Q4 2025 Expro Group Holdings NV Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, the Expro Q4 2025 earnings presentation will begin shortly with your host, Dave Wilson. We appreciate your patience as we prepare your session today.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, the Expro Q4 2025 Earnings Presentation will begin shortly with your host, Dave Wilson. We appreciate your patience as we prepare your session today. During the call, we encourage participants to raise any questions they may have. You can raise a question by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad, and to remove yourself from line of questioning, will be star followed by two. We'll begin shortly. Good morning or good afternoon, all, and thank you for joining us for the Expro Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Carly. I'll be your conference call coordinator today. If you'd like to raise a question during the call, you can do so by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. To remove yourself from line of questioning, hit star followed by two. I'll now hand over to our host, Dave Wilson, Investor Relations.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, the Expro Q4 2025 Earnings Presentation will begin shortly with your host, Dave Wilson. We appreciate your patience as we prepare your session today. During the call, we encourage participants to raise any questions they may have. You can raise a question by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad, and to remove yourself from line of questioning, will be star followed by two. We'll begin shortly. Good morning or good afternoon, all, and thank you for joining us for the Expro Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Carly. I'll be your conference call coordinator today. If you'd like to raise a question during the call, you can do so by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. To remove yourself from line of questioning, hit star followed by two. I'll now hand over to our host, Dave Wilson, Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: During the call, we encourage participants to raise any questions they may have. You can raise a question by pressing star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad, and to remove yourself from the line of questioning, we'll be star followed by 2.
Speaker #1: We will begin shortly. Good morning or good afternoon, all, and thank you for joining us for the Expro Q4 2025 earnings conference call. My name is Carly, and I'll be your conference call coordinator today.
Speaker #1: If you'd like to raise a question during the call, you can do so by pressing star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. To remove yourself from the line of questioning, it's star followed by 2.
Speaker #1: On that hand, over to our host, Dave Wilson, Investor Relations. The floor is yours.
Operator: The floor is yours.
Operator: The floor is yours.
Speaker #2: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Expro's fourth quarter call for the year-ended 2025. I'm joined today by Mike Jardon, CEO, and Sergio Maiworm, CFO.
Dave Wilson: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Expro's fourth quarter call for the year ended 2025. I'm joined today by Mike Jardon, CEO, and Sergio Maiworm, CFO. Both Mike and Sergio will have some prepared remarks, after which we'll open the call for questions. As part of today's call, we have an accompanying presentation and supplemental financial information on our fourth quarter and full year results. Both of these are posted on the Expro website, expro.com, under the investors section. Before we begin today's call, I'll remind everyone that some of today's comments may refer to or contain forward-looking statements. Such statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Dave Wilson: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Expro's fourth quarter call for the year ended 2025. I'm joined today by Mike Jardon, CEO, and Sergio Maiworm, CFO. Both Mike and Sergio will have some prepared remarks, after which we'll open the call for questions. As part of today's call, we have an accompanying presentation and supplemental financial information on our fourth quarter and full year results. Both of these are posted on the Expro website, expro.com, under the investors section. Before we begin today's call, I'll remind everyone that some of today's comments may refer to or contain forward-looking statements. Such statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Speaker #2: Both Mike and Sergio will have some career remarks after which we'll open the call for questions. As part of today's call, we have an accompanying presentation and supplemental financial information on our fourth quarter and full-year results.
Speaker #2: Both of these are posted on the Expo website, expro.com, under the Investors section. Before we begin today's call, I'll remind everyone that some of today's comments may refer to or contain forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Such statements are not guaranteed to future performance and are subject to risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements.
Speaker #2: These statements speak only as today's date and the company assumes no responsibility to update such forward-looking statements. The company has included in its SEC filing cautionary language identifying important risk factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those set forth in any forward-looking statements.
Dave Wilson: These statements speak only as of today's date, and the company assumes no responsibility to update such forward-looking statements. The company has included in its SEC filing cautionary language identifying important risk factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those set forth in any forward-looking statements. A more complete discussion of these risks is included in the company's SEC filings, which can be found on the SEC website, sec.gov, or on our website, again, expro.com. Please note that any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings release, which was issued this morning and can also be found on our website. With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike.
Dave Wilson: These statements speak only as of today's date, and the company assumes no responsibility to update such forward-looking statements. The company has included in its SEC filing cautionary language identifying important risk factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those set forth in any forward-looking statements. A more complete discussion of these risks is included in the company's SEC filings, which can be found on the SEC website, sec.gov, or on our website, again, expro.com. Please note that any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings release, which was issued this morning and can also be found on our website. With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike.
Speaker #2: A more complete discussion of these risks is included in the company's SEC filings, which can be found on the sec.gov, or on our website, again, expro.com.
Speaker #2: Please note that any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our fourth quarter and full-year 2025 earnings release, which was issued this morning and can also be found on our website.
Speaker #2: With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike.
Speaker #3: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Expro's fourth quarter call. I'll begin by reviewing the fourth quarter and full-year 2025 financial results from today's press release.
Mike Jardon: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Expro's Q4 call. I'll begin by reviewing the Q4 and full year 2025 financial results from today's press release. Next, I'll cover Expro's strong backlog, the macro environment, and the current outlook for the year ahead, as well as give some input on some guidance. We will conclude with operational highlights for the quarter. Sergio will then provide some further details on our financial performance and address the company's ongoing capital allocation framework. So let's begin on slide number 3. For the year, 2025 marked another year with several successes for the company. We delivered on expanding margins, cost efficiencies, higher free cash flow generation, a strong balance sheet, technology deployments, and not least of all, returning cash to shareholders.
Mike Jardon: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Expro's Q4 call. I'll begin by reviewing the Q4 and full year 2025 financial results from today's press release. Next, I'll cover Expro's strong backlog, the macro environment, and the current outlook for the year ahead, as well as give some input on some guidance. We will conclude with operational highlights for the quarter. Sergio will then provide some further details on our financial performance and address the company's ongoing capital allocation framework. So let's begin on slide Number 3. For the year, 2025 marked another year with several successes for the company. We delivered on expanding margins, cost efficiencies, higher free cash flow generation, a strong balance sheet, technology deployments, and not least of all, returning cash to shareholders.
Speaker #3: Next, I'll cover Expro's strong backlog, the macro environment, and the current outlook for the year ahead as well as give some input on some guidance.
Speaker #3: We will conclude with operational highlights for the quarter. Sergio will then provide some further details on our financial performance and address the company's ongoing capital allocation framework.
Speaker #3: So let's begin on slide number 3. For the year, 2025 marked another year with several successes for the company. We delivered on expanding margins, cost efficiencies, higher free cash flow generation, a strong balance sheet, technology deployments, and, not least of all, returning cash to shareholders.
Speaker #3: The company generated just over $1.6 billion of revenue, and $353 million of adjusted EBITDA representing a 22% margin. This financial performance was within the guidance ranges previously provided.
Mike Jardon: The company generated just over $1.6 billion of revenue and $353 million of adjusted EBITDA, representing a 22% margin. This financial performance was within the guidance ranges previously provided. Additionally, it represents the progress we have made in expanding our margins, moving us closer to our longer-term goal of EBITDA margins at 25%. A key metric that registered above the guidance range was adjusted free cash flow, which came in at $127 million for the year, more than doubling the amount generated in 2024. Going forward into 2026, we expect another sequential increase in the amount of free cash flow that the company can generate. For the quarter, the company reported quarterly revenue of $382 million and adjusted EBITDA of $88 million, representing a 23% margin in the quarter.
Mike Jardon: The company generated just over $1.6 billion of revenue and $353 million of adjusted EBITDA, representing a 22% margin. This financial performance was within the guidance ranges previously provided. Additionally, it represents the progress we have made in expanding our margins, moving us closer to our longer-term goal of EBITDA margins at 25%. A key metric that registered above the guidance range was adjusted free cash flow, which came in at $127 million for the year, more than doubling the amount generated in 2024. Going forward into 2026, we expect another sequential increase in the amount of free cash flow that the company can generate. For the quarter, the company reported quarterly revenue of $382 million and adjusted EBITDA of $88 million, representing a 23% margin in the quarter.
Speaker #3: Additionally, it represents the progress we have made in expanding our margins, moving us closer to our longer-term goal of EBITDA margins at 25%. A key metric that registered above the guidance range was adjusted free cash flow, which came in at $127 million for the year, more than doubling the amount generated in 2024.
Speaker #3: Going forward into 2026, we expect another sequential increase in the amount of free cash flow that the company can generate. For the quarter, the company reported quarterly revenue of $382 million, and adjusted EBITDA of $88 million, representing a 23% margin in the quarter.
Speaker #3: Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $28 million, or 7% of revenue. These quarterly and annual financial results reflect the ongoing operational efficiency gains, technological product advancements, and their impact on margins and cash flow, and the continued impact of our globalization strategy.
Mike Jardon: Adjusted Free Cash Flow for the quarter was $28 million or 7% of revenue. These quarterly and annual financial results reflect the ongoing operational efficiency gains, technological product advancements, and their impact on margins and cash flow, and the continued impact of our globalization strategy. Moving to slide 4, Expro's $2.5 billion backlog reflects a $196 million increase during the fourth quarter. Our current backlog provides robust revenue visibility heading into 2026 and reinforces the strength of our diverse portfolio and operations across our geographic regions. Within our backlog are long-term contracts, which provide a solid base and some stability in our revenue generation. One such recent example was a four-year, $380 million contract for a customer in North Africa.
Mike Jardon: Adjusted Free Cash Flow for the quarter was $28 million or 7% of revenue. These quarterly and annual financial results reflect the ongoing operational efficiency gains, technological product advancements, and their impact on margins and cash flow, and the continued impact of our globalization strategy. Moving to slide 4, Expro's $2.5 billion backlog reflects a $196 million increase during the fourth quarter. Our current backlog provides robust revenue visibility heading into 2026 and reinforces the strength of our diverse portfolio and operations across our geographic regions. Within our backlog are long-term contracts, which provide a solid base and some stability in our revenue generation. One such recent example was a four-year, $380 million contract for a customer in North Africa.
Speaker #3: Moving to slide 4, Expro's 2.5 billion backlog reflects $196 million increase during the fourth quarter. Our current backlog provides robust revenue visibility, heading into 2026, and reinforces the strength of our diverse portfolio and operations across our geographic regions.
Speaker #3: Within our backlog, our long-term contracts, which provide a solid base and some stability in our revenue generation. One such recent example was a four-year $380 million contract for a customer in North Africa.
Speaker #3: This achievement represents one of Expro's largest single-customer awards and I'll address this in a little bit more detail in some of my comments later on.
Mike Jardon: This achievement represents one of Expro's largest single customer awards, and I'll address this in a little bit more detail in some of my comments later on. Now, as we've mentioned before, this level of backlog is encouraging and supports our strategic planning and visibility on revenue, but it does not represent a guarantee of future outcomes. Rather, we view our backlog as a reasonableness test and health check for our business, one that offers insight into the business going forward. As we look to the year ahead, we consider the evolving market landscape, which continues to shape demand, investment, and opportunity across the sector. Global demand for oil and gas remains resilient, supporting long-term investment, particularly in the international and offshore markets to which Expro is well positioned.
Mike Jardon: This achievement represents one of Expro's largest single customer awards, and I'll address this in a little bit more detail in some of my comments later on. Now, as we've mentioned before, this level of backlog is encouraging and supports our strategic planning and visibility on revenue, but it does not represent a guarantee of future outcomes. Rather, we view our backlog as a reasonableness test and health check for our business, one that offers insight into the business going forward. As we look to the year ahead, we consider the evolving market landscape, which continues to shape demand, investment, and opportunity across the sector. Global demand for oil and gas remains resilient, supporting long-term investment, particularly in the international and offshore markets to which Expro is well positioned.
Speaker #3: Now, as we've mentioned before, this level of backlog is encouraging and supports our strategic planning and visibility on revenue. But it does not represent a guarantee of future outcomes.
Speaker #3: Rather, we view our backlog as a reasonableness test and health check for our business. One that offers insight into the business going forward. As we look to the year ahead, we consider the evolving market landscape, which continues to shape demand investment and opportunity across the sector.
Speaker #3: Global demand for oil and gas remains resilient, supporting long-term investment, particularly in the international and offshore markets to which Expro is well positioned. We believe the current macro environment, or result in a modest recovery in upstream investment, with growth concentrated in international and offshore projects, particularly deep water developments.
Mike Jardon: We believe the current macro environment will result in a modest recovery in upstream investment, with growth concentrated in international and offshore projects, particularly deepwater developments. This will be supportive of demand for Expro's well construction, well flow management, subsea, and digital solutions. While brownfield optimization and production enhancement requirements from our customers continue to provide prospects for our well intervention, production optimization, and digital offerings. Expro's diverse service portfolio, strong international footprint, technology differentiation, and operational efficiency position us to capture opportunities across our geographic segments. To summarize, Expro maintains a cautiously constructive outlook for 2026 and beyond, allowing us to continue supporting customers throughout the full well lifecycle of their assets. Turning to slide 5, we are providing our 2026 financial guidance based upon what we currently see in the global market.
Mike Jardon: We believe the current macro environment will result in a modest recovery in upstream investment, with growth concentrated in international and offshore projects, particularly deepwater developments. This will be supportive of demand for Expro's well construction, well flow management, subsea, and digital solutions. While brownfield optimization and production enhancement requirements from our customers continue to provide prospects for our well intervention, production optimization, and digital offerings. Expro's diverse service portfolio, strong international footprint, technology differentiation, and operational efficiency position us to capture opportunities across our geographic segments. To summarize, Expro maintains a cautiously constructive outlook for 2026 and beyond, allowing us to continue supporting customers throughout the full well lifecycle of their assets. Turning to Slide 5, we are providing our 2026 financial guidance based upon what we currently see in the global market.
Speaker #3: This will be supportive of demand for Expro's well-construction, well-flow management, subsea, and digital solutions. While brownfold optimization and production enhancement requirements from our customers continue to provide prospects for our well intervention, production optimization, and digital offerings.
Speaker #3: Expro's diverse service portfolio, strong international footprint, technology differentiation, and operational efficiency position us to capture opportunities across our geographic segments. To summarize, Expro maintains a cautiously constructive outlook for 2026 and beyond.
Speaker #3: Allowing us to continue supporting customers throughout the full well lifecycle of their assets. Turning to slide 5, we are providing our 2026 financial guidance based upon what we currently see in the global market.
Speaker #3: For the year, projected revenue for 2026 looked to be at similar levels to 2025. And although revenue expectations remain relatively flat this year, Expro remains strongly committed to further expanding EBITDA margins and free cash flow generation.
Mike Jardon: For the year, projected revenue for 2026 looks to be at similar levels to 2025. Although revenue expectations remain relatively flat this year, Expro remains strongly committed to further expanding EBITDA margins and free cash flow generation. We plan to achieve this with a full year benefiting from our Drive 25 initiative, our increased capital efficiency, and further improving our wallet share with existing customers. To that end, we expect our 2026 CapEx to be similar to that of the 2025 level. Looking more near term, and specifically at our Q1 guidance, you will notice that we expect our Q1 results to be impacted by the normal seasonal factors that we experience almost every year in our business.
Mike Jardon: For the year, projected revenue for 2026 looks to be at similar levels to 2025. Although revenue expectations remain relatively flat this year, Expro remains strongly committed to further expanding EBITDA margins and free cash flow generation. We plan to achieve this with a full year benefiting from our Drive 25 initiative, our increased capital efficiency, and further improving our wallet share with existing customers. To that end, we expect our 2026 CapEx to be similar to that of the 2025 level. Looking more near term, and specifically at our Q1 guidance, you will notice that we expect our Q1 results to be impacted by the normal seasonal factors that we experience almost every year in our business.
Speaker #3: We plan to achieve this with a full year benefiting from our Drive 25 initiative, our increased capital efficiency, and further improving our wallet share with existing customers.
Speaker #3: To that end, we expect our 2026 CapEx to be similar to that of the 2025 level. Looking more near-term and specifically at our first quarter guidance, you will notice that we expect our first quarter results to be impacted by the normal seasonal factors that we experience almost every year in our business.
Speaker #3: The U.S. activity and revenue levels for the first quarter are projected to decline from fourth quarter, due to the winter season in the northern hemisphere, where the U.K.
Mike Jardon: The US activity and revenue levels for Q1 are projected to decline from Q4 due to the winter season in the Northern Hemisphere, where the UK or Norwegian North Sea, as well as the US Gulf activity, tends to be lower due to ongoing winter storms and rougher than normal seas, which makes it harder to operate in the offshore environment. Additionally, the seasonal dip is due to some customers' CapEx and operational spend that tend to be lower at the start of their annual budget cycles, which tends to be the case with most of our NOC customers. To be clear, the lower level of projected revenue and margins for the quarter is due to the normal seasonality of our business and not representative of our overall expectations for the year.
Mike Jardon: The US activity and revenue levels for Q1 are projected to decline from Q4 due to the winter season in the Northern Hemisphere, where the UK or Norwegian North Sea, as well as the US Gulf activity, tends to be lower due to ongoing winter storms and rougher than normal seas, which makes it harder to operate in the offshore environment. Additionally, the seasonal dip is due to some customers' CapEx and operational spend that tend to be lower at the start of their annual budget cycles, which tends to be the case with most of our NOC customers. To be clear, the lower level of projected revenue and margins for the quarter is due to the normal seasonality of our business and not representative of our overall expectations for the year.
Speaker #3: and Norwegian North Sea, as well as the U.S. Gulf, activity tends to be lower due to ongoing winter storms and rougher than normal seas.
Speaker #3: Which makes it harder to operate in the offshore environment. Additionally, the seasonal dip is due to some customers' CapEx and operational spend that tend to be lower at the start of their annual budget cycles, which tends to be the case with most of our NOC customers.
Speaker #3: To be clear, the lower level of projected revenue and margins for the quarter is due to the normal seasonality of our business and not representative of our overall expectations for the year.
Speaker #3: Overall, based on our activity outlook and our position today, I'm confident in our ability to achieve these 2026 objectives. Before turning to our customer and technology highlights, I want to revisit a few themes that set Expro apart and that we think are important attributes for investors to consider.
Mike Jardon: Overall, based on our activity outlook and our position today, I'm confident in our ability to achieve these 2026 objectives. Before turning to our customer and technology highlights, I want to revisit a few themes that sets Expro apart and that we think are important attributes for investors to consider. You see these on slide number 6. Due to our exposure across the well lifecycle, we see opportunities to expand our wallet share with existing customers. We can do this by providing additional or enhanced services to customers, leveraging our installed base to help expand margins, especially with the deployment of new technologies. Another theme central to Expro is our commitment to technology and innovation. While the rate of technology adoption varies greatly among customers, geographic regions, and the different parts of a well lifecycle, its importance cannot be overstated.
Mike Jardon: Overall, based on our activity outlook and our position today, I'm confident in our ability to achieve these 2026 objectives. Before turning to our customer and technology highlights, I want to revisit a few themes that sets Expro apart and that we think are important attributes for investors to consider. You see these on slide Number 6. Due to our exposure across the well lifecycle, we see opportunities to expand our wallet share with existing customers. We can do this by providing additional or enhanced services to customers, leveraging our installed base to help expand margins, especially with the deployment of new technologies. Another theme central to Expro is our commitment to technology and innovation. While the rate of technology adoption varies greatly among customers, geographic regions, and the different parts of a well lifecycle, its importance cannot be overstated.
Speaker #3: You see these on slide number 6. Due to our exposure to across-the-world lifecycle, we see opportunities to expand our wallet share with existing customers.
Speaker #3: We can do this by providing additional or enhanced services to customers, leveraging our installed base to help expand margins, especially with the deployment of new technologies.
Speaker #3: Another theme central to Expro is our commitment to technology and innovation. While the rate of technology adoption varies greatly among customers, geographic regions, and the different parts of a well lifecycle, it's important cannot be overstated.
Speaker #3: Without technology and innovation, we think it is very difficult to remain competitive or relevant in this industry. We put a lot of emphasis on this as we know it creates value for both our customers as well as our shareholders.
Mike Jardon: Without technology and innovation, we think it is very difficult to remain competitive or relevant in this industry. We put a lot of emphasis on this, as we know it creates value for both our customers as well as our shareholders. Additionally, our global footprint enables us to leverage technologies internally developed or acquired through M&A in one geography, to then deploy them to another geography where we operate. For example, our acquisition of Coretrax in 2024. That business was primarily in roughly 18 countries at the time of the acquisition, but now we're deploying those technologies that we've acquired across roughly 31 countries. Moving to our customer technology highlights for the quarter on slide 7. During Q4, Expro continued to deliver safe and reliable performance to our customers across our global portfolio.
Mike Jardon: Without technology and innovation, we think it is very difficult to remain competitive or relevant in this industry. We put a lot of emphasis on this, as we know it creates value for both our customers as well as our shareholders. Additionally, our global footprint enables us to leverage technologies internally developed or acquired through M&A in one geography, to then deploy them to another geography where we operate. For example, our acquisition of Coretrax in 2024. That business was primarily in roughly 18 countries at the time of the acquisition, but now we're deploying those technologies that we've acquired across roughly 31 countries. Moving to our customer technology highlights for the quarter on Slide 7. During Q4, Expro continued to deliver safe and reliable performance to our customers across our global portfolio.
Speaker #3: Additionally, our global footprint enables us to leverage technologies internally developed or acquired through M&A in one geographically to then deploy them to another geography where we operate.
Speaker #3: For example, our acquisition of Cortrax in 2024. That business was primarily in roughly 18 countries at the time of the acquisition, but now we're deploying those technologies that we've acquired across roughly 31 countries.
Speaker #3: Moving to our customer and technology highlights for the quarter on slide 7. During the fourth quarter, Expro continued to deliver safe and reliable performance to our customers across our global portfolio.
Speaker #3: We secured several major contract wins, advanced key technology deployments, and demonstrated our commitment to safety for both our employees as well as our customers.
Mike Jardon: We secured several major contract wins, advanced key technology deployments, and demonstrated our commitment to safety for both our employees as well as our customers. While there have been several notable operational achievements and customer successes for the quarter, I would just quickly highlight four. This quarter, Expro secured one of the company's largest single customer awards, a four-year, $380 million contract across multiple fields in North Africa for production optimization and well management services. Also, during the quarter, the company successfully deployed its proprietary extended range drilling, or XRD Spider. It is the first and only 1,250-ton spider of its kind. This innovative technology supports drilling, tripping, and landing string operations, significantly reducing tool change-outs. Consequently, it saves substantial rig time and minimizes red zone exposure, thereby enhancing both operational efficiency and safety.
Mike Jardon: We secured several major contract wins, advanced key technology deployments, and demonstrated our commitment to safety for both our employees as well as our customers. While there have been several notable operational achievements and customer successes for the quarter, I would just quickly highlight four. This quarter, Expro secured one of the company's largest single customer awards, a four-year, $380 million contract across multiple fields in North Africa for production optimization and well management services. Also, during the quarter, the company successfully deployed its proprietary extended range drilling, or XRD Spider. It is the first and only 1,250-ton spider of its kind. This innovative technology supports drilling, tripping, and landing string operations, significantly reducing tool change-outs. Consequently, it saves substantial rig time and minimizes red zone exposure, thereby enhancing both operational efficiency and safety.
Speaker #3: While there have been several notable operational achievements and customer successes for the quarter, I would just quickly highlight four. This quarter, Expro secured one of the company's largest single-customer awards of four-year $380 million contract across multiple fields in North Africa, for production optimization and well management services.
Speaker #3: Also during the quarter, the company successfully deployed its proprietary extended-range drilling or XRD spider. It is the first and only 1,250-ton spider of its kind.
Speaker #3: This innovative technology supports drilling, tripping, and landing string operations, significantly reducing tool changeouts. Consequently, it saves substantial rig time and minimizes red zone exposure.
Speaker #3: Thereby enhancing both operational efficiency and safety. Expro plans to deploy the XRD spider to more customer operations and expand the fleet in accordance with customer demand.
Mike Jardon: Expro plans to deploy the XRD Spider to more customer operations and expand the fleet in accordance with customer demand. In Australia, Expro successfully supported a major operator in delivering one of the region's largest offshore campaigns, completing multiple subsea wells with zero QHSE incidents. The campaign involved integrating subsea well testing and sampling capabilities, resulting in over 2,200 man days of activity, in which we received job performance review scores of 100%. In Indonesia, our CATs ATX system enabled real-time wireless downhole data and remote valve control during drill stem testing. This product offering, again, demonstrates Expro's commitment to innovation and risk reduction in well operations. Before moving on, I would like to address another geography that has been topical as of late, and that is Venezuela.
Mike Jardon: Expro plans to deploy the XRD Spider to more customer operations and expand the fleet in accordance with customer demand. In Australia, Expro successfully supported a major operator in delivering one of the region's largest offshore campaigns, completing multiple subsea wells with zero QHSE incidents. The campaign involved integrating subsea well testing and sampling capabilities, resulting in over 2,200 man days of activity, in which we received job performance review scores of 100%. In Indonesia, our CATs ATX system enabled real-time wireless downhole data and remote valve control during drill stem testing. This product offering, again, demonstrates Expro's commitment to innovation and risk reduction in well operations. Before moving on, I would like to address another geography that has been topical as of late, and that is Venezuela.
Speaker #3: In Australia, Expro successfully supported a major operator in delivering one of the region's largest offshore campaigns. Completing multiple subsea wells with zero QHSC incidents.
Speaker #3: The campaign involved integrating subsea well testing and sampling capabilities, resulting in over 2,200 mandates of activity, in which we received job performance review scores of 100%.
Speaker #3: In Indonesia, our CATS ATX system enabled real-time wireless downhole data and remote valve control during drill stem testing. This product offering, again, demonstrates Expro's commitment to innovation and risk reduction in well operations.
Speaker #3: Before moving on, I would like to address another geography that has been topical as of late, and that is Venezuela. Having lived and worked earlier in my career in Venezuela, I'm intimately aware of the geological reservoir and production challenges in the country.
Mike Jardon: Having lived and worked earlier in my career in Venezuela, I'm intimately aware of the geological, reservoir, and production challenges in the country. These high technology and challenging conditions are where the Expro Solutions approach really shines. While we don't currently see any near-term opportunities in the country, we do believe we are well-positioned should opportunities arise in the future. Expro has operated in Venezuela for many years previously, still having a facility and some stranded equipment in the country related to both our tubular running services as well as our well flow management product lines. For now, we will stay engaged with our customers that may have opportunities there to develop, but also realize that this will take time and a significant amount of industry investment in order to mature these opportunities.
Mike Jardon: Having lived and worked earlier in my career in Venezuela, I'm intimately aware of the geological, reservoir, and production challenges in the country. These high technology and challenging conditions are where the Expro Solutions approach really shines. While we don't currently see any near-term opportunities in the country, we do believe we are well-positioned should opportunities arise in the future. Expro has operated in Venezuela for many years previously, still having a facility and some stranded equipment in the country related to both our tubular running services as well as our well flow management product lines. For now, we will stay engaged with our customers that may have opportunities there to develop, but also realize that this will take time and a significant amount of industry investment in order to mature these opportunities.
Speaker #3: These high-technology and challenging conditions are where the Expro solutions approach really shines. While we don't currently see any near-term opportunities in the country, we do believe we are well positioned should opportunities arise in the future.
Speaker #3: Expro has operated in Venezuela for many years, previously, still having a facility and some stranded equipment in the country related to both our tubular running services as well as our well flow management product lines.
Speaker #3: For now, we will stay engaged with our customers that may have opportunities there to develop, but also realize that this will take time and a significant amount of industry investment in order to mature these opportunities.
Speaker #3: Before turning over to Sergio, I'd like to remind everyone of Expro's long-term strategic pillars. These that we adhere to to drive value for our shareholders, we see on slide number 8.
Mike Jardon: Before turning over to Sergio, I'd like to remind everyone of Expro's long-term strategic pillars, these that we adhere to, to drive value for our shareholders. We see on slide number 8. Expro's long-term strategy is to build a large, diversified company with a compelling business and product mix and market leadership positions. We are striving to build a company that is able to generate healthy levels of free cash flow, which will be used to achieve our various capital allocation goals, which Sergio will expand on in his comments later on. One of these strategic pillars is our commitment to continually improving the company's financial profile.
Mike Jardon: Before turning over to Sergio, I'd like to remind everyone of Expro's long-term strategic pillars, these that we adhere to, to drive value for our shareholders. We see on slide Number 8. Expro's long-term strategy is to build a large, diversified company with a compelling business and product mix and market leadership positions. We are striving to build a company that is able to generate healthy levels of free cash flow, which will be used to achieve our various capital allocation goals, which Sergio will expand on in his comments later on. One of these strategic pillars is our commitment to continually improving the company's financial profile.
Speaker #3: Expro's long-term strategy is to build a large, diversified company with a compelling business and product mix and market leadership positions. We are striving to build a company that is able to generate healthy levels of free cash flow which will be used to achieve our various capital allocation goals which Sergio will expand on in his comments later on.
Speaker #3: One of these strategic pillars is our commitment to continually improving the company's financial profile. The avenues used to achieve this goal are our relentless focus on margin expansion and free cash flow generation, our ability to drive cost efficiencies and reduce capital intensity, and our ability to return cash to shareholders, all backed by a strong balance sheet.
Mike Jardon: The avenues used to achieve this goal are our relentless focus on margin expansion and free cash flow generation, our ability to drive cost efficiencies and reduce capital intensity, and our ability to return cash to shareholders, all backed by a strong balance sheet. Another pillar is our technical leadership and innovation. We continually develop and deploy new technologies into the market across our global footprint. This footprint also enables us to globalize technologies that we have acquired through acquisitions, and then implementing those technologies in one geography location to another. Finally, Expro looks to grow through inorganic, scalable acquisitions. We seek opportunities to target international and offshore opportunities that have adjacent product offerings and are accretive to the company's financial position. We have made several successful and accretive acquisitions and have developed a proven blueprint for integrating acquired businesses in an efficient and cost-effective manner.
Mike Jardon: The avenues used to achieve this goal are our relentless focus on margin expansion and free cash flow generation, our ability to drive cost efficiencies and reduce capital intensity, and our ability to return cash to shareholders, all backed by a strong balance sheet. Another pillar is our technical leadership and innovation. We continually develop and deploy new technologies into the market across our global footprint. This footprint also enables us to globalize technologies that we have acquired through acquisitions, and then implementing those technologies in one geography location to another. Finally, Expro looks to grow through inorganic, scalable acquisitions. We seek opportunities to target international and offshore opportunities that have adjacent product offerings and are accretive to the company's financial position. We have made several successful and accretive acquisitions and have developed a proven blueprint for integrating acquired businesses in an efficient and cost-effective manner.
Speaker #3: Another pillar is our technical leadership and innovation. We continually develop and deploy new technologies into the market across our global footprint. This footprint also enables us to globalize technologies that we have acquired through acquisitions, and then implement those technologies from one geographic location to another.
Speaker #3: Finally, Expro looks to grow through inorganic scalable acquisitions. We seek opportunities to target international and offshore opportunities that have adjacent product offerings and are accretive to the company's financial position.
Speaker #3: We have made several successful and accretive acquisitions and have developed a proven blueprint for integrating acquired businesses in an efficient and cost-effective manner. With that, I'll turn the call over to Sergio to review our financial results in detail.
Mike Jardon: With that, I'll turn the call over to Sergio to review our financial results in detail.
Mike Jardon: With that, I'll turn the call over to Sergio to review our financial results in detail.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Mike, and good morning to everyone on the call. As Mike noted, Expro executed well on its financial results for both the quarter and full year.
Sergio Maiworm: Thank you, Mike, and good morning to everyone on the call. As Mike noted, Expro executed well on its financial results for both the quarter and full year. While annual revenue was at the lower end of guidance, the free cash flow generated surpassed expectations and exceeded the high end of guidance. Specifically to Q4, our adjusted EBITDA was $88 million, with a margin of 23.1%, up about 30 basis points from last quarter and 10 basis points year-over-year. For the year 2025, adjusted EBITDA was $353 million with a margin of 22%, up 170 basis points year-over-year. Slide 9 illustrates our annual margin growth for the past few years....
Sergio Maiworm: Thank you, Mike, and good morning to everyone on the call. As Mike noted, Expro executed well on its financial results for both the quarter and full year. While annual revenue was at the lower end of guidance, the free cash flow generated surpassed expectations and exceeded the high end of guidance. Specifically to Q4, our adjusted EBITDA was $88 million, with a margin of 23.1%, up about 30 basis points from last quarter and 10 basis points year-over-year. For the year 2025, adjusted EBITDA was $353 million with a margin of 22%, up 170 basis points year-over-year. Slide 9 illustrates our annual margin growth for the past few years....
Speaker #1: While annual revenue was at the lower end of guidance, the free cash flow generated surpassed expectations and exceeded the high end of guidance. Specifically to Q4, our adjusted EBITDA was 88 million dollars with a margin of 23.1%, up about 30 basis points from last quarter and 10 basis points year over year.
Speaker #1: For the year 2025, adjusted EBITDA was $353 million with a margin of 22%, up 170 basis points year over year. Slide 9 illustrates our annual margin growth for the past few years.
Speaker #1: We remain confident that we will experience further margin expansion in 2026, driven by a full-year impact of our DRIVE25 cost-efficiency initiative increased customer wallet share at higher margins, and continued international growth resulting from previous acquisitions like CORTRAX.
Sergio Maiworm: We remain confident that we will experience further margin expansion in 2026, driven by a full year impact of our Drive 25 cost efficiency initiative, increased customer wallet share at higher margins, and continued international growth resulting from previous acquisitions like Coretrax. Moving to slide 10. Longer term, EBITDA margin expansion is not the goal in and of itself, but rather a means of increasing free cash flow generation. In Q4, XPRO posted its quarterly free cash flow generation of $28 million on an adjusted basis, bringing full year 2025 free cash flow generated to $127 million. Which again, was above the high end of the $110 to $120 million guidance, and more than double the amount of generated in the prior year.
Sergio Maiworm: We remain confident that we will experience further margin expansion in 2026, driven by a full year impact of our Drive 25 cost efficiency initiative, increased customer wallet share at higher margins, and continued international growth resulting from previous acquisitions like Coretrax. Moving to Slide 10. Longer term, EBITDA margin expansion is not the goal in and of itself, but rather a means of increasing free cash flow generation. In Q4, XPRO posted its quarterly free cash flow generation of $28 million on an adjusted basis, bringing full year 2025 free cash flow generated to $127 million. Which again, was above the high end of the $110 to $120 million guidance, and more than double the amount of generated in the prior year.
Speaker #1: Moving to slide 10, longer term, EBITDA margin expansion is not the goal in and of itself. But rather, a means of increasing free cash flow generation.
Speaker #1: And in Q4, Expro posted its quarterly free cash flow generation of 28 million dollars on an adjusted basis bringing full-year 2025 free cash flow generated to 127 million dollars, which again was above the high end of the 110 and 120 million dollars guidance and more than double the amount of generated in the prior year.
Speaker #1: Along those lines, we expect even stronger free cash flow in 2026, both as a percentage of revenue and in absolute terms, as we plan to further reduce the capital intensity of the business, holding 2026 projected CapEx relatively flat.
Sergio Maiworm: Along those lines, we expect even stronger free cash flow in 2026, both as a percentage of revenue and in absolute terms, as we plan to further reduce the capital intensity of the business, holding 2026 projected CapEx relatively flat. Turning to liquidity, the company closed the quarter with $551 million in total liquidity. That includes $198 million in cash on the balance sheets after accounting for the voluntary prepayment on the revolving credit facility, which totaled $20 million during the quarter. This voluntary repayment reduced the outstanding drawn balance on the revolving credit facility from $99 million to $79 million as of 31 December 2025, further enhancing the company's net cash position.
Sergio Maiworm: Along those lines, we expect even stronger free cash flow in 2026, both as a percentage of revenue and in absolute terms, as we plan to further reduce the capital intensity of the business, holding 2026 projected CapEx relatively flat. Turning to liquidity, the company closed the quarter with $551 million in total liquidity. That includes $198 million in cash on the balance sheets after accounting for the voluntary prepayment on the revolving credit facility, which totaled $20 million during the quarter. This voluntary repayment reduced the outstanding drawn balance on the revolving credit facility from $99 million to $79 million as of 31 December 2025, further enhancing the company's net cash position.
Speaker #1: Turning to liquidity, the company closed the quarter with 551 million dollars in total liquidity. That includes 198 million dollars in cash in the balance sheet after accounting for the voluntary prepayment on the revolving credit facility which totaled 20 million dollars during the quarter.
Speaker #1: This voluntary repayment reduced the outstanding drawn balance on the revolving credit facility from $99 million to $79 million as of December 31, 2025.
Speaker #1: Further enhancing the company's net cash position. Before turning to our segment performance, I do want to reiterate and summarize our financial outlook for 2026 as Mike previously addressed in slide 5.
Sergio Maiworm: Before turning to our segment performance, I do want to reiterate and summarize our financial outlook for 2026, as Mike previously addressed in slide 5. Overall, we're cautiously optimistic with our 2026 outlook, recognizing the seasonal impacts on our projected Q1 results, with noticeable improvement in the subsequent quarters, with a stronger back half leading to a good start for 2027. Any anxiety over the flattish revenue guidance should be viewed in conjunction with projected sequential increases in Adjusted EBITDA, EBITDA margins, and free cash flow generation. The achievements will continue us on the path of one of the strategic pillars that Mike just mentioned: that of continued financial improvements, which we believe will ultimately translate into increased shareholder value. Now, I'd like to quickly address our segment performance this quarter before finally addressing our capital allocation framework.
Sergio Maiworm: Before turning to our segment performance, I do want to reiterate and summarize our financial outlook for 2026, as Mike previously addressed in Slide 5. Overall, we're cautiously optimistic with our 2026 outlook, recognizing the seasonal impacts on our projected Q1 results, with noticeable improvement in the subsequent quarters, with a stronger back half leading to a good start for 2027. Any anxiety over the flattish revenue guidance should be viewed in conjunction with projected sequential increases in Adjusted EBITDA, EBITDA margins, and free cash flow generation. The achievements will continue us on the path of one of the strategic pillars that Mike just mentioned: that of continued financial improvements, which we believe will ultimately translate into increased shareholder value. Now, I'd like to quickly address our segment performance this quarter before finally addressing our capital allocation framework.
Speaker #1: Overall, we're cautiously optimistic with our 2026 outlook. Recognizing the seasonal impacts on our projected first quarter results, with noticeable improvement in the subsequent quarters with a stronger back half leading to a good start for 2027.
Speaker #1: Any anxiety over the flattish revenue guidance should be viewed in conjunction with projected sequential increases in adjusted EBITDA EBITDA margins and free cash flow generation.
Speaker #1: The achievements will continue us on the path of one of the strategic pillars that Mike just mentioned. That of continued financial improvements, which we believe will ultimately translate into increased shareholder value.
Speaker #1: Now, I'd like to quickly address our segment performance this quarter before finally addressing our capital allocation framework. A reminder that details around our segment performances can also be found in the appendix of this presentation.
Sergio Maiworm: A reminder that details around our segment performances can also be found in the appendix of this presentation. Turning to regional results. For North and Latin America, or NLA, Q4 revenue was $130 million, or down $21 million quarter-over-quarter, reflecting lower subsea well access and well construction revenue in the US, where projects have shifted into 2026, offset by higher well intervention and integrity revenues in Argentina. Segment EBITDA margin at 24% was flat as compared to prior quarter. For Europe and Sub-Saharan Africa, or ESSA, Q4 revenue decreased $10 million to $116 million sequentially, primarily driven by lower subsea well access and well construction revenue in Angola and Central and West Africa, partially offset by higher well flow management revenues in Bulgaria.
Sergio Maiworm: A reminder that details around our segment performances can also be found in the appendix of this presentation. Turning to regional results. For North and Latin America, or NLA, Q4 revenue was $130 million, or down $21 million quarter-over-quarter, reflecting lower subsea well access and well construction revenue in the US, where projects have shifted into 2026, offset by higher well intervention and integrity revenues in Argentina. Segment EBITDA margin at 24% was flat as compared to prior quarter. For Europe and Sub-Saharan Africa, or ESSA, Q4 revenue decreased $10 million to $116 million sequentially, primarily driven by lower subsea well access and well construction revenue in Angola and Central and West Africa, partially offset by higher well flow management revenues in Bulgaria.
Speaker #1: Turning to regional results, for North and Latin America, or NLA, fourth quarter revenue was 130 million dollars, or down 21 million dollars quarter over quarter, reflecting lower subsequel axis and well construction revenue in the US where projects have shifted into 2026, offset by higher well intervention and integrity revenue in Argentina.
Speaker #1: Segment EBITDA margin at 24% was flat as compared to the prior quarter. For Europe and Sub-Saharan Africa, or ESSA, fourth quarter revenue decreased $10 million to $116 million sequentially, primarily driven by lower Subsea Well Access and Well Construction revenue in Angola and Central and West Africa.
Speaker #1: Partially offset by higher well flow management revenues in Bulgaria. Segment EBITDA margin at 34% was up approximately to 120 basis points sequentially, reflecting a favorable product mix.
Sergio Maiworm: Segment EBITDA margin at 34% was up approximately to 120 basis points sequentially, reflecting a favorable product mix. The Middle East and North Africa, or MENA, delivered another solid quarter, sequentially higher as compared to Q3, with revenues at $93 million, driven by an increase in well flow management revenue in Algeria and Saudi Arabia. MENA segment EBITDA was 39% of revenues, an increase of 400 basis points from the prior quarter, reflecting the higher well flow management activity and more favorable activity mix. Finally, in Asia Pacific, or APAC, fourth quarter revenue was $43 million, a decrease of $6 million relative to the third quarter, primarily reflecting the lower well flow management activity in Indonesia and India, lower well construction revenue in Australia, and offset by higher subsea well access activity also in Australia.
Sergio Maiworm: Segment EBITDA margin at 34% was up approximately to 120 basis points sequentially, reflecting a favorable product mix. The Middle East and North Africa, or MENA, delivered another solid quarter, sequentially higher as compared to Q3, with revenues at $93 million, driven by an increase in well flow management revenue in Algeria and Saudi Arabia. MENA segment EBITDA was 39% of revenues, an increase of 400 basis points from the prior quarter, reflecting the higher well flow management activity and more favorable activity mix. Finally, in Asia Pacific, or APAC, fourth quarter revenue was $43 million, a decrease of $6 million relative to the third quarter, primarily reflecting the lower well flow management activity in Indonesia and India, lower well construction revenue in Australia, and offset by higher subsea well access activity also in Australia.
Speaker #1: The Middle East and North Africa, or MENA, delivered another solid quarter, sequentially higher as compared to Q3, with revenues at 93 million dollars, driven by an increase in well flow management revenue in Algeria and Saudi Arabia.
Speaker #1: MENA segment EBITDA was 39% of revenues, an increase of 400 basis points from the prior quarter, reflecting the higher well flow management activity and more favorable activity mix.
Speaker #1: Finally, in Asia Pacific, or APAC, fourth quarter revenue was 43 million dollars, a decrease of 6 million relative to the third quarter. Primarily reflecting the lower well flow management activity in Indonesia and India, lower well construction revenue in Australia, and offset by higher subsequel axis activity also in Australia.
Speaker #1: Asia Pacific segment EBITDA margin at 16% of revenues decreased approximately 400 basis points from the prior quarter, reflecting decreased activity and mix. Now, I'd like to briefly revisit Expo's capital allocation framework on slide 11.
Sergio Maiworm: Asia Pacific segment EBITDA margin at 16% of revenues decreased approximately 400 basis points from the prior quarter, reflecting decreased activity and mix. Now, I'd like to briefly revisit XPRO's capital allocation framework on slide 11. XPRO's capital allocation framework is designed to maximize long-term value creation by maintaining a disciplined and balanced approach across four equally important capital deployment priorities. Our philosophy is that every dollar of capital must be deployed where it can generate the highest risk-adjusted returns, and as such, each of these four areas continuously competes for capital on an ongoing basis. As a consequence, it may appear that priorities shift, and they are, but only to those that we believe will generate the highest risk-adjusted return. One of our capital priorities is to continue to invest in our business to drive organic growth with superior return profiles.
Sergio Maiworm: Asia Pacific segment EBITDA margin at 16% of revenues decreased approximately 400 basis points from the prior quarter, reflecting decreased activity and mix. Now, I'd like to briefly revisit XPRO's capital allocation framework on Slide 11. XPRO's capital allocation framework is designed to maximize long-term value creation by maintaining a disciplined and balanced approach across four equally important capital deployment priorities. Our philosophy is that every dollar of capital must be deployed where it can generate the highest risk-adjusted returns, and as such, each of these four areas continuously competes for capital on an ongoing basis. As a consequence, it may appear that priorities shift, and they are, but only to those that we believe will generate the highest risk-adjusted return. One of our capital priorities is to continue to invest in our business to drive organic growth with superior return profiles.
Speaker #1: Expo's capital allocation framework is designed to maximize long-term value creation by maintaining a disciplined and balanced approach across four equally important capital deployment priorities.
Speaker #1: Our philosophy is that every dollar of capital must be deployed where it can generate the highest risk-adjusted returns, and as such, each of these four areas continuously competes for capital on an ongoing basis.
Speaker #1: As a consequence, it may appear that priorities shift—and they are—but only to those that we believe will generate the highest risk-adjusted return.
Speaker #1: One of our capital priorities is to continue to invest in our business to drive organic growth with superior return profiles. This includes funding projects and initiatives through CapEx deployment that enhance our core capabilities, improve efficiency, and support technology innovation across our service lines.
Sergio Maiworm: This includes funding projects and initiatives through CapEx deployments that enhance our core capabilities, improve efficiency, and support technology innovation across our service lives. Every organic investment is rigorously evaluated to ensure it meets our standards for superior returns throughout the business cycle. As a reminder, the vast majority of our capital expenditures are geared towards specific projects with known return profiles that meet our standards. I would reiterate, these are not speculative investments. Another area where we can deploy capital is inorganic growth opportunities. We pursue selective, highly accretive mergers and acquisitions that complement our existing capabilities and customer relationships. Our M&A strategy is focused on opportunities that offer clear industrial logic, scalable technologies and synergies, and the potential to expand our presence in attractive markets.
Sergio Maiworm: This includes funding projects and initiatives through CapEx deployments that enhance our core capabilities, improve efficiency, and support technology innovation across our service lives. Every organic investment is rigorously evaluated to ensure it meets our standards for superior returns throughout the business cycle. As a reminder, the vast majority of our capital expenditures are geared towards specific projects with known return profiles that meet our standards. I would reiterate, these are not speculative investments. Another area where we can deploy capital is inorganic growth opportunities. We pursue selective, highly accretive mergers and acquisitions that complement our existing capabilities and customer relationships. Our M&A strategy is focused on opportunities that offer clear industrial logic, scalable technologies and synergies, and the potential to expand our presence in attractive markets.
Speaker #1: Every organic investment is rigorously evaluated to ensure it meets our standards for superior returns throughout the business cycle. As a reminder, the vast majority of our capital expenditures are geared towards specific projects with known return profiles that meet our standards.
Speaker #1: I would reiterate, these are not speculative investments. Another area where we can deploy capital is inorganic growth opportunities. We pursue selective, highly accretive mergers and acquisitions that complement our existing capabilities and customer relationships.
Speaker #1: Our M&A strategy is focused on opportunities that offer clear industrial logic, scalable technologies, and synergies, as well as the potential to expand our presence in attractive markets.
Speaker #1: We apply the same disciplined capital allocation criteria to acquisitions as we do to organic investments, ensuring that only the most compelling opportunities receive funding.
Sergio Maiworm: We apply the same disciplined capital allocation criteria to acquisitions as we do to organic investments, ensuring that only the most compelling opportunities receive funding. The company has a successful track record of executing on this strategy. We're also committed to returning capital to shareholders. Our framework targets the return of at least 1/3 of free cash flow to shareholders annually, primarily through share repurchases. This commitment reflects our confidence in the company's ability to generate sustainable free cash flow and our focus on delivering direct value to our investors, particularly over the long term. During Q4, we were unable to repurchase as many shares as we intended, causing the total percentage of free cash flow return to shareholders for the year to come just short of 32%.
Sergio Maiworm: We apply the same disciplined capital allocation criteria to acquisitions as we do to organic investments, ensuring that only the most compelling opportunities receive funding. The company has a successful track record of executing on this strategy. We're also committed to returning capital to shareholders. Our framework targets the return of at least 1/3 of free cash flow to shareholders annually, primarily through share repurchases. This commitment reflects our confidence in the company's ability to generate sustainable free cash flow and our focus on delivering direct value to our investors, particularly over the long term. During Q4, we were unable to repurchase as many shares as we intended, causing the total percentage of free cash flow return to shareholders for the year to come just short of 32%.
Speaker #1: The company has a successful track record of executing on this strategy. We're also committed to returning capital to shareholders. Our framework targets the return of at least one-third of free cash flow to shareholders annually, primarily through share repurchases.
Speaker #1: This commitment reflects our confidence in the company's ability to generate sustainable free cash flow and our focus on delivering direct value to our investors particularly over the long term.
Speaker #1: During the fourth quarter, we were unable to repurchase as many shares as we intended, causing the total percentage of free cash flow returned to shareholders for the year to come just short of 32%.
Speaker #1: Finally, maintaining a strong fortress balance sheet ensures that we have the financial flexibility and resilience to act on our other capital allocation priorities. Additionally, preserving a strong balance sheet enables us to navigate market cycles investing growth opportunities as they arise and protect the company's long-term stability.
Sergio Maiworm: Finally, maintaining a strong fortress balance sheet ensures that we have the financial flexibility and resilience to act on our other capital allocation priorities. Additionally, preserving a strong balance sheet enables us to navigate market cycles, invest in growth opportunities as they arise, and protect the company's long-term stability. Importantly, these four priorities constitute our capital allocation framework: organic investments, M&A, shareholder returns, and balance sheet strength, and again, are not ranked in a set order of priority. Instead, they're managed dynamically, with each area continuously competing for capital based on the quality of the opportunities available. This disciplined, balanced approach ensures that XPRO remains agile, resilient, and focused on maximizing value for all shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Mike for a few closing comments.
Sergio Maiworm: Finally, maintaining a strong fortress balance sheet ensures that we have the financial flexibility and resilience to act on our other capital allocation priorities. Additionally, preserving a strong balance sheet enables us to navigate market cycles, invest in growth opportunities as they arise, and protect the company's long-term stability. Importantly, these four priorities constitute our capital allocation framework: organic investments, M&A, shareholder returns, and balance sheet strength, and again, are not ranked in a set order of priority. Instead, they're managed dynamically, with each area continuously competing for capital based on the quality of the opportunities available. This disciplined, balanced approach ensures that XPRO remains agile, resilient, and focused on maximizing value for all shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call back to Mike for a few closing comments.
Speaker #1: Importantly, these four priorities constitute our capital allocation framework, organic investments, M&A, shareholder returns, and balance sheet strength, and again, are not ranked in a set order of priority.
Speaker #1: Instead, they're managed dynamically, with each area continuously competing for capital based on the quality of the opportunities available. This disciplined, balanced approach ensures that Expro remains agile, resilient, and focused on maximizing value for all shareholders.
Speaker #1: And with that, I'll turn the call back to Mike for a few closing comments.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Sergio. As we conclude our prepared remarks and before opening for questions, I'd like to conclude with the following comments. I'm excited about what was achieved by Expo's employees in 2025.
Mike Jardon: Thank you, Sergio. As we conclude our prepared remarks, and before opening for questions, I'd like to conclude with the following comments. I'm excited about what was achieved by XPRO's employees in 2025. I'll reiterate, we collectively implemented cost efficiencies as part of our Drive 25 initiative, increased our EBITDA margins, moving closer to our long-term goal, successfully deployed new and innovative technologies, generated a high level of free cash flow, and returned cash to shareholders and improved the company's net cash position. We executed on multiple priorities that Sergio just referred to in our capital allocation framework. Looking ahead, I'm also excited about what the company plans to achieve in 2026, even in a macro environment where we are cautiously optimistic.
Mike Jardon: Thank you, Sergio. As we conclude our prepared remarks, and before opening for questions, I'd like to conclude with the following comments. I'm excited about what was achieved by XPRO's employees in 2025. I'll reiterate, we collectively implemented cost efficiencies as part of our Drive 25 initiative, increased our EBITDA margins, moving closer to our long-term goal, successfully deployed new and innovative technologies, generated a high level of free cash flow, and returned cash to shareholders and improved the company's net cash position. We executed on multiple priorities that Sergio just referred to in our capital allocation framework. Looking ahead, I'm also excited about what the company plans to achieve in 2026, even in a macro environment where we are cautiously optimistic.
Speaker #2: I'll reiterate we collectively implemented cost efficiencies as part of our Drive 25 initiative, increased our EBITDA margins moving closer to our long-term goal, successfully deployed new and innovative technologies, generated a high level of free cash flow, and returned cash to shareholders and improved the company's net cash position.
Speaker #2: We executed on multiple priorities that Sergio just referred to in our capital allocation framework. Looking ahead, I'm also excited about what the company plans to achieve in 2026, even in a macro environment where we are cautiously optimistic.
Speaker #2: We acknowledge a somewhat softer start to the year related to the normal seasonal factors that impact both the industry and Expo. But we expect sequential improvements in the latter quarters especially as we head into 2027 and beyond.
Mike Jardon: We acknowledge a somewhat softer start to the year related to the normal seasonal factors that impact both the industry and XPRO, but we expect sequential improvements in the latter quarters, especially as we head into 2027 and beyond. We do expect to generate improved EBITDA margins and free cash flow in 2026, and anticipate executing again across our strategic pillars. I remain confident in XPRO's resilience and ability to continue to deliver on operational and financial performance. Finally, we thank our employees, our customers, and our shareholders for their continued support, and look forward to building on our momentum in the quarters and years ahead. With that, we can open up the call for questions.
Mike Jardon: We acknowledge a somewhat softer start to the year related to the normal seasonal factors that impact both the industry and XPRO, but we expect sequential improvements in the latter quarters, especially as we head into 2027 and beyond. We do expect to generate improved EBITDA margins and free cash flow in 2026, and anticipate executing again across our strategic pillars. I remain confident in XPRO's resilience and ability to continue to deliver on operational and financial performance. Finally, we thank our employees, our customers, and our shareholders for their continued support, and look forward to building on our momentum in the quarters and years ahead. With that, we can open up the call for questions.
Speaker #2: We do expect to generate improved EBITDA margins and free cash flow in 2026 and anticipate executing again across our strategic pillars. I remain confident in Expo's resilience and ability to continue to deliver on operational and financial performance.
Speaker #2: Finally, we thank our employees, our customers, and our shareholders for their continued support and look forward to building on our momentum in the quarters and years ahead.
Speaker #2: With that, we can open up the call for questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. We now have to open the lines for the Q&A. If you'd like to raise a question, please signal now by pressing staff followed by one on your telephone keypad.
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Speaker #3: Atty, your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, guys. Mike, can you talk more about the increase in wallet share comment? It sounded like there are some inherent cross-selling opportunities. What exactly are those opportunities, and is this a little bit more geographical expansion?
Atidrip Modak: Hey, good morning, guys. Mike, can you talk more about the increase in wallet share comment? It sounded like there's some inherent cross-selling opportunities. What exactly are those opportunities? And is this a little bit more geographical expansion? Any color you can provide around it?
Atidrip Modak: Hey, good morning, guys. Mike, can you talk more about the increase in wallet share comment? It sounded like there's some inherent cross-selling opportunities. What exactly are those opportunities? And is this a little bit more geographical expansion? Any color you can provide around it?
Speaker #4: Any color you can provide around it?
Speaker #2: No, Atty, thanks for joining us and appreciate the question. This really is especially in some of our well construction operations, where we're providing TRS services and we're also providing cementation services.
Mike Jardon: No, Atif, thanks for joining us and appreciate the question. This really is, you know, especially in some of our well construction operations, where we're providing TRS services, and we're also providing cementation services, we're adding additional services in there. You know, some of our CoreTrax technologies is a great example, where we're already on the rig, we're already running TRS operations. We, you know, run our cementation operations, significantly reduces the waiting on cement cure time, and we use the same personnel that are out there running our TRS services. So it's, when I say expanding the wallet, it's, we're already on the rig, we're already providing services.
Mike Jardon: No, Atif, thanks for joining us and appreciate the question. This really is, you know, especially in some of our well construction operations, where we're providing TRS services, and we're also providing cementation services, we're adding additional services in there. You know, some of our CoreTrax technologies is a great example, where we're already on the rig, we're already running TRS operations. We, you know, run our cementation operations, significantly reduces the waiting on cement cure time, and we use the same personnel that are out there running our TRS services. So it's, when I say expanding the wallet, it's, we're already on the rig, we're already providing services.
Speaker #2: We're adding additional services in there. Some of our CURE technologies is a great example where we're already on the rig. We're already running TRS operations.
Speaker #2: We run our cementation operations, which significantly reduces the waiting on cement cure time. And we use the same personnel that are out there running our TRS services.
Speaker #2: So when I say expanding the wallet, it's we're already on the rig. We're already providing services. We provide some incremental services or products to our customers.
Mike Jardon: We provide some incremental services or products to our customers that help drive efficiency for them, and we're utilizing the same what we call installed base, but really the same personnel on the ground. So it's something that we can do, you know, across geographies. We're doing similar things in Well Construction. We're also doing that across our Well Flow Management product lines as well.
Mike Jardon: We provide some incremental services or products to our customers that help drive efficiency for them, and we're utilizing the same what we call installed base, but really the same personnel on the ground. So it's something that we can do, you know, across geographies. We're doing similar things in Well Construction. We're also doing that across our Well Flow Management product lines as well.
Speaker #2: They help drive efficiency for them. And we're utilizing the same what we call installed base, but really the same personnel on the ground. So it's something that we can do across geographies.
Speaker #2: We're doing similar things in well construction. We're also doing that across our well flow management product lines as well.
Speaker #4: That's very helpful. And then as we think about the EBITDA range you've provided for '26, what are the percent takes that you're focused on, whether it's activity-wise or idiosyncratic for you?
Atidrip Modak: That's very helpful. And then, as you think about the EBITDA range you provided for 2026, what are the puts and takes that you are focused on, whether it's activity-wise or idiosyncratic for you, as you think about the, you know, the bottom and the high end of the range?
Atidrip Modak: That's very helpful. And then, as you think about the EBITDA range you provided for 2026, what are the puts and takes that you are focused on, whether it's activity-wise or idiosyncratic for you, as you think about the, you know, the bottom and the high end of the range?
Speaker #4: As you think about the bottom and the high end of the range.
Speaker #2: Yeah. I mean, I guess how I would frame it out, Atty, is the market's going to do what the market's going to do this year.
Mike Jardon: ... Yeah, I mean, I guess how I would frame it out, Atif, is, you know, the market's gonna do what the market's gonna do this year. We're gonna maintain our market share. We're gonna expand our customer wallet. You know, exactly how many offshore floating assets are gonna be operational, you know, in Q3 and Q4, that can always ebb and flow. We're just really focused on, laser-focused on making sure that even if we're in a flattish climate, we can still expand our margins. And that's really kind of what our guidance is framed up to give. It's not that we look at a massive step up in activity in the second half of the year. It's more around the visibility we see today, and that's why we've given the guidance range that we have in there.
Mike Jardon: ... Yeah, I mean, I guess how I would frame it out, Atif, is, you know, the market's gonna do what the market's gonna do this year. We're gonna maintain our market share. We're gonna expand our customer wallet. You know, exactly how many offshore floating assets are gonna be operational, you know, in Q3 and Q4, that can always ebb and flow. We're just really focused on, laser-focused on making sure that even if we're in a flattish climate, we can still expand our margins. And that's really kind of what our guidance is framed up to give. It's not that we look at a massive step up in activity in the second half of the year. It's more around the visibility we see today, and that's why we've given the guidance range that we have in there.
Speaker #2: We're going to maintain our market share. We're going to expand our customer wallet. Exactly how many offshore floating assets are going to be operational in Q3 and Q4, that can always ebb and flow.
Speaker #2: We're just really focused on laser-focused on making sure that even if we're in a flattish climate, we can still expand our margins. And that's really kind of what our guidance is, is framed up to give.
Speaker #2: It’s not that we look at a massive step-up in activity in the second half of the year. It’s more around the visibility we see today, and that’s why we’ve given the guidance range that we have in there.
Speaker #4: Got it. Appreciate that.
Colby Sasso: Got it. Appreciate that.
Atidrip Modak: Got it. Appreciate that.
Speaker #3: Great. Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Eddie Kim from Barclays. Eddie, your line is now open.
Operator: Great. Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Eddie Kim, from Barclays. Eddie, your line is now open.
Operator: Great. Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Eddie Kim, from Barclays. Eddie, your line is now open.
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Just staying on the full-year 2026 guidance—EBITDA at $365 million at the midpoint—which reflects a modest improvement year on year.
Eddie Kim: Good morning. Just staying on the full year 2026 guidance, EBITDA, $365 million at the midpoint, which reflects a modest improvement year-over-year. Just wanted to understand better understand the market assumptions behind that guide. Is the guidance sort of, I guess, valid at Brent's in this kind of $60 to 70 dollar range for the year? And could there even be further upside as if commodity prices firm up from here? And on the flip side, if market conditions were to deteriorate, is there an oil price at which you expect operators might maybe push back or delay some programs? I know there was a lot in there, but any color that would be.
Eddie Kim: Good morning. Just staying on the full year 2026 guidance, EBITDA, $365 million at the midpoint, which reflects a modest improvement year-over-year. Just wanted to understand better understand the market assumptions behind that guide. Is the guidance sort of, I guess, valid at Brent's in this kind of $60 to 70 dollar range for the year? And could there even be further upside as if commodity prices firm up from here? And on the flip side, if market conditions were to deteriorate, is there an oil price at which you expect operators might maybe push back or delay some programs? I know there was a lot in there, but any color that would be.
Speaker #5: Just wanted to understand better understand the market assumptions behind that guide. Is the guidance sort of, I guess, valid at Brent in this kind of '60 to '70 dollar range for the year?
Speaker #5: And could there even be further upside if commodity prices firm up from here? And on the flip side, if market conditions were to deteriorate, is there an oil price at which you expect operators might maybe push back or delay some programs?
Speaker #5: I know there was a lot in there, but any color that would be good.
Speaker #2: Sure. No, Eddie, thanks for joining us. And really, really good question. It's one that we talk a lot about internally. I guess how I would try to frame it up for you is our activity set is really based on what we're seeing with current commodity prices.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, Eddie, thanks for joining us, and, and really, really good question. It's one that we talk a lot about internally. I, I guess how I would try to frame it up for you is, you know, our activity set is really based on what we're seeing with current commodity prices. I still think we've got a range here where even if commodity prices were to be compressed a little bit more, I don't know that... You know, we're so active in offshore deep water projects that have a long investment cycle, and they're-- You know, our customers are not gonna throttle that down significantly, you know, here in the short term. I do think that, you know, we are-- we're cautious on how we're viewing the total activity set this year.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, Eddie, thanks for joining us, and, and really, really good question. It's one that we talk a lot about internally. I, I guess how I would try to frame it up for you is, you know, our activity set is really based on what we're seeing with current commodity prices. I still think we've got a range here where even if commodity prices were to be compressed a little bit more, I don't know that... You know, we're so active in offshore deep water projects that have a long investment cycle, and they're-- You know, our customers are not gonna throttle that down significantly, you know, here in the short term. I do think that, you know, we are-- we're cautious on how we're viewing the total activity set this year.
Speaker #2: I still think we've got a range here where even if commodity prices were to be compressed a little bit more, I don't know that we're so active in offshore deep water projects that have a long investment cycle.
Speaker #2: And our customers are not going to throttle that down significantly here in the short term. I do think that we are—we're cautious on how we're viewing the total activity set this year.
Speaker #2: I do, quite frankly, think that there could be some potential things that are going to ramp up more. We've heard some positive commentary from the drilling guys and those kind of things.
Mike Jardon: I do, quite frankly, think that there could be some potential things are gonna ramp up more. You know, we've heard some positive commentary from the drilling guys and those kind of things. It really depends on how does some of that activity translate into turning to the right, so to speak. So I think there could be some upside in the back end of the year. We're not gonna rely on that. We're gonna get our fair share. We're gonna, you know, stay focused on technology rollouts and those kind of things. We'll kinda lose that, we'll kinda look at that as upside, potentially, I guess, is how I'd frame it up.
Mike Jardon: I do, quite frankly, think that there could be some potential things are gonna ramp up more. You know, we've heard some positive commentary from the drilling guys and those kind of things. It really depends on how does some of that activity translate into turning to the right, so to speak. So I think there could be some upside in the back end of the year. We're not gonna rely on that. We're gonna get our fair share. We're gonna, you know, stay focused on technology rollouts and those kind of things. We'll kinda lose that, we'll kinda look at that as upside, potentially, I guess, is how I'd frame it up.
Speaker #2: It really depends on how some of that activity translates into turning to the right, so to speak. So, I think there could be some upside in the back end of the year.
Speaker #2: We're not going to rely on that. We're going to get our fair share. We're going to stay focused on technology, rollouts, and those kind of things.
Speaker #2: We'll kind of lose that we'll kind of look at that as upside potentially, I guess, is how I would frame it up. But we are laser-focused on even if we're in a situation in 2026, and I hope I'm wrong, but even if we're in a situation in 2026 where we're in a flattish revenue climate to even slightly down, meaning the market is flat to slightly down, we're still going to be able to expand our margins, modestly, and we're going to expand our cash generation as well.
Mike Jardon: But we are laser-focused on, even if we're in a situation in 2026, and I hope I'm wrong, but even if we're in a situation in 2026 where we're in a flattish revenue climate to even slightly down, meaning the market is flat to slightly down, we're still gonna be able to expand our margins modestly, and we're gonna expand our cash generation, as well. That's what we're really focused on.
Mike Jardon: But we are laser-focused on, even if we're in a situation in 2026, and I hope I'm wrong, but even if we're in a situation in 2026 where we're in a flattish revenue climate to even slightly down, meaning the market is flat to slightly down, we're still gonna be able to expand our margins modestly, and we're gonna expand our cash generation, as well. That's what we're really focused on.
Speaker #2: That's what we're really focused on.
Speaker #3: Got it. Got it. That's very helpful color. Thank you. And just wanted to touch on the offshore activity inflection. As you mentioned, there's kind of growing maybe consensus or optimism about inactivity inflection back half of this year into 2027.
Eddie Kim: Got it. Got it. That's, that's very helpful color. Thank you. Just wanted to touch on the offshore activity inflection. As you mentioned, there's kind of growing maybe consensus or optimism about an activity inflection back half of this year into 2027. Just from a regional perspective, could you talk about which regions you expect will sort of drive the recovery and which you expect will remain flattish or maybe take longer to ramp up?
Eddie Kim: Got it. Got it. That's, that's very helpful color. Thank you. Just wanted to touch on the offshore activity inflection. As you mentioned, there's kind of growing maybe consensus or optimism about an activity inflection back half of this year into 2027. Just from a regional perspective, could you talk about which regions you expect will sort of drive the recovery and which you expect will remain flattish or maybe take longer to ramp up?
Speaker #3: Just from a regional perspective, could you talk about which regions you expect will sort of drive the recovery and which you expect will remain flattish or maybe take longer to ramp up?
Speaker #2: Sure. No, so I think one of the and this is something we've been consistent about talking about for a number of quarters. I think the subsea tree outlook has continued to be very positive and very strong and very robust.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, it's-- So I think one of the... And this is something we've been consistent about talking about for a number of quarters. I think the, I think the Subsea Tree outlook has continued to be very positive and very strong and very robust. You look at the order backlog that some of our peers are adding in, that's been quite positive. That's a good leading indicator of what's to come. But those are things, when they add backlog today, they're not, you know, those aren't trees that are gonna be installed tomorrow. Those are trees that are gonna be installed 9, 12, 18 months down the road. So I think that's been a good set of breadcrumbs that's been laid out there, and that's one of the reasons why, you know, we've been consistent.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, it's-- So I think one of the... And this is something we've been consistent about talking about for a number of quarters. I think the, I think the Subsea Tree outlook has continued to be very positive and very strong and very robust. You look at the order backlog that some of our peers are adding in, that's been quite positive. That's a good leading indicator of what's to come. But those are things, when they add backlog today, they're not, you know, those aren't trees that are gonna be installed tomorrow. Those are trees that are gonna be installed 9, 12, 18 months down the road. So I think that's been a good set of breadcrumbs that's been laid out there, and that's one of the reasons why, you know, we've been consistent.
Speaker #2: You look at the order backlog that some of our peers are adding in, that's been quite positive. That's a good leading indicator of what's to come.
Speaker #2: But those are things when they add backlog today, they're not those aren't trees that are going to be installed tomorrow. Those are trees that are going to be installed 9, 12, 18 months down the road.
Speaker #2: So I think that's been a good set of breadcrumbs that's been laid out there. And that's one of the reasons why we've been consistent.
Speaker #2: We think the second half of this year is more robust, especially going into 2027. And I think you're going to see this the US Gulf is probably going to be flattish here in 2026.
Mike Jardon: We think the second half of this year is more robust, especially going into 2027. And I think you're gonna see this, you know, the US Gulf is probably gonna be flattish year in 2026. I think good potential as we go into 2027 for some expanded investment. South America is gonna be strong. West Africa is always the one that it's gonna take a little bit more time to ramp up. But that's the one that will really kinda help start to move the needle when that happens. So I think West Africa, in particular, is why we're gonna start to see the 2027 beyond. That's when we're gonna start to see more of that real inflection point. And those are bigger projects. Those are, you know, those are multi-rig campaigns.
Mike Jardon: We think the second half of this year is more robust, especially going into 2027. And I think you're gonna see this, you know, the US Gulf is probably gonna be flattish year in 2026. I think good potential as we go into 2027 for some expanded investment. South America is gonna be strong. West Africa is always the one that it's gonna take a little bit more time to ramp up. But that's the one that will really kinda help start to move the needle when that happens. So I think West Africa, in particular, is why we're gonna start to see the 2027 beyond. That's when we're gonna start to see more of that real inflection point. And those are bigger projects. Those are, you know, those are multi-rig campaigns.
Speaker #2: I think good potential as we go into 2027 for some expanded investment. South America is going to be strong. West Africa is always the one that it's going to take a little bit more time to ramp up.
Speaker #2: But that's the one that will really kind of help start to move the needle when that happens. So I think West Africa in particular is why we're going to start to see the '27 and beyond.
Speaker #2: That's when we're going to start to see more of that real inflection point. And those are bigger projects. Those are multi-rig campaigns. Those are significant drilling and completion drill and complete operations.
Mike Jardon: Those are, you know, significant drilling and completion operations.
Mike Jardon: Those are, you know, significant drilling and completion operations.
Speaker #3: Right. Right. Got it. Great. Thanks for all that color. I'll turn it back.
Eddie Kim: Right. Right. Got it. Great. Thanks for all that color. I'll turn it back.
Eddie Kim: Right. Right. Got it. Great. Thanks for all that color. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it.
Mike Jardon: Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it.
Mike Jardon: Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. As a reminder, if you would like to raise a question, please signal now by pressing star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad.
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Speaker #3: Our next question comes from Colby Sasso from Daniel Energy Partners. Colby, your line is now open.
Speaker #5: Hi. Hello. I just wanted to ask given the current administration has been favorable to pushing deals through, we've had other meaningful deals announced in the offshore space a few weeks ago.
Colby Sasso: Hi. Hello. I just wanted to ask, given the current administration has been favorable to pushing deals through, we've had other meaningful deals announced in the offshore space a few weeks ago. I'm curious, seeing the increased transactions go through, has that changed your strategy at all?... Or maybe could you update on the surrounding thoughts, given M&A that you've done, and they haven't done anything in a while?
Colby Sasso: Hi. Hello. I just wanted to ask, given the current administration has been favorable to pushing deals through, we've had other meaningful deals announced in the offshore space a few weeks ago. I'm curious, seeing the increased transactions go through, has that changed your strategy at all?... Or maybe could you update on the surrounding thoughts, given M&A that you've done, and they haven't done anything in a while?
Speaker #5: I'm curious, seeing the increased transactions go through, has that changed your strategy at all? Or maybe could you update on the surrounding thoughts, given M&A that you've done and that you haven't done anything in a while?
Speaker #2: Sure. No, Colby, it's a great question. I mean, I think it's—yes, the current administration is probably more amenable to M&A and those types of things.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, Colby, it's a great question. I mean, I think it's yes, the current administration is probably more amenable to M&A and those type things. Quite frankly, the things that we have an appetite in, and we have an interest in, aren't, you know, they're gonna have a global nature, they're gonna have a global presence, and we don't have a significant concern around our ability to, for those that go through antitrust or those kind of things. So for us, as a company, the type of things we're interested in and looking at, aren't really being influenced heavily by whether the administration is more or less amenable.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, Colby, it's a great question. I mean, I think it's yes, the current administration is probably more amenable to M&A and those type things. Quite frankly, the things that we have an appetite in, and we have an interest in, aren't, you know, they're gonna have a global nature, they're gonna have a global presence, and we don't have a significant concern around our ability to, for those that go through antitrust or those kind of things. So for us, as a company, the type of things we're interested in and looking at, aren't really being influenced heavily by whether the administration is more or less amenable.
Speaker #2: Quite frankly, the things that we have an appetite in and we have an interest in, aren’t—they're going to have a global nature.
Speaker #2: They're going to have a global presence. And we don't have a significant concern around our ability to for those to go through antitrust or those kind of things.
Speaker #2: So for us as a company, the type of things we're interested in and looking at aren't really being influenced heavily by whether the administration is more or less amenable.
Speaker #2: I think they're continues to be they're still over the last five, six years, there still has only been a handful of consolidations of size in the services space, whether that was hours back in 2021 or what Patterson has done.
Mike Jardon: I think there continues to be, you know, there's still over the last, you know, five, six years, there still has only been a handful of consolidations, you know, of size in the services space. Whether that was ours back in 2021 or what Patterson has done. You know, it's nice to see the, you know, the rig and the Valaris transaction here. I think that's a good move for the industry. I think we'll continue to see those type of things happen, and we are, you know, working on those kind of things every day of the week, because it really is about helping us become more relevant to our customers. Helping them, you know, more solutions and more efficiencies and those type of things.
Mike Jardon: I think there continues to be, you know, there's still over the last, you know, five, six years, there still has only been a handful of consolidations, you know, of size in the services space. Whether that was ours back in 2021 or what Patterson has done. You know, it's nice to see the, you know, the rig and the Valaris transaction here. I think that's a good move for the industry. I think we'll continue to see those type of things happen, and we are, you know, working on those kind of things every day of the week, because it really is about helping us become more relevant to our customers. Helping them, you know, more solutions and more efficiencies and those type of things.
Speaker #2: It was nice to see the rig and the Valaris transaction here. I think that's a good move for the industry. I think we'll continue to see those type of things happen.
Speaker #2: And we are working on those kinds of things every day of the week, because it really is about helping us become more relevant to our customers.
Speaker #2: Helping them more solutions and more efficiencies and those types of things. And we're absolutely convinced if we're more relevant to our customers that we're going to become more relevant to our shareholders as well.
Mike Jardon: We're absolutely convinced if we're more relevant to our customers, that we're gonna become more relevant to our shareholders as well. So it fits in, but it's something we continue to work really, really hard on, because we have a great platform. We're offshore, we're international, you know, we have touch points with our customers all the way from exploration through appraisal, through development, through production, all through P&A. So we have a lot of flexibility and latitude on a type of things that would fit into our portfolio and that we could, you know, help drive value with.
Mike Jardon: We're absolutely convinced if we're more relevant to our customers, that we're gonna become more relevant to our shareholders as well. So it fits in, but it's something we continue to work really, really hard on, because we have a great platform. We're offshore, we're international, you know, we have touch points with our customers all the way from exploration through appraisal, through development, through production, all through P&A. So we have a lot of flexibility and latitude on a type of things that would fit into our portfolio and that we could, you know, help drive value with.
Speaker #2: So it fits in, but it's something we continue to work really, really hard on because we have a great platform. We're offshore. We're international.
Speaker #2: We have touchpoints with our customers. All the way from expiration through appraisal through development through production all through P&A. So we have a lot of flexibility and latitude on a type of things that would fit into our portfolio and that we could help drive value with.
Speaker #5: Thanks for the color. And just another follow-up: one of the themes over the last two quarters of larger operator calls has been increased need for exploration offshore.
Colby Sasso: Thanks for the color. And just another follow-up. One of the themes over the last two quarters of larger operator calls has been increased need for exploration offshore. Any thoughts on what you're seeing in the areas geographically that could surprise to the upside over the next couple of years? And how do you see yourself taking advantage of what you're seeing and hearing?
Colby Sasso: Thanks for the color. And just another follow-up. One of the themes over the last two quarters of larger operator calls has been increased need for exploration offshore. Any thoughts on what you're seeing in the areas geographically that could surprise to the upside over the next couple of years? And how do you see yourself taking advantage of what you're seeing and hearing?
Speaker #5: Any thoughts on what you're seeing in the areas geographically that could surprise to the upside over the next couple of years? And how do you see yourself taking advantage of what you're seeing and hearing?
Speaker #2: No, Colby, it's a great question. It's a really perceptive question, so kudos to you for picking up on that. Our customers—yes, we're having more and more expiration project discussions.
Mike Jardon: No, Colby, it's a great question, and it's a really perceptive question, so kudos to you for picking up on that. You know, at our customers, yes, we're having more and more exploration project discussions. Part of that's because they need to add more and more into their portfolio for future, you know, future production and future reserves. We provide a lot of services in the exploration activity set. So whether it's well construction or it's well flow management, when we start flowing these wells back to evaluate the reservoirs, or it's being able to help provide the connectivity in a subsea application from the rig to the sea floor. So it's a great opportunity for us.
Mike Jardon: No, Colby, it's a great question, and it's a really perceptive question, so kudos to you for picking up on that. You know, at our customers, yes, we're having more and more exploration project discussions. Part of that's because they need to add more and more into their portfolio for future, you know, future production and future reserves. We provide a lot of services in the exploration activity set. So whether it's well construction or it's well flow management, when we start flowing these wells back to evaluate the reservoirs, or it's being able to help provide the connectivity in a subsea application from the rig to the sea floor. So it's a great opportunity for us.
Speaker #2: Part of that's because they need to add more and more into their portfolio for future production and future reserves. We provide a lot of services in the expiration activity set.
Speaker #2: So, whether it's well construction, or it's well flow management when we start flowing these wells back to evaluate the reservoirs, or it's being able to help provide the connectivity in a subsea application from the rig to the seafloor.
Speaker #2: So it's a great opportunity for us. We play a lot of those kind of services and I think as we see more and more of that translate into activity, I think we'll continue to see more expiration opportunities.
Mike Jardon: We play a lot of those kind of services, and I think as we see more and more of that translate into activity, I think we'll continue to see more exploration opportunities, and that means more exploration revenue and dollars for us. So it's we've been really over the course of the last, really since 2012, there hasn't been a lot of meaningful exploration activity going on globally. So I'm excited to see that potential. We'll see how much of it translates into 2026. I think more of it, we're gonna see in 2027.
Mike Jardon: We play a lot of those kind of services, and I think as we see more and more of that translate into activity, I think we'll continue to see more exploration opportunities, and that means more exploration revenue and dollars for us. So it's we've been really over the course of the last, really since 2012, there hasn't been a lot of meaningful exploration activity going on globally. So I'm excited to see that potential. We'll see how much of it translates into 2026. I think more of it, we're gonna see in 2027.
Speaker #2: And that means more expiration revenue in dollars for us. So we've been, really over the course of the last—really since 2012, there hasn't been a lot of meaningful expiration activity going on globally.
Speaker #2: So I'm excited to see that potential. We'll see how much of it translates into 2026. I think more of it we're going to see in 2027.
Speaker #5: Thank you so much for the color. I'll turn it back.
Colby Sasso: Thank you so much for the color. I'll turn it back.
Colby Sasso: Thank you so much for the color. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Colby.
Mike Jardon: Thanks, Colby.
Mike Jardon: Thanks, Colby.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Derek Boteza from Piper Sandler. Derek, your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Derek Bodosa from Piper Sandler. Derek, the line's now open.
Operator: Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Derek Bodosa from Piper Sandler. Derek, the line's now open.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning, guys. Just want to go back to the conversations around the 2026 guidance. So just going up to the top line, revenue here, I know the prior guide was for '26 to be flattened ed down.
Derek Podhaski: Hey, good morning, guys. Just wanna go back to the conversations around the 2026 guidance. So going up to the top line revenue here, I know the prior guide was for 2026 to be flat to down. Now the new guidance is flat to up. So I was hoping you could help us understand some of the puts and takes there, you know, why your outlook has improved, you know, maybe from a regional standpoint, and then just thinking about how the guidance ties to the implied sequential growth on the top line, Q2, Q3, Q4, because it looks pretty meaningful.
Derek Podhaisky: Hey, good morning, guys. Just wanna go back to the conversations around the 2026 guidance. So going up to the top line revenue here, I know the prior guide was for 2026 to be flat to down. Now the new guidance is flat to up. So I was hoping you could help us understand some of the puts and takes there, you know, why your outlook has improved, you know, maybe from a regional standpoint, and then just thinking about how the guidance ties to the implied sequential growth on the top line, Q2, Q3, Q4, because it looks pretty meaningful.
Speaker #6: Now the new guidance is flattened up. So I was hoping you could help us understand some of the puts and takes there, why your outlook has improved, maybe from a regional standpoint.
Speaker #6: And then just thinking about how the guidance ties to the implied sequential growth on the top line, second, third, fourth quarter, because it looks pretty meaningful.
Speaker #2: Yeah, and Derek, thanks for joining. I guess what I would say—we’re more, and I kind of alluded to it in one of the earlier questions.
Mike Jardon: Yeah, and Derek, thanks, thanks for joining. I guess what I would. You know, we're more, and I kind of alluded to it in one of the earlier questions, we are laser-focused on if the market grows 2% or 5% or 10%, we will absolutely get our fair share of projects. We have a very high bid-win rate. We have great customer relationships. So what the market does, we're gonna benefit from that as well as anybody else.
Mike Jardon: Yeah, and Derek, thanks, thanks for joining. I guess what I would. You know, we're more, and I kind of alluded to it in one of the earlier questions, we are laser-focused on if the market grows 2% or 5% or 10%, we will absolutely get our fair share of projects. We have a very high bid-win rate. We have great customer relationships. So what the market does, we're gonna benefit from that as well as anybody else.
Speaker #2: We are laser-focused on if the market grows, 2% or 5% or 10%, we will absolutely get our fair share of projects. We have a very high bid-win rate.
Speaker #2: We have great customer relationships. So, what the market does—we're going to benefit from that as well as anybody else. And I don't want to say we don't have any control over that, but the timing of somebody adding a rig in Angola, or the timing of additional rigs and activity in the U.S. Gulf—we're not going to have an influence over that. But we're going to be able to provide those services.
Mike Jardon: And I don't wanna say we don't have any control over that, but we, the timing of, you know, somebody adding a rig in Angola or the timing of additional rigs and activity in the US Gulf, we're not gonna have an influence over that, but we're gonna be able to provide those services. So it's not so much that our view has become more positive or more negative. What I have the organization focused on is execution, service delivery, QHSE performance, continuing to win our fair share of activity, and fundamentally driving more efficient operations. You know, we expanded margins in 2025, and we expanded cash flow generation significantly in 2025 because we were focused on the things we could control. And we're gonna do that again in 2026.
Mike Jardon: And I don't wanna say we don't have any control over that, but we, the timing of, you know, somebody adding a rig in Angola or the timing of additional rigs and activity in the US Gulf, we're not gonna have an influence over that, but we're gonna be able to provide those services. So it's not so much that our view has become more positive or more negative. What I have the organization focused on is execution, service delivery, QHSE performance, continuing to win our fair share of activity, and fundamentally driving more efficient operations. You know, we expanded margins in 2025, and we expanded cash flow generation significantly in 2025 because we were focused on the things we could control. And we're gonna do that again in 2026.
Speaker #2: So, it's not so much that our view has become more positive or more negative. What I have the organization focused on is execution, service delivery, HSE performance, continuing to win our fair share of activity, and fundamentally driving more efficient operations.
Speaker #2: We expanded margins in 2025, and we expanded cash flow generation significantly in 2025 because we were focused on the things we could control. And we're going to do that again in 2026.
Speaker #2: And even if the market is flat to slightly down, that's not to say I think it's going to be slightly down. My message is, even if the market's under a little bit more pressure, we will still expand our margins and expand our cash flow generation.
Mike Jardon: And even if the market is flat to slightly down, that's not to say I think it's gonna be slightly down. My message is, even if the market's under a little bit more pressure, we will still expand our margins and expand our cash flow generation. So that's, I realize that's a little bit of a subtle difference, but it's much more around... I want my team and myself to focus on what we can control, and if the market grows, that's fantastic. We'll have some upside potential to what our forecast looks like going forward.
Mike Jardon: And even if the market is flat to slightly down, that's not to say I think it's gonna be slightly down. My message is, even if the market's under a little bit more pressure, we will still expand our margins and expand our cash flow generation. So that's, I realize that's a little bit of a subtle difference, but it's much more around... I want my team and myself to focus on what we can control, and if the market grows, that's fantastic. We'll have some upside potential to what our forecast looks like going forward.
Speaker #2: So, I realize that's a little bit of a subtle difference, but it's much more around—I want my team and myself to focus on what we can control, and if the market grows, that's fantastic.
Speaker #2: We'll have some upside potential to what our forecast looks like going forward.
Speaker #6: Yeah. No, that makes sense. And I appreciate the call. Maybe just to follow up there, could you maybe break down the geographies? Where do you see maybe the points of strength as we work second, third, fourth quarter?
Derek Podhaski: Yeah, no, that makes sense, and appreciate the call. Maybe just to follow up there, could you maybe break down the geographies? Where do you see maybe the points of strength as we work, you know, Q2, Q3, Q4? You know, maybe you can rank order them, just your geographic regions.
Derek Podhaisky: Yeah, no, that makes sense, and appreciate the call. Maybe just to follow up there, could you maybe break down the geographies? Where do you see maybe the points of strength as we work, you know, Q2, Q3, Q4? You know, maybe you can rank order them, just your geographic regions.
Speaker #6: Maybe you can rank order them just so your geographic regions.
Speaker #2: Sure. So, I do think that for us, Middle East, North Africa is going to be solid this year. We're going to have some projects that will deliver in the fourth quarter that we're already actively engaged in.
Mike Jardon: Sure. So I do think that, for us, you know, Middle East, North Africa is gonna be solid this year. We're gonna have some projects that will deliver in Q4, that we're already actively engaged in. So I think that's gonna give us some, that's part of the reason why we see and anticipate a solid Q4. You know, South America, we've got some similar just projects and activity that's gonna happen there as well. You know, I suspect that when we do a look back on 2026, I would be very surprised if there's not some, you know, some surprise to the upside in the US Gulf.
Mike Jardon: Sure. So I do think that, for us, you know, Middle East, North Africa is gonna be solid this year. We're gonna have some projects that will deliver in Q4, that we're already actively engaged in. So I think that's gonna give us some, that's part of the reason why we see and anticipate a solid Q4. You know, South America, we've got some similar just projects and activity that's gonna happen there as well. You know, I suspect that when we do a look back on 2026, I would be very surprised if there's not some, you know, some surprise to the upside in the US Gulf.
Speaker #2: So I think that's going to give us some that's part of the reason why we see anticipate a solid Q4. South America, we've got some similar just projects and activity that's going to happen there as well.
Speaker #2: I suspect that when we do a look back on 2026, I would be very surprised if there's not some surprise to the upside in the US Gulf.
Speaker #2: I think for operators, access to those reservoirs, the carbon-advantage nature of it, the ability to get access to rigs that are working for one operator today, and they come to another operator tomorrow.
Mike Jardon: I think, you know, for operators, access to those reservoirs, the carbon advantage nature of it, the ability to get access to rigs that are working for, you know, one operator today, and they come to another operator tomorrow. So I think that's gonna be another one that could be, you know, strong, strong potential. I would probably put, Asia Pacific is continuing to be, just because of the cycle time and some of the, where they're at in the sequence of activity in places like Australia, I think that's gonna be more of a 2027 phenomenon. I kind of view Asia Pacific in that same kind of context. It's gonna be a little bit more, it's gonna be a little bit more of a laggard than the others.
Mike Jardon: I think, you know, for operators, access to those reservoirs, the carbon advantage nature of it, the ability to get access to rigs that are working for, you know, one operator today, and they come to another operator tomorrow. So I think that's gonna be another one that could be, you know, strong, strong potential. I would probably put, Asia Pacific is continuing to be, just because of the cycle time and some of the, where they're at in the sequence of activity in places like Australia, I think that's gonna be more of a 2027 phenomenon. I kind of view Asia Pacific in that same kind of context. It's gonna be a little bit more, it's gonna be a little bit more of a laggard than the others.
Speaker #2: So, I think that's going to be another one. It could be strong potential. I would probably put Asia Pacific as continuing to be, just because of the cycle time and where they're at in the sequence of activity in places like Australia. I think that's going to be more of a 2027 phenomenon.
Speaker #2: I kind of view Asia Pacific in that same kind of context. It's going to be a little bit more it's going to be a little bit more of a laggard than the others.
Speaker #2: And then West Africa is one in which I think, by the time we're talking in 2027, it's going to be quite robust, and it's really, for me, the transition of: does that start to happen in the third quarter of 2026, or the middle of the fourth quarter, or the end of the fourth quarter?
Mike Jardon: Then, you know, West Africa is one in which, I think by the time we're talking in 2027, it's gonna be quite robust, and it's really, for me, it's the transition of, does that start to happen in, you know, Q3 of 2026 or the middle of Q4, or the end of Q4? I think that's just a little bit more of a timing, for when they take delivery of rigs and when they really kind of start, solid drilling and completions activity.
Mike Jardon: Then, you know, West Africa is one in which, I think by the time we're talking in 2027, it's gonna be quite robust, and it's really, for me, it's the transition of, does that start to happen in, you know, Q3 of 2026 or the middle of Q4, or the end of Q4? I think that's just a little bit more of a timing, for when they take delivery of rigs and when they really kind of start, solid drilling and completions activity.
Speaker #2: I think that's just a little bit more of a timing for when they take delivery of rigs and when they really kind of start solid drilling and completions activity.
Speaker #6: Got it. Very helpful. I'll turn it back.
Derek Podhaski: Got it. Very helpful. I'll turn it back.
Derek Podhaisky: Got it. Very helpful. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Derek. Appreciate your participating.
Mike Jardon: Thanks, Derek. Appreciate you participating.
Mike Jardon: Thanks, Derek. Appreciate you participating.
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Speaker #3: Our next question comes from Josh Jane from Daniel Energy Partners. Josh, your line is now open.
Speaker #7: Thanks. Good morning. I apologize if you covered this earlier. I just wanted to hit on pricing quickly. So we've been in this period, I guess, over the last 24 months where we saw a pretty sharp acceleration in rig rates.
Josh Jayne: Thanks, good morning. I apologize if you covered this earlier. I just wanted to hit on pricing quickly. So we've been in this period, I guess, over the last 24 months, where we saw a pretty sharp acceleration in rig rates, and then things have come off, but I would say stabilized over the last 6 months. How does potentially a tightening rig rate environment frame your pricing conversations, and, you know, allow customers to see some more value in a lot of the things that you offer? Maybe you could just elaborate that up, on that a little bit.
Josh Jayne: Thanks, good morning. I apologize if you covered this earlier. I just wanted to hit on pricing quickly. So we've been in this period, I guess, over the last 24 months, where we saw a pretty sharp acceleration in rig rates, and then things have come off, but I would say stabilized over the last 6 months. How does potentially a tightening rig rate environment frame your pricing conversations, and, you know, allow customers to see some more value in a lot of the things that you offer? Maybe you could just elaborate that up, on that a little bit.
Speaker #7: And then things have come off, but I would say stabilized over the last six months. How does potentially a tightening rig rate environment frame your pricing conversations?
Speaker #7: And allow customers to see some more value in a lot of the things that you offer? Maybe you could just elaborate on that a little bit.
Speaker #2: Sure. No, Josh, thanks. And I appreciate that. I guess how I would frame it up is, I think it's been a—I think the pricing climate we have had, although we're not getting—we don't have a lot of ability to raise prices right now.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, Josh, thanks, and appreciate that. I guess how I would frame it up is, I think it's been a. I think the pricing climate we have had, although we're not getting, we don't have a lot of ability to raise prices right now, I think there's not been downward pressure on pricing, and I think a lot of it has been, you know, the rig guys and the rig rates and those kind of things, they really kinda, they kinda set the tone, so to speak. They kinda set expectations for customers. And so the fact that those guys have been extremely disciplined, they've demonstrated willingness, they're gonna stack rigs, or they're gonna retire rigs or those kind of things before they're gonna move rates down materially. I think that's been helpful and constructive.
Mike Jardon: Sure. No, Josh, thanks, and appreciate that. I guess how I would frame it up is, I think it's been a. I think the pricing climate we have had, although we're not getting, we don't have a lot of ability to raise prices right now, I think there's not been downward pressure on pricing, and I think a lot of it has been, you know, the rig guys and the rig rates and those kind of things, they really kinda, they kinda set the tone, so to speak. They kinda set expectations for customers. And so the fact that those guys have been extremely disciplined, they've demonstrated willingness, they're gonna stack rigs, or they're gonna retire rigs or those kind of things before they're gonna move rates down materially. I think that's been helpful and constructive.
Speaker #2: I think there's not been downward pressure on pricing. And I think a lot of it has been the rig guys and the rig rates and those kind of things.
Speaker #2: They really kind of they kind of set the tone, so to speak. They kind of set expectations for customers. And so the fact that those guys have been extremely disciplined, they've demonstrated a willingness, they're going to stack rigs, or they're going to retire rigs, or those kind of things before they're going to move rates down materially.
Speaker #2: I think that's been helpful in constructing our prices. Our prices aren't indexed or directly correlated to the rigs, but I think it kind of sets an expectation or a tone within the space and within the sector.
Mike Jardon: You know, our prices aren't indexed or, or directly correlated to the rigs, but I think it kind of sets an expectation or a tone within the space and within the sector. So I think as we're seeing consolidation with those guys, or we're seeing more demand for those rigs, you know, hopefully we go back to a climate which there's actually some discussions around rising rig rates, and I think that kinda conversely starts to set some of the opportunities there as well.
Mike Jardon: You know, our prices aren't indexed or, or directly correlated to the rigs, but I think it kind of sets an expectation or a tone within the space and within the sector. So I think as we're seeing consolidation with those guys, or we're seeing more demand for those rigs, you know, hopefully we go back to a climate which there's actually some discussions around rising rig rates, and I think that kinda conversely starts to set some of the opportunities there as well.
Speaker #2: So I think as we're seeing consolidation with those guys or we're seeing more demand for those rigs, hopefully, we go back to a climate in which there's actually some discussions around rising rig rates and I think that kind of conversely starts to set some of the starts to set some of the opportunities there as well.
Speaker #2: I think the other flip side for us is really around as we expand and roll out new technology, our new technology, especially the ones that help us allow that allow us to expand our wallet share, those typically come at more of a premium because we're generally out there servicing it with the same crews we have who are already running services.
Mike Jardon: I think the other flip side for us is really around as we expand and roll out new technology, our new technology, especially the ones that help us allow-- that allow us to expand our wallet share, those typically come at more of a premium because we're generally out there servicing it with the same crews we have who are already running services. So when you add incremental services, that's what helps us expand the wallet share and also really kind of helps us expand the margins. So, you know, at the same time, we're, we're very disciplined on, we're gonna roll out technology at the right rate. We have pricing expectations, we have value creation expectations. You know, when you, when you run CoreTrax technologies in an offshore application, you save, you know, almost 24 hours of rig time not waiting on cement.
Mike Jardon: I think the other flip side for us is really around as we expand and roll out new technology, our new technology, especially the ones that help us allow-- that allow us to expand our wallet share, those typically come at more of a premium because we're generally out there servicing it with the same crews we have who are already running services. So when you add incremental services, that's what helps us expand the wallet share and also really kind of helps us expand the margins. So, you know, at the same time, we're, we're very disciplined on, we're gonna roll out technology at the right rate. We have pricing expectations, we have value creation expectations. You know, when you, when you run CoreTrax technologies in an offshore application, you save, you know, almost 24 hours of rig time not waiting on cement.
Speaker #2: So, when you add incremental services, that's what helps us expand the wallet share, and also really kind of helps us expand the margins. So, at the same time, we're very disciplined on--we're going to roll out technology at the right rate.
Speaker #2: We have pricing expectations. We have value creation expectations. When you run Cure Technologies in an offshore application, you save almost 24 hours of rig time not waiting on cement.
Speaker #2: We have a value expectation of the time savings. And we're not going to try to increase the technology adoption rate by lowering our prices.
Mike Jardon: We have a value expectation of the time savings, and we're not gonna try to increase the technology adoption rate by lowering our prices. We're gonna stay disciplined. We'll take a longer period of time because over the course of the next couple of years, rig rates will rise, things will tighten, and you get an opportunity to price things only once. So we're gonna be disciplined about that.
Mike Jardon: We have a value expectation of the time savings, and we're not gonna try to increase the technology adoption rate by lowering our prices. We're gonna stay disciplined. We'll take a longer period of time because over the course of the next couple of years, rig rates will rise, things will tighten, and you get an opportunity to price things only once. So we're gonna be disciplined about that.
Speaker #2: We're going to stay disciplined. We'll take a longer period of time, because over the course of the next couple of years, rig rates will rise.
Speaker #2: Things will tighten. And you get an opportunity to price things only once, so we're going to be disciplined about that.
Speaker #3: Thanks for that. And then just one, if I may—and again, if you covered this already, apologies. Understanding that offshore Venezuela is projected to be something massive.
Josh Jayne: Thanks, thanks for that. And then just one, if I may, and again, if you covered this already, apologies. Understanding that, you know, offshore Venezuela isn't, you know, projected to be something massive. I'm just curious, as things calm down geopolitically within that country, how does that potentially open up areas like Colombia or Trinidad or Guyana, just given the geographical proximity to those areas?
Josh Jayne: Thanks, thanks for that. And then just one, if I may, and again, if you covered this already, apologies. Understanding that, you know, offshore Venezuela isn't, you know, projected to be something massive. I'm just curious, as things calm down geopolitically within that country, how does that potentially open up areas like Colombia or Trinidad or Guyana, just given the geographical proximity to those areas?
Speaker #3: I'm just curious, as things calm down geopolitically within that country, how does that potentially open up areas like Colombia or Trinidad or Guyana, just given the geographical proximity to those areas?
Speaker #3: Any thoughts?
Mike Jardon: ... Yeah, no, it's and Josh, thanks, thanks for bringing that up. You know, I, I commented in the prepared remarks earlier that, you know, for myself, having lived and worked in, in Venezuela, my, my kids spent a number of years li growing up and going to school in Venezuela. It, it is I, I'm really, really excited to see the opportunities that are gonna happen in country. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be unique because you're gonna have land opportunities, you're gonna have shallow water, Lake Maracaibo opportunities. You're gonna have potentially deepwater offshore. There's FPSOs, there's infrastructure that already exists with Guyana and what's gonna happen with Suriname. I mean, I, I, I think it's, I think it's tremendously positive.
Mike Jardon: ... Yeah, no, it's and Josh, thanks, thanks for bringing that up. You know, I, I commented in the prepared remarks earlier that, you know, for myself, having lived and worked in, in Venezuela, my, my kids spent a number of years li growing up and going to school in Venezuela. It, it is I, I'm really, really excited to see the opportunities that are gonna happen in country. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be unique because you're gonna have land opportunities, you're gonna have shallow water, Lake Maracaibo opportunities. You're gonna have potentially deepwater offshore. There's FPSOs, there's infrastructure that already exists with Guyana and what's gonna happen with Suriname. I mean, I, I, I think it's, I think it's tremendously positive.
Speaker #2: Yeah. No, and Josh, thanks for bringing that up. I commented in a prepared remarks earlier that for myself, having lived and worked in Venezuela, my kids spent a number of years growing up and going to school in Venezuela.
Speaker #2: I'm really, really excited to see the opportunities that are going to happen in-country. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be unique because you're going to have land opportunities.
Speaker #2: You're going to have shallow water in Lake Maracaibo opportunities. You're going to have potentially deep water offshore. There are FPSOs. There's infrastructure that already exists with Guyana, and what's going to happen with Suriname.
Speaker #2: I mean, I think it's tremendously positive. I'm really excited about it, and especially for us as a company because we're really, really good at the high-technology component—the things that are difficult, producing environments or difficult drilling environments.
Mike Jardon: I'm really excited about it, and especially for us as a company, because we're really, really good at the high technology component, the things that are difficult producing environments or difficult drilling environments. That's where we really can shine. So I'm super excited about it for us. The question is, you know, when's that gonna happen? It's not the question of if there's an opportunity, it's when is it gonna materialize? So no, I think it's fantastic. I think it will really provide, you know, a real growth engine for the industry because of the close linkage between Guyana, Suriname, Trinidad, even into French Guiana. I think it's just it's a great opportunity. So I'm super excited about it, as you can probably pick up.
Mike Jardon: I'm really excited about it, and especially for us as a company, because we're really, really good at the high technology component, the things that are difficult producing environments or difficult drilling environments. That's where we really can shine. So I'm super excited about it for us. The question is, you know, when's that gonna happen? It's not the question of if there's an opportunity, it's when is it gonna materialize? So no, I think it's fantastic. I think it will really provide, you know, a real growth engine for the industry because of the close linkage between Guyana, Suriname, Trinidad, even into French Guiana. I think it's just it's a great opportunity. So I'm super excited about it, as you can probably pick up.
Speaker #2: That's where we really can shine, so I'm super excited about it for us. The question is, when's that going to happen? It's not a question of if.
Speaker #2: There's an opportunity. It's: when is it going to materialize? So, no, I think it's fantastic. I think it will really provide a real growth engine for the industry because of the close linkage between Guyana, Suriname, Trinidad, even into French Guiana.
Speaker #2: I think it's just it's a great opportunity. So I'm super excited about it, as you can probably pick up.
Speaker #3: Understood. Thanks for taking the questions. I appreciate it.
Josh Jayne: Understood. Thanks for taking the questions. I appreciate it.
Josh Jayne: Understood. Thanks for taking the questions. I appreciate it.
Speaker #2: All right. Sounds good. Thanks.
Mike Jardon: All right, sounds good. Thanks.
Mike Jardon: All right, sounds good. Thanks.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. We currently have no further questions, so I'd like to hand back to the management team for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you very much. We currently have no further questions, so I'd like to hand back to the management team for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you very much. We currently have no further questions, so I'd like to hand back to the management team for any closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Hey, everybody. Thanks for joining us today. This is Dave Wilson. If you have any follow-up calls, please reach out to me. Again, appreciate your participation.
Mike Jardon: Hey, everybody, thanks for joining us today. This is Dave Wilson. If you have any follow-up calls, please reach out to me. Again, appreciate your participation. Thank you.
Dave Wilson: Hey, everybody, thanks for joining us today. This is Dave Wilson. If you have any follow-up calls, please reach out to me. Again, appreciate your participation. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
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