Q3 2026 Aethlon Medical Inc Earnings Call

February 12, 2026

Speaker #3: Good day and welcome to the AETHLON MEDICAL III QUARTER FISCAL 2026 EARNINGS & CORPORATE UPDATE CONFERENCE CALL. All participants will be in listen-only mode.

Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Aethlon Medical Third Quarter Fiscal 2026 Earnings and Corporate Update Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to CEO and CFO, Jim Frakes. Please go ahead.

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Speaker #3: I would now like to turn the conference over to CEO and CFO, Jim Frakes. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Thank you, operator. And good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Aethlon Medical's fiscal Q3 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Jim Frakes, and I'm the Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer of Aethlon Medical.

Jim Frakes: Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Aethlon Medical's fiscal third quarter, 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Jim Frakes, and I'm the Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer of Aethlon Medical. At 4:15 PM, Eastern Time today, Aethlon Medical released financial results for its fiscal third quarter, ended December 31, 2025. If you have not seen or received Aethlon Medical's earnings release, please visit the investors page at www.aethlonmedical.com to view it. Following this introduction and the reading of the company's forward-looking statement disclaimer, Dr. Steven LaRosa, our Chief Medical Officer, and I will provide an overview of Aethlon's strategy and recent developments. I will then make some brief remarks on Aethlon's financials. We will then open up the call for the Q&A session.

Speaker #4: At 4:15 PM Eastern Time today, Aethlon Medical released financial results for its fiscal third quarter ended December 31, 2025. If you have not seen or received Aethlon Medical's earnings release, please visit the investors page at www.aethlonmedical.com to view it.

Speaker #4: Following this introduction and the reading of the company's forward-looking statement disclaimer, Dr. Steven Larosa, our Chief Medical Officer and I, will provide an overview of AETHLON's strategy and recent developments.

Speaker #4: I will then make some brief remarks on Aethlon’s financials. We will then open up the call for the Q&A session. Before we start the business portion of the call, please note that the news released today and this call contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended.

Jim Frakes: Before we start the business portion of the call, please note that the news release today and this call contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. The company cautions you that any statement that is not a statement of historical fact is a forward-looking statement. These statements are based on expectations and assumptions as of the date of this conference call. Such forward-looking statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from the results anticipated in the forward-looking statements.

Speaker #4: The company cautions you that any statement that is not a statement of historical fact is a forward-looking statement. These statements are based on expectations and assumptions as of the date of this conference call.

Speaker #4: Such forward-looking statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from the results anticipated in the forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause results to differ materially from those anticipated in forward-looking statements can be found under the caption risk factors.

Jim Frakes: Factors that could cause results to differ materially from those anticipated in forward-looking statements can be found under the caption Risk Factors in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2025, the company's most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q, and in the company's other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Except as may be required by law, the company does not intend, nor does it undertake any duty to update this information to reflect future events or circumstances. Now, I would like to begin by highlighting progress during the December quarter and early calendar 2026, as we continue to execute against our strategy of advancing the Hemopurifier platform while maintaining disciplined cost control.

Speaker #4: In the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2025, the company's 10-Q, and in the company's other filings with the securities and exchange commission.

Speaker #4: Except as may be required by law, the company does not intend, nor does it undertake any duty, to update this information to reflect future events or circumstances.

Speaker #4: Now, I would like to begin by highlighting progress during the December quarter and early calendar 2026, as we continue to execute against our strategy of advancing the Hemopurifier platform while maintaining disciplined cost control.

Speaker #4: Key developments include continued enrollment and treatment progress in our Australian oncology trial, ongoing expansion of our extracellular vesicle or EV research platform, supporting the hemopurifier as a potential multi-indication therapeutic, advancement of work evaluating hemopurifier compatibility with a simplified blood treatment system that could expand future clinical and commercial flexibility, and sustained operating expense reductions on a year-to-date basis compared to the prior year.

Jim Frakes: Key developments include continued enrollment and treatment progress in our Australian oncology trial, ongoing expansion of our extracellular vesicle, or EV, research platform, supporting the Hemopurifier as a potential multi-indication therapeutic, advancement of work evaluating Hemopurifier compatibility with a simplified blood treatment system that could expand future clinical and commercial flexibility, and sustained operating expense reductions on a year-to-date basis compared to the prior year. Now, I will turn the call over to Dr. LaRosa, who will cover updates on the Australian oncology trial and on our R&D efforts. Steve?

Speaker #4: And now, I will turn the call over to Dr. Larosa who will cover updates on the Australian oncology trial and on our R&D efforts.

Speaker #4: Steve?

Speaker #5: Thank you, Jim. Ongoing progress has been made in our Australian oncology trial of the Hemopurifier and participants with solid tumors not responding to a treatment regimen that includes immunotherapy with the anti-PD-1 agents, pembrolizumab, known as Keytruda, or nivolumab, known as Opdivo.

Steven P. LaRosa: Thank you, Jim. Ongoing progress has been made in our Australian oncology trial of the Hemopurifier in participants with solid tumors not responding to a treatment regimen that includes immunotherapy with the anti-PD-1 agent pembrolizumab, known as Keytruda, or nivolumab, known as Opdivo. We have previously reported the successful completion of the first cohort, where 3 participants received a single Hemopurifier treatment without any device-related serious adverse events or dose-limiting toxicities. Favorable directional improvement in EV numbers and immune cell numbers were observed in this cohort with the HP treatment. We have now completed 2 HP treatments in 2 participants in the second cohort of the trial. We have also recently enrolled a third patient who is past screening and is due to receive the 2 Hemopurifier treatments by the end of March. Excuse me, by the end of February.

Steven LaRosa: Thank you, Jim. Ongoing progress has been made in our Australian oncology trial of the Hemopurifier in participants with solid tumors not responding to a treatment regimen that includes immunotherapy with the anti-PD-1 agent pembrolizumab, known as Keytruda, or nivolumab, known as Opdivo. We have previously reported the successful completion of the first cohort, where 3 participants received a single Hemopurifier treatment without any device-related serious adverse events or dose-limiting toxicities. Favorable directional improvement in EV numbers and immune cell numbers were observed in this cohort with the HP treatment. We have now completed 2 HP treatments in 2 participants in the second cohort of the trial. We have also recently enrolled a third patient who is past screening and is due to receive the 2 Hemopurifier treatments by the end of March. Excuse me, by the end of February.

Speaker #5: We have previously reported the successful completion of the first cohort, where three participants received a single Hemopurifier treatment without any device-related serious adverse events or dose-limiting toxicities.

Speaker #5: Favorable directional improvement in EV numbers and immune cell numbers were observed in this cohort with the HP treatment. We have now completed two HP treatments in two participants in the second cohort of the trial.

Speaker #5: We have also recently enrolled a third patient who has passed screening and is due to receive the two Hemopurifier treatments by the end of March.

Speaker #5: Excuse me, by the end of February, once the three patients have completed treatment in cohort two, safety data will be presented to an independent data safety monitoring board.

Steven P. LaRosa: Once the three patients have completed treatment in Cohort 2, the safety data will be presented to an independent data safety monitoring board. We are targeting late March for this meeting. The DSMB will provide Aethlon Medical with a recommendation to either advance to the third and final cohort of the trial, where patients will get three Hemopurifier treatments in a given week, or they may require three additional patients in the current cohort. Aethlon has noted an uptick in the number of interested potential participants in this study since we contracted the groups, TrialFax, and Dedicated. TrialFax performs online advertising of the trial, while Dedicated performs phone pre-screening of interested participants. Participants who pass this initial screening are then referred on to the three investigative sites for informed consent and more detailed screening.

Steven LaRosa: Once the three patients have completed treatment in Cohort 2, the safety data will be presented to an independent data safety monitoring board. We are targeting late March for this meeting. The DSMB will provide Aethlon Medical with a recommendation to either advance to the third and final cohort of the trial, where patients will get three Hemopurifier treatments in a given week, or they may require three additional patients in the current cohort. Aethlon has noted an uptick in the number of interested potential participants in this study since we contracted the groups, TrialFax, and Dedicated. TrialFax performs online advertising of the trial, while Dedicated performs phone pre-screening of interested participants. Participants who pass this initial screening are then referred on to the three investigative sites for informed consent and more detailed screening.

Speaker #5: We are targeting late March for this meeting. The DSMB will provide AETHLON MEDICAL with a recommended date to either advance to the third and final cohort of the trial where patients will get three hemopurifier treatments in a given week, or they may require three additional patients in the current cohort.

Speaker #5: AETHLON has noted an uptick in the number of interested potential participants in this study since we contracted the group's trial fax and dedicated. Trial fax performs online advertising of the trial while dedicated performs phone pre-screening of interested participants.

Speaker #5: Participants who pass this initial screening are then referred on to the three investigative sites for informed consent and more detailed screening. This process has already resulted in HP treatment treated patients in the study and has provided a pool of potential future participants for cohort three of the study.

Steven P. LaRosa: This process has already resulted in HP treatment, treated patients in the study, and has provided a pool of potential future participants for cohort three of the study. As a reminder, this 9 to 18 patient safety, feasibility, and dose-finding trial is in patients with solid tumors with stable or progressive disease while on a treatment regimen that includes either Keytruda or Opdivo. Patients who meet all exclusion, all inclusion and no exclusion criteria are enrolled in sequential cohorts to receive 1, 2, or 3 Hemopurifier treatments during a treated-treatment week. In addition to monitoring safety, the study is designed to examine the number of Hemopurifier treatments needed to decrease the concentration of extracellular vesicles, and if these changes in EV concentrations improves the body's own natural ability to attack tumor cells.

Steven LaRosa: This process has already resulted in HP treatment, treated patients in the study, and has provided a pool of potential future participants for cohort three of the study. As a reminder, this 9 to 18 patient safety, feasibility, and dose-finding trial is in patients with solid tumors with stable or progressive disease while on a treatment regimen that includes either Keytruda or Opdivo. Patients who meet all exclusion, all inclusion and no exclusion criteria are enrolled in sequential cohorts to receive 1, 2, or 3 Hemopurifier treatments during a treated-treatment week. In addition to monitoring safety, the study is designed to examine the number of Hemopurifier treatments needed to decrease the concentration of extracellular vesicles, and if these changes in EV concentrations improves the body's own natural ability to attack tumor cells.

Speaker #5: As a reminder, this 9- to 18-patient safety, feasibility, and dose-finding trial is in patients with solid tumors with stable or progressive disease while on a treatment regimen that includes either Keytruda or Opdivo.

Speaker #5: Patients who meet all exclusion, all inclusion, and no exclusion criteria are enrolled in sequential cohorts to receive one, two, or three hemopurifier treatments during a treatment week.

Speaker #5: In addition to monitoring safety, the study is designed to examine the number of Hemopurifier treatments needed to decrease the concentration of extracellular vesicles, and if these changes in EV concentrations improve the body's own natural ability to attack tumor cells.

Speaker #5: The scientific rationale and full design of this study have recently been published in the peer-reviewed journal BMJ Open and the link to this article can be found on the AETHLON MEDICAL website.

Steven P. LaRosa: The scientific rationale and full design of this study have recently been published in the peer-reviewed journal, BMJ Open, and a link to this article can be found on the Aethlon Medical website. I'll now change gears and talk about the R&D update. Under a material transfer agreement, Stavro is studying the compatibility of the Hemopurifier with their SLAM system. This system utilizes a single small lumen vascular catheter and a simplified blood pump, compared to the large double lumen vascular catheter and more complicated dialysis machines typically used for the treatment. This research could lead to a simplified system for performing Hemopurifier treatments in oncology units and infusion centers in the future, without the requirement to use a large double-lumen dialysis catheter, a bed and a dialysis unit, a dialysis machine, or a supervising nephrologist.

Steven LaRosa: The scientific rationale and full design of this study have recently been published in the peer-reviewed journal, BMJ Open, and a link to this article can be found on the Aethlon Medical website. I'll now change gears and talk about the R&D update. Under a material transfer agreement, Stavro is studying the compatibility of the Hemopurifier with their SLAM system. This system utilizes a single small lumen vascular catheter and a simplified blood pump, compared to the large double lumen vascular catheter and more complicated dialysis machines typically used for the treatment. This research could lead to a simplified system for performing Hemopurifier treatments in oncology units and infusion centers in the future, without the requirement to use a large double-lumen dialysis catheter, a bed and a dialysis unit, a dialysis machine, or a supervising nephrologist.

Speaker #5: I'll now change gears and talk about the R&D update. Under a material transfer agreement, Stavro is studying the compatibility of the Hemopurifier with their SLAMB SLAM system.

Speaker #5: This system utilizes a single small-lumen vascular catheter and a simplified blood pump, compared to the large double-lumen vascular catheter and more complicated dialysis machines typically used for the treatment.

Speaker #5: This research could lead to a simplified system for performing hemopurifier treatments in oncology units and in infusion centers in the future. Without the requirement to use a large double lumen dialysis catheter, a bed in a dialysis unit, a dialysis machine, or a supervising nephrologist.

Speaker #5: The AETHLON MEDICAL R&D team continues to attempt to build on our pre-clinical data in long COVID. We have previously shown that the GNA affinity resin in the hemopurifier binds EVs in long COVID patient samples and decreases microRNAs known to cause immune dysregulation.

Steven P. LaRosa: The Aethlon Medical R&D team continues to attempt to build on our preclinical data in Long COVID. We have previously shown that the GNA affinity resin in the Hemopurifier binds EVs in Long COVID patient samples and decreases microRNAs known to cause immune dysregulation. This data has been published in the preprint server bioRxiv and has been submitted for consideration in a peer-reviewed journal. We are now exploring possibilities of investigating other cargo within the EVs, such as viral particles, with our technology. Extracellular vesicles, including platelet-derived EVs, have been implicated in the pathogenesis of a myriad of indications in addition to cancer, including but not limited to lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic sclerosis, multiple sclerosis, cardiovascular diseases, sepsis, and ALS. Aethlon previously published data on the removal of platelet-derived EVs from healthy plasma by the Hemopurifier in the preprint server bioRxiv.

Steven LaRosa: The Aethlon Medical R&D team continues to attempt to build on our preclinical data in Long COVID. We have previously shown that the GNA affinity resin in the Hemopurifier binds EVs in Long COVID patient samples and decreases microRNAs known to cause immune dysregulation. This data has been published in the preprint server bioRxiv and has been submitted for consideration in a peer-reviewed journal. We are now exploring possibilities of investigating other cargo within the EVs, such as viral particles, with our technology. Extracellular vesicles, including platelet-derived EVs, have been implicated in the pathogenesis of a myriad of indications in addition to cancer, including but not limited to lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic sclerosis, multiple sclerosis, cardiovascular diseases, sepsis, and ALS. Aethlon previously published data on the removal of platelet-derived EVs from healthy plasma by the Hemopurifier in the preprint server bioRxiv.

Speaker #5: This data has been published in the preprint server BioRxIV and has been submitted for consideration in a peer-reviewed journal. We are now exploring possibilities of investigating other cargo within the EVs such as viral particles with our technology.

Speaker #5: Extracellular vesicles, including platelet-derived EVs, have been implicated in the pathogenesis of a myriad of indications in addition to cancer, including, but not limited to, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic sclerosis, multiple sclerosis, cardiovascular diseases, sepsis, and ALS.

Speaker #5: AETHLON previously published data on the removal of platelet-derived EVs from healthy plasma by the hemopurifier in the preprint server BioRxIV. We plan to further this work by examining platelet-derived EV and microRNA removal by hemopurifier by the hemopurifier in patients with some of these indications.

Steven P. LaRosa: We plan to further this work by examining platelet-derived EV and microRNA removal by Hemopurifier, by the Hemopurifier in patients, with some of these indications, so disease plasma, to further this work. This approach is in line with our thinking that the Aethlon Hemopurifier may provide a pipeline within a single device. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim for the financial discussion.

Steven LaRosa: We plan to further this work by examining platelet-derived EV and microRNA removal by Hemopurifier, by the Hemopurifier in patients, with some of these indications, so disease plasma, to further this work. This approach is in line with our thinking that the Aethlon Hemopurifier may provide a pipeline within a single device. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim for the financial discussion.

Speaker #5: So, disease plasma to further this work. This approach is in line with our thinking that the Aethlon Hemopurifier may provide a pipeline within a single device.

Speaker #5: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim for the financial discussion.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Steve. And good afternoon again, everyone. Turning briefly to the financials, as of December 31, 2025, we had a cash balance of approximately $7 million.

Jim Frakes: Thanks, Steve, and good afternoon again, everyone. Turning briefly to the financials, as of December 31, 2025, we had a cash balance of approximately $7 million. Our consolidated operating expenses for the three months ended December 31, 2025, were approximately $2.06 million, up $250,000 or 13.6% compared to the same period last year. This increase was primarily due to higher payroll and related costs, partially offset by lower clinical trial expenses and reduced professional fees, mainly from investor relations activities. As a result, the operating loss for the quarter increased to $2.06 million compared to $1.81 million in the prior year period. Other income, primarily interest income earned on cash balances, was $44,000, slightly lower than the $60,000 recorded in the same quarter last year.

Speaker #4: Our consolidated operating expenses for the three months ended December 31, 2025, were approximately $2.06 million. Up $250,000 or $13.6% compared to the same period last year.

Speaker #4: This increase was primarily due to higher payroll and related costs partially offset by lower clinical trial expenses and reduced professional fees. Mainly from investor relations activities.

Speaker #4: As a result, the operating loss for the quarter increased to $2.06 million compared to $1.81 million in the prior year period. Other income primarily interest income earned on cash balances was $44,000, slightly lower than the $60,000 recorded in the same quarter last year.

Speaker #4: Looking at the nine-month period, our operating expenses decreased significantly to $5.36 million down $1.98 million or $27% from $7.34 million last year. This improvement reflects lower payroll, general and administrative costs, and professional fees highlighting the impact of our ongoing cost management initiatives.

Jim Frakes: Looking at the 9-month period, our operating expenses decreased significantly to $5.36 million, down $1.98 million, or 27%, from $7.34 million last year. This improvement reflects lower payroll, general and administrative costs, and professional fees, highlighting the impact of our ongoing cost management initiatives. You can find more detail on these expense changes in our 10-Q, which breaks down specific drivers by category. We included these earnings results and related commentary in our press release issued this afternoon. The release also included the balance sheet for 31 December 2025, and the statements of operations for the three- and nine-month periods ended 31 December 2025 and 2024. We will file our quarterly report on Form 10-Q following this call.

Speaker #4: You can find more detail on these expense changes in our 10Q, which breaks down specific drivers by category. We included these earnings results and related commentary in our press release issued this afternoon.

Speaker #4: The release also included the balance sheet for December 31, 2025, and the statements of operations for the three and nine-month periods ended December 31, 2025, and 2024.

Speaker #4: We will file our quarterly report on Form 10-Q following this call. Our next earnings call for the fiscal fourth quarter ending March 31, 2026, will coincide with the filing of our annual report on Form 10-K in June 2026.

Jim Frakes: Our next earnings call for the fiscal Q4, ending 31 March 2026, will coincide with the filing of our annual report on Form 10-K in June 2026. Now, we would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Operator, please open the call for questions.

Speaker #4: And now we would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Operator, please open the call for questions.

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Speaker #5: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Marla Marin with Zachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Thank you. So I just want to touch on some of the things that you mentioned in the prepared remarks. You've moved on in the trial to cohort two.

M. Marin: Thank you. So I just want to touch on some of the things that you mentioned in the prepared remarks. You've moved on in the trial to Cohort 2. Given, you know, that the part of the trial's goal is to determine dosage or the number of Hemopurifier treatments, and impact that they have on the trial participant. So now you will be administering the treatment twice, instead of with Cohort 1, the one-time treatment. But the participants are involved in the trial for the same length of time. Is that correct?

Marla Marin: Thank you. So I just want to touch on some of the things that you mentioned in the prepared remarks. You've moved on in the trial to Cohort 2. Given, you know, that the part of the trial's goal is to determine dosage or the number of Hemopurifier treatments, and impact that they have on the trial participant. So now you will be administering the treatment twice, instead of with Cohort 1, the one-time treatment. But the participants are involved in the trial for the same length of time. Is that correct?

Speaker #6: And given that part of the trial’s goal is to determine dosage, or the number of Hemopurifier treatments and the impact they have on the trial participant, so now you will be administering the treatment twice.

Speaker #6: Instead of with cohort one, the one-time treatment. But the participants are involved in the trial for the same length of time. Is that correct?

Speaker #4: It's the same follow-up period. The difference, as you correctly stated, was instead of getting one Hemopurifier treatment in cohort one and cohort two, they get two.

Steven P. LaRosa: It's the same follow-up period. The difference, as you correctly stated, was instead of getting one Hemopurifier treatment in Cohort one and Cohort two, they get two. So they get it typically on a Monday or Monday and Friday. So, you know, a number of days in between, and we'll be able to see the kinetics of how what the EV numbers do in between treatments.

Steven LaRosa: It's the same follow-up period. The difference, as you correctly stated, was instead of getting one Hemopurifier treatment in Cohort one and Cohort two, they get two. So they get it typically on a Monday or Monday and Friday. So, you know, a number of days in between, and we'll be able to see the kinetics of how what the EV numbers do in between treatments.

Speaker #4: So they get it typically on a Monday and Friday. So a number of days in between. And we'll be able to see the kinetics of how what the EV numbers do in between treatments.

Speaker #4: And then we'll also see if the two treatments lead to more long-lasting decreases in EVs and more long-lasting effects on T cells compared to what we saw in the first cohort.

M. Marin: Mm-hmm.

Marla Marin: Mm-hmm.

Steven P. LaRosa: And then we'll also see if the two treatments lead to more long-lasting decreases in EVs and more long-lasting effects on T-cells compared to what we saw in the first cohort.

Steven LaRosa: And then we'll also see if the two treatments lead to more long-lasting decreases in EVs and more long-lasting effects on T-cells compared to what we saw in the first cohort.

M. Marin: Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay, thank you for clarifying that. Okay, so then my next question is, if it turns out that the investigating the potential to connect the Hemopurifier to, I think you called it the SLAM System, can you give us some indication of, like, what that would mean in terms of potentially opening new doors or facilitating your ability to get the Hemopurifier into different medical centers, potentially down the road?

Marla Marin: Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay, thank you for clarifying that. Okay, so then my next question is, if it turns out that the investigating the potential to connect the Hemopurifier to, I think you called it the SLAM System, can you give us some indication of, like, what that would mean in terms of potentially opening new doors or facilitating your ability to get the Hemopurifier into different medical centers, potentially down the road?

Speaker #6: Okay. Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. Okay. Did somebody okay. So okay. Then my next question is, if it turns out that the investigating the potential to connect the hemopurifier to, I think you called it the SLAM system, can you give us some indication of what that would mean in terms of potentially opening new doors or facilitating your ability to get the hemopurifier into different medical centers potentially down the road?

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah, sure. Yeah, so right now, Marla, you have to put in a dialysis catheter, which is a fairly, you know, we call it kind of in medicine circles, we call it a garden hose. It's a large bore catheter with two lumens, one that you take blood out, and then one you return the blood in. That's a pretty invasive device. The SLAM System uses a much smaller single lumen catheter that wouldn't have to be put in the neck. So, you know, in hospitals where there are these things called PICC lines, that are pretty much become ubiquitous, that are these small, thin catheters that can be put in the crook of the arm, that's what I would envision. So that would be a big change in terms of the invasiveness of the catheter.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah, sure. Yeah, so right now, Marla, you have to put in a dialysis catheter, which is a fairly, you know, we call it kind of in medicine circles, we call it a garden hose. It's a large bore catheter with two lumens, one that you take blood out, and then one you return the blood in. That's a pretty invasive device. The SLAM System uses a much smaller single lumen catheter that wouldn't have to be put in the neck. So, you know, in hospitals where there are these things called PICC lines, that are pretty much become ubiquitous, that are these small, thin catheters that can be put in the crook of the arm, that's what I would envision. So that would be a big change in terms of the invasiveness of the catheter.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So right now, Marla, you have to put in a dialysis catheter, which is a fairly we call it kind of in medicine circles, we call it a garden hose.

Speaker #4: It's a large bore catheter with two lumens, one that you take blood out, and then when you return the blood in. That's a pretty invasive device.

Speaker #4: The SLAM system uses a much smaller single-lumen catheter that wouldn't have to be put in the neck. So in hospitals where there are these things called PICC lines that are pretty much become ubiquitous, that are these small, thin catheters that can be put in the crook of the arm.

Speaker #4: That's what I would envision. So that would be a big change in terms of the invasiveness of the catheter. Currently, for the Hemopurifier, we use a dialysis machine to run it.

Steven P. LaRosa: Currently, for the Hemopurifier, we use a dialysis machine to run it. We're solely using, really, the blood pump mechanism of the dialysis machine. We're not using all the other bells and whistles that a dialysis machine has, 'cause we're not removing any fluids or electrolytes. So we're at the mercy of a dialysis machine, securing a bed in a dialysis unit, because that's the only place dialysis can be done in the hospital, and having a treating nephrologist, because they're the ones who are skilled in using the dialysis machine. So with this SLAM system, you'd have a single lumen catheter with a simplified pump, which presumably would be much easier from an operator standpoint.

Steven LaRosa: Currently, for the Hemopurifier, we use a dialysis machine to run it. We're solely using, really, the blood pump mechanism of the dialysis machine. We're not using all the other bells and whistles that a dialysis machine has, 'cause we're not removing any fluids or electrolytes. So we're at the mercy of a dialysis machine, securing a bed in a dialysis unit, because that's the only place dialysis can be done in the hospital, and having a treating nephrologist, because they're the ones who are skilled in using the dialysis machine. So with this SLAM system, you'd have a single lumen catheter with a simplified pump, which presumably would be much easier from an operator standpoint.

Speaker #4: We're really just using the blood pump mechanism of the machine. We're not using all the other bells and whistles that a dialysis machine has, because we're not removing any fluids or electrolytes.

Speaker #4: So we're at the mercy of a dialysis machine, securing a bed in a dialysis unit, because that's the only place dialysis can be done in the hospital.

Speaker #4: And having a treating nephrologist, because they're the ones who are skilled in using the dialysis machine. So with this SLAM system, you'd have a single-lumen catheter with a simplified pump, which presumably would be much easier from an operator's standpoint.

Speaker #4: So that opens the ability to do this potentially in a oncology unit where people get their chemotherapy infusions or even in infusion centers, which most hospitals have in their ambulatory centers.

Steven P. LaRosa: So that opens the ability to do this potentially in an oncology unit, where people get their chemotherapy infusions, or even in infusion centers, which most hospitals have in their ambulatory centers. So it really opens the door to doing this, you know, in oncology units, as well as in, if, say, if it was a patient with autoimmune disease that gets an infusion of whatever immunosuppressive, those kind of units. So it really kind of removes you from the dialysis space, potentially.

Steven LaRosa: So that opens the ability to do this potentially in an oncology unit, where people get their chemotherapy infusions, or even in infusion centers, which most hospitals have in their ambulatory centers. So it really opens the door to doing this, you know, in oncology units, as well as in, if, say, if it was a patient with autoimmune disease that gets an infusion of whatever immunosuppressive, those kind of units. So it really kind of removes you from the dialysis space, potentially.

Speaker #4: So it really opens the door to doing this in oncology units as well as in, say, if it was a patient with autoimmune disease that gets an infusion of what other immunosuppressive, those kind of units.

Speaker #4: So it really kind of removes you from the dialysis space. Potentially.

M. Marin: So, just to make sure I understand, it removes you from that dialysis space and makes it much simpler for the hospital staff to administer the treatment, but also from the patient's perspective, it makes it less invasive and probably less daunting to receive the treatment. Is that the right way to think about it?

Marla Marin: So, just to make sure I understand, it removes you from that dialysis space and makes it much simpler for the hospital staff to administer the treatment, but also from the patient's perspective, it makes it less invasive and probably less daunting to receive the treatment. Is that the right way to think about it?

Speaker #6: So just to make sure I understand, it removes you from that dialysis space and makes it much simpler for the hospital staff to administer the treatment, but also from the patient's perspective, it makes it less invasive and probably less daunting to receive the treatment.

Speaker #6: Is that the right way to think about it?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Yeah. Because as I say, these PICC lines, they're typically put in what we call the antecubital fossa. That's the space in between your forearm and your upper arm, right, in front of your elbow.

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause I, as I say, these PICC lines, they're typically put in what we call the Antecubital Fossa. That's the space in between your, your forearm and your upper arm, right, right in front of your elbow. Getting a thin catheter there is a lot less daunting to a patient than getting a large catheter placed up in their neck. They're also easier to take care of as well. They tend to have less complications. So yeah, I think that from a patient perspective, I'd much rather have one of these catheters than a dialysis catheter, and I'd much rather be able to stay in my therapeutic home, meaning I'm going to an oncology unit to get my immunotherapy.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause I, as I say, these PICC lines, they're typically put in what we call the Antecubital Fossa. That's the space in between your, your forearm and your upper arm, right, right in front of your elbow. Getting a thin catheter there is a lot less daunting to a patient than getting a large catheter placed up in their neck. They're also easier to take care of as well. They tend to have less complications. So yeah, I think that from a patient perspective, I'd much rather have one of these catheters than a dialysis catheter, and I'd much rather be able to stay in my therapeutic home, meaning I'm going to an oncology unit to get my immunotherapy.

Speaker #4: Getting a thin catheter there is a lot less daunting to a patient than getting a large catheter placed up in their neck. And they're also easier to take care of as well.

Speaker #4: They tend to have less complications. So yeah, I think that from a patient perspective, I'd much rather have one of these catheters than a dialysis catheter.

Speaker #4: And I'd much rather be able to stay in my therapeutic home, meaning I'm going to an oncology unit to get my immunotherapy. I'd like to get my EV removal treatment in the same place and not have to go to a dialysis unit to have that done, which is what has to happen now.

Steven P. LaRosa: I'd like to get my EV removal treatment in the same place and not have to go to a dialysis unit to have that done, which is what has to happen now. So it just makes it more integrated into care.

Steven LaRosa: I'd like to get my EV removal treatment in the same place and not have to go to a dialysis unit to have that done, which is what has to happen now. So it just makes it more integrated into care.

Speaker #4: So it just makes it more integrated into care.

Speaker #6: Got it. Okay. Thank you for that. Last question from me. Jim, I know that you are extremely cost-conscious about just about everything that the company is doing.

M. Marin: Got it. Okay. Thank you for that. Last question from me. Jim, I know that you, you know, you are extremely cost conscious, you know, about just about everything that the company is doing, and trying to, you know, make sure you maximize your, your R&D spend and your, your operating costs, optimize the operating costs. So in the press release and in the prepared remarks, you did talk about, you know, building upon some of the preclinical research that you had done. Can you just talk a little bit about, you know, confirm that everything you're doing is, you know, consistent with that same very cost-effective approach you're taking generally, and how you're able to, you know, you know, do some of what you're doing, like the Long COVID, in a cost-effective manner?

Marla Marin: Got it. Okay. Thank you for that. Last question from me. Jim, I know that you, you know, you are extremely cost conscious, you know, about just about everything that the company is doing, and trying to, you know, make sure you maximize your, your R&D spend and your, your operating costs, optimize the operating costs. So in the press release and in the prepared remarks, you did talk about, you know, building upon some of the preclinical research that you had done. Can you just talk a little bit about, you know, confirm that everything you're doing is, you know, consistent with that same very cost-effective approach you're taking generally, and how you're able to, you know, you know, do some of what you're doing, like the Long COVID, in a cost-effective manner?

Speaker #6: And trying to make sure you maximize your R&D spend and your operating costs optimize the operating costs. So in the press release and in the prepared remarks, you did talk about building upon some of the preclinical research that you had done.

Speaker #6: Can you just talk a little bit about—confirm that everything you're doing is consistent with that same very cost-effective approach you're taking generally? And how you're able to do some of what you're doing, like the long COVID, in a cost-effective manner?

Speaker #4: Right. Well, you're right. I can't escape my Scottish heritage, I guess. On the cost containment front, we're trying to keep costs down as much as we can, yet still advance.

Steven P. LaRosa: Right. Well, you're, you're right. I, I, I can't escape my Scottish heritage, I guess, on the, on the cost containment front. We're trying to keep costs down as much as we can, yet still advance. So, we're, we're trying to obtain samples just for shipping costs, basically, to the extent we can. We're trying to do the work in-house with our in-house with our small scientific staff. Trying to limit the work by outside labs, so but yet still advance. So, we, you know, we're publishing articles, we are learning things. I, I, you know, it's we have to make trade-offs, but we do feel like we're advancing it, Marla.

Steven LaRosa: Right. Well, you're, you're right. I, I, I can't escape my Scottish heritage, I guess, on the, on the cost containment front. We're trying to keep costs down as much as we can, yet still advance. So, we're, we're trying to obtain samples just for shipping costs, basically, to the extent we can. We're trying to do the work in-house with our in-house with our small scientific staff. Trying to limit the work by outside labs, so but yet still advance. So, we, you know, we're publishing articles, we are learning things. I, I, you know, it's we have to make trade-offs, but we do feel like we're advancing it, Marla.

Speaker #4: So we're trying to obtain samples just for shipping costs, basically, to the extent we can. We're trying to do the work in-house with our small scientific staff.

Speaker #4: We're trying to limit the work by outside labs, yet still advance. So we're publishing articles. We are learning things. We have to make trade-offs. But we do feel like we're advancing it, Marla.

Speaker #6: Okay. Thank you.

M. Marin: Okay. Thank you.

Marla Marin: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #4: While keeping the focus on the oncology trial. Again, delighted that we've treated two out of the likely three patients in the second cohort after finishing the first cohort last quarter.

Steven P. LaRosa: While keeping the focus on the oncology trial. You know, we're, again, delighted that we've treated 2 out of the likely 3 patients in the second cohort after finishing the first cohort last quarter. So, you know, the progress is picking up on that front, too.

Steven LaRosa: While keeping the focus on the oncology trial. You know, we're, again, delighted that we've treated 2 out of the likely 3 patients in the second cohort after finishing the first cohort last quarter. So, you know, the progress is picking up on that front, too.

Speaker #4: So the progress is picking up on that front, too.

M. Marin: ... No, that's very apparent, you know, that things seem to really be moving forward at the pace that you are, you know, finally happy with or that, you know, is good to see, rather.

Marla Marin: ... No, that's very apparent, you know, that things seem to really be moving forward at the pace that you are, you know, finally happy with or that, you know, is good to see, rather.

Speaker #6: No, that is very that's very apparent. That things seem to really be moving forward at the pace that you are finally happy with or that is good to see, rather.

Speaker #4: Yes. That is true.

Steven P. LaRosa: Yes, that is true.

Steven LaRosa: Yes, that is true.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

M. Marin: Thank you.

Marla Marin: Thank you.

Operator: The next question comes from Jeremy Pearlman with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Jeremy Perlman with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Next question comes from Jeremy Perlman with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Okay, thank you for taking my questions. Good afternoon. First question related to the oncology trial—you said that more around the timeline, again, this is your best estimate.

Jeremy Pearlman: Okay, thank you for taking my questions. Good afternoon. First question related to the oncology trial. You said that the more around the timeline, again, this is your best estimate. You said the third patient should be treated by the end of February, and then you'll present the safety data by late March. How long do you think the board will respond back, whether you can move on to the third cohort, or you have to now, let's say, add additional patients into the second cohort? What do you think the timeframe for that would be?

Speaker #7: You said the third patient should be treated by the end of February, and then you’re presenting safety data by late March. How long do you think the board will take to respond about whether you can move on to the third cohort, or if you now have to, let’s say, add additional patients into the second cohort?

Speaker #7: What do you think the timeframe for that would be?

Speaker #4: Great question. So, yeah, I had misspoken, so I'm glad you caught my correction. That third patient will be treated at the end of this month, February.

Steven P. LaRosa: Great question. So, yeah, I had misspoke, and so I'm glad you caught my correction. That third patient will be treated at the end of this month, February, and then the Data Safety Monitoring Board will occur likely in late March. I can only go historically. Last time, following the open session, on the day of the meeting, they had a closed session, and they returned a signed document to me within a couple hours after. So I would anticipate a decision same day or next business day.

Steven LaRosa: Great question. So, yeah, I had misspoke, and so I'm glad you caught my correction. That third patient will be treated at the end of this month, February, and then the Data Safety Monitoring Board will occur likely in late March. I can only go historically. Last time, following the open session, on the day of the meeting, they had a closed session, and they returned a signed document to me within a couple hours after. So I would anticipate a decision same day or next business day.

Speaker #4: And then the data safety monitoring board will occur likely in late March. Last I can only go historically. Last time following the open session, on the day of the meeting, they had a closed session, and they returned a signed document to me within a couple of hours after.

Speaker #4: So, I would anticipate a decision the same day or the next business day.

Speaker #7: Okay, great. And then, let's say, just assuming they move you on to the third and final cohort—and you said also in your prepared remarks that you had a pool of applicants.

Jeremy Pearlman: Okay, great. And then, and then let's say, just assuming they move you on to the third and final cohort, how. And you said also on, on your prepared remarks that you had a pool of applicants. You saw an uptick of interest of potential participants. How quick do you think you could turn those around to do the 3 Hemopurifier treatments and then, and get, and get to finalize the last cohort data and then push that through?

Speaker #7: You saw an uptick of interest of potential participants. How quick do you think you could turn those around to do the three hemopurified treatments and then get finalized the last cohort data and then push that through?

Speaker #4: Yeah, so that's a great question. So this is what's really exciting. So thanks to our controller, Michelle Bombadir—she got this trial fax and dedicated these groups that Aethlon contracted with.

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah, so that's a great question. So this is what's really exciting. So thanks to our controller, Michele Bombardiere, she got this TrialFax and Dedicated, these groups that Aethlon contracted with. They have been able to supply the site's referrals. And so we have a number of these folks, lined up. Once we get the, you know, with the current protocol, you can't enroll or sign a consent for a new patient until you advance to that next cohort. But once we do, those patients can then be approached. They're in the queue, so to speak. They can be approached for consent. There's then a screening period, where they get some additional lab tests and review, and then we have to line up the HP treatment around their next Hemopurifier treatment.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah, so that's a great question. So this is what's really exciting. So thanks to our controller, Michele Bombardiere, she got this TrialFax and Dedicated, these groups that Aethlon contracted with. They have been able to supply the site's referrals. And so we have a number of these folks, lined up. Once we get the, you know, with the current protocol, you can't enroll or sign a consent for a new patient until you advance to that next cohort. But once we do, those patients can then be approached. They're in the queue, so to speak. They can be approached for consent. There's then a screening period, where they get some additional lab tests and review, and then we have to line up the HP treatment around their next Hemopurifier treatment.

Speaker #4: They have been able to supply the sites' referrals, and so we have a number of these folks lined up. Once we get— with the current protocol, you can't enroll or sign a consent for a new patient until you advance to that next cohort.

Speaker #4: But once we do, those patients can then be approached. They're in the queue, so to speak. They can be approached for consent. There's then a screening period where they get some additional lab tests and review.

Speaker #4: And then we have to line up the HP treatment around their next hemopurifier treatment. But the really exciting thing is and again, we can't count our chickens, but there's a queue of potential participants waiting.

Steven P. LaRosa: But the really exciting thing is, again, we can't count our chickens, but there's a queue of potential participants waiting, which is really exciting for me.

Steven LaRosa: But the really exciting thing is, again, we can't count our chickens, but there's a queue of potential participants waiting, which is really exciting for me.

Speaker #4: Which is really exciting for me.

Speaker #7: And they can roll into the third cohort.

Jeremy Pearlman: They can roll into the third cohort?

Steven P. LaRosa: They can roll into the third cohort, yeah, without any... Yeah, they'll sign consent, and they'll just move on.

Steven LaRosa: They can roll into the third cohort, yeah, without any... Yeah, they'll sign consent, and they'll just move on.

Speaker #4: They can roll into the third cohort. Yeah, without any yeah, they'll sign consent and they'll just move on. And so as opposed to saying, "Now we got to go look.

Jeremy Pearlman: Right, yeah-

Steven P. LaRosa: And so, as opposed to saying, "Now we gotta go look," we at least have a pool to draw on.

Steven LaRosa: And so, as opposed to saying, "Now we gotta go look," we at least have a pool to draw on.

Speaker #4: We at least have a pool to draw on."

Speaker #7: No, no, that's great. Yeah, that's really good to have that pool to draw on. And then maybe just this is just a theoretical question related to how do you decide on the time gap between the first treatment?

Jeremy Pearlman: No, no, no, it's great. Yeah, that's really good to have that pool to draw on. And then maybe just this is just a theoretical question related to how did you decide on the time gap between the first treatment, as you said earlier, on a Monday, and then you did the second treatment on a Friday? Is there a specific reason why you chose the five days, or, and is there a possibility where maybe extending the gap between the treatments would be more beneficial to the patient? Is this, like, the optimal time? I'm just curious.

Speaker #7: You said earlier on a Monday and then you did the second treatment on a Friday. Is there a specific reason why you chose the five days, or is it and is there a possibility where maybe extending the gap between the treatments would be more beneficial to the patient?

Speaker #7: Is this, like, the optimal time? I'm just curious.

Speaker #4: Right. Well, extracellular vesicles are produced by tumors in people with active tumors continuously, so the turnover is quite rapid. So, going in again, this is a safety feasibility in our first time in oncology.

Steven P. LaRosa: Right. Well, you know, extracellular vesicles are produced by tumors, people with active tumors, continuously, so the turnover is quite rapid. So going in, again, this is a safety feasibility and our first time in oncology. We said we have to start with a single treatment and see how they do. But we knew, it's unlikely that that's gonna keep EV numbers down long term, right? So we said, "Let's try two in a week, and let's also try three in a week," meaning Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We thought anything more than that, a patient won't tolerate because, for instance, in dialysis, it's very hard for people to do more than three times a week. So we thought that that was the most that somebody would be able to get during a week.

Steven LaRosa: Right. Well, you know, extracellular vesicles are produced by tumors, people with active tumors, continuously, so the turnover is quite rapid. So going in, again, this is a safety feasibility and our first time in oncology. We said we have to start with a single treatment and see how they do. But we knew, it's unlikely that that's gonna keep EV numbers down long term, right? So we said, "Let's try two in a week, and let's also try three in a week," meaning Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We thought anything more than that, a patient won't tolerate because, for instance, in dialysis, it's very hard for people to do more than three times a week. So we thought that that was the most that somebody would be able to get during a week.

Speaker #4: We said we have to start with a single treatment and see how they do. But we knew it's unlikely that that's going to keep EV numbers down long-term, right?

Speaker #4: So we said, 'Let's try two in a week.' And let's also try three in a week, meaning Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We thought anything more than that, a patient won't tolerate because, for instance, in dialysis, it's very hard for people to do more than three times a week.

Speaker #4: So we thought that that was the most that somebody would be able to get during a week. And then the other part of the story, which I think you're getting at, is when we look, we'll say, "How often do you have to repeat that whatever treatment regimen is?

Steven P. LaRosa: And then the other part of the story, which you're, I think you're getting at, is when we look, we'll say: How often do you have to repeat that, whatever treatment regimen is? Do you have to do that every week? Do you have to do that every two weeks? Do you have to do that once a month? And the way we have our sampling of labs, we'll be able to ascertain that. Is it, is it once a week and then X number of time in between? Is it twice a week with X number of time in, or is it three times a week?

Steven LaRosa: And then the other part of the story, which you're, I think you're getting at, is when we look, we'll say: How often do you have to repeat that, whatever treatment regimen is? Do you have to do that every week? Do you have to do that every two weeks? Do you have to do that once a month? And the way we have our sampling of labs, we'll be able to ascertain that. Is it, is it once a week and then X number of time in between? Is it twice a week with X number of time in, or is it three times a week?

Speaker #4: Do you have to do that every week? Do you have to do that every two weeks? Do you have to do that once a month?" And the way we have our sampling of labs we'll be able to ascertain that.

Speaker #4: Is it once a week and then X number of time in between? Is it twice a week? What X number of time in? Or is it three times a week?

Steven P. LaRosa: This was done with a little bit of background information from the plasma exchange trial at Mayo, where they ultimately thought that you needed at least 2 to 3 times in a given week to keep EV numbers down. So, the design was informed by what was in the literature in the plasma exchange space.

Speaker #4: This was done with a little bit of background information from the plasma exchange trial at Mayo where they ultimately thought that you needed at least two to three times in a given week to keep EV numbers down.

Steven LaRosa: This was done with a little bit of background information from the plasma exchange trial at Mayo, where they ultimately thought that you needed at least 2 to 3 times in a given week to keep EV numbers down. So, the design was informed by what was in the literature in the plasma exchange space.

Speaker #4: So it was the design was informed by what was in the literature in the plasma exchange space.

Speaker #7: Got it. Understood. Thank you for that information. And then just last question related also to this potential incorporating it into the SLAM system. Is there going to be any would there be any regulatory hurdles from your end, or since that device is I'm assuming it's already approved, if it just is compatible, if you could get the hemopurifier compatible with it, it's ready to go, or is there some type of you would have to do some sort of a safety test or something related to that before you could use it into that system?

Jeremy Pearlman: Got it. Understood. Thank you for that information. And then just last question related also to this potential incorporating it into the SLAM System. Is that- is there gonna be any- would there be any regulatory hurdles from your end? Or since that device is, I'm assuming it's already approved, if you- if it just is compatible, if you could get the Hemopurifier compatible with it, it, it's ready to go? Or, or is there some type of, you would have to do some sort of a safety test or something related to that before you could use it into that system?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Well, they're submitting their — they're working on their submission for the FDA. It's not already approved. So they'll have to do that, and then we would have to roll it in.

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah, well, they're submitting their... They're, they're working on their submission for the FDA. It's not already approved. So they'll have to do that, and then we would have to roll it in. I'm sure we would be expected to do a certain number of treatments with the two in place.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah, well, they're submitting their... They're, they're working on their submission for the FDA. It's not already approved. So they'll have to do that, and then we would have to roll it in. I'm sure we would be expected to do a certain number of treatments with the two in place.

Speaker #4: I'm sure we would be expected to do a certain number of treatments with the two in place.

Speaker #7: Okay, understood. All right, thank you so much for taking my questions. I'll hop back in. Got it, understood. Thank you for taking my question.

Jeremy Pearlman: Okay, understood. All right, thank you so much for clearing that up.

Steven P. LaRosa: It's not already out there.

Steven LaRosa: It's not already out there.

Jeremy Pearlman: I'll hop back in.

Steven P. LaRosa: That's the plan.

Steven LaRosa: That's the plan.

Jeremy Pearlman: Got it.

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah.

Jeremy Pearlman: Understood.

Steven P. LaRosa: Thank you.

Steven LaRosa: Thank you.

Jeremy Pearlman: Thank you for taking my questions.

Steven P. LaRosa: Thank you.

Steven LaRosa: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #7: Yep. I'll hop back into you.

Jeremy Pearlman: Yeah, I'll hop back in queue.

Speaker #4: Sure.

Steven P. LaRosa: Sure.

Steven LaRosa: Sure.

Speaker #1: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. The next question comes from RK with HC Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Operator: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. The next question comes from RK with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Thank you. Thanks, Jim, for doing this. A couple of quick questions. With the cohort two, two out of three patients in, if I understood it correctly, you are basically using the same patients who had who were in cohort one into the cohort two.

Vernon Bernardino: Thank you. Thanks, Jim, for doing this. A couple of quick questions. With the cohort two, you know, 2 out of 3 patients in, and, you know, if, if I understood it correctly, you are basically using the same patients who had—who were in cohort one into the cohort two. If that is true—

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Thank you. Thanks, Jim, for doing this. A couple of quick questions. With the cohort two, you know, 2 out of 3 patients in, and, you know, if, if I understood it correctly, you are basically using the same patients who had—who were in cohort one into the cohort two. If that is true—

Speaker #8: If that is true.

Speaker #4: No, these are entirely new. These aren't the same patients that were in cohort one. These are entirely new patients.

Steven P. LaRosa: No, these are entirely new.

Steven LaRosa: No, these are entirely new.

Vernon Bernardino: They're not?

Ramakanth Swayampakula: They're not?

Steven P. LaRosa: These aren't the same patients that were in Cohort 1. These are entirely new patients.

Steven LaRosa: These aren't the same patients that were in Cohort 1. These are entirely new patients.

Vernon Bernardino: Okay. Okay, so they're entirely new. Okay, fine. So what do you said that the third patient is starting at the end of this month? So do you think, you know, in couple months down the line, you know, we should be done with this cohort 2? And the real question is, is there a real need to do Cohort 3, or do you think with Cohort 2, you would be able to judge if, you know, two treatments with Hemopurifier is enough to get the benefit that they could get? Or do you still think you need to do Cohort 3?

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay. Okay, so they're entirely new. Okay, fine. So what do you said that the third patient is starting at the end of this month? So do you think, you know, in couple months down the line, you know, we should be done with this cohort 2? And the real question is, is there a real need to do Cohort 3, or do you think with Cohort 2, you would be able to judge if, you know, two treatments with Hemopurifier is enough to get the benefit that they could get? Or do you still think you need to do Cohort 3?

Speaker #8: Okay. So they're entirely new. Okay. Fine. So you said the third patient is starting at the end of this month. So do you think in a couple of months down the line, we should be done with this cohort two?

Speaker #8: And the real question is, is there a real need to do cohort three? Or do you think, with cohort two, you would be able to judge if two treatments with Hemopurifier is enough to get the benefit that they could get?

Speaker #8: Or are you still think you need to do cohort three?

Speaker #4: Okay. Yeah. So there's a bunch of questions there. One is, yeah, you're right. The third patient is going to get their two HP treatments at the end of this month.

Steven P. LaRosa: Okay. Yeah, so, there's a lot, bunch of questions there. One is, yeah, you're right. The third patient is going to get their 2 HP treatments at the end of this month. Following that, the independent Data Safety Monitoring Board will decide if that's sufficient or whether... Because it's a 3 + 3 safety study, they'll decide whether it's sufficient or whether we need to add 3 additional patients. So I can't, I can't know where it'd be appropriate for me to speak for them. But, in the best possible scenario, by the time they meet, at the end of March, they- we would have a directive to go ahead and begin in April-

Steven LaRosa: Okay. Yeah, so, there's a lot, bunch of questions there. One is, yeah, you're right. The third patient is going to get their 2 HP treatments at the end of this month. Following that, the independent Data Safety Monitoring Board will decide if that's sufficient or whether... Because it's a 3 + 3 safety study, they'll decide whether it's sufficient or whether we need to add 3 additional patients. So I can't, I can't know where it'd be appropriate for me to speak for them. But, in the best possible scenario, by the time they meet, at the end of March, they- we would have a directive to go ahead and begin in April-

Speaker #4: Following that, the independent Data Safety Monitoring Board will decide if that's sufficient or whether, because it's a three-plus-three safety study, they'll decide whether it's sufficient or whether we need to add three additional patients.

Speaker #4: So I can't know where to be appropriate for me to speak for them. But in the best possible scenario, by the time they meet at the end of March, we would have a directive to go ahead and begin in April with cohort three.

Jim Frakes: Cohort three

Steven P. LaRosa: ... with Cohort three. To get to your next question about the need for Cohort three. Well, again, this is based on the Mayo Clinic data, which suggests that you needed two or three. I think we would be really hamstringing ourselves to stop at two and not investigate three, 'cause I have every reason to believe three could potentially be superior to two in terms of EV removal or T cells. So I think we would be selling ourselves short to stop at two. And I haven't seen any of the data from two to actually even prognosticate-

Steven LaRosa: ... with Cohort three. To get to your next question about the need for Cohort three. Well, again, this is based on the Mayo Clinic data, which suggests that you needed two or three. I think we would be really hamstringing ourselves to stop at two and not investigate three, 'cause I have every reason to believe three could potentially be superior to two in terms of EV removal or T cells. So I think we would be selling ourselves short to stop at two. And I haven't seen any of the data from two to actually even prognosticate-

Speaker #4: To get to your next question about the need for cohort three—well, again, this was based on the Mayo Clinic data, which suggested that you needed two or three.

Speaker #4: I think we would be really hamstringing ourselves to stop at two and not investigate three because I have every reason to believe three could potentially be superior.

Speaker #4: To two in terms of EV removal or T cells. So I think we would be selling ourselves short to stop at two. And I haven't seen any of the data.

Speaker #4: From two to actually even prognosticate. Yeah. So it's way premature to call on the efficacy of two right now.

Jim Frakes: Yeah

Steven P. LaRosa: ... yet. So it's way premature to call on the efficacy of Q2 right now.

Steven LaRosa: ... yet. So it's way premature to call on the efficacy of Q2 right now.

Speaker #8: It was a good question, but without knowing the data, right? Okay. So then I have a couple of questions on the SLAM device. So integration.

Jim Frakes: It was a good question, but-

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah

Steven LaRosa: Yeah

Jim Frakes: ... it, you know, it's without knowing the data-

Steven P. LaRosa: mainly hypothetical.

Steven LaRosa: mainly hypothetical.

Jim Frakes: Yeah. Right.

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah.

Vernon Bernardino: Okay. So then I have a couple of questions on the SLAM device, so integration. As you were stating, when you go from the dialysis machine to this machine, you know, the tubing itself, the catheters itself are smaller in size, which makes the patient feel not so cumbersome. But on the other hand, the flow dynamics of the blood changes quite a bit, you know, between the larger tubing and the smaller tubing. So do you see that you might have to go through this rigmarole one more time with that machine because the flow dynamics are changed, the amount of capture of the EVs could be different because of the dynamics? What do you think?

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay. So then I have a couple of questions on the SLAM device, so integration. As you were stating, when you go from the dialysis machine to this machine, you know, the tubing itself, the catheters itself are smaller in size, which makes the patient feel not so cumbersome. But on the other hand, the flow dynamics of the blood changes quite a bit, you know, between the larger tubing and the smaller tubing. So do you see that you might have to go through this rigmarole one more time with that machine because the flow dynamics are changed, the amount of capture of the EVs could be different because of the dynamics? What do you think?

Speaker #8: As you were stating, when you go from the dialysis machine to this machine, the tubing itself, the catheters itself are smaller in size. Which makes the patient feel not so cumbersome.

Speaker #8: But on the other hand, the flow dynamics of the blood changes quite a bit. Between the larger tubing and the smaller tubing. So do you see that you might have to go through this rigmarole one more time with that machine because the flow dynamics are changed?

Speaker #8: The amount of capture of the EVs could be different because of the dynamics. What do you think?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Again, a lot of forward-looking questions there. But yeah, so the first thing is the simple the first set of experiments is simply is there pump compatible with the device?

Steven P. LaRosa: Yeah. Again, a lot of forward-looking questions there. But yeah, so the first thing is, the first set of experiments is simply, is their pump compatible with the device? Meaning, does our device function without triggering alarms and clotting off, et cetera. So they'll be doing this not on patients, but they'll be doing it in the lab with colored fluid and look at the pressures, et cetera. Then you're right, there probably would have to be some ex vivo experiments looking to see the... make sure the EV capture is similar. Yeah. So this is just the first step, is seeing the compatibility of the device, of their pump with our device.

Steven LaRosa: Yeah. Again, a lot of forward-looking questions there. But yeah, so the first thing is, the first set of experiments is simply, is their pump compatible with the device? Meaning, does our device function without triggering alarms and clotting off, et cetera. So they'll be doing this not on patients, but they'll be doing it in the lab with colored fluid and look at the pressures, et cetera. Then you're right, there probably would have to be some ex vivo experiments looking to see the... make sure the EV capture is similar. Yeah. So this is just the first step, is seeing the compatibility of the device, of their pump with our device.

Speaker #4: Meaning does our device function without triggering alarms and clotting off, etc.? So they'll be using they'll be doing this not on patients, but they'll be doing it in the lab with colored fluid and look at the pressures, etc.

Speaker #4: Then you're right. There probably would have to be some ex vivo experiments looking to see and make sure the EV capture is similar. Yeah. So, this is just the first step—seeing the compatibility of their pump with our device.

Speaker #8: Okay. So basically, that's not going to really help us move this trial any faster at this point. So it's something in the future, basically, correct?

Vernon Bernardino: Okay.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay.

Steven P. LaRosa: That's the starting point.

Steven LaRosa: That's the starting point.

Vernon Bernardino: So basically, that's not going to really help us move this trial any faster at this point. So it's, it's something in the future, basically. Correct?

Ramakanth Swayampakula: So basically, that's not going to really help us move this trial any faster at this point. So it's, it's something in the future, basically. Correct?

Steven P. LaRosa: Not the current trial, and probably not-

Steven LaRosa: Not the current trial, and probably not-

Speaker #4: Not the current trial and probably not even the next trial. I don't think it'd be done in time.

Vernon Bernardino: Yeah

Steven P. LaRosa: ... even the next trial.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Yeah

Steven LaRosa: ... even the next trial.

Vernon Bernardino: Yeah.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Yeah.

Steven P. LaRosa: I don't think it'd be done in time.

Steven LaRosa: I don't think it'd be done in time.

Speaker #8: Okay. And then the last question from me is, at one point, you were talking about India, and then you kind of walked away from that idea.

Jim Frakes: Yeah.

Vernon Bernardino: Okay. And then the last question from me is, at one point, you know, you were talking about India, and then you kind of, you know, walked away from that idea. Do you still see a possibility of having the Indian hospital get back into doing a clinical trial so you can kind of speed up the progress here? Or is it first Australia, and then we'll see what happens?

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay. And then the last question from me is, at one point, you know, you were talking about India, and then you kind of, you know, walked away from that idea. Do you still see a possibility of having the Indian hospital get back into doing a clinical trial so you can kind of speed up the progress here? Or is it first Australia, and then we'll see what happens?

Speaker #8: Do you still see a possibility of having the Indian hospital get back into doing a clinical trial? So you can kind of speed up the progress here?

Speaker #8: Or is it first Australia and then we'll see what happens?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think we're pretty highly focused on Australia, RK. We'd be wild to—PI is great there, and the hospital is great. We're advancing at a very good pace right now in Australia, and we just want to finish executing and get this trial done and get the data out.

Jim Frakes: Yeah, I think we're pretty highly focused on Australia, RK.

Vernon Bernardino: Okay.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay.

Jim Frakes: While the PI is great there and the hospital is great, you know, we're advancing at a very good pace right now in Australia, and we just want to finish executing and get this trial done and get the data out.

Vernon Bernardino: Yeah.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Yeah.

Jim Frakes: I think there would be some expanse and some distractions, so the answer is no, we're not going to go back there.

Speaker #4: I think there'd be some expense and some distractions. So the answer is no, we're not going to go back there. It'd be hard to advance to a PMA trial if you had a another safety feasibility trial going on in somewhere else in the world.

Jim Frakes: I think there would be some expanse and some distractions, so the answer is no, we're not going to go back there.

Vernon Bernardino: Okay. Okay.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay. Okay.

Steven P. LaRosa: It'd be hard to advance to a PMA trial if you had another safety feasibility trial going on somewhere else in the world.

Steven LaRosa: It'd be hard to advance to a PMA trial if you had another safety feasibility trial going on somewhere else in the world.

Speaker #8: Right. Yeah. Got it.

Jim Frakes: Right. Right.

Vernon Bernardino: ... Yeah, got it.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: ... Yeah, got it.

Jim Frakes: You know, if there's an emergency, if there's a pandemic breaking out in India, you know, we know them. The PI is very comfortable with our device. We certainly could do an emergency use situation there. I wouldn't hesitate to consider that. But in terms of going back and doing a safety trial, no.

Speaker #4: If there's an emergency, if there's a pandemic breaking out in India, we know them. The PI is very comfortable with our device. We certainly could do an emergency use situation there.

Speaker #4: I wouldn't hesitate to consider that. But I think but in terms of going back and doing a safety trial, no.

Speaker #8: Okay. Fair enough. Thank you very much for taking my questions.

Vernon Bernardino: Okay, fair enough. Thank you very much for taking my questions.

Ramakanth Swayampakula: Okay, fair enough. Thank you very much for taking my questions.

Speaker #1: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Frakes for any closing remarks.

Operator: This concludes our question-and-answer session.

Jim Frakes: Thank you, Arthur.

Operator: I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Frakes for any closing remarks.

Speaker #8: In closing, we remain focused on advancing the hemopurifier platform through disciplined clinical execution and careful capital management. We appreciate your continued interest and support.

Jim Frakes: In closing, we remain focused on advancing the Hemopurifier platform through disciplined clinical execution and careful capital management. We appreciate your continued interest and support. Have a good day. Goodbye.

Speaker #8: Have a good day. Goodbye.

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