Q4 2025 Navitas Semiconductor Corp Earnings Call

February 24, 2026

Operator: Good afternoon. Welcome to Navitas Semiconductor's Q4 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call, instructions will be given for the question and answer session. If anyone needs assistance at any time during the conference call, please press the star key followed by 0 on your touchtone phone. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Tuesday, 24 February 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brett Perry of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Brett, please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Good afternoon and welcome to Navitas Semiconductor's fourth quarter 2025 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call, instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session.

Speaker #1: If anyone needs assistance at any time during the conference call, please press the star key followed by zero on your touch-tone phone. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Tuesday, February 24, 2026.

Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to Brett Perry of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Brett, please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon and welcome to Navitas Semiconductor's fourth quarter 2025 financial results conference call. Joining us on today's call are Navitas president and CEO, Chris Alexandre, CFO, Todd Glickman.

Brett Perry: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, welcome to Navitas Semiconductor's Q4 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. Joining us on today's call are Navitas President and CEO, Chris Allexandre, CFO, Todd Glickman. I'd like to remind our listeners that the results announced today are preliminary, as they are subject to the company finalizing its closing procedures and customary quarterly review by the company's independent registered public accounting firm. As such, these results are unaudited and subject to revision until the company files its Form 10-K for its year ended 31 December 2025. In addition, management's prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. Therefore, the company claims the protection of the safe harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker #2: I'd like to remind our listeners that the results announced today are preliminary, as they are subject to the company finalizing its closing procedures and customary quarterly review by the company's independent registered public accounting firm.

Speaker #2: As such, these results are unaudited and subject to revision until the company files its Form 10-K for its year-ended December 31, 2025. In addition, management prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions.

Speaker #2: Therefore, the company claims the protection of the safe harbor for forward-looking statements that is contained in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker #2: Actual results may differ from those discussed today, and therefore we refer you to a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including Form 10-K and Form 10-Q.

Brett Perry: Actual results may differ from those discussed today, and therefore, we refer you to a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. In addition, any projections as to the company's future performance represent management's estimates as of today, 24 February 2026. Navitas assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future, as market conditions may or may not change, except to the extent required by applicable law. Additionally, in the company's press release and management statements during this conference call will include discussions of certain measures and financial information in both GAAP and non-GAAP terms. Included in the company's press release are definitions and reconciliations of GAAP and non-GAAP items, which provide additional details.

Speaker #2: In addition, any projections as to the company's future performance represent management's estimates as of today, February 24, 2026. Navitas assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future, as market conditions may or may not change, except to the extent required by applicable law.

Speaker #2: Additionally, in the company's press release and management statements during this conference call, we'll include discussions of certain measures and financial information in both GAAP and non-GAAP terms.

Speaker #2: Included in the company's press release are definitions and reconciliations of GAAP and non-GAAP items, which provide additional details. For those of you unable to listen to the entire call at this time, the recording will be available via webcast for 90 days in the Investor Relations section of Navitas's website at www.navitasemi.com.

Brett Perry: For those of you unable to listen to the entire call at this time, a recording will be available via webcast for 90 days in the investor relations section of Navitas's website at www.navitassemi.com. Now, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Navitas President and CEO. Chris, please go ahead.

Speaker #2: And now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Navitas President and CEO, Chris Allexandre. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Good afternoon, and we appreciate you joining us today. I'm pleased to be hosting my second quarterly conference call as Navitas CEO. We close out the year with a productive fourth quarter, as we continue to accelerate our pivot to Navitas 2.0 and align the entire organization to focus on addressing high-power markets.

Chris Allexandre: Good afternoon, we appreciate you joining us today. I'm pleased to be hosting my second quarterly conference call as Navitas CEO. We closed out the year with a productive Q4 as we continued to accelerate our pivot to Navitas 2.0 and align the entire organization to focus on addressing high-power markets. In fact, it has been an energizing five months that I joined the company, and my conviction in our industry-leading GaN and high voltage SiC solution has only grown stronger, and that our strategic pivot is on the right path to successfully scale the company to the next level. Before providing comments and updates specific to the quarter, I want to briefly reiterate several key elements on our previously communicated strategic transformation and our vision to what we call Navitas 2.0.

Speaker #3: In fact, it has been an energizing five months since I joined the company, and my conviction in our industry-leading GaN and high-voltage SiC solution has only grown stronger.

Speaker #3: And that our strategic pivot is on the right path to succeeding scale the company to the next level. Before providing comments and updates specific to the quarter, I want to briefly reiterate several key elements on our previously communicated strategic transformation.

Speaker #3: And our vision to what we call Navitas 2.0. First, we're accelerating our pivot away from the company's historical mobile and low-end consumer business to focus on high-power markets, where our GAAN and high-voltage SIC products can deliver real differentiation and value.

Chris Allexandre: First, we're accelerating our pivot away from the company's historical mobile and low-end consumer business to focus on high-power markets, where our GaN and high voltage SiC products can deliver real differentiation and value through higher density, efficiency, and reliability. We are laser focused on four high-growth, high-value market segments: AI data center, energy and grid infrastructure, performance computing, and industrial electrification. Collectively, these segments represent a serviceable addressable market of $3.5 billion by 2030, split roughly 50/50 between GaN and high voltage SiC, with a combined CAGR of more than 60%.

Speaker #3: Through higher density, efficiency, and reliability. We are laser-focused on four high-growth, high-value market segments, AI data center, energy, and grid infrastructure, performance computing, and industrial electrification.

Speaker #3: Collectively, these segments represent a serviceable, addressable market of $3.5 billion by 2030, split roughly 50-50 between GaN and high-voltage SiCs, with a combined CAGR of more than 60%.

Speaker #3: Although the largest portion of these $3.5 billion SAM are within AI data centers and grid and energy infrastructure, I want to emphasize that AI is a shared, underlying catalyst across our four target markets.

Chris Allexandre: Although the largest portion of this 3.5 billion TAM are within AI data centers and grid energy infrastructure, I want to emphasize that AI is a shared underlying catalyst across our four target markets, driving a rapid acceleration in terms of re-architecture infrastructure, customer expectation, and the adoption of the new high-voltage technology. We're leveraging our proven 10-year track record as a pioneer of GaN at scale, having shipped over 300 million unit GaN devices, coupled with the deep expertise in system and application, as well as our leadership in high-energy, high-voltage SiC through our GeneSiC technology. The end goal of Navitas 2.0's strategic transformation is straightforward: to rapidly penetrate, secure expanded customer engagement, and achieve scale, resulting in a more sustainable, consistent, and future profitable growth for Navitas. Turning to a brief recap of our Q4 results.

Speaker #3: Driving a rapid acceleration in terms of re-architecting infrastructure, customer expectations, and the adoption of new high-voltage technology. We're leveraging our proven 10-year track record as a pioneer of GaN at scale, having shipped over 300 million units of GaN devices.

Speaker #3: Coupled with a deep expertise in system and application, as well as our leadership in high-ability, high-voltage SIC through our genetic technology. The end goal of Navitas 2.0 strategic transformation is straightforward: to rapidly penetrate secure expanded customer engagement and achieve scale.

Speaker #3: Resulting in a more sustainable, consistent, and future-profitable growth for Navitas. Turning to a brief recap of our fourth quarter results. As initial progress of our pivot to Navitas 2.0 was completed a realignment of the entire organization, both in terms of skills and geography, to focus on addressing high-power markets.

Chris Allexandre: As initial progress of our pivot to Navitas 2.0, we've completed a realignment of the entire organization, both in terms of skills and geography, to focus on addressing high power markets. This include fully redeploying organizational resources, roadmap, and focus accordingly. Revenue in Q4 came at the high end of our guidance range at $7.3 million. Coupled with Q4 being the first time that a high power market represents the majority of our total revenue, we remain confident that Q4 was the bottom. Notably, our mobile business declined sequentially from a majority of revenue in Q3 to less than 25% of total revenue in Q4. We expect mobile to continue going down as a percentage of quarterly revenue and become insignificant by the end of 2026.

Speaker #3: This includes fully redeploying organizational resources, roadmap, and focus accordingly. Revenue in the fourth quarter came at the high end of our GAAP range, at $7.3 million.

Speaker #3: Coupled with the fourth quarter being the first time that a high-power market represents a majority of our total revenue, we remain confident that the fourth quarter was the bottom.

Speaker #3: Notably, our mobile business declined sequentially from a majority of revenue into free to less than 25% of total revenue in Q4. We expect mobile to continue going down as the percentage of quarterly revenue and become insignificant by the end of '26.

Speaker #3: Also consistent with our comment last quarter, we're guiding to quarter-over-quarter growth for Q1 and anticipate continued sequential growth throughout '26, driven by increasing sales traction in high-power markets.

Chris Allexandre: Also, consistent with our comment last quarter, we're guiding to quarter-over-quarter growth for Q1 and anticipate continued sequential growth throughout 2026, driven by increasing sales traction in high-power markets. Over the last several months, as part of my extended meetings with customers and partners, I've seen numerous proof points that the new technology adoption is accelerating. AI is a catalyst, changing the game across markets. Existing technologies and architecture are no longer sufficient. The industry is moving faster than it ever has in terms of technology adoption, with customers clearly moving to take advantage of GaN and high-voltage SiC technology. As previously mentioned, AI is a primary catalyst that's driving momentum and broadening the adoption of high-power solution across all four of our target high-power markets.

Speaker #3: Over the last several months, as part of my extended meetings with customers and partners, I've seen numerous proof points that new technology adoption is accelerating.

Speaker #3: AI is a catalyst, changing the game across markets. Existing technologies and architecture are no longer sufficient. The industry is moving faster than it ever has in terms of technology adoption.

Speaker #3: With customers clearly moving to take advantage of GaN and high-voltage SiC technology. As previously mentioned, AI is a primary catalyst that's driving momentum and broadening the adoption of high-power solutions across all four of our target high-power markets.

Speaker #3: Every interaction with customers has confirmed the market is undergoing circular change. And that AI is sparkling a revolution we're focused on. This impending inflection point in architecture design and technology adoption is highly favorable to GAAN and high-voltage SIC, putting Navitas 2.0 at the center of this revolution.

Chris Allexandre: Every interaction with customers has confirmed the market is undergoing secular change, and that AI is sparking a revolution we're focused on. This impending inflection point in architecture, design, and technology adoption is highly favorable to GaN and high voltage SiC, putting Navitas 2.0 at the center of this revolution. As outlined in our last call, the Navitas 2.0 transformation to a high power company is being backed by decisive actions and grounded in four pillars that include market focus, technology leadership, operational efficiency, and financial discipline. Let me now review with you the measurable progress that we've made in each of these areas since our last earnings call. Starting with market focus. As I mentioned earlier, we're sharply focused on the high power market of AI data center, energy and grid infrastructure, performance computing, and industrial application.

Speaker #3: As outlined in our last call, the Navitas 2.0 transformation to a high-power company is being backed by decisive actions and grounded in four pillars that include market focus, technology leadership, operational efficiency, and financial discipline.

Speaker #3: Let me now review with you the measurable progress that we've made in each of these areas since our last earning call. Starting with market focus, as I mentioned earlier, we're sharply focused on the high-power market of AI data center energy and grid infrastructure.

Speaker #3: Performance computing and industrial electrification. In AI data centers specifically, Navitas is uniquely positioned as one of the leaders in GaN and high-voltage SiC, supporting all major AI data center architectures.

Chris Allexandre: In AI data center specifically, Navitas is uniquely positioned as one of the leaders in GaN and high voltage SiC, supporting all major AI data center architectures. The density of compute power, which require a higher efficiency and power density, is driving the acceleration of GaN in next generation data center. During the quarter, we've accelerated samplings of product and solution delivery with our 100V GaN and 650V GaN targeted at AI data center, 800V HVDC, and 48V IBC HV buck architecture. Samples are currently available in different package types and are being evaluated by more than a dozen customers. More recently, on 9 February, we announced our breakthrough 10kW DC-DC design platform.

Speaker #3: The density of compute power is required a higher efficiency and porosity. It's driving the acceleration of GAAN in next-generation data center. During the quarter, we've accelerated samplings of product and solution delivery with our 100-volt GAAN and 650-volt GAAN targeted at AI data center 800-volt HVDC and 48-volt IBC HV block architecture.

Speaker #3: Samples are currently available in different package types, and are being evaluated by more than a dozen customers. More recently, on February 9, we announced our breakthrough 10-kilowatt DC-DC design platform.

Speaker #3: This is an all-GAAN 10-kilowatt 800-volt to 50-volt DC-DC platform, which employs advanced 650-volt and 100-volt GAAN fab sets in a free-level half-bridge architecture with synchronous activation.

Chris Allexandre: This is an all GaN 10kW, 800V to 50V DC-DC platforms, which employs advanced 650V and 100V GaN fab sets in a three-level half-bridge architecture with synchronous rectification. This platform has delivered a 98.5% peak efficiency, which we believe is the best in the industry so far. This full brick package design platform achieve leading power density and support ±400V VDC standard for AI data centers. This is a great example on how Navitas is able to leverage our 10 years of GaN and system expertise. We're setting the benchmark for scalable, high-performance AI infrastructure. Our product portfolio enables unprecedented power density to support rapid, large-scale expansion of AI data center, while also allowing hyperscalers and OEM the ability to maximize compute density and reduce energy loss in support of deploying next generation AI workload.

Speaker #3: This platform has delivered a 98.5% peak efficiency, which we believe is the best in the industry so far. This full-brick package design platform achieves leading power density and supports plus or minus 400-volt VDC standard for AI data centers.

Speaker #3: This is a great example on how Navitas is able to leverage our 10 years of GAAN and system expertise. We're setting the benchmark for scalable, high-performance AI infrastructure.

Speaker #3: Our product portfolio enables unprecedented power density to support rapid, large-scale expansion of AI data center while also allowing hyperscalers and OEMs the ability to maximize compute density and reduce energy loss in support of deploying next-generation AI workloads.

Speaker #3: On the SiC front, we are very active supporting customers in their AC/DC PSU designs for current AI data center architecture with our latest 1.2 kV SiC devices leveraging our latest fifth-generation GeneSiC technology, announced earlier this month.

Chris Allexandre: On the SiC front, we are very active supporting customers in their AC-DC PSU designs for current AI data center architecture with our latest 1.2 kV SiC devices, leveraging our latest 6th generation GeneSiC technology announced earlier this month. This product bring improved figures of merit and best-in-class thermal behavior, the top side cooling QD-Pak package that are being well received by customers. In the grid and energy infrastructure market, the energy grid is in the process of a major transformation and modernization to support the AI catalyst. Also, overall growth in energy demand. This is not a short cycle, rather a multi-decade, secular, and sustainable trend that will transform grid and energy infrastructure. As a result, we are seeing an acceleration in the design cycles here as well.

Speaker #3: This product brings improved figures of merit and best-in-class thermal behavior to the top five cooling QD pack package that are being well received by customers.

Speaker #3: In the grid and energy infrastructure market, the energy grid is in the process of a major transformation and modernization to support the AI catalyst.

Speaker #3: But also, overall growth in energy demand. This is not a short cycle, but rather a multi-decade, circular and sustainable trend that will transform grid and energy infrastructure.

Speaker #3: As a result, we're seeing an acceleration in the design cycles here as well. We are leading this effort with our new ultra-high-voltage 2.3 kV and 3.3 kV SIC module and roadmap to even higher voltage.

Chris Allexandre: We are leading this effort with our new ultra-high voltage 2.3 kV and 3.3 kV SiC module, and roadmap to even higher voltage. We are now in evaluation with over 50 OEMs globally, mostly in the US and Europe, with notable acceleration in the US. In performance computing, we continue to see increased GaN adoption in high power chargers and power units for high-end computing and AI notebooks, replacing silicon. We have more than 15 projects in production and approximately twice that number in designing across 170 watt, 200 watt, 250 watt, 240 watt, and up to 360 watt with leading global computing companies. We expect to continue gaining momentum in the performance computing market throughout 2026.

Speaker #3: We are now in evaluation with over 15 OEMs globally, mostly in the US and Europe, with notable acceleration in the US. In performance computing, we continue to see increased GAAN adoption in high-power chargers and power units for high-end computing and AI notebooks, replacing silicon.

Speaker #3: We have more than 15 projects in production and approximately twice that number in design across 170-watt, 200-watt, 250-watt, 240-watt, and up to 360-watt with leading global computing companies.

Speaker #3: We expect to continue gaining momentum in the performance computing market throughout 2026. And lastly, in industrial electrification, we're starting to see GAAN and high-voltage SIC traction in high-performance applications spanning industrial pumps, AV equipment electrification like DC-DC converters, and megawatt chargers.

Chris Allexandre: Lastly, in industrial electrification, we're starting to see GaN and high voltage SiC traction in high-performance applications, spanning industrial pumps and AV equipment electrification like DC-DC converters and megawatt chargers. Turning to our seventh pillar, technology leadership. We continue to prioritize innovation across GaN and high voltage SiC technology, including both product and solution, supported by expanding customer engagement and co-development project. One example of this innovation and system expertise was our breakthrough 10 kilowatt DC-DC platform that I just discussed previously. Another highlight was our announcement during the last quarter of the 2,300 volt and 3,300 volt ultra high voltage SiC module portfolio, which we have accelerated sampling to more customers. These modules feature proprietary trench-assisted planar technology for AM scalability, avalanche robustness, and performance in mission-critical applications across grid-tied infrastructure, energy storage, and megawatt-scale fast charging.

Speaker #3: Turning to our second pillar, technology leadership. We continue to prioritize innovation across GAAN and high-voltage SIC technology. Including both product and solution, supported by expanding customer engagement and co-development projects.

Speaker #3: One example of this innovation and system expertise was our breakthrough 10-kilowatt DC-DC platform that I just discussed previously. Another highlight was our announcement during the last quarter of our 2,300-volt and 3,300-volt ultra-high-voltage SIC module portfolio.

Speaker #3: We have accelerated sampling to more customers. These modules feature proprietary trench-assisted planar technology for AM scalability, avalanche robustness, and performance in mission-critical applications across grid-type infrastructure, energy storage, and megawatt-scale fast charging.

Speaker #3: This product is available in SiC pack, G+, power modules, discrete packages, and known-good die format with extended AAC+ scalability testing. As mentioned earlier, we announced last week our Gen5 technology and upcoming new 1.2 kV SiC QD pack product targeting PSU AC/DC for AI data centers.

Chris Allexandre: These products are available in SiCPAK, V plus power modules, discrete packages, and known good die format with extended AAC+ reliability testing. As mentioned earlier, we announced last week our Gen 5 technology and upcoming new 1.2 kV SiC QD-Pak product targeting PSU AC-DC for AI data centers. Our new Gen 5 SiC technology continues to improve the figure of merits of our leading Gen 6 technology. It leverages our trench-assisted planar, TAAP, architecture, best-in-class thermal behaviors, and top side cooling in QD-Pak. We're now sampling our first new 1.2 kV Gen 5 SiC product to multiple OEM and ODM, designing high-power PSUs and AC-DC for AI data centers. On our third pillar, operational efficiency. We have taken actionable steps to create a more streamlined and rebalanced geographic SiP organization.

Speaker #3: Our new Gen5 SiC technology continues to improve the figure of merit of our leading GeneSys technology. It leverages our trench-assisted planar TAAP architecture, best-in-class thermal behaviors, and top-side cooling in QD pack.

Speaker #3: We're now sampling our first new 1.2 kV Gen5 SIC product to multiple OEMs and ODMs designing high-power PSUs and AC/DC for AI data centers.

Speaker #3: On our third pillar, operational efficiency. We have taken actionable steps to create a more streamlined and rebalanced geographically deployed organization. We have been receiving strong employee buy-in and releasing tangible benefits from this effort.

Chris Allexandre: We have been receiving strong employee buy-in and are receiving tangible benefits from these efforts. Also, on 20 November, we were pleased to announce a long-term strategic technology and manufacturing partnership with GlobalFoundries to accelerate GaN technology design and manufacturing in the United States. This partnership enables secure, scalable solution for our target high power market and ensures that Navitas can deliver the performance, efficiency, and scale our customer demand. It also provides Navitas the opportunity to manufacture our solution in critical and national security applications in US. Development began a few weeks ago, and both companies are deeply collaborating, with production expected to begin later in the year and accelerate in 2027. Over time, we expect to transition to 8-inch in order to lower product costs and increase scale. Also, during the quarter, we executed action to restructure and optimize our go-to-market strategy.

Speaker #3: Also, on November 20th, we were pleased to announce a long-term strategic technology and manufacturing partnership with global fundraisers. To accelerate GAAN technology design and manufacturing in the United States.

Speaker #3: This partnership enables secure, scalable solutions for our target high-power market and ensures that Navitas can deliver the performance, efficiency, and scale our customers demand.

Speaker #3: It also provides Navitas the opportunity to manufacture our solution in critical and national security applications in the US. Development began a few weeks ago, and both companies are deeply collaborating with production expected to begin later in the year and accelerate in 2027.

Speaker #3: Over time, we expect to transition to 8-inch in order to lower product costs and increase scale. Also, during the quarter, we executed actions to restructure and optimize our go-to-market strategy.

Speaker #3: This included significant consolidation of distribution channel partners from approximately 40 to less than 10 distributors who have the ability to scale and are well suited for serving high-power market while removing previously mobile-centric distributors.

Chris Allexandre: This included significant consolidation of distribution channel partners from approximately 40 to less than 10 distributors. We have the ability to scale and are well suited for serving high-power market while removing previously mobile-centric distributors. Our fourth pillar, financial discipline, centers on resource realignment in support of our focus on high-power markets. This includes a very targeted 19% reduction in headcount in the Q4, offset by realignment action to support the Navitas 2.0 shift, including hiring new employees well-equipped for high-power markets, in particular within the United States. As evidenced by our Q4 revenue mix, we have made tremendous progress. We also brought in new additional leaders with skills in sales and marketing, R&D, and operation, with a focus on enabling stronger execution.

Speaker #3: And our fourth pillar, financial discipline, centers on resource realignment in support of our focus on high-power markets. This includes a very targeted 19% reduction in headcount in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: Offset by realignment action to support the Navitas 2.0 shift, including hiring new employees well-equipped for high-power markets, in particular within the United States. As evidenced by our fourth-quarter revenue mix, we have made tremendous progress.

Speaker #3: We also brought in new additional leaders with skills in sales and marketing, R&D, and operations with a focus on enabling stronger execution. This collective action focuses the entire company on high-power markets and provides a foundation for efficient and effective execution going forward.

Chris Allexandre: These collective actions focus the entire company on high power market and provide a foundation for efficient and effective execution going forward. Even with a larger market opportunity, our resource realignment allows us to efficiently focus our quarterly spend on the high power market. As a result, we're targeting to maintain operating expenses flat throughout the coming year. We also expect to drive gradual margin expansion throughout 2026 through improving scale and mix of high power business. Lastly, to further strengthen our balance sheet and fund future operation, we completed a private placement of common stock in November with net proceed of approximately $96 million, contributing to a quarterly end cash balance of $237 million. These proceeds further support our Navitas 2.0 strategy, accelerating our transformation and funding working capital for scalable growth and long-term value creation.

Speaker #3: Even with a larger market opportunity, our resource realignment allows us to efficiently focus our quarterly spend on high-power markets. As a result, we're targeting to maintain operating expenses flat throughout the coming year.

Speaker #3: We also expect to drive gradual margin expansion throughout 2026 through improving scale and mix of high-power business. Lastly, to further strengthen our balance sheet and fund future operations, we completed a private placement of common stock in November with net proceeds of approximately $96 million.

Speaker #3: Contributing to a quarterly end cash balance of $237 million with proceeds further support our Navitas 2.0 strategy accelerating our transformation and funding working capital for scalable growth and long-term value creation.

Speaker #3: In closing, I am very pleased with the overall progress we achieved in a relatively short period of time. Speed is a financial element of our company's culture.

Chris Allexandre: In closing, I am very pleased with the overall progress we achieved in a relatively short period of time. Speed is a fundamental element of our company's culture, and it's clearly working. We are positioning Navitas 2.0 as a high power company, sharpening our focus and execution to enable scalable growth. Looking ahead, we anticipate a return to top-line sequential growth starting in Q1, fueled by increased revenue from high power markets. When combined with the benefit of our optimized cost structure, streamlined go-to-market approach, and accelerated product roadmap, we're also positioned to achieve gradual improvement in gross margin and bottom line results over the coming year. I'm incredibly proud of the team's dedication, hard work, and agility in delivering Navitas 2.0 vision.

Speaker #3: And it's clearly working. We are positioning Navitas 2.0 as a high-power company sharpening our focus and execution to enable scalable growth. Looking top-line sequential growth starting in the first quarter.

Speaker #3: Fueled by increased revenue from high-power markets, when combined with the benefit of our optimized cost structure, streamlined go-to-market approach, and accelerated product roadmap, we also position to achieve gradual improvement in gross margin and bottom-line result over the coming year.

Speaker #3: I'm incredibly proud of the team's dedication, hard work, and agility in pivoting to Navitas 2.0 vision. I also want to thank our customers for their support to our new strategic direction, as well as ongoing contribution to mutually beneficial collaboration and partnership.

Chris Allexandre: I also want to thank our customers for their support to our new strategic direction, as well as ongoing contribution to mutually beneficial collaboration and partnership. With that, I'll turn the call over to Todd to review our Q4 and full year results, as well as our Q1 guidance.

Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call over to Todd to review our fourth-quarter and full-year results as well as our first-quarter guidance.

Todd Glickman: Thank you, Chris. In my comments today, I will take you through our Q4 and full year 2025 financial results. I'll walk you through some of the important Q4 achievements and market dynamics, as well as our outlook for Q1 2026. I will return it to Chris for final remarks before we take questions. Revenue in Q4 2025 exceeded the high end of guidance at $7.3 million, compared to $10.1 million in Q3 2025. As expected, revenue for the quarter reflects our strategic decision to deprioritize our low power, lower profit, and China mobile and consumer business, as well as our efforts to streamline our distribution network to align our focus on high power markets.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Chris. In my comments today, I will take you through our fourth quarter and full-year 2025 financial results. And then I'll walk you through some of the important Q4 achievements and market dynamics as well as our outlook for the first quarter 2026.

Speaker #2: I will then return it to Chris for final remarks before we take questions. Revenue in the fourth quarter of 2025 exceeded the high end of guidance at $7.3 million, compared to $10.1 million in the third quarter of 2025.

Speaker #2: As expected, revenue for the quarter reflects our strategic decision to deprioritize our low-power, lower-profit China mobile and consumer business, as well as our efforts to streamline our distribution network to align our focus on high-power markets.

Speaker #2: As Chris mentioned, our high-power markets represented a majority of our quarterly revenue for the first time in the company's history. With mobile declining to less than 25%, this is a very important milestone and representative of our strategic shift.

Todd Glickman: As Chris mentioned, our high power markets represented a majority of our quarterly revenue for the first time in the company's history, with mobile declining to less than 25%. This is a very important milestone and representative of our strategic shift. As mentioned before, we believe that Q4 represented the bottom for revenue as our strategic actions support driving increased contribution from our high-powered business going forward. Before addressing gross profit and expenses, I'd like to refer you to the GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations in our press release. In the rest of my commentary, I will refer to non-GAAP measures.

Speaker #2: As mentioned before, we believe that Q4 represented the bottom for revenue as our strategic actions support driving increased contribution from our high-power business going forward.

Speaker #2: Before addressing gross profit and expenses, I'd like to refer you to the gap-to-non-gap reconciliations in our press release. In the rest of my commentary, I will refer to non-gap measures.

Speaker #2: I would also like to point out that our gap results for the fourth quarter included a 16.6 million restructuring and impairment charge that consisted of approximately $10 million of distribution contract terminations, $4 million of fixed asset impairments, and $2 million of workforce reduction expenses, associated with realigning the entire organization and distribution channel to focus on addressing high-power markets.

Todd Glickman: I would also like to point out that our GAAP results for Q4 includes a $16.6 million restructuring and impairment charge that consisted of approximately $10 million of distribution contract terminations, $4 million of fixed asset impairments, and $2 million of workforce reduction expenses associated with realigning the entire organization and distribution channel to focus on addressing high power markets. Of the $16.6 million restructuring and impairment charge in the quarter, $3.8 million was non-cash related items. Gross margin in Q4 was $38.7 million, which was flat sequentially with the prior quarter, reflecting the ability to maintain our margin profile despite the lower quarterly revenue. At these revenue levels, we do not yet have the leverage to overcome our fixed costs, but we expect this to improve as we further grow revenue from high power markets.

Speaker #2: Of the 16.6 million restructuring and impairment charge in the quarter, $3.8 million was non-cash-related items. Gross margin in the fourth quarter was 38.7 million, which was flat sequentially with the prior quarter.

Speaker #2: Reflecting the ability to maintain our margin profile despite the lower quarterly revenue. At these revenue levels, we do not yet have the leveraged to overcome our fixed costs.

Speaker #2: But we expect this to improve as we further grow revenue from high-power markets. As mentioned in our last earnings call, we expect to deliver expanded margins as we pursue a mix change towards higher-power markets and away from mobile and low-end consumer.

Todd Glickman: As mentioned in our last earnings call, we expect to deliver expanded margins as we pursue a mix change towards higher power markets and away from mobile and low-end consumer. During Q4, we executed on a 19% workforce reduction, mostly deployed to mobile and consumer, and an organizational realignment towards US high-powered customers and markets, thereby reducing operating expenses sequentially from $15.4 million to $14.9 million. This is part of our strategic plan to realign company's resources to the Navitas 2.0 focus. Operating expenses were comprised of SG&A expenses of $6.8 million and R&D expenses of $8.1 million. These expense levels align with our cost reduction targets.

Speaker #2: During the fourth quarter, we executed on a 19% workforce reduction, mostly deployed to mobile and consumer. And an organizational realignment towards US high-power customers and markets.

Speaker #2: Thereby reducing operating expenses sequentially from 15.4 million to 14.9 million. This is part of our strategic plan to realign companies' resources to the Navitas 2.0 focus.

Speaker #2: Operating expenses were comprised of SG&A expenses of $6.8 million, and R&D expenses of $8.1 million. These expense levels align with our cost reduction targets.

Speaker #2: The fourth quarter of 2025 loss from operations was $12.1 million, compared to $11.5 million in the third quarter of 2025, as the reduction in operating expenses did not fully offset the decrease in revenue.

Todd Glickman: The Q4 2025 loss from operations was $12.1 million, compared to $11.5 million in the Q3 2025, as the reduction in operating expenses did not fully offset the decrease in revenue. Our weighted average share count for the Q4 was approximately 222 million shares. For the full year 2025, revenue was $45.9 million, compared to $83.3 million in 2024. Gross margin for the full year was 38.4%, compared to 40.4% last year. 2025 operating expenses were $63.6 million, compared to $83.4 million in 2024. The full year loss from operation was $46 million versus $49.7 million last year.

Speaker #2: Our weighted average share count for the fourth quarter was approximately 222 million shares. For the full year 2025, revenue was $45.9 million compared to $83.3 million.

Speaker #2: In 2024, gross margin for the full year was 38.4%, compared to 40.4% last year. 2025 operating expenses were $63.6 million, compared to $83.4 million in 2024.

Speaker #2: The full year loss from operation was $46 million, versus $49.7 million last year. As Chris mentioned, the fourth quarter represented the bottom in quarterly revenue, and we expect to return to top line sequential growth throughout 2026 as we continue our transition to high-power markets.

Todd Glickman: As Chris mentioned, the Q4 represented the bottom in quarterly revenue, and we expect to return to top line sequential growth throughout 2026 as we continue our transition to high power markets. Turning to the balance sheet, accounts receivable was down to $3.6 million from $9.8 million in the Q3, reducing our DSOs to 45 days. Inventory decreased to $13.3 million from $14.7 million last quarter. Cash and cash equivalents at quarter end were approximately $237 million, reflecting net proceeds of approximately $96 million from our completed private placement of common stock in November 2025. The company continues to carry no debt. Our balance sheet remains very strong as we exit the year with a high level of liquidity and improved working capital position. Moving to guidance for the Q1 of 2026.

Speaker #2: Turning to the balance sheet, accounts receivable was down to $3.6 million, from $9.8 million in the third quarter. Reducing our DSOs to $45 days.

Speaker #2: Inventory decreased to $13.3 million, from $14.7 million last quarter. Cash and cash equivalents, at quarter end, were approximately $237 million, reflecting net proceeds of approximately $96 million, from our completed private placement of common stock in November 2025.

Speaker #2: The company continues to carry no debt. Our balance sheet remains very strong as we exit the year with a high level of liquidity and improved working capital position.

Speaker #2: Moving to guidance for the first quarter of 2026, we expect revenue to increase sequentially to between $8 million and $8.5 million. This represents the first quarter over quarter growth since the company's pivot.

Todd Glickman: We expect revenue to increase sequentially to between $8 million and $8.5 million. This represents the Q1 quarter-over-quarter growth since the company's pivot. As I just mentioned, we expect sequential growth to continue throughout the year, driven by increasing revenue contribution from high-power markets. Gross margin for Q1 is expected to be 38.7% ±25 basis points. We continue to anticipate the technological innovations to bring to high-power, high-growth markets will result in progressive expansion of future gross margins. Turning to operating expenses. We anticipate operating expenses to remain approximately $15 million for Q1. We expect to continue to allocate resources and expenses as we redeploy company resources towards higher-power, customer, and markets, particularly within the US.

Speaker #2: As I just mentioned, we expect sequential growth to continue throughout the year, driven by increasing revenue contribution from high-power markets. Gross margin for the first quarter is expected to be 38.7%, plus or minus 25 basis points.

Speaker #2: We continue to anticipate the technological innovations to bring to high-power high-growth markets will result in progressive expansion of future gross margins. Turning to operating expenses, we anticipate operating expenses to remain approximately $15 million, for the first quarter.

Speaker #2: We expect to continue to allocate resources and expenses as we redeploy company resources towards higher-power customer and markets. Particularly within the US, this redeployment of resources is expected to offset the strategic downsizing of our facilities to result in flat operating expenses.

Todd Glickman: This redeployment of resources is expected to offset the strategic downsizing of our facilities to result in flat operating expenses. For Q1, we expect our weighted average share count to be approximately 230 million shares. In closing, we are pleased with our initial progress and accelerated pivot to Navitas 2.0, as evidenced by high power products representing the majority of our quarterly revenue for the first time. We expect to increasingly benefit from the broadening adoption of our GaN and high voltage SiC products in targeted high power markets. Together, with our recent actions to reallocate resources, optimize operational efficiencies, and restructure distribution channels, we believe that Navitas is on a path to deliver improving margins and bottom line results. I'd now like to turn the call back to Chris for some final comments before opening the call to questions.

Speaker #2: For the first quarter, we expect our weighted average share count to be approximately 230 million shares. In closing, we are pleased with our initial progress in accelerated pivot to Navitas 2.0.

Speaker #2: As evidenced by high-power products representing the majority of our quarterly revenue for the first time, we expect to increasingly benefit from the broadening, adoption of our GAN and high-voltage SIC products in targeted high-power markets.

Speaker #2: Together with our recent actions to reallocate resources, optimize operational efficiencies, and restructure distribution channels, we believe that Navitas is on a path to deliver improving margins and bottom-line results.

Speaker #2: I'd now like to turn the call back to Chris for some final comments before opening the call to questions.

Speaker #1: As we close to this call, I want to address one additional matter. After an extraordinary 10 years of dedicated service, Todd has decided to step down as CFO to pursue other opportunities.

Chris Allexandre: As we close today's call, I want to address one additional matter. After an extraordinary 10 years of dedicated service, Todd has decided to step down as CFO to pursue other opportunities. He has been an invaluable partner to everyone in the company, bringing financial discipline, strategic insight, and weathering integrity that helped steer us through periods of both growth and challenges. Todd has also been a great partner over the last 6 months, helping to pivot and transition the company to Navitas 2.0. On behalf of the entire board and executive team, I want to extend our gratitude for all of his contribution over the past decade. We have strong financial organization in place, and Todd is fully committed to assisting in a seamless transition until his successor has been made. We expect to communicate in the coming weeks regarding Todd's replacement and Navitas' new CFO.

Speaker #1: He has been an invaluable partner to everyone in the company, bringing financial discipline, strategic insight, and weathering integrity that helped steer us through periods of both growth and challenges.

Speaker #1: Todd has also been a great partner over the last six months, helping to pivot and transition the company to Navitas 2.0. On behalf of the entire board and executive team, I want to extend our gratitude for all of his contributions over the past decade.

Speaker #1: We have strong financial organization in place and Todd is fully committed to assisting in a seamless transition until his successor has been made. We expect to communicate in the coming weeks regarding Todd's replacement and Navitas new CFO.

Speaker #1: We enter into these two chapters with confidence in our strategy, our momentum, and our ability to continue delivering long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you again for joining us today.

Chris Allexandre: We enter in this new chapter with confidence in our strategy, our momentum, and our ability to continue delivering long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you again for joining us today. Operators, you might now open the call to questions.

Speaker #1: Operators, you might now open the call to questions.

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Speaker #3: And our first question comes from the line of Kevin Garrigan with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: Yeah, hey, Chris and Todd. Congrats on the results. And Todd, best of luck on your next path forward. Hey, can you guys just walk us through how each of the high-power end markets performed in Q4 and how we should think about the trajectory for each of those markets in Q1?

Kevin Garrigan: Yeah. Hey, Chris and Todd. Congrats on the results, and Todd, best of luck on your next path forward. Hey, can you guys just walk us through how each of the high power end markets performed in Q4, and how we should think about the trajectory for each of those markets in Q1?

Speaker #5: Yeah. Well, obviously, our quarter-on-quarter growth in revenue was due to the high-power markets. So they are performing well. We're not going to sort of break out the high-power markets at this time, but we do expect all of them to be performing on a go-forward basis as mobile becomes immaterial as we move through the year.

Todd Glickman: Yeah. Well, obviously, you know, our quarter-on-quarter growth in revenue was due to the high-power markets, so they are performing well. We're not gonna sort of break out the high-power markets at this time, but we do expect all of them to be performing on a go-forward basis as mobile becomes immaterial, as we move through the year.

Speaker #4: Okay. Got it. And then as a follow-up, can you just update us on the progress of the $800 architecture opportunity? And can you give us a sense of a timeline on customer decisions?

Kevin Garrigan: Okay, got it. As a follow-up, can you just update us on the progress of the 800V architecture opportunity, and can you give us a sense of a timeline on customer decisions?

Speaker #5: Hi, Kevin. This is Chris. As we talked last time, there's a lot of work going on between us and the hyperscalers—not only one, but multiple of them—on the adoption of the $800 HVDC.

Chris Allexandre: Hi, Kevin, this is Chris. As we talked last time, you know, there's a lot of work going on between us and the hyperscalers. You know, not only one, but multiple of them on the adoption of the 800 volt HVDC. We sampled, as we mentioned in the press release and in the script, some of the new product that will be used in this type of architecture. We also announced a leading edge, you know, 800 volt to 50 volt DC-DC brick that demonstrate the performance we can get with those products. There's a continuation of collaboration.

Speaker #5: We sampled, as we mentioned in the press release and in the script, some of the new products that will be used. In this type of architecture, we also announced a leading-edge $800 to $50 DC-DC brick that demonstrates the performance we can get with those products.

Speaker #5: So there's a continuation of collaboration. It's a bit too early to kind of tell you when this will be confirmed, but I think we are getting closer and closer with our customers.

Chris Allexandre: It's a bit too early to kind of, you know, tell you when this will be confirmed, but I think we are getting closer and closer with our customers.

Speaker #4: Okay. Great. I appreciate the color. Congrats again on the results.

Kevin Garrigan: Okay, great. I appreciate the color. Congrats again on the results.

Speaker #5: Thank you. And the one thing I would add, Kevin, is everybody refers to the $800 HVDC as a step function for power content in the AI data center.

Chris Allexandre: Thank you. The one thing I would add, Kevin, is, you know, everybody refers to the 800V HVDC as a step function for power content in the AI data center, and this is true, especially with the adoption of GaN replacing silicon as you move to the 800V HVDC, right? I would outline that in AIDC, and you heard it from multiple vendors, is that there is an acceleration of demand also in using the classic architecture, which is AC-DC, right? Using SiC, and we see, you know, a growth throughout the year ahead of the step function with GaN in HVDC.

Speaker #5: And this is true. Especially with the adoption of GAN replacing silicon, as you move to the $800 HVDC, right? But I would outline that in AI DC, and you heard it from multiple vendors, is that there is an acceleration of demand also in using the classic architecture, which is ACDC, right?

Speaker #5: Using SIC, and we see a growth throughout the year ahead of the step function with GAN in HVDC.

Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt. Your line is open.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Cassidy with Rosenblatt. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks for taking my question. And congratulations on the progress. Just as you mentioned, you're working with the hyperscalers. Is this are you working directly with them?

Kevin Cassidy: Yeah, thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the progress. Just as you mentioned, you're working with the hyperscalers. Are you working directly with them? Would they be building their own power supplies, or is that gonna be a pull to the, from the current power supplies, suppliers to the hyperscalers?

Speaker #4: Would they be building their own power supplies? Or is that going to be a pull from the current power supplies suppliers to the hyperscalers?

Chris Allexandre: Kevin, it's actually all of the above, okay? The hyperscalers, partially 2, are driving the new architecture, right? Both in term of what they expect, in term of density and power level in the AC-DC PSUs, as well as the 800V, either 50V or even lower voltage, you know, HVDC architecture, right? Now, we don't work only with the hyperscalers. If you think about PSU, which is, you know, clearly designed in OEM and ODM that are serving those hyperscalers, and if you look at the HVDC, a lot of these are our classic merchant power companies serving the hyperscalers, also doing designs on this new architecture. We work with everybody.

Speaker #5: Kevin, it's actually all of the above, okay? So the hyperscalers, particularly two, are driving the new architecture, right? Both in terms of what they expect in terms of density and power level in the AC/DC PSUs.

Speaker #5: As well as the $800 and the $50 or even lower voltage HVDC architecture, right? Now, we don't work only with the hyperscalers. If you think about PSU, which is clearly designed in OEMs and ODMs that are serving those hyperscalers.

Speaker #5: And if you look at the HVDC, a lot of these that are classic merchant power companies serving the hyperscalers are also doing designs on these new architectures.

Speaker #5: So we work with everybody. I would tell you that the drive of the change of the architecture comes from the US and the hyperscalers.

Chris Allexandre: I would tell you that the drive of the change of the architecture comes from the US and the hyperscalers, but a lot of the OEM and ODM in Taiwan, in China, but also in the US, are driving that. As you know, we just announced this board, right, which I mentioned, which was basically a co-development with the customer. That's basically to showcase the level of efficiency you can get by using GaN on the primary side and GaN on the secondary side in 800 volt to 50 volt DC/DC brick. You're going to see more of those reference implementation in the future as well.

Speaker #5: But a lot of the OEM and ODM in Taiwan, in China, but also in the US, are driving that. And as you know, we just announced this board, right, which I mentioned.

Speaker #5: Which was basically a co-development with a customer. And that's basically to showcase the level of efficiency you can get by using GAN on the primary side and GAN on the secondary side in a $800 to $50 DC-DC brick.

Speaker #5: And you're going to see more of those reference implementations in the future as well.

Speaker #4: Okay. Great for that. Thanks for that detail. And have any of your customers or the hyperscalers given you an idea of when that inflection point would be of when they start doing the installations?

Kevin Cassidy: Okay, great for that. Thanks for that detail. Have any of your customers or the hyperscalers, you know, given you an idea of when that inflection point would be, of when they start doing the installations?

Speaker #5: I mean, the thing I would say is, as I said just earlier on Kevin's question, there are two streams, if you prefer, of the AI data center growth.

Chris Allexandre: I mean, the thing I would say is, as I said just earlier on, Kevin's question, there are two stream, if you prefer, of the AI data center growth. Number one is more data centers, more power, and that drives more PSUs, higher power PSUs, and that drive the growth in SiC, which we are seeing throughout 2026. When it comes to the 800V HVDC, which I think is your question, when there is a discontinuity and you cannot use silicon anymore on the primary side because you are 800V and you have to move to a high voltage GaN, this is really driven by not the GPU change, but the rack architecture change.

Speaker #5: Number one is more data centers, more power, and that drives more PSUs, higher-power PSUs, and that drives the growth in SiC, which we are seeing throughout '26.

Speaker #5: When it comes to the $800 HVDC, which I think is your question, when there is a discontinuity and you cannot use silicon anymore on the primary side because your $800 and you have to move to high-voltage GAN, this is really driven by not the GPU change, but the rack architecture change.

Speaker #5: As you compact more GPUs into a single rack, and you get to a megawatt rack, you cannot get the power density and the efficiency with silicon.

Chris Allexandre: As you compact more GPUs into a single rack and you get to megawatt rack, you cannot get the power density and the efficiency with silicon, and that's the discontinuity. I would say, as we said before, this is really about 27. Will GaN be used slightly earlier? It could. There is a case where you can use GaN in the 48V IBC, replacing silicon, as I mentioned in the script, where GaN brings, you know, higher efficiency. You can do it with silicon, but you get higher efficiency, and this might be the first time you see GaN in data centers. The real step function is really coming from the 800V DC, which is really kind of linked to the cable rack, okay? Which is the higher integration of GPUs in 27.

Speaker #5: And that's this discontinuity. I would say, as we said before, this is really about '27. Will GAN be used slightly earlier? It could. There is a case where you can use GAN in the 48-volt IBC replacing silicon as I mentioned in the script, where GAN brings higher efficiency.

Speaker #5: You can do it with silicon, but you get higher efficiency. And this might be the first time you see GaN in data centers. But the real step function is really coming from the $800 DC, which is really kind of linked to the Kyber rack, which is the higher integration of GPUs in '27.

Speaker #4: Okay. Understood. Thank you. And also, I'll give my best wishes to Todd, pleasure working with you.

Kevin Cassidy: Okay, understood. Thank you. Also, I'll give my best wishes to Todd. Pleasure working with you.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Kevin.

Chris Allexandre: Thanks, Kevin.

Operator: Next question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with Needham. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Next question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with Nidam. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Congratulations on the progress on the transformation to Navitas 2.0 and best wishes to you, Todd. I guess, Chris, I wanted to come back on the $800 HVDC solution especially as you think about the primary side or that $800 rail.

Quinn Bolton: Hey, guys. Congratulations on the progress on the transformation to Navitas 2.0, Best wishes to you, Todd. I guess, Chris Allexandre, I wanted to come back on the, you know, 800V HVDC solution, especially as you think about the primary side of that 800V rail. There are still a lot of folks in the industry that I think are talking about using silicon carbide in that 800V conversion step. You guys are obviously, you know, pushing the GaN solution, but I guess, can you say what are you seeing from the leading GPU and hyperscaler vendors that are looking at the 800V or the 400 +/- rack architecture? Are they pushing more for GaN? Are they open to both GaN and silicon carbide solutions?

Speaker #6: There are still a lot of folks in the industry that I think are talking about using silicon carbide in that $800 conversion step. You guys are obviously pushing the GAN solution.

Speaker #6: But I guess, can you say what are you seeing from the leading GPU and hyperscaler vendors that are looking at the $800 or the $400-plus-minus rack architectures?

Speaker #6: Are they pushing more for GaN? Are they open to both GaN and silicon carbide solutions? Just how do you see this playing out from a technology perspective between GaN and silicon carbide?

Quinn Bolton: Just how do you see this playing out from a, you know, technology perspective between GaN and Silicon Carbide?

Speaker #5: Thank you, Quinn. It's a very good question, actually, because I think there is some level of confusion. First of all, I would tell you that we are not pushing anything.

Chris Allexandre: Thank you, Quinn. It's a very good question, actually, because I think there is some level of confusion. First of all, I would tell you that we are not pushing anything. We have both SiC and GaN, and we welcome SiC being used on the primary side if it's needed, and GaN being used on the primary side, if that's needed. We're not pushing anything. We are being pulled. We've not seen any significant use case or board implementation of customer evaluation using SiC on the primary side. SiC is being used widely at 1.2kV, as I mentioned, in the classic AC-DC, right, which is basically prior to the 800V DC.

Speaker #5: We have both SiC and GaN, and we welcome SiC being used on the primary side if it's needed, and GaN being used on the primary side if that's needed.

Speaker #5: So we're not pushing anything. We are being pulled. We've not seen any significant use case or board implementation or customer evaluation using SiC on the primary side.

Speaker #5: SiC is being used widely at 1,200 volts, as I mentioned, in the classic AC-DC, right, which is basically prior to the $800 DC. But when it comes to $800 DC, we've been pulled by customers.

Chris Allexandre: When it comes to 800 VDC, we've been pulled by customers, and I'm talking about hyperscalers, to Kevin's question here, that are really driving the GaN adoption because it's more efficient and more driving higher density.

Speaker #5: And I'm talking about hyperscalers to Kevin's question here. That are really driving the GAN adoption because it's more efficient and more driving higher density.

Speaker #4: Excellent. Okay. And then Chris, you also talked about your 10-kilowatt all-GAN brick solution. Can you give us a sense? Is that more of a reference platform?

Quinn Bolton: I see. Okay. Chris, you also talked about your 10 kilowatt all GaN brick solution. Can you give us a sense, is that more of a reference platform, or would that be a solution that Navitas would look to source that entire brick-level product? I imagine it includes a fair amount of additional componentry, just thinking about, you know, to the extent you're selling the full brick solution, I imagine that might be pretty high dollar content. Could you just talk about whether you would really just sell the GaN solutions as part of that brick? Would you sell the entire brick? If you did sell the entire brick, what would the margin implications be?

Speaker #4: Or would that be a solution that Navitas would look to source, that entire brick-level product? Because I imagine it includes a fair amount of additional componentry.

Speaker #4: And so just thinking about to the extent you're selling the full brick solution, I imagine that might be pretty high-dollar content. So could you just talk about whether you would really just sell the GAN solutions as part of that brick?

Speaker #4: Would you sell the entire brick? And if you did sell the entire brick, what would the margin implications be?

Speaker #5: So. It's a very good question. Thank you, Quinn. We view this as enabling solution, enabling technology, for the customer. So first of all, as I mentioned, this is something we've done with a customer.

Chris Allexandre: It's a very good question. Thank you, Quinn. We view this as enabling solution, enabling technology for the customer. First of all, as I mentioned, this is something we've done with a customer. We have not done that in a vacuum on our own, right? This is something that we've co-developed with a leading customer, number one. Number two is we don't compete with customers, okay? At this stage, we don't see the path where we're gonna sell the modules. Now, that design is shared with our customers and the hyperscalers, as well as the ODM and OEM that are looking at how we've been able to achieve that high level of efficiency, right?

Speaker #5: We have not done that in a vacuum on our own, right? This is something that we've co-developed with the leading customer—number one. Number two is we don't compete with customers, okay?

Speaker #5: At this stage, we don't see a path where we're going to sell the modules. Now, that design is shared with our customers and the hyperscalers as well as the ODM and OEM that are looking at how we've been able to achieve that high level of efficiency, right?

Speaker #5: 98.5%, which we believe, based on what we've seen and some of our competitors' feedback, on top of customers, is one of the best in the industry, right?

Chris Allexandre: 98.5%, which we believe, based on what we've seen and some of our competitors' feedback, on top of customers, are one of the best in the industry, right? I would tell you, this is for us, this is what we've done in GaN historically. We pioneered GaN in mobile by demonstrating and helping customers to get to highest level of efficiency, lowest EMI, highest level of density, and we are doing the same in AI data center. This is what I talk about when we talk about 2.0, we're leveraging the benefit and the skills of 1.0, right? This system expertise makes a difference. At the end of the day, we are in the business of selling GaN and Silicon Carbide and enabling our customers.

Speaker #5: So I would tell you this is for us. This is what we've done in GAN historically. We pioneered GAN in mobile by demonstrating and helping customers to get to highest level of efficiency, lowest EMI, highest level of density.

Speaker #5: And we are doing the same in AI data centers. And this is what I talk about when we talk about 2.0. We're leveraging the benefit and the skills of 1.0, right?

Speaker #5: And this system expertise makes a difference. At the end of the day, we are in the business of selling GAN and silicon carbide and enabling our customers as a matter of fact, on that board, we're using some of our competitors' silicon.

Chris Allexandre: As a matter of fact, on that board, we're using some of our competitors, in our silicon, and other, you know, technologies and product that we don't have. The focus is how to show and help the customers to accelerate the adoption of GaN, in HVDC.

Speaker #5: And other technologies and products that we don't have. But the focus is how to show and help the customers to accelerate the adoption of GAN in HVDC.

Speaker #4: Excellent. Thank you very much, Chris.

Quinn Bolton: Excellent. Thank you very much, Chris.

Speaker #3: Next question comes from the line of John Tanwantang with CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Operator: Next question comes from the line of Jon Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll join the queue, and I wish Todd well on his journey. If you could start, maybe talk a little bit about the competitive landscape in supplying the $800 data center?

Jon Tanwanteng: Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions, and I'll join the queue in, wishing Todd well wishes on his journey. If you could start, maybe talk a little bit about the competitive landscape in supplying the 800 volt data center. What are you seeing just in terms of who you're bidding against in these sockets? If they're, you know, outpricing you or doing better in technology. On top of that, you know, how is your partnership with Infineon evolving in that space as well? Thank you.

Speaker #7: What are you seeing just in terms of who you're bidding against in these sockets? If they're outpricing you or doing better in technology? And on top of that, how is your partnership with Infineon evolving in that space as well?

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Speaker #5: So thank you. For your question, John. So I'll start with the end. We continue our partnership with Infineon. We have a cost license as you know.

Chris Allexandre: Thank you for your question, Jon. I'll start with the end. We continue our partnership with Infineon. We have a cross license, as you know, and we share the same vision, which is to enable the accelerated adoption of GaN and Silicon Carbide in the AIDC, right? SiC as the traditional architecture and GaN in the 800V DC, right? There's a lot of dialogue between the two companies on that front, right? Number two, you know, you will have seen that there are multiple vendors having been listed on the 800V AI factory kind of ecosystem. As a matter of fact, I think it's up to 13 vendors today. We don't see all of them in each of the circuits we target.

Speaker #5: And we share the same vision, which is to enable the accelerated adoption of GaN and silicon carbide in the AI data center, right? So, SiC as the traditional architecture, and GaN in the $800 data center, right?

Speaker #5: So there's a lot of dialogue between the two companies. On that front, right? Number two, you all have seen that there are multiple vendors having been listed on the $800 AI factory kind of ecosystem.

Speaker #5: As a matter of fact, I think it's up to 13 vendors today. But we don't see all of them in each of the socket we target.

Speaker #5: So I would recommend that you look at how many of those 13s are actually in the high-voltage GaN. So how many of them have a 650-volt GaN in the right package to be able to enable $800 HVDC?

Chris Allexandre: I would, you know, I would recommend that you look at how many of those 13 are actually in the high voltage GaN. How many of them have a 650V GaN in the right package to be able to enable 800V HVDC? How many of them have mid-voltage GaN to enable the 50V secondary side? Some of them are listed on as a silicon vendor, okay? We are listed as a GaN vendor. The other thing is, as we talked about SiC being used on the AC/DC as well, there is a natural pool on more SiC as we get to a higher voltage and also outside of data center. To do the 800V HVDC, you need to enable a change of the grid architecture.

Speaker #5: How many of them have mid-voltage GAN to enable the 50-volt secondary side? Some of them are listed as a silicon vendor, okay? We are listed as a GAN vendor.

Speaker #5: The other thing is, as we talked about, SiC being used on the ACDC as well, there is a natural pull on more SiC as we get to a higher voltage.

Speaker #5: And also, outside of data centers, to do the $800 HVDC, you need to enable a change of the grid architecture. This is a pure high-voltage, ultra-high-voltage SIC play.

Chris Allexandre: This is a pure high voltage, old high voltage SiC play. what I'll tell you is, there's a lot of competition, but not everybody is competing on the same thing, and there are not many of the vendors being listed that have both high voltage SiC or ultra-high voltage SiC, either competing in the AC-DC with 1.2 kV or in the grid with 2 kV and above, and adding high voltage and mid voltage GaN. This competition pool is actually being reduced. That's why we are very clear about what we do. We don't play in the silicon, we play in the GaN, high voltage, mid voltage, and in the high voltage and high voltage SiC.

Speaker #5: So, what I would tell you is there's a lot of competition, but not everybody is competing on the same thing. And there are not many of the vendors being listed that have both high-voltage SiC or ultra-high-voltage SiC, as they're competing in the AC/DC with 1.2 kV or in the grid with 2 kV and above.

Speaker #5: And having high-voltage and mid-voltage GaN. So this competition pool is actually being reduced. That's why we are very clear about what we do. We don't play in the silicon.

Speaker #5: We play in the GaN high-voltage, mid-voltage, and in the high-voltage and high-voltage SiC.

Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you. And then second, could you address us on the incremental margin of either this $800 data center products or high-power products in general?

Jon Tanwanteng: Got it. Thank you. Second, could you update us on the incremental margin of either this 800V data center products or high-power products in general, especially as you roll on these suppliers?

Speaker #4: Especially as you roll out new suppliers?

Speaker #5: So first of all, as Todd said, right, we expect continuous gross margin expansion. So remember that the growth this year is coming from all high-power markets.

Chris Allexandre: First of all, as Todd said, right, we expect continuous gross margin expansion. Remember that the growth this year is coming from all high power markets and the basically mobile going down, right? Being less than 25%. What I would tell you is the scale is gonna help more gross margin. As we grow revenue, some of our fixed costs solve that, and that drive margin expansion. Number two is the high power product in the high power market are coming at a higher margin than mobile was, okay? That mix is gonna change. The third one is we are very active in ramping new suppliers, particularly on the package side, that will help us to reduce costs, right?

Speaker #5: And the basically mobile going down, right? Being less than 25%. What I would tell you is the scale is going to help more gross margin.

Speaker #5: As we grow revenue, some of our fixed costs are absorbed, and that drives margin expansion. Number two is the high-power products in the high-power market are coming at higher margin than mobile was, okay?

Speaker #5: And that makes is going to change. And the third one is we are very active in ramping new suppliers partly on the package side that will help us to reduce costs, right?

Speaker #5: So there is multiple aspects of how we are confident to see gross margin expansion as we clearly outline for the rest of '26, right?

Chris Allexandre: There is multiple aspects of how we are confident to see growth margin expansion as we clearly outline for the rest of 2026, right? As we scale further in 2027, we expect that to continue.

Speaker #5: And as we scale further in '27, we expect that to continue.

Speaker #4: Great. Thank you.

Jon Tanwanteng: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #3: And again, if you would like to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from the line of Jack Egan with Charter Equity Research.

Operator: ... If you would like to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from the line of Jack Egan with Charter Equity Research. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks for taking the question. So I had kind of a follow-up on the gross margin question before me. So as mobile is getting smaller and smaller I'm kind of curious about the longer-term outlook.

Jack Egan: Great, thanks for taking the question. I had kind of a follow-up on the gross margin question before me. As mobile is getting smaller and smaller, I'm kind of curious about the longer-term outlook. Are your gross margins more so going to be driven by mix as in, you know, data center and non-data center end market mix? Or is it more kind of the technological innovation, I guess, that Todd mentioned that it sounds like it's referring to new products with higher ASPs. I guess I'm trying to look at what the driver of the margins, you know, that margin expansion is, whether it's end market mix or, you know, better product margins.

Speaker #5: Are your gross margins more so going to be driven by mix as in data center and non-data center end market mix? Or is it more kind of the technological innovation, I guess, that Todd mentioned that it sounds like it's referring to new products with higher ASPs?

Speaker #5: So I guess I'm trying to look at what the driver of the margins—that margin expansion—is, whether it's end-market mix or better product margins.

Speaker #2: So it's actually going to be a combination of both. So definitely end product mix, right? As mobile decreases, the high-power markets are going to give us higher margin.

Todd Glickman: It's actually going to be a combination of both. Definitely end product mix, right? As mobile decreases, the high power markets are going to give us higher margin. Those are more based on reliability and performance. On, as we sort of scale and have these new products come into, you know, the high power markets, we do expect like further expansions through like optimized process, yields, and packaging costs, which will help drive our product costs down, thereby driving our margins up as well.

Speaker #2: Those are more based on reliability and performance. But then on as we sort of scale and have these new products come into the high-power markets, we do expect further expansions through optimized process, yields, and packaging costs, which will help drive our product costs down, thereby driving our margins up as well.

Speaker #5: The one thing I would add, Jack, is okay, scale cost reduction and basically higher margin product, right? As Todd said. But the one thing I would say is that, again, the growth this year and I think we've been very clear that we are very confident that Q4 at the bottom, we are getting up for Q1.

Chris Allexandre: The one thing I would add, Jack Egan, is, okay, scale, cost reduction, and basically higher margin product, right? As Todd Glickman said. The one thing I would say is that, again, the growth this year, and I think we've been very clear that we are very confident that Q4 at the bottom, we are getting up for Q1, and we said we're going to grow quarter-over-quarter throughout the year with margin expansion. I would reemphasize again that the growth is coming from whole high power markets. Yes, AI data center is a big part of the future outlook, and if you look at the SAM that we shared just a few weeks ago, it's nearly, you know, nearly half of the SAM that we see for us in 2030.

Speaker #5: And we said we're going to grow quarter over quarter throughout the year. With margin expansion, I would re-emphasize again that the growth is coming from whole high-power markets.

Speaker #5: Yes, AI data center is a big part of the future outlook. And if you look at the SAM that we shared just a few weeks ago, it's nearly half of the SAM that we see for us in 2030.

Speaker #5: But I would outline that performance computing is growing this year, okay? It will continue to grow, and also help on the margin mix. Grid infrastructure is really accelerating.

Chris Allexandre: I would outline that performance computing is growing this year, okay, it will continue to grow and also help on the margin mix. Grid infrastructure is really accelerating, and I think you're going to see higher ASP product, higher margin product coming in play there, where it's more about reliability and performance and less about cost. Of course, cost matter. As we talked about in AI data center, which is a cost-sensitive market, it's all about efficiency right now, okay? I think you're going to see all those markets contributing to the growth expansion in growth margins, right? I just wanted to kind of calibrate a little bit your question to make sure that we don't see the growth margin expansion only coming from AI data center.

Speaker #5: And I think you're going to see higher ASP product, higher margin product coming in play there, where it's more about reliability, and performance, and less about cost.

Speaker #5: Of course, costs matter. And then as we talked about in AI data center, which is a cost-sensitive market, it's all about efficiency right now, okay?

Speaker #5: And I think you're going to see all those markets contributing to the growth expansion in gross margins, right? So I just wanted to kind of calibrate a little bit your question to make sure that we don't see the growth margin expansion only coming from AI data center.

Speaker #5: Sure, Chris. No, that's super helpful then. And then I guess kind of from a higher level, I know you're not supplying as much into some of the automotive and industrial-type markets, but silicon carbide has gone through just broadly speaking, has gone through a period of pretty significant oversupply.

Jack Egan: Sure, Chris. No, that's super helpful then. Then I guess kind of from a higher level, you know, I know you're not supplying as much into some of the, you know, automotive and industrial type markets, but, you know, Silicon Carbide has gone through, just broadly speaking, a period of pretty significant oversupply. I was just kind of curious, what are your expectations on when that supply and demand and some of the other markets might balance out, you know, whether for Navitas or whether the industry as a whole? I know that you're dealing with some, you know, large volume wins that so it might not as apply to you as much, but just, you know, any commentary there would be helpful.

Speaker #5: And so I was just kind of curious, what are your expectations on when that supply and demand, and some of the other markets, might balance out?

Speaker #5: Whether for Navitas or whether the industry as a whole. I know that you're dealing with some large volume wins that so it might not as apply to you as much, but just any commentary there would be helpful.

Speaker #2: I mean, to be honest with you, John, I know. I think, first of all, as an industry veteran, I would say it's going to take some time.

Chris Allexandre: I mean, to be honest with you, Jon, I know. I think first of all, as an industry, you know, veteran, I would say it's going to take some time, but I think you should ask that to the vendors that are supplying the EV. We don't. We don't play in the same league of SiC, okay? You've seen me being very clear about the fact that we compete and focus on 1.2 kV for the PSUs, for AI data center, and 2 kV and above, up to 5 kV and even more for the grid. This is where, you know, this is not about scale of supply. This is about how reliable and efficient and high performance is your technology.

Speaker #2: But I think you should ask that to the vendors that are supplying the EV. We don't. We don't play in the same league as SIC, okay?

Speaker #2: You've seen me being very clear. But the fact that we compete and focus on 1,200 V for the PSUs for AI data center, and 2,000 V and above—up to 5,000 V and even more—for the grid.

Speaker #2: This is where this is not about scale of supply. This is about how reliable, and efficient, and high-performance is your technology. So I think for some of the SiC vendors operating at 450 volts, 650 volts, 800 volts, focusing on EV, that's a valid concern.

Chris Allexandre: I think for some of the SiC vendors operating at 450V, 650V, 800V, focusing on EV, that's a valid concern. For us, it's about scaling with the ultra high voltage, okay? Which is nothing really related to supply at this stage.

Speaker #2: For us, it's about scaling with the ultra-high voltage, okay? Which is nothing really related to supply at this stage.

Speaker #5: Got it. Thanks, Chris.

Jack Egan: Got it. Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #3: Next question comes from the line of Richard Shannon with Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Operator: Next question comes from the line of Richard Shannon with Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: Well, great, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Apologies to the ambient noise. It just jumped off a plane here, and I missed a bit of the call here.

Richard Shannon: Well, great, guys, thanks for taking my questions. Apologies to ambient noise. I just jumped off a plane here, and I missed a bit of the call here, so hope I don't repeat any questions here. Chris, one thing I'd love to ask you is, in the AI data center opportunity here, to what degree are your opportunities coming from your partnership and kind of drafting behind, if you will, from Infineon versus other ways? Also, is there any, you know, cross-fertilization of wins within the rack, you know, between point of load and the 800 volt down, do those kind of cross-fertilize and give you additional benefit at all?

Speaker #4: So, hope I don't repeat any questions here. But Chris, one thing I'd love to ask you is, in the AI data center opportunity here, to what degree are your opportunities coming from your partnership and kind of drafting behind, if you will, from Infineon versus other ways?

Speaker #4: And then also, are there any cross-fertilization of wins within the rack? Between point of load and the 800-volt down, do those kind of cross-fertilize and give you additional benefit at all?

Speaker #5: So very good question. As I mentioned, we partner with Infineon. We have a cross-license. We've done that a couple of years ago. We continue to drive collaboration to enable GAN adoption, both the high voltage and mid voltage.

Chris Allexandre: You know, very good question. As I mentioned, we partner with Infineon. We have a cross license. We've done that a couple of years ago. We continue to drive collaboration to enable GaN adoption, both the high voltage and mid voltage. I would say that we don't leverage or benefit from Infineon. What you will see is, I think I got a question earlier from Kevin, who are you bumping into most of the time? I would say, you know, it's probably Infineon and surely Infineon, because they have the same vision. They have the same technology, you know, high voltage GaN, mid voltage GaN, and SiC, and all high voltage SiC as well for the grid infrastructure. There are very similarities.

Speaker #5: I would say that we don't leverage or benefit from Infineon. What you will see is, I think I got a question earlier from Kevin.

Speaker #5: Who are you bumping into? Most of the time, I would say it's probably Infineon. And surely Infineon, because they have the same vision. They have the same technology: high-voltage GaN, mid-voltage GaN, and SiC.

Speaker #5: And ultra-high voltage SIC as well for the grid infrastructure. So they're very similarities. So we bump into each other. We follow each other. But I would not say that we leverage Infineon, right?

Chris Allexandre: We bump into each other, we follow each other, but I would not say that we leverage Infineon, right? Now, interestingly enough, when we released the package, we found that we, because we talk to the same customers, we think the same way, is, you know, we end up seeing the technology the same way. That's what I would say. On your question about expansion of portfolio, that's something we are looking at. My focus right now was to pivot the company, okay? Put every eggs we have, every engineer we have, every focus we have on the four high power markets and the high voltage GaN and high, and GaN and high voltage SiC. We are looking at opportunity to expand the portfolio.

Speaker #5: Now, interestingly enough, when we release a package, we found that because we talk to the same customers, we think the same way, so we end up seeing the technology the same way.

Speaker #5: That's what I would say. On your question about expansion of the portfolio, that's something we are looking at. My focus right now was to pivot the company.

Speaker #5: Okay? And put every egg we have, every engineer we have, every focus we have on the four high-power markets and the high-voltage GaN and high-voltage SiC.

Speaker #5: But we are looking at opportunity to expand the portfolio. As you get higher voltage, in the data center, you're going to need circuit protection.

Chris Allexandre: As you get higher voltage in the data center, you're gonna need circuit protection, and that's something we're gonna look at in the future, right? For now, we are laser focused on execution with the product we have and we just released.

Speaker #5: And that's something we're going to look at in the future, right? But for now, we are laser-focused on execution with the product we have.

Speaker #5: And we just released. Okay. Fair enough. Thanks for that, Chris. And the second question probably for Todd. Just on gross margins, if I caught the end of his prepared to march, talked about not having enough scale to really drive leverage on gross margins quite yet here.

Richard Shannon: Okay, fair enough. Thanks for that, Christian. The second question, probably for Todd, just on the gross margins. If I caught, is the end of this prepared remarks, talked about not having enough scale to really drive leverage on gross margins quite yet here. Is there a revenue level by which that happens here, and kind of what's that fall-through margin when you start to see that trajectory?

Speaker #5: Is there a revenue level by which that happens here and kind of what's that fall-through margin when you start to see that trajectory?

Speaker #2: Yeah. That's a great question. As our mix changes, obviously, our margins will grow. But right now, we have that scale issue. We do see margins starting to expand again in Q2 and beyond.

Todd Glickman: Yeah, that's a great question. As our mix changes, obviously our margins will grow, but right now we have that scale issue. We do see margins starting to expand again in Q2 and beyond. That's sort of the tripping point right now.

Speaker #2: So that's sort of the tripping point right now.

Speaker #5: What I would tell you, Jack, is what I would tell you, Jack, is the high-power markets and the high-power product in the high-power market are coming at higher margin.

Richard Shannon: Okay, fair enough. Thanks for that.

Chris Allexandre: What I would tell you, Jack, is the high power markets and the high power product in the high power market are coming at higher margin. The mobile is going down. We said that in Q4 it was 25%, and we said it's gonna continue to go down and get insignificant by the end of 2026, right? I think we are very confident that the mix of the mix change, the higher power product in the high power market increase as a percentage of the company, and the new product and the cost reduction we have will yield to gross margin expansion. You'll see it loud and clear, okay? Starting not very far from now.

Speaker #5: The mobile is going down. We said that in Q4, it was 25%. And we said it's going to continue to go down and get insignificant by the end of '26, right?

Speaker #5: So I think we are very confident that the mix of the mix change, the higher-power product in the high-power market increase, as a percentage of the company, and the new product and the cost reduction we have, will yield to gross margin expansion.

Speaker #5: So you'll see it light and clear, okay? Starting not very far from now.

Speaker #4: Okay. Appreciate that detail. And Todd, good luck on your next endeavor. Thank you.

Richard Shannon: Okay, appreciate that detail, and, Todd, good luck on your next endeavor. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Our last question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with Ninam. Your line is open.

Operator: Our last question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with Needham. Your line is open.

Quinn Bolton: Hey, thanks for taking that follow-up question. Chris, you spent a lot of time talking about, you know, the 800V data center opportunity. You also talked about, you know, needing to rearchitect the grid, and I just wondering if you could spend a second talking about the opportunity for the high voltage silicon carbide and the solid-state transformers. Where are you in the design process for some of those solid-state transformers? Is there a way you can ballpark, like, what's the dollar content opportunity? I don't know if it's on a per megawatt basis or a per unit basis, but is there a way to size, you know, what the, you know, the amount of high voltage SiC that goes into a solid-state transformer as those start to be deployed as the grid is rearchitected?

Speaker #4: Hey, thanks for taking that follow-up question. Chris, you spent a lot of time talking about the high the 800-volt data center opportunity. But you also talked about needing to re-architect the grid.

Speaker #4: And I just wondered if you could spend a second talking about the opportunity for the high-voltage silicon carbide and the solid-state transformer. Where are you in the design process for some of those solid-state transformers?

Speaker #4: And is there a way you can ballpark what's the dollar content opportunity? I don't know if it's on a per-megawatt basis or a per-unit basis.

Speaker #4: But is there a way to size what the amount of high-voltage SIC that goes into a solid-state transformer as those start to be deployed as the grid is re-architected?

Speaker #5: Thank you, Quinn, for this follow-up question. Actually, I'm glad you asked that question because everybody focused on AI DC data center. And everybody's focusing on the 800-volt HVDC architecture, which is important because it's a discontinuity in the architecture.

Chris Allexandre: Thank you, Quinn, for this follow-up question. Actually, I'm glad you asked that question because everybody focuses on AC-DC data center. Everybody's focusing on the 800V HVDC architecture, which is important because it's a discontinuity in the architecture. It's a replacement of silicon by GaN, right, or by high voltage technology. None of this is possible if the grid is not changing. This is not just about getting a more efficient grid, it's a change of the architecture. You refer to SSTs, which is basically getting from 35,000V AC, super high power, high voltage lines, down to 800V DC at the highest level of reliability. That drives a change. I tell you, I've never seen the grid infrastructure changing that fast.

Speaker #5: It's a replacement of silicon by GAN, right, or by high-voltage technology. But none of this is possible if the grid is not changing. And this is not just about getting a more efficient grid.

Speaker #5: It's a change of the architecture. And you refer to SSDs, which is basically getting from 35,000-volt AC super high-power, high-voltage lines down to 800-volt DC at the highest level of reliability.

Speaker #5: That drives a change. And I tell you, I've never seen the grid infrastructure changing that fast. So you ask me, and I think we said it in the script.

Chris Allexandre: You ask me, and I think we said it in the script and in the press release, we are accelerating the sampler, the sampling of our 2.3 kV and 3.2 kV. Applications are any grid type application. SST, of course, but battery energy storage system, megawatt chargers, solar farm at the grid, tide level. Any of those application are in accelerated designs. We are very busy talking to all those customers. That's why I said it's 2 legs, okay? We have 4 high power market, but if I look at the future, those 2 legs, the AIDC and the grid, are equally important. This is a pure high voltage SiC play. To the earlier question about EV, this is not the same technology, because what you have to deliver is high reliability, technology, high reliable modules.

Speaker #5: And in the press release, we are accelerating the sampling of our 2.3 kV and 3.2 kV. Applications are any grid-type application. SSD, of course, but battery-energy system, megawatt chargers, solar farm at the grid-type level, any of those applications are in accelerated designs.

Speaker #5: We are very busy talking to all those customers. That's why I said it's two legs, okay? We have four high-power markets. But if I look at the future, those two legs, the AI DC and the grid, are equally important.

Speaker #5: And this is a pure high-voltage SiC play. And to the earlier question about EV, this is not the same technology, because what you have to deliver is high-reliability technology, high-reliable modules.

Speaker #5: So it's a different play, right? So I'm glad you asked the question. We see an accelerated design momentum. Of course, it's going to take time.

Chris Allexandre: It's a different play, right? I'm glad you asked the question. We see an accelerated design momentum. Of course, it's gonna take time. This is longer design cycle than computing. It's longer design cycle than AC-DC, but I think you'll start to see a significant revenue growth starting 2027. To your question about content, in the last investor meeting we had, we basically referred to $25,000 to $35,000 per megawatt of total content for Navitas as a SAM, which is based again on ultra high voltage, high voltage SiC, so 1.2 kV and 2 kV and above, and GaN. About, you know, 10 to 12 is actually outside of data center. You think about 25 to 35, 10 to 12 of this is outside of data center, which is purely SST, BSS, and all those applications, right?

Speaker #5: This is longer design cycle than computing. It's a longer design cycle than AI DC. But I think you'll start to see a significant revenue growth starting in '27.

Speaker #5: To your question about content, in the last investor meeting we had, we basically referred to 25 to 35 thousand dollars per megawatt of total content for Navitas as a SAM.

Speaker #5: Which is based again on ultra-high voltage, high-voltage SIC, so 1.2 kV and 2 kV and above. And GAN. And about 10 to 12 is actually outside of data center.

Speaker #5: So you think about 25 to 35, 10 to 12 of this is outside of data center, which is purely SSD, BSS, and all those applications, right?

Speaker #5: So and again, inside data center, you have a share between SIC for PSUs and GAN as you move to 800-volt DC. But we should not underestimate the importance and the potential of the grid infrastructure.

Chris Allexandre: And again, inside data center, you have a share between SiC for PSUs and GaN as you move to 800VDC. We should not underestimate the importance and the potential of the grid infrastructure. As a matter of fact, we released a couple of weeks ago a detailed SAM analysis that shows that GaN and SiC of 50%, okay, in 2030, in term of the potential for Navitas to the $3.5 billion that we referred earlier. You can see that the grid is not far off the SAM of data center. The other thing I would say is, this is just the beginning.

Speaker #5: As a matter of fact, we released a couple of weeks ago a detailed SAM analysis that shows that both GAN and SIC are 50/50 percent, okay, in 2030 in terms of the potential for in terms of the potential for Navitas to the 3.5 billion that we referred earlier.

Speaker #5: And you can see that the grid is not far off the SAM of data center. And the other thing I would say is, this is just the beginning.

Speaker #5: So if you think about grid, this is a multiple-decade transformation. That will drive higher voltage continuously. We start with 2 kV. We're getting to 3 kV.

Chris Allexandre: If you think about grid, this is a multiple decade transformation that will drive higher voltage continuously. We start with 2 kV, we're getting to 3 kV, we're going to get to 5 kV and above. That's going to drive transformation for the next multiple decades.

Speaker #5: We're going to get to 5 kV and above. And that's going to drive transformation for the next multiple decades.

Speaker #4: Excellent. Thank you.

David Brown: Excellent. Thank you.

Quinn Bolton: Excellent. Thank you.

Speaker #3: That concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to the management team for closing remarks.

Operator: That concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to the management team for closing remarks.

Speaker #5: Thank you, everybody, for attending this call. As you could tell, we are very proud of the progress we are making. The first five months, and six months since I joined, was about pivoting the company and being clear about where we are going.

Chris Allexandre: Thank you, everybody, for attending this call. As you could tell, we are very proud of the progress we are making. The first 5 months and 6 months, since I joined, was about pivoting the company and being clear about where we are going. I think we've done that. We are focusing on accelerating samples of our technology. We have 4 pillars of the transformation, which I mentioned: market focus, technology, leadership, you know, operational efficiency, and financial discipline. We'll continue to update you on how we make progress. I think we have a bright future ahead of us.

Speaker #5: I think we've done that. We are focusing on accelerating samples of our technology. We have four pillars of the transformation, which I mentioned: market focus, technology, leadership, and operational efficiency and financial discipline.

Speaker #5: And we'll continue to update you on how we make progress. And I think we have a bright future ahead of us.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining in. You may now disconnect.

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