Q4 2025 ARMOUR Residential REIT Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good day. Welcome to the ARMOUR Residential REIT Q4, 2025 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal the conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0.

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Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Good morning and welcome to ARMOUR Residential REIT Q4, 2025 conference call. This morning, I'm joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Gordon Harper. As well as our Co-Chief Investment Officers, Sergey Losyev and Desmond Macauley.

Scott Ulm: Good morning, and welcome to ARMOUR Residential REIT's Q4 2025 conference call. This morning I'm joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Gordon Harper, as well as our Co-Chief Investment Officers, Sergey Losyev and Desmond Macauley. I'll now turn the call over to Gordon to run through the financial results.

Scott Ulm: Good morning, and welcome to ARMOUR Residential REIT's Q4 2025 conference call. This morning I'm joined by our Chief Financial Officer, Gordon Harper, as well as our Co-Chief Investment Officers, Sergey Losyev and Desmond Macauley. I'll now turn the call over to Gordon to run through the financial results.

Speaker #2: I'll now turn the call over to Gordon to run through the financial results.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Scott. By now, everyone has access to ARMOUR's earnings release, which can be found on ARMOUR's website, www.armourreit.com. This conference call includes forward-looking statements, which are intended to be subject to the Safe Harbor protection provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Gordon Harper: Thank you, Scott. By now, everyone has access to ARMOUR's earnings release, which can be found on ARMOUR's website, www.armourreit.com. This conference call includes forward-looking statements, which are intended to be subject to the safe harbor protection provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The Risk Factors section of ARMOUR's periodic reports, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, describe certain factors beyond ARMOUR's control that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these forward-looking statements.

Gordon Harper: Thank you, Scott. By now, everyone has access to ARMOUR's earnings release, which can be found on ARMOUR's website, www.armourreit.com. This conference call includes forward-looking statements, which are intended to be subject to the safe harbor protection provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The Risk Factors section of ARMOUR's periodic reports, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, describe certain factors beyond ARMOUR's control that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #3: The risk factors section of ARMOUR's periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission describes certain factors beyond ARMOUR's control that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #3: Those periodic filings can be found on the SEC's website at www.sec.gov. All of today's forward-looking statements are subject to change without notice. We disclaim any obligation to update them unless required by law.

Gordon Harper: Those periodic filings can be found on the SEC's website at www.sec.gov. All of today's forward-looking statements are subject to change without notice. We disclaim any obligation to update them unless required by law. Also, today's discussion refers to certain non-GAAP measures. These measures are reconciled with comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. An online replay of this conference call will be available on ARMOUR's website shortly and will continue for one year. Q4 was a strong quarter for ARMOUR, with a total economic return of 10.63% for the quarter, as we benefited from MBS spreads tightening, lower MBS volatility, and a lower interest rate environment.

Gordon Harper: Those periodic filings can be found on the SEC's website at www.sec.gov. All of today's forward-looking statements are subject to change without notice. We disclaim any obligation to update them unless required by law. Also, today's discussion refers to certain non-GAAP measures. These measures are reconciled with comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. An online replay of this conference call will be available on ARMOUR's website shortly and will continue for one year. Q4 was a strong quarter for ARMOUR, with a total economic return of 10.63% for the quarter, as we benefited from MBS spreads tightening, lower MBS volatility, and a lower interest rate environment.

Speaker #3: Also, today's discussion refers to certain non-GAAP measures. These measures are reconciled with comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release. An online replay of this conference call will be available on ARMOUR's website shortly and will continue for one year.

Speaker #3: Q4 was a strong quarter for ARMOUR, with a total economic return of 10.63% for the quarter as we benefited from MBS spreads tightening, lower MBS volatility, and a lower interest rate environment.

Speaker #3: The market momentum we saw in Q4 has continued so far into Q1. ARMOUR's Q4 GAAP net income available to common stockholders was $208.7 million, or $1.86 per share.

Gordon Harper: The market momentum we saw in Q4 has continued so far into Q1. ARMOUR's Q4 GAAP net income available to common stockholders was $208.7 million or $1.86 per share. Net interest income was $50.4 million. Distributable earnings available to common stockholders was $79.8 million or $0.71 per common share. This non-GAAP measure is defined as net interest income plus TBA drop income, adjusted for interest income or expense on our interest rate swaps and futures contracts, minus net operating expenses.

Gordon Harper: The market momentum we saw in Q4 has continued so far into Q1. ARMOUR's Q4 GAAP net income available to common stockholders was $208.7 million or $1.86 per share. Net interest income was $50.4 million. Distributable earnings available to common stockholders was $79.8 million or $0.71 per common share. This non-GAAP measure is defined as net interest income plus TBA drop income, adjusted for interest income or expense on our interest rate swaps and futures contracts, minus net operating expenses.

Speaker #3: Net interest income was $50.4 million, distributable earnings available to common stockholders was $79.8 million, or $71 cents per common share. This non-GAAP measure is defined as net interest income plus TBA drawn income, adjusted for interest income or expense on our interest rate swaps and futures contracts, minus net operating expenses.

Speaker #3: Quarter-end book value was $18.63, per common share, up 6.5% from September 30th. Our most recent current available estimate of book value as of Tuesday, February 17th, was $18.37, per common share, which reflects the payment of our January dividend of $24 and the accrual of the entire February common dividend payable on February 27th, 2026.

Gordon Harper: Quarter-end book value was $18.63 per common share, up 6.5% from 30 September. Our most recent current available estimate of book value as of Tuesday, 17 February was $18.37 per common share, which reflects the payment of our January dividend of $0.24 per-... and the accrual of the entire February common dividend payable on 27 February 2026, again, of $0.24 per common share. During Q4, ARMOUR raised approximately $3.8 million of capital by issuing approximately 183,000 shares of preferred stock through an at-the-market offering program.

Gordon Harper: Quarter-end book value was $18.63 per common share, up 6.5% from 30 September. Our most recent current available estimate of book value as of Tuesday, 17 February was $18.37 per common share, which reflects the payment of our January dividend of $0.24 per-... and the accrual of the entire February common dividend payable on 27 February 2026, again, of $0.24 per common share. During Q4, ARMOUR raised approximately $3.8 million of capital by issuing approximately 183,000 shares of preferred stock through an at-the-market offering program.

Speaker #3: Again, of $24 per common share. During Q4, ARMOUR raised approximately $3.8 million of capital by issuing approximately $183,000 shares of preferred stock through an at-the-market offering program.

Speaker #3: Through February 11th, 2026, we've raised approximately $138 million of capital under a common at-the-market program by issuing approximately $7.5 million shares of common stock, which is mildly dilutive.

Gordon Harper: Through 11 February 2026, we've raised approximately $138 million of capital under our common at-the-market program, by issuing approximately 7.5 million shares of common stock, which is mildly dilutive.We also issued $4.8 million of capital from the issuance of 230,000 shares of preferred stock under our preferred at-the-market program. ARMOUR paid monthly common dividends per share of $0.24 per common share per month, for a total of $0.72 for the quarter. As we have stated previously, we aim to pay an attractive dividend that is appropriate in the context and stable over the medium term. On 29 January, we paid a cash dividend of $0.24 per outstanding common share to the holders of record as of 15 January 2026. We have also declared cash dividends of $0.24 per outstanding common share, payable on 27 February 2026, and 30 March 2026, to holders of record on 17 February and 16 March, respectively.

Gordon Harper: Through 11 February 2026, we've raised approximately $138 million of capital under our common at-the-market program, by issuing approximately 7.5 million shares of common stock, which is mildly dilutive. We also issued $4.8 million of capital from the issuance of 230,000 shares of preferred stock under our preferred at-the-market program. ARMOUR paid monthly common dividends per share of $0.24 per common share per month, for a total of $0.72 for the quarter. As we have stated previously, we aim to pay an attractive dividend that is appropriate in the context and stable over the medium term.

Speaker #3: We also issued $4.8 million of capital from the issuance of $230,000 shares of preferred stock under our preferred at-the-market program. ARMOUR paid monthly common dividends per share of $24 per common share per month for a total of $72 for the quarter.

Speaker #3: As we've stated previously, we aim to pay an attractive dividend that is appropriate in the context and stable over the medium term. On January 29th, we paid a cash dividend of $24 per outstanding common share to the holders of record on January 15th, 2026.

Gordon Harper: On 29 January, we paid a cash dividend of $0.24 per outstanding common share to the holders of record as of 15 January 2026. We have also declared cash dividends of $0.24 per outstanding common share, payable on 27 February 2026, and 30 March 2026, to holders of record on 17 February and 16 March, respectively. I will now turn the call back over to CEO, Scott Ulm, to discuss ARMOUR's portfolio position and current strategy.

Speaker #3: We have also declared cash dividends of $24 per outstanding common share payable on February 27th, 2026, and March 30th, 2026, to holders of record on February 17th and March 16th, respectively.

Speaker #3: I will now turn the call back over to CEO Scott Ulm to discuss ARMOUR's portfolio position and current strategy.

Gordon Harper: I will now turn the call back over to CEO, Scott Ulm, to discuss ARMOUR's portfolio position and current strategy.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Gordon.

Scott Ulm: Thank you, Gordon. ARMOUR delivered a robust fourth quarter, marking a 6.5% increase in book value in the fourth quarter. The strong growth extended to our balance sheet. The portfolio grew for a second consecutive quarter, increasing by more than 10% from the end of Q3 2025, driven by roughly 22 basis points of spread tightening, while maintaining moderate leverage throughout the quarter. ARMOUR's mortgage assets now total over $20 billion, supported by a strong capital liquidity position of approximately 54% of total shareholders' equity as of the end of January. We viewed Agency MBS as a high conviction opportunity from the onset of the Fed's easing cycle in Q3 2024, and the backdrop for 2026 has now turned materially more supportive.

Scott Ulm: Thank you, Gordon. ARMOUR delivered a robust fourth quarter, marking a 6.5% increase in book value in the fourth quarter. The strong growth extended to our balance sheet. The portfolio grew for a second consecutive quarter, increasing by more than 10% from the end of Q3 2025, driven by roughly 22 basis points of spread tightening, while maintaining moderate leverage throughout the quarter. ARMOUR's mortgage assets now total over $20 billion, supported by a strong capital liquidity position of approximately 54% of total shareholders' equity as of the end of January.

Speaker #3: ARMOUR REIT delivered a robust fourth-quarter marking a 6.5% increase in book value in the fourth quarter. The strong growth extended to our balance sheet, the portfolio grew for a second consecutive quarter, increasing by more than 10% from the end of the third quarter of 2025, driven by roughly $22 basis points of spread tightening, while maintaining moderate leverage throughout the quarter.

Speaker #3: ARMOUR's mortgage assets now total over $20 billion. Supported by a strong capital liquidity position of approximately $54% of total shareholders' equity as of the end of January.

Speaker #3: We viewed agency MBS as a high conviction opportunity from the onset of the Fed's easing cycle in the third quarter of 2024, and the backdrop for 2026 is now turned materially more supportive.

Scott Ulm: We viewed Agency MBS as a high conviction opportunity from the onset of the Fed's easing cycle in Q3 2024, and the backdrop for 2026 has now turned materially more supportive. Despite spreads tightening, tightening meaningfully so far in 2026, the market's appeal remains anchored in declining rate volatility and easing funding costs, supported by the Fed's efforts to lower rates and maintain ample banking liquidity. While prepayments have moved off their cyclical lows of recent years, they remain contained, with primary mortgage rates still anchored around 6%.

Speaker #3: Despite spreads tightening meaningfully so far in 2026, the market's appeal remains anchored in declining rate volatility and easing funding costs, supported by the Fed's efforts to lower rates and maintain ample banking liquidity.

Scott Ulm: Despite spreads tightening, tightening meaningfully so far in 2026, the market's appeal remains anchored in declining rate volatility and easing funding costs, supported by the Fed's efforts to lower rates and maintain ample banking liquidity. While prepayments have moved off their cyclical lows of recent years, they remain contained, with primary mortgage rates still anchored around 6%. Add in a steeper yield curve, and the result is a market that we expect to continue to favor MBS, with compelling returns relative to returns in corporate credit, where spreads are trading at historically tight valuations. Technical supply and demand dynamics are now working with us, not against us. The administration's focus on lowering mortgage spreads reinforces a clear North Star for a stable mortgage market, an objective we expect Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to support through FHFA's $200 billion MBS purchase mandate.

Speaker #3: While prepayments have moved off their cyclical lows of recent years, they remain contained, with primary mortgage rates still anchored around 6%. Add in a steeper yield curve and the result is a market that we expect to continue to favor MBS with compelling returns relative to returns in corporate credit, where spreads are trading at historically tight valuations.

Scott Ulm: Add in a steeper yield curve, and the result is a market that we expect to continue to favor MBS, with compelling returns relative to returns in corporate credit, where spreads are trading at historically tight valuations. Technical supply and demand dynamics are now working with us, not against us. The administration's focus on lowering mortgage spreads reinforces a clear North Star for a stable mortgage market, an objective we expect Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to support through FHFA's $200 billion MBS purchase mandate.

Speaker #3: Technical supply and demand dynamics are now working with us, not against us. The administration's focus on lowering mortgage spreads reinforces a clear North Star for a stable mortgage market and objective we expect Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to support through FIFA's $200 billion MBS purchase mandate.

Speaker #3: The GSEs have posted strong monthly purchases of mortgage assets throughout last year, while net issuance of conventional MBS remained negative in the fourth quarter.

Scott Ulm: The GSEs have posted strong monthly purchases of mortgage assets throughout last year, while net issuance of conventional MBS remained negative in the fourth quarter. The imbalance has revived attractive returns in the TBA roll market, creating a liquid carry environment and expanding the buyer base for agency MBS. I'll now turn it over to Desmond for more detail on our portfolio.

Scott Ulm: The GSEs have posted strong monthly purchases of mortgage assets throughout last year, while net issuance of conventional MBS remained negative in the fourth quarter. The imbalance has revived attractive returns in the TBA roll market, creating a liquid carry environment and expanding the buyer base for agency MBS. I'll now turn it over to Desmond for more detail on our portfolio.

Speaker #3: The imbalance has revived attractive returns in the TBA roll market, creating a liquid carry environment and expanding the buyer base for agency MBS. I'll now turn it over to Desmond for more detail on our portfolio.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Scott.

Desmond Macauley: Thanks, Scott. ARMOUR's most recent net balance sheet duration stands at 0.14 years, with a modest positive bias to the front end of the curve, consistent with easing monetary policy. Implied leverage, excluding Treasury longs, is 7.9 times, a balanced posture that reflects tighter spreads and a lower volatility backdrop versus the prior year. The portfolio remains nearly 100% agency MBS, agency CMBS, or DOS, and US Treasuries to target specific yield curve exposures. Consistent with our balance sheet growth, we added over $3 billion of MBS pools and DOS across Q4 and early Q1, and our purchase mix has evolved as rates and spreads have moved. Early in Q4, we determined it was most attractive to overweight premium dollar MBS, which offered the most attractive spreads and yields.

Desmond Macaulay: Thanks, Scott. ARMOUR's most recent net balance sheet duration stands at 0.14 years, with a modest positive bias to the front end of the curve, consistent with easing monetary policy. Implied leverage, excluding Treasury longs, is 7.9 times, a balanced posture that reflects tighter spreads and a lower volatility backdrop versus the prior year. The portfolio remains nearly 100% agency MBS, agency CMBS, or DOS, and US Treasuries to target specific yield curve exposures. Consistent with our balance sheet growth, we added over $3 billion of MBS pools and DOS across Q4 and early Q1, and our purchase mix has evolved as rates and spreads have moved.

Speaker #3: ARMOUR's most recent net balance sheet duration stands at 0.14 years, with a modest positive bias to the front end of the curve consistent with easing monetary policy.

Speaker #3: Implied leverage, excluding Treasury longs, is 7.9 times—a balanced posture that reflects tighter spreads and a lower volatility backdrop versus the prior year. The portfolio remains nearly 100% agency MBS, agency CMBS, or DUS, and U.S. Treasuries to target specific yield curve exposures.

Speaker #3: Consistent with our balance sheet growth, we added over $3 billion of MBS posed on DOS across the fourth quarter and early first quarter. And our purchase mix has evolved as rates and spreads have moved.

Speaker #3: Early in the fourth quarter, we determined it was most attractive to overweight premium dollar MBS, which offered the most attractive spreads in years. Anticipating that GSE purchases would most likely concentrate in near-pack coupons where the impact on primary mortgage rates is most direct, we added over $1 billion of $4.5 and $5 coupon MBS ahead of Trump's GSE announcement in early January.

Desmond Macaulay: Early in Q4, we determined it was most attractive to overweight premium dollar MBS, which offered the most attractive spreads and yields. Anticipating that GSE purchases would most likely concentrate in near-par coupons, where the impact on primary mortgage rates is most direct, we added over $1 billion of 4.5 and 5 coupon MBS ahead of Trump's GSE announcement in early January. As belly coupons tightened to historically rich levels to near single-digit OAS, we shifted toward lower coupons and seasoned collateral, where affordability initiatives aimed at unfreezing the housing market could drive higher turnover speeds while preserving higher yields in deeper discount MBS.

Desmond Macauley: Anticipating that GSE purchases would most likely concentrate in near-par coupons, where the impact on primary mortgage rates is most direct, we added over $1 billion of 4.5 and 5 coupon MBS ahead of Trump's GSE announcement in early January. As belly coupons tightened to historically rich levels to near single-digit OAS, we shifted toward lower coupons and seasoned collateral, where affordability initiatives aimed at unfreezing the housing market could drive higher turnover speeds while preserving higher yields in deeper discount MBS. Within premium bonds, we focused more on call protection in higher tier maximum loan size pools, while keeping payoff targets at 24 ticks or lower. In Agency CMBS, our five-year DOS position experienced extreme spread tightening. On a relative value basis, 10-year DOS bonds now screen more attractive, particularly when hedged with longer-dated SOFR swaps, with pay fixed rates still cheaper than Treasury hedges....

Speaker #3: As belly coupons tightened to historically rich levels, to near single-digit OAS, we shifted toward lower coupons and seasoned collateral where affordability initiatives aimed at unfreezing the housing market could drive higher turnover speeds while preserving higher yields in deeper discount MBS.

Desmond Macaulay: Within premium bonds, we focused more on call protection in higher tier maximum loan size pools, while keeping payoff targets at 24 ticks or lower. In Agency CMBS, our five-year DOS position experienced extreme spread tightening. On a relative value basis, 10-year DOS bonds now screen more attractive, particularly when hedged with longer-dated SOFR swaps, with pay fixed rates still cheaper than Treasury hedges.... Roughly 86% of our hedges are in OIS and SOFR pay fix swaps, with a balance in treasury futures.

Speaker #3: Within premium bonds, we focused more on call protection in higher-tier maximum loan size pools. While keeping payoff targets at 24 ticks or lower, in agency CMBS, our five-year DOS position experienced extreme spread tightening.

Speaker #3: On a relative value basis, 10-year DOS bonds now screen more attractive particularly when hedged with longer-dated Sophra swaps, with pay fixed rates still cheaper than Treasury hedges.

Speaker #3: Roughly 86% of our hedges are in OIS and SOFR pay-fixed swaps, with a balance in Treasury futures. The benchmark 10-year SOFR swap spread has normalized back to its pre-libration day average of approximately -37 basis points, and we anticipate further gains will likely hinge on the path of policy debate around the Fed's desired balance sheet size and banking deregulation.

Desmond Macauley: Roughly 86% of our hedges are in OIS and SOFR pay fix swaps, with a balance in treasury futures. The benchmark 10-year SOFR swap spread has normalized back to its pre-LIBOR day average of approximately -37 basis points, and we anticipate further gains will likely hinge on the path of policy debate around the Fed's desired balance sheet size and banking deregulation. Aggregate portfolio prepayments averaged 11.1 CPR through Q4 2025 and Q1 2026 to date, versus 8.1 CPR in Q3 2025. Stable, but running at a somewhat higher level versus the prior year. Despite tighter mortgage spreads, the 30-year mortgage rate has remained in a tight 6% to 6.3% band, though it has recently shifted towards the low end of that range.

Desmond Macaulay: The benchmark 10-year SOFR swap spread has normalized back to its pre-LIBOR day average of approximately -37 basis points, and we anticipate further gains will likely hinge on the path of policy debate around the Fed's desired balance sheet size and banking deregulation. Aggregate portfolio prepayments averaged 11.1 CPR through Q4 2025 and Q1 2026 to date, versus 8.1 CPR in Q3 2025. Stable, but running at a somewhat higher level versus the prior year. Despite tighter mortgage spreads, the 30-year mortgage rate has remained in a tight 6% to 6.3% band, though it has recently shifted towards the low end of that range.

Speaker #3: Aggregate portfolio prepayments averaged 11.1% CPR through Q4 2025 and Q1 2026 to date, versus 8.1% CPR in Q3 2025. Stable but running at a somewhat higher level versus the prior year.

Speaker #3: Despite tighter mortgage spreads, the third-year mortgage rate has remained in a tight 6% to 6.3% band, though it has recently shifted toward the low end of that range.

Speaker #3: The administration's push for affordability without sacrificing home price appreciation leaves mortgage rates and spreads as the two primary levers to accomplish that. However, the easy work has already been done; the mortgage rate spread for the 10-year Treasury is now below its 15-year average.

Desmond Macauley: The administration's push for affordability without sacrificing home price appreciation leaves mortgage rates and spreads as the two primary levers to accomplish that. However, the easy work has already been done. The mortgage rate, the mortgage rate spread for the 10-year treasury, is now below its 15-year average. Further declines in mortgage rates will therefore require lower long-end treasury yields, which have not declined in sync with front-end rate cuts since the start of the easing cycle in 2024. Still, we remain mindful that many originators have built significant capacity to ramp up refinancing, which could be triggered by a sustained move below 6% and may accelerate speeds in par and premium coupons in coming quarters. Refi activity has proven to be highly sensitive to marginal mortgage rate declines, keeping prepayment risk in TBAs and the generic premium MBS elevated.

Desmond Macaulay: The administration's push for affordability without sacrificing home price appreciation leaves mortgage rates and spreads as the two primary levers to accomplish that. However, the easy work has already been done. The mortgage rate, the mortgage rate spread for the 10-year treasury, is now below its 15-year average. Further declines in mortgage rates will therefore require lower long-end treasury yields, which have not declined in sync with front-end rate cuts since the start of the easing cycle in 2024.

Speaker #3: Further declines in mortgage rates will therefore require lower long-end Treasury yields, which have not declined in sync with front-end rate cuts since the start of the easing cycle in 2024.

Speaker #3: Still, we remain mindful that many originators have built significant capacity to ramp up refinancing, which could be triggered by a sustained move below 6% and may accelerate speeds in par and premium coupons in coming quarters.

Desmond Macaulay: Still, we remain mindful that many originators have built significant capacity to ramp up refinancing, which could be triggered by a sustained move below 6% and may accelerate speeds in par and premium coupons in coming quarters. Refi activity has proven to be highly sensitive to marginal mortgage rate declines, keeping prepayment risk in TBAs and the generic premium MBS elevated. Coupon selection and specified collateral remain the key to containing the prepayment risk. We are positioned accordingly.

Speaker #3: We find activity has proven to be highly sensitive to marginal mortgage rate declines, keeping prepayment risk in TBAs and the generic premium MBS elevated.

Speaker #3: Coupon selection and specified collateral remain the key to containing the prepayment risk. We are positioned accordingly. Nearly 30% of assets are in prepayment-protected agency CMBS pools and discount MBS, while specified MBS pools with some form of prepayment protection comprise over 92% of ARMOUR's portfolio.

Desmond Macauley: Coupon selection and specified collateral remain the key to containing the prepayment risk. We are positioned accordingly. Nearly 30% of assets are in prepayment-protected agency CMBS pools and discount MBS, while specified MBS pools with some form of prepayment protection comprise over 92% of ARMOUR's portfolio. Funding markets have also turned the corner. 2026 repo conditions have improved materially versus last year. Markets are liquid and financing levels have eased, with repo rates averaging roughly SOFR plus 15 basis points. The SOFR to Fed Funds spread has also normalized to near flat. As repo rates backed up in late 2025, the Fed moved quickly to contain intra-month funding pressures tied to falling reserves and elevated T-bill supply. First, the Fed continues to implement a policy of easing the overnight Fed Funds rate.

Desmond Macaulay: Nearly 30% of assets are in prepayment-protected agency CMBS pools and discount MBS, while specified MBS pools with some form of prepayment protection comprise over 92% of ARMOUR's portfolio. Funding markets have also turned the corner. 2026 repo conditions have improved materially versus last year. Markets are liquid and financing levels have eased, with repo rates averaging roughly SOFR plus 15 basis points. The SOFR to Fed Funds spread has also normalized to near flat. As repo rates backed up in late 2025, the Fed moved quickly to contain intra-month funding pressures tied to falling reserves and elevated T-bill supply.

Speaker #3: Funding markets have also turned the corner. 2026 repo conditions have improved materially versus last year. Markets are liquid and financing levels have eased. With repo rates averaging roughly Sophra plus 15 basis points, the Sophra-to-Fed fund spread has also normalized to near flat.

Speaker #3: As repo rates backed up in late 2025, the Fed moved quickly to contain intramonth funding pressures tied to falling reserves and elevated T-bill supply.

Speaker #3: First, the Fed continues to implement a policy of easing the overnight Fed funds rate. Second, it has shifted its reinvestments by directing paydowns of its Treasury and MBS holdings back into the Treasury market.

Desmond Macaulay: First, the Fed continues to implement a policy of easing the overnight Fed Funds rate. Second, it has shifted its reinvestments by directing pay downs of its Treasury and MBS holdings back into the Treasury market. Third, it initiated outright purchases of up to $40 billion per month in Treasury bills and other short-dated Treasuries to stabilize reserve balances and maintain ample system liquidity. This response reinforces the systemic importance of repo markets as the foundation for liquid financial conditions and underscores the Fed's low tolerance for a repeat of the September 2019 episode, when reserve scarcity and balance sheet frictions contributed to a sharp dislocation in secured funding.

Desmond Macauley: Second, it has shifted its reinvestments by directing pay downs of its Treasury and MBS holdings back into the Treasury market. Third, it initiated outright purchases of up to $40 billion per month in Treasury bills and other short-dated Treasuries to stabilize reserve balances and maintain ample system liquidity. This response reinforces the systemic importance of repo markets as the foundation for liquid financial conditions and underscores the Fed's low tolerance for a repeat of the September 2019 episode, when reserve scarcity and balance sheet frictions contributed to a sharp dislocation in secured funding. While the incoming chair has signaled an appetite for a smaller Fed footprint and a reduced balance sheet over time, we expect the central bank's focus on orderly funding markets to remain the highest priority, with a willingness to respond preemptively ahead of any emerging stress.

Speaker #3: Third, it initiated outright purchases of up to $40 billion per month in Treasury bills and other short-dated Treasuries to stabilize reserve balances and maintain ample system liquidity.

Speaker #3: This response reinforces the systemic importance of repo markets as the foundation for liquid financial conditions and underscores the Fed's low tolerance for a repeat of the September 2019 episode when reserves cassidy and balance sheet frictions contributed to a sharp dislocation in secured funding.

Speaker #3: While the incoming chair has signaled an appetite for a smaller Fed footprint and a reduced balance sheet over time, we expect the central bank's focus on orderly funding markets to remain the highest priority with a willingness to respond preemptively ahead of any emerging stress.

Desmond Macaulay: While the incoming chair has signaled an appetite for a smaller Fed footprint and a reduced balance sheet over time, we expect the central bank's focus on orderly funding markets to remain the highest priority, with a willingness to respond preemptively ahead of any emerging stress. As of today, we finance the portfolio across 23 active repo counterparties. Approximately 80% of our repo principal is financed at a 3% haircut or lower, and the weighted average haircut across the repo book is approximately 2.75%. Buckler Securities accounts for roughly 40% to 60% of our repo financing. Back to you, Scott.

Speaker #3: As of today, we financed the portfolio across 23 active repo counterparties. Approximately 80% of our repo principal is financed at a 3% haircut or lower, and the weighted average haircut across the repo book is approximately 2.75%.

Desmond Macauley: As of today, we finance the portfolio across 23 active repo counterparties. Approximately 80% of our repo principal is financed at a 3% haircut or lower, and the weighted average haircut across the repo book is approximately 2.75%. Buckler Securities accounts for roughly 40% to 60% of our repo financing. Back to you, Scott.

Speaker #3: Buckler Securities accounts for roughly 40% to 60% of our repo financing. Back to you, Scott.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Desmond. We continue to set our dividend with a medium-term outlook. While acknowledging relatively tighter spreads versus the prior year, we expect the backdrop of a steeper yield curve and lower volatility remains supportive for a consistent and predictable return profile for our assets.

Scott Ulm: Thanks, Desmond. We continue to set our dividend with a medium-term outlook. While acknowledging relatively tighter spreads versus the prior year, we expect the backdrop of a steeper yield curve and lower volatility remains supportive for a consistent and predictable return profile for our assets. Our approach remains unchanged. Stress test our liquidity, apply systematic hedging, and deploy capital when opportunities present themselves. Overall, we're confident in our positioning, our strategy, and our ability to deliver value for shareholders in 2026. Before we open the line for questions, we'd also like to highlight that we've launched a new investor presentation, now available on ARMOUR's website. It provides additional insight for investors, including how our portfolio has transformed over time. Thank you for joining today's call and for your continued interest in ARMOUR.

Scott Ulm: Thanks, Desmond. We continue to set our dividend with a medium-term outlook. While acknowledging relatively tighter spreads versus the prior year, we expect the backdrop of a steeper yield curve and lower volatility remains supportive for a consistent and predictable return profile for our assets. Our approach remains unchanged. Stress test our liquidity, apply systematic hedging, and deploy capital when opportunities present themselves. Overall, we're confident in our positioning, our strategy, and our ability to deliver value for shareholders in 2026.

Speaker #1: Our approach remains unchanged. Stress test fair liquidity, apply systematic hedging, and deploy capital when opportunities present themselves. Overall, we're confident in our positioning for strategy and our ability to deliver value for shareholders in 2026.

Speaker #1: Before we open the line for questions, we'd also like to highlight that we've launched a new investor presentation, now available on ARMOUR's website. It provides additional insight for investors, including how our portfolio has transformed over time.

Scott Ulm: Before we open the line for questions, we'd also like to highlight that we've launched a new investor presentation, now available on ARMOUR's website. It provides additional insight for investors, including how our portfolio has transformed over time. Thank you for joining today's call and for your continued interest in ARMOUR.

Speaker #1: Thank you for joining today's call and for your continued interest in ARMOUR.

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Speaker #3: First question comes from Timothy D'Agostino with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I was wondering on the portfolio and interest-bearing assets by my estimates, it increased year over year around like 49%.

Randy Binner: Yeah, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I was wondering on the portfolio interest-bearing assets. By my estimates, it increased year-over-year, around, like, 49%. I was wondering, you know, the outlook in 2026, do you see potential for similar growth or maybe a little bit less given, you know, the increase in 2025? Thank you.

Timothy Hayes: Yeah, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. I was wondering on the portfolio interest-bearing assets. By my estimates, it increased year-over-year, around, like, 49%. I was wondering, you know, the outlook in 2026, do you see potential for similar growth or maybe a little bit less given, you know, the increase in 2025? Thank you.

Speaker #4: I was wondering the outlook in '26. Do you see potential for a similar growth or maybe a little bit less given the increase in 2025?

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Do you think there are a couple of elements there, but certainly one of the most important is capital raising. And we are when we see an opportunity to raise capital, combined with investment opportunities, we like we'll execute on that.

Sergey Losyev: You know, there are a couple elements there, but certainly one of the most important is capital raising. And we are, you know, when we see an opportunity to raise capital combined with investment opportunities we like, we'll execute on that. But we are, you know, we discriminate a fair amount in terms of what we, you know, what is gonna be attractive or not. So, I'm afraid I got to tell you, it depends on how the market behaves, both on the investment side and the equity side, whether we will be similar or smaller or in some other relationship to what we were able to do last year.

Scott Ulm: You know, there are a couple elements there, but certainly one of the most important is capital raising. And we are, you know, when we see an opportunity to raise capital combined with investment opportunities we like, we'll execute on that. But we are, you know, we discriminate a fair amount in terms of what we, you know, what is gonna be attractive or not. So, I'm afraid I got to tell you, it depends on how the market behaves, both on the investment side and the equity side, whether we will be similar or smaller or in some other relationship to what we were able to do last year.

Speaker #1: But we do discriminate a fair amount in terms of what we think is going to be attractive or not. So, I'm afraid I have to tell you, it depends on how the market behaves, both on the investment side and the equity side, whether we will be similar or smaller or in some other relationship to what we were able to do last year.

Speaker #4: Okay. Great. Thank you so much. And then just to confirm, book value as of Tuesday was $1,837 per share?

Randy Binner: Okay, great. Thank you so much. And then just to confirm, book value as of Tuesday was $18.37 per share?

Timothy Hayes: Okay, great. Thank you so much. And then just to confirm, book value as of Tuesday was $18.37 per share?

Speaker #1: Correct. And that's after the accrual of our full February dividend and the payment of our January dividend.

[Company Representative] (ARMOUR Residential REIT): Correct. That's after the accrual of our full February dividend and the payment of our January dividend.

Gordon Harper: Correct. That's after the accrual of our full February dividend and the payment of our January dividend.

Speaker #4: All right. Perfect. Thank you so much.

Randy Binner: All right, perfect. Thank you so much.

Timothy Hayes: All right, perfect. Thank you so much.

Speaker #3: The next question comes from Trevor Cranston with Citizens. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Trevor Cranson with Citizens. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Trevor Crantson with Citizens. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Can you guys talk about where you're seeing incremental returns on new investment today, given the spread tightening that's occurred, and how you view that incremental level of return compared to the dividend you're currently paying?

[Analyst] (Citizens): Hey, thanks. Good morning. Can you guys talk about where you're seeing incremental returns on new investment today, you know, given the spread tightening that's occurred, and, you know, how you view the incremental level of return, you know, compared to the dividend you're currently paying? Thanks.

Trevor Cranston: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Can you guys talk about where you're seeing incremental returns on new investment today, you know, given the spread tightening that's occurred, and, you know, how you view the incremental level of return, you know, compared to the dividend you're currently paying? Thanks.

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #1: Yes. Hi, Trevor. This is Desmond Macauley. So on a primary basis, the leveled yield on 30 or 5s, which are currently production coupon, is around the meetings, let's say, about 15%.

Desmond Macauley: Yes. Hi, Trevor. This is Desmond Macauley. So on a current basis, the levered yield on thirty of fives, which are currently production coupon, is around the mid-teens, let's say about 15%. This assumes eight terms of leverage, hedge to 0.5 duration using smart hedges, and it's a static framework over a period of just about 3 months. It doesn't assume any more spread tightening. Now, we think at least in the medium term, we could see a bit more spread tightening. So let's say we get another 10 basis points of OAS tightening, that adds about 4% to that return, and also the curve would steepen some more.

Desmond Macaulay: Yes. Hi, Trevor. This is Desmond Macauley. So on a current basis, the levered yield on thirty of fives, which are currently production coupon, is around the mid-teens, let's say about 15%. This assumes eight terms of leverage, hedge to 0.5 duration using smart hedges, and it's a static framework over a period of just about 3 months. It doesn't assume any more spread tightening. Now, we think at least in the medium term, we could see a bit more spread tightening. So let's say we get another 10 basis points of OAS tightening, that adds about 4% to that return, and also the curve would steepen some more.

Speaker #1: This assumes 8 tons of leverage hedged to 0.5 duration using SWOT hedges. And it's a static framework over a period of just about three months.

Speaker #1: It doesn't assume any more spread tightening. Now, we think, at least in a medium term, we could see a bit more spread tightening. So let's say we get another 10 basis points of OES tightening.

Speaker #1: That adds about 4% to that return. And also, the curve would steepen some more. So if we have another—if we see another 50 basis points in curve steepening, particularly led by the front end through more Fed cuts, which we anticipate, that can also add about another 1% or so.

Desmond Macauley: So if we see another 50 basis points in curve steepening, particularly led by the front end, through more Fed cuts, which is what we anticipate, that can also add about another 1% or so. So those are all, you know, parts of the, you know, full total return framework. Some of that will accrue to our book value. Now, in terms of marginal capital raise, we see that that hurdle rate is about 16%, so that would be dividend yield to common, and the management fee is just 75 basis points on new equity. So you add that together, that's roughly about 16%.

Desmond Macaulay: So if we see another 50 basis points in curve steepening, particularly led by the front end, through more Fed cuts, which is what we anticipate, that can also add about another 1% or so. So those are all, you know, parts of the, you know, full total return framework. Some of that will accrue to our book value. Now, in terms of marginal capital raise, we see that that hurdle rate is about 16%, so that would be dividend yield to common, and the management fee is just 75 basis points on new equity. So you add that together, that's roughly about 16%.

Speaker #1: So those are all parts of the full total return framework. Some of that would accrue to our book value. Now, in terms of marginal capital raise, we see that that hurdle rate is about 16%.

Speaker #1: So that would be dividend yields to common, and the management fee is just 75 basis points on new equity. So you add that together, that's roughly about 16%.

Speaker #1: So you can see that for production coupon, the base case returns are close to that level already. And with just a little bit more steepener, and if we see more tightening, it would surpass that by a couple more points.

Desmond Macauley: So you can see that for production coupon, the base case returns are, you know, close to that level already, and with just a little bit more steepening, and if we see more tightening, it will, you know, surpass that by a couple more points. Does that answer your question?

Desmond Macaulay: So you can see that for production coupon, the base case returns are, you know, close to that level already, and with just a little bit more steepening, and if we see more tightening, it will, you know, surpass that by a couple more points. Does that answer your question?

Speaker #1: Does that answer your question?

Speaker #5: Yeah. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then I guess in general, can you guys talk about how you're thinking about the likelihood of further actions driven by the government to attempt to lower mortgage rates?

[Analyst] (Citizens): Yeah, that's very helpful. Thank you. And then I guess in general, can you guys talk about, you know, how you're thinking about the likelihood of, you know, further actions driven by, you know, the government to attempt to lower mortgage rates? You know, things such as increasing the GSE portfolio limits further or, you know, potentially doing other things like lowering G fees, et cetera. Thanks.

Timothy Hayes: Yeah, that's very helpful. Thank you. And then I guess in general, can you guys talk about, you know, how you're thinking about the likelihood of, you know, further actions driven by, you know, the government to attempt to lower mortgage rates? You know, things such as increasing the GSE portfolio limits further or, you know, potentially doing other things like lowering G fees, et cetera. Thanks.

Speaker #5: Things such as increasing the GSE portfolio limits further or potentially doing other things like lowering G fees or etc.? Thanks.

Speaker #1: Hey, Trevor. This is Sergey. Yeah. So around the week in Dallas, we were expecting maybe a few more announcements on the affordability push that the administration has announced with the GSE purchases.

Sergey Losyev: Hey, Trevor, this is Sergey. Yeah, so around the, you know, the week in Davos, we were expecting maybe a few more announcements on the affordability push that the administration has announced, with the GSE purchases. We haven't gotten anything. It feels to us that maybe the lowest hanging fruit has been picked, you know, in terms of, pressuring spreads and mortgage rates lower, but, without affecting home prices. I think the next steps, kind of have both positives and negatives for the, for that push, in terms of, you know, GSE, the G-Fee cut for the GSEs, you know, take away some of the profitability, make them less a private enterprise, profitable enterprise, and more of a, you know, policy tool. It will introduce negative convexity to investors who may demand wider spreads.

Sergey Losyev: Hey, Trevor, this is Sergey. Yeah, so around the, you know, the week in Davos, we were expecting maybe a few more announcements on the affordability push that the administration has announced, with the GSE purchases. We haven't gotten anything. It feels to us that maybe the lowest hanging fruit has been picked, you know, in terms of, pressuring spreads and mortgage rates lower, but, without affecting home prices. I think the next steps, kind of have both positives and negatives for the, for that push, in terms of, you know, GSE, the G-Fee cut for the GSEs, you know, take away some of the profitability, make them less a private enterprise, profitable enterprise, and more of a, you know, policy tool.

Speaker #1: We haven't gotten anything. It feels to us that maybe the lowest hanging fruit has been picked in terms of pressuring spreads and mortgage rates lower.

Speaker #1: But without affecting home prices. I think the next steps kind of have both positives and negatives. For the push in terms of GSE, the G fee cuts for the GSEs, take away some of the profitability, make them less private enterprise profitable enterprise and more of a policy tool.

Sergey Losyev: It will introduce negative convexity to investors who may demand wider spreads. So some of the further steps may work counter to what you know administration has called the North Star in terms of keeping mortgage spreads nice and stable. We do expect more announcements. Obviously, there have been announcements on affordability, assumability of mortgage loans. 50-year loans has been taken off the table. So there's a lot of announcements that have been made, but once you get to the implementation stage of it, things have been quite slow. Having said that, you know, we, we definitely expect in the, in the midterm for these announcements to be quite active.

Speaker #1: It'll introduce negative convexity to investors, who may demand wider spreads. So some of the further steps may work counter to what the administration has called the North Star in terms of keeping mortgage spreads nice and stable.

Sergey Losyev: So some of the further steps may work counter to what you know administration has called the North Star in terms of keeping mortgage spreads nice and stable. We do expect more announcements. Obviously, there have been announcements on affordability, assumability of mortgage loans. 50-year loans has been taken off the table. So there's a lot of announcements that have been made, but once you get to the implementation stage of it, things have been quite slow. Having said that, you know, we, we definitely expect in the, in the midterm for these announcements to be quite active.

Speaker #1: We do expect more announcements. Obviously, there have been announcements on importability, assumability of mortgage loans, and 50-year loans have been taken off the table. So, there are a lot of announcements that have been made.

Speaker #1: But once you get to the implementation stage of it, things have been quite slow. Having said that, we definitely expect in the midterm year for these announcements to be quite active.

Speaker #5: Okay. Appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Eric Hagen: Okay, appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Trevor Cranston: Okay, appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Speaker #3: The next question comes from Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Morning. And thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start with just asking for a little more thoughts on your current liquidity, it looks like quarter over quarter you put a little more to work, but then it looks like it's back up as of last month end.

[Analyst] (Stonegate Capital): Morning, and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start with just asking for a little more thoughts on your current liquidity. It looks like quarter report, you put a little more to work, but then it looks like it's back up as of last month end. I guess, how do you think about this in the near term?

Dave Storms: Morning, and thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start with just asking for a little more thoughts on your current liquidity. It looks like quarter report, you put a little more to work, but then it looks like it's back up as of last month end. I guess, how do you think about this in the near term?

Speaker #4: I guess, how do you think about this in the near term?

Speaker #1: So hi, Dave. So yeah, I think our liquidity, we mentioned, is about 54% of the total equity as of month end. It really reflects our moderate leverage.

Sergey Losyev: So hi, Dave. So yeah, I think our liquidity, we mentioned, is about 54% of the total equity as a month end. It's a really good spot, reflects our moderate leverage. You know, kind of where we have been, been steady in terms of liquidity. So, you know, we don't foresee any sharp changes given our current position in the portfolio.

Sergey Losyev: So hi, Dave. So yeah, I think our liquidity, we mentioned, is about 54% of the total equity as a month end. It's a really good spot, reflects our moderate leverage. You know, kind of where we have been, been steady in terms of liquidity. So, you know, we don't foresee any sharp changes given our current position in the portfolio.

Speaker #1: Kind of where we have been steady in terms of liquidity. So we don't foresee any sharp changes given our current position and our portfolio.

Speaker #4: Understood. Thank you. And then I also know you mentioned in the prior marks that about maybe 30% of your portfolio is payment protected. With mortgage rates hovering around the 6%, do you I know the market likes nice round numbers.

[Analyst] (Stonegate Capital): Understood. Thank you. And then I also know you mentioned the prior marks at about maybe 30% of your portfolio is payment protected. With mortgage rates hovering around the 6%, do you, I know the market likes nice round numbers, do you see any risk of a tipping point or, it's more maybe a linear situation as mortgage rates maybe continue to tick lower?

Dave Storms: Understood. Thank you. And then I also know you mentioned the prior marks at about maybe 30% of your portfolio is payment protected. With mortgage rates hovering around the 6%, do you, I know the market likes nice round numbers, do you see any risk of a tipping point or, it's more maybe a linear situation as mortgage rates maybe continue to tick lower?

Speaker #4: Do you see any risk of a tipping point or it's more maybe a linear situation as mortgage rates maybe continue to tick lower?

Speaker #1: Yeah. I mean, look, prepayments have increased from Q4. So far in Q1, we noted it in our script. We're definitely towards the lower range of the mortgage rates that we've been over the last couple of years.

Sergey Losyev: Yeah, I mean, look, prepayments have increased from Q4, so far in Q1. We noted it in our script. We're definitely towards the lower range of the mortgage rates that we've been over the last couple of years. February prevailing mortgage rate will be lower after the GSE announcements, as well. So the risk of faster prepayments has increased, right? And I think in sync with that, our portfolio has morphed over the last couple of quarters to protect us more from lower mortgage rates. 30% in discounts, and thus, specified pools make up 92%. Within the 92%, almost 40% is in the loan balance stories, other credit, and geo stories.

Sergey Losyev: Yeah, I mean, look, prepayments have increased from Q4, so far in Q1. We noted it in our script. We're definitely towards the lower range of the mortgage rates that we've been over the last couple of years. February prevailing mortgage rate will be lower after the GSE announcements, as well. So the risk of faster prepayments has increased, right? And I think in sync with that, our portfolio has morphed over the last couple of quarters to protect us more from lower mortgage rates. 30% in discounts, and thus, specified pools make up 92%. Within the 92%, almost 40% is in the loan balance stories, other credit, and geo stories.

Speaker #1: February prevailing mortgage rates will be lower. After the GSE announcement as well, so the risk of faster prepayments has increased, right? And I think, in sync with that, our portfolio has morphed over the last couple of quarters to protect us more from lower mortgage rates.

Speaker #1: 30% in discounts and dust, specified pools make up 92%. Within the 92%, almost 40% is in the loan balance stories. Other credit and geo stories.

Speaker #1: So we feel like there's faster refinances are in the future. But we've built our portfolio for that environment.

Sergey Losyev: So we feel like there's a there there, you know, faster refinances are in the future, but we've built our portfolio for that environment.

Sergey Losyev: So we feel like there's a there there, you know, faster refinances are in the future, but we've built our portfolio for that environment.

Speaker #4: Understood. Thank you.

[Analyst] (Stonegate Capital): Understood. Thank you.

Dave Storms: Understood. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. The next question comes from Eric Hagan with BTIG. Please go ahead.

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Operator: Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. The next question comes from Eric Hagen with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, thanks. Good morning. I think you guys mentioned in the opening remarks haircuts for MBS have come down, which is a good kind of an interesting comment.

Eric Hagen: Hey, thanks. Good morning. I think you guys mentioned in the opening remarks, haircuts for MBS have come down, which is a good, it's kind of an interesting comment. Can you maybe frame, kind of like where, where that level is relative to, like, the historical levels? And then if the GSEs are helping reduce volatility in the market, could we see that haircut level come down even further, potentially?

Eric Hagen: Hey, thanks. Good morning. I think you guys mentioned in the opening remarks, haircuts for MBS have come down, which is a good, it's kind of an interesting comment. Can you maybe frame, kind of like where, where that level is relative to, like, the historical levels? And then if the GSEs are helping reduce volatility in the market, could we see that haircut level come down even further, potentially?

Speaker #5: Can you maybe frame kind of where that level is relative to the historical levels? And then, if the GSEs are helping reduce volatility in the market, could we see that haircut level come down even further, potentially?

Speaker #1: We would hope so. I mean, a lot of the guidance on the haircuts comes from FICC, but in terms of our bilateral counterparty repo haircuts, we have worked with a lot of our counterparts to bring down the maximum haircuts closer to our weighted average of 2.75.

Sergey Losyev: We would hope so. I mean, a lot of the guidance on the haircuts comes from FICC. But in terms of our, you know, bilateral counterparty repo haircuts, we have worked with a lot of our counterparts to bring down, you know, the maximum haircuts closer to our weighted average of 2.75. I think almost 80% of our repo book is closer to at 3%.

Sergey Losyev: We would hope so. I mean, a lot of the guidance on the haircuts comes from FICC. But in terms of our, you know, bilateral counterparty repo haircuts, we have worked with a lot of our counterparts to bring down, you know, the maximum haircuts closer to our weighted average of 2.75. I think almost 80% of our repo book is closer to at 3%.

Speaker #1: I think a lot—almost 80%—of our repo book is closer to at 3%.

Speaker #5: Okay. Following up on the conversation around just where you are in the coupon stack, I mean, you mentioned originators have been really able to leverage some of their tools to be aggressive on refi.

Eric Hagen: Okay. Following up on the conversation around just where you are in the coupon stack. I mean, you mentioned originators have been really able to leverage some of their tools to be aggressive on refi. I mean, how does that drive the appetite for the current coupon specifically? And, you know, like the OAS that's in the current coupon, how do you compare that to some of the lower coupons and just where you feel comfortable taking prepayment risk?

Eric Hagen: Okay. Following up on the conversation around just where you are in the coupon stack. I mean, you mentioned originators have been really able to leverage some of their tools to be aggressive on refi. I mean, how does that drive the appetite for the current coupon specifically? And, you know, like the OAS that's in the current coupon, how do you compare that to some of the lower coupons and just where you feel comfortable taking prepayment risk?

Speaker #5: I mean, how does that drive the appetite for the current coupon specifically? And the OAS that's in the current coupon—how do you compare that to some of the lower coupons, and just where you feel comfortable taking prepayment risk?

Speaker #1: Yeah. We've been looking away from current coupons because that's kind of where the biggest impact from the announcement has been, really all throughout the Q4.

Sergey Losyev: Yeah, we've been looking away from current coupons because that's kind of where the biggest impact from the announcement has been, really all throughout Q4. We did add, in Q4, a little over $1 billion in 4.5 and 5s, but since then, probably are more looking at the wings, deeper discount coupons, where we can see some of the, you know, housing activity perhaps reignite with any of these affordability measures. You know, in terms of premium coupons, they're still our core holding. If you look at the OAS spread difference between 102 price and current coupon MBS, you know, we're at close to 2 standard deviations on that spread, historically speaking, right?

Sergey Losyev: Yeah, we've been looking away from current coupons because that's kind of where the biggest impact from the announcement has been, really all throughout Q4. We did add, in Q4, a little over $1 billion in 4.5 and 5s, but since then, probably are more looking at the wings, deeper discount coupons, where we can see some of the, you know, housing activity perhaps reignite with any of these affordability measures. You know, in terms of premium coupons, they're still our core holding. If you look at the OAS spread difference between 102 price and current coupon MBS, you know, we're at close to 2 standard deviations on that spread, historically speaking, right?

Speaker #1: We did add in Q4 a little over a billion in foreign assets and FIs, but since then, probably we are more looking at the wings deeper discount coupons where we can see some of the housing activity perhaps reignite with any of these affordability measures.

Speaker #1: In terms of premium coupons, they're still our core holding. If you look at the OAS spread difference between 102 priced and current coupon, MBS, we're at close to two standard deviations on that spread historically speaking, right?

Speaker #1: So a lot of the fairs and prepayments and G fee cuts have already been priced into the premiums. So it's really looking at kind of barbelled approach in the coupon stack at this point.

Sergey Losyev: So a lot of the fears and prepayments and, you know, G-Fee cuts have already been priced into the premiums. So, it's really, you know, looking at kind of barbell approach in the coupon stack at this point. But even within the belly, the coupon stack, you can find stories which pick OAS versus TBA, specifically, maybe like seasoned collateral, things like that.

Sergey Losyev: So a lot of the fears and prepayments and, you know, G-Fee cuts have already been priced into the premiums. So, it's really, you know, looking at kind of barbell approach in the coupon stack at this point. But even within the belly, the coupon stack, you can find stories which pick OAS versus TBA, specifically, maybe like seasoned collateral, things like that.

Speaker #1: But even within the belly, the coupon stack, you can find stories which pick OAS versus TBA specifically maybe like season collateral, things like that.

Speaker #5: How many Fed cuts do you feel like are currently priced into the mortgage basis?

Eric Hagen: How many Fed cuts do you feel like are currently priced into the mortgage basis? It's a very-

Eric Hagen: How many Fed cuts do you feel like are currently priced into the mortgage basis? It's a very-

Speaker #1: I mean, the Fed cuts?

Sergey Losyev: How many Fed cuts?

Sergey Losyev: How many Fed cuts?

Speaker #5: Yeah. Yeah. How many Fed cuts? For the rest of the year, do you think are priced into the mortgage basis right now?

Eric Hagen: Yeah. Yeah, how many Fed cuts for the rest of this year do you think are priced into the mortgage basis right now?

Eric Hagen: Yeah. Yeah, how many Fed cuts for the rest of this year do you think are priced into the mortgage basis right now?

Speaker #1: The market is expecting, by the end of December, a little bit over two cuts. And from our perspective, we think it's reasonable. We think that normalization will continue this year.

Sergey Losyev: The market, the market is expecting by the end of December, a little bit over 2 cuts. You know, from our perspective, we, we think it's reasonable. We think that normalization will continue this year. It looks like when we get to around June, the probability is about 100%, getting close to 100%. That would be a very good environment for, for the MBS market and mortgage spreads. We think that the curve is already steepened. If we do see more cuts, then funding costs will come down, the, the curve will steepen even more, and that, that makes the entire space more attractive, and it, it adds to overall total return.

Sergey Losyev: The market, the market is expecting by the end of December, a little bit over 2 cuts. You know, from our perspective, we, we think it's reasonable. We think that normalization will continue this year. It looks like when we get to around June, the probability is about 100%, getting close to 100%. That would be a very good environment for, for the MBS market and mortgage spreads. We think that the curve is already steepened. If we do see more cuts, then funding costs will come down, the, the curve will steepen even more, and that, that makes the entire space more attractive, and it, it adds to overall total return.

Speaker #1: It looks like when we get to around June, the probability is about 100%, getting close to 100%. And that will be a very good environment for the MBS market and mortgage spreads.

Speaker #1: We think that the curve is already steepened. If we do see more cuts, then funding costs will come down. The curve will steepen even more.

Speaker #1: And that makes the entire space more attractive, and it adds to overall total return.

Speaker #5: Right. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate your comments.

Eric Hagen: Right. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate your comments.

Eric Hagen: Right. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate your comments.

Speaker #3: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Scott Ulm for any closing remarks.

Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Scott Ulm for any closing remarks.

Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Scott Ulm for any closing remarks.

Speaker #5: Thank you very much for your interest in ARMOUR REIT. If there are follow-up questions, don't hesitate to call the office. And we will get back to you as soon as we can.

Scott Ulm: Thank you very much for your interest in ARMOUR REIT. If there are follow-up questions, don't hesitate to call the office, and we will get back to you as soon as we can. Thanks so much, and good morning to you.

Scott Ulm: Thank you very much for your interest in ARMOUR REIT. If there are follow-up questions, don't hesitate to call the office, and we will get back to you as soon as we can. Thanks so much, and good morning to you.

Speaker #5: Thanks so much and good morning to you.

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Q4 2025 ARMOUR Residential REIT Inc Earnings Call

Demo

ARMOUR Residential REIT

Earnings

Q4 2025 ARMOUR Residential REIT Inc Earnings Call

ARR

Thursday, February 19th, 2026 at 2:00 PM

Transcript

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