our internalizing some of our volume from our sample management business from contractors that we had in Canada. And we've essentially completed all but some cats and dogs, like 95% or 97% of all that volume, has been brought into our Bethlehem facility.
Speaker #1: So as you can imagine, as we kind of ramp up that, we will get the benefit as well. There is some initial the reason you don't see the benefit initially is there is some initial kind of transaction transfer costs that are associated with that transition.
Kenneth J. McGrath: There is some initial. The reason you don't see the benefit initially is there is some initial kind of transaction transfer costs that are associated with that transition. Once you get that through and you start getting at the same efficiency rates, you will see that benefit.
Kenneth McGrath: There is some initial. The reason you don't see the benefit initially is there is some initial kind of transaction transfer costs that are associated with that transition. Once you get that through and you start getting at the same efficiency rates, you will see that benefit.
Speaker #1: But once you get that through and you start getting at the same efficiency rates, you will see that benefit. Okay, helpful. And then if I can speak maybe just one last one in.
Andrew Cooper: Okay, helpful. If I can sneak maybe just 1 last 1 in. I guess when we think about 26 and the comment, at least in the press release, and I think some in the call here, you know, this expectation to get back to better growth. How much of 26 is just normalizing from a 2025 where you saw spend come out of the system versus, you know, end market growth that you would expect to be more durable as opposed to comp-oriented?
Andrew Cooper: Okay, helpful. If I can sneak maybe just 1 last 1 in. I guess when we think about 26 and the comment, at least in the press release, and I think some in the call here, you know, this expectation to get back to better growth. How much of 26 is just normalizing from a 2025 where you saw spend come out of the system versus, you know, end market growth that you would expect to be more durable as opposed to comp-oriented?
Speaker #1: I guess when we think about '26 and the comment, at least in the press release, and I think some in the call here, this expectation to get back to better growth, how much of '26 is just normalizing from a 2025 where you saw spend come out of the system versus end-market growth that you would expect to be more durable as opposed to comp-oriented?
Speaker #1: Yeah, no, it's a great question. I think I'll say what we know, and then we can elaborate as we go from there. What we do believe is that our core business, we will be seeing some growth as the core business.
Kenneth J. McGrath: Yeah, no, it's a great question. Well, I'll say what we know, and then we can elaborate as we go from there. What we do believe is that our core business, we will be seeing, you know, some growth at the core business. Then we expect to accelerate that growth with the product launches in the second half of the year. Kind of start with that framework. Then as far as that core growth, we are seeing stabilization, right? Like we said, we saw stabilization and some growth in sample management in 2025. We are seeing stabilization, both international, as well as US, when it comes to funding.
Kenneth McGrath: Yeah, no, it's a great question. Well, I'll say what we know, and then we can elaborate as we go from there. What we do believe is that our core business, we will be seeing, you know, some growth at the core business. Then we expect to accelerate that growth with the product launches in the second half of the year. Kind of start with that framework. Then as far as that core growth, we are seeing stabilization, right? Like we said, we saw stabilization and some growth in sample management in 2025. We are seeing stabilization, both international, as well as US, when it comes to funding.
Speaker #1: And then we think we expect to accelerate that growth with the product launches in the second half of the year. So, kind of start with that framework.
Speaker #1: Then as far as that core growth, we are seeing stabilization, right? Like we said, we saw stabilization and some growth in sample management in 2025.
Speaker #1: And we are seeing stabilization both international as well as US when it comes to funding. The area where we do we are getting excited in international and Carrie mentioned it was around this nearshoring opportunity.
Kenneth J. McGrath: The area where we are getting excited in international, and Carrie mentioned it, was around this nearshoring opportunity, where we are partnering with, and we're starting in Africa with some African countries, then we'll expand it beyond that into Latin America and Central Asia. We're partnering with these countries. As they become more self-sufficient, we're partnering with them to help them be able to on-site be able to do some assembly where we can work with them and be their provider going forward. We think that's an exciting opportunity, and it's not an opportunity that's cannibalizing existing, it's in addition to existing sales.
Kenneth McGrath: The area where we are getting excited in international, and Carrie mentioned it, was around this nearshoring opportunity, where we are partnering with, and we're starting in Africa with some African countries, then we'll expand it beyond that into Latin America and Central Asia. We're partnering with these countries. As they become more self-sufficient, we're partnering with them to help them be able to on-site be able to do some assembly where we can work with them and be their provider going forward. We think that's an exciting opportunity, and it's not an opportunity that's cannibalizing existing, it's in addition to existing sales.
Speaker #1: Where we are partnering with and we're starting in Africa with some African countries and then we'll expand it beyond that into Latin America and Central Asia.
Speaker #1: But we're partnering with these countries as they become more self-sufficient we're partnering with them to help them be able to on-site be able to do some assembly where we can work with them and be their provider going forward.
Speaker #1: And we think that's an exciting opportunity. And it's not an opportunity that's cannibalizing existing. It's in addition to existing sales.
Speaker #2: Yeah. And Ken provided a nice overview of that. Just giving thoughts to your distinction around what sort of recovery from where funding came out versus what's growth and end markets.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Ken provided a, you know, a nice overview of that. Just giving thought to your distinction around, you know, what sort of recovery from where funding came out versus what's, you know, growth in end markets. I'd say, you know, it's obviously different by portfolio and segment, and SMS is sort of more driven by end market growth, where the core of diagnostics, where you're talking HIV, HCV, and syphilis, I do think is more about recovery. The huge impact in 2025 was public health funding cuts. Part of that growth is it's not necessarily that the funding's completely coming back, but it's that this type of testing is so critical in test to treat life-saving programs that people are figuring out how to provide those services because they just save lives.
Carrie Manner: Ken provided a, you know, a nice overview of that. Just giving thought to your distinction around, you know, what sort of recovery from where funding came out versus what's, you know, growth in end markets. I'd say, you know, it's obviously different by portfolio and segment, and SMS is sort of more driven by end market growth, where the core of diagnostics, where you're talking HIV, HCV, and syphilis, I do think is more about recovery. The huge impact in 2025 was public health funding cuts. Part of that growth is it's not necessarily that the funding's completely coming back, but it's that this type of testing is so critical in test to treat life-saving programs that people are figuring out how to provide those services because they just save lives.
Speaker #2: I'd say it's obviously different by portfolio and segment. And SMS has sort of more driven by end-market growth, where the core of diagnostics, where you're talking HIV, HCV, syphilis, I do think is more about recovery.
Speaker #2: The huge impact in '25 was public health funding cuts. So part of that growth is it's not necessarily that the funding's completely coming back, but it's that this type of testing is so critical in test-to-treat life-saving programs that people are figuring out how to provide those services because they just save lives.
Speaker #2: So I think it's different sample management is more about end-market recovery, diagnostics is more about a return-to-core growth based on those segments figuring out funding, figuring out the programs, and making trade-offs.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: I think it's different. Sample management is more about end-market recovery. Diagnostics is more about, you know, a return to core growth based on those segments, figuring out funding, figuring out the programs and making trade-offs, and then we layer in product launches onto both portfolios. We layer molecular into diagnostics, we layer Colli-Pee into sample management, and those are organic growth drivers that, yeah, I think very much align with trends that are clear customer-driven trends around self-collection, around privacy, access that's affordable.
Carrie Manner: I think it's different. Sample management is more about end-market recovery. Diagnostics is more about, you know, a return to core growth based on those segments, figuring out funding, figuring out the programs and making trade-offs, and then we layer in product launches onto both portfolios. We layer molecular into diagnostics, we layer Colli-Pee into sample management, and those are organic growth drivers that, yeah, I think very much align with trends that are clear customer-driven trends around self-collection, around privacy, access that's affordable.
Speaker #2: And then we layer in product launches onto both portfolios. We layer molecular into diagnostics. We layer Colipi into sample management and those are organic growth drivers that I think very much align with trends that are clear customer-driven trends around self-collection, around privacy, access that's affordable.
Speaker #1: Then you factor in our ability to win in those markets like syphilis, where we've been driving good growth over the years.
Kenneth J. McGrath: You factor in our ability to win in those markets, like syphilis, where we've been driving good growth, over the years.
Kenneth McGrath: You factor in our ability to win in those markets, like syphilis, where we've been driving good growth, over the years.
Speaker #3: Great. I'll stop there. Thanks for the time.
Andrew Cooper: Great. I'll stop there. Thanks for the time.
Andrew Cooper: Great. I'll stop there. Thanks for the time.
Speaker #2: Okay. Thanks, Andrew.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Okay. Thanks, Andrew.
Carrie Manner: Okay. Thanks, Andrew.
Speaker #4: Thank you. And this does conclude today's Q&A session. I would like to go ahead and turn the call back over to Carrie for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today's Q&A session. I would like to go ahead and turn the call back over to Carrie for closing remarks. Please go ahead, Carrie.
Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today's Q&A session. I would like to go ahead and turn the call back over to Carrie for closing remarks. Please go ahead, Carrie.
Speaker #4: Please go ahead, Carrie.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Lisa. And thank you to everyone who's participated in our call today and for your continued interest in OTI. Thank you so much.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thank you, Lisa, and thank you for everyone who's participated in our call today and for your continued interest in OTI. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.
Carrie Manner: Thank you, Lisa, and thank you for everyone who's participated in our call today and for your continued interest in OTI. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.
Speaker #2: Bye-bye.
Operator: This does conclude today's program. You may all disconnect.
Operator: This does conclude today's program. You may all disconnect.