Q4 2025 Orion Earnings Call

February 17, 2026

Speaker #1: Greetings. Welcome to the Orion SA Q4 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants will be in listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Operator: Greetings. Welcome to the Orion S.A. Q4 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants will be in listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero from your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I'll now hand the conference over to Chris Kapsch, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may now begin.

Speaker #1: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 from your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I'll now hand the conference over to Chris Kapsch, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: Thank you. You may now begin.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Rob. Good morning, everyone. This is Chris Kapsch, VP of Investor Relations at Orion. And welcome to our conference call to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings results.

Corning Painter: Thank you, Rob. Good morning, everyone. This is Chris Kapsch, VP of Investor Relations at Orion, and welcome to our conference call to discuss our Q4 and full year 2025 earnings results. Joining our call are Corning Painter, Orion's Chief Executive Officer, and Jon Puckett, our Chief Financial Officer. We issued our Q4 results this morning, and we have posted a slide presentation to the investor relations portion of our website. We will be referencing this deck during the call. Before we begin, we are obligated to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties as described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and our actual results may differ from those described during the call.

Chris Kapsch: Thank you, Rob. Good morning, everyone. This is Chris Kapsch, VP of Investor Relations at Orion, and welcome to our conference call to discuss our Q4 and full year 2025 earnings results. Joining our call are Corning Painter, Orion's Chief Executive Officer, and Jon Puckett, our Chief Financial Officer. We issued our Q4 results this morning, and we have posted a slide presentation to the investor relations portion of our website.

Speaker #2: Joining our call are Corning Painter, Orion's Chief Executive Officer, and John Puckett, our Chief Financial Officer. We issued our fourth quarter results this morning, and we have posted the slide presentation to the Investor Relations portion of our website.

Speaker #2: We will be referencing this deck during the call. Before we begin, we are obligated to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are forward-looking statements.

Chris Kapsch: We will be referencing this deck during the call. Before we begin, we are obligated to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties as described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and our actual results may differ from those described during the call.

Speaker #2: These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties, as described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and are actually results may differ from those described during the call.

Speaker #2: In addition, all forward-looking statements are made as of today, February 17, 2026. Orion is not obligated to update any forward-looking statements based on new circumstances or revised expectations.

Corning Painter: In addition, all forward-looking statements are made as of today, 17 February 2026. Orion is not obligated to update any forward-looking statements based on new circumstances or revised expectations. All non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the tables attached to our press release and the quarterly earnings deck. Any non-GAAP financial measures presented in these materials should not be considered as alternatives to financial measures required by GAAP. With that, I will turn the call over to Corning. Good morning. Thank you, Chris, and thank you all for taking the time to join our conference call. Before getting into our Q4 review commentary, I'm excited to introduce our new Chief Financial Officer, Jon Puckett, who joined Orion in early December.

Chris Kapsch: In addition, all forward-looking statements are made as of today, 17 February 2026. Orion is not obligated to update any forward-looking statements based on new circumstances or revised expectations. All non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the tables attached to our press release and the quarterly earnings deck. Any non-GAAP financial measures presented in these materials should not be considered as alternatives to financial measures required by GAAP. With that, I will turn the call over to Corning.

Speaker #2: All non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call are reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the tables attached to our press release and the quarterly earnings deck.

Speaker #2: Any non-GAAP financial measures presented in these materials should not be considered as alternatives to financial measures required by GAAP. With that, I will turn the call over to Corning.

Speaker #3: Good morning. Thank you, Chris. And thank you all for taking the time to join our conference call. Before getting into our Q4 review commentary, I'm excited to introduce our new Chief Financial Officer, John Puckett, who joined Orion in early December.

Corning Painter: Good morning. Thank you, Chris, and thank you all for taking the time to join our conference call. Before getting into our Q4 review commentary, I'm excited to introduce our new Chief Financial Officer, Jon Puckett, who joined Orion in early December.

Speaker #3: John has over 30 years of financial leadership experience, including 14 years in the chemical industry. Some of you may know him from his tenure at Celanies, where he most recently served as Vice President and CFO of the Acetyl segment.

Corning Painter: John has over 30 years of financial leadership experience, including 14 years in the chemical industry. Some of you may know him from his tenure at Celanese, where he most recently served as Vice President and CFO of the Acetyl segment. John, it's, it's been a few months, but, welcome again to Orion. Moving to our results discussion, starting on slide 3. We finished 2025 with better Q4 results than we had contemplated early in November. The upside was primarily a function of higher volumes than customers had forecasted. In rubber, tire factory curtailments were not as pronounced as customers had indicated. A larger factor, however, was our specialty segment, where volume and mix were better than expected. I'm particularly pleased with our free cash flow of $55 million for the full year, thanks to a concerted effort from our team to drive working capital efficiencies.

Speaker #3: John, it's been a few months, but welcome again to Orion. Moving to our results discussion, starting on slide three, we finished 2025 with better Q4 results than we had contemplated early in November.

Speaker #3: The upside was primarily a function of higher volumes than customers had forecasted. In rubber, tire factory curtailments were not as pronounced as customers had indicated.

Corning Painter: In rubber, tire factory curtailments were not as pronounced as customers had indicated. A larger factor, however, was our specialty segment, where volume and mix were better than expected. I'm particularly pleased with our free cash flow of $55 million for the full year, thanks to a concerted effort from our team to drive working capital efficiencies.

Speaker #3: A larger factor, however, was our specialty segment, where volume and mix were better than expected. I'm particularly pleased with our free cash flow of $55 million for the full year.

Speaker #3: Thanks to a concerted effort from our team to drive working capital efficiencies. We will discuss in a moment why we expect positive free cash flow to continue in 2026 despite lower EBITDA levels.

Corning Painter: We will discuss in a moment why we expect positive free cash flow to continue in 2026, despite lower EBITDA levels. One of Orion's core values is our emphasis on safety, and 2025 was a near record year for employee safety within our company globally. With only 3 incidents across our network of plants, last year was the second-best year since Orion became a public company. Based on industry standard metrics, our performance was about 9 times better than the broader chemicals space. A huge congratulations to our team on this distinguished achievement. Moving to slide 4, and really for the next few slides, my intent here is to touch on 3 key points. First, what the industry has endured, leading to the guidance we've conveyed today.

Speaker #3: One of Orion's core values is our emphasis on safety, and 2025 was a near-record year for employee safety within our company globally. With only three incidents across our network of plants, last year was the second-best year since Orion became a public company.

Speaker #3: And based on industry standard metrics, our performance was about nine times better than the broader chemicals space. A huge congratulations to our team on this distinguished achievement.

Corning Painter: Based on industry standard metrics, our performance was about 9 times better than the broader chemicals space. A huge congratulations to our team on this distinguished achievement. Moving to slide 4, and really for the next few slides, my intent here is to touch on 3 key points. First, what the industry has endured, leading to the guidance we've conveyed today.

Speaker #3: Moving to slide four, and really for the next few slides, my intent here is to touch on three key points. First, what the industry has endured leading to the guidance we've conveyed today.

Speaker #3: Second, the actions we have taken to navigate these trough conditions including what is needed to ensure we deliver positive free cash flow this year, next year, and in the future.

Corning Painter: Second, the actions we have taken to navigate these trough conditions, including what is needed to ensure we deliver positive free cash flow this year, next year, and in the future. And third, tire industry data, which is indicating our business's fundamental drivers are setting up for recovery. On slide four, we recap a few dynamics that translated into a uniquely difficult backdrop for the carbon black industry in 2025, leading to challenging negotiations for 2026 supply rank agreements. We've talked for some time about the elevated imports of tires into key western regions. These generally persisted throughout the year, and some auto industry experts have argued that tariff uncertainty only magnified this surge throughout much of 2025. I will share encouraging data in a moment that suggests an inflection could now be at hand.

Speaker #3: And third, tire industry data which is indicating our business's fundamental drivers are setting up for recovery. On slide four, we recap a few dynamics that translated into uniquely difficult backdrop for the carbon black industry in 2025, leading to a challenging negotiations for 2026 supply agreements.

Corning Painter: On slide four, we recap a few dynamics that translated into a uniquely difficult backdrop for the carbon black industry in 2025, leading to challenging negotiations for 2026 supply rank agreements. We've talked for some time about the elevated imports of tires into key western regions. These generally persisted throughout the year, and some auto industry experts have argued that tariff uncertainty only magnified this surge throughout much of 2025. I will share encouraging data in a moment that suggests an inflection could now be at hand.

Speaker #3: We've talked for some time about the elevated imports of tires into key Western regions. These generally persisted throughout the year, and some auto industry experts have argued that tariff uncertainty only magnified this surge throughout much of 2025.

Speaker #3: I will share encouraging data in a moment that suggests an inflection could now be at hand. Part of what fueled the import surge was a lingering consumer response to higher inflation, resulting in a trade down to lower-value brands, which are mainly imported.

Corning Painter: Part of what fueled the import surge was a lingering consumer response to higher inflation, resulting in a trade down to lower value brands, which are mainly imported. We believe this trade-down has occurred in the truck and bus category as well, especially with smaller fleet operators. Encouragingly, industry trade journals have reported this trend reversing. In the past couple of months, Tier Two and Tier One tires outsold Tier Three brands for the first time last year. This trade-up reversion is a positive trend for our customers and more consistent with historical consumer preferences. Shifting from passenger car to truck tires, freight activity has been a drag for the tire industry for the past few years. This may surprise some on the call, but it's an important point.

Speaker #3: We believe this trade down has occurred in the truck and bus category as well, especially with smaller fleet operators. Encouragingly, industry trade journals have reported this trend reversing.

Speaker #3: In the past couple of months, Tier 2 and Tier 1 tires outsold Tier 3 brands for the first time last year. This trade-up reversion is a positive trend for our customers and more consistent with historical consumer preferences.

Corning Painter: This trade-up reversion is a positive trend for our customers and more consistent with historical consumer preferences. Shifting from passenger car to truck tires, freight activity has been a drag for the tire industry for the past few years. This may surprise some on the call, but it's an important point.

Speaker #3: Shifting from passenger car to truck tires, freight activity has been a drag for the tire industry for the past few years. This may surprise some on the call, but it's an important point.

Speaker #3: Truck and bus tires count for about one-third of all carbon black that is consumed in tire production globally. And more than 40% of the tire market in the Americas.

Corning Painter: Truck and bus tires account for about 1/3 of all carbon black that is consumed in tire production globally, and more than 40% of the tire market in the Americas. Of course, this suggests that the freight industry's recession has also been a headwind to the truck tire demand, and therefore, carbon black volumes. The specialty portion of the carbon black industry has been affected by persistently weak PMI. In addition, broad uncertainty has discouraged investment, encouraged lean inventories, and weighed on consumer confidence. Collectively, these soft demand conditions have been a significant factor in the carbon black industry's challenging contract negotiations. On Slide 5, we highlight the actions Orion has taken to ensure our resilience through today's conditions. We are relentlessly focused on managing costs.

Speaker #3: Of course, this suggests that the freight industry's recession has also been a headwind to the truck tire demand and therefore carbon black volumes. The specialty portion of the carbon black industry has been affected by persistently weak PMI.

Corning Painter: In addition, broad uncertainty has discouraged investment, encouraged lean inventories, and weighed on consumer confidence. Collectively, these soft demand conditions have been a significant factor in the carbon black industry's challenging contract negotiations. On Slide 5, we highlight the actions Orion has taken to ensure our resilience through today's conditions. We are relentlessly focused on managing costs.

Speaker #3: In addition, broad uncertainty has discouraged investment, encouraged lean inventories, and weighed on consumer confidence. Collectively, these soft demand conditions have been a significant factor in the carbon black industry's challenging contract negotiations.

Speaker #3: On slide five, we highlight the actions Orion has taken to ensure our resilience through today's conditions. We are relentlessly focused on managing costs. On top of the cost reductions last year, we're taking additional actions which should drive $20 million in productivity, efficiency, and headcount savings.

Corning Painter: On top of the cost reductions last year, we're taking additional actions, which should drive $20 million in productivity, efficiency, and headcount savings. We are sharply reducing CapEx, which is a key fact lever that will enable us to deliver positive free cash flow again this year. We executed on the plan we announced last summer to rationalize 3 to 5 production lines and have already closed the lines we intend to. We are also pleased that our operational excellence initiatives are building momentum and bearing fruit. For example, the reliability of our North American plants improved more than 200 basis points over the course of 2025, enabling market-improved, on-time order metrics. We are focused on replicating our early successes here across our plant network worldwide.

Speaker #3: We are sharply reducing capex, which is a key lever that will enable us to deliver positive free cash flow again this year. We executed on the plan we announced last summer to rationalize three to five production lines and have already closed the lines we intend to.

Speaker #3: We are also pleased that our operational excellence initiatives are building momentum and bearing fruit. For example, the reliability of our North American plants improved more than 200 basis points over the course of 2025, enabling market-improved on-time order metrics.

Corning Painter: For example, the reliability of our North American plants improved more than 200 basis points over the course of 2025, enabling market-improved, on-time order metrics. We are focused on replicating our early successes here across our plant network worldwide.

Speaker #3: We are focused on replicating our early successes here across our plant network worldwide. Efforts include adopting a variety of capital light but novel process technologies and at least one AI tool is being leveraged for greater process efficiency.

Corning Painter: Efforts include adopting a variety of capital-light, but novel process technologies, and at least one AI tool is being leveraged for greater process efficiency. As you know, Orion believes we're entitled to earn a fair return when selling our products. In prior years, we have traded off some volume and end share to achieve this. However, in early negotiations last year, it became clear that this approach was not going to work for us or our customers. We pivoted to a more win with our customer strategy to maintain share. At the same time, we found that our customers, with weaker demand themselves, were looking to consolidate suppliers. This approach favored global suppliers like Orion. We believe that we emerged from this process, having defended our overall share and gotten closer to a few of our key customers.

Speaker #3: As you know, Orion believes we're entitled to earn a fair return when selling our products. In prior years, we have traded off some volume and share to achieve this.

Speaker #3: However, in early negotiations last year, it became clear that this approach was not going to work for us or our customers. We pivoted to a more win-with-our-customers strategy to maintain share.

Speaker #3: At the same time, we found that our customers, with weaker demand themselves, were looking to consolidate suppliers. This approach favored global suppliers like Orion.

Corning Painter: At the same time, we found that our customers, with weaker demand themselves, were looking to consolidate suppliers. This approach favored global suppliers like Orion. We believe that we emerged from this process, having defended our overall share and gotten closer to a few of our key customers.

Speaker #3: We believe that we emerged from this process having defended our overall share and gotten closer to a few of our key customers. Finally, we successfully negotiated and executed an amendment to our credit agreement that provides flexibility as we navigate through this cycle.

Corning Painter: Finally, we successfully negotiated and executed an amendment to our credit agreement that provides flexibility as we navigate through this cycle. John will elaborate more on this in a moment. Moving to Slide 6. Underlying carbon black indicators are improving. Passenger car, truck, and off-road tire categories each comprise about 1/3 of the carbon black consumed as a reinforcement material for the tire market on a global basis. The upper right chart with US import data depicts the above normal level of imports starting in 2023 and persisting during 2024, before surging throughout much of 2025. The more recent trend, suggesting import levels are subsiding, is encouraging. In Europe, an investigation into the dumping of Chinese tires is now expected to conclude in June, and the European Commission has simultaneously launched a probe into the subsidizing of Chinese-made tires exported to Europe.

Speaker #3: John will elaborate more on this in a moment. Moving to slide six, underlying carbon black indicators are improving. Passenger car, truck, and off-road tire categories each comprise about a third of the carbon black consumed as a reinforcement material for the tire market on a global basis.

Speaker #3: The upper right chart with US import data depicts the above normal level of imports starting in 2023 and persisting during 2024 before surging throughout much of 2025.

Corning Painter: The upper right chart with US import data depicts the above normal level of imports starting in 2023 and persisting during 2024, before surging throughout much of 2025. The more recent trend, suggesting import levels are subsiding, is encouraging. In Europe, an investigation into the dumping of Chinese tires is now expected to conclude in June, and the European Commission has simultaneously launched a probe into the subsidizing of Chinese-made tires exported to Europe.

Speaker #3: The more recent trend suggesting import levels are subsiding is encouraging. In Europe and investigation into the dumping of Chinese tires is now expected to include in June, and the European Commission has simultaneously launched a probe into the subsidizing of Chinese-made tires exported to Europe.

Speaker #3: A bit more of a leading indicator for imports is the export data from key tire manufacturing countries. Thailand is the single largest exporter of both passenger car and truck and bus tires to the US.

Corning Painter: A bit more of a leading indicator for imports is the export data from key tire manufacturing countries. Thailand is the single largest exporter of both passenger car and truck and bus tires to the US. As depicted in the lower left chart, exports from Thailand have been trending favorably, generally declining since the initial framework for a country-specific trade deal with Thailand was announced 1 August, and subsequent to when Section 232 tariffs on truck parts, including tires, were effective as of 1 November. We're also monitoring potential positive outcomes from changes to the USMCA trade agreement, likely this summer. On this slide, we also show a sharp decline in tire exports from India, the largest exporter of off-road tires, including construction, mining, and ag equipment tires.

Speaker #3: And as depicted in the lower left chart, exports from Thailand have been trending favorably, generally declining since the initial framework for a country-specific trade deal with Thailand was announced August 1.

Speaker #3: And subsequent to when Section 232 tariffs on truck parts, including tires, were effective as of November 1st. We're also monitoring potential positive outcomes from changes to the USMCA trade agreement likely this summer.

Corning Painter: We're also monitoring potential positive outcomes from changes to the USMCA trade agreement, likely this summer. On this slide, we also show a sharp decline in tire exports from India, the largest exporter of off-road tires, including construction, mining, and ag equipment tires.

Speaker #3: On this slide, we also show a sharp decline in tire exports from India, the largest exporter of off-road tires, including construction, mining, and ag equipment tires.

Speaker #3: On slide seven, I merely wanted to remind investors just how pronounced the downturn in the key truck and bus category has been as gauged by freight activity.

Corning Painter: On Slide seven, I merely wanted to remind investors just how pronounced the downturn in the key truck and bus category has been as gauged by freight activity. The Cass Freight Shipment Index shows three straight years of progressively lower freight activity in North America, including 2025 levels below the 2020 lows. There are indicators, including a rebound in spot freight rates, suggesting this market could be at an inflection. And with that, let's turn the call over to John.

Speaker #3: The CAS freight shipment index shows three straight years of progressively lower freight activity in North America, including 2025 levels below the 2020 lows. There are indicators, including a rebound in spot freight rates, suggesting this market could be at an inflection.

Speaker #3: And with that, let's turn the call over to John.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Corning. On slide eight, we highlight our 2025 results. We delivered full-year EBITDA of $248 million, which exceeded our most recent outlook. The main driver for the overperformance was better-than-expected Q4 volumes, primarily in Specialty and, to a lesser extent, in Rubber.

Jeff Glajch: Thanks, Corning. On Slide 8, we highlight our 2025 results. We delivered full-year Adjusted EBITDA of $248 million, which exceeded our most recent outlook. The main driver for the overperformance was better than expected Q4 volumes, primarily in specialty, and to a lesser extent, in rubber. Our rubber segment generated full-year adjusted EBITDA of $155 million. Rubber's full-year results were impacted predominantly by lower tire production rates in key Western markets due to elevated levels of lower-tier tire imports and soft freight industry conditions. Volumes increased 4%, mainly on higher demand in South America and APAC, partially offset by lower demands in EMEA. Net sales decreased 3% on lower pricing. Adjusted EBITDA decreased 20%, primarily due to adverse customer, and regional mix, as well as the unfavorable effect from the pass-through of lower oil prices.

Jon Puckett: Thanks, Corning. On Slide 8, we highlight our 2025 results. We delivered full-year Adjusted EBITDA of $248 million, which exceeded our most recent outlook. The main driver for the overperformance was better than expected Q4 volumes, primarily in specialty, and to a lesser extent, in rubber. Our rubber segment generated full-year adjusted EBITDA of $155 million.

Speaker #2: Our rubber segment generated full-year adjusted EBITDA of $155 million. Rubber's full-year results were impacted predominantly by lower tire production rates in key western markets due to elevated levels of lower-tier tire imports and soft freight industry conditions.

Jon Puckett: Rubber's full-year results were impacted predominantly by lower tire production rates in key Western markets due to elevated levels of lower-tier tire imports and soft freight industry conditions. Volumes increased 4%, mainly on higher demand in South America and APAC, partially offset by lower demands in EMEA. Net sales decreased 3% on lower pricing. Adjusted EBITDA decreased 20%, primarily due to adverse customer, and regional mix, as well as the unfavorable effect from the pass-through of lower oil prices.

Speaker #2: Volumes increased 4% mainly on higher demand in South America and APAC. Partially offset by lower demand in EMEA. Net sales decreased 3% on lower pricing.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA decreased 20%, primarily due to adverse customer and regional mix, as well as the unfavorable effect from the pass-through of lower oil prices.

Speaker #2: Our specialty segment delivered adjusted EBITDA of $94 million. Specialties' full-year results reflect soft global industrial activity. Particularly in transportation and polymer markets. And macro uncertainty on lack of clarity around global trade policy.

Jeff Glajch: Our specialty segment delivered Adjusted EBITDA of $94 million. Specialty's full-year results reflect soft global industrial activity, particularly in transportation and polymer markets, and macro uncertainty on lack of clarity around global trade policy. Volumes decreased 5%, owing to lower global demand. Net sales decreased 4% on lower volumes and the pass-through pricing, partially offset by favorable foreign currency translation. Adjusted EBITDA of the specialty carbon black segment decreased 14%, primarily due to the lower demand. Most notable achievement here is our free cash flow results for 2025. We generated $55 million of free cash flow on higher than expected EBITDA in Q4, working capital initiatives, and a little help from lower oil prices. 2025 demonstrates our ability to generate positive free cash flow in a challenging environment, and we expect this to continue in 2026.

Jon Puckett: Our specialty segment delivered Adjusted EBITDA of $94 million. Specialty's full-year results reflect soft global industrial activity, particularly in transportation and polymer markets, and macro uncertainty on lack of clarity around global trade policy. Volumes decreased 5%, owing to lower global demand. Net sales decreased 4% on lower volumes and the pass-through pricing, partially offset by favorable foreign currency translation.

Speaker #2: Volumes decreased 5% owing to lower global demand. Net sales decreased 4% on lower volumes in the pass-through pricing. Partially offset by favorable foreign currency translation.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA of the specialty carbon black segment decreased 14% primarily due to the lower demand. Most notable achievement here is our free cash flow results for 2025.

Jon Puckett: Adjusted EBITDA of the specialty carbon black segment decreased 14%, primarily due to the lower demand. Most notable achievement here is our free cash flow results for 2025. We generated $55 million of free cash flow on higher than expected EBITDA in Q4, working capital initiatives, and a little help from lower oil prices. 2025 demonstrates our ability to generate positive free cash flow in a challenging environment, and we expect this to continue in 2026.

Speaker #2: We generated $55 million of free cash flow on higher-than-expected EBITDA in the fourth a little help from lower oil prices. 2025 demonstrates our ability to generate positive free cash flow in a challenging environment, and we expect this to continue in 2026.

Speaker #2: Let's move to slide nine for rubber segment highlights and outlook. On a year-over-year basis, fourth-quarter demand softness was due to higher-than-normal seasonality. The key driver was lower tire production rates in the west, impacted by import levels as well as channel inventories that remain high due to the surge in imports throughout 2025.

Jeff Glajch: Let's move to Slide 9 for Rubber segment highlights and outlook. On a year-over-year basis, Q4 demand softness was due to higher than normal seasonality. The key driver was lower tire production rates in the West, impacted by import levels, as well as channel inventories that remain high due to the surge in imports throughout 2025. This headwind was only partially offset by higher volumes from additional lines. In terms of outlook, we're assuming tire build rates in our key markets will remain subdued. Contract pricing for 2026 is set and baked into our outlook. Our strong and improved relationships with key tire makers position us well to take advantage of better industry and demand conditions, particularly in North America, as they materialize. Let's move to Slide 10 for specialty highlights and outlook.

Jon Puckett: Let's move to Slide 9 for Rubber segment highlights and outlook. On a year-over-year basis, Q4 demand softness was due to higher than normal seasonality. The key driver was lower tire production rates in the West, impacted by import levels, as well as channel inventories that remain high due to the surge in imports throughout 2025. This headwind was only partially offset by higher volumes from additional lines. In terms of outlook, we're assuming tire build rates in our key markets will remain subdued.

Speaker #2: This headwind was only partially offset by higher volumes from additional lands. In terms of outlook, we're assuming tire build rates in our key markets will remain subdued.

Jon Puckett: Contract pricing for 2026 is set and baked into our outlook. Our strong and improved relationships with key tire makers position us well to take advantage of better industry and demand conditions, particularly in North America, as they materialize. Let's move to Slide 10 for specialty highlights and outlook.

Speaker #2: Contract pricing for 2026 is set and baked into our outlook. Our strong and improved relationships with key tire makers position us well to take advantage of better industry and demand conditions, particularly in North America as they materialize.

Speaker #2: Let's move to slide 10 for specialty highlights and outlook. The segments adjusted EBITDA of $27 million improved 6% year over year and $23% sequentially despite lower volumes.

Jeff Glajch: The segment's Adjusted EBITDA of $27 million improved 6% year-over-year, and 23% sequentially, despite lower volumes. This was largely attributable to positive mix, including the benefit from new production qualifications. In terms of outlook, we assume flat to slightly lower volumes as PMI readings in key Western markets and global auto build rates remain muted. It is important to note order trends are smaller and more frequent, often with just-in-time urgency. This tells us that inventory levels are quite lean, and should the macro backdrop improve, we could benefit from a restocking cycle. Now on Slide 11, for cash flow and balance sheet metrics. Working capital initiatives were a key driver of positive free cash flow for the year, delivering $64 million during the Q4 alone.

Jon Puckett: The segment's Adjusted EBITDA of $27 million improved 6% year-over-year, and 23% sequentially, despite lower volumes. This was largely attributable to positive mix, including the benefit from new production qualifications. In terms of outlook, we assume flat to slightly lower volumes as PMI readings in key Western markets and global auto build rates remain muted. It is important to note order trends are smaller and more frequent, often with just-in-time urgency.

Speaker #2: This was largely attributable to positive mix, including the benefit from new production qualifications. In terms of outlook, we assume flat to slightly lower volumes, as PMI readings in key Western markets and global auto build rates remain muted.

Speaker #2: It is important to note order trends are smaller and more frequent, often with just-in-time urgency. This tells us that inventory levels are quite lean and should the macro backdrop improve, we could benefit from a restocking cycle.

Jon Puckett: This tells us that inventory levels are quite lean, and should the macro backdrop improve, we could benefit from a restocking cycle. Now on Slide 11, for cash flow and balance sheet metrics. Working capital initiatives were a key driver of positive free cash flow for the year, delivering $64 million during the Q4 alone.

Speaker #2: Now on slide 11 for cash flow and balance sheet metrics. Working capital initiatives were a key driver of positive free cash flow for the year, delivering $64 million during the fourth quarter alone.

Speaker #2: On a year-over-year basis, operating cash flow improved by $91 million to $216 million for 2025. We also spent $46 million less on CapEx in 2025 than in 2024.

Jeff Glajch: On a year-over-year basis, operating cash flow improved by $91 million to $216 million for 2025. We also spent $46 million less on CapEx in 2025 than in 2024. Our focused efforts drove $55 million of free cash flow, and I'm confident we will continue to pull all levers available to continue this trend in 2026. Strong cash flow performance in the quarter enabled $40 million in net debt reduction. We finished the year with $920 million of net debt and a leverage ratio of 3.7 times, down from 3.8 times at the end of Q3. Finally, given the anticipated downdraft in our EBITDA in 2026, we proactively addressed potential issues related to leverage with an amendment to our credit agreement.

Jon Puckett: On a year-over-year basis, operating cash flow improved by $91 million to $216 million for 2025. We also spent $46 million less on CapEx in 2025 than in 2024. Our focused efforts drove $55 million of free cash flow, and I'm confident we will continue to pull all levers available to continue this trend in 2026. Strong cash flow performance in the quarter enabled $40 million in net debt reduction.

Speaker #2: Our focused efforts drove $55 million of free cash flow, and I'm confident we will continue to pull all levers available to continue this trend in 2026.

Speaker #2: Strong cash flow performance in the quarter enabled $40 million in net debt reduction. We finished the year with $920 million of net debt and a leverage ratio of 3.7 times, down from 3.8 times at the end of the third quarter.

Jon Puckett: We finished the year with $920 million of net debt and a leverage ratio of 3.7 times, down from 3.8 times at the end of Q3. Finally, given the anticipated downdraft in our EBITDA in 2026, we proactively addressed potential issues related to leverage with an amendment to our credit agreement.

Speaker #2: Finally, given the anticipated downdraft in our EBITDA in 2026, we proactively addressed potential issues related to leverage with an amendment to our credit agreement.

Speaker #2: Our banking group was very supportive with unanimous approval, and our revised first lien leverage ratios ensure ample headroom even when considering scenarios more severe than those implied in our guidance.

Jeff Glajch: Our banking group was very supportive with unanimous approval, and our revised first lien leverage ratios ensure ample headroom, even when considering scenarios more severe than those implied in our guidance. With that, I'll turn the call back to Corning to discuss our outlook.

Jon Puckett: Our banking group was very supportive with unanimous approval, and our revised first lien leverage ratios ensure ample headroom, even when considering scenarios more severe than those implied in our guidance. With that, I'll turn the call back to Corning to discuss our outlook.

Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call back to Corning to discuss our outlook.

Speaker #3: Thanks, John. On slide 12, we provide 2026 guidance ranges for adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow, and capital expenditures, as well as some key sensitivities.

Corning Painter: Thanks, John. On Slide 12, we provide 2026 guidance ranges for Adjusted EBITDA, Free Cash Flow, and capital expenditures, as well as some key sensitivities. For the full year, we expect to generate between $160 and 200 million of Adjusted EBITDA. For the first half of 2026, we expect to generate Adjusted EBITDA of between $90 and 110 million. This additional guidance measure is based on past seasonality weightings, where we have historically generated about 55% of total EBITDA in the first half of any given year and about 45% in the second half. In 2026, we anticipate generating Free Cash Flow between $25 and 50 million, as we continue to execute on our working capital initiatives and reduce capital expenditures....

Speaker #3: For the full year, we expect to generate between $160 million and $200 million of adjusted EBITDA. For the first half of 2026, we expect to generate adjusted EBITDA of between $90 million and $110 million.

Speaker #3: This additional guidance measure is based on past seasonality weightings, where we have historically generated about 55% of total EBITDA in the first half of any given year and about 45% in the second half.

Corning Painter: This additional guidance measure is based on past seasonality weightings, where we have historically generated about 55% of total EBITDA in the first half of any given year and about 45% in the second half. In 2026, we anticipate generating Free Cash Flow between $25 and 50 million, as we continue to execute on our working capital initiatives and reduce capital expenditures....

Speaker #3: In 2026, we anticipate generating free cash flow between $25 million and $50 million as we continue to execute on our working capital initiatives and reduce capital expenditures.

Speaker #3: We expect $90 million of CapEx in 2026, down $70 million from 2025 levels. Finally, on slide 13, I have a few concluding remarks before moving to your Q&A.

Corning Painter: We expect $90 million of CapEx in 2026, down to $70 million from 2025 levels. Finally, on slide 13, I have a few concluding remarks before moving to your Q&A. No doubt about it, 2025 was a difficult year for the broader chemicals industry. In our case, the surge in tire imports was a pain point. However, we've entered 2026 with a number of corporate strengths. You can see it in our safety performance as well as our employee engagement scores. We see it commercially through customer loyalty. Our plant reliability is improving sharply. Just yesterday, EcoVadis awarded Orion its platinum rating, putting us in the top 1% of all companies surveyed in 2025. From a market perspective, while leading indicators suggest conditions may be set up for a broad recovery, we remain cautious about the business environment for now.

Speaker #3: No doubt about it, 2025 was a difficult year for the broader chemicals industry. In our case, the surge in tire imports was a pain point.

Speaker #3: However, we've entered 2026 with a number of corporate strengths. You can see it in our safety performance as well as our employee engagement scores.

Speaker #3: We see it commercially through customer loyalty. Our plant reliability is improving sharply. Just yesterday, EcoVadis awarded Orion its Platinum rating, putting us in the top 1% of all companies surveyed in 2025.

Corning Painter: Our plant reliability is improving sharply. Just yesterday, EcoVadis awarded Orion its platinum rating, putting us in the top 1% of all companies surveyed in 2025. From a market perspective, while leading indicators suggest conditions may be set up for a broad recovery, we remain cautious about the business environment for now.

Speaker #3: From a market perspective, while leading indicators suggest conditions may be set up for a broad recovery, we remain cautious about the business environment for now.

Corning Painter: Moreover, we've taken aggressive actions on footprint rationalization, cost, productivity, and efficiency based on the planning assumption that the backdrop will not improve. Our single highest priority after safety is to generate free cash flow again in 2026 through the actions we've taken on cost and capital. We do see several potential upsides over the balance of 2026, including a favorable shift in trade flows, burgeoning reshoring activity, and the inevitable freight industry recovery. In addition to helping our financial performance in 2026, a pronounced inflection in any of these dynamics would help set the stage for decidedly improved prospects heading into 2027. In the meantime, we've pulled a variety of levers and are prepared should the trough-like conditions persist. And with that, Rob, let's open up the call for the Q&A session.

Speaker #3: Moreover, we've taken aggressive actions on footprint rationalization, cost, productivity, and efficiency, based on the planning assumption that the backdrop will not improve. Our single highest priority after safety is to generate free cash flow again in 2026 through the actions we've taken on cost and capital.

Speaker #3: We do see several potential upsides over the balance of 2026, including a favorable shift in trade flows, burgeoning reshoring activity, and the inevitable freight industry recovery.

Corning Painter: We do see several potential upsides over the balance of 2026, including a favorable shift in trade flows, burgeoning reshoring activity, and the inevitable freight industry recovery. In addition to helping our financial performance in 2026, a pronounced inflection in any of these dynamics would help set the stage for decidedly improved prospects heading into 2027. In the meantime, we've pulled a variety of levers and are prepared should the trough-like conditions persist. And with that, Rob, let's open up the call for the Q&A session.

Speaker #3: In addition to helping our financial performance in 2026, a pronounced inflection in any of these dynamics would help set the stage for decidedly improved prospects heading into 2027.

Speaker #3: In the meantime, we've pulled a variety of levers and are prepared should the trough-like conditions persist. And with that, Rob, let's open up the call for the Q&A session.

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Speaker #4: Yeah, hi. Good morning. I had a couple of questions around the guidance and specifically rubber. So if you look at the bridge, you talked about flat to slightly down volumes and the rest being contract negotiation outcomes.

[Analyst] (UBS): Yeah. Hi, good morning. I had a couple questions around the guidance and specifically rubber. So if you look at the bridge, you talked about, you know, flat to slightly down volumes and the rest being contract negotiation outcomes. So it seems like you're pointing towards maybe a $60 million impact negative from contract outcomes, and, you know, one, is that right? And two, when you talked about that in your prepared remarks, you seemed to talk about improved customer alignment and good outcomes for Orion. Does that mean that you guys gave up pricing to gain some volumes? And I guess it doesn't appear that you're baking in the volumes into the guidance, so I'm just trying to square all those moving parts, if you can help me out.

Josh Spector: Yeah. Hi, good morning. I had a couple questions around the guidance and specifically rubber. So if you look at the bridge, you talked about, you know, flat to slightly down volumes and the rest being contract negotiation outcomes. So it seems like you're pointing towards maybe a $60 million impact negative from contract outcomes, and, you know, one, is that right? And two, when you talked about that in your prepared remarks, you seemed to talk about improved customer alignment and good outcomes for Orion.

Speaker #4: So it seems like you're pointing towards maybe a $60 million negative impact from contract outcomes. One, is that right? And two, when you talked about that in your prepared remarks, you seemed to talk about improved customer alignment and good outcomes for Orion.

Josh Spector: Does that mean that you guys gave up pricing to gain some volumes? And I guess it doesn't appear that you're baking in the volumes into the guidance, so I'm just trying to square all those moving parts, if you can help me out.

Speaker #4: Does that mean that you guys gave up pricing to gain some volumes? And I guess it doesn't appear that you're baking in the volumes into the guidance.

Speaker #4: So I'm just trying to square all those moving parts, if you can help me out.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So I think you broadly have it correctly in terms of the walk. Price is definitely the largest amount. There is some regional mix in that, as you said, also.

Corning Painter: Yeah. So I think you broadly have it correctly in terms of the walk. Price is definitely the largest amount. There is some regional mix in that. As you said, also, there is some volume in there as well. Specifically, though, to the negotiations, what we pivoted to was just let's hold share. So I would say is the tone and where we ended up with a few customers coming through. It was a difficult period for them, it was a difficult period for us, together, is where I'd put that, and we felt there was, you know, an element of collaboration in that. But to be clear on this, we don't see ourselves as having bought volume. I think our volumes will be down with the overall industry.

Speaker #3: There is some volume in there as well. Specifically, though, to the negotiations, what we pivoted to was just, "Let's hold share." So what I would say is the tone and where we ended up with a few customers coming through was a difficult period for them.

Corning Painter: It was a difficult period for them, it was a difficult period for us, together, is where I'd put that, and we felt there was, you know, an element of collaboration in that. But to be clear on this, we don't see ourselves as having bought volume. I think our volumes will be down with the overall industry.It's just that compared to previous years, we're not gonna be down more than the overall industry. We did not do the trade-off of sucking up a lot of volume loss ourselves.

Speaker #3: It was a difficult period for us. Together is where I put that. And we felt there was an element of collaboration in that. But to be clear on this, we don't see ourselves as having bought volume. I think our volumes will be down with the overall industry.

Speaker #3: It's just that, compared to previous years, we're not going to be down more than the overall industry. We did not do the trade-off of sucking up a lot of volume loss ourselves.

Corning Painter: It's just that compared to previous years, we're not gonna be down more than the overall industry. We did not do the trade-off of sucking up a lot of volume loss ourselves.

Speaker #4: Understood. That makes sense. And if I could just follow up, then so how do you think customers approach kind of this outcome? So obviously, pricing was up a good amount over the last five years.

[Analyst] (UBS): Understood. That makes sense. And if I could just follow up then. So, how do you think customers approach kind of this outcome? So, you know, obviously, pricing was up a good amount over the last five years. Is this a normalization or is this, to how you phrased it, you know, your customers had a tough year last year, you're kind of sharing in some of the pain. Do you get some of this back if the industry improves into 2027, or, you know, how would you frame that?

Josh Spector: Understood. That makes sense. And if I could just follow up then. So, how do you think customers approach kind of this outcome? So, you know, obviously, pricing was up a good amount over the last five years. Is this a normalization or is this, to how you phrased it, you know, your customers had a tough year last year, you're kind of sharing in some of the pain. Do you get some of this back if the industry improves into 2027, or, you know, how would you frame that?

Speaker #4: Is this a normalization or is this to how you phrased it, your customers had a tough year last year? You're kind of sharing in some of the pain.

Speaker #4: Do you get some of this back if the industry improves into 2027 or how would you frame that?

Speaker #3: Yeah, I would definitely expect to get some of this back in '27.

Corning Painter: Yeah, I would definitely expect to get some of this back in 2027.

Speaker #4: Okay. Thank you.

[Analyst] (UBS): Okay, thank you.

Josh Spector: Okay, thank you.

Operator: Our next question is from the line of Lawrence Alexander with Jefferies. Please receive your questions.

Speaker #1: Our next question is from the line of Lawrence Alexander, with Jeffreys. Please receive through your questions.

Laurence Alexander: Good morning. It's Dan Rizwan for Lawrence. Thanks for taking my question. So you know, you're guiding to roughly like $50 million in free cash flow. I was wondering if that's what we could expect at, kind of at the bottom of the cycle, and how we should think about it if things were to improve or what, what the top of the cycle looks like. I mean, should we just look at the historical averages?

Speaker #5: Good morning. It's Dan Rizawan for Lawrence. Thanks for taking my question. So you've gotten to roughly like $50 million in free cash flow. I was wondering if that's what we could expect at kind of at the bottom of the cycle.

Dan Rizzo: Good morning. It's Dan Rizwan for Lawrence. Thanks for taking my question. So you know, you're guiding to roughly like $50 million in free cash flow. I was wondering if that's what we could expect at, kind of at the bottom of the cycle, and how we should think about it if things were to improve or what, what the top of the cycle looks like. I mean, should we just look at the historical averages?

Speaker #5: And how should we think about it if things were to improve, or what the top of the cycle looks like? I mean, should we just look at historical averages?

Speaker #3: Yes. Dan, the range that we put on free cash flow for next year is 25 to 50. And this is through active management of the business, active management of working capital, active management of CapEx.

Corning Painter: Yeah, Dan, you know, the range that we put on free cash flow for next year is $25 to 50. And, you know, this is through active management of the business, active management of working capital, active management of CapEx. So this didn't happen on its own. This is because we're taking actions on things like payment terms. We're working through inventory and trying to keep inventory at a low level without risking anything in safety stock or customer deliveries. And we're managing CapEx down to a much lower level than what it's been. And so, you know, this is where we expect to be for 2026, and we expect to continue to generate positive free cash flow as we go forward. And maybe just specific, if, if we saw-...

Speaker #3: So this didn't happen on its own. This is because we're taking actions on things like payment terms. We're working through inventory and trying to keep inventory at a low level without risking anything and safety stock or customer deliveries.

Corning Painter: We're working through inventory and trying to keep inventory at a low level without risking anything in safety stock or customer deliveries. And we're managing CapEx down to a much lower level than what it's been. And so, you know, this is where we expect to be for 2026, and we expect to continue to generate positive free cash flow as we go forward. And maybe just specific, if, if we saw-...conditions reverse and some of these things that we've talked about, there's maybe early signs of, obviously, that would be additive to our cash position for 26.

Speaker #3: And we're managing CapEx down to a much lower level than what it's been. And so this is where this is where we expect to be for '26.

Speaker #3: And we expect to continue to generate positive free cash flow as we go forward. And maybe just specific, if we saw conditions reverse and some of these things that we talked about, there's maybe early signs of obviously, that would be additive to our cash position for '26.

Corning Painter: conditions reverse and some of these things that we've talked about, there's maybe early signs of, obviously, that would be additive to our cash position for 26.

Laurence Alexander: You mentioned, you know, kind of negotiating with your customers about pricing, given, you know, the current environment. Is there anything in the contracts that if things were to kind of snap back or turn around by the middle of the year, that there could be some sort of pricing escalator involved?

Speaker #5: You mentioned kind of negotiating with your customers about pricing given the current environment. Is there anything in the contracts that, if things were to kind of snap back or turn around by the middle of the year, there could be some sort of pricing escalator involved?

Dan Rizzo: You mentioned, you know, kind of negotiating with your customers about pricing, given, you know, the current environment. Is there anything in the contracts that if things were to kind of snap back or turn around by the middle of the year, that there could be some sort of pricing escalator involved?

Corning Painter: To be clear, I think the good thing about this industry is the contracts are honored. I think back to 2020 would have cut the other way, and customers honored them. I think that to a large degree, unfortunately, in the rubber area, we're somewhat locked in. Yep, there can be spot opportunities. There can be people going above their contracts. There are going to be some opportunities around that, but by and large, I think we're in this pricing range.

Speaker #3: To be clear, I think the good thing about this industry is the contracts are honored. I think back to 2020, when it cut the other way, and customers honored them.

Speaker #3: I think that, to a large degree, unfortunately, in the rubber area, we're somewhat locked in. Yep, there are going to be spot opportunities. They're going to be going above their contracts.

Speaker #3: They're going to be some opportunities around that. But by and large, I think we're in this pricing range.

Speaker #1: All right. Thank you very much. Our next question is from the line of John Townting with CGS Securities. Please receive through your questions.

Laurence Alexander: All right. Thank you very much.

Dan Rizzo: All right. Thank you very much.

Operator: Our next question is in the line of John Tanwanteng with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your questions.

Speaker #6: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I was wondering if there is any change to how much capacity you have under contract versus a normal year, and how much you're leaving open for spot, number one.

Daniel Moore: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I was wondering if there was any change to how much capacity you have under contract versus a normal year, and how much you're leaving open for spot, number one, or if there's any minimums in the contracts that you may have that may not have been there before?

Jon Tanwanteng: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I was wondering if there was any change to how much capacity you have under contract versus a normal year, and how much you're leaving open for spot, number one, or if there's any minimums in the contracts that you may have that may not have been there before?

Speaker #6: Or if there's any minimums in the contracts that you may have that may not have been there before.

Speaker #3: Sure. First of all, take those in reverse order. In minimums, there are sometimes contract structures that don't really create a, let's say, take-or-pay environment around minimums, but do give them a financial incentive around minimums.

Corning Painter: Sure. First of all, take those in reverse order. In minimums, there are sometimes contract structures that don't really create a, let's say, take or pay environment around minimums, but do give them a financial incentive around the minimums. So we have that in place. I'm sorry, John, can you take me through your two other parts to that question?

Speaker #3: So, we have that in place. I'm sorry, John. Can you take me through your two other parts to that question?

Daniel Moore: Yeah, the first part was, how much do you have under contract capacity-

Speaker #6: Yeah. The first part was how much do you have under contract capacity versus your capacity versus a normal year.

Jon Tanwanteng: Yeah, the first part was, how much do you have under contract capacity-

Corning Painter: Mm-hmm.

Daniel Moore: versus your capacity versus a normal year?

Jon Tanwanteng: versus your capacity versus a normal year?

Speaker #3: Yeah. Well, so I'd say it's slightly lower in that if you look at the key markets, North America, for example, tire manufacturing trended down through the course of last year.

Corning Painter: Yeah, well, so I'd say it's slightly lower in that like, if you look at the key markets, North America, for example, like, tire manufacturing trended down through the course of last year. And I'd say they put out their forecast for this year, sort of based on second half run rate. So like, that just naturally puts you at a little bit lower level than last year. Now, the flip about loading for us, since we took out, you know, maybe 3% to 5% of our capacity, if volumes go down by the same amount, our, our loading itself remains, on a percentage basis, pretty similar.

Speaker #3: And I’d say they put out their forecast for this year sort of based on second-half run rate. So that just naturally puts you at a little bit lower level than last year.

Corning Painter: Now, the flip about loading for us, since we took out, you know, maybe 3% to 5% of our capacity, if volumes go down by the same amount, our, our loading itself remains, on a percentage basis, pretty similar.

Speaker #3: Now, the flip about loading for us, since we took out maybe three to five percent of our capacity, if volumes go down by the same amount, our loading itself remains, on a percentage basis, pretty similar.

Speaker #6: Okay. That makes sense. And then I think you had a couple of items in Q4. If you could touch on those. The first was a large tax item.

Daniel Moore: Okay, that makes sense. And then, I think you had a couple of items in Q4, if you could touch on those. The first was a large tax item. Maybe talk about that, number one, and number two, I think you mentioned in the prepared remarks from the press release, there was a timing benefit and specialty that you may have addressed that, I might have missed it, but if you could talk about that as well, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Jon Tanwanteng: Okay, that makes sense. And then, I think you had a couple of items in Q4, if you could touch on those. The first was a large tax item. Maybe talk about that, number one, and number two, I think you mentioned in the prepared remarks from the press release, there was a timing benefit and specialty that you may have addressed that, I might have missed it, but if you could talk about that as well, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Maybe talk about that, number one. And number two, I think you mentioned in the prepared remarks, in the press release, there was a timing benefit in Specialty that you may have addressed.

Speaker #6: I might have missed it, but if you could talk about that as well, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Yeah, and I'll be glad to cover the tax item. Primarily, the single biggest item that we have in our effective tax rate for the year is the goodwill impairment charge that we took in Q3, and the non-deductible nature of that.

Corning Painter: Yeah, and I, I'll be glad to cover the tax item. Primarily, the single biggest item that we have in our, in our, effective tax rate for the year is the goodwill impairment charge that we took in Q3 and the non-deductible nature of that. And so that was the main driver. There's also some movement in valuation allowances as well. But we would expect we would return to a more normal level going forward from a tax rate standpoint. And if I think about on the volume side, where we saw the upside, and, you know, we also said mix. So like, one element of that was areas like, coatings, where we saw stronger demand than we had anticipated, and of course, that's very additive for us in terms of the overall margin.

Speaker #3: And so that was the main driver. There's also some movement in valuation allowances as well. But we would expect we would return to a more normal level going forward from a tax rate standpoint.

Corning Painter: But we would expect we would return to a more normal level going forward from a tax rate standpoint. And if I think about on the volume side, where we saw the upside, and, you know, we also said mix. So like, one element of that was areas like, coatings, where we saw stronger demand than we had anticipated, and of course, that's very additive for us in terms of the overall margin.

Speaker #3: And if I think about, on the volume side, where we saw the upside—and we also said mix—so one element of that was areas like coatings, where we saw stronger demand than we had anticipated.

Speaker #3: And of course, that's a very additive for us in terms of the overall margin.

Speaker #6: Great. Thank you. Our next question is in the line of Jeff Zakakis with JPMorgan. Please receive through your questions.

Daniel Moore: Great, thank you.

Jon Tanwanteng: Great, thank you.

Operator: Our next question is in the line of Jeff Zekauskas with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Thanks very much. Your accounts payable jumped to, I think, $197 million. Does that have to come down?

Speaker #1: Thanks very much. Your accounts payable jumped to, I think, $197 million. Does that have to come down?

Jeff Zekauskas: Thanks very much. Your accounts payable jumped to, I think, $197 million. Does that have to come down?

Speaker #3: Well, Jeff, we're actively managing the different elements of working capital. So we look at it with accounts—I'm sorry, we're getting a little feedback from your line.

Corning Painter: Well, Jeff, we're actively managing the different elements of working capital, so we look at it with accounts re... I'm sorry. We're getting a little feedback from your line. I didn't know if you were continuing.

Speaker #3: I didn't know if you were continuing.

Speaker #1: No, no. It's okay. I was just wondering because your receivables and inventory receivables year over year were a little bit flat, and inventory came down a little bit.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): No, no, it's okay. I was just wondering-

Jeff Zekauskas: No, no, it's okay. I was just wondering-

Corning Painter: Okay.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): - because your receivables and inventory, receivables year over year, were a little bit flat, and-

Jeff Zekauskas: - because your receivables and inventory, receivables year over year, were a little bit flat, and-

Corning Painter: Yeah

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Inventory came down a little bit.

Corning Painter: Yeah

Jeff Zekauskas: Inventory came down a little bit.

Corning Painter: Yeah.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): But payables really jumped. And so-

Jeff Zekauskas: But payables really jumped. And so-

Speaker #1: But payables really jumped, and so I was wondering whether that was a sustainable number, or if that had to come down.

Corning Painter: Yeah.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): I was wondering whether that was a sustainable number or that had to come down.

Jeff Zekauskas: I was wondering whether that was a sustainable number or that had to come down.

Speaker #3: Yeah, Jeff, so yeah, you were continuing. Yeah. So we're actively managing all the elements of working capital. And we're looking at all those as different levers as we go through the year and through each quarter.

Corning Painter: Yeah. Jeff, so yeah, sorry, we just got a little bit of feedback, so I didn't know-

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): It's all right.

Jeff Zekauskas: It's all right.

Corning Painter: Yeah. We so we're actively managing all the elements of working capital, and we're looking at all those as different levers as we go through the year and through each quarter. You know, one of the things that we're doing in accounts payable is to look at terms extensions. So I wouldn't say that the accounts payable has to immediately revert. There'll obviously be some quarterly activity that happens there, but we're really looking at it as a whole with inventory and how do we manage inventory levels to given the current demand situation and also on accounts receivable. We've taken an active stance on accounts receivable to manage that going forward as well. So we look at it as all together, and we'll make decisions about the whole, depending on how we're tracking through the quarter.

Speaker #3: And one of the things that we're doing in accounts payable is to look at terms extensions. And so I wouldn't say that the accounts payable has to immediately revert.

Corning Painter: There'll obviously be some quarterly activity that happens there, but we're really looking at it as a whole with inventory and how do we manage inventory levels to given the current demand situation and also on accounts receivable. We've taken an active stance on accounts receivable to manage that going forward as well. So we look at it as all together, and we'll make decisions about the whole, depending on how we're tracking through the quarter.

Speaker #3: They'll obviously be some quarterly activity that happens there. But we're really looking at, as a whole, with inventory and how do we manage inventory levels to given the current demand situation.

Speaker #3: And also on accounts receivable, we've taken an active stance on accounts receivable to manage that going forward as well. So we look at it as altogether, and we'll make decisions about the whole depending on how we're tracking through a quarter.

Speaker #1: Okay. Secondly, can you give us an update on the La Porte plant and what's going on in conductive carbons?

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Secondly, can you give us an update on the La Porte plant and what's going on in Conductive Carbons?

Jeff Zekauskas: Secondly, can you give us an update on the La Porte plant and what's going on in Conductive Carbons?

Speaker #3: Sure. So, the conductive carbons market is in a dynamic place right now, with obviously a slowdown in EVs, and some pickup in the large battery energy storage area, ESS, for our part. And part of the way we've been able to reduce the capital for 2026 is that we have slowed down our time period on it.

Corning Painter: Sure. So the conductive carbons market's a dynamic place right now, with obviously a slowdown in EVs, some pickup in the large battery energy storage area, ESS. For our part, and part of the way we've been able to reduce the capital for 2026, is that we have slowed down our time period expect to complete and be starting up the project in 2027, and our feeling is this just better aligns with the end market demand for this.

Speaker #3: We would now expect to complete and be starting up the project in 2027. And our feeling is this just better aligns with the end market demand for this.

Speaker #1: Okay. And then lastly, you guys really provided a lot of data on tire shipments. I was wondering, what about tire shipments into Europe? Are they up a little bit or a lot or decline?

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Okay. And then lastly, you guys really provided a lot of data on tire shipments. I was wondering, what about tire shipments into Europe? Are they, you know, up a little bit or a lot or decline? I mean, is it a similar trend to the United States-

Jeff Zekauskas: Okay. And then lastly, you guys really provided a lot of data on tire shipments. I was wondering, what about tire shipments into Europe? Are they, you know, up a little bit or a lot or decline? I mean, is it a similar trend to the United States-

Speaker #1: I mean, is it a similar trend to the United States, or is it different? How would you assess the European market?

Corning Painter: Yeah.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Or is it different? How would you assess the European market?

Jeff Zekauskas: Or is it different? How would you assess the European market?

Speaker #3: Sure. And so, one thing is you just don't get quite as rapid data in the European market as you do in the US. But we would say that it rose, let's say, in the '23–'24 time period, that tire imports to Europe were more stable, certainly, than in the US.

Corning Painter: Sure. And so one thing is you just don't get quite as rapid data.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Yeah

Jeff Zekauskas: Yeah

Corning Painter: ... in the European market as you do in the US. But we would say that it rose, let's say, in the 2023-2024 time period, that tire imports to Europe were more stable, certainly, than in the US. They didn't see the same surge that we saw in 2026 or 2025, excuse me.

Speaker #3: They didn't see the same surge that we saw in 2026. Or 2025, excuse me.

Speaker #1: Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Jeff Zekauskas: Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Speaker #2: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you may press star one. Our next question is from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you may press Star one. Our next question is from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho. Please receive your questions.

Speaker #2: Please receive through questions.

[Analyst] (Mizuho): Thank you. I'll just ask one here. Could you tell us where the 3 lines were that you closed and the other 2 lines that were under review? Have you concluded that they're long-term competitive doubts?

John Roberts: Thank you. I'll just ask one here. Could you tell us where the 3 lines were that you closed and the other 2 lines that were under review? Have you concluded that they're long-term competitive doubts?

Speaker #4: Thank you. And I'll just ask one here. Could you tell us where the three lines were that you closed? And the other two lines that were under review—have you concluded that they're long-term competitive now?

Speaker #3: Yeah. So we intentionally said that they were in the Americas and in EMEA from a competitive perspective. We thought it was advantageous not to be totally clear on that.

Corning Painter: Yeah. So we intentionally said that they were in the Americas and in EMEA. From a competitive perspective, we thought it was advantageous not to be totally clear on that. So we're sticking with that we've closed what we intend to close. We did something obviously in the range of 3 to 5, and it cuts across those two ranges, and, or those two regions, excuse me. And I just think that's the best approach for Orion on that and our shareholders.

Speaker #3: So we're sticking with that we've closed what we intend to close. We did something. Obviously, in the range of three to five. And it cuts across those two ranges.

Speaker #3: Or those two regions, excuse me. And I just think that's the best approach for Orion on that and our shareholders.

[Analyst] (Mizuho): Thank you.

John Roberts: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank ank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is a follow-up from the line of Jeff Zakakis with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. The next question is a follow-up from the line of Jeff Zekauskas with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Thanks very much. I think Cabot, on its conference call, said that it expected tire black prices to be down 7 to 9% for them. Is that the level that you're experiencing, or is it more, or is it less?

Speaker #1: Thanks very much. I think Cabot, on its conference call, said that it expected tire black prices to be down 7 to 9 percent for them.

Jeff Zekauskas: Thanks very much. I think Cabot, on its conference call, said that it expected tire black prices to be down 7 to 9% for them. Is that the level that you're experiencing, or is it more, or is it less?

Speaker #1: Is that the level that you're experiencing, or is it more, or is it less?

Corning Painter: Hey, Jeff, excellent question there. But the difficult thing is, like, it's hard to know exactly what one company's dividing the price change by, you know, like, how big is the denominator? So that's, that's I think, the limitation to making these comparisons. As we make the comparison for ourselves, we do come up with a, with a lower number in terms of what's the price cut. I'd say, more, let's say, the, the 3 to 5 range, but I'm not sure, you know, exactly how comparable those two things are.

Speaker #3: Hey, Jeff. Excellent question there. But the difficult thing is, it's hard to know exactly what one company's dividing the price change by. How big is the denominator?

Speaker #3: So that's, I think, the limitation to making these comparisons. As we make the comparison for ourselves, we do come up with a lower number in terms of what’s the price cut.

Speaker #3: I'd say more or less, say, in the three to five range. But I'm not sure exactly how comparable those two things are.

Speaker #1: Okay. And then lastly, you have that interesting chart about Thailand tire exports by month and Indian tire exports. But the tire imports actually go up.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): And then, lastly, you have that interesting chart about Thailand tire exports by month and Indian tire exports, but the tire imports actually go up. And I think part of that is Cambodia, which is a smaller producer. You know, do you have any sort of general comments about the areas in which tire imports are, you know, sort of going up from, as well as the ones where they're coming down?

Jeff Zekauskas: And then, lastly, you have that interesting chart about Thailand tire exports by month and Indian tire exports, but the tire imports actually go up. And I think part of that is Cambodia, which is a smaller producer. You know, do you have any sort of general comments about the areas in which tire imports are, you know, sort of going up from, as well as the ones where they're coming down?

Speaker #1: And I think part of that is Cambodia, which is a smaller producer. Do you have any sort of general comments about the areas in which tire imports are going up from, as well as the ones where they're coming down?

Speaker #3: Yeah, so I think—rather, so I think we picked those two countries because they're very large, right? So, Thailand, the number one, to the US.

Corning Painter: Yeah. So I think we picked those two countries because they're very large, right?

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Yeah.

Jeff Zekauskas: Yeah.

Corning Painter: So Thailand, number 1, to the US. And I, I guess I'm not really prepared, Jeff, to go through country by country, how they look from here and, and from there, to be, to be honest with you. But I'd say in general, though, the pattern of trade flows and the pattern of that underlying consumer behavior going back to Tier 2 being the biggest and Tier 1 being the second, like, that's what it used to be. And so I think that's a really fundamental positive shift in terms of the underlying demand, and I think that's going to be good for our customers. I would also say, I think the general pattern of trade flows and tariffs, yeah, are moving this in a similar direction. But, you know, from our perspective, we're not banking on that. At this point, we're taking action.

Speaker #3: And I guess I'm not really prepared, Jeff, to go through country by country—how does it look from here and from there, to be honest with you.

Speaker #3: I'd say, in general, though, the pattern of trade flows and the pattern of that underlying consumer behavior—going back to tier two being the biggest and tier one being the second—that's what it used to be.

Speaker #3: And so I think that's a really fundamental positive shift in terms of the underlying demand. And I think that's going to be good for our customers.

Corning Painter: And so I think that's a really fundamental positive shift in terms of the underlying demand, and I think that's going to be good for our customers. I would also say, I think the general pattern of trade flows and tariffs, yeah, are moving this in a similar direction. But, you know, from our perspective, we're not banking on that. At this point, we're taking action.

Speaker #3: I would also say I think the general pattern of trade flows and tariffs are moving this in a similar direction. But from our perspective, we're not banking on that at this point.

Speaker #3: We're taking action.

Speaker #1: Maybe as a last question, when Laporte comes on, how much depreciation will that add in annual terms?

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Maybe as a last question, when, when La Porte comes on, how much depreciation will that add in annual terms?

Jeff Zekauskas: Maybe as a last question, when, when La Porte comes on, how much depreciation will that add in annual terms?

Speaker #3: I'd say in the neighborhood of maybe $10 million.

Corning Painter: I'd say in the neighborhood of maybe $10 million.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): 10? Okay, great.

Jeff Zekauskas: 10? Okay, great.

Speaker #1: 10? Okay. Great. All right. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks so much. Sorry for so many questions.

Corning Painter: Yeah.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): All right. Thanks, yeah, thanks so much. Sorry for so many questions.

Jeff Zekauskas: All right. Thanks, yeah, thanks so much. Sorry for so many questions.

Speaker #3: Now, Jeff, it's always a pleasure.

Corning Painter: Yeah, Jeff, it's always a pleasure.

Speaker #1: Yep.

[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Yep.

Jeff Zekauskas: Yep.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our last and final question is from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our last and final question is from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #5: Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking my follow-up. I wanted to ask just on the cost side of things. I mean, I think when I was looking at particularly rubber over most of 2025, between some outages in Q1 and inventory revaluations through Q2 and Q3, there's maybe about $20 million of costs that last year we were calling more one-timing.

[Analyst] (UBS): Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking my follow-up. I wanted to ask just on the cost side of things. I mean, I think when I was looking at particularly rubber over most of 2025, you know, between some outages in Q1 and inventory revaluations through the Q2 and Q3, there's maybe about $20 million of costs that last year we were calling more one-timey. Are you adding that back into your guidance, or are there other offsets to that that we should be considering in the 2026 bridge?

Josh Spector: Yeah, hi. Thanks for taking my follow-up. I wanted to ask just on the cost side of things. I mean, I think when I was looking at particularly rubber over most of 2025, you know, between some outages in Q1 and inventory revaluations through the Q2 and Q3, there's maybe about $20 million of costs that last year we were calling more one-timey. Are you adding that back into your guidance, or are there other offsets to that that we should be considering in the 2026 bridge?

Speaker #5: Are you adding that back into your guidance, or are there other offsets to that that we should be considering in the 2026 bridge?

Speaker #3: Yeah. So I think as we think about it, I'm not sure we would come to the same conclusions about the number of one-offs. Certainly, inventory revaluation for all our listeners, I know you know this, Josh, it's really based on the movement of oil price.

Corning Painter: Yeah. So I think as we think about it, I'm not sure we would come to the same conclusions about the number of one-offs. Certainly, inventory revaluation for all our listeners, I know you know this, Josh, is really based on the movement of oil price and therefore the value of our inventories. So that'll move with the overall oil situation. There's no other, like, really dramatic fundamentals moving that other than the general leaning out of the company, even further this year. You know, we took actions last year, and we take additional actions this year. Does that help, Josh?

Speaker #3: And therefore, the value of our inventories. So that'll move with the overall oil situation. There's no other really dramatic fundamentals moving that other than the general leaning out of the company even further this year, which took actions last year.

Corning Painter: There's no other, like, really dramatic fundamentals moving that other than the general leaning out of the company, even further this year. You know, we took actions last year, and we take additional actions this year. Does that help, Josh?

Speaker #3: We take additional actions this year. Does that help, Josh?

[Analyst] (UBS): Oh, yeah, that does. I can follow up more offline. The other one I wanted to ask about, kind of the same line of thinking, is just with La Porte, when you're talking about a 2027 start, does that mean there's no real startup costs in 2026, that mostly remains in capital, and we'll see that in 2027? Or is some of that layered into 2026 at all?

Josh Spector: Oh, yeah, that does. I can follow up more offline. The other one I wanted to ask about, kind of the same line of thinking, is just with La Porte, when you're talking about a 2027 start, does that mean there's no real startup costs in 2026, that mostly remains in capital, and we'll see that in 2027? Or is some of that layered into 2026 at all?

Speaker #5: Yep. Yeah, that does. And I can follow up more offline. The other one I wanted to ask about, kind of in the same line of thinking, is just with Laporte. When you're talking about a 2027 start, does that mean there's no real startup costs in 2026?

Speaker #5: Is that mostly remains in capital and we'll see that in '27? Or is some of that layered into '26 at all?

Speaker #3: No, they'll be mainly '27.

Corning Painter: No, that'll be mainly 2027.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you.

[Analyst] (UBS): Okay, thank you.

Josh Spector: Okay, thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Corning Painter for closing comments.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Corning Painter for closing comments.

Speaker #3: All right. Hey, we appreciate everyone's time today. And for the analysts, we appreciate your insightful questions. Thank you very much for that. We're looking forward to speaking with many of you over the next couple of days.

Corning Painter: All right. Hey, we appreciate everyone's time today, and for the, the analysts, we appreciate your insightful questions. Thank you very much for that. We're looking forward to speaking with many of you over the next couple of days, and, we'll be out on the road at a couple investor forums in March, and hope to see some other people there. Anyway, have a good rest of your day. Thank you very much.

Speaker #3: And we'll be out on the road at a couple of investor forums in March, and hope to see some other people there. Anyway, have a good rest of your day.

Speaker #3: Thank you very much.

Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's conference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's conference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.

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