Q4 2025 Radian Group Inc Earnings Call

February 19, 2026

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Speaker #1: I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Bob Lally, VP Finance. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, and welcome to RADIAN's fourth quarter 2025 conference call. Our press release, which contains RADIAN's financial results for the quarter, was issued yesterday evening and is posted to the investor section of our website.

Bob Lally: Thank you, and welcome to Radian's Q4 2025 conference call. Our press release, which contains Radian's financial results for the quarter, was issued yesterday evening and is posted to the investor section of our website at radian.com. This press release includes certain non-GAAP measures that may be discussed during today's call, including adjusted pre-tax operating income, adjusted diluted net operating income per share, and adjusted net operating return on equity. The complete description of all our non-GAAP measures may be found in press release Exhibit F, and reconciliations of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures may be found in press release Exhibit G. These exhibits are on the investor section of our website. Today, you will hear from Rick Thornberry, Radian's Chief Executive Officer, and Dan Kobell, Senior Executive Vice President and Interim Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker #2: @RADIAN.com. This press release includes certain non-GAAP measures that may be discussed during today's call, including adjusted pre-tax operating income, adjusted diluted net operating income per share, and adjusted net operating return on equity.

Speaker #2: The complete description of all our non-GAAP measures may be found in press release Exhibit F, and reconciliations of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures may be found in press release Exhibit G.

Speaker #2: These exhibits are on the investor section of our website. Today, you will hear from Rick Thornberry, RADIAN's Chief Executive Officer, and Dan Kobell, Senior Executive Vice President and Interim Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker #2: Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that comments made during this call will include forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations estimates, projections, and assumptions that are subject to risk and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially.

Bob Lally: Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that comments made during this call will include forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations, estimates, projections, and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially. For more information regarding these risks and uncertainties, as well as certain additional risks that Radian faces, you should refer to the risk factors included in our 2024 Form 10-K and our Q3 2025 Form 10-Q, as well as to subsequent reports filed with the SEC. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Rick.

Speaker #2: For more information regarding these risk and uncertainties, as well as certain additional risks that RADIAN faces, you should refer to the risk factors included in our 2024 Foreign 10-K and our third quarter 2025 Foreign 10-Q.

Speaker #2: As well as to subsequent reports filed with the SEC. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Rick.

Speaker #3: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I am pleased to report another strong quarter for RADIAN. Rounding out an outstanding year, both in terms of our financial performance and the beginning of an exciting strategic transformation of our company with the acquisition of Innigo.

Rick Thornberry: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I am pleased to report another strong quarter for Radian, rounding out an outstanding year, both in terms of our financial performance and the beginning of an exciting strategic transformation of our company... with the acquisition of Inigo. Our performance in 2025 demonstrates the strength of our core business and the disciplined execution of our strategy. We grew our mortgage insurance in force portfolio to an all-time high. We maintained strong credit performance and operational discipline. We continue to generate substantial capital, distributing $795 million from Radian Guaranty to our holding company, and returned $576 million to stockholders through dividends and share repurchases. We used risk distribution strategies to effectively manage our capital and proactively mitigate risks.

Speaker #3: Our performance in 2025 demonstrates the strength of our core business and the disciplined execution of our strategy. We grew our mortgage insurance in-force portfolio to an all-time high.

Speaker #3: We maintained strong credit performance and operational discipline. We continue to generate substantial capital distributing $795 million from RADIAN Guarantee to our holding company and returned $576 million to stockholders through dividends and share repurchases.

Speaker #3: And we used risk distribution strategies to effectively manage our capital and proactively mitigate risks. Most notably, earlier this month, we completed our strategic acquisition of Innigo.

Rick Thornberry: Most notably, earlier this month, we completed our strategic acquisition of Inigo, a highly respected specialty insurer underwriting through Lloyd's of London. Importantly, we funded this transaction entirely with available liquidity and excess capital, with no new equity raised. This marks a defining milestone in Radian's history and the beginning of an exciting new chapter. We believe this is truly transformative for Radian's future. Building on a strong foundation as a leading US mortgage insurer, we are now poised to expand and diversify into a global multi-line specialty insurer. We have the unique opportunity to leverage our high-performing mortgage insurance business, which is expected to continue generating excess capital, alongside a growing and global specialty insurance business. The acquisition significantly expands our expertise, capabilities, and geographic reach, greatly increasing our total addressable market and positioning us to deploy capital strategically for attractive returns.

Speaker #3: A highly respected, specialty insurer underwriting through Lloyd's of London. Importantly, we funded this transaction entirely with available liquidity and excess capital with no new equity raised.

Speaker #3: This marks the defining milestone in RADIAN's history and the beginning of an exciting new chapter. We believe this is truly transformative for RADIAN's future.

Speaker #3: Building on a strong foundation as a leading U.S. mortgage insurer, we are now poised to expand and diversify into a global multi-line specialty insurer.

Speaker #3: We have the unique opportunity to leverage our high-performing mortgage insurance business, which is expected to continue generating excess capital alongside a growing and global specialty insurance business.

Speaker #3: The acquisition significantly expands our expertise, capabilities, and geographic reach greatly increasing our total addressable market and position us to deploy capital strategically for attractive returns.

Speaker #3: We expect this transaction to double our annual revenues, be accreted to EPS and returns, and provide greater strategic flexibility to deploy capital across multiple insurance lines through various business cycles.

Rick Thornberry: We expect this transaction to double our annual revenues, be accreted to EPS and returns, and provide greater strategic flexibility to deploy capital across multiple insurance lines through various business cycles. Inigo has a proven track record in the Lloyd's market, fueled by a high-performing culture and an experienced team with a strong focus on their customers. Their business model and the approach align closely with our mortgage insurance business, particularly in their commitment to strong risk management through disciplined underwriting, leveraging data and analytics, and disciplined capital allocation. As part of Radian, Inigo will operate as a standalone business unit in London, maintaining its management team, brand, and culture. We are excited to welcome Inigo's CEO, Richard Watson, and his talented team to Radian, and look forward to working together to build long-term and sustainable value for all our stakeholders as a global multi-line specialty insurer.

Speaker #3: Innigo has a proven track record in the Lloyd's market, fueled by a high-performing culture and an experienced team with a strong focus on their customers.

Speaker #3: Their business model and the approach align closely with our mortgage insurance business, particularly in their commitment to strong risk management through disciplined underwriting, leveraging data and analytics, and disciplined capital allocation.

Speaker #3: As part of RADIAN, Innigo will operate as a standalone business unit in London maintaining its management team, brand, and culture. We are excited to welcome Innigo's CEO, Richard Watson, and his talented team to RADIAN.

Speaker #3: And look forward to working together to build long-term and sustainable value for all our stakeholders as a global multi-line specialty insurer. I also want to share that our divestiture plan for our mortgage conduit, title, and real estate services businesses is well underway.

Rick Thornberry: I also want to share that our divestiture plan for our mortgage, conduit, title, and real estate services businesses is well underway and on track for completion by Q3 of this year. I am very proud of these teams, as they have effectively managed their businesses while working through this process. Last week, we announced an important organizational update. These changes are intended to align our leadership team with our strategic focus, continuing to deliver strong operating performance in our mortgage insurance business, realizing the strategic value of the Inigo acquisition, and maintaining strong financial management, including effective capital allocation. We promoted Steve Keleher and Meghan Bartholomew, both long-tenured Radian leaders who are well-known to the market, to co-head our mortgage insurance business. We also promoted Dan Kobell and Rob Quigley, two highly experienced and accomplished financial executives with extensive financial management expertise.

Speaker #3: And on track for completion by the third quarter of this year. I am very proud of these teams, as they have effectively managed their businesses while working through this process.

Speaker #3: Last week, we announced an important organizational update. These changes are intended to align our leadership team with our strategic focus—continuing to deliver strong operating performance in our mortgage insurance business, realizing the strategic value of the Innigo acquisition, and maintaining strong financial management, including effective capital allocation.

Speaker #3: We promoted Steve Kelleher and Megan Bartholomew, both long-tenured Radian leaders who are well known to the market, to co-head our mortgage insurance business. We also promoted Dan Kobell and Rob Quigley, two highly experienced and accomplished financial executives with extensive financial management expertise.

Speaker #3: These appointments and the exceptional teams behind them along with the addition of the highly talented Innigo team position us well for the future with a strong and deep pool of talent.

Rick Thornberry: These appointments and the exceptional teams behind them, along with the addition of the highly talented Inigo team, position us well for the future with a strong and deep pool of talent. I am truly excited to see what this team can achieve together. Before I turn the call over to Dan, I would like to take a moment to formally introduce him. Many of you have worked with Dan during his tenure at Radian, most recently as EVP of Finance, heading corporate planning, corporate development, treasury, investments, and investor relations. During his 11 years at Radian, he has been a leader across our finance team, and his deep expertise in financial management and strong understanding of our business have been invaluable. Most recently, he was a key leader in the work done to identify and complete the Inigo acquisition.

Speaker #3: I am truly excited to see what this team can achieve together. Before I turn the call over to Dan, I would like to take a moment to formally introduce him.

Speaker #3: Many of you have worked with Dan during his tenure at RADIAN, most recently as EVP of Finance, heading corporate planning, corporate development, treasury, investments, and investor relations.

Speaker #3: During his 11 years at Radian, he has been a leader across our finance team and has deep expertise in financial management, and his strong understanding of our business has been invaluable.

Speaker #3: Most recently, he was a key leader in the work done to identify and complete the Innigo acquisition. His experience and knowledge of RADIAN and now Innigo position him well for this important role.

Rick Thornberry: His experience and knowledge of Radian, and now Inigo, position him well for this important role. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Dan to review our financial results.

Speaker #3: Now, I would like to turn the call over to Dan to review our financial results.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Rick, for the warm welcome. I'm honored to step into this role and lead the finance function at RADIAN in close partnership with Rob Quigley.

Dan Kobell: Thank you, Rick, for the warm welcome. I'm honored to step into this role and lead the finance function at Radian in close partnership with Rob Quigley. This is an exciting chapter in Radian's nearly 50-year history, and I look forward to engaging with all of you as we move forward together. I'm pleased to report additional details about our fourth quarter results, which reflect another quarter of strong performance. For the quarter, we generated net income from continuing operations of $159 million, or $1.15 per share. For the full year, net income from continuing operations was $618 million, or $4.39 per share.

Speaker #2: This is an exciting chapter in RADIAN's nearly 50-year history, and I look forward to engaging with all of you as we move forward together.

Speaker #2: I'm pleased to report additional details about our fourth-quarter results, which reflect another quarter of strong performance. For the quarter, we generated net income from continuing operations of $159 million, or $1.15 per share.

Speaker #2: For the full year, net income from continuing operations was $618 million, or $4.39 per share. We were pleased to grow our net income from continuing operations per share in 2025, driven by a combination of strong earnings as well as an 8% reduction in our share count.

Dan Kobell: We were pleased to grow our net income from continuing operations per share in 2025, driven by a combination of strong earnings as well as an 8% reduction in our share count. Additionally, in our mortgage insurance business, we saw growth in both insurance in force and new insurance written, with NIW growing 6% year-over-year. We generated a return on equity of 13.5% in Q4 and 13.1% for the full year. We grew book value per share 13% year-over-year to $35.29. We also returned dividends to our stockholders in 2025 that accounted for an additional 3% of book value. Turning now to the key drivers of our results.

Speaker #2: Additionally, in our mortgage insurance business, we saw growth in both insurance enforced and new insurance written, with NIW growing 6% year over year. We generated a return on equity of 13.5% in the fourth quarter and 13.1% for the full year.

Speaker #2: We grew book value per share 13% year over year, to $35.29. We also returned dividends to our stockholders in 2025 that accounted for an additional 3% of book value.

Speaker #2: Turning now to the key drivers of our results. Our total revenues continued to be strong at $301 million in the fourth quarter and $1.2 billion for the full year.

Dan Kobell: Our total revenues continued to be strong at $301 billion in the fourth quarter and $1.2 billion for the full year. Slides 14 through 16 in our presentation include details on our mortgage insurance portfolio, as well as other key factors impacting our net premiums earned. We generated $237 million in net premiums earned in the quarter, which represents the highest level in over three years. Our large, high-quality primary mortgage insurance portfolio grew 3% year-over-year to another all-time high of $283 billion. Contributing to this growth was $55 billion of NIW in 2025, including $15.9 billion in the fourth quarter. These figures compare favorably to $52 billion in 2024 and $13.2 billion in the fourth quarter of the prior year.

Speaker #2: Slides 14 through 16 in our presentation include details on our mortgage insurance portfolio as well as other key factors impacting our net premiums earned.

Speaker #2: We generated $237 million in net premiums earned in the quarter. Which represents the highest level in over three years. Our large, high-quality, primary mortgage insurance portfolio grew 3% year over year to another all-time high of $283 billion.

Speaker #2: Contributing to this growth was $55 billion of NIW in 2025, including $15.9 billion in the fourth quarter. These figures compare favorably to $52 billion in 2024 and $13.2 billion in the fourth quarter of the prior year.

Speaker #2: Our proprietary mortgage data and analytics, which drive our MI pricing strategy together with our disciplined and informed approach to risk management, have contributed to a healthy and profitable portfolio.

Dan Kobell: Our proprietary mortgage data and analytics, which drive our MI pricing strategy, together with our disciplined and informed approach to risk management, have contributed to a healthy and profitable portfolio, creating long-term economic value and generating strong returns for our shareholders. As shown on slide 14, our quarterly persistency rate remains strong at 82% in Q4, a small decrease from the prior quarter due to higher refinance activity. As of the end of Q4, approximately half of our insurance in-force portfolio had a mortgage rate of 5.5% or lower. Given current mortgage interest rates, these policies are less likely to cancel due to refinancing in the near term, and we therefore continue to expect our persistency rate to remain strong.

Speaker #2: Creating long-term economic value and generating strong returns for our shareholders. As shown on Slide 14, our quarterly persistency rate remained strong at 82% in the fourth quarter, a small decrease from the prior quarter due to higher refinance activity.

Speaker #2: As of the end of the fourth quarter, approximately half of our insurance enforced portfolio had a mortgage rate of 5.5% or lower. Given current mortgage interest rates, these policies are less likely to cancel due to refinancing in the near term and we therefore continue to expect our persistency rate to remain strong.

Speaker #2: As shown on Slide 16, the enforced premium yield for our mortgage insurance portfolio remained stable as expected at 38 basis points. With strong persistency rates and the current industry pricing environment, we expect the enforced premium yield to remain generally stable in 2026.

Dan Kobell: As shown on Slide 16, the in-force premium yield for our mortgage insurance portfolio remains stable, as expected, at 38 basis points. With strong persistency rates and the current industry pricing environment, we expect the in-force premium yield to remain generally stable in 2026. As shown on Slide 17, our investment portfolio of $6.1 billion consists of well-diversified and highly rated securities, generating net investment income of $249 million in 2025. Our provision for losses and related credit trends continue to be positive, with strong cure activity. On Slide 20, we provide trends for our primary default inventory.

Speaker #2: As shown on slide 17, our investment portfolio of $6.1 billion consists of well-diversified and highly rated securities, generating net investment income of $249 million in 2025.

Speaker #2: Our provision for losses and related credit trends continue to be positive, with strong care activity. On Slide 20, we provide trends for our primary default inventory.

Speaker #2: The number of new defaults in the fourth quarter was approximately 14,200, and as expected, the total number of defaults increased in the fourth quarter to approximately 25,000 loans at quarter end, resulting in a portfolio default rate of 2.56%.

Dan Kobell: The number of new defaults in the fourth quarter was approximately 14,200, and as expected, the total number of defaults increased in the fourth quarter to approximately 25,000 loans at quarter end, resulting in a portfolio default rate of 2.56%. This increase in total defaults reflects normal seasonal trends and the expected continued seasoning of our large insurance in-force portfolio. As we have noted in the past, our new defaults continue to contain significant embedded equity, which has been a key driver of recent favorable credit trends, including higher cure rates and reduced severity for policies that result in claim submission. As shown on Slide 21, our cure trends have been consistently positive in recent periods, meaningfully exceeding our initial default-to-claim expectations for these loans.

Speaker #2: This increase in total defaults reflects normal seasonal trends and the expected continued seasoning of our large insurance enforced portfolio. As we have noted in the past, our new defaults continue to contain significant embedded equity, which has been a key driver of recent favorable credit trends including higher care rates, and reduced severity for policies that result in claim submission.

Speaker #2: As shown on Slide 21, our care trends have been consistently positive in recent periods, meaningfully exceeding our initial default-to-claim expectations for these loans. Cure rates in the fourth quarter exhibited typical seasonal trends in line with similar periods from prior years.

Dan Kobell: Cure rates in Q4 exhibited typical seasonal trends in line with similar periods from prior years. Slide 22 shows the components of our provision for loss. We maintained our initial default-to-claim rate of 7.5% on new defaults, which resulted in $57 million of loss provision for new defaults in Q4. Throughout 2025, our provision for losses benefited from favorable reserve development on prior period defaults, primarily due to more favorable cure trends than initially estimated. This continued in Q4, with $35 million of positive reserve development. As a result, we recognized a net provision expense of $22 million in Q4. Now, turning to our other expenses. For Q4, our other operating expenses were $56 million, down from $62 million in Q3.

Speaker #2: Slide 22 shows the components of our provision for loss. We maintained our initial default-to-claim rate of 7.5% on new defaults, which resulted in 57 million dollars of loss provision for new defaults in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: Throughout 2025, our provision for losses benefited from favorable reserve development on prior-period defaults, primarily due to more favorable care trends than initially estimated.

Speaker #2: This continued in the fourth quarter with $35 million of positive reserve development. As a result, we recognized a net provision expense of $22 million in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: Now, turning to our other expenses. For the fourth quarter, our other operating expenses were $56 million down from $62 million in the third quarter.

Speaker #2: For the year, our other operating expenses were $246 million below our previously communicated annual expense guidance of $250 million for continuing operations. With the Indigo acquisition and following the planned divestiture of our mortgage conduit title and real estate services businesses, we will continue to look for opportunities to enhance our efficiency as we simplify our business model to focus on mortgage and specialty insurance.

Dan Kobell: For the year, our other operating expenses were $246 million, below our previously communicated annual expense guidance of $250 million for continuing operations. With the Inigo acquisition and following the planned divestiture of our mortgage conduit, title, and real estate services businesses, we will continue to look for opportunities to enhance our efficiency as we simplify our business model to focus on mortgage and specialty insurance. Moving to our capital, available liquidity, and related strategic actions. Radian Guaranty's financial position remains strong. In 2025, Radian Guaranty distributed $795 million to Radian Group through dividends and returns of capital. We also continue to diversify our sources of capital and use a range of risk distribution strategies to effectively manage capital and proactively mitigate risk.

Speaker #2: Moving to our capital available liquidity and related strategic actions. Rating guarantees financial position remain strong. In 2025, rating guarantee distributed $795 million to rating group through dividends and returns of capital.

Speaker #2: We also continue to diversify our sources of capital and use a range of risk distribution strategies to effectively manage capital and proactively mitigate risk.

Speaker #2: During the fourth quarter, we completed an excess of loss reinsurance agreement covering approximately $373 million on certain policies written from 2016 through 2021. Our PMIRS cushion was $1.6 billion at year-end.

Dan Kobell: During the fourth quarter, we completed an excess of loss reinsurance agreement covering approximately $373 million on certain policies written from 2016 through 2021. Our PMIERs cushion was $1.6 billion at year-end, significantly above our required PMIERs capital level. This capital buffer, combined with our current reinsurance programs, positions Radian Guaranty well to withstand and remain well capitalized through a severe potential macroeconomic stress. Moving to our discontinued operations. During the fourth quarter, we extracted $62 million of capital from our entities held for sale. These returns of capital provided immediate liquidity to Radian Group and reduced the net carrying value of these businesses to $110 million as of year-end. As we've mentioned in the past, we have engaged Citizens JMP, and Piper Sandler to assist us in the divestiture process.

Speaker #2: Significantly above our required PMIRS capital level. This capital buffer, combined with our current reinsurance programs, positions rating guarantee well to withstand and remain well-capitalized through a severe potential macroeconomic stress.

Speaker #2: Moving to our discontinued operations. During the fourth quarter, we extracted $62 million of capital from our entities held for sale. These returns of capital provided immediate liquidity to Radian Group and reduced the net carrying value of these businesses to $110 million as of year-end.

Speaker #2: As we've mentioned in the past, we have engaged citizens, JMP, and Piper Sandler to assist us in the divestiture process. We are making steady progress and continue to expect this process to be completed by the end of the third quarter of this year.

Dan Kobell: We are making steady progress and continue to expect this process to be completed by the end of the third quarter of this year. Moving to our holding company, Radian Group. In 2025, we repurchased approximately 13.5 million shares of our common stock at a total cost of $430 million. In preparation for the Inigo acquisition, which closed earlier this month, we significantly expanded our holding company liquidity to $1.8 billion at year-end, supported by a $195 million dividend in the fourth quarter and a $600 million intercompany note, both from Radian Guaranty. In January, we drew $200 million on a revolving credit facility, further increasing holding company liquidity.

Speaker #2: Moving to our holding company, Rating Group. In 2025, we repurchased approximately $13.5 million shares of our common stock at a total cost of $430 million.

Speaker #2: In preparation for the Indigo acquisition, which closed earlier this month, we significantly expanded our holding company liquidity to $1.8 billion at year-end, supported by a $195 million dividend in the fourth quarter and a $600 million intercompany note, both from Rating Guarantee.

Speaker #2: In January, we drew $200 million on a revolving credit facility, further increasing holding company liquidity. With these resources, we funded the Indigo acquisition with a purchase price paid at closing, net of certain adjustments, of $1.67 billion.

Dan Kobell: With these resources, we funded the Inigo acquisition with a purchase price paid at closing, net of certain adjustments, of $1.67 billion. Inigo's estimated tangible equity at year-end was $1.16 billion, resulting in a net purchase price multiple of approximately 1.4 times tangible equity. Following the Inigo purchase, our holding company liquidity was approximately $350 million. In 2026, we expect dividends of at least $600 million from Radian Guaranty to Radian Group, including a $140 million dividend later in Q1. We expect these dividends to allow Radian Group to repay the $200 million draw from the credit facility during 2026, while continuing to maintain sufficient liquidity.

Speaker #2: Indigo's estimated tangible equity at year-end was $1.16 billion, resulting in a net purchase price multiple of approximately 1.4 times tangible equity. Following the Indigo purchase, our holding company liquidity was approximately $350 million.

Speaker #2: In 2026, we expect dividends of at least $600 million from rating guarantee to rating group, including a $140 million dividend later in the first quarter.

Speaker #2: We expect these dividends to allow Rating Group to repay the $200 million draw from the credit facility during 2026 while continuing to maintain sufficient liquidity.

Speaker #2: As the year progresses, we expect to continue to build our liquidity position at Rating Group, and we will apply our disciplined capital allocation methodology to optimize the use of any excess capital including potentially resuming share repurchases under our available share repurchase authorization.

Dan Kobell: As the year progresses, we expect to continue to build our liquidity position at Radian Group, and we will apply our disciplined capital allocation methodology to optimize the use of any excess capital, including potentially resuming share repurchases under our available share repurchase authorization. Finally, our leverage ratio declined to 18.3% at year-end, and we expect it to remain below 20% by year-end 2026. I will now turn the call back over to Rick.

Speaker #2: Finally, our leverage ratio declined to 18.3% at year-end, and we expected to remain below 20% by year-end 2026. I will now turn the call back over to Rick.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Dan. Our results for the quarter and the year are once again reflect the balance and agility of our company as well as the strength and flexibility of our capital and liquidity positions.

Rick Thornberry: Thank you, Dan. Our results for the quarter and the year once again reflect the balance and agility of our company, as well as the strength and flexibility of our capital and liquidity positions. Our mortgage insurance business remains a cornerstone of our success and of our commitment to supporting homeownership. We appreciate the focus of the administration, FHFA, and GSEs on making homeownership more affordable and sustainable. Our products enable qualified borrowers to access homeownership and begin building equity years earlier than if they had to save for a large down payment. For nearly 50 years, we have helped millions of families purchase their homes or refinance their mortgages. We are proud to play this important role in the housing finance system and in building strong communities.

Speaker #1: Our mortgage insurance business remains a cornerstone of our success and of our commitment to supporting homeownership. We appreciate the focus of the administration FHFA and GSEs on making homeownership more affordable and sustainable.

Speaker #1: Our products enable qualified borrowers to access homeownership and begin building equity years earlier than if they had to save for a large down payment.

Speaker #1: For nearly 50 years, we have helped millions of families purchase their homes or refinance their mortgages. We are proud to play this important role in the housing finance system and in building strong communities.

Speaker #1: Finally, I want to express my gratitude to all Rating employees across every part of our company for their dedication and outstanding work throughout this pivotal year.

Rick Thornberry: Finally, I want to express my gratitude to all Radian employees across every part of our company for their dedication and outstanding work throughout this pivotal year. Their commitment to excellence and our values has been the foundation of our success. Operator, we would be happy to take questions.

Speaker #1: Their commitment to excellence and our values has been the foundation of our success. Operator, we would be happy to take questions.

Speaker #3: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press *11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press *11 again.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Terry Ma of Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Terry Ma of Barclays. Your line is open.

Terry Ma: Hey, thank you. Good morning. Maybe just to start off with Inigo, question for Dan. Kind of like you guys just recently closed it, but any kind of updated thoughts on financial metrics or anything you kind of laid out, initially a few months ago?

Speaker #4: Hey, thank you. Good morning. Maybe just to start off with Indigo, a question for Dan. Kind of like you guys just recently closed it, but any kind of updated thoughts on financial metrics or anything you kind of laid out?

Speaker #4: Initially, a few months ago.

Speaker #1: Yeah. Thanks, Terry, for the question. So I'd say broadly no changes from what we laid out a few months ago. And I'd say just generally the simplest way to look at the financial accretion from the Indigo acquisition using round numbers, it's a 1.7 billion acquisition.

Dan Kobell: Yeah. Thanks, Terry, for the question. So, I'd say broadly, no changes from what we laid out a few months ago. And I'd say just generally, the simplest way to look at, you know, the financial accretion from the Inigo acquisition, using round numbers, it's a $1.7 billion acquisition. The funds we used for that acquisition were part of our investment portfolio at Radian, between Radian Group and Guaranty, and they were earning, you know, call it a 4 or 5 percent yield. So we've now taken that $1.7 billion and deployed it into an operating business that we expect is going to earn a mid-teens return through the cycle. There's going to be some volatility.

Speaker #1: The funds we used for that acquisition were part of our investment portfolio at Radian, between Radian Group and Guarantee. And they were earning, call it a 4 or a 5 percent yield.

Speaker #1: So we've now taken that $1.7 billion and deployed it into an operating business that we expect is going to earn a mid-teens return through the cycle.

Speaker #1: There's going to be some volatility. It's actually been higher of late, but if you say it's mid-teens through the cycle, that's a call it a 10 percent step up in yield on 1.7 billion.

Dan Kobell: It's actually been higher of late, but if you say it's mid-teens through the cycle, that's a, call it a 10% step-up in yield on $1.7 billion, so you get to $170 million of incremental net income. And that's really the source of the financial accretion that we had in the transaction. We didn't have expense synergies or revenue synergies that we were relying on, so it's really fairly straightforward, taking Inigo as it exists and putting it into Radian. So from an execution risk perspective, I'd characterize it as fairly low.

Speaker #1: So you get to 170 million of incremental net income. And that's really the source of the financial accretion that we had in the transaction.

Speaker #1: We didn't have expense synergies or revenue synergies that we were relying on. So it's really fairly straightforward—taking Indigo as it exists and putting it into Radian.

Speaker #1: So from an execution risk perspective, I'd characterize it as fairly low. We have some light integration to do in terms of financial systems and reporting to be able to report our results on a consolidated basis.

Dan Kobell: We have some light integration to do in terms of, you know, financial systems and reporting to be able to report our results on a consolidated basis and some areas that we'll kind of look at that make sense at an enterprise level, to kind of, you know, think about on a consolidated basis. But really no change to what we provided in terms of financial guidance and feel very confident that we'll be able to deliver on that.

Speaker #1: And some areas that will kind of look at that make sense at an enterprise level to kind of think about on a consolidated basis.

Speaker #1: But really, no change to what we provided in terms of financial guidance, and we feel very confident that we'll be able to deliver on that.

Speaker #4: Got it. That's helpful, thank you. And then maybe just turning to the credit—you called out this strong cure trend on slide 21 of your deck.

Terry Ma: Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. And then maybe just turning to credit. You called out the strong cure trends on slide 21 of your deck, 90% of defaults curing within one year. Like, as we kind of look forward, how sticky can that 90% be as you have some of the more recent vintages kind of start to season and peak, which I imagine have probably less embedded equity as some of the earlier vintages?

Speaker #4: 90 percent of defaults curing within one year. As we kind of look forward, how sticky can that 90 percent be as you have some of the more recent vintages kind of start to season and peak, which I imagine have probably less embedded equity as some of the earlier vintages?

Speaker #1: Yeah. So that's a good question, Terry. And that's certainly something we'll continue to monitor. As you noted, the vintages, if you go back kind of that are seasoning now had significant home price appreciation and embedded equity.

Dan Kobell: ... Yeah, so that's a good question, Terry, and that's certainly something we'll continue to monitor. As you noted, you know, the vintages, if you go back kind of, you know, that are seasoning now, had significant home price appreciation and embedded equity. We do continue to see in our new defaults, very significant embedded equity is still what's coming through. So the more recent vintages, we're starting to see that play through now. Certainly going to be mindful of that. But the cure activity that we've seen has been very strong. As a reminder, we assume effectively 92.5% cumulative cure rate in terms of our reserving assumptions. So we take a fairly conservative view there relative to what we've seen over the last several years.

Speaker #1: We do continue to see, in our new defaults, very significant embedded equity is still what's coming through. So the more recent vintages—we're starting to see that play through now. Certainly, we're going to be mindful of that.

Speaker #1: But the cure activity that we've seen has been very strong. As a reminder, we assume effectively 92 and a half percent cumulative cure rate in terms of our reserving assumption.

Speaker #1: So we take a fairly conservative view there relative to what we've seen over the last several years. It remains to be seen in terms of how those more recent vintages play out because we're just not seeing that enter the default inventory in a significant number yet.

Dan Kobell: It remains to be seen in terms of how those more recent vintages play out, because we're just not seeing that enter the default inventory in a significant number yet. But we continue to see those cure trends play out very consistently, very favorable to what our original expectations were. And as far as credit trends overall, not really seeing any pockets of concern from a geography perspective across different credit segments or at a vintage level. Everything's playing out in line with or better than our expectations.

Speaker #1: But we continue to see those cure trends play out very consistently. Very favorable to what our original expectations were. And as far as credit trends overall, not really seeing any pockets of concern from a geography perspective.

Speaker #1: Across different credit segments, or at a vintage level, everything's playing out in line with or better than our expectations.

Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you.

Bose George: Got it. Thank you.

Terry Ma: Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you. And our next question comes from Mahir Bhatia of Bank of America. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mahira Bhatia of Bank of America. Your line is open.

Mihir Bhatia: Hey, on the pricing environment, can you just compare returns on new business today, versus a year ago?

Speaker #5: Hey, on the pricing environment, can you just compare returns on new business today versus a year ago?

Dan Kobell: I can start with that one, and then Rick can jump in for some color on pricing. So as far as our premium yield is probably the best way to look at it. Our yield on an in-force basis has been very consistent. It's been around 38 basis points now for really 3 years. It's a pretty good indication that what we're bringing into the portfolio and what's exiting, there's a pretty good balance from a pricing perspective. We're not really seeing that in-force yield move, and I noted in my prepared remarks that we expect that to be the case for 2026 as well. So a fair amount of stability there in terms of the blended rate of what's coming into the portfolio and what's leaving. I'll leave it to Rick from a pricing competition perspective.

Speaker #1: I can start with that one and then Rick can jump in for some color on pricing. So as far as our premium yield is probably the best way to look at it.

Speaker #1: Our yield on an inforce basis has been very consistent. It's been around 38 basis points now for really three years. That's a pretty good indication that what we're bringing into the portfolio and what's exiting, there's a pretty good balance from a pricing perspective.

Speaker #1: We're not really seeing that inforce yield move. And I noted in my preparer marks that we expect that to be the case for 2026 as well.

Speaker #1: So, a fair amount of stability there in terms of the blended rate of what's coming into the portfolio and what's leaving. I'll leave it to Rick from a pricing competition perspective.

Rick Thornberry: Yeah. First off, I'd just say, you know, we're very happy with the volume and the quality of what we saw in the fourth quarter and throughout 2025 from an economic value point of view. I would say industry pricing has been relatively stable, and it's a normal competitive environment, so nothing really noteworthy there. As we've stated, for us, we don't focus on market share. We focus on economic value and being disciplined and consistent in our approach. And we continue to see really attractive opportunities to leverage our data and analytics, to source NIW that has attractive economic value and risk-adjusted returns. So which we believe gives us the opportunity to construct a really high-value portfolio, as Dan mentioned in his earlier comments.

Speaker #6: Yeah, first off, I'd just say we're very happy with the volume and the quality of what we saw in the fourth quarter and throughout 2025 from an economic value point of view.

Speaker #6: I would say industry pricing has been relatively stable. And it's a normal competitive environment. So nothing really noteworthy there. As we've stated, for us, we don't focus on market share.

Speaker #6: We focus on economic value and being disciplined and consistent in our approach. And we continue to see really attractive opportunities to leverage our data and analytics to source NIW that has attractive economic value and risk-adjusted returns.

Speaker #6: So which we believe gives us the opportunity to construct a really high-value portfolio as Dan mentioned it as earlier comments. I think we use that, those analytics this year to grow our insurance enforce and find value, to grow that portfolio to all-time high to $283 billion.

Rick Thornberry: I think we used that, those analytics this year to grow our insurance in force and find value to grow that portfolio to an all-time high to $283 billion. And I think, you know, we would expect fluctuations quarter to quarter, but I think we've been relatively consistent over time because we focus on really trying to find the most attractive EV segments of the, of the market. One thing I would just highlight, because I think it's important to note, that maybe compared to other, other, MI companies that maybe are more heavily weighted to bid card structures, that we, we deem to be low value structures and can effectively limit the ability for us to leverage our proprietary data and analytics platforms to select risk where we see economic value.

Speaker #6: And I think we would expect fluctuations quarter to quarter, but I think we've been relatively consistent over time because we focus on really trying to find the most attractive EV segments of the market.

Speaker #6: One thing I would just highlight—because I think it's important to note—is that, compared to other MI companies that may be more heavily weighted to bid card structures, which we deem to be low-value structures, these can effectively limit the ability for us to leverage our proprietary data and analytics platforms to select risks where we see economic value.

Speaker #6: For us, today, over 80 percent of our current NIWs being sourced through our proprietary radar rates platform, which is our black box pricing. And it really plays to our strength.

Rick Thornberry: For us, today, over 80% of our current NIW is being sourced through our proprietary Radar Rates platform, which is our black box pricing. And it really plays to our strength, where we're able to leverage our analytics to price and select the loans we believe have the highest economic value based on loan and borrower attributes, based on our long-term view of geographic trends and differences across the industry. So I believe the combination, you know, as we've looked at this market the past year, we've seen very attractive opportunities from an economic value point of view. The combination of our industry-leading data and analytics and our view of customer from a quality of origination and servicing perspective, combined with our unwavering commitment to underwriting, I think really provides us with an advantage in terms of long-term portfolio construction. So we like this market.

Speaker #6: Where we're able to leverage our analytics to price and select the loans, we believe have the highest economic value based on loan and borrower attributes.

Speaker #6: Based on our long-term view of geographic trends and differences across the industry. So I believe the combination as we've looked at this market the past year, we've seen very attractive opportunities from an economic value point of view.

Speaker #6: The combination of our industry-leading data and analytics, and our view of the customer from a quality of origination and servicing perspective, combined with our unwavering commitment to underwriting, I think really provides us with an advantage in terms of long-term portfolio construction.

Speaker #6: So we like this market. I think our team's done a really good job of leveraging our tools to find value in the marketplace, working closely with our customers.

Rick Thornberry: I think our team has done a really good job of leveraging our tools to find value in the marketplace, working closely with our customers.

Speaker #5: Okay, awesome. Thank you so much. And then maybe just a quick one on Innigo. Is a mid- to high-80 percent combined ratio a good run rate to think about for that business?

Mihir Bhatia: Okay, awesome. Thank you so much. Then maybe just a quick one on Inigo. Is a mid to high 80% combined ratio a good run rate to think about for that business?

Speaker #1: Yeah, so we haven't provided any kind of forward guidance from an Indigo perspective. I think as we report our results, starting with the first quarter on a combined basis, we'll have all the key drivers for both Indigo and our MI business, and probably a segment reporting structure.

Dan Kobell: Yeah, so we haven't provided any kind of forward guidance from an Inigo perspective. I think as we report our results, starting with Q1 on a combined basis, you know, we'll, we'll have, all the key drivers for both Inigo and, and our MI business and probably a segment reporting structure. We'll be able to provide more detail at that time. So nothing forward. I think the, the combined ratio range that you, that you referenced, I think is kind of where they've been certainly over kind of their five years of operation. So understand if you want to kind of think about that as a good trend to use, but we'll, we'll, we'll provide updated guidance, as we move forward.

Speaker #1: We'll be able to provide more detail at that time, so nothing forward. I think the combined ratio range that you referenced is kind of where they've been, certainly over their five years of operation.

Speaker #1: So, understand if you want to kind of think about that as a good trend to use. But we'll provide updated guidance as we move forward.

Mihir Bhatia: Okay. Thank you so much.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you so much.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Rick Thornberry: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from Bose George of KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: And our next question comes from both George of KBW. Your line is open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Bose George of KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: I think, guys, good morning. Actually, I just wanted to first follow up on the question on the accretion. The $170 million is, I think, it's a pre-tax number, but you can just confirm that.

Bose George: Hey, guys, good morning. I just wanted to first follow up on the question on the accretion. The $170 million is, I think it's a pre-tax number, but you can just confirm that?

Speaker #1: Yeah. The way that I would explain that, boys, I think of that as a pre-tax number.

Dan Kobell: Yeah, the way that I would explain that, Bose, I think of that as a pre-tax number.

Bose George: Okay, great.

Speaker #7: Okay. Great. And sorry, go ahead.

Dan Kobell: And-

Bose George: Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker #1: No, I was going to say, I think if you take that $170 and you apply that to our equity-based using call it a 25 percent statutory tax rate in the UK for Indigo, you get to north of 200 basis points of ROE accretion.

Dan Kobell: No, I was going to say, I think if, if you take that 170 and you apply that to our equity base, using, call it a 25% statutory tax rate in the UK for Inigo, you get to north of 200 basis points of ROE accretion. So I think that's, that's the right math to use.

Speaker #1: So I think that's the right map to use.

Bose George: ... Okay, perfect. Thanks. And then, in terms of the premium to book value, is there going to be intangibles that need to be amortized? So do you know the split yet between goodwill and intangibles?

Speaker #7: Okay, perfect. Thanks. And then in terms of the premium to book value, is there going to be intangibles that need to be amortized? So, do you know the split yet between goodwill and intangibles?

Speaker #1: Yeah. So there will be intangibles. And some of them will most likely be amortizing. We are in the process of doing all the purchase accounting related to the transaction.

Dan Kobell: Yeah, so there will be intangibles, and some of them will most likely be amortizing. We are in the process of doing all the purchase accounting related to the transaction so that we don't have those numbers available and complete yet. But as I mentioned earlier, when we report our results for the first quarter, we will certainly have that and be able to kind of specify what the intangibles are and kind of what the amortization periods are gonna look like for those.

Speaker #1: So we don't have those numbers available in complete yet. But as I mentioned earlier, when we report our results for the first quarter, we will certainly have that and be able to kind of specify what the intangibles are and kind of what the amortization periods are going to look like for those.

Bose George: Okay, great. And then just one on the buybacks. You know, you mentioned that we could see a resumption back half of the year. So if we look out to 2027, could we see buybacks, you know, back at the pre-Inigo levels by next year?

Speaker #7: Okay, great. And then just one on the buybacks. You mentioned that we could see a resumption in the back half of the year. So if you look out to 2027, could we see buybacks back at the pre-Indigo levels by next year?

Speaker #1: I think given our by the way, both, thank you for that question. I think given kind of our strategic path forward with MI, our MI business, Indigo, combination, and the divestiture process underway, and the attractive financial metrics that we expect from the Indigo acquisition, I would just state that we think our shares are undervalued.

Rick Thornberry: I think, you know, given our... By the way, Bose, thank you for that question. I think given kind of our strategic path forward, you know, with MI, our MI business, Inigo combination, and the divestiture process underway, you know, and the attractive financial metrics that we expect from the Inigo acquisition, I would just state that we think our shares are undervalued. Probably not the first time you've ever heard a public company CEO say that, but I think that's the position we take today. And given the strength of our financial position heading into 2026, Dan walked through some of that in terms of, you know, the our current capital position and the transparency of future capital availability, we would expect to resume opportunistic share repurchases.

Speaker #1: Probably not the first time you've ever heard a public company CEO say that. But I think that's the position we take today. And given the strength of our financial position heading into 2026, Dan walked through some of that in terms of the current capital position and the transparency of future capital availability.

Speaker #1: We would expect to resume opportunistic share repurchases. And I think that's all based on the visibility of our MI business's embedded earnings from our insurance in-force portfolio, and the visibility to capital return we have from Rating Agency guarantee to group. And truthfully, we believe the combination with Indigo makes the value of our shares even more attractive.

Rick Thornberry: And I think that's all based on the visibility of MI, our MI business's embedded earnings, you know, from our insurance in force portfolio, and the visibility to capital return we have from Radian Guaranty, the group. And truthfully, we believe the combination with Inigo makes the value of our shares even more attractive. So we look forward to demonstrating the value of this, the strategic transformation as we go forward to all of our stakeholders. But I think we, you know, we see value in our shares.

Speaker #1: So we look forward to demonstrating the value of this strategic transformation as we go forward to all of our stakeholders. But I think we see value in our shares.

Speaker #7: Okay. Great. Thanks.

Bose George: Okay, great. Thanks.

Speaker #3: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Rick Thornberry for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Rick Thornberry for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thank you for joining us and for your interest in RADIAN. We look forward to reporting on our first combined results with Indigo next quarter—kind of exciting.

Rick Thornberry: Thank you for joining us and for your interest in Radian. We look forward to reporting on our first combined results with Inigo next quarter, kind of exciting, and demonstrating how our transformation into a global multiline specialty insurer can create additional value for our customers, partners, and stockholders. We're excited to speak with many of you in the coming months and share more of our story as it continues to unfold, and again, look forward to that first quarter reporting cycle. So thank you and appreciate your interest, and be well.

Speaker #1: And demonstrating how our transformation into a global multi-line specialty insurer can create additional value for our customers, partners, and stockholders. And we're excited to speak with many of you in the coming months and share more of our story as it continues to unfold.

Speaker #1: And again, look forward to that first quarter reporting cycle. So thank you and appreciate your interest. And be well.

Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.

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