Q4 2025 Americold Realty Trust Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Americold Realty Trust's Q4 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Rich Leland, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Americold Realty Trust's Q4 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Rich Leland, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker #2: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Rich Leland, Vice President Investor Relations.
Speaker #2: Thank you. You may begin. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for AMERICOLD REALTY TRUST 4th Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call.
Rich Leland: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for Americold Realty Trust Q4 and full year 2025 earnings conference call. In addition to the press release distributed this morning, we have filed a supplemental financial package with additional detail on our results. These materials are available on the investor relations section of our website at www.americold.com. This morning's conference call is hosted by Americold's Chief Executive Officer, Rob Chambers, along with Scott Henderson, our Chief Investment Officer and Interim Chief Financial Officer. Management will make some prepared comments, after which we will open up the call to your questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that management's remarks today may contain forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated.
Rich Leland: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for Americold Realty Trust Q4 and full year 2025 earnings conference call. In addition to the press release distributed this morning, we have filed a supplemental financial package with additional detail on our results. These materials are available on the investor relations section of our website at www.americold.com. This morning's conference call is hosted by Americold's Chief Executive Officer, Rob Chambers, along with Scott Henderson, our Chief Investment Officer and Interim Chief Financial Officer. Management will make some prepared comments, after which we will open up the call to your questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that management's remarks today may contain forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated.
Speaker #2: In addition to the press release distributed this morning, we have filed a supplemental financial package with additional detail on our results. These materials are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.americold.com.
Speaker #2: This morning's conference call is hosted by Americold's Chief Executive Officer, Rob Chambers, along with Scott Henderson, our Chief Investment Officer and Interim Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker #2: Management will make some prepared comments after which we will open up the call to your questions. Before we begin, let me remind you that management's remarks today may contain forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. These forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs, as well as information available to us at this time, and speak only as of the date they are made.
Rich Leland: These forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs, as well as information available to us at this time, and speak only as of the date they are made. Management undertakes no obligation to update publicly any of these statements in light of new information or future events. During this call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including NOI, Core EBITDA, net debt to Pro Forma Core EBITDA, and AFFO, among others. The full definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in the supplemental financial package available on the company's website. Please note that all warehouse financial results are in constant currency, unless otherwise noted. Now, I'll turn the call over to Rob for his prepared remarks.
Rich Leland: These forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs, as well as information available to us at this time, and speak only as of the date they are made. Management undertakes no obligation to update publicly any of these statements in light of new information or future events. During this call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including NOI, Core EBITDA, net debt to Pro Forma Core EBITDA, and AFFO, among others. The full definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in the supplemental financial package available on the company's website. Please note that all warehouse financial results are in constant currency, unless otherwise noted. Now, I'll turn the call over to Rob for his prepared remarks.
Speaker #2: Management undertakes no obligation to update publicly any of these statements in light of new information or future events. During this call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, including NOI, 4 EBITDA, net debt to pro forma core EBITDA, and AFFO, among others.
Speaker #2: The full definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in the supplemental financial package available on the company's website.
Speaker #2: Please note that all warehouse financial results are in constant currency unless otherwise noted. Now, I'll turn the call over to Rob for his prepared remarks.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Rich, and thank you all for joining our 4th Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Today, I'd like to review our 2025 accomplishments, walk through our 2026 key priorities, and review the components of our 2026 financial outlook.
Rob Chambers: Thank you, Rich, and thank you all for joining our Q4 2025 earnings conference call. Today, I'd like to review our 2025 accomplishments, walk through our 2026 key priorities, and review the components of our 2026 financial outlook. But before I begin, I'd like to take a brief moment to publicly welcome Chris Papa to the Americold Executive Leadership Team. Chris will be joining us on Monday of next week as our new Chief Financial Officer. Chris is a seasoned and highly regarded real estate executive, and previously served as Chief Financial Officer of CenterPoint Properties, a leading developer, owner, and manager of industrial real estate. He also brings extensive public company experience, having served as the CFO for both Post Properties as well as Liberty Property Trust.
Rob Chambers: Thank you, Rich, and thank you all for joining our Q4 2025 earnings conference call. Today, I'd like to review our 2025 accomplishments, walk through our 2026 key priorities, and review the components of our 2026 financial outlook. But before I begin, I'd like to take a brief moment to publicly welcome Chris Papa to the Americold Executive Leadership Team. Chris will be joining us on Monday of next week as our new Chief Financial Officer. Chris is a seasoned and highly regarded real estate executive, and previously served as Chief Financial Officer of CenterPoint Properties, a leading developer, owner, and manager of industrial real estate. He also brings extensive public company experience, having served as the CFO for both Post Properties as well as Liberty Property Trust.
Speaker #3: But before I begin, I'd like to take a brief moment to publicly welcome Chris Papa to the AMERICOLD Executive Leadership Team. Chris will be joining us on Monday of next week as our new Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker #3: Chris is a seasoned and highly regarded real estate executive, and previously served as Chief Financial Officer of CenterPoint Properties—a leading developer, owner, and manager of industrial real estate.
Speaker #3: He also brings extensive public company a CFO for both Post Properties as well as Liberty Property Trust. Over the years, we have intentionally assembled a strong leadership team here at AMERICOLD with extensive operational expertise.
Rob Chambers: Over the years, we have intentionally assembled a strong leadership team here at Americold with extensive operational expertise, and I'm excited to now supplement this with Chris's experience leading two investment-grade rated REITs, and further strengthen our ability to execute on our strategic priorities. Chris is well known in the investment community, and he's looking forward to engaging with all of you throughout the coming year. Turning to our 2025 accomplishments. Despite the persistent industry headwinds we faced throughout the year, our teams continued to execute well. This includes not only delivering on our financial commitments for the quarter, but also making significant progress across many of our key business initiatives. Financially, we delivered fourth quarter AFFO of $0.38 per share, slightly ahead of expectations, which also puts us above the midpoint of our revised full-year guide.
Rob Chambers: Over the years, we have intentionally assembled a strong leadership team here at Americold with extensive operational expertise, and I'm excited to now supplement this with Chris's experience leading two investment-grade rated REITs, and further strengthen our ability to execute on our strategic priorities. Chris is well known in the investment community, and he's looking forward to engaging with all of you throughout the coming year. Turning to our 2025 accomplishments. Despite the persistent industry headwinds we faced throughout the year, our teams continued to execute well. This includes not only delivering on our financial commitments for the quarter, but also making significant progress across many of our key business initiatives. Financially, we delivered fourth quarter AFFO of $0.38 per share, slightly ahead of expectations, which also puts us above the midpoint of our revised full-year guide.
Speaker #3: And I'm excited to now supplement this with Chris's experience leading two investment-grade rated REITs, and further strengthen our ability to execute on our strategic priorities.
Speaker #3: Chris is well known in the investment community and he's looking forward to engaging with all of you throughout the coming year. Turning to our 2025 accomplishments, despite the persistent industry headwinds we faced throughout the year, our teams continued to execute well.
Speaker #3: This includes not only delivering on our financial commitments for the quarter, but also making significant progress across many of our key business initiatives. Financially, we delivered 4th Quarter AFFO of 38 cents per share.
Speaker #3: Slightly ahead of expectations. Which also puts us above the midpoint of our revised full year guide. The combination of sequential increase in occupancy along with the benefits from our ongoing cost reductions and portfolio management initiatives allowed us to deliver a year-over-year quarterly increase in NOI, EBITDA, and AFFO dollars for the first time since Q3 of 2024.
Rob Chambers: The combination of sequential increase in occupancy, along with the benefits from our ongoing cost reductions and portfolio management initiatives, allowed us to deliver a year-over-year quarterly increase in NOI, EBITDA, and AFFO dollars for the first time since Q3 of 2024. Additionally, we are encouraged to see the year-over-year decline in Economic Occupancy improve progressively throughout the year. Scott will review the details of our results in a few minutes, but I'm very pleased with the improvements we've made in our internal forecasting process and how we closed out the year according to plan. Commercially, our teams continued to successfully navigate the current competitive pricing environment and deliver additional gains in both storage and handling rates for the quarter. During 2025, we achieved our goal of generating approximately 60% of our rent and storage revenues from fixed commitment contracts.
Rob Chambers: The combination of sequential increase in occupancy, along with the benefits from our ongoing cost reductions and portfolio management initiatives, allowed us to deliver a year-over-year quarterly increase in NOI, EBITDA, and AFFO dollars for the first time since Q3 of 2024. Additionally, we are encouraged to see the year-over-year decline in Economic Occupancy improve progressively throughout the year. Scott will review the details of our results in a few minutes, but I'm very pleased with the improvements we've made in our internal forecasting process and how we closed out the year according to plan. Commercially, our teams continued to successfully navigate the current competitive pricing environment and deliver additional gains in both storage and handling rates for the quarter. During 2025, we achieved our goal of generating approximately 60% of our rent and storage revenues from fixed commitment contracts.
Speaker #3: Additionally, we are encouraged to see that the year-over-year decline in economic occupancy improved progressively throughout the year. Scott will review the details of our results in a few minutes.
Speaker #3: But I'm very pleased with the improvements we've made in our internal forecasting process and how we closed out the year according to plan. Commercially, our teams continued to successfully navigate the current competitive pricing environment and deliver additional gains in both storage and handling rates for the quarter.
Speaker #3: During 2025, we achieved our goal of generating approximately 60% of our rent and storage revenues from fixed commitment contracts. As many of you remember, this was an initiative that we launched a few years ago when less than 40% of our revenues came from fixed commits.
Rob Chambers: As many of you remember, this was an initiative that we launched a few years ago when less than 40% of our revenues came from fixed commits. Even though customers may reevaluate their overall space requirements, they continue to appreciate the stability and predictability that a fixed commitment contract brings, as it allows them to fully leverage the space and reduce their per pallet costs by turning inventory faster. Americold also benefits from stable cash flows, given the vast majority of these contracts are for multiple years. We truly believe these agreements are a win-win for both parties and are evidence of our ability to lead the industry in commercial excellence. Operationally, we delivered services margins of nearly 14% in the Q4, and our full year margin of 12.7% is up nearly 1,000 basis points over the past two years.
Rob Chambers: As many of you remember, this was an initiative that we launched a few years ago when less than 40% of our revenues came from fixed commits. Even though customers may reevaluate their overall space requirements, they continue to appreciate the stability and predictability that a fixed commitment contract brings, as it allows them to fully leverage the space and reduce their per pallet costs by turning inventory faster. Americold also benefits from stable cash flows, given the vast majority of these contracts are for multiple years. We truly believe these agreements are a win-win for both parties and are evidence of our ability to lead the industry in commercial excellence. Operationally, we delivered services margins of nearly 14% in the Q4, and our full year margin of 12.7% is up nearly 1,000 basis points over the past two years.
Speaker #3: Even though customers may reevaluate their overall space requirements, they continue to appreciate the stability and predictability that a fixed commitment contract brings, as it allows them to fully leverage the space and reduce their per-pallet costs by turning inventory faster.
Speaker #3: AMERICOLD also benefits from stable cash flows given the vast majority of these contracts are for multiple years. We truly believe these agreements are a win-win for both parties and are evidence of our ability to lead the industry in commercial excellence.
Speaker #3: Operationally, we delivered services margins of nearly 14% in the 4th Quarter. And our full year margin of 12.7% is up nearly 1,000 basis points over the past two years.
Speaker #3: We continue to reap the benefits of our labor initiatives and today we have one of the best-trained engaged and highly effective workforces in the industry.
Rob Chambers: We continue to reap the benefits of our labor initiatives, and today we have one of the best trained, engaged, and highly effective workforces in the industry. Their commitment to service excellence is evidenced by our low customer churn rate, which has remained stable in the low single digits, as well as the numerous customer and industry recognitions that we have received throughout the year, including Johnsonville's 3PL Summit Warehouse of the Year for our Clearfield location and the Cold Storage Facility of the Year award from Refrigerated and Frozen Foods Magazine for our Russellville facility. Finally, during 2025, we also supported our customers with the delivery of 3 new expansion and development projects around the world. All of them are consistent with our strategy of focusing our investments on lower risk developments, like our Allentown expansion.
Rob Chambers: We continue to reap the benefits of our labor initiatives, and today we have one of the best trained, engaged, and highly effective workforces in the industry. Their commitment to service excellence is evidenced by our low customer churn rate, which has remained stable in the low single digits, as well as the numerous customer and industry recognitions that we have received throughout the year, including Johnsonville's 3PL Summit Warehouse of the Year for our Clearfield location and the Cold Storage Facility of the Year award from Refrigerated and Frozen Foods Magazine for our Russellville facility. Finally, during 2025, we also supported our customers with the delivery of 3 new expansion and development projects around the world. All of them are consistent with our strategy of focusing our investments on lower risk developments, like our Allentown expansion.
Speaker #3: Their commitment to service excellence is evidenced by our low customer churn rate which has remained well as the numerous customer and industry recognitions that we have received throughout the year including Johnsonville's 3PL Summit Warehouse of the Year, for our Clearfield location, and the cold storage facility of the year award from Refrigerated and Frozen Foods magazine for our Russellville facility.
Speaker #3: Finally, during 2025, we also supported our customers with the delivery of three new expansion and development projects around the world. All of them are consistent with our strategy of focusing our investments on lower-risk developments like our Allentown expansion, we're creating new and innovative supply chain solutions, like our Kansas City and Dubai facilities, that we're developed in conjunction with our strategic partners.
Rob Chambers: We're creating new and innovative supply chain solutions like our Kansas City and Dubai facilities that were developed in conjunction with our strategic partners. Each of these projects was completed on time and on budget. I'm proud of these and all of our accomplishments in 2025 and the foundation they create heading into 2026. Turning to 2026, as we outlined on last quarter's call, there are a number of demand and supply headwinds that are continuing to impact our industry. While we believe most of them are transitory, we do expect them to create continued pressure on revenue throughout the year. This is particularly evident in the food distribution node, where the industry has seen the most speculative development over the past several years.
Rob Chambers: We're creating new and innovative supply chain solutions like our Kansas City and Dubai facilities that were developed in conjunction with our strategic partners. Each of these projects was completed on time and on budget. I'm proud of these and all of our accomplishments in 2025 and the foundation they create heading into 2026. Turning to 2026, as we outlined on last quarter's call, there are a number of demand and supply headwinds that are continuing to impact our industry. While we believe most of them are transitory, we do expect them to create continued pressure on revenue throughout the year. This is particularly evident in the food distribution node, where the industry has seen the most speculative development over the past several years.
Speaker #3: Each of these projects was completed on time and on budget, and I'm proud of these and all of our accomplishments in 2025, and the foundation they create heading into 2026.
Speaker #3: Turning to 2026, as we outlined on last quarter's call, there are a number of demand and supply headwinds that are continuing to impact our industry.
Speaker #3: While we believe most of them are transitory, we do expect them to create continued pressure on revenue throughout the year. This is particularly evident in the four distribution node where the industry has seen the most speculative development over the past several years.
Speaker #3: However, we are not content with waiting on a broader market recovery and shortly after I assume the CEO role, I began a process with our management team and board of directors to develop a list of five key priorities that would further diversify our customer base position us to take advantage of new growth opportunities and ultimately deliver shareholder value.
Rob Chambers: However, we are not content with waiting on a broader market recovery, and shortly after I assumed the CEO role, I began a process with our management team and board of directors to develop a list of five key priorities that would further diversify our customer base, position us to take advantage of new growth opportunities, and ultimately deliver shareholder value. They set the direction for what we want to accomplish in 2026, and I'd like to review them with you now in greater detail. First, we're making meaningful progress on our initiative to delever our balance sheet. We are evaluating a variety of opportunities to achieve this goal, whether it is through a traditional REIT joint venture or selling certain non-strategic assets. This is an important priority for the company, as we are committed to maintaining our investment grade profile.
Rob Chambers: However, we are not content with waiting on a broader market recovery, and shortly after I assumed the CEO role, I began a process with our management team and board of directors to develop a list of five key priorities that would further diversify our customer base, position us to take advantage of new growth opportunities, and ultimately deliver shareholder value. They set the direction for what we want to accomplish in 2026, and I'd like to review them with you now in greater detail. First, we're making meaningful progress on our initiative to delever our balance sheet. We are evaluating a variety of opportunities to achieve this goal, whether it is through a traditional REIT joint venture or selling certain non-strategic assets. This is an important priority for the company, as we are committed to maintaining our investment grade profile.
Speaker #3: They set the direction for what we want to accomplish in 2026, and I'd like to review them with you now in greater detail. First, we're making meaningful progress on our initiative to delever our balance sheet.
Speaker #3: We are evaluating a variety of opportunities to achieve this goal whether it is through a traditional REIT joint venture or selling certain non-strategic assets.
Speaker #3: This is an important priority for the company as we are committed to maintaining our investment-grade profile. The investment-grade rating is a significant advantage in terms of both broad market access as well as cost of capital.
Rob Chambers: The Investment Grade Rating is a significant advantage in terms of both broad market access as well as cost of capital. We have seen strong interest in our assets from multiple potential investors at attractive valuations. Based on our progress so far, we believe that we'll be in position to share additional details on this initiative with you during the first half of the year. Our second priority is to evaluate our global portfolio of diverse real estate assets to ensure that we're maximizing profitability and getting the best and highest use of our facilities. We initiated a robust portfolio management process of low profit facilities in 2025, and already have a track record of successfully exiting properties and reallocating customer inventory, resulting in a favorable transaction for the company.
Rob Chambers: The Investment Grade Rating is a significant advantage in terms of both broad market access as well as cost of capital. We have seen strong interest in our assets from multiple potential investors at attractive valuations. Based on our progress so far, we believe that we'll be in position to share additional details on this initiative with you during the first half of the year. Our second priority is to evaluate our global portfolio of diverse real estate assets to ensure that we're maximizing profitability and getting the best and highest use of our facilities. We initiated a robust portfolio management process of low profit facilities in 2025, and already have a track record of successfully exiting properties and reallocating customer inventory, resulting in a favorable transaction for the company.
Speaker #3: We have seen strong interest in our assets from multiple potential investors and attractive valuations. Based on our progress so far, we believe that we'll be in a position to share additional details on this initiative with you during the first half of the year.
Speaker #3: Our second priority is to evaluate our global portfolio of diverse real estate assets to ensure that we're maximizing profitability and getting the best and highest use of our facilities.
Speaker #3: We initiated a robust portfolio management process of low-profit facilities in 2025 and already have a track record of successfully exiting properties and reallocating customer inventory resulting in a favorable transaction for the company.
Speaker #3: Each property is evaluated for opportunities either within our existing sales pipeline or for potential triple-net lease opportunities to new or existing tenants. Compared to taking the property dark or pursuing an outright sale of assets, they're deemed non-strategic.
Rob Chambers: Each property is evaluated for opportunities, either within our existing sales pipeline or for potential Triple Net Lease opportunities to new or existing tenants, compared to taking the property dark or pursuing an outright sale of assets that are deemed non-strategic. Triple Net Leases are an interesting opportunity as they have not traditionally been an area of focus for Americold. We believe in the current environment, that this could be an attractive way to increase occupancy levels across our network with both food and non-food customers. Our third priority is to drive organic growth by expanding our aperture and leveraging our value proposition into new and previously underpenetrated sectors. Last quarter, I spoke about the value of having a presence at all four nodes of the supply chain, and Americold's leadership position in providing store support solutions to some of the world's largest grocery retailers and QSR brands.
Rob Chambers: Each property is evaluated for opportunities, either within our existing sales pipeline or for potential Triple Net Lease opportunities to new or existing tenants, compared to taking the property dark or pursuing an outright sale of assets that are deemed non-strategic. Triple Net Leases are an interesting opportunity as they have not traditionally been an area of focus for Americold. We believe in the current environment, that this could be an attractive way to increase occupancy levels across our network with both food and non-food customers. Our third priority is to drive organic growth by expanding our aperture and leveraging our value proposition into new and previously underpenetrated sectors. Last quarter, I spoke about the value of having a presence at all four nodes of the supply chain, and Americold's leadership position in providing store support solutions to some of the world's largest grocery retailers and QSR brands.
Speaker #3: Triple-net leases are an interesting opportunity as they have not traditionally been an area of focus for AMERICOLD. We believe in the current environment that this could be an attractive way to increase occupancy levels across our network with both food and non-food customers.
Speaker #3: Our third priority is to drive organic growth by expanding our aperture and leveraging our value proposition into new and previously under-penetrated sectors. Last quarter, I spoke about the value of having a presence at all four nodes of the supply chain.
Speaker #3: And AMERICOLD's leadership position in providing store support solutions to some of the world's largest grocery retailers in QSR brands. This store support service is operationally intensive; however, the fast-turning nature of the business means that we're able to generate a much higher level of NOI per pallet position than any other node.
Rob Chambers: This store support service is operationally intensive. However, the fast-turning nature of the business means that we're able to generate a much higher level of NOI per pallet position than any other node. Despite our leadership position in the sector, we're still only scratching the surface as most of this business is insourced today. We do, however, have strong momentum behind this initiative. During 2025, we won a large fixed commitment contract in the Houston market with one of the world's largest retailers, and later in the year, we successfully expanded our retail presence into Europe for the first time, with large supermarket operators in Portugal and the Netherlands. More recently, I'm especially excited about taking our capabilities into an entirely new sector with a late December announcement of our new win with On the Run.
Rob Chambers: This store support service is operationally intensive. However, the fast-turning nature of the business means that we're able to generate a much higher level of NOI per pallet position than any other node. Despite our leadership position in the sector, we're still only scratching the surface as most of this business is insourced today. We do, however, have strong momentum behind this initiative. During 2025, we won a large fixed commitment contract in the Houston market with one of the world's largest retailers, and later in the year, we successfully expanded our retail presence into Europe for the first time, with large supermarket operators in Portugal and the Netherlands. More recently, I'm especially excited about taking our capabilities into an entirely new sector with a late December announcement of our new win with On the Run.
Speaker #3: Despite our leadership position in the sector, we're still only scratching the surface as most of this business is insourced today. We do, however, have strong momentum behind this initiative.
Speaker #3: During 2025, we want a large fixed commitment contract in the Houston market with one of the world's largest retailers and later in the year, we successfully expanded our retail presence into Europe for the first time with large supermarket operators in Portugal and the Netherlands.
Speaker #3: More recently, I'm especially excited about taking our capabilities into an entirely new sector with the late December announcement of our new win with On the Run.
Speaker #3: On the Run is a well-known and fast-growing gas and convenience store chain in Australia. And our proven model of supporting more than 1,500 QSR locations across six major brands in Asia Pac translates seamlessly to this new sector.
Rob Chambers: On the Run is a well-known and fast-growing gas and convenience store chain in Australia, and our proven model of supporting more than 1,500 QSR locations across six major brands in Asia Pacific translates seamlessly to this new sector. Some of the services we will provide include tri-temperature warehousing, high throughput pick, integrated warehouse and transport solutions, and multi-vendor consolidation. Since that initial announcement in December, we've expanded our relationship with On the Run even further to include new business wins in New South Wales and Queensland, and in total, we will be supporting nearly 600 of their locations across Australia. As I mentioned earlier, we are only scratching the surface of what I see as the long-term potential for Americold to leverage our capabilities in this area with new and existing customers and expand into new sectors and geographies.
Rob Chambers: On the Run is a well-known and fast-growing gas and convenience store chain in Australia, and our proven model of supporting more than 1,500 QSR locations across six major brands in Asia Pacific translates seamlessly to this new sector. Some of the services we will provide include tri-temperature warehousing, high throughput pick, integrated warehouse and transport solutions, and multi-vendor consolidation. Since that initial announcement in December, we've expanded our relationship with On the Run even further to include new business wins in New South Wales and Queensland, and in total, we will be supporting nearly 600 of their locations across Australia. As I mentioned earlier, we are only scratching the surface of what I see as the long-term potential for Americold to leverage our capabilities in this area with new and existing customers and expand into new sectors and geographies.
Speaker #3: Some of the services we will provide include tri-temperature warehousing, high-throughput pick, integrated warehouse and transport solutions, and multi-vendor consolidation. Since that initial announcement in December, we have expanded our relationship with On the Run.
Speaker #3: Even further to include new business wins and new South Wales and Queensland and in total, we will be supporting nearly 600 of their locations across Australia.
Speaker #3: As I mentioned earlier, we are only scratching the surface of what I see as the long-term potential for AMERICOLD to leverage our capabilities in this area with new and existing customers and expand into new sectors and geographies.
Speaker #3: We have a strong reputation for mastering this complex work and continue to demonstrate our ability to close these deals based on our operational expertise and deep customer relationships.
Rob Chambers: We have a strong reputation for mastering this complex work and continue to demonstrate our ability to close these deals based on our operational expertise and deep customer relationships. Additionally, our business development teams are out meeting with customers to identify new sales opportunities in adjacent sectors such as pet food, floral, e-commerce, pharmacy, and more. We've rolled out a new program across our operations to incentivize lead generation and have already closed a couple of new deals in the floral sector. While they are admittedly small to start, we can already see that these types of products fit nicely into our well-established and proven Americold operating system. Most importantly, these wins are strong evidence of our team's ability to execute when we focus the organization's attention on delivering our key priorities.
Rob Chambers: We have a strong reputation for mastering this complex work and continue to demonstrate our ability to close these deals based on our operational expertise and deep customer relationships. Additionally, our business development teams are out meeting with customers to identify new sales opportunities in adjacent sectors such as pet food, floral, e-commerce, pharmacy, and more. We've rolled out a new program across our operations to incentivize lead generation and have already closed a couple of new deals in the floral sector. While they are admittedly small to start, we can already see that these types of products fit nicely into our well-established and proven Americold operating system. Most importantly, these wins are strong evidence of our team's ability to execute when we focus the organization's attention on delivering our key priorities.
Speaker #3: Additionally, our business development teams are out meeting with customers to identify new sales opportunities in adjacent sectors such as pet food, floral, e-commerce, pharmacy, and more.
Speaker #3: We've rolled out a new program across our operations to incentivize lead generation and have already closed a couple of new deals in the floral sector.
Speaker #3: While they are admittedly small to start, we can already see that these types of products fit nicely into our well-established and proven Americold operating system.
Speaker #3: Most importantly, these wins are strong evidence of our team's ability to execute when we focus the organization's attention on delivering our key priorities. Beyond driving organic growth, our fourth priority is to take a very disciplined approach to evaluating inorganic growth opportunities.
Rob Chambers: Beyond driving organic growth, our fourth priority is to take a very disciplined approach to evaluating inorganic growth opportunities. We will continue to focus only on lower-risk developments that are customer or strategic partner-driven, and we are purposely limiting our near-term development spend until our balance sheet leverage is reduced. Our four in-process developments in Port Saint John, Dallas-Fort Worth, Christchurch, New Zealand, and Sydney, Australia, all remain on time and on budget. We are especially looking forward to the Port Saint John grand opening later this year, which is our flagship development in Canada, creating another node in our unique end-to-end logistics solution to move food across North America. The grand opening will be held at this year's Port Days event, which is the one-year anniversary of our initial groundbreaking. Continue to rightsize our cost structure and manage expenses closely.
Rob Chambers: Beyond driving organic growth, our fourth priority is to take a very disciplined approach to evaluating inorganic growth opportunities. We will continue to focus only on lower-risk developments that are customer or strategic partner-driven, and we are purposely limiting our near-term development spend until our balance sheet leverage is reduced. Our four in-process developments in Port Saint John, Dallas-Fort Worth, Christchurch, New Zealand, and Sydney, Australia, all remain on time and on budget. We are especially looking forward to the Port Saint John grand opening later this year, which is our flagship development in Canada, creating another node in our unique end-to-end logistics solution to move food across North America. The grand opening will be held at this year's Port Days event, which is the one-year anniversary of our initial groundbreaking. Continue to rightsize our cost structure and manage expenses closely.
Speaker #3: We will continue to focus only on lower-risk developments that are customer- or strategic partner-driven. And we are purposely limiting our near-term development spend until our balance sheet leverage is reduced.
Speaker #3: Our four in-process developments in Port St. John, Dallas-Fort Worth, Price Church, New Zealand, and Sydney, Australia all remain on time and on budget. We are especially looking forward to the Port St.
Speaker #3: John grand opening later this year which is our flagship development in Canada. Creating another node in our unique end-to-end logistics solution to move food across North America.
Speaker #3: The grand opening will be held at this year's Port Days event, which is the one-year anniversary of our initial groundbreaking. Fifth, we continue to right-size our cost structure and manage expenses closely.
Speaker #3: In the second half of 2025, we began executing our plan to unlock $30 million in annualized cost savings within both indirect labor and SG&A.
Rob Chambers: In the second half of 2025, we began executing our plan to unlock $30 million in annualized cost savings within both indirect labor and SG&A. These actions are now largely complete, giving us confidence in our ability to achieve these savings. Additionally, we expect to reduce Project Orion and transformation-related cash spend this year by approximately $50 million. In the current environment, we are continuing to closely evaluate every dollar of spend, and Scott will give further details on these initiatives when he discusses our full year guidance. I strongly believe that these five priorities position us well to not only manage through some of the near-term headwinds facing our industry, but also establish a strong foundation for Americold's future growth. As I've been speaking with customers over the past several months, it's clear they remain cautious about their outlook for demand this year.
Rob Chambers: In the second half of 2025, we began executing our plan to unlock $30 million in annualized cost savings within both indirect labor and SG&A. These actions are now largely complete, giving us confidence in our ability to achieve these savings. Additionally, we expect to reduce Project Orion and transformation-related cash spend this year by approximately $50 million. In the current environment, we are continuing to closely evaluate every dollar of spend, and Scott will give further details on these initiatives when he discusses our full year guidance. I strongly believe that these five priorities position us well to not only manage through some of the near-term headwinds facing our industry, but also establish a strong foundation for Americold's future growth. As I've been speaking with customers over the past several months, it's clear they remain cautious about their outlook for demand this year.
Speaker #3: These actions are now largely complete giving us confidence in our ability to achieve these savings. Additionally, we expect to reduce project Orion and transformation-related cash spend this year by approximately $50 million.
Speaker #3: In the current environment, we are continuing to closely evaluate every dollar of spend and Scott will give further details on these initiatives when he discusses our four-year guidance.
Speaker #3: I strongly believe that these five priorities position us well to not only manage through some of the near-term headwinds facing our industry, but also establish a strong foundation for Americold's future growth.
Speaker #3: As I've been speaking with customers over the past several months, it's clear they remain cautious about their outlook for demand this year. Food inflation remains a top concern with many food producers reporting price growth while struggling to grow volumes on their core SKUs.
Rob Chambers: Food inflation remains a top concern, with many food producers reporting price growth while struggling to grow volumes on their core SKUs. However, we're encouraged to see some of our customers introducing new products and investing in innovation as a way to drive volume, which could help build safety stock. While we believe physical occupancy has largely stabilized, customers are continuing to manage their inventory tightly and closely evaluating their space requirements as contracts come up for renewal. As you can see from our Q4 results, the team continues to do an excellent job of balancing occupancy and price, but we are taking a realistic view of the market and continue to believe that both will be headwinds for us in 2026.
Rob Chambers: Food inflation remains a top concern, with many food producers reporting price growth while struggling to grow volumes on their core SKUs. However, we're encouraged to see some of our customers introducing new products and investing in innovation as a way to drive volume, which could help build safety stock. While we believe physical occupancy has largely stabilized, customers are continuing to manage their inventory tightly and closely evaluating their space requirements as contracts come up for renewal. As you can see from our Q4 results, the team continues to do an excellent job of balancing occupancy and price, but we are taking a realistic view of the market and continue to believe that both will be headwinds for us in 2026.
Speaker #3: However, we're encouraged to see some of our customers introducing new products and investing in innovation as a way to drive volume, which could help build safety stock.
Speaker #3: While we believe physical occupancy has largely stabilized, customers are continuing to manage their inventory tightly and closely evaluating their space requirements as contracts come up for renewal.
Speaker #3: As you can see from our fourth-quarter results, the team continues to do an excellent job of balancing occupancy and price, but we are taking a realistic view of the market and continue to believe that both will be headwinds for us in 2026.
Speaker #3: With this macro environment in mind, we are taking a pragmatic view to our outlook for the year and expect AFFO to be between $1.20 and $1.30 per share.
Rob Chambers: With this macro environment in mind, we are taking a pragmatic view to our outlook for the year and expect AFFO to be between $1.20 and $1.30 per share. Now I'll turn it over to Scott to walk through some of the details.
Rob Chambers: With this macro environment in mind, we are taking a pragmatic view to our outlook for the year and expect AFFO to be between $1.20 and $1.30 per share. Now I'll turn it over to Scott to walk through some of the details.
Speaker #3: Now I'll turn it over to Scott to walk through some of the details.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Rob. And good morning, everyone. Starting with our financial results, as Rob mentioned, we delivered fourth-quarter AFFO per share of $0.38, which was slightly ahead of expectations.
Scott Henderson: Thanks, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Starting with our financial results, as Rob mentioned, we delivered Q4 AFFO per share of $0.38, which was slightly ahead of expectations. This was an increase versus the prior year. We also saw a year-over-year increase in Q4 core EBITDA and total company NOI. For the full year, we delivered AFFO of $1.43 per share, which was also in line with expectations. Economic occupancy came in slightly better than expected in the Q4, increasing 280 basis points sequentially, primarily due to the impact of the seasonal harvest, slightly better holiday volumes, and portfolio management. Throughput decreased slightly sequentially, as most inflows to build inventory occurred during the Q3. As is typical, we have already started to see occupancy levels in January and February, consistent with normal seasonal trends.
Scott Henderson: Thanks, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Starting with our financial results, as Rob mentioned, we delivered Q4 AFFO per share of $0.38, which was slightly ahead of expectations. This was an increase versus the prior year. We also saw a year-over-year increase in Q4 core EBITDA and total company NOI. For the full year, we delivered AFFO of $1.43 per share, which was also in line with expectations. Economic occupancy came in slightly better than expected in the Q4, increasing 280 basis points sequentially, primarily due to the impact of the seasonal harvest, slightly better holiday volumes, and portfolio management. Throughput decreased slightly sequentially, as most inflows to build inventory occurred during the Q3. As is typical, we have already started to see occupancy levels in January and February, consistent with normal seasonal trends.
Speaker #2: This was an increase versus the prior year and we also saw a year-over-year increase in fourth-quarter core EBITDA and total company NOI. For the full year, we delivered AFFO of $1.43 per share which was also in line with expectations.
Speaker #2: Economic occupancy came in slightly better than expected in the fourth quarter, increasing 280 basis points sequentially, primarily due to the impact of the seasonal harvest, slightly better holiday volumes, and portfolio management.
Speaker #2: Throughput decreased slightly sequentially as most inflows to build inventory occurred during the third quarter. As is typical, we have already seen January and February consistent with normal seasonal trends.
Speaker #2: Both storage and services revenue per pallet were positive in the quarter with services up 2.4% as we continue to protect margin on that piece of the business and ensure that we are fairly compensated for the value that we provide to customers.
Scott Henderson: Both storage and services revenue per pallet were positive in the quarter, with services up 2.4% as we continue to protect margin on that piece of the business and ensure that we are fairly compensated for the value that we provide to customers. Storage revenue per pallet was also up for the quarter, but at a more modest 0.3% rate, reflecting the competitive market pressures that we have mentioned on previous calls. Turning to our Q4 capital markets activity. At the end of December, we entered into a new $250 million term loan, with $150 million of the proceeds used to repay our US revolver down to zero and $100 million of the proceeds going to cash on hand.
Scott Henderson: Both storage and services revenue per pallet were positive in the quarter, with services up 2.4% as we continue to protect margin on that piece of the business and ensure that we are fairly compensated for the value that we provide to customers. Storage revenue per pallet was also up for the quarter, but at a more modest 0.3% rate, reflecting the competitive market pressures that we have mentioned on previous calls. Turning to our Q4 capital markets activity. At the end of December, we entered into a new $250 million term loan, with $150 million of the proceeds used to repay our US revolver down to zero and $100 million of the proceeds going to cash on hand.
Speaker #2: Storage revenue per pallet was also up for the quarter but at a more modest 0.3% rate reflecting the competitive market pressures that we have mentioned on previous calls.
Speaker #2: Turning to our fourth-quarter capital markets activity, at the end of December, we entered into a new $250 million term loan with $150 million of the proceeds used to repay our US revolver down to zero and $100 million of the proceeds going to cash on hand.
Speaker #2: Subsequent to year-end, we then used $100 million of cash and $100 million of U.S. revolver borrowings to repay the $200 million Series A maturity on January 8th.
Scott Henderson: Subsequent to year-end, we then used $100 million of cash and $100 million of US revolver borrowings to repay the $200 million Series A maturity on 8 January 2026. At this point, I'd like to add some detail to a couple of the key priorities for 2026 that Rob reviewed earlier. First is the strategic capital raise to delever the balance sheet. Our leverage at the end of Q4 was 6.8 times, and we are looking to reduce it meaningfully as part of this initiative. We are evaluating a variety of opportunities to achieve this goal, whether it is through a joint venture with an equity partner or selling certain non-strategic assets. This will help solidify our balance sheet while providing a source of funding for future growth.
Scott Henderson: Subsequent to year-end, we then used $100 million of cash and $100 million of US revolver borrowings to repay the $200 million Series A maturity on 8 January 2026. At this point, I'd like to add some detail to a couple of the key priorities for 2026 that Rob reviewed earlier. First is the strategic capital raise to delever the balance sheet. Our leverage at the end of Q4 was 6.8 times, and we are looking to reduce it meaningfully as part of this initiative. We are evaluating a variety of opportunities to achieve this goal, whether it is through a joint venture with an equity partner or selling certain non-strategic assets. This will help solidify our balance sheet while providing a source of funding for future growth.
Speaker #2: At this point, I'd like to add some detail to a couple of the key priorities for 2026 that Rob reviewed earlier. First is the strategic capital raise to deliver the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Our leverage at the end of the fourth quarter was 6.8 times, and we are looking to reduce it meaningfully as part of this initiative.
Speaker #2: We are evaluating a variety of opportunities to achieve this goal whether it is through a joint venture with an equity partner or selling certain non-strategic assets.
Speaker #2: This would help solidify our balance sheet while providing a source of funding for future growth. Given the limited number of large transactions in our space, we anticipate that this will also provide investors with additional insight into the true asset value of our mission-critical infrastructure.
Scott Henderson: Given the limited number of large transactions in our space, we anticipate that this will also provide investors with additional insight into the true asset value of our mission-critical infrastructure. As Rob mentioned, we have made meaningful progress in this area over the past several months and are seeing strong interest in our assets from multiple potential investors. We are also continuing to make great progress with our portfolio management initiative to maximize profitability, ensure the best and highest use of our expansive network of real estate assets. During 2025, we exited our joint venture in Brazil, and we strategically exited or idled a total of 10 sites in North America. In addition to generating cash proceeds for the company, we have also removed over 22 million cubic feet of capacity or more than 65,000 pallet positions.
Scott Henderson: Given the limited number of large transactions in our space, we anticipate that this will also provide investors with additional insight into the true asset value of our mission-critical infrastructure. As Rob mentioned, we have made meaningful progress in this area over the past several months and are seeing strong interest in our assets from multiple potential investors. We are also continuing to make great progress with our portfolio management initiative to maximize profitability, ensure the best and highest use of our expansive network of real estate assets. During 2025, we exited our joint venture in Brazil, and we strategically exited or idled a total of 10 sites in North America. In addition to generating cash proceeds for the company, we have also removed over 22 million cubic feet of capacity or more than 65,000 pallet positions.
Speaker #2: As Rob mentioned, we have made meaningful progress in this area over the past several months, and are seeing strong interest in our assets from multiple potential investors.
Speaker #2: We are also continuing to make great progress with our portfolio management initiative to maximize profitability and ensure the best and highest use of our expansive network of real estate assets.
Speaker #2: During 2025, we exited our joint venture in Brazil and we strategically exited or idled a total of 10 sites in North America. In addition to generating cash proceeds for the company, we have also removed over $22 million cubic feet of capacity or more than $65,000 pallet positions.
Speaker #2: For 2026, we have already identified a total of nine sites that are prime candidates and two of these were closed in the first quarter.
Scott Henderson: For 2026, we have already identified a total of nine sites that are prime candidates, and two of these were closed in Q1. As a reminder, the majority of inventory at these sites can be moved to nearby facilities, resulting in a benefit to our bottom line. This not only provides savings from a cost perspective, but it also allows us to reallocate capital to sites that are performing well. I'm proud of the results our team has already demonstrated in this area and look forward to what they will accomplish this year. Now, I'd like to take a few moments to discuss the assumptions and details behind our 2026 outlook.
Scott Henderson: For 2026, we have already identified a total of nine sites that are prime candidates, and two of these were closed in Q1. As a reminder, the majority of inventory at these sites can be moved to nearby facilities, resulting in a benefit to our bottom line. This not only provides savings from a cost perspective, but it also allows us to reallocate capital to sites that are performing well. I'm proud of the results our team has already demonstrated in this area and look forward to what they will accomplish this year. Now, I'd like to take a few moments to discuss the assumptions and details behind our 2026 outlook.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, the majority of inventory at these sites can be moved to nearby facilities, resulting in a benefit to our bottom line. This not only provides savings from a cost perspective, but it also allows us to reallocate capital to sites that are performing well.
Speaker #2: I'm proud of the results our team has already demonstrated in this area and look forward to what they will accomplish this year. Now, I'd like to take a few moments to discuss the assumptions and details behind our 2026 outlook.
Speaker #2: While we are excited about the early momentum we are seeing behind all five of our key priorities, we do realize that the market environment remains challenging and it will take time to fully realize the benefits from these initiatives.
Scott Henderson: While we are excited about the early momentum we are seeing behind all five of our key priorities, we do realize that the market environment remains challenging, and it will take time to fully realize the benefits from these initiatives. Importantly, our outlook does not assume an increase in consumer demand or incorporate any transactions that have not yet been announced. As Rob mentioned earlier, we are expecting full year 2026 AFFO between $1.20 and $1.30 per share. I would like to remind everyone that the second half of the year tends to experience higher volumes due to the impact of the agricultural harvest and a pickup in demand around the holiday season. As I mentioned earlier, we did see a slight seasonal lift in Q4 and have already seen the normal decline begin in Q1.
Scott Henderson: While we are excited about the early momentum we are seeing behind all five of our key priorities, we do realize that the market environment remains challenging, and it will take time to fully realize the benefits from these initiatives. Importantly, our outlook does not assume an increase in consumer demand or incorporate any transactions that have not yet been announced. As Rob mentioned earlier, we are expecting full year 2026 AFFO between $1.20 and $1.30 per share. I would like to remind everyone that the second half of the year tends to experience higher volumes due to the impact of the agricultural harvest and a pickup in demand around the holiday season. As I mentioned earlier, we did see a slight seasonal lift in Q4 and have already seen the normal decline begin in Q1.
Speaker #2: Importantly, our outlook does not assume an increase in consumer demand or incorporate any transactions that have not yet been announced. As Rob mentioned earlier, we are expecting full-year 2026 AFFO between $1.20 and $1.30 per share.
Speaker #2: I would like to remind everyone that the second half of the year tends to experience higher volumes due to the impact of the agricultural harvest and a pickup in demand around the holiday season.
Speaker #2: As I mentioned earlier, we did see a slight seasonal lift in Q4 and have already seen the normal decline begin in Q1. As is typical, we are expecting first-quarter AFFO to be the lowest quarter of the year with sequential increases as we progress throughout the year.
Scott Henderson: As is typical, we're expecting Q1 AFFO to be the lowest quarter of the year, with sequential increases as we progress throughout the year. Now, I'll move on to the specific components of our full year outlook. During our last call, we indicated that we expected revenue per pallet in total to be down approximately 100 to 200 basis points and economic occupancy to be flat to down by as much as 300 basis points in 2026, as the current market conditions are causing customers to reevaluate their space commitments at contract renewal. The 2026 renewals so far have followed these high-level trends as we continue to thread the needle between price and occupancy for each customer and minimize the overall impact to revenue and profitability.
Scott Henderson: As is typical, we're expecting Q1 AFFO to be the lowest quarter of the year, with sequential increases as we progress throughout the year. Now, I'll move on to the specific components of our full year outlook. During our last call, we indicated that we expected revenue per pallet in total to be down approximately 100 to 200 basis points and economic occupancy to be flat to down by as much as 300 basis points in 2026, as the current market conditions are causing customers to reevaluate their space commitments at contract renewal. The 2026 renewals so far have followed these high-level trends as we continue to thread the needle between price and occupancy for each customer and minimize the overall impact to revenue and profitability.
Speaker #2: Now, I'll move on to the specific components of our full-year outlook. During our last call, we indicated that we expected revenue per pallet and total to be down approximately 100 to 200 basis points, and economic occupancy to be flat to down by as much as 300 basis points in 2026, as the current market conditions are causing customers to reevaluate their space commitments at contract renewal.
Speaker #2: The 2026 renewals so far have followed these high-level trends as we continue to thread the needle between price and occupancy for each customer and minimize the overall impact to revenue and profitability.
Speaker #2: As a result, we would expect to generate same-store revenue for the year of approximately $2.2 to $2.27 billion. For same-store NOI, we are expecting a range of between $735 and $785 million for 2026.
Scott Henderson: As a result, we would expect to generate same-store revenue for the year of approximately $2.2 to 2.27 billion. For same-store NOI, we're expecting a range of between $735 and 785 million for 2026. This reflects the continued pricing and occupancy pressure mentioned earlier, partially offset by our cost-cutting and portfolio management initiatives. As I mentioned previously, one of our five key priorities for this year is to rightsize our cost structure. As part of this initiative, we've identified opportunities to streamline our operations and eliminate $30 million worth of indirect warehouse labor and SG&A costs. These actions started in Q4 and have been largely completed, helping to offset other inflationary pressures across the business.
Scott Henderson: As a result, we would expect to generate same-store revenue for the year of approximately $2.2 to 2.27 billion. For same-store NOI, we're expecting a range of between $735 and 785 million for 2026. This reflects the continued pricing and occupancy pressure mentioned earlier, partially offset by our cost-cutting and portfolio management initiatives. As I mentioned previously, one of our five key priorities for this year is to rightsize our cost structure. As part of this initiative, we've identified opportunities to streamline our operations and eliminate $30 million worth of indirect warehouse labor and SG&A costs. These actions started in Q4 and have been largely completed, helping to offset other inflationary pressures across the business.
Speaker #2: This reflects the continued pricing and occupancy pressure mentioned earlier partially offset by our cost-cutting and portfolio management initiatives. As I mentioned previously, one of our five key priorities for this year is to right-size our cost structure.
Speaker #2: As part of this initiative, we've identified opportunities to streamline our operations and eliminate $30 million worth of indirect warehouse labor in SG&A cost. These actions started in Q4 and have been largely completed helping to offset other inflationary pressures across the business.
Speaker #2: For total company NOI, we are expecting approximately $780 to $845 million which includes the impact of same-store warehouse discussed earlier in addition to our transportation segment and non-same-store warehouses.
Scott Henderson: For total company NOI, we are expecting approximately $780 to 845 million, which includes the impact of same-store warehouse discussed earlier, in addition to our transportation segment and non-same-store warehouses. For 2026, we expect core SG&A to be between $218 and $228 million, which is a reduction of nearly $7 million at the midpoint. This reflects the targeted cost reductions we are making across the business, partially offset by labor inflation and other cost increases forecasted in 2026. Additionally, as Rob mentioned, we expect to reduce Project Orion-related cash spend by $50 million. While this does not impact AFFO, it does free up important additional capital for other business needs.
Scott Henderson: For total company NOI, we are expecting approximately $780 to 845 million, which includes the impact of same-store warehouse discussed earlier, in addition to our transportation segment and non-same-store warehouses. For 2026, we expect core SG&A to be between $218 and $228 million, which is a reduction of nearly $7 million at the midpoint. This reflects the targeted cost reductions we are making across the business, partially offset by labor inflation and other cost increases forecasted in 2026. Additionally, as Rob mentioned, we expect to reduce Project Orion-related cash spend by $50 million. While this does not impact AFFO, it does free up important additional capital for other business needs.
Speaker #2: For 2026, we expect core SG&A to be between $218 million and $228 million, which is a reduction of nearly $7 million at the midpoint. This reflects the targeted cost reductions we are making across the business, partially offset by labor inflation and other cost increases forecast in 2026.
Speaker #2: Additionally, as Rob mentioned, we expect to reduce project Orion-related cash spend by $50 million. While this does not impact AFFO, it does free up important additional capital for other business needs.
Speaker #2: We are expecting core EBITDA of between $570 and $620 million for the year reflecting the NOI and SG&A outlooks that I have already discussed.
Scott Henderson: We are expecting Core EBITDA of between $570 and $620 million for the year, reflecting the NOI and SG&A outlooks that I have already discussed. For interest expense, we are forecasting between $170 and $180 million for the full year. As a reminder, we have been capitalizing interest related to our ongoing development projects, which ends as projects are completed and come online. For Maintenance CapEx, we are expecting to spend between $60 and $70 million for the year, consistent with 2025, as volumes remain low and we continue with our portfolio management review process. You will note that we have streamlined our guidance parameters to align with industry standards and allow us to focus our messaging on key drivers of performance.
Scott Henderson: We are expecting Core EBITDA of between $570 and $620 million for the year, reflecting the NOI and SG&A outlooks that I have already discussed. For interest expense, we are forecasting between $170 and $180 million for the full year. As a reminder, we have been capitalizing interest related to our ongoing development projects, which ends as projects are completed and come online. For Maintenance CapEx, we are expecting to spend between $60 and $70 million for the year, consistent with 2025, as volumes remain low and we continue with our portfolio management review process. You will note that we have streamlined our guidance parameters to align with industry standards and allow us to focus our messaging on key drivers of performance.
Speaker #2: For interest expense, we are forecasting between $170 and $180 million for the full year. As a reminder, we have been capitalizing interest related to our ongoing development projects which ends as projects are completed and come online.
Speaker #2: For maintenance capex, we are expecting to spend between $60 and $70 million for the year consistent with 2025 as volumes remain low and we continue with our portfolio management review process.
Speaker #2: You will note that we have streamlined our guidance parameters to align with industry standards and allow us to focus our messaging on key drivers of performance.
Speaker #2: We expect to retain the current high level of transparency into our initiatives and quarterly results. We believe that this will ultimately enhance confidence in our forecasting ability, while ensuring continued transparency and accountability.
Scott Henderson: We expect to retain the current high level of transparency into our initiatives and quarterly results. We believe that this will ultimately enhance confidence in our forecasting ability while ensuring continued transparency and accountability. Additionally, please note that our managed segment will be consolidated in our warehouse segment for 2026, which is reflected in our guidance. Now, I'll turn the call back over to Rob for some closing remarks. Rob?
Scott Henderson: We expect to retain the current high level of transparency into our initiatives and quarterly results. We believe that this will ultimately enhance confidence in our forecasting ability while ensuring continued transparency and accountability. Additionally, please note that our managed segment will be consolidated in our warehouse segment for 2026, which is reflected in our guidance. Now, I'll turn the call back over to Rob for some closing remarks. Rob?
Speaker #2: Additionally, please note that our managed segment will be consolidated in our warehouse segment for 2026 which is reflected in our guidance. Now, I'll turn the call back over to Rob for some closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Rob?
Speaker #1: Thank you, Scott. As you've heard on this morning's call, we are entering 2026 with a clear set of priorities to position AmeriCold for future success.
Rob Chambers: Thank you, Scott. As you heard on this morning's call, we are entering 2026 with a clear set of priorities, position Americold for future success. While we recognize that there are still challenges across the industry, we are actively generating new opportunities as well. Most importantly, we continue to service our customers with excellence, and our value proposition remains clear.... Our diverse network of real estate contains many opportunities to generate revenue through multiple operating environments, and our experienced management team is dedicated and focused on unlocking that value. We are one of the few cold storage owners and operators with a presence at every node of the supply chain, and when coupled with our deep customer relationships, strategic partnerships, and operational excellence, this gives us a unique advantage.
Rob Chambers: Thank you, Scott. As you heard on this morning's call, we are entering 2026 with a clear set of priorities, position Americold for future success. While we recognize that there are still challenges across the industry, we are actively generating new opportunities as well. Most importantly, we continue to service our customers with excellence, and our value proposition remains clear.... Our diverse network of real estate contains many opportunities to generate revenue through multiple operating environments, and our experienced management team is dedicated and focused on unlocking that value. We are one of the few cold storage owners and operators with a presence at every node of the supply chain, and when coupled with our deep customer relationships, strategic partnerships, and operational excellence, this gives us a unique advantage.
Speaker #1: While we recognize that there are still challenges across the industry, we are actively generating new opportunities as well. Most importantly, we continue to service our customers with excellence and our value proposition remains clear.
Speaker #1: Our diverse network of real estate contains many opportunities to generate revenue through multiple operating environments, and our experienced management team is dedicated and focused on unlocking that value.
Speaker #1: We are one of the few cold storage owners and operators with a presence at every node of the supply chain and when coupled with our deep customer relationships, strategic partnerships, and operational excellence, this gives us a unique advantage.
Speaker #1: We are excited about the early progress we've made on our 2026 key priorities but I realize it will take time to reap the full benefits.
Rob Chambers: We are excited about the early progress we've made on our 2026 key priorities, but I realize it will take time to reap the full benefits. I believe that we have the right strategy and the right team to drive continued momentum in these initiatives, and I look forward to reporting on our progress as we proceed throughout the year. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator?
Rob Chambers: We are excited about the early progress we've made on our 2026 key priorities, but I realize it will take time to reap the full benefits. I believe that we have the right strategy and the right team to drive continued momentum in these initiatives, and I look forward to reporting on our progress as we proceed throughout the year. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator?
Speaker #1: I believe that we have the right strategy and the right team to drive continued momentum in these initiatives and I look forward to reporting on our progress as we proceed throughout the year.
Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator?
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Speaker #4: Good morning, everybody. So, Rob, maybe to set the tone here, kind of high level, let's talk about the customer and kind of the demand side, right?
Joshua Dennerlein: Good morning, everybody. So Rob, maybe to set the tone here, kind of high level, let's talk about the customer and kind of the demand side, right? I mean, you talked a little bit about, you know, customer contracts that are coming up for renewal. So maybe high level, talk about kind of what you're hearing from the customer. Thanks.
Sameer Kanal: Good morning, everybody. So Rob, maybe to set the tone here, kind of high level, let's talk about the customer and kind of the demand side, right? I mean, you talked a little bit about, you know, customer contracts that are coming up for renewal. So maybe high level, talk about kind of what you're hearing from the customer. Thanks.
Speaker #4: I mean, you talked a little bit about customer contracts that are coming up for renewal. So maybe high level, talk about kind of what you're hearing from the customer.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Samira. Yeah, I mean, obviously, tons of conversations over the last few months. With a majority of our customers and I think pretty consistently, we're hearing both in those discussions and in terms of what we see in their earnings releases that their net sales growth is relatively flattish and that's the projection for most of 2026.
Rob Chambers: Thanks, Sameer. Yeah, I mean, obviously, tons of conversations over the last few months with a majority of our customers. And I think, you know, pretty consistently, we're hearing both in those discussions and in terms of what we see in their earnings releases, that, you know, their net sales growth is relatively flattish, and that's the projection for most of 2026. Those flattish numbers are really a result of their price being up low to mid-single digits, and then their volume being, you know, down low to mid-single digits. I think most, as they look out throughout the course of the year, are not necessarily, you know, predicting large inflections in consumer demand, and so that's really what we've incorporated into our guidance for the year.
Rob Chambers: Thanks, Sameer. Yeah, I mean, obviously, tons of conversations over the last few months with a majority of our customers. And I think, you know, pretty consistently, we're hearing both in those discussions and in terms of what we see in their earnings releases, that, you know, their net sales growth is relatively flattish, and that's the projection for most of 2026. Those flattish numbers are really a result of their price being up low to mid-single digits, and then their volume being, you know, down low to mid-single digits. I think most, as they look out throughout the course of the year, are not necessarily, you know, predicting large inflections in consumer demand, and so that's really what we've incorporated into our guidance for the year.
Speaker #1: Those flattish numbers are really a result of their price being up, low to mid-single digits, and then their volume being down, low to mid-single digits.
Speaker #1: I think most, as they look out throughout the course of the year, are not necessarily predicting large inflections in consumer demand and so that's really what we've incorporated into our guidance for the year.
Rob Chambers: That said, everybody knows it would be really tough for, I think, our consumers to really stomach a lot of material price increases from here. So they're definitely focused on ways to try to grow volume. There is a lot of talk about the investments that they're gonna make in their brands and the promotional dollars that have been set aside for 2026 to really try to drive some volumes on their core SKUs. But I think probably the green shoots or the encouraging dialogue that we have with customers now are about the fact that they recognize the need to drive volume, and so they are looking at more innovation in 2026, how they, you know, really try to have some successful new product launches in 2026.
Speaker #1: That said, everybody knows it would be really tough for, I think, our for consumers to really stomach a lot of material price increases from here.
Rob Chambers: That said, everybody knows it would be really tough for, I think, our consumers to really stomach a lot of material price increases from here. So they're definitely focused on ways to try to grow volume. There is a lot of talk about the investments that they're gonna make in their brands and the promotional dollars that have been set aside for 2026 to really try to drive some volumes on their core SKUs. But I think probably the green shoots or the encouraging dialogue that we have with customers now are about the fact that they recognize the need to drive volume, and so they are looking at more innovation in 2026, how they, you know, really try to have some successful new product launches in 2026.
Speaker #1: So they're definitely focused on ways to try to grow volume. There is a lot of talk about the investments that they're going to make in their brands and the promotional dollars that have been set aside for 2026 to really try to drive some volumes on their core SKUs.
Speaker #1: But I think probably the green shoots or the encouraging dialogue that we have with customers now are about the fact that they recognize the need to drive volume and so they are looking at more innovation in 2026, how they really try to have some successful new product launches in 2026 and those are things that would drive safety stock and all that said, while there's good dialogue about what the year could look like, we're not going to sit back and wait for that traditional business to inflect like we've said in our prepared remarks, the BD teams out looking at new commodities, looking at new sectors that we can lean into, and probably the best example of that was the on-the-run deal that we won late in the year, which is in a brand new sector, which is the convenience store distribution.
Rob Chambers: And, you know, those are things that would drive safety stock. And, you know, all that said, while there's good dialogue about what the year could look like, we're not gonna sit back and wait for that traditional business to inflect. Like we said in our prepared remarks, the BD team's out looking at new commodities, looking at new sectors that we can lean into. And probably the best example of that was the OTR deal that we won late in the year, which is in a brand-new sector, which is the convenience store distribution.
Rob Chambers: And, you know, those are things that would drive safety stock. And, you know, all that said, while there's good dialogue about what the year could look like, we're not gonna sit back and wait for that traditional business to inflect. Like we said in our prepared remarks, the BD team's out looking at new commodities, looking at new sectors that we can lean into. And probably the best example of that was the OTR deal that we won late in the year, which is in a brand-new sector, which is the convenience store distribution.
Speaker #1: So, when you think about all the things that we're doing, kind of in an idiosyncratic manner, and the fact that we have our real estate team out looking at opportunities as well, I think we've got a great chance to deliver on the expectations that we put forward for the year.
Rob Chambers: So when you think about all the things that we're doing kind of in a, you know, idiosyncratic manner and the fact that we have our real estate team out looking at opportunities as well, I think we've got, you know, a great chance to deliver on the expectations that we put forward for the year.
Rob Chambers: So when you think about all the things that we're doing kind of in a, you know, idiosyncratic manner and the fact that we have our real estate team out looking at opportunities as well, I think we've got, you know, a great chance to deliver on the expectations that we put forward for the year.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: Hey, thanks. On the occupancy assumptions for '26, Scott, I noted in your prepared remarks you said you expect economic occupancy to be flat to down 300 basis points.
Michael Griffin: Hey, thanks. On the occupancy assumptions for 2026, Scott, I know in your prepared remarks, you said you expect economic occupancy to be flat to down 300 basis points. I think last quarter, the expectation was down 200 to 300 basis points, at least just looking at the transcript last quarter. So did anything change kind of, you know, quarter-over-quarter there? Maybe, you know, shedding some of these underperforming assets could help boost economic occupancy. Just wanna make sure I've got things lined up from an apples-to-apples perspective as it relates to economic occupancy expectations.
Michael Griffin: Hey, thanks. On the occupancy assumptions for 2026, Scott, I know in your prepared remarks, you said you expect economic occupancy to be flat to down 300 basis points. I think last quarter, the expectation was down 200 to 300 basis points, at least just looking at the transcript last quarter. So did anything change kind of, you know, quarter-over-quarter there? Maybe, you know, shedding some of these underperforming assets could help boost economic occupancy. Just wanna make sure I've got things lined up from an apples-to-apples perspective as it relates to economic occupancy expectations.
Speaker #1: I think last quarter, the expectation was down 200 to 300 basis points, at least just looking at the transcript last quarter. So did anything change kind of quarter over quarter there?
Speaker #1: Maybe shedding some of these underperforming assets could help boost economic occupancy? Just want to make sure I’ve got things lined up from an apples-to-apples perspective as it relates to economic occupancy expectations.
Speaker #4: Sure. So I'll take that one. I mean, I think you're right. I mean, so last time we talked a little bit about 2 to 300.
Rob Chambers: Sure. So I'll take that one. I mean, I think you're right. I mean, so last time we talked a little bit about 200 to 300, and again, at that point, we wanted to provide some parameters. It wasn't necessarily formal guidance, but we were encouraged by what we saw in Q4. The sequential occupancy growth of 280 basis points was certainly higher than what we had originally planned. I think it's a combination of a number of things. Some of it is the portfolio management activities that we are actively in the process of executing. That helps. It's the new business sales pipeline that we talked about last year.
Rob Chambers: Sure. So I'll take that one. I mean, I think you're right. I mean, so last time we talked a little bit about 200 to 300, and again, at that point, we wanted to provide some parameters. It wasn't necessarily formal guidance, but we were encouraged by what we saw in Q4. The sequential occupancy growth of 280 basis points was certainly higher than what we had originally planned. I think it's a combination of a number of things. Some of it is the portfolio management activities that we are actively in the process of executing. That helps. It's the new business sales pipeline that we talked about last year.
Speaker #4: And again, at that point, we wanted to provide some parameters. It wasn't necessarily formal guidance, but we were encouraged by what we saw in the fourth quarter, the sequential occupancy growth of 280 basis points was certainly higher than what we had originally planned.
Speaker #4: I think it's a combination of a number of things. Some of it is the portfolio management activities that we are actively in the process of executing.
Speaker #4: That helps it's the new business sales pipeline that we talked about last year. We said a lot of that volume would be delayed a bit and we're encouraged, by the way, that came in at the end of the year.
Rob Chambers: You know, we said a lot of that volume would be, you know, delayed a bit, and we were encouraged by the way that came in at the end of the year. And then really the dialogue around where these contract renewals are coming in. It's based on what we've seen thus far over the last three or four months. We certainly attack those renewals, you know, far ahead of when their actual expiries are. And based on what we see now, it's a little more favorable than what we talked about last quarter.
Rob Chambers: You know, we said a lot of that volume would be, you know, delayed a bit, and we were encouraged by the way that came in at the end of the year. And then really the dialogue around where these contract renewals are coming in. It's based on what we've seen thus far over the last three or four months. We certainly attack those renewals, you know, far ahead of when their actual expiries are. And based on what we see now, it's a little more favorable than what we talked about last quarter.
Speaker #4: And then really the dialogue around where these contract renewals are coming in. It's based on what we've seen thus far over the last three or four months.
Speaker #4: We certainly attacked those renewals far ahead of when their actual expiries are. And based on what we see now, it's a little more favorable than what we talked about last quarter.
Speaker #1: Hey, Griff, it's Scott. Just to follow up too, as a reminder, on page 29 of our IR supplement, you'll see the new same-store pool that gets recast to the prior year of 2025 on a quarterly basis.
Scott Henderson: Hey, Griff, it's Scott. Just to follow up, too, as a reminder, on page 29 of our IR supplement, you'll see the new same-store pool that gets recast to the prior year of 2025 on a quarterly basis. So when you're building your model, just a reminder that page 29 is the new same-store pool.
Scott Henderson: Hey, Griff, it's Scott. Just to follow up, too, as a reminder, on page 29 of our IR supplement, you'll see the new same-store pool that gets recast to the prior year of 2025 on a quarterly basis. So when you're building your model, just a reminder that page 29 is the new same-store pool.
Speaker #1: So when you're building your model, just a reminder that page 29 is the new same-store pool.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Scott. And just to clarify, are the asset sales or deleveraging expected in your '26 AFFO guidance?
Michael Griffin: Thanks, Scott. Just to clarify, are the asset sales or deleveraging expected in your 26 AFFO guidance?
Michael Griffin: Thanks, Scott. Just to clarify, are the asset sales or deleveraging expected in your 26 AFFO guidance?
Speaker #1: They are not. No.
Scott Henderson: They are not.
Scott Henderson: They are not.
Michael Griffin: Okay, great. Thank you.
Michael Griffin: Okay, great. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Scott Henderson: No, anything that hasn't been announced is not included.
Scott Henderson: No, anything that hasn't been announced is not included.
Speaker #1: Anything that hasn't been announced is not included.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed.
Speaker #6: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. As part of your portfolio review, can you talk about your international presence? How important is the Europe and Asia geographies as part of your core business?
Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. As part of your portfolio review, can you talk about your international presence? How important is the Europe and Asia geographies as part of your core business? How much synergy is there with the core US? How easy would it be separate, separate? And just, well, you know, what's the appetite right now to maybe streamline the geographies? Thanks.
Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. As part of your portfolio review, can you talk about your international presence? How important is the Europe and Asia geographies as part of your core business? How much synergy is there with the core US? How easy would it be separate, separate? And just, well, you know, what's the appetite right now to maybe streamline the geographies? Thanks.
Speaker #6: How much synergy is there with the core US? How easy would it be to separate? And just what's the appetite right now to maybe streamline the geographies?
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #4: Sure. Yeah. I mean, our international assets—both in Europe and Asia-Pacific, as well as our joint venture in the Middle East—are all assets that we would say are performing well and in line with our expectations.
Rob Chambers: Sure. Look, yeah, I mean, our international assets are both in Europe, Asia Pacific, our joint venture in the Middle East, are all assets that we would say are performing well and in line with our expectations. We are doing a very thorough review of our entire portfolio, as we described previously, to make sure that we feel like, you know, all of our focus and intention are on the markets and submarkets that we feel like we can, you know, win in longer term. And so, you know, we're doing an evaluation across the board of what the right portfolio is gonna look like going forward. We can't get into any more specifics than that at this period of time.
Rob Chambers: Sure. Look, yeah, I mean, our international assets are both in Europe, Asia Pacific, our joint venture in the Middle East, are all assets that we would say are performing well and in line with our expectations. We are doing a very thorough review of our entire portfolio, as we described previously, to make sure that we feel like, you know, all of our focus and intention are on the markets and submarkets that we feel like we can, you know, win in longer term. And so, you know, we're doing an evaluation across the board of what the right portfolio is gonna look like going forward. We can't get into any more specifics than that at this period of time.
Speaker #4: We are doing a very thorough review of our entire portfolio as we described previously to make sure that we feel like all of our focus and intention are on the markets and sub-markets that we feel like we can win in longer term.
Speaker #4: And so we're doing an evaluation across the board of what the right portfolio is going to look like going forward. We can't get into any more specifics than that at this period of time.
Speaker #4: But as we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we're very focused on how we ensure that we can strengthen our foundation, delever our balance sheet, and put ourselves in a position to grow long-term.
Rob Chambers: But as we, as we mentioned, you know, on the—in our prepared remarks, we're very focused on how we ensure that we can, you know, strengthen our foundation, delever our balance sheet, and put ourselves in a position to grow long term. And, you know, we feel like we'll be in a position to give more details around that, you know, here in the first half of the year.
Rob Chambers: But as we, as we mentioned, you know, on the—in our prepared remarks, we're very focused on how we ensure that we can, you know, strengthen our foundation, delever our balance sheet, and put ourselves in a position to grow long term. And, you know, we feel like we'll be in a position to give more details around that, you know, here in the first half of the year.
Speaker #4: And we feel like we'll be in a position to give more details around that here in the first half of the year.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Craig Melman with Citigroup. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Craig Millman with Citigroup. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Craig Millman with Citigroup. Please proceed.
Speaker #6: Thanks. It's Nick Joseph here with Craig. Just on the deleveraging initiative, what percentage of assets are either non-core and what's the size of the potential JV pool that you'd be looking to do?
Nick Joseph: Thanks. It's Nick Joseph here with Craig. Just on the deleveraging initiative, you know, what percentage of assets are, you know, either non-core, and what's the size of the potential JV pool that you'd be looking to do?
Nick Joseph: Thanks. It's Nick Joseph here with Craig. Just on the deleveraging initiative, you know, what percentage of assets are, you know, either non-core, and what's the size of the potential JV pool that you'd be looking to do?
Speaker #4: Yeah. So I think from our perspective, the way to really think about it is we want to put ourselves in a position where we get to a leverage level that will allow us to continue to be and have an investment-grade rated balance sheet that is key.
Rob Chambers: Yeah, so, you know, I think from our perspective, the way to really think about it is, we wanna put ourselves in a position where we get to a leverage level that will allow us to continue to be and have an investment-grade rated balance sheet. That is key. And so when we think about, you know, what that means, it's leverage coming down, you know, materially, you know, to 6 or below. So, you know, you can kind of do the math on what would be required to get us all the way there. But that is the focus, is how do we make sure that we, you know, have a transaction that's sizable enough to meaningfully delever and maintain investment grade?
Rob Chambers: Yeah, so, you know, I think from our perspective, the way to really think about it is, we wanna put ourselves in a position where we get to a leverage level that will allow us to continue to be and have an investment-grade rated balance sheet. That is key. And so when we think about, you know, what that means, it's leverage coming down, you know, materially, you know, to 6 or below. So, you know, you can kind of do the math on what would be required to get us all the way there. But that is the focus, is how do we make sure that we, you know, have a transaction that's sizable enough to meaningfully delever and maintain investment grade?
Speaker #4: And so when we think about what that means, it's leverage coming down materially, to 6 or below. So you can kind of do the math on what would be required to get us all the way there.
Speaker #4: But that is the focus, is how do we make sure that we have a transaction that's sizable enough to meaningfully delever and maintain investment-grade?
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Greg McGuinness with Scotiabank. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Greg McGinnis with Scotiabank. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Greg McGinnis with Scotiabank. Please proceed.
Speaker #6: Hey, good morning. I just want to talk about kind of expected retention on the fixed contracts expirations 30% of the total pool of fixed contracts that's expiring.
Greg McGinniss: Hey, good morning. I just wanted to talk about kind of expected retention on, you know, the fixed contracts, expirations, 30% of the total pool of fixed contracts that's expiring. And then are these, you know, customers kind of fully stepping back from fixed contracts? Are they just paring back the requirements? Are they pushing on pricing? Any additional color would be appreciated.
Greg McGinniss: Hey, good morning. I just wanted to talk about kind of expected retention on, you know, the fixed contracts, expirations, 30% of the total pool of fixed contracts that's expiring. And then are these, you know, customers kind of fully stepping back from fixed contracts? Are they just paring back the requirements? Are they pushing on pricing? Any additional color would be appreciated.
Speaker #6: And then are these customers kind of fully stepping back from fixed contracts? Are they just paring back their requirements? Are they pushing on pricing?
Speaker #6: Any additional color would be appreciated.
Speaker #4: Thanks for the question, Greg. Yeah. So we've been in a tough demand environment for a while. And I got to tell you, we're very proud of the team for the way that we've kind of led the industry here in terms of fixed commitment contracts.
Rob Chambers: Thanks for the question, Greg. Yeah, so, we've been in a tough, you know, demand environment for a while, and I got to tell you, we're very proud of the team for the way that, you know, we've kind of led the industry here in terms of fixed commitment contracts. We talked about the growth that we've seen in that over the last several quarters, despite the challenging environment. We know 2026 is an outsized year for renewals. The first point that I would make is, as I said in my prepared remarks, customers see the value of having space committed. This is mission-critical infrastructure for our customer supply chain.
Rob Chambers: Thanks for the question, Greg. Yeah, so, we've been in a tough, you know, demand environment for a while, and I got to tell you, we're very proud of the team for the way that, you know, we've kind of led the industry here in terms of fixed commitment contracts. We talked about the growth that we've seen in that over the last several quarters, despite the challenging environment. We know 2026 is an outsized year for renewals. The first point that I would make is, as I said in my prepared remarks, customers see the value of having space committed. This is mission-critical infrastructure for our customer supply chain.
Speaker #4: We talked about the growth that we've seen in that over the last several quarters. Despite the challenging environment, we know 2026 is an outsized year for renewals.
Speaker #4: The first point that I would make is, as I said in my prepared remarks, customers see the value of having space committed. This is mission-critical infrastructure for our customer supply chain.
Speaker #4: So the concerns really are not around the customers not seeing the value from fixed commitments and are they stepping away from those. Entirely, that is not at all what we're seeing.
Rob Chambers: So the concerns really are not around the customers not see the value from fixed commitments, and are they stepping away from those entirely? That is not at all what we're seeing. We're seeing a very high retention rate of our customers who sign up for these types of agreements. And instead, what we're seeing is more of a tightening up of the gap between physical and economic occupancy. So, you know, if a customer's signed up for 20,000 pallets and they're using, you know, 12,000 instead of renewing at 20, they might renew at 17 or 15. That's more of what we're seeing. And so we've chopped a lot of wood.
Rob Chambers: So the concerns really are not around the customers not see the value from fixed commitments, and are they stepping away from those entirely? That is not at all what we're seeing. We're seeing a very high retention rate of our customers who sign up for these types of agreements. And instead, what we're seeing is more of a tightening up of the gap between physical and economic occupancy. So, you know, if a customer's signed up for 20,000 pallets and they're using, you know, 12,000 instead of renewing at 20, they might renew at 17 or 15. That's more of what we're seeing. And so we've chopped a lot of wood.
Speaker #4: We're seeing a very high retention rate of our customers who sign up for these types of agreements. And instead, what we're seeing is more of a tightening up of the gap between physical and economic occupancy.
Speaker #4: So if a customer's signed up for 20,000 pallets and they're using 12,000 instead of renewing at 20, they might renew at 17 or 15.
Speaker #4: That's more of what we're seeing. And so we've chopped a lot of wood. We get after these very early in terms of how the discussions in terms of how these are going to renew.
Rob Chambers: We get after these very early in terms of how, you know, the discussions in terms of how these are gonna renew. So we've incorporated the expectations for what we think will happen with these contracts into our guide of flat to down 300%, or flat to down 300 basis points on economic occupancy. That's our expectation, and that is informed by what we've seen thus far in the contract renewals. Great. Thank you.
Rob Chambers: We get after these very early in terms of how, you know, the discussions in terms of how these are gonna renew. So we've incorporated the expectations for what we think will happen with these contracts into our guide of flat to down 300%, or flat to down 300 basis points on economic occupancy. That's our expectation, and that is informed by what we've seen thus far in the contract renewals. Great. Thank you.
Speaker #4: And so we've incorporated the expectations for what we think will happen with these contracts into our guide of flat to down 300% or flat to down 300 basis points on economic occupancy.
Speaker #4: That's our expectation, and that is informed by what we've seen thus far in the contract renewals.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Speaker #5: Hi. Thanks. I wanted to follow up on the potential transaction or possible joint venture that you're discussing. I understand one of the primary objectives is to reduce leverage and you also mentioned that no unannounced transaction activity is assumed in guidance.
Todd Thomas: Hi, thanks. I wanted to follow up on the potential transaction or possible joint venture that you're discussing. I understand one of the primary objectives is to reduce leverage, and you also mentioned that no unannounced transaction activity is assumed in guidance. But I'm just curious how we should think about the potential earnings dilution that you might be willing to tolerate, and maybe you could just talk a little bit about that in terms of, you know, potential-
Todd Thomas: Hi, thanks. I wanted to follow up on the potential transaction or possible joint venture that you're discussing. I understand one of the primary objectives is to reduce leverage, and you also mentioned that no unannounced transaction activity is assumed in guidance. But I'm just curious how we should think about the potential earnings dilution that you might be willing to tolerate, and maybe you could just talk a little bit about that in terms of, you know, potential-
Speaker #5: But I'm just curious how we should think about the potential earnings dilution that you might be willing to tolerate and maybe you could just talk a little bit about that in terms of potential pricing or whether you expect to be able to transact in a non-dilutive manner how we should start thinking about that.
Scott Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Scott Henderson: Mm-hmm.
Todd Thomas: you know, pricing or whether you expect to be able to transact in a non-dilutive manner, you know, how we should, you know, start thinking about that.
Todd Thomas: you know, pricing or whether you expect to be able to transact in a non-dilutive manner, you know, how we should, you know, start thinking about that.
Speaker #6: Hey, Todd. It's Scott. Thanks for the question. I think at this point, we're not prepared to provide that level of detail around a potential transaction.
Scott Henderson: Hey, Todd, it's Scott. Thanks for the question. I think at this point, we're not prepared to provide that level of detail around a potential transaction. But as was said in the prepared remarks, we will likely have more detail to come in the around mid-year.
Scott Henderson: Hey, Todd, it's Scott. Thanks for the question. I think at this point, we're not prepared to provide that level of detail around a potential transaction. But as was said in the prepared remarks, we will likely have more detail to come in the around mid-year.
Speaker #6: But as was said in the prepared remarks, we will likely have more detail to come around mid-year.
Rob Chambers: We are encouraged-
Speaker #4: We are encouraged by the early conversations in terms of, certainly, the interest and the potential valuations. And while anytime you do a transaction like that, it will certainly impact kind of what our expectations are for the year.
Rob Chambers: We are encouraged-
Todd Thomas: Okay.
Todd Thomas: Okay.
Rob Chambers: By the, you know, we're encouraged by early conversations in terms of, you know, certainly the interest and the potential valuations. And, you know, while anytime you do a transaction like that, you know, it will certainly impact kind of what our expectations are for the year. I think in the long term, it absolutely is the right path forward for us.
Rob Chambers: By the, you know, we're encouraged by early conversations in terms of, you know, certainly the interest and the potential valuations. And, you know, while anytime you do a transaction like that, you know, it will certainly impact kind of what our expectations are for the year. I think in the long term, it absolutely is the right path forward for us.
Speaker #4: I think, in the long term, it absolutely is the right path forward for us.
Speaker #5: Okay. Maybe just following up on that. Are you expecting this to be sort of a single transaction, or sort of a series of transactions throughout the first half or throughout the year?
Todd Thomas: Okay. Maybe just following up on that. Are you expecting this to be, you know, sort of a single transaction or, you know, sort of a series of transactions throughout the first half or throughout the year?
Todd Thomas: Okay. Maybe just following up on that. Are you expecting this to be, you know, sort of a single transaction or, you know, sort of a series of transactions throughout the first half or throughout the year?
Scott Henderson: Hey, hey, Todd, it's Scott. You know, at this point, we're evaluating a handful of different things, and I think it'd be better for us to comment on that around the announcement.
Scott Henderson: Hey, hey, Todd, it's Scott. You know, at this point, we're evaluating a handful of different things, and I think it'd be better for us to comment on that around the announcement.
Speaker #6: Hey, Todd. It's Scott. At this point, we're evaluating a handful of different things and I think it'd be better for us to comment on that around the announcement.
Speaker #5: All right. Thank you.
Todd Thomas: All right. Thank you.
Todd Thomas: All right. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Blaine Hack with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.
Speaker #7: Great. Thanks. Good morning. Can you just give us your thoughts on the current supply picture and excess capacity throughout the cold storage market in the US, Europe, and Asia?
Blaine Heck: Great. Thanks. Good morning. Can you just give us your, your thoughts on the current supply picture and excess capacity throughout the cold storage market in the US, Europe, and Asia, and, and maybe, you know, in your target markets specifically?
Blaine Heck: Great. Thanks. Good morning. Can you just give us your, your thoughts on the current supply picture and excess capacity throughout the cold storage market in the US, Europe, and Asia, and, and maybe, you know, in your target markets specifically?
Speaker #7: And maybe in your target markets specifically.
Speaker #4: Sure. Thanks. Yeah. Certainly, where we've seen the excess supply has been largely in the US. So the same supply dynamics really have not been experienced in our European business or in the Asia-Pac business.
Rob Chambers: Sure. Thanks. Yeah, so certainly where we've seen the excess supply has, has been, uh, largely in the US. So, you know, the, the same supply dynamics really have not, been experienced in, in our European business or in the Asia Pacific business. It's heavily concentrated in the US. And then further, as we've said, if, if we were to, to look kind of by the nodes, which I think is a great way to look at the business, you would see most of the incremental supply then in the four distribution locations, followed, relatively closely by the, the port locations.
Rob Chambers: Sure. Thanks. Yeah, so certainly where we've seen the excess supply has, has been, uh, largely in the US. So, you know, the, the same supply dynamics really have not, been experienced in, in our European business or in the Asia Pacific business. It's heavily concentrated in the US. And then further, as we've said, if, if we were to, to look kind of by the nodes, which I think is a great way to look at the business, you would see most of the incremental supply then in the four distribution locations, followed, relatively closely by the, the port locations.
Speaker #4: It's heavily concentrated in the US. And then further, as we've said, if we were to look kind of by the nodes, which I think is a great way to look at the business, you would see most of the incremental supply has been in the four distribution locations followed relatively closely by the port locations.
Rob Chambers: You know, I think we remain consistent in the view that over the last few years, it's you know, in excess of 15% of incremental capacity that's been added, mainly by, you know, a lot of new market entrants whose, you know, business model is to get a little bit of scale and then try to transact. And I think, you know, that business model is really not one that has come to fruition, like a lot of those folks would have liked. We know from discussions that many of those new facilities with new market entrants are not performing to their original underwriting, in large part because of occupancy that's just not there for them.
Rob Chambers: You know, I think we remain consistent in the view that over the last few years, it's you know, in excess of 15% of incremental capacity that's been added, mainly by, you know, a lot of new market entrants whose, you know, business model is to get a little bit of scale and then try to transact. And I think, you know, that business model is really not one that has come to fruition, like a lot of those folks would have liked. We know from discussions that many of those new facilities with new market entrants are not performing to their original underwriting, in large part because of occupancy that's just not there for them.
Speaker #4: I think we remain consistent in the view that over the last few years, it's an excess of 15% of incremental capacity that's been added.
Speaker #4: Mainly by a lot of new market entrants whose business model is to get a little bit of scale and then try to transact. And I think that business model is really not one that has come to fruition like a lot of those folks would have liked.
Speaker #4: We know from discussions that many of those new facilities with new market entrants are not performing to their original underwriting in large part because of occupancy that's just not there for them.
Rob Chambers: We in fact are, you know, continuing to see customers who, you know, have not necessarily liked the experience with some of these small new market providers coming back to Americold, which is a great sign. So I do think we are past the peak deliveries of what we've seen these last few years in terms of new capacity. Announcements have slowed down materially. There are a few new deliveries still happening this year on previously announced projects, but, you know, we're encouraged to see new announcements slow. I think a lot of folks have probably learned a lesson about what it takes to be successful in this business, and you know, why Americold is an industry leader.
Speaker #4: We, in fact, are continuing to see customers who have not necessarily liked the experience with some of these small new market providers coming back to AmeriCold, which is a great sign.
Rob Chambers: We in fact are, you know, continuing to see customers who, you know, have not necessarily liked the experience with some of these small new market providers coming back to Americold, which is a great sign. So I do think we are past the peak deliveries of what we've seen these last few years in terms of new capacity. Announcements have slowed down materially. There are a few new deliveries still happening this year on previously announced projects, but, you know, we're encouraged to see new announcements slow. I think a lot of folks have probably learned a lesson about what it takes to be successful in this business, and you know, why Americold is an industry leader.
Speaker #4: So I do think we are past the peak deliveries of what we've seen these last few years in terms of new capacity. Announcements have slowed down.
Speaker #4: Materially, there are a few new deliveries still happening this year on previously announced projects. But we're encouraged to see new announcements slow. I think a lot of folks have probably learned a lesson about what it takes to be successful in this business.
Speaker #4: And why AmeriCold is an industry leader.
Blaine Heck: Just to clarify, is that 15% of excess capacity based on square footage or cubic feet?
Speaker #7: And just to clarify, is that 15% of excess capacity based on square footage or cubic feet?
Blaine Heck: Just to clarify, is that 15% of excess capacity based on square footage or cubic feet?
Rob Chambers: We would actually view it more on Pallet Positions.
Speaker #4: We would actually view it more on pallet positions.
Rob Chambers: We would actually view it more on Pallet Positions.
Speaker #7: Got it. Thank you.
Blaine Heck: Got it. Thank you.
Blaine Heck: Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Speaker #8: Yep. Thanks. Scott, I wanted to circle back on your comments in the prepared remarks about cold consolidating its business and mothballing some of the underperforming warehouses.
Michael Carroll: Yeah, thanks. Scott, I wanted to circle back on your comments in the prepared remarks about Americold consolidating its business and mothballing some of the underperforming warehouses. Can you give us an idea of how many warehouses were mothballed in 2025, and what could happen in 2026? And related to that, is that the reason why the new same-store pool is dropping to 215 warehouses from the current pool of 219 warehouses?
Michael Carroll: Yeah, thanks. Scott, I wanted to circle back on your comments in the prepared remarks about Americold consolidating its business and mothballing some of the underperforming warehouses. Can you give us an idea of how many warehouses were mothballed in 2025, and what could happen in 2026? And related to that, is that the reason why the new same-store pool is dropping to 215 warehouses from the current pool of 219 warehouses?
Speaker #8: Can you give us an idea of how many warehouses were mothballed in 2025, and what could happen in 2026? And related to that, is that the reason why the new same-store pool is dropping to 215 warehouses from the current pool of 219 warehouses?
Scott Henderson: Sure. Thanks. Thanks, Mike. To answer your, your question around 2025, we either exit or idled approximately, approximately 10 assets in 2025. As we look to 2026, we, as I said on the call, we had 9 identified, 2, we've already taken action around in the first quarter. And so if you want to bridge- to the, to what, page 29, which is the, which is the new same-store of 215. The old same-store was 219.
Speaker #6: Sure. Thanks, Mike. To answer your question around 2025, we either exit or idle approximately 10 assets in 2025 as we look to 2026. We, as I said on the call, we had nine identified, two we've already taken action around in the first quarter.
Scott Henderson: Sure. Thanks. Thanks, Mike. To answer your, your question around 2025, we either exit or idled approximately, approximately 10 assets in 2025. As we look to 2026, we, as I said on the call, we had 9 identified, 2, we've already taken action around in the first quarter. And so if you want to bridge- to the, to what, page 29, which is the, which is the new same-store of 215. The old same-store was 219.
Speaker #6: And so if you want to bridge to the page 29, which is the new same store of 215, the old same store was 219.
Speaker #6: So the bridge there is—let me get that exact map for you, Mike. We're taking out seven assets, which I just mentioned, that we're taking action on in 2026.
Scott Henderson: So the bridge, let me get that exact math for you, Mike, is we're taking out 7 assets, which I just mentioned, that we're taking action on in 2026, and then you add in the 3 managed assets, so that lands you at 215. So 219 minus 7 plus 3 gets you to 215. And a quick call out on the managed. The managed revenue actually will show up in the services part of that PNL on page 29, and the pallets will show up through the throughput.
Scott Henderson: So the bridge, let me get that exact math for you, Mike, is we're taking out 7 assets, which I just mentioned, that we're taking action on in 2026, and then you add in the 3 managed assets, so that lands you at 215. So 219 minus 7 plus 3 gets you to 215. And a quick call out on the managed. The managed revenue actually will show up in the services part of that PNL on page 29, and the pallets will show up through the throughput.
Speaker #6: And then you add in the three managed assets, so that lands you at 215. So 219 minus 7 plus 3 gets you to 215.
Speaker #6: And a quick call out on the managed via managed revenue actually will show up in the services part of that P&L on page 29.
Speaker #6: And the pallets will show up through the throughput.
Speaker #8: Okay. Great. Thanks.
Operator: Okay, great. Thanks.
Michael Carroll: Okay, great. Thanks.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Michael Muller with XLNT. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Mike Muller with XLNT. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Mike Muller with XLNT. Please proceed.
Mike Mueller: Is that me, out of curiosity?
Speaker #7: Is that me? Out of curiosity.
Mike Mueller: Is that me, out of curiosity?
Speaker #6: Yeah, yeah, Mike. Mike, go ahead. Yep.
Scott Henderson: Yeah.
Scott Henderson: Yeah.
Operator: Mike Muller.
Operator: Mike Muller.
Scott Henderson: Yeah, Mike, Mike,
Scott Henderson: Yeah, Mike, Mike,
Mike Mueller: Okay.
Mike Mueller: Okay.
Scott Henderson: Go ahead. Yep.
Scott Henderson: Go ahead. Yep.
Speaker #7: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sorry about that. I guess as a follow-up to that question, how material or not could the occupancy lift from selling or idling the nine sites that you just talked about?
Mike Mueller: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Sorry about that. I guess as a follow-up to that question, how material or not could the occupancy lift from selling or idling the 9 sites that you just talked about? How material could that be? And then, also, like, the new complementary use initiatives that you're going after, like, how much - how should we think of in terms of the occupancy lift potential coming from those, so those two buckets there?
Mike Mueller: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Sorry about that. I guess as a follow-up to that question, how material or not could the occupancy lift from selling or idling the 9 sites that you just talked about? How material could that be? And then, also, like, the new complementary use initiatives that you're going after, like, how much - how should we think of in terms of the occupancy lift potential coming from those, so those two buckets there?
Speaker #7: How material could that be? And then also, the new complementary use initiatives that you're going after, how should we think of in terms of the occupancy lift potential coming from those?
Speaker #7: So those two buckets there.
Speaker #6: Yeah. I mean, if we thought about in the let me think about it in terms of the fourth quarter. So in the fourth quarter, that 280 basis point occupancy lift really about 100 of that was related to the seasonal harvest, which is kind of what we talked about last year.
Rob Chambers: Yeah, I mean, if we thought about it. Let me think about it in terms of the fourth quarter. So in the fourth quarter, that 280 basis points, you know, occupancy lift really, you know, about 100 of that was related to the seasonal harvest, which is kind of what we talked about last year. You have about 100 basis points increase from some of the portfolio management initiatives that we've been taking, and the rest, that 80 basis points increase was really from, you know, new business opportunities that kind of came to fruition in the fourth quarter. So, you know, that would be the impact for Q4.
Rob Chambers: Yeah, I mean, if we thought about it. Let me think about it in terms of the fourth quarter. So in the fourth quarter, that 280 basis points, you know, occupancy lift really, you know, about 100 of that was related to the seasonal harvest, which is kind of what we talked about last year. You have about 100 basis points increase from some of the portfolio management initiatives that we've been taking, and the rest, that 80 basis points increase was really from, you know, new business opportunities that kind of came to fruition in the fourth quarter. So, you know, that would be the impact for Q4.
Speaker #6: You have about a 100 basis point increase from some of the portfolio management initiatives that we've been taking. And the rest, that 80 basis point increase, was really from new business opportunities that kind of came to fruition in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #6: So that would be the impact for Q4. I'm not sure quite frankly if we have it broken out for how to think about it in 2026.
Rob Chambers: I'm not sure, quite frankly, if we have it broken out, but for how to think about it, in 2026.
Rob Chambers: I'm not sure, quite frankly, if we have it broken out, but for how to think about it, in 2026.
Speaker #7: Okay. Thanks.
Mike Mueller: Okay, thanks.
Mike Mueller: Okay, thanks.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Vince Tebone with Green Street. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Vince Tobon with Green Street. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Vince Tobon with Green Street. Please proceed.
Speaker #9: Hi. Good morning. I was hoping to unpack the non-same store guide a little bit for NOI. It looks like it's around 50 million. It's the midpoint.
Vince Tibone: Hi, good morning. I was hoping to unpack the non same-store guide a little bit for NOI, which it looks like it's around $50 million at the midpoint. If you could kind of just unpack the difference between, like, the transportation and managed segment, which was, like, about $40 million of NOI last year, versus, you know, additional development leasing. What I'm really trying to get at is how much, you know, incremental development stabilization is incorporated in the guidance, and if there's anything, you know, on that transportation line and third-party line that's, you know, any volatility there we should be aware of.
Vince Tibone: Hi, good morning. I was hoping to unpack the non same-store guide a little bit for NOI, which it looks like it's around $50 million at the midpoint. If you could kind of just unpack the difference between, like, the transportation and managed segment, which was, like, about $40 million of NOI last year, versus, you know, additional development leasing. What I'm really trying to get at is how much, you know, incremental development stabilization is incorporated in the guidance, and if there's anything, you know, on that transportation line and third-party line that's, you know, any volatility there we should be aware of.
Speaker #9: If you could kind of just unpack the difference between the transportation and managed segment, which is about 40 million of NOI last year versus additional development leasing.
Speaker #9: What I'm really trying to get at is just how much incremental development, stabilization is incorporated in the guidance. And if there's anything on that transportation line and third-party line that's any volatility there, which would be aware of.
Speaker #6: Sure. Hey, Vince. Good morning. It's Scott. Thanks for the question. Let me help you bridge that. So when you look at our when you look at our new same store guide, the mid is 760 million.
Scott Henderson: Sure. Hey, Vince, good morning. It's Scott. Thanks for the question. Let me help you bridge that. So, when you look at our new Same-Store guide, the mid is $760 million, okay? And as I mentioned, that now includes our managed NOI segment that is now getting rolled into that. So the $760, and again, when you're building your model, look at page 29 of the IR sup, which shows that our updated Same-Store pool being recapped to 2025. So the $760 is on that same-store pool on page 29, which includes the managed. Okay? If you then think about our... We gave you a total NOI guide at the mid, which was $813 million, okay?
Scott Henderson: Sure. Hey, Vince, good morning. It's Scott. Thanks for the question. Let me help you bridge that. So, when you look at our new Same-Store guide, the mid is $760 million, okay? And as I mentioned, that now includes our managed NOI segment that is now getting rolled into that. So the $760, and again, when you're building your model, look at page 29 of the IR sup, which shows that our updated Same-Store pool being recapped to 2025. So the $760 is on that same-store pool on page 29, which includes the managed. Okay? If you then think about our... We gave you a total NOI guide at the mid, which was $813 million, okay?
Speaker #6: Okay? And as I mentioned, that now includes our managed NOI segment that is now getting rolled into that. So, the $760 million—and again, when you're building your model, look at page 29 of the IR supplement, which shows our updated same-store pool being recast to 2025.
Speaker #6: So the 760 is on that same store pool on 2029, which includes the managed. Okay? If you then think about our we gave you a total NOI guide.
Speaker #6: At the mid, which was 813. Okay? So 813 is total NOI. And if you take 813 minus 60, that gives you a number. But remember, trans is also in that number.
Scott Henderson: So $813 is total NOI, and if you take $813 minus $60, that gives you a number. But remember, trans is also in that number. If you assume trans is roughly flat at $31, so you take $813 minus $760 minus $31, gets you the non same-store pool at the mid of around $20 billion. So, I'll stop there, Vince, but I just wanted to bridge that math for you.
Scott Henderson: So $813 is total NOI, and if you take $813 minus $60, that gives you a number. But remember, trans is also in that number. If you assume trans is roughly flat at $31, so you take $813 minus $760 minus $31, gets you the non same-store pool at the mid of around $20 billion. So, I'll stop there, Vince, but I just wanted to bridge that math for you.
Speaker #6: If you assume trans is roughly flat at 31, so you take 813 minus 760 minus 31 gets you the non-same store pool at the mid of around 20 million.
Speaker #6: So I'll stop there, Vince, but I just wanted to bridge that math for you.
Speaker #7: No, that's helpful. The managed segment that we had about 9 million of NOI, that's now in the warehouse segment, correct? So it sounds like there's 20 million in whether it's the Houston acquisition last year and additional development stabilization.
Vince Tibone: No, that's all. The managed segment that, like, we had about $9 million of NOI, that's now in the warehouse segment, correct?
Vince Tibone: No, that's all. The managed segment that, like, we had about $9 million of NOI, that's now in the warehouse segment, correct?
Scott Henderson: Yep.
Scott Henderson: Yep.
Vince Tibone: So I just want... It sounds like there's $20 million in, whether it's the Houston acquisition last year-
Vince Tibone: So I just want... It sounds like there's $20 million in, whether it's the Houston acquisition last year-
Scott Henderson: Yep.
Scott Henderson: Yep.
Vince Tibone: - and additional development stabilization.
Vince Tibone: - and additional development stabilization.
Speaker #7: I just wanted to confirm what's in that remaining 20 million. Is that a fair categorization?
Scott Henderson: That's right.
Scott Henderson: That's right.
Vince Tibone: I just want to confirm what's in that remaining $20 million. Is that a fair categorization?
Vince Tibone: I just want to confirm what's in that remaining $20 million. Is that a fair categorization?
Scott Henderson: That's right. That's right. That's right, Mike. And that, that squares, that's the developments that are ramping up, that's the assets in the non-same-store pool, and then that's things like the Houston acquisition, all in that $20 million, roughly. I quoted you $22 million, but $20 million at the mid of the non-same-store pool.
Scott Henderson: That's right. That's right. That's right, Mike. And that, that squares, that's the developments that are ramping up, that's the assets in the non-same-store pool, and then that's things like the Houston acquisition, all in that $20 million, roughly. I quoted you $22 million, but $20 million at the mid of the non-same-store pool.
Speaker #6: That's right. That's right. That's right, Mike. In that squares, that's the developments that are ramping up. That's the assets in the non-same store pool.
Speaker #6: And then that's things like the Houston acquisition. All in that 20 million roughly. I quoted you 22, but 20 million at the mid of the non-same store pool.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you. It's very maybe squeezing one follow-up. I know the focus is obviously on economic occupancy, but do you think physical occupancy has effectively bottomed here on a seasonally adjusted basis on a for a full year, do you think you could actually see flat or even growing physical occupancy trends?
Vince Tibone: Great. Thank you. If I can maybe squeeze in one follow-up. I know, you know, the focus is obviously on economic occupancy, but do you think physical occupancy has effectively bottomed here on a seasonally adjusted basis? Like, on a, you know, for full year, do you think, you know, you could actually see flat or even growing physical occupancy trends, you know, on a full year-full year basis?
Vince Tibone: Great. Thank you. If I can maybe squeeze in one follow-up. I know, you know, the focus is obviously on economic occupancy, but do you think physical occupancy has effectively bottomed here on a seasonally adjusted basis? Like, on a, you know, for full year, do you think, you know, you could actually see flat or even growing physical occupancy trends, you know, on a full year-full year basis?
Speaker #7: On a full-year, full-year basis.
Rob Chambers: ... We do, Vince. I mean, we think flat's the right way to think about it, but we think physical occupancy is stabilized. You know, our customers have right-sized their inventory to meet the current demand levels. You know, should there be a sustained increase in some demand, we think they'd have to increase their physical occupancy in order to meet their service requirements to the retailers, but that's not what we've assumed in our guide.
Rob Chambers: ... We do, Vince. I mean, we think flat's the right way to think about it, but we think physical occupancy is stabilized. You know, our customers have right-sized their inventory to meet the current demand levels. You know, should there be a sustained increase in some demand, we think they'd have to increase their physical occupancy in order to meet their service requirements to the retailers, but that's not what we've assumed in our guide.
Speaker #6: We do, Vince. I mean, I think flat's the right way to think about it. But we think physical occupancy is stabilized. Our customers have right-sized their inventory to meet the current demand levels.
Speaker #6: Should there be a sustained increase in some demand, we think they'd have to increase their physical occupancy in order to meet their service requirements to the retailers.
Speaker #6: But that's not what we've assumed in our guide.
Speaker #7: Perfect. Thank you.
Operator: Perfect. Thank you.
Vince Tibone: Perfect. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Nick Sealman with Baird. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Nick Zilman with Baird. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Nick Zilman with Baird. Please proceed.
Nick Thillman: Hey, good morning. Maybe following up on this cost structure and you guys eliminating some of the indirect labor associated with that. As we evaluate your North America versus just international portfolio, when you're doing this sort of review, is there any material difference as you look on, like, a facility level basis on how the cost structure is in those international assets and maybe the G&A overhead associated with that when you compare it to, like, North America?
Nick Thillman: Hey, good morning. Maybe following up on this cost structure and you guys eliminating some of the indirect labor associated with that. As we evaluate your North America versus just international portfolio, when you're doing this sort of review, is there any material difference as you look on, like, a facility level basis on how the cost structure is in those international assets and maybe the G&A overhead associated with that when you compare it to, like, North America?
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning. Maybe following up on this cost structure and you guys eliminating some of the indirect labor associated with that. As we evaluate your North America versus just international portfolio, when you're doing this sort of review, is there any material difference as you look at a facility-level basis on how the cost structure is in those international assets and maybe the GMA overhead associated with that when you compare it to North America?
Rob Chambers: So what I would say is, our European portfolio and our North America portfolio are pretty consistent. I think in terms of indirect labor, if I were to look at our Asia Pacific portfolio, we do skew a little more heavily towards retail in operations. So, you know, you're gonna have probably more services revenue and more labor, both direct and indirect, you know, kind of as a percentage of revenue than what you would see in the US, which is more, you know, balanced between kind of pallet in, pallet out manufacturer business and retail business.
Speaker #6: So what I would say is our European portfolio and our North America portfolio are pretty consistent. I think, in terms of indirect labor, if I were to look at our Asia-Pacific portfolio, we do skew a little more heavily towards retail operations.
Rob Chambers: So what I would say is, our European portfolio and our North America portfolio are pretty consistent. I think in terms of indirect labor, if I were to look at our Asia Pacific portfolio, we do skew a little more heavily towards retail in operations. So, you know, you're gonna have probably more services revenue and more labor, both direct and indirect, you know, kind of as a percentage of revenue than what you would see in the US, which is more, you know, balanced between kind of pallet in, pallet out manufacturer business and retail business.
Speaker #6: So you're going to have probably more services revenue and more labor both direct and indirect. Kind of as a percentage of revenue than what you would see in the US, which is more balanced between kind of pallet in, pallet out, manufacturer business, and retail business.
Speaker #6: From a G&A standpoint, I think as we look at our European business, given that it's not scaled yet as significantly as we have in North America, or Asia-Pac, you might see a slightly higher percentage there if you were looking at it as a percentage of revenue.
Rob Chambers: From a G&A standpoint, you know, I think as we look at our European business, given that it's not, you know, scaled yet as significantly as we have in North America or Asia Pacific, you might see a slightly higher percentage, you know, there, if you were looking at it as a percentage of revenue, but, but not major fluctuations, you know, across any of the three geographies, to be honest with you, besides some of those nuances, Nick.
Rob Chambers: From a G&A standpoint, you know, I think as we look at our European business, given that it's not, you know, scaled yet as significantly as we have in North America or Asia Pacific, you might see a slightly higher percentage, you know, there, if you were looking at it as a percentage of revenue, but, but not major fluctuations, you know, across any of the three geographies, to be honest with you, besides some of those nuances, Nick.
Speaker #6: But not major fluctuations across any of the three geographies, to be honest with you, besides some of those nuances, Nick.
Speaker #7: Helpful. Thanks, Ron.
Nick Thillman: Helpful. Thanks, Rob.
Nick Thillman: Helpful. Thanks, Rob.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question is from Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Please proceed.
Speaker #7: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe you can just give us some color on how you and the board are thinking about the dividend policy, given your deleveraging plans and other capital allocation considerations.
Brendan Lynch: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe you can just give us some color on how you and the board are thinking about the dividend policy, given your deleveraging plans and other capital allocation considerations?
Brendan Lynch: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe you can just give us some color on how you and the board are thinking about the dividend policy, given your deleveraging plans and other capital allocation considerations?
Speaker #6: Yeah. It's mission-critical for us. We as we've said at NARED and on prior calls, we want to maintain our investment-grade rating, and we want to maintain our dividend.
Rob Chambers: Yeah, it's mission critical for us. We, you know, as we've said at NAREIT and on prior calls, you know, we wanna maintain our Investment Grade Rating, and we wanna maintain our dividend. We know how important that is. And so, you know, we're focused on capital allocation and deleveraging events that allow us to do both of those things and think about, you know, the right way to fund kind of a much more rationalized development portfolio.
Rob Chambers: Yeah, it's mission critical for us. We, you know, as we've said at NAREIT and on prior calls, you know, we wanna maintain our Investment Grade Rating, and we wanna maintain our dividend. We know how important that is. And so, you know, we're focused on capital allocation and deleveraging events that allow us to do both of those things and think about, you know, the right way to fund kind of a much more rationalized development portfolio.
Speaker #6: We know how important that is. And so we're focused on capital allocation and deleveraging events that allow us to do both of those things, and think about the right way to fund kind of a much more rationalized development portfolio.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you very much.
Brendan Lynch: Great. Thank you very much.
Brendan Lynch: Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #8: Hey, guys. I'd like to just go back over what's in the same store and what's in the non-same store on a go-forward basis there's been a few questions that come in on it.
Scott Henderson: Hey, guys, I'd like to just go back over what's in the same-store and what's in the non-same-store on a go-forward basis. There's been a few questions that come in on it, so I'd like to maybe take a shot at walking everyone through it again. If you think about... I just ask you to refer to page 29, which is our new same-store pool. What's in the new same-store pool now, we are also consolidating our managed business. Our managed business has had three assets in it that are now part of that 215.
Scott Henderson: Hey, guys, I'd like to just go back over what's in the same-store and what's in the non-same-store on a go-forward basis. There's been a few questions that come in on it, so I'd like to maybe take a shot at walking everyone through it again. If you think about... I just ask you to refer to page 29, which is our new same-store pool. What's in the new same-store pool now, we are also consolidating our managed business. Our managed business has had three assets in it that are now part of that 215.
Speaker #8: So I'd like to maybe take a shot at walking everyone through it again. If you think about it, just to ask you to refer to page 29, which is our new same-store pool.
Speaker #8: What's in the new same-store pool now? We are also consolidating our managed business. Our managed business had three assets in it that are now part of that 215.
Speaker #8: So when you look at the same-store pool for 2025, which was 219, you remove the seven assets I mentioned on the call, and then you add back in the three managed assets.
Scott Henderson: So when you look at the same-store pool for this for 2025, which was 219, you remove the 7 assets I mentioned on the call, and then you add back in the 3 managed assets, that gets you to the 215. When you think about the managed revenue in NOI, it shows up. It'll show up under the services revenue and services NOI on that same-store pool page on 29. And when you think about how to get to the non-same-store pool number, again, we guided for the same-store at $760. The $760, as a reminder, again, includes these 3 managed assets in that NOI.
Scott Henderson: So when you look at the same-store pool for this for 2025, which was 219, you remove the 7 assets I mentioned on the call, and then you add back in the 3 managed assets, that gets you to the 215. When you think about the managed revenue in NOI, it shows up. It'll show up under the services revenue and services NOI on that same-store pool page on 29. And when you think about how to get to the non-same-store pool number, again, we guided for the same-store at $760. The $760, as a reminder, again, includes these 3 managed assets in that NOI.
Speaker #8: That gets you to the 215. When you think about the managed revenue in NOI, it shows up. It'll show up under the services revenue.
Speaker #8: And services NOI on that same store pool page on 29, and when you think about how to get to the non-same school store pool number, again, we guided for the same store, it's 760.
Speaker #8: The $760 million, as a reminder, again, includes these three managed assets in that NOI. Then, if you think about the guide for the full company NOI, it was $813 million.
Scott Henderson: We then, if you think about, the guide for the full company NOI, it was $813 million. $813 million less $760, leaves you $53 million. But in that $53 million is also trans, because that's part of our total company NOI. You'll assume trans flat at $31 million. You, you, you back that out, and the residual is $22 million, which is our non-same store pool bucket.
Scott Henderson: We then, if you think about, the guide for the full company NOI, it was $813 million. $813 million less $760, leaves you $53 million. But in that $53 million is also trans, because that's part of our total company NOI. You'll assume trans flat at $31 million. You, you, you back that out, and the residual is $22 million, which is our non-same store pool bucket.
Speaker #8: 813 million, less 760, leaves you 53 million. But in that 53 million is also trans because that's part of our total company NOI. You'll assume trans flat at 31 million.
Speaker #8: You back that out, and the residual is 22 million dollars, which is our non-same store pool bucket. So the three buckets are 760 million of same store, which now includes managed.
Scott Henderson: So the three buckets are $760 million of same-store, which now includes managed, $22 million of non-same-store pool, which is our de- assets ramping up in development in M&A, the one M&A deal, and then lastly, approximately $31 million in trans NOI, and you add all that up, and that gets you to the $813 million at the mid of total NOI. So hopefully that addresses everyone's questions around that.
Scott Henderson: So the three buckets are $760 million of same-store, which now includes managed, $22 million of non-same-store pool, which is our de- assets ramping up in development in M&A, the one M&A deal, and then lastly, approximately $31 million in trans NOI, and you add all that up, and that gets you to the $813 million at the mid of total NOI. So hopefully that addresses everyone's questions around that.
Speaker #8: 22 million of non-same store pool, which is our assets ramping up in development in M&A, the one M&A deal. And then lastly, approximately 31 million in trans NOI.
Speaker #8: And you add all that up, and that gets you to the 813 at the mid of total NOI. So hopefully, that addresses everyone's questions around that.
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Operator: Thank you. With no further questions at this time, this will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.