Q4 2025 Five9 Inc Earnings Call
Future financial performance and cash, cash position of the company expected improvements in financial and related metrics. Expected ARR from certain customers.
Speaker #5: 2025 gap EPS was positive for the first time on an annual basis, at 45 cents per diluted share, while non-gap EPS came in at $2.96 per diluted share.
Speaker #5: Operating cash flow for 2025 finished at $226 million, and free cash flow came in at $162 million. Now turning to our full-year 2026 and first quarter guidance.
Speaker #5: For 2026 revenue, we're initiating our guidance at a midpoint of $1.254 billion, which is in line with the high-level outlook we provided last quarter.
Speaker #5: For Q1 revenue, we're guiding to a midpoint of $299.5 million, which is also consistent with the high-level outlook of relatively flat sequential change we shared last quarter.
Certain expected Revenue, mix shifts expectations regarding seasonality customer growth. Anticipated, customer benefits from our solution, including from AI, our Ai and Cass Revenue opportunities, and current estimations, regarding the same, including the ability to leverage data in support of AI Revenue opportunities company, growth enhancements to development of our solution Market size and Trends. Our expectations regarding macroeconomic conditions company market and Leadership positions, including the effective onboarding of our new chief executive officer business initiatives pipeline technology and product initiatives, including investment in R&D and AI including a recently announced Suite of our AI Solutions as well as other future events or results are forward-looking statements within the meeting of the private security litigation Reform, Act of 1995.
Speaker #5: In terms of quarterly progression, we expect Q2 revenue to increase slightly quarter over quarter, followed by momentum building further throughout the year. As a result, we continue to expect revenue to return to double-digit growth in the second half of 2026, driven by our strong backlog of both new logo and install-based bookings.
Such statements are simply predictions should not be unduly relied upon by investors actual events or results May differ materially, and the company undertakes. No, obligation to update the information in such statements.
Speaker #5: With regard to the bottom line, we're guiding 2026 non-GAAP EPS to a midpoint of $3.18 per diluted share, which is higher than the high-level outlook of $3.14 per diluted share that we provided during our last earnings call.
Speaker #5: We're also guiding to continued GAAP profitability in 2026, with a midpoint of $0.91 per diluted share for GAAP EPS. For Q1 non-GAAP EPS, we're guiding to a midpoint of $0.68, which reflects a typical sequential decline in the first quarter of the year.
These statements are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties that could adversely affect 59 future results and cause these forward-looking statements to be an accurate, including the impact of adverse economic conditions including the impact of macroeconomic challenges. Including continuing inflation, uncertainty regarding consumer spending High, interest rates fluctuations in currency exchange rates, lower growth rates within our install based customers and the other risks discussed under the caption risk, factors and elsewhere in 59th annual and quarterly reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
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Speaker #5: As for the remainder of the year, we expect a relatively flat sequential move in the second quarter, and large improvements in the second half. Also, for other key profitability metrics, we expect at least 24% in annual adjusted EBITDA margin, and approximately $175 million in annual free cash flow.
Management will make reference to non-gaap financial measures during this call. A discussion of why we use non-gaap Financial measures and information regarding reconciliation of our gas versus non-gaap results. And guidance is currently available in our press release issued earlier this afternoon, as well as in the appendant appendix of our investor deck that can be found in the investor relations section of 59 website.
Speaker #5: Additionally, we plan to host an Investor Day in late 2026, where we will provide additional details on our strategic priorities and long-term financial outlook.
Also, please note that the information provided on this call, speaks only to Management's views as of today and may no longer be accurate at the time of a replay.
Speaker #5: We look forward to sharing more with you at that time. Finally, on our share repurchase program, we completed a $50 million accelerated share repurchase on February 2nd, buying back approximately 2.6 million shares.
lastly, a reminder that unless otherwise indicated figures Financial figures discuss our non-gaap
And now I'd like to turn the call over to 59 chairman Mike berkeland.
Speaker #5: We have $100 million remaining under our authorization through December 2027. This reflects our strong cash generation and confidence in Five9's value creation opportunity. In closing, 2025 was a transformational year for Five9.
Thanks Tony. And thanks everyone for joining our call this afternoon, before we discuss our strong finish to the year, I want to acknowledge that. This is my final earnings call at 59 after 18 years with the company.
It has been the privilege of my career to lead this organization and I'm incredibly proud of what we've accomplished together.
Speaker #5: We delivered strong financial performance, expanded our AI capabilities, and strengthened our strategic partnerships. We believe we have positioned the company well for sustained, profitable growth.
We've grown 59 from approximately 10 million in annual revenue to a 1.2 billion dollar run rate while enabling some of the largest brands in the world to transform their customer experience.
Speaker #5: With Amit now leading the team, we're energized about our opportunities ahead and committed to executing our strategy to deliver long-term shareholder value. And with that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Operator: On this call speaks only to management's views as of today and may no longer be accurate at the time of a replay. Lastly, a reminder that unless otherwise indicated, figures, financial figures discussed are non-GAAP. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Five9's chairman, Mike Burkland.
Operator: On this call speaks only to management's views as of today and may no longer be accurate at the time of a replay. Lastly, a reminder that unless otherwise indicated, figures, financial figures discussed are non-GAAP. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Five9's chairman, Mike Burkland.
These achievements are a testament to The Talented team of 5 Niners, and our vision to be the leader in AI, powered CX.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Brian. Before we begin our Q&A session, we ask that our analysts please be on camera and limit themselves to one question to allow for as many questions as time permits.
As you know, Ahmed Matra started as CEO on February 2nd. And before we dive into the business results, I want to take a moment to formally. Welcome, Ahmed to his first earnings call.
Mike Burkland: Thanks, Tony, and thanks everyone for joining our call this afternoon. Before we discuss our strong finish to the year, I want to acknowledge that this is my final earnings call at Five9 after 18 years with the company. It has been the privilege of my career to lead this organization, and I'm incredibly proud of what we've accomplished together. We've grown Five9 from approximately $10 million in annual revenue to a $1.2 billion run rate, while enabling some of the largest brands in the world to transform their customer experience. These achievements are a testament to the talented team of Five9ers and our vision to be the leader in AI-powered CX.
Mike Burkland: Thanks, Tony, and thanks everyone for joining our call this afternoon. Before we discuss our strong finish to the year, I want to acknowledge that this is my final earnings call at Five9 after 18 years with the company. It has been the privilege of my career to lead this organization, and I'm incredibly proud of what we've accomplished together. We've grown Five9 from approximately $10 million in annual revenue to a $1.2 billion run rate, while enabling some of the largest brands in the world to transform their customer experience. These achievements are a testament to the talented team of Five9ers and our vision to be the leader in AI-powered CX.
Speaker #1: Our first question comes from Raimo Lentschel, from Barclays. I'll ask you to unmute at this time.
After a comprehensive search process, we selected emit for his deep experience in product Innovation. Ai and operational excellence at scale,
Speaker #5: Hey, guys, this is Dan McGovern on from Raimo. Thanks for taking the question. Congrats on your retirement, Mike, and congrats, Amit, as well for the new role.
his leadership style and his proven track record of leading through evolving market conditions. Align perfectly with 5 nights culture and the tremendous opportunity ahead of us.
Speaker #5: Great to hear the continued strength with the AI portfolio reaching $100 million ARR, accelerating 50% year over year. Can you help us understand some of the breakdown between what is Greenfield and then what is within your existing customer base?
I have the utmost confidence in omits leadership and all of us here at 59 are extremely excited to start this new chapter with Amit at the helm.
With that comment, I'll turn it over to you to share a few of your initial thoughts, on 59 and our opportunity ahead.
Speaker #5: And then, what is factored into the 2026 guide, just from that portfolio? Thank you.
Speaker #2: And I'll start, and Brian, feel free to chime in. But look, this is a combination of us having a lot of success with new logo, attach of AI, and also penetration into our installed base.
Mike Burkland: As you know, Amit Mathradas started as CEO on 2 February, and before we dive into the business results, I want to take a moment to formally welcome Amit to his first earnings call. After a comprehensive search process, we selected Amit for his deep experience in product innovation, AI, and operational excellence at scale. His leadership style and his proven track record of leading through evolving market conditions align perfectly with Five9's culture and the tremendous opportunity ahead of us. I have the utmost confidence in Amit's leadership, and all of us here at Five9 are extremely excited to start this new chapter with Amit at the helm. With that, Amit, I'll turn it over to you to share a few of your initial thoughts on Five9 and our opportunity ahead.
Mike Burkland: As you know, Amit Mathradas started as CEO on 2 February, and before we dive into the business results, I want to take a moment to formally welcome Amit to his first earnings call. After a comprehensive search process, we selected Amit for his deep experience in product innovation, AI, and operational excellence at scale. His leadership style and his proven track record of leading through evolving market conditions align perfectly with Five9's culture and the tremendous opportunity ahead of us. I have the utmost confidence in Amit's leadership, and all of us here at Five9 are extremely excited to start this new chapter with Amit at the helm. With that, Amit, I'll turn it over to you to share a few of your initial thoughts on Five9 and our opportunity ahead.
Thanks Mike. I am thrilled to join my first 59 conference call, and would like to express my gratitude to the leadership team and the board for putting their trust in me as 59 next CEO.
Speaker #2: I don't think we quantified the breakdown between the two, but I can tell you both are growing at a significant rate and very strong.
Speaker #3: Yeah, and if you think about the 2026 revenue guidance, we've kind of given you the shape of the curve. On a total revenue basis, and this is the first time we've given you the breakout and growth rates between enterprise AI as well as core CCAS.
I officially started on February 2nd, and in the past 2 weeks, I've spent time meeting Partners, customers listening to employees reviewing road maps and getting deeper into the operational Cadence and what I have seen. So far, has reinforced why I took this role
And that we have the right foundation to capture more of it.
Speaker #3: So core CCAS, obviously, that's a big portion today. And that's going to follow the shape of the curve for the total revenue guide, which means that if you back into the enterprise AI, it's going to still be growing at a very fast clip.
I strongly believe that over the long term customers will look to 59 for a unified CX platform that can solve a agentic and traditional human needs.
Speaker #3: But it'll ebb and flow through the quarters. But it's still going to be the fastest part of our portfolio.
This multi-agent, world uniquely positions, 59 to drive, efficiency, Elevate, customer experience for all our customers.
Amit Mathradas: Thanks, Mike. I am thrilled to join my first Five9 conference call, and would like to express my gratitude to the leadership team and the board for putting their trust in me as Five9's next CEO. I officially started on 2 February 2026, and in the past two weeks, I have spent time meeting partners, customers, listening to employees, reviewing roadmaps, and getting deeper into the operational cadence. What I have seen so far has reinforced why I took this role. I joined Five9 for a simple reason. That is, I believe we have a large opportunity in front of us, and that we have the right foundation to capture more of it. I strongly believe that over the long term, customers will look to Five9 for a unified CX platform that can solve their agentic and traditional human needs.
Amit Mathradas: Thanks, Mike. I am thrilled to join my first Five9 conference call, and would like to express my gratitude to the leadership team and the board for putting their trust in me as Five9's next CEO. I officially started on 2 February 2026, and in the past two weeks, I have spent time meeting partners, customers, listening to employees, reviewing roadmaps, and getting deeper into the operational cadence. What I have seen so far has reinforced why I took this role. I joined Five9 for a simple reason. That is, I believe we have a large opportunity in front of us, and that we have the right foundation to capture more of it. I strongly believe that over the long term, customers will look to Five9 for a unified CX platform that can solve their agentic and traditional human needs.
Speaker #5: Got it. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #1: OK, our next question comes from Siti Panigari from Zuhal. Siti, go ahead and ask you to unmute at this time.
From a communication standpoint, you should know that. I will be clear on what's working, what is not and what we are doing to him.
And with that, I'll turn it back to Mike to discuss our fourth quarter and fully your performance. Mike
Speaker #6: Great. Mike, it was great working with you, and I wish you good luck in your next phase. And Amit, congratulations—I look forward to working with you.
Speaker #2: Thank ank you.
Speaker #6: Great. Amit, I want to ask you you have great product experience, operation, and you look at AI outside the industry. As you look into 59, and I know you talked about opportunities huge, how do you see to navigate 59 when it comes to product or where do you think you can bring some changes or where do you think it's working?
Thanks Robert. We're pleased to report solid Q4 results. We had an exceptional, bookings quarter. Achieving a Q4 record, highlighted by Enterprise, AI bookings more than doubling year-over-year, contributing to healthy increases in backlog. In terms of Top Line, we finished the year strong with fourth quarter, total revenue coming in at $300 million
subscription Revenue, which now makes up 82% of total accelerated to 12% year-over-year, growth and Q4.
Amit Mathradas: This multi-agent world uniquely positions Five9 to drive efficiency, elevate customer experience for all our customers. From a communication standpoint, you should know that I will be clear on what's working, what is not, and what we are doing to improve it. With that, I'll turn it back to Mike to discuss our fourth quarter and full year performance. Mike?
Amit Mathradas: This multi-agent world uniquely positions Five9 to drive efficiency, elevate customer experience for all our customers. From a communication standpoint, you should know that I will be clear on what's working, what is not, and what we are doing to improve it. With that, I'll turn it back to Mike to discuss our fourth quarter and full year performance. Mike?
This was driven by Enterprise, AI Revenue growth accelerating from 41% to 50% year-over-year and core ccass subscription Revenue growth accelerating from 7% to 8% year-over-year.
Speaker #6: Or do you think it is too early to talk about that?
Speaker #2: Thank you, Siti, for that question. Look, I think the answer is a combination of what you laid out a little bit. Look, one of the reasons I took this role is I am really bullish on the transformation that's going to happen within the CX space.
I'm also excited to report that our Enterprise AI annual run rate Revenue surpassed $100 million in the fourth quarter.
Mike Burkland: Thanks, Amit. We're pleased to report solid Q4 results. We had an exceptional bookings quarter, achieving a Q4 record, highlighted by enterprise AI bookings more than doubling year-over-year, contributing to healthy increases in backlog. In terms of top line, we finished the year strong, with fourth quarter total revenue coming in at $300 million. Subscription revenue, which now makes up 82% of total, accelerated to 12% year-over-year growth in Q4. This was driven by enterprise AI revenue growth accelerating from 41% to 50% year-over-year, and core CCaaS subscription revenue growth accelerating from 7% to 8% year-over-year. I'm also excited to report that our enterprise AI annual run rate revenue surpassed $100 million in the fourth quarter.
Mike Burkland: Thanks, Amit. We're pleased to report solid Q4 results. We had an exceptional bookings quarter, achieving a Q4 record, highlighted by enterprise AI bookings more than doubling year-over-year, contributing to healthy increases in backlog. In terms of top line, we finished the year strong, with fourth quarter total revenue coming in at $300 million. Subscription revenue, which now makes up 82% of total, accelerated to 12% year-over-year growth in Q4. This was driven by enterprise AI revenue growth accelerating from 41% to 50% year-over-year, and core CCaaS subscription revenue growth accelerating from 7% to 8% year-over-year. I'm also excited to report that our enterprise AI annual run rate revenue surpassed $100 million in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #2: As humans, agents, systems, software all come together, I actually think this turns allows our end users and customers to have more efficiency, greater experiences.
On the bottom line, we achieved all-time records of the fourth quarter with adjusted. Eva increasing to a margin of 26% and free cash flow, more than doubling year-over-year to a margin of 22%.
These results demonstrate our commitment to balanced growth and operational excellence.
Speaker #2: And in some cases, new experiences that haven't even been factored in as yet, right? Just like how the internet per se transformed retail. And so for me, I am really looking forward to unlocking that, which is how do we actually increase the TAM by doing new things with AI and traditional CCAS?
I'm incredibly proud of our team's execution and with our strong positioning in AI, powered CX. We believe we're set up for continued success, in 2026 and Beyond.
Turning now to our business updates today, I'd like to focus on 3 key topics first, our large and growing Market opportunity. Second our differentiated position in AI driven CX, and third, our strong partner momentum,
Speaker #2: And providing customers new opportunities. To the second part of the question on where do we go from here, and which pieces, it's a little bit early.
Speaker #2: I'm still getting my feet around our product and our roadmaps. But what is really exciting is the stat we put out, which is we've already done $100 million in ARR of AI and it's growing.
We are in the early stages of a long-term transition in the CX industry with multiple secular growth factors driving. A significantly expanding addressable market for our platform.
Mike Burkland: On the bottom line, we achieved all-time records the fourth quarter, with adjusted EBITDA increasing to a margin of 26% and free cash flow more than doubling year-over-year to a margin of 22%. These results demonstrate our commitment to balanced growth and operational excellence. I'm incredibly proud of our team's execution, and with our strong positioning in AI-powered CX, we believe we're set up for continued success in 2026 and beyond. Turning now to our business updates, today I'd like to focus on three key topics. First, our large and growing market opportunity. Second, our differentiated position in AI-driven CX. Third, our strong partner momentum. We are in the early stages of a long-term transition in the CX industry, with multiple secular growth factors driving a significantly expanding addressable market for our platform.
Mike Burkland: On the bottom line, we achieved all-time records the fourth quarter, with adjusted EBITDA increasing to a margin of 26% and free cash flow more than doubling year-over-year to a margin of 22%. These results demonstrate our commitment to balanced growth and operational excellence. I'm incredibly proud of our team's execution, and with our strong positioning in AI-powered CX, we believe we're set up for continued success in 2026 and beyond. Turning now to our business updates, today I'd like to focus on three key topics. First, our large and growing market opportunity. Second, our differentiated position in AI-driven CX. Third, our strong partner momentum. We are in the early stages of a long-term transition in the CX industry, with multiple secular growth factors driving a significantly expanding addressable market for our platform.
Speaker #2: So, we have proof points to back up this thesis that AI is growing. It's happening fast, and it's happening both in our new logo as well as in the existing base.
As a reminder Gartner forecasts the market for traditional, ccas to grow at a 9% kegger and the Genai customer service Market to grow at a 34% kegger through 2029 to a combined annual spend of 48 billion.
Speaker #6: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thanks.
Speaker #1: OK, our next question comes from Ryan McWilliams of Wells Fargo. You can go ahead and unmute at this time.
We believe that both of these growth drivers, will create a powerful, Tailwind for 5'9 as we continue to execute against this durable. Multi-year opportunity.
Importantly, we believe 5'9 is well, positioned to lead in this new era of AI powered CX.
Speaker #3: Excellent. This one's for Mike. Mike, I mean, what a great run. And congrats. I mean, I just think back to probably 15 years ago when people said that the biggest contact centers in the world would never move to the cloud.
At the core of our advantages data, more specifically conversational data.
Speaker #3: Right? And now you guys have customers that are over 10,000 seats in some of the largest Fortune 50 companies that are out there. So, people have been wrong before.
Speaker #3: And the contact center industry, about what's coming next. I mean, as you kind of take a step back today, what do you think people are missing right now in terms of the contact center opportunity?
We capture every customer interaction across voice digital and AI driven channels. Therefore our platform remembers every conversation. Whether it was with the human agent or with an AI agent through voice or digital, this creates what we call a relationship-based experience where every engagement feels personal contextual and connected
Mike Burkland: As a reminder, Gartner forecasts the market for traditional CCaaS to grow at a 9% CAGR, and the GenAI customer service market to grow at a 34% CAGR through 2029 to a combined annual spend of $48 billion. We believe that both of these growth drivers will create a powerful tailwind for Five9 as we continue to execute against this durable multi-year opportunity. Importantly, we believe Five9 is well positioned to lead in this new era of AI-powered CX. At the core of our advantage is data, more specifically, conversational data. We capture every customer interaction across voice, digital, and AI-driven channels. Therefore, our platform remembers every conversation, whether it was with a human agent or with an AI agent through voice or digital. This creates what we call a relationship-based experience, where every engagement feels personal, contextual, and connected.
Mike Burkland: As a reminder, Gartner forecasts the market for traditional CCaaS to grow at a 9% CAGR, and the GenAI customer service market to grow at a 34% CAGR through 2029 to a combined annual spend of $48 billion. We believe that both of these growth drivers will create a powerful tailwind for Five9 as we continue to execute against this durable multi-year opportunity. Importantly, we believe Five9 is well positioned to lead in this new era of AI-powered CX. At the core of our advantage is data, more specifically, conversational data. We capture every customer interaction across voice, digital, and AI-driven channels. Therefore, our platform remembers every conversation, whether it was with a human agent or with an AI agent through voice or digital. This creates what we call a relationship-based experience, where every engagement feels personal, contextual, and connected.
Speaker #3: I know it feels like the seats are a question. And what are some of these interactions will be? But what do you think the contact center of five years from now means for 59?
Speaker #2: Yeah, well, thanks, Ryan. Appreciate the comments. And look, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, I remember when we went public in 2014, how everyone really just questioned whether or not large enterprises would shift to the cloud.
Our end end platform serves as a real-time orchestration engine for customer interactions, whether they're handled by a human agent or by an AI agent enabling seamless collaboration between the 2 each interaction, strengthens the next and this continuous learning Loop compounds. Over time, creating a powerful data flywheel that drives higher performance, accuracy and personalization
This is a significant advantage that only an end to end platform can deliver.
Our platform advantages are also driving significant momentum and product innovation.
Speaker #2: And obviously, we're 40% cloud today, 60% still are on-prem. And it's going to be a multi-year opportunity for us to continue that trend. But look, things have changed.
At our CX Summit in November. We announced a suite of new, AI, powered Solutions designed to help Enterprises Elevate their CX, including our aqm, which is a Next Generation, agentic quality management solution.
Speaker #2: The AI opportunity is massive. We've invested. We were early in this investment with our Inference acquisition. We've built a lot of capabilities on top of that.
Our AI powered genius routing engine.
Our 1 view, unified analytics and Reporting platform.
Mike Burkland: Our end-to-end platform serves as a real-time orchestration engine for customer interactions, whether handled by a human agent or by an AI agent, enabling seamless collaboration between the two. Each interaction strengthens the next, and this continuous learning loop compounds over time, creating a powerful data flywheel that drives higher performance, accuracy, and personalization… This is a significant advantage that only an end-to-end platform can deliver. Our platform advantages are also driving significant momentum in product innovation. At our CX Summit in November, we announced a suite of new AI-powered solutions designed to help enterprises elevate their CX, including our AQM, which is a next generation agentic quality management solution, our AI-powered Genius Routing Engine, our One View unified analytics and reporting platform, and our no-code adaptive digital engagement solution. These innovations showcase how Five9 continues to lead in AI-driven CX, and further strengthen the power of our end-to-end platform.
Mike Burkland: Our end-to-end platform serves as a real-time orchestration engine for customer interactions, whether handled by a human agent or by an AI agent, enabling seamless collaboration between the two. Each interaction strengthens the next, and this continuous learning loop compounds over time, creating a powerful data flywheel that drives higher performance, accuracy, and personalization… This is a significant advantage that only an end-to-end platform can deliver. Our platform advantages are also driving significant momentum in product innovation. At our CX Summit in November, we announced a suite of new AI-powered solutions designed to help enterprises elevate their CX, including our AQM, which is a next generation agentic quality management solution, our AI-powered Genius Routing Engine, our One View unified analytics and reporting platform, and our no-code adaptive digital engagement solution. These innovations showcase how Five9 continues to lead in AI-driven CX, and further strengthen the power of our end-to-end platform.
And our no code adaptive, digital engagement solution.
Speaker #2: And I think what I think what people are starting to realize—and I'm not sure, I think we're just at the very beginning of this realization, quite frankly, across the investor set, and across—I think our customers already see this.
Speaker #2: But I think the investor community is starting to learn that this end-to-end platform advantage that we have, and some other players have—think of, again, Five9 as the system of engagement or the system of interaction, the system of action as opposed to, say, a CRM system, which is kind of the system of record.
These Innovations showcase how 59 continues to lead in AI driven CX. And further strengthen the power of our end Dan platform. In addition to our product Innovations, we continue to double down on Partnerships as a key driver of differentiation in both our products and our go to market.
That's why we're excited about the expansion of our partnership with Google cloud and the launch of our joint Enterprise cxi solution, which we announced in January
Speaker #2: And I think it's important to understand that we're on the front lines. We're right there at the moment of truth with a customer and a brand.
Our CX and AI portfolio.
Speaker #2: And we haven't unfair advantage because of that. And providing both AI-driven solutions as well as solutions for the human agents in an orchestrated fashion that is our power, that is the power of our platform.
Our joint solution brings together. The 59 AI, infused intelligent CX platform and Google Cloud's Gemini for customer experience to deliver. Faster, time to Value seamless end-to-end orchestration across the customer journey and
our personalized interactions.
customers can move Beyond Pilots into
Speaker #2: And it results in, again, these personalized, contextual, and connected experiences that only a platform like Five9 can deliver. And I think that is what is showing up in the numbers.
Grounded in.
Customer context and built for Enterprise scale.
Mike Burkland: In addition to our product innovations, we continue to double down on partnerships as a key driver of differentiation in both our products and our go-to-market. That's why we're excited about the expansion of our partnership with Google Cloud and the launch of our joint enterprise CX AI solution, which we announced in January. We were an early adopter of Google's AI technology, and it continues to pay off for us by accelerating innovation across our CX and AI portfolio. Our joint solution brings together the Five9 AI-infused Intelligent CX Platform and Google Cloud's Gemini for customer experience, to deliver faster time to value, seamless end-to-end orchestration across the customer journey, and more personalized interactions. Customers can move beyond pilots and deploy AI and production faster, grounded in real customer context and built for enterprise scale.
Mike Burkland: In addition to our product innovations, we continue to double down on partnerships as a key driver of differentiation in both our products and our go-to-market. That's why we're excited about the expansion of our partnership with Google Cloud and the launch of our joint enterprise CX AI solution, which we announced in January. We were an early adopter of Google's AI technology, and it continues to pay off for us by accelerating innovation across our CX and AI portfolio. Our joint solution brings together the Five9 AI-infused Intelligent CX Platform and Google Cloud's Gemini for customer experience, to deliver faster time to value, seamless end-to-end orchestration across the customer journey, and more personalized interactions. Customers can move beyond pilots and deploy AI and production faster, grounded in real customer context and built for enterprise scale.
Speaker #2: But I think we're starting to talk more explicitly about those numbers, Ryan. And that is our core CCAS revenue growth accelerated from 7 to 8.
That's why we're already seeing strong traction with some of the largest brands in the world leaning in to the combined power of 59 and Google.
Speaker #2: And our AI revenue growth accelerated from 41 to 50. And that is the recipe for success. I'll stop there.
And before I turn it over to Andy. I want to thank our incredible team of 5, Niners, and dedication and commitment to Excellence throughout my tenure as CEO.
Speaker #6: You really want to trust the system to give you the right answer because it's not fun to be on the other side of a wrong answer.
Together. We built something truly special, as I transitioned the CEO role to Ahmed, I'm more excited than ever about 5 nights future.
Speaker #6: But thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Ryan. Appreciate it.
Speaker #1: All right, our next question comes from Terry Tillman of Twist. Terry, go ahead and unmute and ask your question.
Speaker #7: Hi, guys. It's Giancarlo on for Terry. I appreciate the question. Congrats on the strong quarter. I think you guys were talking about the strong adoption of the newer features that you rolled out.
We have a differentiated platform proven expertise, strong customer momentum and the right leadership to capitalize on the significant opportunity ahead.
and with that, I'll turn it over to our president, Andy dant to share more details on our go to market performance, Andy
Speaker #7: And I was just wondering, you know what sectors we're seeing the highest uptake for those features? And maybe you talk about what customers are kind of saying was their biggest pain point.
Thank you, Mike and congratulations on your well-earned retirement and Ahmed I look forward to working with you as we build on 59th strong Foundation.
Mike Burkland: That's why we're already seeing strong traction with some of the largest brands in the world, leaning in to the combined power of Five9 and Google. And before I turn it over to Andy, I want to thank our incredible team of Five9ers for your passion, dedication, and commitment to excellence throughout my tenure as CEO. Together, we've built something truly special. As I transition the CEO role to Amit, I'm more excited than ever about Five9's future. We have a differentiated platform, proven expertise, strong customer momentum, and the right leadership to capitalize on the significant opportunity ahead. And with that, I'll turn it over to our president, Andy Dignan, to share more details on our go-to-market performance. Andy?
Mike Burkland: That's why we're already seeing strong traction with some of the largest brands in the world, leaning in to the combined power of Five9 and Google. And before I turn it over to Andy, I want to thank our incredible team of Five9ers for your passion, dedication, and commitment to excellence throughout my tenure as CEO. Together, we've built something truly special. As I transition the CEO role to Amit, I'm more excited than ever about Five9's future. We have a differentiated platform, proven expertise, strong customer momentum, and the right leadership to capitalize on the significant opportunity ahead. And with that, I'll turn it over to our president, Andy Dignan, to share more details on our go-to-market performance. Andy?
Speaker #7: And how has that changed over the last few months? Thanks.
We were pleased to deliver an exceptional quarter of bookings. As Mike mentioned, total bookings represented a Q4 record.
Speaker #3: Yeah, Andy.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I can go ahead and take that one. So we're seeing a lot of success in health care and retail. We've talked to about a lot of expansion within our customer base.
Speaker #2: And so I think what really what we're seeing is customers wanting to take that next evolution from their CX strategy to AI and the challenges that most of them have historically seen is their data is not in a good spot, right?
Driven by Enterprise AI bookends more than doubling year-over-year and our install base bookings. Achieving another all-time high for the third consecutive quarter driven by ongoing strength and upsell and cross cell activities.
In addition to strong execution by our sales teams, a key driver of our success is our partner strategy.
Speaker #2: We've talked about this for a while. Your AI strategy is only good as your data strategy. And so we put a lot of effort into focusing on making sure that our customers understand where their data needs to be to go deliver on those use cases.
Partners expand our reach. They bring us into more Enterprise, buying motions and speed up, time to value for customers.
Speaker #2: And over time, as we've talked about, like the customer example today, a customer expanding their AI we proved that time and time again over the last couple of years.
59 has been partnered first for years, and today more than 80% of our business is partner influenced.
Speaker #2: And so now they're making their bets for 3 and 5-year renewals. Based on what we demonstrated. And our success and their confidence in us going into the future.
Andy Dignan: Thank you, Mike, and congratulations on your well-earned retirement. And Amit, I look forward to working with you as we build on Five9's strong foundation. We were pleased to deliver an exceptional quarter of bookings. As Mike mentioned, total bookings represented a Q4 record, driven by enterprise AI bookings more than doubling year-over-year, and our install base bookings achieving another all-time high for the third consecutive quarter, driven by ongoing strength in upsell and cross-sell activities. In addition to strong execution by our sales teams, a key driver of our success is our partner strategy. Partners expand our reach. They bring us into more enterprise buying motions and speed up time to value for customers. Five9 has been partner first for years, and today, more than 80% of our business is partner influenced. Our balanced route to market model is working.
Andy Dignan: Thank you, Mike, and congratulations on your well-earned retirement. And Amit, I look forward to working with you as we build on Five9's strong foundation. We were pleased to deliver an exceptional quarter of bookings. As Mike mentioned, total bookings represented a Q4 record, driven by enterprise AI bookings more than doubling year-over-year, and our install base bookings achieving another all-time high for the third consecutive quarter, driven by ongoing strength in upsell and cross-sell activities. In addition to strong execution by our sales teams, a key driver of our success is our partner strategy. Partners expand our reach. They bring us into more enterprise buying motions and speed up time to value for customers. Five9 has been partner first for years, and today, more than 80% of our business is partner influenced. Our balanced route to market model is working.
Our balance route to Market model is working, partners are leading complex Transformations, accelerating AI adoption and delivering outcomes faster than ever.
Speaker #1: Got it. Makes sense, guys. Thank you. OK, our next question comes from Katherine Trepnick of Rosenblatt. Katherine, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question now.
In 2025, 59 doubled, year-over-year the number of Partners certified to implement 59 Services. Showing just how mature and essential our ecosystem has become.
Speaker #8: Thank you. Congratulations, Mike. And Amit and back to the AI question. So what percentage of your enterprise base is adopting the AI, especially looking at AI agents, assistants, genius routing?
Building on Mike's comments about the multiple secular growth vectors expanding our Market. We're seeing customers, lean into both sides of that transition at once.
Speaker #8: What I'm trying to really understand is what's the runway going forward for enterprise adoption? Thanks.
Modernizing on the ccas while accelerating adoption of AI. The first example is a global power management company with over 85,000 employees that selected 59 to modernize from an on-prem platform to a Cass Foundation.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I'm happy to start. Hello, Katherine. Look, I think it's early days in terms of kind of end-to-end full penetration within our base. Almost every single one of our customers is obviously every enterprise in the world is looking at AI and making AI decisions.
They chose us based on our native Integrations with Salesforce and service now and our AI agent and agent assist capabilities to improve cell service and drive higher agent productivity.
Andy Dignan: Partners are leading complex transformations, accelerating AI adoption, and delivering outcomes faster than ever. In 2025, Five9 doubled year-over-year the number of partners certified to implement Five9 services, showing just how mature and essential our ecosystem has become. Building on Mike's comments about the multiple secular growth vectors expanding our market, we're seeing customers lean into both sides of that transition at once, modernizing onto CCaaS while accelerating adoption of AI. The first example is a global power management company with over 85,000 employees that selected Five9 to modernize from an on-prem platform to a CCaaS foundation. They chose us based on our native integrations with Salesforce and ServiceNow, and our AI agents and Agent Assist capabilities to improve self-service and drive higher agent productivity. We expect this initial order to result in approximately $2.8 million in ARR.
Andy Dignan: Partners are leading complex transformations, accelerating AI adoption, and delivering outcomes faster than ever. In 2025, Five9 doubled year-over-year the number of partners certified to implement Five9 services, showing just how mature and essential our ecosystem has become. Building on Mike's comments about the multiple secular growth vectors expanding our market, we're seeing customers lean into both sides of that transition at once, modernizing onto CCaaS while accelerating adoption of AI. The first example is a global power management company with over 85,000 employees that selected Five9 to modernize from an on-prem platform to a CCaaS foundation. They chose us based on our native integrations with Salesforce and ServiceNow, and our AI agents and Agent Assist capabilities to improve self-service and drive higher agent productivity. We expect this initial order to result in approximately $2.8 million in ARR.
We expect this initial order to result in approximately 2.8 million in ARR.
Speaker #2: But it's early in terms of the rollout in a lot of these cases. And again, I talked about our end-to-end platform a lot. And the fact that our customers are rolling out our AI and our CCAS in production environments not just in proof of concepts, not just in slick demos, but in real production environments.
Another example is a Life Health and financial services provider that shows 59 to move from on-prem to cloud and improve work performance.
They selected 59 for our tight integration with their Healthcare CRM and our comprehensive Suite of AI Solutions.
We expect this initial order to result in approximately 1.1 million in ARR.
Speaker #2: And but it's still early days. And this opportunity as I talked about, we've crossed 100 million in ARR and AI. But we're just getting started.
The third example is a Hospitality technology company migrating off of a cloud competitor. They chose 59 for our open platform approach which allows deep integration with their Hospitality platform their Core Business.
Speaker #8: OK, thank you.
Speaker #1: OK, our next question comes from Peter Levine of Evercore. Peter, you can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
They view this integration as a differentiator for their customers including some of the highest end Hospitality brands in the world.
Speaker #6: Thank you, guys. Mike. Best of luck. And Amit, welcome aboard. Maybe how do you think about the risk that the LLM-native platforms bypass the traditional CCAS architecture entirely, right?
They also chose 59 because of our joint partnership with Google Cloud to accelerate AI driven CX. We expect this initial order to result in approximately 3.4 million in ARR.
Andy Dignan: Another example is a life, health, and financial services provider that chose Five9 to move from on-prem to cloud and improve workforce performance. They selected Five9 for our tight integration with their healthcare CRM and our comprehensive suite of AI solutions. We expect this initial order to result in approximately $1.1 million in ARR. The third example is a hospitality technology company migrating off of a cloud competitor. They chose Five9 for our open platform approach, which allows deep integration with their hospitality platform, their core business. They view this integration as a differentiator for their customers, including some of the highest-end hospitality brands in the world. They also chose Five9 because of our joint partnership with Google Cloud to accelerate AI-driven CX. We expect this initial order to result in approximately $3.4 million in ARR.
Andy Dignan: Another example is a life, health, and financial services provider that chose Five9 to move from on-prem to cloud and improve workforce performance. They selected Five9 for our tight integration with their healthcare CRM and our comprehensive suite of AI solutions. We expect this initial order to result in approximately $1.1 million in ARR. The third example is a hospitality technology company migrating off of a cloud competitor. They chose Five9 for our open platform approach, which allows deep integration with their hospitality platform, their core business. They view this integration as a differentiator for their customers, including some of the highest-end hospitality brands in the world. They also chose Five9 because of our joint partnership with Google Cloud to accelerate AI-driven CX. We expect this initial order to result in approximately $3.4 million in ARR.
Speaker #6: In what scenario does an enterprise build their own AI agent directly on top of an OpenAI and Anthropic, right? And I guess the question is, what core functionality does 59 provide that can't be replicated?
In addition to customers choosing us as their core CX solution, we continue to see our customers, expand their use of 59, AI capabilities and make long-term commitments to 59 as their CX. AI provider.
Speaker #6: Meaning, what's the hardest to kind of disintermediate from you guys? Is it the workflow, the infrastructure, the compliance, the data? Help us think through the risk that these platforms are going to come in overnight and replace you guys.
1 example is a healthcare provider that expanded their 59 commitment from approximately 6 million to over 10 million in ARR.
Along with the 3-year commitment.
Speaker #2: Yeah, very good question, Peter. And I'll start. And you guys feel free to chime in. Again, we talk about our platform advantages mainly the data advantages, number one.
They are doubling down on AI with a clear focus on leveraging, AI agents to drive, meaningful cost savings across the business. Looking ahead. We remain encouraged by the momentum of our business fueled by Pipeline and RFP activities sustaining elevated levels.
Speaker #2: And it's conversational data. And it's historical and real-time conversational data. It's also this orchestration capability across all channels and across any backend, whether it's AI on the backend handling this interaction or whether it's a human agent being able to orchestrate across this entire interaction set is of absolute competitive moat.
Brian.
Thank you, Andy. Before I dive into his financials. I want to thank you Mike for your exceptional leadership and incredible partnership over the years.
Andy Dignan: In addition to customers choosing us as their core CX solution, we continue to see our customers expand their use of Five9's AI capabilities and make long-term commitments to Five9 as their CX AI provider. One example is a healthcare provider that expanded their Five9 commitment from approximately $6 million to over $10 million in ARR, along with a three-year commitment. They are doubling down on AI with a clear focus on leveraging AI agents to drive meaningful cost savings across the business. Looking ahead, we remain encouraged by the momentum of our business, fueled by pipeline and RFP activities, sustaining elevated levels. And with that, I'll turn it over to Bryan to take you through the financials. Bryan?
Andy Dignan: In addition to customers choosing us as their core CX solution, we continue to see our customers expand their use of Five9's AI capabilities and make long-term commitments to Five9 as their CX AI provider. One example is a healthcare provider that expanded their Five9 commitment from approximately $6 million to over $10 million in ARR, along with a three-year commitment. They are doubling down on AI with a clear focus on leveraging AI agents to drive meaningful cost savings across the business. Looking ahead, we remain encouraged by the momentum of our business, fueled by pipeline and RFP activities, sustaining elevated levels. And with that, I'll turn it over to Bryan to take you through the financials. Bryan?
Your vision and execution of position the company. Well, for the future.
And welcome aboard. I'm excited to work with you as we advance 59 to the next chapter.
Speaker #2: And look, we're going to continue to have advancements by LLMs. But I've said this even two years ago—you cannot run a customer service organization on an LLM.
Now, turning to our financial performance for the fourth quarter, we're pleased to report strong Q4 results with total revenue coming in at million dollars. Representing 8% growth year-over-year,
Speaker #2: LLMs are a foundational technology that we're all leveraging to deliver applications—solutions for customer experience. And the bar is set. The bar is always going to be, there's an orchestration capability of these on-premise solutions that we replace.
Growth accelerated to 12% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, primarily driven by first Enterprise AI Revenue, growth accelerating to 50% year-over-year. Now making up 12% of Enterprise subscription Revenue.
Second Corey cast, growth accelerating to 8% year-over-year.
Speaker #2: They're supporting thousands of human agents. And now thousands of AI agents in the future. And that orchestration capability is really isolated to these end-to-end platforms like 59.
Bryan Lee: ... Thank you, Andy. Before I dive into the financials, I want to thank you, Mike, for your exceptional leadership and incredible partnership over the years. Your vision and execution has positioned the company well for the future. And, Amit, welcome aboard. I'm excited to work with you as we advance Five9 to the next chapter. Now turning to our financial performance for the fourth quarter. We're pleased to report strong Q4 results, with total revenue coming in at $300 million, representing 8% growth year-over-year. Subscription revenue growth accelerated to 12% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, primarily driven by, first, enterprise AI revenue growth accelerating to 50% year-over-year, now making up 12% of enterprise subscription revenue. Second, core CCaaS growth accelerating to 8% year-over-year.
Bryan Lee: ... Thank you, Andy. Before I dive into the financials, I want to thank you, Mike, for your exceptional leadership and incredible partnership over the years. Your vision and execution has positioned the company well for the future. And, Amit, welcome aboard. I'm excited to work with you as we advance Five9 to the next chapter. Now turning to our financial performance for the fourth quarter. We're pleased to report strong Q4 results, with total revenue coming in at $300 million, representing 8% growth year-over-year. Subscription revenue growth accelerated to 12% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, primarily driven by, first, enterprise AI revenue growth accelerating to 50% year-over-year, now making up 12% of enterprise subscription revenue. Second, core CCaaS growth accelerating to 8% year-over-year.
And third continued momentum Market where 228 of our million. Plus our customers grew subscription Revenue, 24% year-over-year. Now making up 59% of subscription Revenue.
Speaker #6: Maybe, Brian, can you just help us understand the 100 million in AI revenue? What percentage of that is seat-based usage-based? Just help us understand what makes up that 100 million.
Additionally, our concurrency, count continued to grow at a healthy rate. Both quarter recorder and year-over-year relatively in line with our core ccass Revenue growth.
Speaker #2: Yeah, so our 100 million dollars of enterprise AI revenue is all consumption or capacity-based. So the way it works is that we charge for a block of committed units, whether that's minutes or gigabytes or whatever it may be.
subscription Revenue represented, 82% of total revenue, upfront 79% a year ago and we expect this mix shift to continue as we focus on high margins, subscription Revenue increasing lead led by our AI Solutions
Speaker #2: And then anything above that would be overage. So it is absolutely consumption-based. And yeah, and gaining a lot of traction there.
Telecom usage represented, 11% of Revenue and Professional Services made up the remaining 7%.
Speaker #6: Thank you, guys.
Speaker #1: OK, our next question comes from Samad Samana from Jefferies. Samad, you can go ahead and unmute at this time.
With regard to seasonality as expected, the sequential uptick in our consumer and Healthcare verticals. In Q4 was meaningfully less than last year for Telecom usage.
Bryan Lee: And third, continued momentum market, where 228 of our million-plus AI customers grew subscription revenue 24% year-over-year, now making up 59% of subscription revenue. Additionally, our concurrent seat count continued to grow at a healthy rate, both quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year, relatively in line with our core CCaaS revenue growth. Subscription revenue represented 82% of total revenue, up from 79% a year ago. We expect this mix shift to continue as we focus on high-margin subscription revenue, increasingly led by our AI solutions. Telecom usage represented 11% of revenue, and professional services made up the remaining 7%. With regard to seasonality, as expected, the sequential uptick in our consumer and healthcare verticals in Q4 was meaningfully less than last year for telecom usage.
Bryan Lee: And third, continued momentum market, where 228 of our million-plus AI customers grew subscription revenue 24% year-over-year, now making up 59% of subscription revenue. Additionally, our concurrent seat count continued to grow at a healthy rate, both quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year, relatively in line with our core CCaaS revenue growth. Subscription revenue represented 82% of total revenue, up from 79% a year ago. We expect this mix shift to continue as we focus on high-margin subscription revenue, increasingly led by our AI solutions. Telecom usage represented 11% of revenue, and professional services made up the remaining 7%. With regard to seasonality, as expected, the sequential uptick in our consumer and healthcare verticals in Q4 was meaningfully less than last year for telecom usage.
Speaker #3: Hi, good evening. I'll echo the words of my peers. So congrats, Mike. And great to be working with you, Amit. Just I guess a question Brian as I think about the guidance and how you're thinking about the kind of the first half versus the second half, how much of that is influenced by the timing of either large logos that were still in the backlog, whether so let's call it the large pharmaceutical company or the large logistics company being fully live versus how much of that is AI revenue ramping?
For subscription Revenue. Sequential growth was better than anticipated but still less than Q4 last year.
Our Enterprise business represented, approximately 91% of total revenue on an LTM basis within this category. The LTM Enterprise subscription Revenue, grew 15% year-over-year,
Percent. As a reminder, this part of our business underperformed in Q3, but the immediate actions we implemented, drove, favorable results. In Q4 and we expect LTM year over year growth to return to normal historical levels. Next quarter.
Speaker #3: And have you made any adjustment to the guidance algorithm to account for maybe the change in revenue being more consumption-based versus seat-based? So just help us understand kind of the guidance mechanics.
With regard to our dollar-based retention rate. Our spot rate increased sequentially while the LTM rate, stepped down from 107% in Q3 to 105% in Q4 as anticipated.
Speaker #2: Yeah, absolutely. So if you think about Q4 revenue, we're guiding to a midpoint of $1.254 billion. So that essentially, for the year, implies incremental revenue of $105 million.
this is primarily due to tough Compares as Q4 24 benefited from strong seasonality, and our largest customer completing its multi-year ramp
Bryan Lee: For subscription revenue, sequential growth was better than anticipated, but still less than Q4 of last year. Our enterprise business represented approximately 91% of total revenue on an LTM basis. Within this category, LTM enterprise subscription revenue grew 15% year over year. Our commercial business represented the remaining 9%. As a reminder, this part of our business underperformed in Q3, but the immediate actions we implemented drove favorable results in Q4, and we expect LTM year over year growth to return to normal historical levels next quarter. With regard to our dollar-based retention rate, our spot rate increased sequentially, while the LTM rate stepped down from 107% in Q3 to 105% in Q4, as anticipated. This is primarily due to tough compares, as Q4 2024 benefited from strong seasonality and our largest customer completing its multiyear ramp.
Bryan Lee: For subscription revenue, sequential growth was better than anticipated, but still less than Q4 of last year. Our enterprise business represented approximately 91% of total revenue on an LTM basis. Within this category, LTM enterprise subscription revenue grew 15% year over year. Our commercial business represented the remaining 9%. As a reminder, this part of our business underperformed in Q3, but the immediate actions we implemented drove favorable results in Q4, and we expect LTM year over year growth to return to normal historical levels next quarter. With regard to our dollar-based retention rate, our spot rate increased sequentially, while the LTM rate stepped down from 107% in Q3 to 105% in Q4, as anticipated. This is primarily due to tough compares, as Q4 2024 benefited from strong seasonality and our largest customer completing its multiyear ramp.
Speaker #2: So I'll kind of talk about that in the form of contributions from DBRR versus backlog versus new logo go-gets for the year. So if you look at DBRR first, the LTM rate we exited 2025 at 105%.
In 2026, we expect LTM dbr to remain range bound within a small band in the first half and inflect upward in the second half.
Turning now to profitability.
Q4 adjusted gross, margin was 63% down by approximately 40 basis points year-over-year.
Speaker #2: And we expect that to stabilize in the first half, with minor fluctuations in either direction. But then inflect in the second half, right? And that alone makes up about two-thirds of that $105 million of incremental revenue.
By lower growth margins. In Telecom, usage and PS.
Speaker #2: So the remaining third is actually fully covered by the backlog that we have. And so essentially, there's—and that has contingencies built in as well.
Adjusted. Even thumb margin increased by approximately 260 basis points year-over-year to 26%. As we continue to focus on disciplined expense management,
Additionally, we continue to boost productivity as demonstrated by our Revenue per employee increasing 14% year-over-year.
Speaker #2: So, there's essentially no dependencies on the new logo go-gets for the year. And the backlog, as you said, is combined with both new logo bookings that we've already won, as well as install-based bookings that we've won that have ramp associated with it.
For gaap EPS was 23 cents, per diluted share.
The representing 5 consecutive quarters of positive Gap earnings. While a
Speaker #2: And those are turning into revenue throughout the year. We have great visibility into those. But every single customer in that backlog has a unique schedule of ramp.
Bryan Lee: In 2026, we expect LTM DBRR to remain range-bound within a small band in the first half and then flex upward in the second half. Turning now to profitability. Q4 adjusted gross margin was 63%, down by approximately 40 basis points year-over-year, primarily driven by lower gross margins in telecom usage and PS. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased by approximately 260 basis points year-over-year to 26% as we continue to focus on disciplined expense management. Additionally, we continue to boost productivity, as demonstrated by our revenue per employee, increasing 14% year-over-year. Q4 GAAP EPS was $0.23 per diluted share, representing five consecutive quarters of positive GAAP earnings, while non-GAAP EPS came in at $0.80 per diluted share. In terms of cash flow, we generated $84 million, or 28% of revenue, in operating cash flow.
Bryan Lee: In 2026, we expect LTM DBRR to remain range-bound within a small band in the first half and then flex upward in the second half. Turning now to profitability. Q4 adjusted gross margin was 63%, down by approximately 40 basis points year-over-year, primarily driven by lower gross margins in telecom usage and PS. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased by approximately 260 basis points year-over-year to 26% as we continue to focus on disciplined expense management. Additionally, we continue to boost productivity, as demonstrated by our revenue per employee, increasing 14% year-over-year. Q4 GAAP EPS was $0.23 per diluted share, representing five consecutive quarters of positive GAAP earnings, while non-GAAP EPS came in at $0.80 per diluted share. In terms of cash flow, we generated $84 million, or 28% of revenue, in operating cash flow.
in terms of cash flow, we generated 84 million or 28% of Revenue and operating cash flow.
Speaker #2: And it's this year happens to be much more backend loaded, which is why there's that acceleration to double-digit growth in the back half of the year.
Additionally, we generate a free cash, flow of 67 million or 22% of Revenue, which represented over 10 percentage points of margin Improvement, year-over-year.
Speaker #2: And if you think about consumption versus seat-based, so our AI portfolio is all consumption or capacity-based, as I talked about earlier. And that's going to continue to be a significant driver of growth throughout the year.
As a result, we ended the quarter with total cash and Investments of 697 million.
and now, for a closer look at Key 4 year, 2025 income statement metrics,
Speaker #2: It's got Eventflow, as I mentioned earlier, that will be the fastest growing part of our portfolio.
Speaker #3: And then maybe just a follow-up on the AI revenue—the $100 million for enterprise AI revenue is very impressive. Can you just maybe help us understand how much of that is maybe allocated toward, let's call it, next-gen solutions that you guys have rolled out in maybe the last 12 to 18 months versus maybe what was foundationally from an inference or something that you had kind of in a prior period, just to help understand where the momentum is inside of the portfolio?
2025 total revenue came in at 1.15 billion growing 10% year-over-year with subscription Revenue. Growing 13% year-over-year.
growth margin expanded by approximately 110 basis points year-over-year to 63% while 2025 adjusted even thumb, margin expanded by approximately 470 basis points to 23%,
Speaker #3: Thank you again for taking my questions.
Bryan Lee: Additionally, we generated free cash flow of $67 million, or 22% of revenue, which represented over 10 percentage points of margin improvement year over year. As a result, we ended the quarter with total cash and investments of $697 million. Now for a closer look at key full year 2025 income statement metrics. 2025 total revenue came in at $1.15 billion, growing 10% year over year, with subscription revenue growing 13% year over year. 2025 adjusted gross margin expanded by approximately 110 basis points year over year to 63%, while 2025 adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by approximately 470 basis points to 23%.
Bryan Lee: Additionally, we generated free cash flow of $67 million, or 22% of revenue, which represented over 10 percentage points of margin improvement year over year. As a result, we ended the quarter with total cash and investments of $697 million. Now for a closer look at key full year 2025 income statement metrics. 2025 total revenue came in at $1.15 billion, growing 10% year over year, with subscription revenue growing 13% year over year. 2025 adjusted gross margin expanded by approximately 110 basis points year over year to 63%, while 2025 adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by approximately 470 basis points to 23%.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I'm happy to start. And then others can chime in. So if you look at the composition of our AI revenue, the two biggest ones are our AI agents, as well as Agent Assist.
2025, gaap EPS was positive for the first time on an annual basis at 45 cents per diluted share. While a non-gaap EPS came in at $2.96 for diluted share,
Speaker #2: And then followed by workflow automation and a lot of other smaller products that are growing very fast, but still very small in nature. So, an AI agent, of course—we're getting significant traction in terms of Gen AI-based solutions, as well as agent assist that's using Gen AI as well.
now, turning to our full year 2026 and first quarter guidance,
For 2026 Revenue. We're initiating our guidance at a midpoint of 1.254 billion which is in line with the high-level Outlook. We provided last quarter.
Speaker #2: So we haven't given the exact mix. But of course, there's really strong momentum and acceleration that is happening across the board.
For q1 Revenue regarding to a midpoint of 299.5 million which is also consistent with the high-level Outlook of relatively flat sequential change. We shared last quarter,
Speaker #1: All right, our next question will come from DJ Hines of Canocord. DJ, you could go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
In terms of quarterly progression, we expect you to revenue to increase slightly quarter record recorder, followed by momentum building further, throughout the year.
Speaker #2: Awesome. Hey, guys. Well-deserved, Mike. We'll miss you on these calls. But I know clearly you still have an impact on the business from the chairman seat.
Bryan Lee: 2025 GAAP EPS was positive for the first time on an annual basis at $0.45 per diluted share, while non-GAAP EPS came in at $2.96 per diluted share. 2025 operating cash flow finished at $226 million, and free cash flow came in at $162 million. Now turning to our full year 2026 and first quarter guidance. For 2026 revenue, we're initiating our guidance at a midpoint of $1.254 billion, which is in line with the high-level outlook we provided last quarter. For Q1 revenue, we're guiding to a midpoint of $299.5 million, which is also consistent with the high-level outlook of relatively flat sequential change we shared last quarter.
Bryan Lee: 2025 GAAP EPS was positive for the first time on an annual basis at $0.45 per diluted share, while non-GAAP EPS came in at $2.96 per diluted share. 2025 operating cash flow finished at $226 million, and free cash flow came in at $162 million. Now turning to our full year 2026 and first quarter guidance. For 2026 revenue, we're initiating our guidance at a midpoint of $1.254 billion, which is in line with the high-level outlook we provided last quarter. For Q1 revenue, we're guiding to a midpoint of $299.5 million, which is also consistent with the high-level outlook of relatively flat sequential change we shared last quarter.
Speaker #2: So look forward to that. Amit, good to see you again. Look forward to working with you I got two questions. Brian, I'm going to start with you.
As a result, we continue to expect Revenue to return to double digit growth. In the second half of 2026 driven by our strong backlog of both new logo and install based bookings.
Speaker #2: The AI revenue growth acceleration, I suspect that's just a function of what we talked about last quarter, right? That lag between bookings to kind of when it hits the P&L.
With regard to the bottom line, we're guiding 2026 non-gi, PS to a midpoint of 3.18 cents per diluted share, Which is higher than the high level Outlook of $3.14 for diluted share that we provided during our last earnings call.
Speaker #2: And if that's right, I mean, AI bookings have been growing quite a bit faster, right? I think 80% last quarter, 100% this quarter. That tells me AI revenue growth should continue to accelerate.
We're also guiding to continued gap. Profitability of 2026 with a midpoint of 91 cents per diluted, share for gaap eps.
Speaker #2: So is that A, is that correct? And then the second question, I don't know if it's for you, Mike, or Andy, but just talk a little bit more about the Google partnership, right?
For q1 non gab EPS were guiding to a midpoint of 68 cents which reflects a typical sequential decline in the first quarter of the year.
Speaker #2: What that could mean for the business. What are they using from you? What role does Gemini play in that? Just how do the pieces fit together and what it could mean?
Bryan Lee: In terms of quarterly progression, we expect Q2 revenue to increase slightly quarter-over-quarter, followed by momentum building further throughout the year. As a result, we continue to expect revenue to return to double-digit growth in the second half of 2026, driven by our strong backlog of both new logos and install-based bookings. With regard to the bottom line, we're guiding 2026 non-GAAP EPS to a midpoint of $3.18 per diluted share, which is higher than the high level outlook of $3.14 per diluted share that we provided during our last earnings call. We're also guiding to continued GAAP profitability in 2026, with a midpoint of $0.91 per diluted share for GAAP EPS. For Q1 non-GAAP EPS, we're guiding to a midpoint of $0.68, which reflects a typical sequential decline in the first quarter of the year.
Bryan Lee: In terms of quarterly progression, we expect Q2 revenue to increase slightly quarter-over-quarter, followed by momentum building further throughout the year. As a result, we continue to expect revenue to return to double-digit growth in the second half of 2026, driven by our strong backlog of both new logos and install-based bookings. With regard to the bottom line, we're guiding 2026 non-GAAP EPS to a midpoint of $3.18 per diluted share, which is higher than the high level outlook of $3.14 per diluted share that we provided during our last earnings call. We're also guiding to continued GAAP profitability in 2026, with a midpoint of $0.91 per diluted share for GAAP EPS. For Q1 non-GAAP EPS, we're guiding to a midpoint of $0.68, which reflects a typical sequential decline in the first quarter of the year.
As for the remainder of the year, we expect relatively flat sequential move in the second quarter and large improvements in the second half.
Speaker #3: Yeah, so I'll start, DJ. So thanks for the question. So yes, you're exactly right. We've been talking about enterprise AI bookings growing either 80%+ for the last three quarters.
Speaker #3: And we said if we string together multiple quarters like that, we'll start to see the acceleration happen. And we are starting to see that in Q4, where it accelerated from 41% to 50%.
Also, for other key profitability metrics, we expect at least 24% in annual adjusted e, with the margin and approximately 175 million in annual, free cash flow. Additionally, we plan to help host an investor day in late 2026 where we will provide additional details on our strategic priorities and long-term Financial Outlook
Speaker #3: Now, going forward, as I mentioned earlier, there will be ebbs and flows. But we do anticipate that if we can continue that momentum on the booking side, they sit in backlog for a little bit, and then they start converting into revenue.
We look forward to sharing more with you at that time.
Speaker #3: And that's what's baked into our guidance. And the acceleration that we're seeing in the back half of 2026 is driven by not just AI, though, also by, of course, CCaaS in our backlog that's converting to revenue as well.
Finally, on our share repurchase program, we completed a fifty million dollar accelerated share, repurchase on February 2nd, buying back, approximately 2.6 million shares,
We have a hundred million dollars remaining under our authorization through December 2027.
Speaker #3: So we're seeing momentum on both sides.
this reflects our strong cash, generation, and confidence in 5, nice value, creation opportunity,
Speaker #2: And I'll start on Google and Andy. Please chime in and just give you one high-level comment. DJ, thanks for the comments too. Look, it's been a pleasure.
Bryan Lee: As for the remainder of the year, we expect relatively flat sequential move in the second quarter, and large improvements in the second half. Also, for other key profitability metrics, we expect at least 24% in annual adjusted EBITDA margin and approximately $175 million in annual free cash flow. Additionally, we plan to host an investor day in late 2026, where we will provide additional details on our strategic priorities and long-term financial outlook. We look forward to sharing more with you at that time. Finally, on our share repurchase program, we completed a $50 million accelerated share repurchase on 2 February, buying back approximately 2.6 million shares. We have $100 million remaining under our authorization through December 2027. This reflects our strong cash generation and confidence in Five9's value creation opportunity.
Bryan Lee: As for the remainder of the year, we expect relatively flat sequential move in the second quarter, and large improvements in the second half. Also, for other key profitability metrics, we expect at least 24% in annual adjusted EBITDA margin and approximately $175 million in annual free cash flow. Additionally, we plan to host an investor day in late 2026, where we will provide additional details on our strategic priorities and long-term financial outlook. We look forward to sharing more with you at that time. Finally, on our share repurchase program, we completed a $50 million accelerated share repurchase on 2 February, buying back approximately 2.6 million shares. We have $100 million remaining under our authorization through December 2027. This reflects our strong cash generation and confidence in Five9's value creation opportunity.
Speaker #2: Working with you and the rest of the analyst community. Look, the Google partnership, in my opinion, is something very significant for Five9. And what I love about the partnership is it was born out of success that we were having together in the market with large enterprises.
In closing 2025 was a transformational year for 59, we delivered strong financial performance, expanded our AI capabilities and strengthened our strategic Partnerships. And we believe we have positioned the company well for sustained profitable growth.
With Amit now, leading the team, we're energized about our opportunities ahead and committed to executing our strategy to deliver long-term shareholder value.
Speaker #2: And it was more than just an alignment on paper. This was driven, as I said, by the success in the market that we're having with them.
And with that operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #2: And that's the, in my opinion at least, those are the kind of partnerships that really flourish in the long run. So, Andy, feel free to.
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Speaker #3: If I look at the technical side of it, the solution, I mean, this is real joint solution. This is hands-on keyboards. Engineers at Google and Five9 building this joint solution together.
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Speaker #3: We've already had, to Mike's point, success. And we look at the opportunity that filling the pipeline from this coming together is really, really strong.
Bryan Lee: In closing, 2025 was a transformational year for Five9. We delivered strong financial performance, expanded our AI capabilities, and strengthened our strategic partnerships, and we believe we have positioned the company well for sustained, profitable growth. With Amit now leading the team, we're energized about our opportunities ahead and committed to executing our strategy to deliver long-term shareholder value. And with that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Bryan Lee: In closing, 2025 was a transformational year for Five9. We delivered strong financial performance, expanded our AI capabilities, and strengthened our strategic partnerships, and we believe we have positioned the company well for sustained, profitable growth. With Amit now leading the team, we're energized about our opportunities ahead and committed to executing our strategy to deliver long-term shareholder value. And with that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #3: And so you're going to obviously, it's going to be our CCAS environment. We've been leveraging the Google and Gemini applications and foundational models to build our own AI products.
Speaker #3: And so we're going to continue to build out what that joint solution looks like together.
Hey guys, this is Damon opero. Thanks for the question. Uh, congrats on your retirement, Mike. Um, and congrats Amit well as well for the new role. Uh, great to hear the continued strength with the AI portfolio. Uh, reaching 100 million ARR accelerating 50% year-over-year. Can you help us understand some of the breakdown between what is Greenfield? And then what is it? What is within your existing customer base? And then what is factored in to the 2566 guy just from that portfolio.
Speaker #2: Excellent. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Will Power of Baird. Will, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks. This is Yani Samolosan from Will Power. And I'll echo the congratulations. To Mike and Amit, and I'd love to hear a little bit about what you're seeing across the different verticals that you serve.
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Speaker #4: If you could just discuss if any are the strengthening more than others, or if there are any that you expect to help power that second-half acceleration more than others.
Thank you. I'll start and Brian feel free to chime in, but look, I do, uh, this is a combination of us having a lot of success with new logo, uh, attached to Ai, and also penetration into our install base. Um, I don't think we Quantified the breakdown between the 2, but I can tell you both are growing at a significant rate, very strong, right? Yeah. And if you think about the 2026 Revenue guidance, um, we've kind of given you the shape of the curve, uh, on a total revenue basis. And this is the first time we've
Dan Ives: Hey, guys, this is Dan McGoghon for Raimo. Thanks for taking the question. Congrats on your retirement, Mike. And congrats, Amit, well, as well for the new role. Great to hear the continued strength with the AI portfolio, reaching $100 million ARR, accelerating 50% year-over-year. Can you help us understand some of the breakdown between what is greenfield, and then what is it, what is within your existing customer base, and then what is factored into the 2026 guide just from that portfolio? Thank you.
Dan Ives: Hey, guys, this is Dan McGoghon for Raimo. Thanks for taking the question. Congrats on your retirement, Mike. And congrats, Amit, well, as well for the new role. Great to hear the continued strength with the AI portfolio, reaching $100 million ARR, accelerating 50% year-over-year. Can you help us understand some of the breakdown between what is greenfield, and then what is it, what is within your existing customer base, and then what is factored into the 2026 guide just from that portfolio? Thank you.
Speaker #4: And in particular, for some of your bigger verticals, like your healthcare vertical or maybe consumer, it'd be great to get an update on what you're seeing.
Speaker #4: And then, what you're factoring into the guide for 2026.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Yani, so thanks for the question. And seasonality, if you look at our Consumer and Healthcare vertical in Q4—which are the two seasonally strongest ones, typically—now, if you recall, we mentioned that we were expecting minimal seasonal uptick in Q4.
Giving you the breakout and growth rates between Enterprise AI, as well as, uh, core ccas, so core. Ccas obviously, that's a big portion today, um, and that's going to follow the shape of the curve for the total revenue guide, which means that if you back into the Enterprise AI, it's going to still be growing at a very, very fast clip, but it'll have and flow through the quarter, but it's still going to be the fastest, part of our, uh, portfolio.
Got it. Thanks guys. Thank you.
Speaker #2: In reality, what happened was the uptick was a little bit more favorable than what we were anticipating. But still weaker, if you compare to Q4 of '24.
Mike Burkland: I'll start, and Brian, feel free to chime in, but look, this is a combination of us having a lot of success with new logo attach of AI, and also penetration into our installed base. I don't think we quantified the breakdown between the two, but I can tell you both are growing at a significant rate. Very strong, right?
Mike Burkland: I'll start, and Brian, feel free to chime in, but look, this is a combination of us having a lot of success with new logo attach of AI, and also penetration into our installed base. I don't think we quantified the breakdown between the two, but I can tell you both are growing at a significant rate. Very strong, right?
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Speaker #2: And if you break that down between subscription and telecom usage revenue, the usage portion, telecom usage portion, was much weaker than last year, which is why, as a percent of revenue, you saw a step down by 1 percentage points quarter to quarter versus relying back to Q4 '24, it actually stepped up as a percent of revenue, right?
Great, uh, uh, Mike. Uh, it was great working with you and wish you good luck for your next phase and Amit congratulations and look forward to working with you here. Um, thank you.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, and if you think about the 2026 revenue guidance, we've kind of given you the shape of the curve, on a total revenue basis. And this is the first time we've given you the breakout and growth rates between enterprise AI, as well as core CCaaS. So core CCaaS, obviously, that's a big portion today, and that's gonna follow the shape of the curve for the total revenue guide, which means that if you back into the enterprise AI, it's gonna still be growing at a very, very fast clip, but it'll ebb and flow through the quarters, but it's still gonna be the fastest part of our portfolio.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, and if you think about the 2026 revenue guidance, we've kind of given you the shape of the curve, on a total revenue basis. And this is the first time we've given you the breakout and growth rates between enterprise AI, as well as core CCaaS. So core CCaaS, obviously, that's a big portion today, and that's gonna follow the shape of the curve for the total revenue guide, which means that if you back into the enterprise AI, it's gonna still be growing at a very, very fast clip, but it'll ebb and flow through the quarters, but it's still gonna be the fastest part of our portfolio.
Speaker #2: But these dynamics, it means that in Q1, the seasonal downtick that always happens in those two verticals are actually going to be a little bit more muted than what we saw a year ago.
Speaker #2: And that's exactly what's baked into our guidance. If you look at our Q1 revenue guide, the sequential changes flat this year. But if you compare that to a year ago, it was negative 2% sequential guide, right?
Speaker #2: And so, going forward for the rest of 2026—and by the way, on the non, all the other—we track 17 verticals. The other 15, they're pretty much in line with typical sequential growth rates for Q4.
Product experience, operation and event. You look at AI outside the industry as you look into 59 and I know you talked about opportunities, huge, how do you see, you know, to navigate, uh, 59 when it comes to product, or where do you think you can, you know, bring some changes or work? Do you think it's working or do you think it is too early to talk about that?
Dan Ives: Got it. Thanks, guys.
Dan Ives: Got it. Thanks, guys.
Mike Burkland: Thank you.
Mike Burkland: Thank you.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Siddhi Panigrahi from Mizuho. Siddhi, I'll go ahead and ask you to unmute at this time.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Siddhi Panigrahi from Mizuho. Siddhi, I'll go ahead and ask you to unmute at this time.
Speaker #2: And going throughout 2026, what we're assuming is that the seasonality, the macro conditions are all very similar to what we saw in the fourth quarter.
Siti Panigrahi: Great. Mike, it was great working with you, and wish you good luck for your next phase. And, Amit, congratulations, and look forward to working with you.
Siti Panigrahi: Great. Mike, it was great working with you, and wish you good luck for your next phase. And, Amit, congratulations, and look forward to working with you.
Speaker #3: And I can add in on some of the segments. I mean, our three biggest verticals are financial services, healthcare, retail, and we're truly seeing the adoption in those spaces, right?
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Speaker #3: And I think what it points to is the platform advantage that we do have. Healthcare, financial services, just from a regulatory perspective, security, integration—we talk about the complexity of the CCaaS deployment.
Siti Panigrahi: Great. Amit, I wanna ask you, you know, you have great product experience, operation, and even you look at AI outside the industry. As you look into Five9, and I know you talked about opportunities here, how do you see, you know, to navigate Five9 when it comes to product? Or where do you think you can, you know, bring some changes, or where do you think it's working? Or do you think it is too early to talk about that?
Siti Panigrahi: Great. Amit, I wanna ask you, you know, you have great product experience, operation, and even you look at AI outside the industry. As you look into Five9, and I know you talked about opportunities here, how do you see, you know, to navigate Five9 when it comes to product? Or where do you think you can, you know, bring some changes, or where do you think it's working? Or do you think it is too early to talk about that?
Speaker #3: On average, we do 24 integrations, and at times, up to 100 integrations. And so, I think the bar is really high for them to adopt AI.
Um, thank you for that question. Look, I think you're the answer to the combination of what you what you laid out a little bit. Look, 1 of the reasons I took this role is I am, you know, really bullish on on the transformation. That's going to happen within the CX space. As humans agents systems software all come together. I actually think this turns, you know, allows our end users and customers to have, you know, more efficiency greater experiences. And in some cases new experiences that haven't even been factored in as yet, right? Just like how uh, the internet, you know, per se transformed retail and so for me I am really, you know, looking forward to unlocking that
Speaker #3: And I think it just shows the fact that we're building true, scalable enterprise AI solutions. It's a testament to the success the team's had building the products.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Thank you, Siddhi, for that question. Look, I think the answer is a combination of what you, what you laid out a little bit. Look, one of the reasons I took this role is I am, you know, really bullish on, on the transformation that's going to happen within the CX space. As humans, agents, systems, software all come together, I actually think this turns, you know, allows our end users and customers to have, you know, more efficiency, greater experiences, and in some cases, new experiences that haven't even been factored in as yet, right? Just like how the internet, you know, per se, transformed retail. And so for me, I am really, you know, looking forward to unlocking that, which is, how do we actually increase the TAM by doing new things with AI and traditional CCaaS and providing customers new opportunities?
Bryan Lee: Thank you, Siddhi, for that question. Look, I think the answer is a combination of what you, what you laid out a little bit. Look, one of the reasons I took this role is I am, you know, really bullish on, on the transformation that's going to happen within the CX space. As humans, agents, systems, software all come together, I actually think this turns, you know, allows our end users and customers to have, you know, more efficiency, greater experiences, and in some cases, new experiences that haven't even been factored in as yet, right? Just like how the internet, you know, per se, transformed retail. And so for me, I am really, you know, looking forward to unlocking that, which is, how do we actually increase the TAM by doing new things with AI and traditional CCaaS and providing customers new opportunities?
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Jackson Eater of KeyBank. You can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Which is how do we actually increase the time by doing new things with AI and traditional Cass and providing customers new opportunities to the second part of the question on, where do we go from here? And, you know, which pieces it's a little bit early. I'm still, you know, getting my my feet around our product and our road maps. But what is really exciting is, you know, this that we put out, which is we want
Speaker #5: Hey, guys. This is Jack Nicholson from Jackson Eater. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could talk about new logo, large customer pipeline, and how influential Five9's AI features help land new customers.
Already done a hundred million dollars in ARR of of AI and it's growing. So we have proof points to back up this thesis the AI is growing it's it's happening fast.
And it's happening both in our in our new logo as well as in the existing base.
Speaker #5: And then as a follow-up, could you talk about how AI helps dollar-based trust retention and then the dynamics of upselling in renewal contracts?
Great. Thank you. Thanks.
Okay, our next question comes from Ryan McWilliams of Wells. Fargo, you can go ahead and unmute at this time.
Speaker #2: Yeah, we feel good about our in terms of our large deal pipeline, we feel good about the levels continuing to be strong. And obviously, AI is a big part of why they're choosing Five9.
Excellent. Um this was for Mike, Mike. I mean what a great round and um congrats I mean I just think back to probably, you know,
Speaker #2: And so, both in landing new logos and then, as you've heard us talk about, $10 million-plus deals over the last couple of quarters that are expanding their spend with us.
Bryan Lee: To the second part of the question on where do we go from here, and, you know, which pieces, it's a little bit early. I'm still, you know, getting my, my feet around our product and our roadmaps. But what is really exciting is, you know, the stat we put out, which is we've already done $100 million in ARR of AI, and it's growing. So we have proof points to back up this thesis that AI is growing, it's happening fast, and it's happening both in our new logo as well as in the existing base.
Bryan Lee: To the second part of the question on where do we go from here, and, you know, which pieces, it's a little bit early. I'm still, you know, getting my, my feet around our product and our roadmaps. But what is really exciting is, you know, the stat we put out, which is we've already done $100 million in ARR of AI, and it's growing. So we have proof points to back up this thesis that AI is growing, it's happening fast, and it's happening both in our new logo as well as in the existing base.
Speaker #2: And so I think it's kind of across both segments.
Speaker #3: Yeah, and I'll just say from a financial perspective, for DBRR, when we talked about enterprise AI bookings doubling during the quarter, it wasn't just on the new logo side.
Speaker #3: It was both new logos and install-based. So we're seeing a lot of momentum there. And that's part of what's going into the backlog and then driving that acceleration on a total revenue basis, but also from a DBRR perspective in terms of the inflection upward in the second half.
15 years ago, when people said that the biggest contact centers in the world would never move to the cloud, right? And now, you guys have customers that are over 10,000 seats and some of the largest Fortune 50 companies that are out there. So um, people have been wrong before in the contacts in our industry. Um about what's coming next. I mean, as you kind of take a step back today, what do you think people are missing right now in terms of the contact center opportunity? Like I know it feels like the secret is a the seats are a question and like you know where are some of these um interactions will be but like what do you think? You know, the contact center of 5 years from now means for 5'9?
Siti Panigrahi: Great. Thank you.
Siti Panigrahi: Great. Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Thanks.
Bryan Lee: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Jack.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Ryan McWilliams of Wells Fargo. You can go ahead and unmute at this time.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Ryan McWilliams of Wells Fargo. You can go ahead and unmute at this time.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Arjun Bhatia. Arjun, you can go ahead and unmute and turn on your camera at this time.
Ryan MacWilliams: Excellent. This one's for Mike. Mike, I mean, what a great run, and congrats. I mean, I just think back to probably, you know, 15 years ago when people said that the biggest contact centers in the world would never move to the cloud, right? And now you guys have customers that are over 10,000 seats and some of the largest Fortune 50 companies that are out there. So, people have been wrong before in the contact center industry about what's coming next. I mean, as you kind of take a step back today, what do you think people are missing right now in terms of the contact center opportunity?
Ryan MacWilliams: Excellent. This one's for Mike. Mike, I mean, what a great run, and congrats. I mean, I just think back to probably, you know, 15 years ago when people said that the biggest contact centers in the world would never move to the cloud, right? And now you guys have customers that are over 10,000 seats and some of the largest Fortune 50 companies that are out there. So, people have been wrong before in the contact center industry about what's coming next. I mean, as you kind of take a step back today, what do you think people are missing right now in terms of the contact center opportunity?
Speaker #5: All right. Perfect. Thanks, guys. I had two, I guess, two questions. First, just on the NRR uptick, how when you're expecting to inflect in the back half, obviously, that's a trailing 12-month metric, but where exactly kind of are you seeing the upsell, cross-sell?
Speaker #5: Is that coming through on the AI front? Is it core CCAS continuing to pick up pace, or on-prem migrations right from legacy kind of Cisco via?
Ryan MacWilliams: Like, I know it feels like the CX is a, the seats are a question and like, you know, where some of these interactions will be, but like, what do you think, you know, the contact center of five years from now means for Five9?
Ryan MacWilliams: Like, I know it feels like the CX is a, the seats are a question and like, you know, where some of these interactions will be, but like, what do you think, you know, the contact center of five years from now means for Five9?
Speaker #5: And then just a follow-up on the Google question, are you is it exclusive with Gemini? Are you using multiple models? Can you just talk about how you've built your stack a little bit?
Mike Burkland: Yeah. Well, thanks, Ryan. Appreciate the comments. Look, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, I remember when we went public in 2014, how, you know, everyone really just questioned whether or not large enterprises would shift to the cloud. And obviously, we're, you know, we're 40% cloud today, 60% still are on-prem, and it's gonna be a multiyear, you know, opportunity for us to continue that trend. But look, things have changed. The AI opportunity is massive. We've invested. We were early in this investment with our Inference acquisition. We've built a lot of capabilities on top of that.
Mike Burkland: Yeah. Well, thanks, Ryan. Appreciate the comments. Look, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, I remember when we went public in 2014, how, you know, everyone really just questioned whether or not large enterprises would shift to the cloud. And obviously, we're, you know, we're 40% cloud today, 60% still are on-prem, and it's gonna be a multiyear, you know, opportunity for us to continue that trend. But look, things have changed. The AI opportunity is massive. We've invested. We were early in this investment with our Inference acquisition. We've built a lot of capabilities on top of that.
Yeah. Thanks Ryan. Appreciate the comments and uh, look, I think, um, you're absolutely right. I mean I remember when we went public in 2014 um how you know, everyone really just questioned whether or not large Enterprises would shift to the cloud and obviously we're, you know, we're 40% Cloud today. 60% still are on-prem and it's it's going to be a multi-year, you know, opportunity for us to continue that Trend but look, things have changed, the AI, um, opportunity is massive. We've invested. We were early in this investment with our inference acquisition. We built a a lot of capabilities on top of that. And I think what, I think, what people are starting to realize. And I'm not sure, you know, I think we're just at the very beginning of this, um, uh realization, quite frankly across, you know, the investor set and cross. I think our customers already see this, but I think the investor Community is, is starting to learn that this, this
Speaker #3: Yeah, Arjun, I'll answer the first part of the question. So, if you look at DBRR, I do want to point out that the spot rate in Q4 actually stepped up from Q3 to Q4.
Speaker #3: And that was driven by the conversion of install-based bookings in our backlog to revenue during the quarter. So even though the last 12 months coming into the last quarter actually stepped down on a rounded basis from 107 to 105, which in actuality was only a little bit over 1 percentage point, that was more of a calculation where that's an LTM figure, like you said, right?
End to end platform advantage that we have and some other players have think of, again, 59 as the the system of Engagement of the system of interaction, the system of action as opposed to say a CRM system, which is kind of the system of record. And I think it's important to understand that we're on the front lines. We're right there at the moment of truth with a customer and a brand and we have an unfair Advantage because of that and providing both AI driven.
Speaker #3: Where it was dropping off Q4 '24 where it benefited from very strong seasonality, and our largest customer finishing is multi-year ramp at that time.
Speaker #3: So, we're already going into the year with a step up from Q3 to Q4. And, of course, it'll stabilize and fluctuate in either direction slightly.
Mike Burkland: I think what people are starting to realize, and I'm not sure, you know, I think we're just at the very beginning of this realization, quite frankly, across, you know, the investor set and across... I think our customers already see this, but I think the investor community is starting to learn that this end-to-end platform advantage that we have and some other players have. Think of, again, Five9 as the system of engagement or the system of interaction, the system of action, as opposed to, say, a CRM system, which is kind of the system of record. I think it's important to understand that we're on the front lines. We're right there at the moment of truth with a customer and a brand, and we have an unfair advantage because of that.
Mike Burkland: I think what people are starting to realize, and I'm not sure, you know, I think we're just at the very beginning of this realization, quite frankly, across, you know, the investor set and across... I think our customers already see this, but I think the investor community is starting to learn that this end-to-end platform advantage that we have and some other players have. Think of, again, Five9 as the system of engagement or the system of interaction, the system of action, as opposed to, say, a CRM system, which is kind of the system of record. I think it's important to understand that we're on the front lines. We're right there at the moment of truth with a customer and a brand, and we have an unfair advantage because of that.
Speaker #3: But the driver of that inflection upward is really driven by both core CCaaS and AI. So, we saw the momentum in Q4. We talked about the acceleration on both sides.
Solutions as well as solutions for the human agents in an orchestrated fashion. That is our power. That is the power of our platform and it results in again these personalized contextual and connected experiences that only a platform like 59 can deliver. And I think that is what, you know, it's showing up in the numbers but I think
Speaker #3: And if you look at the backlog, yes, AI has been gaining significant momentum. And it's consistently been above 20% of enterprise net new bookings.
Speaker #3: But core CCAS, it's always attached to core CCAS in a vast majority of deals. And that's also sitting in our backlog. So really, the acceleration will be coming from both.
On the other side of the wrong answer. Um, but thank you, guys, appreciate it. Thank you Ryan, appreciate it.
Speaker #2: And on the LLM question that Gemini, I mean, we made a decision seven years ago, and that rings true, that we believe that sort of a multiple engine, multiple LLM is the way to build the products.
All right, our next question comes from Terry Tillman of truist Terry. Go ahead and unmute and ask your question.
Mike Burkland: Providing both AI-driven solutions as well as solutions for the human agents in an orchestrated fashion, that is our power, that is the power of our platform, and it results in, again, these personalized, contextual, and connected experiences that only a platform like Five9 can deliver. And I think that is what. You know, it's showing up in the numbers, but I think we're starting to talk more explicitly about those numbers, Ryan, and that is, you know, our core CCaaS revenue growth accelerated from 7 to 8, and our AI revenue growth accelerated from 41 to 50, and that is the recipe for success. I'll stop there.
Mike Burkland: Providing both AI-driven solutions as well as solutions for the human agents in an orchestrated fashion, that is our power, that is the power of our platform, and it results in, again, these personalized, contextual, and connected experiences that only a platform like Five9 can deliver. And I think that is what. You know, it's showing up in the numbers, but I think we're starting to talk more explicitly about those numbers, Ryan, and that is, you know, our core CCaaS revenue growth accelerated from 7 to 8, and our AI revenue growth accelerated from 41 to 50, and that is the recipe for success. I'll stop there.
Speaker #2: We sort of saw where this was going, which is these LLMs are continuing to kind of one-up each other, right? And the other thing that's really important is each one of them sometimes delivered specific capabilities, right?
Speaker #2: You could have a single use case and use multiple LLMs as part of that. Now, certainly, as part of the joint go-to-market with Google, we're going to be leveraging Gemini, right?
Hi guys. This is John Carlo on for Terry and I appreciate the question, congrats on the strong quarter and I think that you guys were talking about the strong adoption for the newer features that you guys rolled out. And I was just wondering, you know, um, what sectors, we're seeing the highest uptake um for those features and maybe you talk about what customers are kind of saying um was their biggest pain point and like how has that changed over the last few months? Thanks.
Speaker #2: There's a lot of really strong performance. We have a team within engineering and our services teams that are constantly benchmarking these LLMs as well.
Speaker #2: And so kind of that brings us really to allow us to really continue to innovate on top of what's going on in the market.
Speaker #5: All right, perfect. Appreciate the caller. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Elizabeth Porter of Morgan Stanley. You can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Ryan MacWilliams: Hey, you really wanna trust the system to give you the right answer 'cause, it's not fun to be on the other side of a wrong answer. But thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
Ryan MacWilliams: Hey, you really wanna trust the system to give you the right answer 'cause, it's not fun to be on the other side of a wrong answer. But thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you all so much for taking the questions. And I just want to echo the congratulations to Mike and Ahmed. I guess the question from our side is, I think in the past, you guys have described kind of an AI fog among enterprise customers that haven't kind of lifted through 2025.
Mike Burkland: Thank you, Ryan. Appreciate it.
Mike Burkland: Thank you, Ryan. Appreciate it.
Operator: All right, our next question comes from Terry Tillman of Truist. Terry, go ahead and unmute and ask your question.
Operator: All right, our next question comes from Terry Tillman of Truist. Terry, go ahead and unmute and ask your question.
Terry Tillman: Hi, guys, this is Giancarlo on for Terry, and I appreciate the question. Congrats on the strong quarter. I think that you guys were talking about the strong adoption for the newer features that you guys rolled out, and I was just wondering, you know, what sectors we're seeing the highest uptake for those features? And maybe can you talk about what customers are kind of saying, what's their biggest pain point, and like, how has that changed over the last few months? Thanks.
Terry Tillman: Hi, guys, this is Giancarlo on for Terry, and I appreciate the question. Congrats on the strong quarter. I think that you guys were talking about the strong adoption for the newer features that you guys rolled out, and I was just wondering, you know, what sectors we're seeing the highest uptake for those features? And maybe can you talk about what customers are kind of saying, what's their biggest pain point, and like, how has that changed over the last few months? Thanks.
Speaker #4: And I guess, just in light of some of the splashy announcements from the Frontier Labs or some of the upstarts in the space, has that fog stayed clear as we enter 2026, or are you seeing any sort of lengthening in sales cycles as a result?
Yeah, and yeah, I can go and take that 1. So we're seeing a lot of success in in healthcare and Retail and we've talked to um, about a lot of expansion within our customer base. And so I think what, you know, really what we're seeing is customers wanting to take that next Evolution from their CX strategy to Ai and the the challenges that most of them are have historically seen is their data is not in a good spot, right? We've talked about this for a while. Your axe reality is only good as your data strategy. And so we put a lot of effort into focusing on making sure that our customers understand where their data needs to be, to go deliver on those use cases and over time as we've talked about, you know, like the customer example today, um, a customer expanding their AI, we proved that time and time again over the last couple of years. And so now they're making their bets for 3 and 5 year renewals based on, you know, what? We demonstrated and our success, and our confidence in us going into the future.
Got it makes sense, guys. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I'll start, Andy. Please chime in. Look, I think it's safe to say that every company in the world is prioritizing their AI decisions, right?
Mike Burkland: Yeah. Andy?
Mike Burkland: Yeah. Andy?
Andy Dignan: Yeah, I can go ahead and take that one. So we're seeing a lot of success in healthcare and retail, and we've talked about a lot of expansion within our customer base. And so I think what, you know, really what we're seeing is customers wanting to take that next evolution from their CX strategy to AI. And the challenges that most of them have historically seen is their data is not in a good spot, right? We've talked about this for a while. Your AI strategy is only good as your data strategy. And so we put a lot of effort into focusing on making sure that our customers understand where their data needs to be to go deliver on those use cases.
Andy Dignan: Yeah, I can go ahead and take that one. So we're seeing a lot of success in healthcare and retail, and we've talked about a lot of expansion within our customer base. And so I think what, you know, really what we're seeing is customers wanting to take that next evolution from their CX strategy to AI. And the challenges that most of them have historically seen is their data is not in a good spot, right? We've talked about this for a while. Your AI strategy is only good as your data strategy. And so we put a lot of effort into focusing on making sure that our customers understand where their data needs to be to go deliver on those use cases.
Speaker #2: And that's not going away. The fog that we saw predominantly in the kind of middle of '24 is that or sorry, yeah, a while back was really just that the lack of CCAS decision-making because of that.
Speaker #2: But we still obviously every enterprise out there is thinking about AI first. And we're now part of those conversations. It's so important for us to be front and center in the CX part of those AI decisions.
Okay. All right. Next question comes from. Katherine trebnick. A rosenblat Katherine. You can go ahead and unmute and ask your question now. Thank you. Congratulations, Mike. And I met and, um, back to the AI question. So what percentage of your Enterprise base is adopting the AI? Especially looking at AI agents assistant, genius routing what I'm trying to really understand is what's a Runway going forward for for, um, Enterprise adoption. Thanks.
Andy Dignan: Over time, as we've talked about, you know, like the customer example today, a customer expanding their AI, we've proved that time and time again over the last couple of years. Now they're making their bets for three- and five-year renewals based on what we demonstrated, our success, and their confidence in us going into the future.
Andy Dignan: Over time, as we've talked about, you know, like the customer example today, a customer expanding their AI, we've proved that time and time again over the last couple of years. Now they're making their bets for three- and five-year renewals based on what we demonstrated, our success, and their confidence in us going into the future.
Speaker #2: And our sellers have become the experts. We've got solutions that we can lead with from an AI perspective, and it's a great way for us to go to market—to a market that is pulling a lot of attention around AI.
Speaker #3: Yeah, and in terms of the lengthening of sales cycles, I mean, outside of that fog, which was a lot of times customers were coming off of doing a lot of proof of concepts, right, that weren't successful, we kind of saw that as an opportunity like Mike said to really up our game in terms of enabling our teams, but really more so very focused on having specific vertical-driven outcomes that we have customers who deployed it before, and so that really kind of came through.
Terry Tillman: Got it. Makes sense, guys. Thank you.
Terry Tillman: Got it. Makes sense, guys. Thank you.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Catharine Trebnick of Rosenblatt. Catharine, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question now.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Catharine Trebnick of Rosenblatt. Catharine, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question now.
Catharine Trebnick: Thank you. Congratulations, Mike and Amit. And back to the AI question. So what percentage of your enterprise base is adopting the AI, especially looking at AI agents, Agent Assist, and Genius Routing? What I'm trying to really understand is, what's the runway going forward for enterprise adoption? Thanks.
Catharine Trebnick: Thank you. Congratulations, Mike and Amit. And back to the AI question. So what percentage of your enterprise base is adopting the AI, especially looking at AI agents, Agent Assist, and Genius Routing? What I'm trying to really understand is, what's the runway going forward for enterprise adoption? Thanks.
Yeah, I'm happy to start. Uh, hello Katherine. Um, look, I think it's early days in terms of um kind of end to end full penetration within our base. Almost every single 1 of our customers is obviously, right? Every, every Enterprise in the world is looking at Ai and making AI decisions, but it's early in terms of the role out in a lot of these cases. Um, and again, I talked about our end to end platform a lot and the fact that, you know, our customers are rolling out our Ai and our ccas in production environments, uh, not just in proof of Concepts, not just in, you know, um, slick demos, but in real production environments and, uh, it but it's still, it's still early days. And this opportunity, uh, as I talked about, we've crossed a 100 million in ARR and AI, but it's we're just getting started.
Speaker #3: And so that's allowed us to, in my opinion, sort of accelerate some of our sales cycles both on the new logo side and obviously the install-based side customers continuing to just buy more of our AI.
Okay, thank you.
Mike Burkland: Yeah, I'm happy to start. Hello, Catharine. Look, I think it's early days in terms of, kind of end-to-end full penetration within our base. Almost every single one of our customers is obviously, right, every enterprise in the world is looking at AI and making AI decisions, but it's early in terms of the rollout in a lot of these cases. And again, I talked about our end-to-end platform a lot, and the fact that, you know, our customers are rolling out our AI and our CCaaS in production environments, not just in proof of concepts, not just in, you know, slick demos, but in real production environments. But it's still, it's still early days in this opportunity. As I talked about, we've crossed $100 million in ARR and AI, but it's, we're just getting started.
Mike Burkland: Yeah, I'm happy to start. Hello, Catharine. Look, I think it's early days in terms of, kind of end-to-end full penetration within our base. Almost every single one of our customers is obviously, right, every enterprise in the world is looking at AI and making AI decisions, but it's early in terms of the rollout in a lot of these cases. And again, I talked about our end-to-end platform a lot, and the fact that, you know, our customers are rolling out our AI and our CCaaS in production environments, not just in proof of concepts, not just in, you know, slick demos, but in real production environments. But it's still, it's still early days in this opportunity. As I talked about, we've crossed $100 million in ARR and AI, but it's, we're just getting started.
Okay, our next question comes from Peter Levine of evercore Peter. You can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you so much.
Speaker #1: OK, our next question comes from Geoluria of VA Davidson. Geo, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Speaker #5: This is Clark, right on for Geoluria. Thinking about the medium-term financial framework, you're already effectively in line with all the metrics, excluding gross margins and revenue growth.
Speaker #5: How do you think about the impact of AI adoption on revenue growth and the inferencing costs that that can weigh on gross margins going forward?
Speaker #3: Yeah, so I'm happy to answer that. So if you think about enterprise AI revenue growth, what we've always said is that there's a significant opportunity out there we've been very successful in terms of the bookings growth rate that you've seen.
Speaker #3: And if we can continue that, it's definitely upside to the revenue forecast and guidance that we have out there. And it's a huge time expander for us, right?
Catharine Trebnick: Okay. Thank you.
Catharine Trebnick: Okay. Thank you.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Peter Levine of Evercore. Peter, you can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Peter Levine of Evercore. Peter, you can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Speaker #3: And we continue to execute very strongly there. Now, in terms of margins, if you look at our AI agents, which is the biggest part of our enterprise AI portfolio, they actually we have gross margins in the high 70s and 80s.
Peter Levine: Thank you, guys. Mike, you know, best of luck, and Amit, welcome aboard. You know, maybe, you know, how do you think about the risk that, you know, the LLM-native platforms bypass, you know, the traditional CCaaS, you know, architecture entirely, right? Like, in what scenario does an enterprise build their own AI agent directly on top of, like, an OpenAI Anthropic, right? I guess the question is, like, what core functionality does Five9 provide that can't be replicated? Meaning, like, what's the hardest to kind of disintermediate from you guys? Is it the workflow, the infrastructure, the compliance, the data? Like, help us think through, like, the risk that these platforms are gonna come in overnight and replace you guys.
Peter Levine: Thank you, guys. Mike, you know, best of luck, and Amit, welcome aboard. You know, maybe, you know, how do you think about the risk that, you know, the LLM-native platforms bypass, you know, the traditional CCaaS, you know, architecture entirely, right? Like, in what scenario does an enterprise build their own AI agent directly on top of, like, an OpenAI Anthropic, right? I guess the question is, like, what core functionality does Five9 provide that can't be replicated? Meaning, like, what's the hardest to kind of disintermediate from you guys? Is it the workflow, the infrastructure, the compliance, the data? Like, help us think through, like, the risk that these platforms are gonna come in overnight and replace you guys.
Thank you guys. Um, Mike, uh, you know, best of luck and a board, you know, maybe you know, how do you think about the risk that, you know, the llm native platforms? Bypass, you know, the traditional Cass. You know, architecture entirely right like in in, in What scenario does an Enterprise build their own AI agent directly on top of like, an open Ai and topics, right? And I, I guess the question is like what core functionality does 59 provide? That can't be replicated. Meaning like what's the hardest to kind of this intermediate from from you guys? Is it the workflow the infrastructure, the compliance, the data like help us think through like the risk that these platforms are going to come in overnight from a place you guys. Yeah, a very good question, Peter and I'll start and you guys feel free to chime in again, we talked about our platform advantages, mainly the data, it data advantages, number 1 and it's conversational data and its historical and real-time conversational data. Um, it's also this orchestration capability.
Speaker #3: And that AI portion as it becomes a bigger mix of our revenue, we expect that to be a creative part of our overall gross margin trajectory going forward.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #1: This concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I will now hand the call back over to CEO Michael Burkland for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Chairman, to be correct, Ahmed is our new CEO. And look, I just want to thank everybody for joining us. I also want to just say personally, thank you to all the analysts and all our shareholders, it's been a pleasure, my pleasure to work with all of you.
All channels and across any back-end. You know, whether it's AI on the back end handling this interaction or whether it's a human agent, being able to orchestrate across this entire interaction. Set is a absolute competitive mode. Um, and look, uh, we're going to continue to have advancements by llms, but I've said this, even 2 years ago, uh, you cannot run a customer service organization on an llm llms are foundational technology that we're all leveraging to deliver applications.
Mike Burkland: Yeah, very good question, Peter, and I'll start, and you guys feel free to chime in. Again, we talk about our platform advantages, mainly the data. The data advantage is number one, and it's conversational data, and it's historical and real-time conversational data. It's also this orchestration capability across all channels and across any back end, you know, whether it's AI on the back end handling this interaction or whether it's a human agent. Being able to orchestrate across this entire interaction set is an absolute competitive moat. We're gonna continue to have advancements by LLMs, but I've said this even two years ago, you cannot run a customer service organization on an LLM. LLMs are a foundational technology that we're all leveraging to deliver applications, solutions for customer experience. And the bar is set.
Mike Burkland: Yeah, very good question, Peter, and I'll start, and you guys feel free to chime in. Again, we talk about our platform advantages, mainly the data. The data advantage is number one, and it's conversational data, and it's historical and real-time conversational data. It's also this orchestration capability across all channels and across any back end, you know, whether it's AI on the back end handling this interaction or whether it's a human agent. Being able to orchestrate across this entire interaction set is an absolute competitive moat. We're gonna continue to have advancements by LLMs, but I've said this even two years ago, you cannot run a customer service organization on an LLM. LLMs are a foundational technology that we're all leveraging to deliver applications, solutions for customer experience. And the bar is set.
Speaker #4: And Ahmed, welcome aboard again. I am so bullish on our future, and a big part of that bullishness is because you're here as our next CEO, so welcome.
Speaker #4: Welcome. Thanks, everyone.
Thousands of human agents and now thousands of uh, AI agents and and in the future and that orchestration capability is really uh, uh, isolated to these end to end platforms like 59, maybe break. Can you just help us understand the 100 million in AI Revenue? What percentage of that is like, C based usage based but just help us understand what makes up that that. Yeah. So our hundred million dollars of Enterprise AI revenue is all consumption or capacity based. So, the way it works is that we charge for a block of committed units, whether that's minutes, a gigabytes, or whatever it may be and then anything above that would be overage. So it is absolutely consumption based. And um, yeah and gaining a lot of Attraction there.
Thank you guys.
Mike Burkland: The bar is always going to be, you know, there's an orchestration capability of these on-premise solutions that we replace. They're supporting thousands of human agents and now thousands of AI agents in the future. And that orchestration capability is really isolated to these end-to-end platforms like Five9.
Mike Burkland: The bar is always going to be, you know, there's an orchestration capability of these on-premise solutions that we replace. They're supporting thousands of human agents and now thousands of AI agents in the future. And that orchestration capability is really isolated to these end-to-end platforms like Five9.
Okay, our next question comes from, uh,
Peter Levine: Maybe, Brian, can you just help us understand the $100 million in AI revenue, what percentage of that is, like, seat-based, usage-based? Just help us understand what makes up that, that $100 million.
Peter Levine: Maybe, Brian, can you just help us understand the $100 million in AI revenue, what percentage of that is, like, seat-based, usage-based? Just help us understand what makes up that, that $100 million.
Bryan Lee: Yeah. So our $100 million of enterprise data revenue is all consumption or capacity-based. So the way it works is that we charge for a block of committed units, whether that's minutes or gigabytes or whatever it may be, and then anything above that would be overage. So it is absolutely consumption-based and, yeah, and gaining a lot of traction there.
Bryan Lee: Yeah. So our $100 million of enterprise data revenue is all consumption or capacity-based. So the way it works is that we charge for a block of committed units, whether that's minutes or gigabytes or whatever it may be, and then anything above that would be overage. So it is absolutely consumption-based and, yeah, and gaining a lot of traction there.
S from Jeffrey's someone, you can go ahead and unmute at this time. Hi. Good evening. I'll Echo the words of my peers. So congrats Mike and uh, great to be working with you Ahmed. Just uh, I guess a question Brian is. I think about the, the guidance and how you're thinking about the the kind of the first half versus the second half, how much of that is influenced by the timing of either large logos that were still in the backlog? Whether you know, so let's call it like the large pharmaceutical company or the large um logistics company being Fully live, uh, versus how much of that is AI, Revenue ramping, and have you made any adjustments to the guidance out?
Algorithm to account for maybe the change in, in Revenue, being more consumption based versus seat based. So just help us understand kind of the guidance mechanics.
Peter Levine: Thank you, guys.
Peter Levine: Thank you, guys.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Samad Samana from Jefferies. Samad, you can go ahead and unmute at this time.
Operator: Okay, our next question comes from Samad Samana from Jefferies. Samad, you can go ahead and unmute at this time.
Samad Samana: Good evening. I'll echo the words of my peers. So congrats, Mike, and great to be working with you, Amit. Just, I guess a question, Bryan, as I think about the guidance and how you're thinking about the kind of the first half versus the second half, how much of that is influenced by the timing of either large logos that were still in the backlog, whether, you know, so let's call it the large pharmaceutical company or the large logistics company being fully live versus how much of that is AI revenue ramping? And have you made any adjustment to the guidance algorithm to account for maybe the change in revenue being more consumption-based versus seat-based? Just help us understand kind of the guidance mechanics.
Samad Samana: Good evening. I'll echo the words of my peers. So congrats, Mike, and great to be working with you, Amit. Just, I guess a question, Bryan, as I think about the guidance and how you're thinking about the kind of the first half versus the second half, how much of that is influenced by the timing of either large logos that were still in the backlog, whether, you know, so let's call it the large pharmaceutical company or the large logistics company being fully live versus how much of that is AI revenue ramping? And have you made any adjustment to the guidance algorithm to account for maybe the change in revenue being more consumption-based versus seat-based? Just help us understand kind of the guidance mechanics.
Yeah, absolutely. So if you think about point point 6 Revenue regarding to a midpoint of 1.254 billion so that essentially for the year implies incremental, revenue of 105 million. So I'll kind of talk about that in the form of contributions from you know, DVR R versus backlog versus new logo. Go gets for the year. So if you look at DVR first, the LTM rate we exited at 2025 at 105 and we expect that to stabilize in the first half with minor fluctuations in either direction. But then inflect in the second half, right? And that alone makes up about 2/3 of that, 105 million dollars of incremental Revenue,
Bryan Lee: Yeah, absolutely. So if you think about 2026 revenue, we're guiding to a midpoint of $1.254 billion. So that essentially, for the year, implies incremental revenue of $105 million. So I'll kind of talk about that in the form of contributions from, you know, DBRR versus backlog versus new logo bookings for the year. So if you look at DBRR first, the LTM rate, we exited 2025 at 105%, and we expect that to stabilize in the first half with minor fluctuations in either direction, but then inflect in the second half, right? And that alone makes up about two-thirds of that $105 million of incremental revenue. So the remaining third is actually fully covered by the backlog that we have. And so essentially, there's...
Bryan Lee: Yeah, absolutely. So if you think about 2026 revenue, we're guiding to a midpoint of $1.254 billion. So that essentially, for the year, implies incremental revenue of $105 million. So I'll kind of talk about that in the form of contributions from, you know, DBRR versus backlog versus new logo bookings for the year. So if you look at DBRR first, the LTM rate, we exited 2025 at 105%, and we expect that to stabilize in the first half with minor fluctuations in either direction, but then inflect in the second half, right? And that alone makes up about two-thirds of that $105 million of incremental revenue. So the remaining third is actually fully covered by the backlog that we have. And so essentially, there's...
So, the remaining third is actually fully covered by the backlog that we have. And so, essentially there's, um, and that has contingencies built in as well. So there's essentially no dependencies on the new logo go gets for the year and the backlog. Uh, as you said, it is combined with both new logo, bookings that we've already won as well as install based bookings that we want to have ramped associated with it and those are turning into Revenue throughout the year. We have great visibility into those but every single customer in that backlog has a unique schedule of rent. And, and it's, uh, this year happens to be much more back-end loaded. Which is why there's that acceleration.
To double digit growth in the back half of the year. And if you think about, you know, consumption versus, um, uh, seep based. So our AI portfolio is um, all consumption and capacity. But as I talked about earlier and that's going to continue to be a significant driver of uh growth throughout the year. It's got Evan flow. As I mentioned earlier, that will be the fastest growing part of our portfolio.
Bryan Lee: That has contingencies built in as well. So there's essentially no dependencies on the new logo bookings for the year. And the backlog, as you said, it is combined with both new logo bookings that we've already won, as well as install-based bookings that we've won that have ramp associated with it, and those are turning into revenue throughout the year. We have great visibility into those, but every single customer in that backlog has a unique schedule of ramp. And it's this year happens to be much more back-end loaded, which is why there's that acceleration to double-digit growth in the back half of the year.
Bryan Lee: That has contingencies built in as well. So there's essentially no dependencies on the new logo bookings for the year. And the backlog, as you said, it is combined with both new logo bookings that we've already won, as well as install-based bookings that we've won that have ramp associated with it, and those are turning into revenue throughout the year. We have great visibility into those, but every single customer in that backlog has a unique schedule of ramp. And it's this year happens to be much more back-end loaded, which is why there's that acceleration to double-digit growth in the back half of the year.
And then maybe just a follow up on the AI Revenue, the 100 million for Enterprise AI, rev is is very impressive. Can you just maybe help us understand how much of that is maybe allocated toward? Let's call it like next-gen solutions that you guys have rolled out and maybe like called the last 12 to 18 months versus maybe what was foundationally from like an inference or something that you had kind of in a prior period, just to help understand where the momentum is inside of the portfolio. Thank you again for taking my questions.
Bryan Lee: If you think about, you know, consumption versus seat-based, so our AI portfolio is all consumption and capacity-based, as I talked about earlier, and that's gonna continue to be a significant driver of growth throughout the year. It's got ebb and flow, as I mentioned earlier, but it'll be the fastest growing part of our portfolio.
Bryan Lee: If you think about, you know, consumption versus seat-based, so our AI portfolio is all consumption and capacity-based, as I talked about earlier, and that's gonna continue to be a significant driver of growth throughout the year. It's got ebb and flow, as I mentioned earlier, but it'll be the fastest growing part of our portfolio.
Samad Samana: And then maybe just a follow-up. On the AI revenue, the $100 million for enterprise AI rev is, is very impressive. Can you just maybe help us understand how much of that is maybe allocated toward, let's call it, like, next gen solutions that you guys have rolled out and maybe, like, call it the last 12 to 18 months, versus maybe what was foundationally from, like, an inference or something that you had kind of in a prior period, just to help understand where the momentum is inside of the portfolio. Thank you again for taking my questions.
Samad Samana: And then maybe just a follow-up. On the AI revenue, the $100 million for enterprise AI rev is, is very impressive. Can you just maybe help us understand how much of that is maybe allocated toward, let's call it, like, next gen solutions that you guys have rolled out and maybe, like, call it the last 12 to 18 months, versus maybe what was foundationally from, like, an inference or something that you had kind of in a prior period, just to help understand where the momentum is inside of the portfolio. Thank you again for taking my questions.
Yeah, I'm I'm happy to start and then, uh, others can chime in. So if you look at the composition of our AI Revenue, the 2 biggest ones, are our AI agents as well as agent assist, and Then followed by, you know, workflow Automation and a lot of other smaller products that are growing very fast, but still very small in nature. So, and AI agents, of course, we're getting a significant Traction in terms of, you know, the Gen AI based, as well as agent assist us using Genai as well. So, we haven't given the exact mix, but of course, there's really strong momentum and acceleration that is happening across the board.
All right. Our next question will come from DJ Hinds of Cano cord DJ. You can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask a question.
Awesome. Hey, guys, uh, well deserved, Mike, uh, we'll miss you on these calls but I know clearly you still have an impact on the business from the, the, the chairman seat. So, um, look forward to that. Um, good to see you again look forward to working with you. Um,
Bryan Lee: Yeah, I'm happy to start, and then others can chime in. So if you look at the composition of our AI revenues, the two biggest ones are our AI agents as well as Agent Assist, and then followed by, you know, workflow automation and a lot of other smaller products that are growing very fast, but still very small in nature. So AI agents, of course, are gaining significant traction in terms of, you know, the Gen AI base as well as Agent Assist that's using Gen AI as well. So we haven't given the exact mix, but of course, there's really strong momentum and acceleration that is happening across the board.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, I'm happy to start, and then others can chime in. So if you look at the composition of our AI revenues, the two biggest ones are our AI agents as well as Agent Assist, and then followed by, you know, workflow automation and a lot of other smaller products that are growing very fast, but still very small in nature. So AI agents, of course, are gaining significant traction in terms of, you know, the Gen AI base as well as Agent Assist that's using Gen AI as well. So we haven't given the exact mix, but of course, there's really strong momentum and acceleration that is happening across the board.
That's just a function of what we talked about last quarter, right? That lag between bookings to kind of when it hits the p&l. And if that's right I mean AI bookings. Have been growing quite a bit faster, right? I think 80% last quarter, 100% this quarter, that tells me AI, Revenue growth should continue to accelerate. So, is that a? Is that correct? And then the second question, I don't know if it's for you Mike or or Andy, but just talk a little bit more about the Google partnership, right? Like what that could mean for the business,
What are they using from you? What are they? What role does Gemini play in that just how did the pieces fit together? And and what it could mean,
Operator: All right. Our next question will come from DJ Hines of Canaccord. DJ, you can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Operator: All right. Our next question will come from DJ Hines of Canaccord. DJ, you can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
DJ Hynes: Awesome. Hey, guys. Well deserved, Mike. We'll miss you on these calls, but I know clearly you still have an impact on the business from the chairman seat, so look forward to that. Amit, good to see you again, look forward to working with you. I got two questions. Brian, I'm gonna start with you. The AI revenue growth acceleration, I suspect that's just a function of what we talked about last quarter, right? That lag between bookings to kind of when it hits the P&L. If that's right, I mean, AI bookings have been growing quite a bit faster, right? I think 80% last quarter, 100% this quarter. That tells me AI revenue growth should continue to accelerate. Is that-- A, is that correct?
DJ Hynes: Awesome. Hey, guys. Well deserved, Mike. We'll miss you on these calls, but I know clearly you still have an impact on the business from the chairman seat, so look forward to that. Amit, good to see you again, look forward to working with you. I got two questions. Brian, I'm gonna start with you. The AI revenue growth acceleration, I suspect that's just a function of what we talked about last quarter, right? That lag between bookings to kind of when it hits the P&L. If that's right, I mean, AI bookings have been growing quite a bit faster, right? I think 80% last quarter, 100% this quarter. That tells me AI revenue growth should continue to accelerate. Is that-- A, is that correct?
DJ Hynes: The second question, I do not know if it is for you, Mike, or Andy, but just talk a little bit more about the Google partnership, right? Like, what that could mean for the business? What are they using from you? What are they, what role does Gemini play in that? Just how do the pieces fit together, and what it could mean?
DJ Hynes: The second question, I do not know if it is for you, Mike, or Andy, but just talk a little bit more about the Google partnership, right? Like, what that could mean for the business? What are they using from you? What are they, what role does Gemini play in that? Just how do the pieces fit together, and what it could mean?
Yeah, so I'll start DJ. So thanks for the question. So yes, you're exactly right. We've been talking about Enterprise AI, bookings growing, you know, either 80% Plus for the last 3 quarters and we said, if we string together, multiple quarters like that, we'll start to see the acceleration happen. And we are starting to see that in Q4 accelerated from 41% to 50%. Now, going forward, as I mentioned earlier, there will be absent closed, but we do anticipate that if we can continue that momentum on the booking side, you know, they sit in backlog for a little bit and then they start converting into revenue and that's what's baked into our guidance. And, you know, the acceleration that we're seeing in the back half of 2026 is driven by not just AI though. Also buy a core ccas in our backlog, that's converting to revenue as well. So we're seeing momentum on both sides.
Bryan Lee: Yeah. So I'll start, DJ. So thanks for the question. So yes, you're exactly right. We've been talking about enterprise AI bookings growing, you know, either 80%+ for the last 3 quarters. And we've said if we string together multiple quarters like that, we'll start to see the acceleration happen, and we are starting to see that in Q4, where it accelerated from 41% to 50%. Now, going forward, as I mentioned earlier, there will be ebbs and flows, but we do anticipate that if we can continue that momentum on the booking side, you know, they sit in backlog for a little bit, and then they start converting into revenue, and that's what's baked into our guidance.
Bryan Lee: Yeah. So I'll start, DJ. So thanks for the question. So yes, you're exactly right. We've been talking about enterprise AI bookings growing, you know, either 80%+ for the last 3 quarters. And we've said if we string together multiple quarters like that, we'll start to see the acceleration happen, and we are starting to see that in Q4, where it accelerated from 41% to 50%. Now, going forward, as I mentioned earlier, there will be ebbs and flows, but we do anticipate that if we can continue that momentum on the booking side, you know, they sit in backlog for a little bit, and then they start converting into revenue, and that's what's baked into our guidance.
Bryan Lee: And, you know, the acceleration that we're seeing in the back half of 2026 is driven by not just AI, though also by core CCaaS in our backlog that's converting to revenue as well. So we're seeing momentum on both sides.
Bryan Lee: And, you know, the acceleration that we're seeing in the back half of 2026 is driven by not just AI, though also by core CCaaS in our backlog that's converting to revenue as well. So we're seeing momentum on both sides.
Mike Burkland: And I'll start on Google, Andy, please chime in, and I'll just give you one high level comment. DJ, thanks for the comments, too. Look, it's been a pleasure working with you and the rest of the analyst community. Look, the Google partnership, in my opinion, is something very significant for Five9. And what I love about the partnership is it was born out of success that we were having together in the market with large enterprises, and it was more than just an alignment on paper. This was driven, as I said, by success in the market that we're having with them, and that's the... In my opinion, at least, those are the kind of partnerships that really flourish in the long run. So Andy, feel free to-
Mike Burkland: And I'll start on Google, Andy, please chime in, and I'll just give you one high level comment. DJ, thanks for the comments, too. Look, it's been a pleasure working with you and the rest of the analyst community. Look, the Google partnership, in my opinion, is something very significant for Five9. And what I love about the partnership is it was born out of success that we were having together in the market with large enterprises, and it was more than just an alignment on paper. This was driven, as I said, by success in the market that we're having with them, and that's the... In my opinion, at least, those are the kind of partnerships that really flourish in the long run. So Andy, feel free to-
And I'll start on Google Annie, please chime in. And and uh, I'll just give you 1 1 high level comment DJ. Um, thanks for the comments to, uh, look, it's been a pleasure, uh, working with you and the rest of the analyst Community. Um, look, the Google partnership in my opinion, is something very significant for 59. And that what I love about the partnership is it was born out of success that we were having together in the market with large Enterprises. And it was more than just, um, an alignment on paper. This was driven as I said, by success in the market that we're having with them and that's the in my opinion, at least, those are the kind of Partnerships that really flourish long run in the long run. So Andy feel free to yeah. If I look at the technical side of it, um, you know, the solution. I mean, this is real joint solution. This is Hands-On, keyboards engineers at Google and 59 building this joint solution together. We've already had, you know, to Mike's point success. And you know, we look at the, the opportunity that, that feeling the pipeline from this coming together is, is really, really strong. And
So, you're going to obviously, it's going to be our ccas environment. We've been leveraging the Google and Gemini, uh, applications and and, and uh, foundational miles to build our own AI products. And so, we're going to continue to build out what that joint solution looks like together.
Excellent. Thank you guys.
All right, next question comes from willpower of beard. Will, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Andy Dignan: Yeah, if I look at the technical side of it, you know, the solution, I mean, this is real joint solution. This is hands-on keyboards, engineers at Google and Five9, building this joint solution together. We've already had, you know, to Mike's point, success. And, you know, we look at the opportunity that filling the pipeline from this coming together is, is really, really strong. And so you're gonna, obviously, it's gonna be our CCaaS environment. We've been leveraging the Google and Gemini applications and foundational models to build our own AI products, and so we're gonna continue to build out what that joint solution looks like together.
Andy Dignan: Yeah, if I look at the technical side of it, you know, the solution, I mean, this is real joint solution. This is hands-on keyboards, engineers at Google and Five9, building this joint solution together. We've already had, you know, to Mike's point, success. And, you know, we look at the opportunity that filling the pipeline from this coming together is, is really, really strong. And so you're gonna, obviously, it's gonna be our CCaaS environment. We've been leveraging the Google and Gemini applications and foundational models to build our own AI products, and so we're gonna continue to build out what that joint solution looks like together.
DJ Hynes: Excellent. Thank you, guys.
DJ Hynes: Excellent. Thank you, guys.
Operator: Our next question comes from Will Power of Baird. Will, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Operator: Our next question comes from Will Power of Baird. Will, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Great. Thanks. This is Yanni Samus for willpower and I'll Echo the question, the congratulations. Uh, it's a mic and a met. Um, and I'd love to hear a little bit about what you're seeing across the different verticals that you serve. You know, if you could just discuss if any of the strength in any more than others, or if there are any of the you expect to help power that second half acceleration more than others. And in particular, like for some of your bigger verticals, like your health, your vertical, or maybe consumer be great to get an update on what you're seeing and then what your factoring into the guide for 2026. Yeah, yeah. So the thanks for the question and seasonality. Um if you look at our consumer and Healthcare vertical and Q4 which are the 2 seasonally Strongest Ones typically. Now if you recall we mentioned that we were expecting minimal seasonal uptick in Q4 in reality. What happened was the the uptick was a little bit more favorable than what we were anticipating but still weaker if you compared to Q4 and 24. And if you break that down between subscription and
William Power: Great, thanks. This is Yanni Simolosa for Will Power, and I'll echo the congratulations to Mike and Amit. And I'd love to hear a little bit about what you're seeing across the different verticals that you serve. You know, if you could just discuss if any are strengthening more than others, or if there are any that you expect to help power that second half acceleration more than others. And in particular, like, for some of your bigger verticals, like your health vertical and maybe consumer. It'd be great to get an update on what you're seeing, and then what you're factoring into the guide for 2026.
William Power: Great, thanks. This is Yanni Simolosa for Will Power, and I'll echo the congratulations to Mike and Amit. And I'd love to hear a little bit about what you're seeing across the different verticals that you serve. You know, if you could just discuss if any are strengthening more than others, or if there are any that you expect to help power that second half acceleration more than others. And in particular, like, for some of your bigger verticals, like your health vertical and maybe consumer. It'd be great to get an update on what you're seeing, and then what you're factoring into the guide for 2026.
Telecom, usage, Revenue, the usage portion. Telecom, usage portion was much weaker than last year, which is why, as a percent of Revenue, you saw a step down by 1 percentage points quarter to quarter versus relying back to Q4 24. It actually stepped up.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, Yanni, so thanks for the question. Seasonality, if you look at our consumer and healthcare vertical in Q4, which are the two seasonally strongest ones, typically. Now, if you recall, we mentioned that we were expecting minimal seasonal uptick in Q4. In reality, what happened was the uptick was a little bit more favorable than what we were anticipating, but still weaker if you compare it to Q4 of 2024. And if you break that down between subscription and telecom usage revenue, the usage portion- telecom usage portion, was much weaker than last year, which is why, as a percent of revenue, you saw it step down by 1 percentage point quarter to quarter, versus going back to Q4 2024, it actually stepped up as a percent of revenue, right?
Bryan Lee: Yeah, Yanni, so thanks for the question. Seasonality, if you look at our consumer and healthcare vertical in Q4, which are the two seasonally strongest ones, typically. Now, if you recall, we mentioned that we were expecting minimal seasonal uptick in Q4. In reality, what happened was the uptick was a little bit more favorable than what we were anticipating, but still weaker if you compare it to Q4 of 2024. And if you break that down between subscription and telecom usage revenue, the usage portion- telecom usage portion, was much weaker than last year, which is why, as a percent of revenue, you saw it step down by 1 percentage point quarter to quarter, versus going back to Q4 2024, it actually stepped up as a percent of revenue, right?
Right? But these Dynamics means that in q1, the seasonal downtick that always happens in those 2 verticals. Are actually going to be a little bit more muted than what we saw a year ago. And that's exactly what's baked into our guidance. If you look at our q1 Revenue guide, the sequential change is flat this year, but if you compare that to a year ago, it was -2%, sequential the guy, right? And so going forward for the rest of 2026. And by the way, the non all the other week track 17, vertical the other 15, they're pretty much in line with typical sequential growth rates for Q4 and going throughout point 26, what we're assuming is that um the seasonality, the micro conditions are all very similar to what we saw in in the fourth quarter.
Bryan Lee: But these dynamics means that in Q1, the seasonal downtick that always happens in those two verticals, are actually going to be a little bit more muted than what we saw a year ago. And that's exactly what's baked into our guidance. If you look at our Q1 revenue guide, the sequential change is flat this year, but if you compare that to a year ago, it was negative 2% sequential guide, right? And so going forward for the rest of 2026, and by the way, the non- all the other- we track 17 verticals, the other 15, they're pretty much in line with typical sequential growth rates for Q4. And going throughout 2026, what we're assuming is that, the seasonality, the macro conditions are all very similar to what we saw in, in the fourth quarter.
Bryan Lee: But these dynamics means that in Q1, the seasonal downtick that always happens in those two verticals, are actually going to be a little bit more muted than what we saw a year ago. And that's exactly what's baked into our guidance. If you look at our Q1 revenue guide, the sequential change is flat this year, but if you compare that to a year ago, it was negative 2% sequential guide, right? And so going forward for the rest of 2026, and by the way, the non- all the other- we track 17 verticals, the other 15, they're pretty much in line with typical sequential growth rates for Q4. And going throughout 2026, what we're assuming is that, the seasonality, the macro conditions are all very similar to what we saw in, in the fourth quarter.
Form advantage that we do have Healthcare Financial Services. Just from a regulatory perspective security you know Integrations, we talk about the complexity of the ccas deployment on average, you know, we do 24 integration, you know, up to 100 Integrations at times and so I think the bar is really high for them to adopt AI. I think just shows, you know the fact that we're building true, scalable Enterprise AI Solutions. It's uh you know, it's a testament to the good stuff. The teams have built in the products.
Thank you.
All right, next question comes from Jackson. A of KeyBank, you can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask a question.
Andy Dignan: And I can add in on some of the segments. I mean, our three biggest verticals are financial services, healthcare, retail, and we're truly seeing the adoption in those spaces, right? And I think what it points to is the platform advantage that we do have. Healthcare, financial services, just from a regulatory perspective, security, you know, integration. We talk about the complexity of the CCaaS deployment. On average, you know, we do 24 integrations, you know, up to 100 integrations at times, and so I think the bar is really high for them to adopt AI. I think it just shows, you know, the fact that we're building true scalable enterprise AI solutions. It's, you know, it's a testament to the success the team's had building the products.
Andy Dignan: And I can add in on some of the segments. I mean, our three biggest verticals are financial services, healthcare, retail, and we're truly seeing the adoption in those spaces, right? And I think what it points to is the platform advantage that we do have. Healthcare, financial services, just from a regulatory perspective, security, you know, integration. We talk about the complexity of the CCaaS deployment. On average, you know, we do 24 integrations, you know, up to 100 integrations at times, and so I think the bar is really high for them to adopt AI. I think it just shows, you know, the fact that we're building true scalable enterprise AI solutions. It's, you know, it's a testament to the success the team's had building the products.
Hey guys, this is Jack Nichols on from Jackson. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could talk about new logo, large customer Pipeline and how influential 5, 9's, AI features, help land new customers. And then as a follow-up, could you talk about how AI helps, uh, dollar-based growth retention and then the Dynamics of upselling in, uh, renewal contracts.
William Power: Thank you.
William Power: Thank you.
Yeah, we feel good about our, you know, in terms of our our large deal pipeline. We feel good about, you know, the levels continuing to be strong. Um, and obviously AI is a big part of why they're choosing 59. And so, both in landing, new logos, and then, as you've heard us, talk about, you know, 10 million dollar plus deals over the last couple of quarters that are, uh, expanding their spend with us. And so, I think it's a kind of a broad across both both segments. Yeah, and I'll just say from a financial perspective for DVR, when we
Operator: Our next question comes from Jack Sennator of KeyBanc. You can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jack Sennator of KeyBanc. You can go ahead and unmute at this time and ask your question.
Jack Nichols: Hey, guys, this is Jack Nicholson for Jack Sennator. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could talk about new logo, large customer pipeline, and how influential Five9's AI features help land new customers? As a follow-up, could you talk about how AI helps dollar-based gross retention, and then the dynamics of upselling in renewal contracts?
Jack Nichols: Hey, guys, this is Jack Nicholson for Jack Sennator. Thanks for taking the question. I was wondering if you could talk about new logo, large customer pipeline, and how influential Five9's AI features help land new customers? As a follow-up, could you talk about how AI helps dollar-based gross retention, and then the dynamics of upselling in renewal contracts?
We talked about Enterprise AI, bookings doubling during the quarter. It wasn't just on the new Google site. It was um both new lows and install base. So we're seeing a lot of momentum there and that's part of what's going into the backlog and then driving that acceleration on a total revenue basis. But also from a DVR perspective, in terms of the inflection upward in the second half,
Thanks Jack.
Thank you.
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Andy Dignan: Yeah, we feel good about our, you know, in terms of our, our large deal pipeline, we feel good about, you know, the levels continuing to be strong. And obviously, AI is a big part of why they're choosing Five9. And so both in landing new logos, and then as you've heard us talk about, you know, $10 million plus deals over the last couple of quarters that are expanding their spend with us. And so I think it's kind of across both, both segments.
Andy Dignan: Yeah, we feel good about our, you know, in terms of our, our large deal pipeline, we feel good about, you know, the levels continuing to be strong. And obviously, AI is a big part of why they're choosing Five9. And so both in landing new logos, and then as you've heard us talk about, you know, $10 million plus deals over the last couple of quarters that are expanding their spend with us. And so I think it's kind of across both, both segments.
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Bryan Lee: Yeah, and I'll just say from a financial perspective for DBRR, when we talk about enterprise AI bookings doubling during the quarter, it wasn't just on the new logo side, it was both new logos and install base. So we're seeing a lot of momentum there, and that's part of what's going into the backlog and then driving that acceleration on a total revenue basis, but also from a DBRR perspective in terms of an inflection upward in the second half.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, and I'll just say from a financial perspective for DBRR, when we talk about enterprise AI bookings doubling during the quarter, it wasn't just on the new logo side, it was both new logos and install base. So we're seeing a lot of momentum there, and that's part of what's going into the backlog and then driving that acceleration on a total revenue basis, but also from a DBRR perspective in terms of an inflection upward in the second half.
How like, you know, when you're expecting to inspect in the back half, obviously that's a trailing 12-month metric but where exactly kind of are you seeing the upsell cross-sell? Is that coming through on the AI front? Um, is it corsy cast continuing to pick up pays or, you know, on-prem migrations right from Legacy kind of Cisco via. Um, and then, um, just a follow-up on the Google question. Um, are you like, is it exclusive with Gemini or using multiple models? Can you just talk about how you built your stack a little bit?
Mike Burkland: Thanks, Jack.
Mike Burkland: Thanks, Jack.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Arjun Bhatia. Arjun, you can go ahead and unmute and turn on your camera at this time.
Operator: Our next question comes from Arjun Bhatia. Arjun, you can go ahead and unmute and turn on your camera at this time.
Arjun Bhatia: All right, perfect. Thanks, guys. I had two, I guess, two quick questions. First, just on the NRR or uptick, how like, you know, when you're expecting to inflect in the back half, obviously, that's a trailing twelve-month metric, but where exactly kind of are you seeing the upsell, cross-sell? Is that coming through on the AI front? Is it core CCaaS continuing to pick up pace or, you know, on-prem migrations, right, from legacy, kind of Cisco via...? And then, just a follow-up on the Google question. Are you like, is it exclusive with Gemini? Are you using multiple models? Can you just talk about how you've built your stack a little bit?
Arjun Bhatia: All right, perfect. Thanks, guys. I had two, I guess, two quick questions. First, just on the NRR or uptick, how like, you know, when you're expecting to inflect in the back half, obviously, that's a trailing twelve-month metric, but where exactly kind of are you seeing the upsell, cross-sell? Is that coming through on the AI front? Is it core CCaaS continuing to pick up pace or, you know, on-prem migrations, right, from legacy, kind of Cisco via...? And then, just a follow-up on the Google question. Are you like, is it exclusive with Gemini? Are you using multiple models? Can you just talk about how you've built your stack a little bit?
Bryan Lee: Yeah, Arjun, I'll answer the first part of the question. So if you look at DBRR, I do wanna point out that the spot rate in Q4 actually stepped up from Q3 to Q4, and that was driven by the conversion of install-based bookings in our backlog to revenue during the quarter. So even though the last twelve months coming into the last quarter actually stepped down on around the basis from 107 to 105, which in actuality was only a little bit over one percentage point, that was more of a calculation where, you know, that's an LTM figure, like you said, right? Where it was dropping off Q4 2024, where it benefited from very strong seasonality and our largest customer finishing its multi-year ramp at that time.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, Arjun, I'll answer the first part of the question. So if you look at DBRR, I do wanna point out that the spot rate in Q4 actually stepped up from Q3 to Q4, and that was driven by the conversion of install-based bookings in our backlog to revenue during the quarter. So even though the last twelve months coming into the last quarter actually stepped down on around the basis from 107 to 105, which in actuality was only a little bit over one percentage point, that was more of a calculation where, you know, that's an LTM figure, like you said, right? Where it was dropping off Q4 2024, where it benefited from very strong seasonality and our largest customer finishing its multi-year ramp at that time.
Yeah, argenal answer the first part of the question. So if you look at dbr, I do want to point out that the spot rate in Q4 actually stepped up from 23 to Q4 and that was driven by the conversion of install based bookings in our backlog to revenue during the quarter. So even though the last 12 months coming into the last quarter, actually stepped down and around the basis for 107 to 105, which in actuality was only a little bit over 1% percentage point. That was more of a calculation where, you know, that's an LTM figure like you said, right? Where it was dropping off Q4 2424, where it benefited from very strong seasonality and our largest customer finishing is multi-year ramp at that time. So we're already going into the year with the Step Up In from Q3 to Q4. And of course, you know, it'll stabilize and fluctuate in either direction slightly, but the driver of that inflection upward is really driven by both core, ccas and AI. So we saw the momentum in Q4, we talked about the acceleration on both sides. And if you look at the backlog, yes. And
AI has been gaining significant momentum and it's a consistently been above 20% of Enterprise net, new bookings. But of course it is, it's always attached to core ccas and and a vast majority of deals and that's also sitting at our back backlog, so really the acceleration will be coming from both.
Bryan Lee: So we're already going into the year with a step up from Q3 to Q4, and of course, you know, it'll stabilize and fluctuate in either direction slightly. But the driver of that inflection upward is really driven by both core CCaaS and AI. So we saw the momentum in Q4. We've talked about the acceleration on both sides, and if you look at the backlog, yes, AI has been gaining significant momentum, and it's consistently been above 20% of enterprise net new bookings. But core CCaaS, it's always attached to core CCaaS in a vast majority of deals, and that's also sitting in the backlog. So really, the acceleration will be coming from both.
Bryan Lee: So we're already going into the year with a step up from Q3 to Q4, and of course, you know, it'll stabilize and fluctuate in either direction slightly. But the driver of that inflection upward is really driven by both core CCaaS and AI. So we saw the momentum in Q4. We've talked about the acceleration on both sides, and if you look at the backlog, yes, AI has been gaining significant momentum, and it's consistently been above 20% of enterprise net new bookings. But core CCaaS, it's always attached to core CCaaS in a vast majority of deals, and that's also sitting in the backlog. So really, the acceleration will be coming from both.
And I don't know, on the llm question the Gemini. I mean, we made a decision 7 years ago and that, that brings true. That we believe, that sort of a multiple engine multiple llm is the way to build the products. You know, we sort of saw where this was going, which is these, uh, llms are continuing to kind of 1 up each other, right? And, you know, the other thing that's really important is each 1 of them. Sometimes delivered specific capabilities, right? You could have a single use case and use multiple uh llms as part of that. Now certainly as part of the, The Joint go to market with Google, we're going to be leveraging the uh, Gemini, right? There's a lot of really strong performance. We have a team within engineering and our services teams that are constantly benchmarking these llms as well. And so I kind of we that brings us uh really to allow us to really continue to innovate, you know, on top of what's going on in the market. All right, perfect, appreciate the caller. Thanks guys. Thank you.
Andy Dignan: And on the LLM question, the Gemini, I mean, we made a decision seven years ago, and that rings true, that we believe that sort of a multiple engine, multiple LLM is the way to build the products. You know, we sort of saw where this was going, which is these LLMs are continuing to kind of one-up each other, right? You know, the other thing that's really important is each one of them sometimes deliver specific capabilities, right? You could have a single use case and use multiple LLMs as part of that. Now, certainly as part of the joint go-to-market with Google, we're gonna be leveraging the Gemini, right? There's a lot of really strong performance. We have a team within engineering and our services teams that are constantly benchmarking these LLMs as well.
Andy Dignan: And on the LLM question, the Gemini, I mean, we made a decision seven years ago, and that rings true, that we believe that sort of a multiple engine, multiple LLM is the way to build the products. You know, we sort of saw where this was going, which is these LLMs are continuing to kind of one-up each other, right? You know, the other thing that's really important is each one of them sometimes deliver specific capabilities, right? You could have a single use case and use multiple LLMs as part of that. Now, certainly as part of the joint go-to-market with Google, we're gonna be leveraging the Gemini, right? There's a lot of really strong performance. We have a team within engineering and our services teams that are constantly benchmarking these LLMs as well.
Our next question comes from Elizabeth Porter, of Morgan Stanley. You can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time. Great, thank you so much for taking the questions, and I just want to Echo the congratulations to to Mike and Ahmed. I guess the, the question from our side is like I think in the past, you guys have described kind of an AI fog among Enterprise customers, that haven't kind of lifted through 2025, and I guess, just in light of some of the Splashy announcements from the frontier Labs, or some of the upstarts in the space. You know, is that fog stays clear, as we we enter 2026, or are you seeing any sort of lengthening in sales Cycles as a result? Yeah, I'll start and Andy please chime in. Look, I
Andy Dignan: And so that brings us really to allow us to really continue to innovate, you know, on top of what's going on in the market.
Andy Dignan: And so that brings us really to allow us to really continue to innovate, you know, on top of what's going on in the market.
Arjun Bhatia: All right. Perfect. Appreciate the color. Thanks, guys.
Arjun Bhatia: All right. Perfect. Appreciate the color. Thanks, guys.
Andy Dignan: Thank you.
Andy Dignan: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Eli- Elizabeth Porter of Morgan Stanley. You can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Operator: Our next question comes from Eli- Elizabeth Porter of Morgan Stanley. You can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Elizabeth Porter: Great. Thank you, so much for taking the questions, and I just wanna echo the congratulations to, to Mike and Amit. I guess the, the question from our side is, like, I think in the past you guys have described kind of an AI fog, among enterprise customers that having kind of lifted through 2025. I guess just in light of some of the splashy announcements from the Frontier labs or some of the upstarts in the space, you know, has that fog stayed clear as we enter 2026, or are you seeing any sort of lengthening in sales cycles as a result?
Elizabeth Porter: Great. Thank you, so much for taking the questions, and I just wanna echo the congratulations to, to Mike and Amit. I guess the, the question from our side is, like, I think in the past you guys have described kind of an AI fog, among enterprise customers that having kind of lifted through 2025. I guess just in light of some of the splashy announcements from the Frontier labs or some of the upstarts in the space, you know, has that fog stayed clear as we enter 2026, or are you seeing any sort of lengthening in sales cycles as a result?
Every every company in the world is is prioritizing their AI decisions, right? And that's not going away. Um, the fog that we saw, you know, predominantly in the kind of middle of 24 is that or sorry the yeah. Wow. A while back was really just the the, the lack of Cass decision making because of that, but we still obviously, you know, every Enterprise out there is thinking about AI first and we're now part of those conversations. It's so important for us to be front and center in the CX part of those AI decisions and our sellers have become the experts. We've got solutions that uh, can we can lead with from an AI perspective. Uh, and it's a great, it's a great way for us to go to market uh, to a market that is that is
Mike Burkland: Yeah, I'll start, Andy, please chime in. Look, I think it's safe to say that every company in the world is prioritizing their AI decisions, right? And that's not going away. The fog that we saw, you know, predominantly in the kind of middle of 2024 is that. Or sorry, yeah, a while, a while back, was really just the lack of CCaaS decision making because of that. But we still obviously, you know, every enterprise out there is thinking about AI first, and we're now part of those conversations. It's so important for us to be front and center in the CX part of those AI decisions, and our sellers have become the experts.
Mike Burkland: Yeah, I'll start, Andy, please chime in. Look, I think it's safe to say that every company in the world is prioritizing their AI decisions, right? And that's not going away. The fog that we saw, you know, predominantly in the kind of middle of 2024 is that. Or sorry, yeah, a while, a while back, was really just the lack of CCaaS decision making because of that. But we still obviously, you know, every enterprise out there is thinking about AI first, and we're now part of those conversations. It's so important for us to be front and center in the CX part of those AI decisions, and our sellers have become the experts.
Calling a lot of attention around AI. Yeah. In terms of the linking of sales Cycles, I mean, you know, outside of that thought which was a lot of times customers were coming off of doing a lot of proof of Concepts, right, that weren't successful. We kind of saw that as an opportunity like Mike said to really up our game in terms of enabling our teams but really more. So very focused on having specific vertical, driven outcomes that we have, you know, we have uh customers who deploy it before and so that really kind of came through. And so that's that's allowed us to in my opinion, sort of accelerate. Um some of our sales Cycles uh both on the new logo side and obviously, you know, the install base, I have customers continuing to just buy more of our AI.
Great, thank you so much.
Mike Burkland: We've got solutions that we can lead with from an AI perspective, and it's a great way for us to go to market to a market that is pulling a lot of attention around AI.
Mike Burkland: We've got solutions that we can lead with from an AI perspective, and it's a great way for us to go to market to a market that is pulling a lot of attention around AI.
Okay, our next question comes from Gil Lura of Da Davidson go. You can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Andy Dignan: Yeah, in terms of the lengthening of sales cycles, I mean, you know, outside of that fog, which was a lot of times customers were coming off of doing a lot of proof of concepts, right, that weren't successful. We kind of saw that as an opportunity, like Mike said, to really up our game in terms of enabling our teams, but really more so very focused on having specific vertical-driven outcomes that we have. You know, we have, customers who deployed it before, and so that really kind of came through. And so that, that's allowed us to, in my opinion, sort of accelerate, some of our sales cycles, both on the new logo side and obviously, you know, the install base side, customers continuing to just buy more of our AI.
Andy Dignan: Yeah, in terms of the lengthening of sales cycles, I mean, you know, outside of that fog, which was a lot of times customers were coming off of doing a lot of proof of concepts, right, that weren't successful. We kind of saw that as an opportunity, like Mike said, to really up our game in terms of enabling our teams, but really more so very focused on having specific vertical-driven outcomes that we have. You know, we have, customers who deployed it before, and so that really kind of came through. And so that, that's allowed us to, in my opinion, sort of accelerate, some of our sales cycles, both on the new logo side and obviously, you know, the install base side, customers continuing to just buy more of our AI.
This is Clark right on for deliria, thinking about the medium-term financial framework. You already are effectively in line with all the metrics, excluding gross, margins and revenue growth. How do you think about the impact of AI adoption on Revenue growth and the inferencing costs? That that can weigh on Gross margins going forward? Yeah, so I'm happy to answer that. So if you think about, um, Enterprise AI, Revenue growth, what we've always said is that there's a significant opportunity out there, uh, we've been very successful in terms of the bookings growth rate that you've seen. And if we can continue, that is definitely upside to the revenue, uh, forecast and guidance that we have.
Elizabeth Porter: Great. Thank you so much.
Elizabeth Porter: Great. Thank you so much.
Out there and we it's it's a huge time expander for us, right? And we continue to execute very strongly there. Now, in terms of margins,
Operator: Okay. Our next question comes from Gil Luria of D.A. Davidson. Gil, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
Operator: Okay. Our next question comes from Gil Luria of D.A. Davidson. Gil, you can go ahead and unmute and ask your question at this time.
if you look at our AI agents which is the biggest part of our Enterprise AI portfolio, they actually we have gross margins in the high 70s and 80s.
and so, and that
Clark Wright: This is Clark Wrighton for Gil Luria. Thinking about the medium-term financial framework, you already are effectively in line with all the metrics, excluding gross margins and revenue growth. How do you think about the impact of AI adoption on revenue growth and the inferencing costs that can weigh on gross margins going forward?
Clark Wright: This is Clark Wrighton for Gil Luria. Thinking about the medium-term financial framework, you already are effectively in line with all the metrics, excluding gross margins and revenue growth. How do you think about the impact of AI adoption on revenue growth and the inferencing costs that can weigh on gross margins going forward?
AI portion as it becomes a bigger mix of our Revenue. We expect that to be, um, a, a, uh, a creative part of our overall, gross margin trajectory going forward.
Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, so I'm happy to answer that. So if you think about enterprise AI revenue growth, what we've always said is that there's a significant opportunity out there. We've been very successful in terms of the bookings growth rate that you've seen, and if we can continue, that is definitely upside to the revenue forecast and guidance that we have out there. And it's a huge time expander for us, right? And we continue to execute very strongly there. Now, in terms of margins, if you look at our AI agents, which is the biggest part of our enterprise AI portfolio, they actually, we have gross margins in the high 70s and 80s.
Bryan Lee: Yeah, so I'm happy to answer that. So if you think about enterprise AI revenue growth, what we've always said is that there's a significant opportunity out there. We've been very successful in terms of the bookings growth rate that you've seen, and if we can continue, that is definitely upside to the revenue forecast and guidance that we have out there. And it's a huge time expander for us, right? And we continue to execute very strongly there. Now, in terms of margins, if you look at our AI agents, which is the biggest part of our enterprise AI portfolio, they actually, we have gross margins in the high 70s and 80s.
This concludes the Q&A portion of our call, I will now hand the call back over to CEO Mike Berlin for closing remarks.
Thurman, the big correct. Um, I'm at learning CEO and and look, I just want to thank everybody for joining us. So I also want to just say uh, personally thank you to all the analysts and all our shareholders. It's been a pleasure, my pleasure, uh, to work with all of you and, uh, I'm at welcome, welcome. Welcome aboard again. Uh, I am so bullish on our future and a big part of that bullishness, is because you're here as our next CEO. So welcome, welcome. Thanks everyone. Thank you.
Bryan Lee: And so, that AI portion, as it becomes a bigger mix of our revenue, we expect that to be a accretive part of our overall gross margin trajectory going forward.
Bryan Lee: And so, that AI portion, as it becomes a bigger mix of our revenue, we expect that to be a accretive part of our overall gross margin trajectory going forward.
Clark Wright: Thank you.
Clark Wright: Thank you.
Operator: This concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I will now hand the call back over to CEO, Mike Burkland, for closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I will now hand the call back over to CEO, Mike Burkland, for closing remarks.
Mike Burkland: Chairman, to be correct, Amit is our new CEO. And look, I just wanna thank everybody for joining us. I also want to just say, personally, thank you to all the analysts and all our shareholders. It's been a pleasure, my pleasure, to work with all of you. And Amit, welcome aboard again. I am so bullish on our future, and a big part of that bullishness is because you're here as our next CEO.
Mike Burkland: Chairman, to be correct, Amit is our new CEO. And look, I just wanna thank everybody for joining us. I also want to just say, personally, thank you to all the analysts and all our shareholders. It's been a pleasure, my pleasure, to work with all of you. And Amit, welcome aboard again. I am so bullish on our future, and a big part of that bullishness is because you're here as our next CEO.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Mike Burkland: So, welcome. Welcome. Thanks, everyone.
Mike Burkland: So, welcome. Welcome. Thanks, everyone.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.
Bryan Lee: Thank you.