Q4 2025 Urban Edge Properties Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Greetings and welcome to the

Operator: Greetings and welcome to the Urban Edge Properties' fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ariba Ahmed, Investor Relations Associate. Please go ahead.

Operator: Greetings and welcome to the Urban Edge Properties' fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ariba Ahmed, Investor Relations Associate. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Urban Edge Properties fourth quarter and full-year 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Speaker #1: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Areeba Ahmed, Investor Relations Associate. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: ahead. Good morning and welcome

Areeba Ahmed: Good morning and welcome to Urban Edge Properties' 2025 year-end earnings conference call. Joining me today are Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer; Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer; Heather Olberg, General Counsel; Scott Oster, EVP and Head of Leasing; and Andrea Drazen, Chief Accounting Officer. Please note, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's views of future events and financial performance, which are subject to numerous assumptions, risks, and uncertainties and which the company does not undertake to update. Our actual results, financial condition, and business may differ. Please refer to our filings with the SEC, which are also available on our website for more information about the company. In our discussion today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures to GAAP results are available in our earnings release and our supplemental disclosure package.

Areeba Ahmed: Good morning and welcome to Urban Edge Properties' 2025 year-end earnings conference call. Joining me today are Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer; Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer; Heather Olberg, General Counsel; Scott Oster, EVP and Head of Leasing; and Andrea Drazen, Chief Accounting Officer. Please note, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's views of future events and financial performance, which are subject to numerous assumptions, risks, and uncertainties and which the company does not undertake to update. Our actual results, financial condition, and business may differ. Please refer to our filings with the SEC, which are also available on our website for more information about the company. In our discussion today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures to GAAP results are available in our earnings release and our supplemental disclosure package.

Speaker #2: to Urban Edge Properties 2025 year-end earnings conference call. Joining me today are Jeff Olson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Mooallem, Chief Operating Officer; Mark Langer, Chief Financial Officer; Heather Olberg, General Counsel; Scott Oster, EVP and Head of Leasing; and Andrea Drazin, Chief Accounting Officer.

Speaker #2: Please note, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's views of future events and financial performance, which are subject to numerous assumptions, risks, and uncertainties, and which the company does not undertake to update.

Speaker #2: Our actual results, financial condition, and business may differ. Please refer to our filings with the SEC, which are also available on our website for more information about the company.

Speaker #2: In our discussion today, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, reconciliations of these measures to GAAP results are available in our earnings release and our supplemental disclosure package.

Speaker #2: At this time, it is my pleasure to introduce our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff

Areeba Ahmed: At this time, it is my pleasure to introduce our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Olson.

Areeba Ahmed: At this time, it is my pleasure to introduce our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jeff Olson.

Speaker #2: Olson.

Speaker #3: Great. Thank you, Areeba, and

Jeffrey Olson: Great. Thank you, Areeba, and good morning. 2025 was another strong year for Urban Edge. We generated FFO as adjusted of $1.43 per share, representing 6% growth, driven by the continued execution on our signed but not open pipeline and 5% same property NOI growth. During the year, we continued to set new leasing records. We executed 58 new leases at a record same space cash rent spread of 32% and achieved record shop occupancy of 92.6%. New lease spreads have now exceeded 20% for four consecutive years, reflecting strong demand and limited availability of high-quality retail spaces throughout our market. Given these dynamics, we expect new lease spreads will remain above 20% in 2026. Leverage has clearly shifted to owners of high-quality shopping centers. Our infill, densely populated portfolio, continues to attract leading retailers, especially for anchor space.

Jeff Olson: Great. Thank you, Areeba, and good morning. 2025 was another strong year for Urban Edge. We generated FFO as adjusted of $1.43 per share, representing 6% growth, driven by the continued execution on our signed but not open pipeline and 5% same property NOI growth. During the year, we continued to set new leasing records. We executed 58 new leases at a record same space cash rent spread of 32% and achieved record shop occupancy of 92.6%. New lease spreads have now exceeded 20% for four consecutive years, reflecting strong demand and limited availability of high-quality retail spaces throughout our market. Given these dynamics, we expect new lease spreads will remain above 20% in 2026. Leverage has clearly shifted to owners of high-quality shopping centers. Our infill, densely populated portfolio, continues to attract leading retailers, especially for anchor space.

Speaker #3: good morning. 2025 was another strong year for Urban Edge. We generated FFO as adjusted, of $1.43 per share, representing 6% growth. Driven by the continued execution on our signed but not open pipeline and 5% same property NOI growth.

Speaker #3: During the year, we continued to set new leasing records. We executed 58 new leases at a record same-space cash rent spread of 32% and achieved record shop occupancy of 92.6%.

Speaker #3: New lease spreads have now exceeded 20% for four consecutive years. Reflecting strong demand and limited availability of high-quality retail spaces throughout our market. Given these dynamics, we expect new lease spreads will remain above 20% in 2026.

Speaker #3: Leverage has clearly shifted to owners of high-quality shopping centers. Our infill, densely populated portfolio continues to attract leading retailers especially for anchor space. Nearly all our national retailers are telling us how difficult it is to expand in our markets due to limited supply.

Jeffrey Olson: Nearly all our national retailers are telling us how difficult it is to expand in our markets due to limited supply, supporting our expectation for healthy rent growth in the coming years. Our signed but not open pipeline continues to be a key driver of growth. In 2025, we commenced over $16 million of new annualized gross rent, including openings from Trader Joe's, Burlington, Ross, Nordstrom Rack, Atlantic Health, Tesla, and many high-performing shop tenants like CAVA, Shake Shack, First Watch, Starbucks, and Club Pilates. A remaining signed but not open pipeline is expected to generate an additional $22 million of annual gross rent, representing 8% of current NOI. Our development and construction teams continue to be key drivers of value creation. During the year, we completed 14 projects totaling $55 million, generating unlevered yields of 19%.

Jeff Olson: Nearly all our national retailers are telling us how difficult it is to expand in our markets due to limited supply, supporting our expectation for healthy rent growth in the coming years. Our signed but not open pipeline continues to be a key driver of growth. In 2025, we commenced over $16 million of new annualized gross rent, including openings from Trader Joe's, Burlington, Ross, Nordstrom Rack, Atlantic Health, Tesla, and many high-performing shop tenants like CAVA, Shake Shack, First Watch, Starbucks, and Club Pilates. A remaining signed but not open pipeline is expected to generate an additional $22 million of annual gross rent, representing 8% of current NOI. Our development and construction teams continue to be key drivers of value creation. During the year, we completed 14 projects totaling $55 million, generating unlevered yields of 19%.

Speaker #3: Supporting our expectation for healthy rent growth in the coming years. Our signed but not open pipeline continues to be a key driver of growth.

Speaker #3: In 2025, we commenced over $16 million of new annualized gross rent, including openings from Trader Joe's, Burlington, Ross, Nordstrom Rack, Atlantic Health, Tesla, and many high-performing shop tenants, like Kava, Shake Shack, First Watch, Starbucks, and Club Pilates.

Speaker #3: A remaining signed but not open pipeline is expected to generate an additional $22 million of annual gross rent, representing 8% of current NOI. Our development and construction teams continue to be key drivers of value creation.

Speaker #3: During the year, we completed 14 projects totaling $55 million generating unlevered yields of 19%. We currently have 166 million of redevelopment projects underway, expected to generate a 14% unlevered return.

Jeffrey Olson: We currently have $166 million of redevelopment projects underway, expected to generate a 14% unlevered return. Over the past three years, FFO as adjusted has grown at an average annual rate of 6% to $1.43 per share in 2025. This exceeds our 2023 Investor Day target of $1.35 per share and ranks among the highest growth rates in our peer group. This outperformance is a testament to several factors, including our best-in-class team, favorable shopping center fundamentals, and accretive capital recycling. During this period, we acquired nearly $600 million of high-quality shopping centers at an average 7% cap rate while disposing of approximately $500 million of non-core, lower-growth assets at a 5% cap rate. Looking ahead to 2026, our goals include achieving FFO as adjusted growth of at least 4.5%, same property NOI growth above 3%, and returning leased occupancy toward our historical high of approximately 98%.

Jeff Olson: We currently have $166 million of redevelopment projects underway, expected to generate a 14% unlevered return. Over the past three years, FFO as adjusted has grown at an average annual rate of 6% to $1.43 per share in 2025. This exceeds our 2023 Investor Day target of $1.35 per share and ranks among the highest growth rates in our peer group. This outperformance is a testament to several factors, including our best-in-class team, favorable shopping center fundamentals, and accretive capital recycling. During this period, we acquired nearly $600 million of high-quality shopping centers at an average 7% cap rate while disposing of approximately $500 million of non-core, lower-growth assets at a 5% cap rate. Looking ahead to 2026, our goals include achieving FFO as adjusted growth of at least 4.5%, same property NOI growth above 3%, and returning leased occupancy toward our historical high of approximately 98%.

Speaker #3: Over the past three years, FFO as adjusted has grown at an average annual rate of 6% to $1.43 per share in 2025. This exceeds our 2023 investor day target of $1.35 per share and ranks among the highest growth rates in our peer group.

Speaker #3: This outperformance is a testament to several factors including our best-in-class team, favorable shopping center fundamentals, and accretive capital recycling. During this period, we acquired nearly $600 million of high-quality shopping centers at an average 7% cap rate while disposing of approximately $500 million of non-core lower growth assets at a 5% cap rate.

Speaker #3: Looking ahead, to 2026, our goals include achieving FFO as adjusted growth of at least 4.5%, same property NOI growth above 3%, and returning least occupancy toward our historical high of approximately 98%.

Speaker #3: Our acquisition guidance includes a $54 million shopping center under contract. While we have not included additional acquisitions or dispositions in our guidance, we remain on the hunt for growth opportunities and have several deals in early stages of underwriting.

Jeffrey Olson: Our acquisition guidance includes a $54 million shopping center under contract. While we have not included additional acquisitions or dispositions in our guidance, we remain on the hunt for growth opportunities and have several deals in early stages of underwriting. Looking to 2027 and beyond, we expect to increase FFO by at least 4% annually. Our growth outlook is highly visible, with a significant portion coming from six anchor repositioning projects, including Bruckner, Bergen, Cherry Hill, Hudson, Plaza, Woodbridge, and Yonkers. These projects will include new retailers, including BJ's, Trader Joe's, Burlington, HomeGoods, and Ross, and high-quality shop tenants such as Chipotle, Chick-fil-A, T-Mobile, and CAVA. Through 2027, more than 80% of our same property NOI growth is expected to come from executed leases, LOIs, and contractual rent increases. Based on the expected timing of rent commencements, we believe 2027 NOI growth will be approximately 5%.

Jeff Olson: Our acquisition guidance includes a $54 million shopping center under contract. While we have not included additional acquisitions or dispositions in our guidance, we remain on the hunt for growth opportunities and have several deals in early stages of underwriting. Looking to 2027 and beyond, we expect to increase FFO by at least 4% annually. Our growth outlook is highly visible, with a significant portion coming from six anchor repositioning projects, including Bruckner, Bergen, Cherry Hill, Hudson, Plaza, Woodbridge, and Yonkers. These projects will include new retailers, including BJ's, Trader Joe's, Burlington, HomeGoods, and Ross, and high-quality shop tenants such as Chipotle, Chick-fil-A, T-Mobile, and CAVA. Through 2027, more than 80% of our same property NOI growth is expected to come from executed leases, LOIs, and contractual rent increases. Based on the expected timing of rent commencements, we believe 2027 NOI growth will be approximately 5%.

Speaker #3: Looking to 2027 and beyond, we expect to increase FFO by at least 4% annually. Our growth outlook is highly visible with a significant portion coming from six anchor repositioning projects, including Bruckner, Bergen, Cherry Hill, Hudson, Plaza at Woodbridge, and Yonkers.

Speaker #3: These projects will include new retailers, including BJ's, Trader Joe's, Burlington, HomeGoods, and Ross, and high-quality shop tenants such as Chipotle, Chick-fil-A, T-Mobile, and Kava.

Speaker #3: Through 2027, more than 80% of our same property NOI growth is expected to come from executed leases, LOIs, and contractual rent increases. Based on the expected timing of rent commencements, we believe 2027 NOI growth will be approximately 5%.

Speaker #3: We are proud of our sector-leading performance over the past three years and remain well-positioned to build on this momentum in 2026. I will now turn it over to our chief operating officer, Jeff

Speaker #3: We are proud of our sector-leading performance over the past three years and remain well-positioned to build on this momentum in 2026. I will now turn it over to our Chief Operating Officer, Jeff Mooallem.

Jeffrey Olson: We are proud of our sector-leading performance over the past three years and remain well-positioned to build on this momentum in 2026. I will now turn it over to our Chief Operating Officer, Jeff Mooallem.

Jeff Olson: We are proud of our sector-leading performance over the past three years and remain well-positioned to build on this momentum in 2026. I will now turn it over to our Chief Operating Officer, Jeff Mooallem.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Jeff, and good morning. Our fourth quarter results capped an exceptional three-year run at Urban Edge. Characterized by continued leasing momentum, disciplined redevelopment, accretive capital recycling, and ongoing enhancements to our tenant roster.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Thanks, Jeff, and good morning. Our Q4 results capped an exceptional three-year run at Urban Edge, characterized by continued leasing momentum, disciplined redevelopment, accretive capital recycling, and ongoing enhancements to our tenant roster. Let's get into some of the details as well as the reasons why we are so bullish that this run will continue. During Q4, we signed 47 new leases totaling more than 200,000sq ft, including 14 new leases at an 11% same space spread and 33 renewals at a 17% spread. That brought our total for the year to 58 new leases for over 360,000sq ft at a same space spread of 32% and 104 renewals for over 1,000,000sq ft at a spread of 11%. On a portfolio of our size, any given quarter can have an outlier or two.

Jeff Mooallem: Thanks, Jeff, and good morning. Our Q4 results capped an exceptional three-year run at Urban Edge, characterized by continued leasing momentum, disciplined redevelopment, accretive capital recycling, and ongoing enhancements to our tenant roster. Let's get into some of the details as well as the reasons why we are so bullish that this run will continue. During Q4, we signed 47 new leases totaling more than 200,000sq ft, including 14 new leases at an 11% same space spread and 33 renewals at a 17% spread. That brought our total for the year to 58 new leases for over 360,000sq ft at a same space spread of 32% and 104 renewals for over 1,000,000sq ft at a spread of 11%. On a portfolio of our size, any given quarter can have an outlier or two.

Speaker #4: Let's get into some of the details, as well as the reasons why we are so bullish that this run will continue. During the fourth quarter, we signed 47 new leases totaling more than 200,000 square feet, including 14 new leases at an 11% same-space spread, and 33 renewals at a 17% spread.

Speaker #4: That brought our total for the year to $58 new leases for over 360,000 square feet at a same space spread of 32% and 104 renewals for over 1 million square feet at a spread of 11%.

Speaker #4: On a portfolio hour size, any given quarter can have an outlier or two. But a 32% spread on new leases across the entire year is direct evidence of the competitive tenant demand and increased pricing power that we've seen across our portfolio.

Jeffrey Mooallem: But a 32% spread on new leases across the entire year is direct evidence of the competitive tenant demand and increased pricing power that we've seen across our portfolio. Year-end, same property leased occupancy was 96.7%. Anchor occupancy ended the year at 97.5%, down 50 basis points from last year, while small shop occupancy rose to a record 92.6%, up 170 basis points from last year. The decline in anchor occupancy is a result of taking back one space, At Home at Ledgewood Commons, which we expect to re-tenant soon at a strong overall spread. Nationally, shopping center vacancy remains near historic lows. Supply constraints are especially pronounced in the Northeast, where new construction represents only 0.2% of total supply. Finding land and securing entitlement is extremely difficult in our markets. And even if you do, current market rents do not support today's ground-up development costs.

Jeff Mooallem: But a 32% spread on new leases across the entire year is direct evidence of the competitive tenant demand and increased pricing power that we've seen across our portfolio. Year-end, same property leased occupancy was 96.7%. Anchor occupancy ended the year at 97.5%, down 50 basis points from last year, while small shop occupancy rose to a record 92.6%, up 170 basis points from last year. The decline in anchor occupancy is a result of taking back one space, At Home at Ledgewood Commons, which we expect to re-tenant soon at a strong overall spread. Nationally, shopping center vacancy remains near historic lows. Supply constraints are especially pronounced in the Northeast, where new construction represents only 0.2% of total supply. Finding land and securing entitlement is extremely difficult in our markets. And even if you do, current market rents do not support today's ground-up development costs.

Speaker #4: Year-end, same property leased occupancy was 96.7%, anchor occupancy ended the year at 97.5%, down 50 basis points from last year, while small shop occupancy rose to a record 92.6%, up 170 basis points from last year.

Speaker #4: The decline in anchor occupancy is a result of taking back one space, at Home at Ledgewood Commons, which we expect to re-tenant soon at a strong overall spread.

Speaker #4: Nationally, shopping center vacancy remains near historic lows. Supply constraints are especially pronounced in the Northeast, where new construction represents only 0.2% of total supply.

Speaker #4: Finding land and securing entitlements is extremely difficult in our markets, and even if you do, current market rents do not support today's ground-up development costs.

Speaker #4: We believe the current supply imbalance will continue, allowing us to negotiate even better lease terms, both economic and non-economic. As it relates to our SACs exposure, we had two SACs off-fifth locations at the end of 2025.

Jeffrey Mooallem: We believe the current supply imbalance will continue, allowing us to negotiate even better lease terms, both economic and non-economic. As it relates to our Saks OFF 5TH exposure, we had two Saks OFF 5TH locations at the end of 2025. Our location in East Hanover, New Jersey, was paying about $800,000 a year of gross rent and closed in January. The space has excellent visibility in a strong submarket, so we expect to re-tenant it accretively in short order. Our location at Bergen Town Center is one of only 12 OFF 5TH stores that will remain open at full rent. That list includes some of the best retail assets in the entire country: Woodbury Commons in New York, Buckhead Station in Atlanta, the Gallery at Westbury Plaza on Long Island, and Sawgrass Mills in Florida, just to name a few, further testament to how special an asset Bergen Town Center is.

Jeff Mooallem: We believe the current supply imbalance will continue, allowing us to negotiate even better lease terms, both economic and non-economic. As it relates to our Saks OFF 5TH exposure, we had two Saks OFF 5TH locations at the end of 2025. Our location in East Hanover, New Jersey, was paying about $800,000 a year of gross rent and closed in January. The space has excellent visibility in a strong submarket, so we expect to re-tenant it accretively in short order. Our location at Bergen Town Center is one of only 12 OFF 5TH stores that will remain open at full rent. That list includes some of the best retail assets in the entire country: Woodbury Commons in New York, Buckhead Station in Atlanta, the Gallery at Westbury Plaza on Long Island, and Sawgrass Mills in Florida, just to name a few, further testament to how special an asset Bergen Town Center is.

Speaker #4: Our location in East Hanover, New Jersey, was paying about $800,000 a year of gross rent and closed in January. The space has excellent visibility in a strong submarket, so we expect to re-tenant it accretively in short order.

Speaker #4: Our location at Bergentown Center is one of only 12 off-fifth stores that will remain open at full rent. That list includes some of the best retail assets in the entire country.

Speaker #4: Woodbury Commons in New York, Buckhead Station in Atlanta, the Gallery at Westbury Plaza on Long Island, and Sawgrass Mills in Florida just to name a few.

Speaker #4: Further testament to how special an asset Bergentown Center is. Turning to development, we stabilized three projects in the fourth quarter totaling $12 million of investment as rent commenced for Tesla at Toto Commons, Dave's Hot Chicken at Yonkers Gateway, and First Watch at Bergentown Center.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Turning to development, we stabilized three projects in the fourth quarter, totaling $12 million of investment as rent commenced for Tesla at Totowa Commons, Dave's Hot Chicken at Yonkers Gateway, and First Watch at Bergen Town Center. These projects will generate about a 26% yield. We also activated four new projects totaling $28 million, bringing our redevelopment pipeline to $166 million with a projected unlevered yield of 14%. As usual, nearly all of our active redevelopment projects are tied to executed leases. At Sunrise Mall in Massapequa, New York, we executed a lease termination with Dick's Sporting Goods in the fourth quarter, the last tenant remaining at the mall. This clears one of the final hurdles needed to advance the project, and it will enable our application for an Amazon distribution center on approximately one-third of the Sunrise land to advance quickly through the entitlement process.

Jeff Mooallem: Turning to development, we stabilized three projects in the fourth quarter, totaling $12 million of investment as rent commenced for Tesla at Totowa Commons, Dave's Hot Chicken at Yonkers Gateway, and First Watch at Bergen Town Center. These projects will generate about a 26% yield. We also activated four new projects totaling $28 million, bringing our redevelopment pipeline to $166 million with a projected unlevered yield of 14%. As usual, nearly all of our active redevelopment projects are tied to executed leases. At Sunrise Mall in Massapequa, New York, we executed a lease termination with Dick's Sporting Goods in the fourth quarter, the last tenant remaining at the mall. This clears one of the final hurdles needed to advance the project, and it will enable our application for an Amazon distribution center on approximately one-third of the Sunrise land to advance quickly through the entitlement process.

Speaker #4: These projects will generate about a $26% yield. We also activated four new projects totaling $28 million bringing our redevelopment pipeline to $166 million with a projected unlevered yield of 14%.

Speaker #4: As usual, nearly all of our active redevelopment projects are tied to executed leases. At Sunrise Mall in Massapequa, New York, we executed a lease termination with Dick's Sporting Goods in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #4: The last tenant remaining at the mall. This clears one of the final hurdles needed to advance the project, and it will enable our application for an Amazon Distribution Center on approximately one-third of the Sunrise land to advance quickly through the entitlement process.

Speaker #4: While the Amazon approvals remain our focus, we are in discussions with a variety of users for the remainder of the site, and we hope to have more to announce later this year.

Jeffrey Mooallem: While the Amazon approvals remain our focus, we are in discussions with a variety of users for the remainder of the site, and we hope to have more to announce later this year. Finally, on the capital recycling side, we have executed an agreement to acquire a property in New Jersey for approximately $54 million. The asset is located in a dense, high-income submarket, is 95% leased, and it will generate an accretive yield for us from day one. Closing is expected by the end of Q1, so we should have further details on this property on our next call. With that, I'll turn it over to our CFO, Mark Langer.

Jeff Mooallem: While the Amazon approvals remain our focus, we are in discussions with a variety of users for the remainder of the site, and we hope to have more to announce later this year. Finally, on the capital recycling side, we have executed an agreement to acquire a property in New Jersey for approximately $54 million. The asset is located in a dense, high-income submarket, is 95% leased, and it will generate an accretive yield for us from day one. Closing is expected by the end of Q1, so we should have further details on this property on our next call. With that, I'll turn it over to our CFO, Mark Langer.

Speaker #4: And finally, on the capital recycling side, we have executed an agreement to acquire a property in New Jersey for approximately $54 million. The asset is located in a dense, high-income submarket, is 95% leased, and it will generate an accretive yield for us from day one.

Speaker #4: Closing is expected by the end of the first quarter, so we should have further details on this property on our next call. With that, I'll turn it over to our CFO,

Speaker #4: Closing is expected by the end of the first quarter, so we should have further details on this property on our next call. With that, I'll turn it over to our CFO, Mark Langer.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another excellent quarter capping off a very successful 2025. FFO has adjusted was $36 per share for the fourth quarter and $1.43 per share for the full year.

Mark Langer: Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another excellent quarter, capping off a very successful 2025. FFO as adjusted was $0.36 per share for the fourth quarter and $1.43 per share for the full year, representing 6% growth over 2024. Same property NOI, including redevelopment, increased 2.9% for the fourth quarter and 5% for the full year. This growth was driven primarily by rents commencing from our signed but not open pipeline and higher net recovery income, partially offset by higher snow removal expenses, which had a 110 basis point negative impact to same property NOI growth in the quarter. Full-year FFO as adjusted benefited from lower recurring G&A as we continued to make progress reducing costs and extracting operational efficiencies. Our balance sheet remains very well-positioned, with total liquidity of $849 million and no amounts drawn on our line of credit.

Mark Langer: Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. We delivered another excellent quarter, capping off a very successful 2025. FFO as adjusted was $0.36 per share for the fourth quarter and $1.43 per share for the full year, representing 6% growth over 2024. Same property NOI, including redevelopment, increased 2.9% for the fourth quarter and 5% for the full year. This growth was driven primarily by rents commencing from our signed but not open pipeline and higher net recovery income, partially offset by higher snow removal expenses, which had a 110 basis point negative impact to same property NOI growth in the quarter. Full-year FFO as adjusted benefited from lower recurring G&A as we continued to make progress reducing costs and extracting operational efficiencies. Our balance sheet remains very well-positioned, with total liquidity of $849 million and no amounts drawn on our line of credit.

Speaker #5: Representing 6% growth over 2024. Same property NOI including redevelopment increased 2.9% for the fourth quarter and 5% for the full year. This growth was driven primarily by rents commencing from our signed but not open pipeline and higher net recovery income.

Speaker #5: Partially offset by higher snow removal expenses. Which had $110 basis point negative impact to same property NOI growth in the quarter. Full year FFO is adjusted benefited from lower recurring G&A as we continued to make progress reducing costs and extracting operational efficiencies.

Speaker #5: Our balance sheet remains very well positioned, with total liquidity of $849 million and no amounts drawn on our line of credit. During the quarter, we paid off the $23 million mortgage at West End Commons at maturity using cash on hand.

Mark Langer: During the quarter, we paid off the $23 million mortgage at West End Commons at maturity using cash on hand. We have no debt maturing until December of 2026, with three mortgages aggregating $114 million coming due at a blended 4% interest rate, which we expect to refinance or repay. We ended 2025 with net debt to annualized EBITDA of 5.8 times, below our target of 6.5 times, which provides us with flexibility to seek growth opportunities. Subsequent to the quarter, we amended our line of credit with a new $700 million facility maturing in June 2030 with two six-month extension options and simultaneously executed two $125 million, 12-month delayed draw term loans with a five-year and seven-year maturity.

Mark Langer: During the quarter, we paid off the $23 million mortgage at West End Commons at maturity using cash on hand. We have no debt maturing until December of 2026, with three mortgages aggregating $114 million coming due at a blended 4% interest rate, which we expect to refinance or repay. We ended 2025 with net debt to annualized EBITDA of 5.8 times, below our target of 6.5 times, which provides us with flexibility to seek growth opportunities. Subsequent to the quarter, we amended our line of credit with a new $700 million facility maturing in June 2030 with two six-month extension options and simultaneously executed two $125 million, 12-month delayed draw term loans with a five-year and seven-year maturity.

Speaker #5: We have no debt maturing until December 2026 with three mortgages aggregating $114 million coming due at a blended 4% interest rate. Which we expect to refinance or repay.

Speaker #5: We ended 2025 with net debt to annualized EBITDA of 5.8 times. Below, our target of 6.5 times which provides us with flexibility to seek growth opportunities.

Speaker #5: Subsequent to the quarter, we amended our line of credit with a new $700 million facility maturing in June 2030 with two six-month extension options.

Speaker #5: And simultaneously executed two $125 million 12-month delayed draw term loans with a 5-year and 7-year maturity. While we do not have immediate plans to draw on the term loans, the delayed draw feature allows us to do so for 12 months from closing and provides us with added flexibility as we pursue our growth 2026, our initial FFO has adjusted per share guidance range is $1.47 to $1.52 per share.

Mark Langer: While we do not have immediate plans to draw on the term loans, the delayed draw feature allows us to do so for 12 months from closing and provides us with added flexibility as we pursue our growth plans. Turning to our outlook for 2026, our initial FFO as Adjusted per share guidance range is $1.47 to $1.52 per share, reflecting 4.5% growth at the midpoint. Key assumptions within guidance include Same Property NOI, including redevelopment growth, of 2.75% to 3.75%. Our NOI guidance reflects the full-year fallout from Saks OFF 5TH at East Hanover and assumes credit losses of 50 to 75 basis points. On the revenue side, our NOI growth assumes $6 million of gross rent is recognized in 2026 from our S&O pipeline, of which 75% is expected to come online in the second half of the year.

Mark Langer: While we do not have immediate plans to draw on the term loans, the delayed draw feature allows us to do so for 12 months from closing and provides us with added flexibility as we pursue our growth plans. Turning to our outlook for 2026, our initial FFO as Adjusted per share guidance range is $1.47 to $1.52 per share, reflecting 4.5% growth at the midpoint. Key assumptions within guidance include Same Property NOI, including redevelopment growth, of 2.75% to 3.75%. Our NOI guidance reflects the full-year fallout from Saks OFF 5TH at East Hanover and assumes credit losses of 50 to 75 basis points. On the revenue side, our NOI growth assumes $6 million of gross rent is recognized in 2026 from our S&O pipeline, of which 75% is expected to come online in the second half of the year.

Speaker #5: Reflecting 4.5% growth at the midpoint. Key assumptions within guidance include same property NOI including redevelopment growth of 2.75% to 3.75%. Our NOI guidance reflects the full year fallout from SACs at East Hanover and assumes credit losses of 50 to 75 basis points.

Speaker #5: On the growth assumes $6 million of gross rent is recognized in 2026 from our S&O pipeline. Of which 75% is expected to come online in the second half of the year.

Speaker #5: Therefore, year-over-year NOI growth is expected to build in the second half of the year, with lower growth rates in the first two quarters. As I noted, we continue to carefully manage G&A expenses.

Mark Langer: Therefore, year-over-year NOI growth is expected to build in the second half of the year with lower growth rates in the first two quarters. As I noted, we continue to carefully manage G&A expenses. In 2025, our total recurring G&A was $34.5 million, a decrease of 4% from the prior year. In 2026, we expect recurring G&A to be $34.5 million to $36.5 million, an increase of 3% at the midpoint. As for capital spending, we have $166 million of active redevelopment projects, with $86 million remaining to fund. We expect to spend about $70 to 80 million during 2026 on these projects and have also budgeted $20 million in maintenance CapEx. As announced in our press release, our board recently approved an 11% increase in our dividend to an annualized rate of $0.84 per share, reflecting an FFO payout ratio of about 56%.

Mark Langer: Therefore, year-over-year NOI growth is expected to build in the second half of the year with lower growth rates in the first two quarters. As I noted, we continue to carefully manage G&A expenses. In 2025, our total recurring G&A was $34.5 million, a decrease of 4% from the prior year. In 2026, we expect recurring G&A to be $34.5 million to $36.5 million, an increase of 3% at the midpoint. As for capital spending, we have $166 million of active redevelopment projects, with $86 million remaining to fund. We expect to spend about $70 to 80 million during 2026 on these projects and have also budgeted $20 million in maintenance CapEx. As announced in our press release, our board recently approved an 11% increase in our dividend to an annualized rate of $0.84 per share, reflecting an FFO payout ratio of about 56%.

Speaker #5: In 2025, our total recurring G&A was $34.5 million. A decrease of 4% from the prior year. In 2026, we expect recurring G&A to be $34.5 million to $36.5 million.

Speaker #5: An increase of 3% at the midpoint. As for capital spending, we have $166 million of active redevelopment projects. With $86 million remaining to fund.

Speaker #5: We expect to spend about $70 to $80 million during 2026 on these projects. And I've also budgeted $20 million in maintenance capex. As announced on our press release, our board recently approved an 11% increase in our dividend to an annualized rate of 84 cents per share.

Speaker #5: Reflecting an FFO payout ratio of about 56%. We expect the dividend to grow as earnings and taxable income grow, while we focus on preserving free cash flow to fund our active redevelopment pipeline that is generating healthy returns.

Mark Langer: We expect the dividend to grow as earnings and taxable income grow, while we focus on preserving free cash flow to fund our active redevelopment pipeline that is generating healthy returns. This new dividend reflects the projected growth in our taxable income in 2026. In closing, we are well-positioned to continue driving earnings growth by delivering redevelopment and anchor repositioning projects, obtaining attractive economics on new leases, sourcing new acquisitions, and maintaining a strong balance sheet. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

Mark Langer: We expect the dividend to grow as earnings and taxable income grow, while we focus on preserving free cash flow to fund our active redevelopment pipeline that is generating healthy returns. This new dividend reflects the projected growth in our taxable income in 2026. In closing, we are well-positioned to continue driving earnings growth by delivering redevelopment and anchor repositioning projects, obtaining attractive economics on new leases, sourcing new acquisitions, and maintaining a strong balance sheet. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

Speaker #5: This new dividend reflects the projected growth in our taxable income in 2026. In closing, we are well positioned to continue driving earnings growth by delivering redevelopment and anchor repositioning projects obtaining attractive economics on new leases sourcing new acquisitions and maintaining a strong balance sheet.

Speaker #5: With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

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Speaker #7: Hey, great. Just two quick ones. Starting with shop occupancy. You obviously have pretty strong year. 170 basis points year over year. Just hoping you could give some comments on sort of what your expectations going forward in terms of how much more upside is there in that number.

Ronald Kamdem: Hey, great. Just two quick ones. Starting with shop occupancy, obviously a pretty strong year, 170 basis points year-over-year. Just hoping you could give some comments on sort of what your expectation is going forward in terms of how much more upside is there in that number. Thanks.

Ronald Kamdem: Hey, great. Just two quick ones. Starting with shop occupancy, obviously a pretty strong year, 170 basis points year-over-year. Just hoping you could give some comments on sort of what your expectation is going forward in terms of how much more upside is there in that number. Thanks.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #8: Hey, Ron. Good morning. It's Jeff Mooallem. Yeah, we've messaged pretty consistently that we think that we can get to a steady state somewhere in that 94% range.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Hey, Ron. Good morning. It's Jeff Mooallem. Yeah, we've messaged pretty consistently that we think that we can get to a steady state somewhere in that 94% range. Once you start getting above 94%, you're really looking at maybe, are you not being as strategic enough with some of your shop space? There's always going to be some static vacancy that comes from turning over vacancies from tenant A to tenant B, and there's always going to be some functionally obsolete back-a-house storage-type space that sits there on our report. When you start backing those out, we feel like 94%, 95%, 96% is really about as much as we want to push it.

Jeff Mooallem: Hey, Ron. Good morning. It's Jeff Mooallem. Yeah, we've messaged pretty consistently that we think that we can get to a steady state somewhere in that 94% range. Once you start getting above 94%, you're really looking at maybe, are you not being as strategic enough with some of your shop space? There's always going to be some static vacancy that comes from turning over vacancies from tenant A to tenant B, and there's always going to be some functionally obsolete back-a-house storage-type space that sits there on our report. When you start backing those out, we feel like 94%, 95%, 96% is really about as much as we want to push it.

Speaker #8: Once you start getting above 94%, you're really looking at maybe, are you not being as strategic enough with some of your shop space? There's always going to be some static vacancy that comes from turning over vacancies from tenant A and 8 to tenant A and B.

Speaker #8: And there's always going to be some functionally obsolete back of house storage type space that sits there on our report. When you start backing those out, we feel like 94, 95, 96% is really about as much as we want to push it.

Speaker #8: This has been an opportunity for our leasing team now that we're into this rarefied air on shop occupancy, to actually go back around to some of the existing tenants and look at is this a tenant we can get out and we can replace at a really healthy spread?

Jeffrey Mooallem: This has been an opportunity for our leasing team now that we're into this rarefied air on shop occupancy to actually go back around to some of the existing tenants and look at, is this a tenant we can get out and we can replace at a really healthy spread? So it's not just what's vacant today, but it's also about better improving the leasing on what's actually occupied. So 93, 94 is probably a good safe bet for us in 2026.

Jeff Mooallem: This has been an opportunity for our leasing team now that we're into this rarefied air on shop occupancy to actually go back around to some of the existing tenants and look at, is this a tenant we can get out and we can replace at a really healthy spread? So it's not just what's vacant today, but it's also about better improving the leasing on what's actually occupied. So 93, 94 is probably a good safe bet for us in 2026.

Speaker #8: So it’s not just what’s vacant today, but it’s also about better improving the leasing on what’s actually occupied. So 93, 94 is probably a good, safe bet for us in ’26.

Speaker #7: Helpful. My second question was just I think capital recycling has been a big theme for you guys. Just maybe talk a little bit more about sort of the acquisition pipeline and some of the cap rates.

Ronald Kamdem: Helpful. My second question was just, I think capital recycling has been a big theme for you guys. Just maybe talk a little bit more about sort of the acquisition pipeline and some of the cap rates. And then on the disposition side, sort of what are you sort of willing to put on the table this year in the portfolio? Thanks.

Ronald Kamdem: Helpful. My second question was just, I think capital recycling has been a big theme for you guys. Just maybe talk a little bit more about sort of the acquisition pipeline and some of the cap rates. And then on the disposition side, sort of what are you sort of willing to put on the table this year in the portfolio? Thanks.

Speaker #7: And then, on the disposition side, sort of what are you willing to put on the table this year in the portfolio?

Speaker #7: Thanks. Hey, good morning, Ron.

Jeffrey Olson: Good morning, Ron. It's Jeff Olson. I mean, the acquisition market is maybe as competitive as I've seen it. So cap rates are continuing to come down. There's been a lot of increased interest in the space from institutions. There are a lot of lenders out there, the banks, the insurance companies, that are lending at very attractive rates. So the good news is that it makes our existing assets more valuable and will probably allow us to do more capital recycling than we had originally intended because we should be able to get better cap rates on what we're selling. Finding properties at attractive valuations is hard. This property that we found in Bridgewater, we're super excited about that one. I think we're getting that at a cap rate that's north of 7.5%, and it has decent growth attached to it.

Jeff Olson: Good morning, Ron. It's Jeff Olson. I mean, the acquisition market is maybe as competitive as I've seen it. So cap rates are continuing to come down. There's been a lot of increased interest in the space from institutions. There are a lot of lenders out there, the banks, the insurance companies, that are lending at very attractive rates. So the good news is that it makes our existing assets more valuable and will probably allow us to do more capital recycling than we had originally intended because we should be able to get better cap rates on what we're selling. Finding properties at attractive valuations is hard. This property that we found in Bridgewater, we're super excited about that one. I think we're getting that at a cap rate that's north of 7.5%, and it has decent growth attached to it.

Speaker #8: It's Jeff Olson. I mean, the acquisition market is maybe as competitive as I've seen it. So cap rates are continuing to come down. There's been a lot of increased interest in the space from institutions.

Speaker #8: There are a lot of lenders out there. The banks, the insurance companies that are lending at very attractive rates. So the good news is that it makes our existing assets more valuable and will probably allow us to do more capital recycling than we had originally intended because we should be able to get better cap rates on what we're selling.

Speaker #8: Finding properties at attractive valuations is hard. This property that we found in Bridgewater, we're super excited about that one. I think we're getting that at a cap rate that's north of 7.5% and it has decent growth attached to it.

Speaker #8: The tenants include the likes of Chipotle, Shake Shack, Cava, and there's also a health and wellness component to it. I'm hoping that we're going to be able to use the proceeds from that asset to serve as a for a center that is Kohl's-anchored in New Jersey that would actually be accretive on a cap rate basis first year as well.

Jeffrey Olson: The tenants include the likes of Chipotle, Shake Shack, Cava, and there's also a health and wellness component to it. I'm hoping that we're going to be able to use the proceeds from that asset to serve as a 1031 exchange for a center that is Kohl's anchored in New Jersey that would actually be accretive on a cap rate basis first year as well. And if so, it would take Kohl's from being our number three ranked tenant by revenue down to number seven. And then we also have a space in Framingham, Massachusetts that we'll take back from Kohl's that would reduce their exposure even further. So that is the plan as of the moment.

Jeff Olson: The tenants include the likes of Chipotle, Shake Shack, Cava, and there's also a health and wellness component to it. I'm hoping that we're going to be able to use the proceeds from that asset to serve as a 1031 exchange for a center that is Kohl's anchored in New Jersey that would actually be accretive on a cap rate basis first year as well. And if so, it would take Kohl's from being our number three ranked tenant by revenue down to number seven. And then we also have a space in Framingham, Massachusetts that we'll take back from Kohl's that would reduce their exposure even further. So that is the plan as of the moment.

Speaker #8: And if so, it would take Kohl's from being our number three ranked tenant by revenue down to number seven. And then we also have a space in Framingham, Massachusetts that we will take back from Kohl's, which would reduce their exposure even further.

Speaker #8: So that is the plan as of the moment.

Speaker #7: Helpful. That's it for me. Thanks so

Ronald Kamdem: Helpful. That's it for me. Thanks so much.

Ronald Kamdem: Helpful. That's it for me. Thanks so much.

Speaker #7: much. Okay.

Jeffrey Olson: Okay. You bet. Thank you.

Jeff Olson: Okay. You bet. Thank you.

Speaker #8: You bet. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #6: question.

Speaker #9: Good morning.

Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Can you walk us through the Same Property NOI growth path over the next couple of years? You did healthy growth in 2025 of 5%. You're pointing to 2026 midpoint of 3.25% and then mentioned earlier, Jeff, that 2027 will be approximately 5%. So can you kind of walk through what are the puts and takes that drive the deceleration in '26 and then should drive the re-acceleration in '27? Thanks.

Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Can you walk us through the Same Property NOI growth path over the next couple of years? You did healthy growth in 2025 of 5%. You're pointing to 2026 midpoint of 3.25% and then mentioned earlier, Jeff, that 2027 will be approximately 5%. So can you kind of walk through what are the puts and takes that drive the deceleration in '26 and then should drive the re-acceleration in '27? Thanks.

Speaker #9: a lot for taking my question. Can you walk us through the same property at a wide growth path over the next couple of years?

Speaker #9: You did healthy growth in 2025 of 5%. You're pointing to 2026 midpoint of 3.25%, and then mentioned earlier, Jeff, that 2027 will be approximately 5%.

Speaker #9: So can you kind of walk through what are the puts and takes that drive the deceleration in '26 and then should drive the re-acceleration in '27?

Speaker #9: Thanks.

Speaker #8: Sure. Good morning,

Jeffrey Mooallem: Sure. Good morning, Michael. It's Mark. So let's just talk from 2025 to 2026, your first question about the deceleration. Really, two things I would point to that are behind that. First is just the fallout from At Home last year as well as Saks that we talked about this year. That's a little under $2 million of NOI headwind there. And then I think it was actually you had asked even on our last call whether there was any one-time benefits that came through in 2025. And we talked about 125 basis points of lift for some pretty sizable out-of-period collections that we got in 2025 as well as some prior year CAM bills. And so those items, we put them more in the one-time bucket.

Mark Langer: Sure. Good morning, Michael. It's Mark. So let's just talk from 2025 to 2026, your first question about the deceleration. Really, two things I would point to that are behind that. First is just the fallout from At Home last year as well as Saks that we talked about this year. That's a little under $2 million of NOI headwind there. And then I think it was actually you had asked even on our last call whether there was any one-time benefits that came through in 2025. And we talked about 125 basis points of lift for some pretty sizable out-of-period collections that we got in 2025 as well as some prior year CAM bills. And so those items, we put them more in the one-time bucket.

Speaker #8: Michael. It's Mark. So let's just talk from '25 to '26. Your first question about the deceleration. Really, two things I would point to that are behind that.

Speaker #8: First is just the fallout from at-home last year as well as SACS that we talked about this year. That's a little under $2 million of NOI headwind there.

Speaker #8: And then I think it was actually you had asked even on our last call whether there was any one-time benefits that came through in '25.

Speaker #8: And we talked about a $125 basis points of lift for some pretty sizable out-of-period collections that we got in '25 as well as some prior year CAM bills.

Speaker #8: And so those items we put more in the one-time bucket. And look, it's not unreasonable to think that we could have other one-time benefits this year but unless we have visibility of them, we don't bake them into guide.

Jeffrey Mooallem: And look, it's not unreasonable to think that we could have other one-time benefits this year, but unless we have visibility of them, we don't bake them into guide. So between some of the tenant fallout and those one-timers, that will get you to the decel. The second question regarding how do we then pick up in 2027, that's really the beauty of what Jeff talked about with our visibility from just the S&O pipeline, that we can see 80% of NOI growth coming from stuff that's already executed that we have to deliver. And that maps, Michael, to what we disclosed kind of in our S&O bridge. So those would be the two big factors.

Mark Langer: And look, it's not unreasonable to think that we could have other one-time benefits this year, but unless we have visibility of them, we don't bake them into guide. So between some of the tenant fallout and those one-timers, that will get you to the decel. The second question regarding how do we then pick up in 2027, that's really the beauty of what Jeff talked about with our visibility from just the S&O pipeline, that we can see 80% of NOI growth coming from stuff that's already executed that we have to deliver. And that maps, Michael, to what we disclosed kind of in our S&O bridge. So those would be the two big factors.

Speaker #8: So between some of the tenant fallout and those one-timers, that will get you to the decel. The second question regarding how do we then pick up in '27?

Speaker #8: That's really the beauty of what Jeff talked about with our visibility from just the S&O pipeline. That we can see 80% of NOI growth coming from stuff that's already executed that we have to deliver.

Speaker #8: And that maps, Michael, to what we've disclosed kind of in our S&O bridge. So those would be the two big factors.

Speaker #9: Mark, thanks for that. That really helpful. And then just as a follow-up, I think last year you started with a bad debt guidance of 75 to 100 basis points.

Michael Goldsmith: Mark, thanks for that. That's really helpful. And then just as a follow-up, I think last year you started with a bad debt guidance of 75 to 100 basis points. I believe in the prep remarks, you talked about 50 to 75 basis points. So can you talk about what changes this year, and does that reflect just kind of those on the watch list, the names that you kind of talked about just in the prior response coming out, and that gives you a cleaner portfolio based on what you see right now for 2026? Thanks.

Michael Goldsmith: Mark, thanks for that. That's really helpful. And then just as a follow-up, I think last year you started with a bad debt guidance of 75 to 100 basis points. I believe in the prep remarks, you talked about 50 to 75 basis points. So can you talk about what changes this year, and does that reflect just kind of those on the watch list, the names that you kind of talked about just in the prior response coming out, and that gives you a cleaner portfolio based on what you see right now for 2026? Thanks.

Speaker #9: I believe in the prepared remarks you talked about 50 to 75 basis points. So can you talk about this year? And does that reflect just kind of those on the watch list, the names that you kind of talked about just in the prior response coming out?

Speaker #9: And that gives you a cleaner portfolio based on what you see right now for '26. Thanks.

Speaker #8: Yeah, Michael. Look, I think it's a function just of some of the changes in the environment. When we sat here last year, the names that we were worried about between Party City and Michael's and Joann's and at-home which did file but took longer than we thought.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Yeah, Michael. Look, I think it's a function just of some of the changes in the environment. When we sat here last year, the names that we were worried about between Party City, Michaels, JOANN, and At Home, which did file but took longer than we thought. So really, the bad debt guidance this year is lower just because when we look through our portfolio tenant by tenant and really think about where is the most elevated risk of someone that's really going to fall out, we just feel better about the environment with our tenancy today than we did last year, a little bit on the margin, as you said, the 50 to 75. So it's really just a function of our assessment looking through the tenancy of the portfolio today.

Mark Langer: Yeah, Michael. Look, I think it's a function just of some of the changes in the environment. When we sat here last year, the names that we were worried about between Party City, Michaels, JOANN, and At Home, which did file but took longer than we thought. So really, the bad debt guidance this year is lower just because when we look through our portfolio tenant by tenant and really think about where is the most elevated risk of someone that's really going to fall out, we just feel better about the environment with our tenancy today than we did last year, a little bit on the margin, as you said, the 50 to 75. So it's really just a function of our assessment looking through the tenancy of the portfolio today.

Speaker #8: So really, the bad debt guidance this year is lower just because when we look through our portfolio tenant by tenant and really think about where is the most elevated risk of someone that's really going to fall out, we just feel better about the environment with our tenancy today.

Speaker #8: Then we did last year a little bit on the margin, as you said, the 50 to 75. So it's really just a function of our assessment looking through the tenancy of the portfolio today.

Speaker #9: Thank you very much. Good luck in 2026.

Michael Goldsmith: Thank you very much. Good luck in 2026.

Michael Goldsmith: Thank you very much. Good luck in 2026.

Speaker #8: Great. Thank you.

Jeffrey Olson: Great. Thank you.

Mark Langer: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Gorman with BTIG. Please proceed with your

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Gorman with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Gorman with BTIG. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #6: question.

Speaker #8: Yeah. Thanks. Good morning, Mark.

Michael Gorman: Yeah. Thanks. Good morning, Mark. If I could just go back to the same store for a second. You mentioned the tenant fallout. You also mentioned snow removal costs in the Q4, I thought I heard. I'm just wondering what you might have baked into the 2026 guidance for the winter storms that have already gone through the Northeast that might be having an impact there.

Michael Gorman: Yeah. Thanks. Good morning, Mark. If I could just go back to the same store for a second. You mentioned the tenant fallout. You also mentioned snow removal costs in the Q4, I thought I heard. I'm just wondering what you might have baked into the 2026 guidance for the winter storms that have already gone through the Northeast that might be having an impact there.

Speaker #8: go back to the same store, for a second, you mentioned the tenant fallout. You also mentioned snow removal costs in the fourth quarter, I thought I heard.

Speaker #8: And I'm just wondering, what you might have baked into the 2026 guidance for the winter storms that have already gone through the Northeast that might be having an impact there?

Speaker #8: Yeah. I mean, January was certainly off to a tough start. So what I can tell you, Michael, is our guidance range this year accounts for our estimate of what we incurred in January.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Yeah. I mean, January was certainly off to a tough start. So what I can tell you, Michael, is our guidance range this year accounts for our estimate of what we incurred in January. We're still going through and closing the books for that. Luckily, February, while brutally cold here in the northeast, knock on wood, hasn't had additional snowfall. So we feel that we've appropriately provisioned for snow in our guidance.

Mark Langer: Yeah. I mean, January was certainly off to a tough start. So what I can tell you, Michael, is our guidance range this year accounts for our estimate of what we incurred in January. We're still going through and closing the books for that. Luckily, February, while brutally cold here in the northeast, knock on wood, hasn't had additional snowfall. So we feel that we've appropriately provisioned for snow in our guidance.

Speaker #8: We're still going through and closing the books for that. Luckily, February while brutally cold here in the northeast, knock on wood, hasn't had additional snowfall.

Speaker #8: So, we feel that we've appropriately provisioned for snow in our guidance. Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. And then maybe just switching to the redevelopment pipeline.

Michael Gorman: Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And then maybe just switching to the redevelopment pipeline, you talked about it a bit in the prepared remarks. 14 projects completed successfully last year. I think another 13 are going to complete this year. You have a few listed out as potential starts. Can you just talk about additional opportunities, especially if acquisitions are going to remain challenging, to maybe accelerate starting new redevelopment projects in the existing portfolio? Thanks.

Michael Gorman: Okay. That's helpful. Thanks. And then maybe just switching to the redevelopment pipeline, you talked about it a bit in the prepared remarks. 14 projects completed successfully last year. I think another 13 are going to complete this year. You have a few listed out as potential starts. Can you just talk about additional opportunities, especially if acquisitions are going to remain challenging, to maybe accelerate starting new redevelopment projects in the existing portfolio? Thanks.

Speaker #8: You talked about it a bit in the prepared remarks. 14 projects completed successfully last year. I think another 13 are going to complete this year.

Speaker #8: You have a few listed out as potential starts. Can you just talk about additional opportunities, especially if acquisitions are going to remain challenging to maybe accelerate starting new redevelopment projects in the existing portfolio?

Speaker #8: Thanks. Yeah. Good morning, Mike. It's Jeff Mooallem. Yeah. I think you can think about our redevelopment program in two buckets. One of which is really the kind of blocking and tackling stuff that we consistently get these double-digit yields on where we're re-tenanting and anchor space.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Yeah. Good morning, Mike. It's Jeff Mooallem. Yeah, I think you can think about our redevelopment program in two buckets, one of which is really the kind of blocking and tackling stuff that we consistently get these double-digit yields on where we're re-tenanting an anchor space, we're adding a pad, we're maybe expanding a building somewhere, the sort of day-to-day, for lack of a better term, development work that we do here where we're repositioning our portfolio and constantly trying to improve it and enhance it. And if we can do that with better tenancy, maybe add some GLA, maybe turn a vacant old bank pad into a new restaurant pad and do that in that 14%, 15%, 16% yield range, we're doing that all day long. And that comprises our $166 million redevelopment pipeline.

Jeff Mooallem: Yeah. Good morning, Mike. It's Jeff Mooallem. Yeah, I think you can think about our redevelopment program in two buckets, one of which is really the kind of blocking and tackling stuff that we consistently get these double-digit yields on where we're re-tenanting an anchor space, we're adding a pad, we're maybe expanding a building somewhere, the sort of day-to-day, for lack of a better term, development work that we do here where we're repositioning our portfolio and constantly trying to improve it and enhance it. And if we can do that with better tenancy, maybe add some GLA, maybe turn a vacant old bank pad into a new restaurant pad and do that in that 14%, 15%, 16% yield range, we're doing that all day long. And that comprises our $166 million redevelopment pipeline.

Speaker #8: We're adding a pad. We're maybe expanding a building somewhere. The sort of the day-to-day, for lack of a better term, development work that we do here where we're repositioning our portfolio and constantly trying to improve it and enhance it.

Speaker #8: And if we can do that with better tenancy, maybe add some GLA, maybe turn a vacant old bank pad into a new restaurant pad and do that in that 14, 15, 16 percent yield range, we're doing that all day long.

Speaker #8: And that comprises our 166 million redevelopment pipeline. The second component of it is what we would call sort of the bigger undertakings that, frankly, don't get reported every quarter because they don't come along every quarter.

Jeffrey Mooallem: The second component of it is what we would call sort of the bigger undertakings that, frankly, don't get reported every quarter because they don't come along every quarter. So things like Sunrise Mall, Jersey City, New Jersey, Hudson Mall, Yonkers, Bruckner, some of our bigger projects where we are maybe having to go through a year or two of entitlement work in order to get to where we want to get to, and they might involve some demolition. They likely will involve an anchor tenant like Amazon or Walmart. Those projects take longer and are more complex and cost more money, but they add significant growth to us when they do come online, the perfect example being in 2027 when we'll see a lot of our heavy lifting at Bruckner come online. So we generally like to play in those two fields.

Jeff Mooallem: The second component of it is what we would call sort of the bigger undertakings that, frankly, don't get reported every quarter because they don't come along every quarter. So things like Sunrise Mall, Jersey City, New Jersey, Hudson Mall, Yonkers, Bruckner, some of our bigger projects where we are maybe having to go through a year or two of entitlement work in order to get to where we want to get to, and they might involve some demolition. They likely will involve an anchor tenant like Amazon or Walmart. Those projects take longer and are more complex and cost more money, but they add significant growth to us when they do come online, the perfect example being in 2027 when we'll see a lot of our heavy lifting at Bruckner come online. So we generally like to play in those two fields.

Speaker #8: So things like Sunrise Mall, Jersey City, New Jersey, Hudson Mall, Yonkers, Bruckner—some of our bigger projects—where we are maybe having to go through a year or two of entitlement work in order to get to where we want to get to.

Speaker #8: And they might involve some demolition. They likely will involve an anchor tenant like Amazon or like Walmart. Those projects take longer and are more complex and cost more money.

Speaker #8: But they add significant growth for us when they do come online. The perfect example is in 2027, when we'll see a lot of our heavy lifting at Bruckner come online.

Speaker #8: So we generally like to play in those two fields. I don't think you're going to see us buying a lot of vacant land and building ground up.

Jeffrey Mooallem: I don't think you're going to see us buying a lot of vacant land and building ground up. As I mentioned in my remarks, it doesn't really pencil out for anybody these days. When we have the opportunity to add to the portfolio in either a small bucket or a large bucket, that's what we're trying to do.

Jeff Mooallem: I don't think you're going to see us buying a lot of vacant land and building ground up. As I mentioned in my remarks, it doesn't really pencil out for anybody these days. When we have the opportunity to add to the portfolio in either a small bucket or a large bucket, that's what we're trying to do.

Speaker #8: As I mentioned in my remarks, it doesn't really pencil out for anybody these days. And when we have the opportunity to add to the portfolio in either a small bucket or a large bucket, that's what we're trying to do.

Speaker #8: Great. Thank you for the time.

Michael Gorman: Great. Thank you for the time.

Michael Gorman: Great. Thank you for the time.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #8: Great. Thanks. Three, Michael G's in a row. Got to love it. Jeff, my question to you. Jeff, my question to you is just on the leasing on the quarter for new lease spreads came in at about 11%.

Ronald Kamdem: Great. Thanks. Three Michael Gs in a row. Got to love it. Jeff, my question to you. Jeff, my question to you is just on the leasing on the quarter for new lease spreads. Came in at about 11%. I know that these things can be choppy quarter-over-quarter, and it seems like you're projecting 20% new lease spreads for the year ahead. But I mean, any kind of puts and takes or things just on the quarterly number that maybe it came in a little bit lighter? Can you give us some context around that?

Michael Griffin: Great. Thanks. Three Michael Gs in a row. Got to love it. Jeff, my question to you. Jeff, my question to you is just on the leasing on the quarter for new lease spreads. Came in at about 11%. I know that these things can be choppy quarter-over-quarter, and it seems like you're projecting 20% new lease spreads for the year ahead. But I mean, any kind of puts and takes or things just on the quarterly number that maybe it came in a little bit lighter? Can you give us some context around that?

Speaker #8: I know that these things can be choppy quarter over quarter. And it seems like you're projecting 20% new lease spreads for the year ahead.

Speaker #8: But I mean, any kind of puts and takes or things just on the quarterly number that maybe it came in a little bit lighter?

Speaker #8: Or can you give us some context around that? It was just a low number overall. It was only on 37,000 square feet of space.

Jeffrey Olson: It was just a low number overall. It was only on 37,000 sq ft of space. So I think you have to look at it more on a 4-quarter rolling basis.

Jeff Olson: It was just a low number overall. It was only on 37,000 sq ft of space. So I think you have to look at it more on a 4-quarter rolling basis.

Speaker #8: So I think you have to look at it more on a four-quarter rolling basis. Great. That's some helpful context. And then maybe just going back to kind of the capital recycling theme.

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That's some helpful context. And then maybe just going back to kind of the capital recycling theme, is there an opportunity, I guess, within your centers to potentially carve out and dispose of the anchor tenant that might be there for a while but has flat lease escalators? Right? I think about the Home Depot at Hanover Commons, right? High-quality tenant in a great center but probably doesn't have a lot of growth there. Is that, I guess, a capital recycling avenue that you can then redeploy those proceeds into higher growth opportunities while still maintaining some of the other tenants within the center?

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That's some helpful context. And then maybe just going back to kind of the capital recycling theme, is there an opportunity, I guess, within your centers to potentially carve out and dispose of the anchor tenant that might be there for a while but has flat lease escalators? Right? I think about the Home Depot at Hanover Commons, right? High-quality tenant in a great center but probably doesn't have a lot of growth there. Is that, I guess, a capital recycling avenue that you can then redeploy those proceeds into higher growth opportunities while still maintaining some of the other tenants within the center?

Speaker #8: Is there an opportunity, I guess, within your centers to potentially carve out and dispose of the anchor tenant that might be there for a while but has flat lease escalators?

Speaker #8: I think about the Home Depot at Hanover Commons, right? High-quality tenant in a great center, but probably doesn't have a lot of growth there.

Speaker #8: Is that, I guess, a capital recycling avenue that you can then redeploy those proceeds into higher-growth opportunities while still maintaining some of the other tenants within the center?

Speaker #8: Yeah. I mean, I think it is. What we don't want to do is chop up the center. So in East Hanover, because Home Depot shares a parking lot with other tenants, it just makes it more complicated.

Jeffrey Olson: Yeah. I mean, I think it is. What we don't want to do is chop up the center. So in East Hanover, because Home Depot shares a parking lot with other tenants, it just makes it more complicated, and we want to be in control. But we absolutely have freestanding Home Depots and Costcos and Lowe's that operate independently where the land is subdivided or it will be. So yes, we do think that's an attractive source of capital. And we've been using that over the last several years. So we have sold some spaces back to Home Depot and others.

Jeff Olson: Yeah. I mean, I think it is. What we don't want to do is chop up the center. So in East Hanover, because Home Depot shares a parking lot with other tenants, it just makes it more complicated, and we want to be in control. But we absolutely have freestanding Home Depots and Costcos and Lowe's that operate independently where the land is subdivided or it will be. So yes, we do think that's an attractive source of capital. And we've been using that over the last several years. So we have sold some spaces back to Home Depot and others.

Speaker #8: And we want to be in control. But we absolutely have freestanding Home Depots and Costcos and Lowe's that operate independently, where the land is subdivided, or it will be.

Speaker #8: So yes, we do think that's an attractive source of capital. And we've been using that over the last several years. So we have sold some spaces back to Home Depot and others.

Speaker #8: Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time. Okay. Appreciate it. The next Michael G,

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time.

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time.

Jeffrey Olson: Okay. Appreciate it. The next Michael G, please.

Jeff Olson: Okay. Appreciate it. The next Michael G, please.

Speaker #8: please. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you'd like to join the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Floris van Dijken with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed with your question.

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Speaker #8: Thanks. I'm definitely not a Michael G. So thanks, guys, for taking my question. So getting maybe a little bit more into the capital recycling which you guys have done incredibly well over the last couple of years.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Thanks. I'm definitely not a Michael G. So thanks, guys, for taking my question. So getting maybe a little bit more into the capital recycling, which you guys have done incredibly well over the last couple of years, mind you. But as cap rates have compressed in your core markets, maybe talk about the cap rates and the spread that you've historically achieved. How is that? It looks like it's shrinking if I look at what you did, the assets you sold last year and the asset you bought in Massachusetts. There's a 50 basis point spread there. It's still positive. But you used to be able to get significantly higher spreads on your capital recycling. How do you see that transpiring going forward? Maybe if you can talk a little bit about that and what you think is happening to cap rates.

Floris Dijkum: Thanks. I'm definitely not a Michael G. So thanks, guys, for taking my question. So getting maybe a little bit more into the capital recycling, which you guys have done incredibly well over the last couple of years, mind you. But as cap rates have compressed in your core markets, maybe talk about the cap rates and the spread that you've historically achieved. How is that? It looks like it's shrinking if I look at what you did, the assets you sold last year and the asset you bought in Massachusetts. There's a 50 basis point spread there. It's still positive. But you used to be able to get significantly higher spreads on your capital recycling. How do you see that transpiring going forward? Maybe if you can talk a little bit about that and what you think is happening to cap rates.

Speaker #8: Mind you, but as cap rates have compressed in your core markets, maybe talk about the cap rates and the spread that you've historically achieved.

Speaker #8: How has that it looks like it's shrinking if I look at what you did the assets you sold last year and the asset you bought in Massachusetts.

Speaker #8: There's a 50 basis point spread there. It's still positive. But you used to be able to get significantly higher spreads on your capital recycling.

Speaker #8: How do you see that forward, maybe if you can talk a little bit about that and what you think is happening to cap rates?

Speaker #8: Yeah. I mean, the spreads clearly have narrowed. So I think achieving a 200 basis point spread as we've done is unlikely. But I think what's highly likely is that that spread of 50 basis points, call it, that we did last year, when you look at the growth rate on what we're buying versus what we're selling, I think there may be a 2 to 3 hundred basis point spread in growth.

Jeffrey Olson: Yeah. I mean, the spreads clearly have narrowed. So I think achieving a 200 basis points spread as we've done is unlikely. But I think what's highly likely is that spread of 50 basis points, call it, that we did last year, when you look at the growth rate on what we're buying versus what we're selling. I think there may be a 2 to 300 basis points spread in growth on an annual basis. So we are looking to use capital recycling to accelerate our internal growth by selling some high-quality, good-credit assets that might have 1% growth and exchanging those in an accretive manner initially with assets that might be growing at 2.5 to 3% and might have some opportunities for redevelopment in the future.

Jeff Olson: Yeah. I mean, the spreads clearly have narrowed. So I think achieving a 200 basis points spread as we've done is unlikely. But I think what's highly likely is that spread of 50 basis points, call it, that we did last year, when you look at the growth rate on what we're buying versus what we're selling. I think there may be a 2 to 300 basis points spread in growth on an annual basis. So we are looking to use capital recycling to accelerate our internal growth by selling some high-quality, good-credit assets that might have 1% growth and exchanging those in an accretive manner initially with assets that might be growing at 2.5 to 3% and might have some opportunities for redevelopment in the future.

Speaker #8: On an annual basis. So we are looking to use capital recycling to accelerate our internal growth by selling some high-quality good credit assets that might have 1% growth in exchanging those in an accretive manner initially with assets that might be growing at 2 and a half to 3 percent and might have some opportunities for redevelopment in the future.

Speaker #8: Thanks, Jeff. And maybe my follow-up, if you could talk a little bit about two assets in particular. One, Gateway, which has very low rents.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Thanks, Jeff. Maybe my follow-up, if you could talk a little bit about two assets in particular, one Gateway, which has very low rents. Curious as to what you're doing to optimize rents and growth in that asset. And then Bruckner, which obviously you're spending a lot of capital, which should be one of your best assets when it's fully completed. And do you think you can do something like what you've done at Bruckner at Gateway going? I guess was my question. Hey, Floris. Good morning. It's Jeff. Yeah, let's take Gateway first. I mean, as you're right, big piece of property sitting in Everett, Massachusetts, Boston skyline on the horizon right next to the Encore Hotel and soon to be right next to the new Major League Soccer Stadium in New England. So it's just a fantastic piece of land.

Floris Dijkum: Thanks, Jeff. Maybe my follow-up, if you could talk a little bit about two assets in particular, one Gateway, which has very low rents. Curious as to what you're doing to optimize rents and growth in that asset. And then Bruckner, which obviously you're spending a lot of capital, which should be one of your best assets when it's fully completed. And do you think you can do something like what you've done at Bruckner at Gateway going? I guess was my question.

Speaker #8: Curious as to what you're doing to optimize rents and growth in that asset. And then Bruckner, which obviously you're spending a lot of capital, which should be one of your best assets when it's fully completed.

Speaker #8: And do you think you can do something like what you've done at Bruckner at Gateway going I guess was my question. Hey, Floris. Good morning.

Jeff Mooallem: Hey, Floris. Good morning. It's Jeff. Yeah, let's take Gateway first. I mean, as you're right, big piece of property sitting in Everett, Massachusetts, Boston skyline on the horizon right next to the Encore Hotel and soon to be right next to the new Major League Soccer Stadium in New England. So it's just a fantastic piece of land.

Speaker #8: It's Jeff. Yeah. Let's take Gateway first. I mean, as you're right, big piece of property sitting in Everett, Massachusetts, Boston skyline on the horizon, right next to the Encore Hotel and soon to be right next to the new Major League Soccer stadium.

Speaker #8: In New England. So it's just a fantastic piece of land. Unfortunately, it's got a lot of tenants with a lot of long-term leases. So if we could snap our fingers and get space back, I think you'd see us be able to meaningfully move the needle on what that asset could look like.

Jeffrey Mooallem: Unfortunately, it's got a lot of tenants with a lot of long-term leases. So if we could snap our fingers and get space back, I think you'd see us be able to meaningfully move the needle on what that asset could look like and the rents that we could achieve on it. But like a lot of these types of power centers, it'll be a longer, slower one. As we get space back, we're able to re-tenant it. Would love to add a Trader Joe's or a Sprouts or a high-end grocer there. We just don't have a space for them. So that'll be something we continue to talk about internally. But right now, it's pretty much fully leased. There's one small vacancy that we have a lot of interest on.

Jeff Mooallem: Unfortunately, it's got a lot of tenants with a lot of long-term leases. So if we could snap our fingers and get space back, I think you'd see us be able to meaningfully move the needle on what that asset could look like and the rents that we could achieve on it. But like a lot of these types of power centers, it'll be a longer, slower one. As we get space back, we're able to re-tenant it. Would love to add a Trader Joe's or a Sprouts or a high-end grocer there. We just don't have a space for them. So that'll be something we continue to talk about internally. But right now, it's pretty much fully leased. There's one small vacancy that we have a lot of interest on.

Speaker #8: And the rents that we could achieve on it. But like a lot of these types of power centers, it’ll be a longer, slower one as we get space back.

Speaker #8: We're able to retenant it. Would love to add a Trader Joe's or a Sprouts or a high-end grocer there. We just don't have a space for them.

Speaker #8: So that'll be something we continue to talk about internally. But right now, it's pretty much fully leased. There's one small vacancy. That we have a lot of interest on.

Speaker #8: But until we can get some of the anchor and junior anchor space back, there's not a lot more we can do there. Bruckner, it's a perfect example, though, of what happens when an opportunity does present itself.

Jeffrey Mooallem: But until we can get some of the anchor and junior anchor space back, there's not a lot more we can do there. Bruckner is a perfect example, though, of what happens when an opportunity does present itself. Losing the Kmart there gave us the opportunity to really rethink not just the Kmart and the Toys"R"Us that was in front of it, but the whole shopping center. And if you were to go out to Bruckner today, you would see a pretty heavy construction site. And if you go out to Bruckner a year from now, you would see a Chick-fil-A on the corner open for business, a Chipotle open for business, and hopefully a BJ's Wholesale Club and a Ross Dress for Less open for business.

Jeff Mooallem: But until we can get some of the anchor and junior anchor space back, there's not a lot more we can do there. Bruckner is a perfect example, though, of what happens when an opportunity does present itself. Losing the Kmart there gave us the opportunity to really rethink not just the Kmart and the Toys"R"Us that was in front of it, but the whole shopping center. And if you were to go out to Bruckner today, you would see a pretty heavy construction site. And if you go out to Bruckner a year from now, you would see a Chick-fil-A on the corner open for business, a Chipotle open for business, and hopefully a BJ's Wholesale Club and a Ross Dress for Less open for business.

Speaker #8: Losing the Kmart there gave us the opportunity to really rethink not just the Kmart and the Toys R Us that was in front of it, but the whole shopping center.

Speaker #8: And if you were to go out to Bruckner today, you would see a pretty heavy construction site. And if you go out to Bruckner a year from now, you would see a Chick-fil-A on the corner open for business, a Chipotle open for business.

Speaker #8: And hopefully, a BJ's Brewhouse and a Ross Dress for Less open for business. So when you add those kinds of tenants, you're adding, effectively, a third grocer with BJ's.

Jeffrey Mooallem: So when you add those kinds of tenants, you're adding effectively a third grocer with BJ's to the ShopRite and the Aldi that are already there. When you add those kinds of tenants and you bring in more soft goods, we have Marshalls, we've got Burlington, now we'll be adding Ross and another soft goods tenant next to Ross, and then, of course, you add food offerings like we'll be able to put in anchored by Chipotle and Chick-fil-A, that asset really does become a complete redevelopment and one that we're incredibly proud of. Jeff likes to say that when he started Urban Edge, it was the ugliest shopping center he ever saw. And then now we all kind of think it's one of the nicest shopping centers, certainly in the five boroughs.

Jeff Mooallem: So when you add those kinds of tenants, you're adding effectively a third grocer with BJ's to the ShopRite and the Aldi that are already there. When you add those kinds of tenants and you bring in more soft goods, we have Marshalls, we've got Burlington, now we'll be adding Ross and another soft goods tenant next to Ross, and then, of course, you add food offerings like we'll be able to put in anchored by Chipotle and Chick-fil-A, that asset really does become a complete redevelopment and one that we're incredibly proud of. Jeff likes to say that when he started Urban Edge, it was the ugliest shopping center he ever saw. And then now we all kind of think it's one of the nicest shopping centers, certainly in the five boroughs.

Speaker #8: To the shop right in the Aldi that are already there when you add those kinds of tenants and you bring in more soft goods.

Speaker #8: We have Marshall's. We've got Burlington. Now we'll be adding Ross and another soft goods tenant next to Ross. And then, of course, you add food offerings like we'll be able to put in anchored by Chipotle and Chick-fil-A.

Speaker #8: That asset really does become a complete redevelopment and one that we're incredibly proud of. Jeff likes to say that when he started Urban Edge, it was the ugliest shopping center he ever saw.

Speaker #8: And then now we all kind of think it's one of the nicest shopping centers, certainly in the five boroughs. So, Bruckner is a good litmus test for where we'd like to get to.

Jeffrey Mooallem: So Bruckner is a good litmus test for where we'd like to get to, but we have to have the space back first to get it.

Jeff Mooallem: So Bruckner is a good litmus test for where we'd like to get to, but we have to have the space back first to get it.

Speaker #8: But we have to have the space back first to get it. And to put Bruckner in context, I think our NOY was around 7 million dollars last year at Bruckner.

Jeffrey Olson: To put Bruckner in context, I think our NOI was around $7 million last year at Bruckner. In 2028, we're expecting it will increase by $8 million to $15 million. It's driving a lot of growth over the next several years.

Jeff Olson: To put Bruckner in context, I think our NOI was around $7 million last year at Bruckner. In 2028, we're expecting it will increase by $8 million to $15 million. It's driving a lot of growth over the next several years.

Speaker #8: And in 2028, we're expecting it will increase by 8 million dollars to 15 million dollars. So it's driving a lot of growth over the next several years.

Speaker #8: Thanks, guys.

Ronald Kamdem: Thanks, guys.

Floris Dijkum: Thanks, guys.

Speaker #6: Thanks, Floris. Thank

Michael Goldsmith: Thanks, Floris.

Jeff Olson: Thanks, Floris.

Speaker #9: you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Olson for any final

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Olson for any final comments.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Olson for any final comments.

Speaker #9: comments. Great.

Jeffrey Olson: Great. We appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to seeing you soon. Thank you.

Jeff Olson: Great. We appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to seeing you soon. Thank you.

Speaker #8: We appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to seeing you soon. Thank you.

Speaker #8: you. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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