Q4 2025 Lincoln National Corp Earnings Call

February 12, 2026

John Muething: Thereafter today. Presenting this morning are Ellen Cooper, Chairman, President, and CEO, and Chris Neczypor, Chief Financial Officer. After their prepared remarks, we'll address your questions. Let me turn the call over to Ellen. Ellen?

Speaker #1: After today. Presenting this morning are Ellen Cooper, Chairman, President, and CEO, and Chris Neczypor, Chief Financial Officer. After their prepared remarks, we'll address your questions.

Speaker #1: Let me turn the call over to Ellen. Ellen?

Speaker #2: Thank you, John. And good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today. Our fourth quarter performance was strong, with adjusted operating income increasing 31% year over year, and our full year adjusted operating income increasing to its highest level in four years, underscoring the progress we have made as we advance our strategy with discipline and focus across Lincoln.

Ellen Cooper: Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today. Our Q4 performance was strong, with adjusted operating income increasing 31% year-over-year, and our full year adjusted operating income increasing to its highest level in 4 years, underscoring the progress we have made as we advance our strategy with discipline and focus across Lincoln. This was also our sixth consecutive quarter of year-over-year adjusted operating earnings growth, with solid performance across the business, aligned with our objective of further diversifying our mix. These results were supported by the continued advancement of our strategic realignment, operational execution, and a more resilient capital foundation. Before I walk through the quarter's highlights, I want to step back and reflect on what we have accomplished since we began this journey at the beginning of 2023.

Speaker #2: This was also our sixth consecutive quarter of year-over-year adjusted operating earnings growth, with solid performance across the business aligned with our objective of further diversifying our mix.

Speaker #2: These results were supported by the continued advancement of our strategic realignment, operational execution, and a more resilient capital foundation. Before I walk through the quarter's highlights, I want to step back and reflect on what we have accomplished since we began this journey at the beginning of 2023.

Speaker #2: Over the course of the past several years, we remained focused on executing against the strategic priorities we laid out to evolve the direction of the company with a focus on increasing our risk-adjusted return on capital reducing the volatility of our results and growing our franchise.

Ellen Cooper: Over the course of the past several years, we remained focused on executing against the strategic priorities we laid out to evolve the direction of the company, with a focus on increasing our risk-adjusted return on capital, reducing the volatility of our results, and growing our franchise. The fundamental principles of foundational capital, a more efficient operating model, and our efforts to drive profitable growth are coming through in our results with clear evidence of building broad-based momentum balanced against a strategic awareness of where more work needs to be done. With that context, I'll briefly frame our progress against the three priorities that continue to guide our strategy. Following several years of strengthening the balance sheet, our capital foundation remains durable and resilient. Capital levels remain well above our established buffer, and our leverage ratio has meaningfully improved.

Speaker #2: The fundamental principles of foundational capital—a more efficient operating model, and our efforts to drive profitable growth—are coming through in our results, with clear evidence of building broad-based momentum balanced against a strategic awareness of where more work needs to be done.

Speaker #2: With that context, I'll briefly frame our progress against the three priorities that continue to guide our strategy. Following several years of strengthening the balance sheet, our capital foundation remains durable and resilient, capital levels remain well above our established buffer, and our leverage ratio has meaningfully improved.

Speaker #2: With this foundation firmly in place, we remain focused on continuing to improve returns on capital and to manage capital with greater flexibility over time.

Ellen Cooper: With this foundation firmly in place, we remain focused on continuing to improve returns on capital and to manage capital with greater flexibility over time. We also made meaningful headway in optimizing our operating model, creating a more efficient and scalable organization. We have sustained expense discipline, combining prior firm-wide actions with continued targeted initiatives this year, and we see additional targeted opportunities ahead, while continuing to invest strategically to support our long-term priorities. We are also making operational enhancements, streamlining processes to support employee productivity and efficiency, enhancing digital and automated capabilities to better serve our customers, and evolving our distribution strategy to strengthen our go-to-market approach. Our investment strategy has been further refined, expanding our asset sourcing capabilities and leveraging our external partnerships to enhance ongoing risk-adjusted yield.

Speaker #2: We also made meaningful headway in optimizing our operating model creating a more efficient and scalable organization. We have sustained expense discipline combining prior firm-wide actions with continued targeted initiatives this year and we see additional targeted opportunities ahead while continuing to invest strategically to support our long-term priorities.

Speaker #2: We are also making operational enhancements streamlining processes to support employee productivity and efficiency enhancing digital and automated capabilities to better serve our customers and evolving our distribution strategy to strengthen our go-to-market approach.

Speaker #2: Our investment strategy has been further refined expanding our asset sourcing capabilities and leveraging our external partnerships to enhance ongoing risk-adjusted yield. The role of our Bermuda affiliate expanded over the year and we will continue to leverage it to enhance capital efficiency in support of our broader strategy.

Ellen Cooper: The role of our Bermuda affiliate expanded over the year, and we will continue to leverage it to enhance capital efficiency in support of our broader strategy. Collectively, these actions build upon the more stable foundation we have established, reinforcing more efficiency and sustainability of performance. Lastly, over the course of the year, we advanced profitable growth across the enterprise with clear progress across each business. Some businesses are further along in their strategic realignment, and their performance reflects that, while others are at earlier stages. Across the company, our emphasis is on products and segments with higher risk-adjusted margins, more stable cash flows, and greater capital efficiency to strengthen the resilience of the business over time.

Speaker #2: Collectively, these actions build upon the more stable foundation we have established reinforcing more efficiency and sustainability of performance. Lastly, over the course of the year, we advanced profitable growth across the enterprise with clear progress across each business.

Speaker #2: Some businesses are further along in their strategic realignment and their performance reflects that while others are at earlier stages. Across the company, our emphasis is on products and segments with higher risk-adjusted margins more stable cash flows and greater capital efficiency to strengthen the resilience of the business over time.

Speaker #2: The cumulative impact of these actions is translating into stronger core capital generation for the company, which in turn supports capital deployment that sharpens our competitive advantages, reinforces our strategic moat, and supports long-term free cash flow generation.

Ellen Cooper: The cumulative impact of these actions is translating into stronger core capital generation for the company, which in turn supports capital deployment that sharpens our competitive advantages, reinforces our strategic moat, and supports long-term free cash flow generation. Results may not be linear, markets can be volatile, and the economic backdrop could change, but we remain steadfast in our commitment to deliver results that drive long-term value. Our momentum continues to build, our progress is increasingly evident, and we remain focused on the path ahead. Let me turn to our businesses, where I will walk through our results and how we are positioning each to continue building on our progress in the years to come. Starting first with annuities.

Speaker #2: Results may not be linear markets can be volatile and the economic backdrop could change but we remain steadfast in our commitment to deliver results that drive long-term value.

Speaker #2: Our momentum continues to build our progress is increasingly evident and we remain focused on the path ahead. Let me turn to our businesses where I will walk through our results and how we are positioning each to continue building on our progress in the years to come.

Speaker #2: Starting first with annuities. We are a leader in this market, offering a broad set of products across RILA, fixed, and variable annuities, both with and without living benefits, enabling us to meet customers across different needs and market environments.

Ellen Cooper: We are a leader in this market, offering a broad set of products across RILA, fixed, and variable annuities, both with and without living benefits, enabling us to meet customers across different needs and market environments. Our deep, long-standing distribution relationships and consultative approach continue to broaden our reach and strengthen our position. Over the past two years, we have built important infrastructure to support this business, including our Bermuda affiliate, expanded investment platform, and enhanced product features. These capabilities support our go-to-market strategy and position our annuities business for sustained success in an evolving market. In 2025, we delivered strong annuity sales with total volumes up 25%. Approximately 2/3 of those sales came from spread-based products, consistent with our strategy to evolve toward a more balanced and less market-sensitive mix over time....

Speaker #2: Our deep, long-standing distribution relationships and consultative approach continue to broaden our reach and strengthen our position. Over the past two years, we have built important infrastructure to support this business, including our Bermuda affiliate, expanded investment platform, and enhanced product features.

Speaker #2: These capabilities support our go-to-market strategy and position our annuities business for sustained success in an evolving market. In 2025 we delivered strong annuity sales with total volumes up 25%.

Speaker #2: Approximately two-thirds of those sales came from spread-based products, consistent with our strategy to evolve toward a more balanced and less market-sensitive mix over time.

Speaker #2: Full-year RILA sales increased 35% in 2025 reflecting our differentiated product features that continue to resonate with customers. Fixed annuity sales increased 11% underpinned by the capabilities we've built to support a consistent presence.

Ellen Cooper: Full year RILA sales increased 35% in 2025, reflecting our differentiated product features that continue to resonate with customers. Fixed annuity sales increased 11%, underpinned by the capabilities we've built to support a consistent presence. Full year variable annuity sales increased 27% year-over-year, as our product offerings, coupled with the favorable market environment, supported sales growth in variable annuity with and without guaranteed living benefits. 2025 sales volumes, in part, reflected a strong market environment and customer demand. In 2026, we remain focused on balancing profitability, capital efficiency, and lower market sensitivity over time, prioritizing profitable growth over top line sales growth. I'll speak to each of our annuity product segments to provide additional context.

Speaker #2: Full-year variable annuity sales increased 27% year over year as our product offerings coupled with the favorable market environment supported sales growth in variable annuity with and without guaranteed living benefits.

Speaker #2: 2025 sales volumes in part reflected a strong market environment and customer demand. In balancing profitability, capital efficiency, and lower market sensitivity over time, we are prioritizing profitable growth over top-line sales growth.

Speaker #2: I'll speak to each of our annuity product segments to provide additional context. For variable annuities we expect 2026 volumes to be intentionally lower and more closely aligned with pre-2025 levels as part of our effort to reduce exposure to market sensitivity over time.

Ellen Cooper: For variable annuities, we expect 2026 volumes to be intentionally lower and more closely aligned with pre-2025 levels as part of our effort to reduce exposure to market sensitivity over time. In fixed annuities, we are now retaining 100% of sales following the exit of the external flow reinsurance treaty. Looking ahead, sales levels will continue to reflect market dynamics as we advance our profitable growth priorities, and we expect our fixed annuity account values to increase relative to 2025. Within the fixed annuity category, we see attractive growth opportunities in fixed indexed annuities, where differentiated crediting rate strategies and product features support our return objectives and allow us to compete beyond price. In RILAs, customer demand continues to expand alongside increasingly competitive dynamics.

Speaker #2: In fixed annuities we are now retaining 100% of sales following the exit of the external flow reinsurance treaty. Looking ahead sales levels will continue to reflect market dynamics as we advance our profitable growth priorities and we expect our fixed annuity account values to increase relative to 2025.

Speaker #2: Within the fixed annuity category we see attractive growth opportunities in fixed indexed annuities where differentiated crediting rate strategies and product features support our return objectives and allow us to compete beyond price.

Speaker #2: In RILAs customer demand continues to expand alongside increasingly competitive dynamics our approach remains anchored in disciplined target return thresholds differentiated product features and a deliberate focus on more profitable segments of this market factors that directly inform where we choose to compete.

Ellen Cooper: Our approach remains anchored in disciplined target return thresholds, differentiated product features, and a deliberate focus on more profitable segments of this market, factors that directly inform where we choose to compete. As a result, sales levels may remain broadly consistent with the past 2 to 3 years as we see greater, longer-term growth opportunity in fixed annuities relative to RILA. Importantly, our position as a leading annuity provider with a diversified set of product capabilities supported by a broad distribution footprint, gives us the flexibility to reallocate capital efficiently toward the opportunity set, offering the most attractive returns as market dynamics evolve. We also remain focused on broadening our distribution partnerships across the annuity market, aligned with a disciplined focus on segments that support higher risk-adjusted returns on capital and profitable growth.

Speaker #2: As a result sales levels may remain broadly consistent with the past two to three years as we see greater longer-term growth opportunity in fixed annuities relative to RILA.

Speaker #2: Importantly, our position as a leading annuity provider, with a diversified set of product capabilities supported by a broad distribution footprint, gives us the flexibility to reallocate capital efficiently for the opportunity set offering the most attractive returns as market dynamics evolve.

Speaker #2: We also remain focused on broadening our distribution partnerships across the annuity market aligned with a disciplined focus on segments that support higher risk-adjusted returns on capital and profitable growth.

Speaker #2: At the same time we're expanding our product offerings and continuing to build digital tools and capabilities that enhance the value we deliver to our partners particularly in areas where we see the strongest opportunities and can compete beyond price.

Ellen Cooper: At the same time, we're expanding our product offerings and continuing to build digital tools and capabilities that enhance the value we deliver to our partners, particularly in areas where we see the strongest opportunities and can compete beyond price. Taken together, these dynamics underscore a disciplined framework for allocating capital across the annuity platform toward higher risk-adjusted return opportunities, supported by product breadth, distribution strength, and prudent capital deployment. Turning to Life, we continue to make meaningful progress repositioning the business over the course of the year. Our efforts have been focused on improving the performance of the in-force block and pivoting the new business franchise toward accumulation and protection products with more balanced risk profiles that support stable cash flows. At the same time, we have advanced the modernization of our infrastructure and further optimized our distribution footprint to get closer to the point of sale.

Speaker #2: Taken together these dynamics underscore a disciplined framework for allocating capital across the annuity platform toward higher risk-adjusted return opportunities supported by product breadth distribution strength and prudent capital deployment.

Speaker #2: Turning to LIFE we continue to make meaningful progress repositioning the business over the course of the year. Our efforts have been focused on improving the performance of the in-force block and pivoting the new business franchise toward accumulation and protection products with more balanced risk profiles that support stable cash flows.

Speaker #2: At the same time, we have advanced the modernization of our infrastructure and further optimized our distribution footprint to get closer to the point of sale.

Speaker #2: The strength of our distribution platform has enabled us to deepen relationships with key partners and expand our reach into markets where we see attractive growth opportunities.

Ellen Cooper: The strength of our distribution platform has enabled us to deepen relationships with key partners and expand our reach into markets where we see attractive growth opportunities. These actions are supporting both improved financial outcomes and stronger sales momentum. For the full year, excluding the impact of our annual assumption review, earnings improved meaningfully. Sales for the year were up approximately 50% versus the prior year. Full year core life sales, which exclude executive benefits, increased 4% compared to the prior full year. It is worth noting that Q4's core life sales included some larger cases, which can vary from period to period. We expect core life sales to grow in 2026, but from a baseline more in line with the earlier quarters of 2025, as we continue to prioritize profitable growth for the business.

Speaker #2: These actions are supporting both improved financial outcomes and stronger sales momentum for the full year. Excluding the impact of our annual assumption review, earnings improved meaningfully.

Speaker #2: Sales for the year were up approximately 50% versus the prior year. Full-year core LIFE sales which exclude executive benefits increased 4% compared to the prior full year.

Speaker #2: It is worth noting that fourth quarter's core LIFE sales included some larger cases which can vary from period to period. We expect core LIFE sales to grow in 2026 but from a baseline more in line with the earlier quarters of 2025 as we continue to prioritize profitable growth for the business.

Speaker #2: Executive benefits had a record year, with sales of $265 million, up from $59 million in 2024. Reflecting the foundational investments we have made in this business, centered around product capabilities, distribution relationships, and our service model.

Ellen Cooper: Executive benefits had a record year, with sales of $265 million, up from $59 million in 2024, reflecting the foundational investments we have made in this business, centered around product capabilities, distribution relationships, and our service model. While large case activity will naturally vary, we are encouraged by the trajectory we are building in this segment and expect to have a consistent presence in this market going forward. From a franchise perspective, we continue to strengthen the new business momentum across our targeted product lines. Execution against our strategy remains focused on repositioning sales towards solutions with more favorable risk characteristics, improving the financial professional experience through digital tools and operational excellence, and expanding distribution reach through targeted product launches. Together, these efforts are reinforcing the trajectory of the life business and supporting a more consistent contribution over time.

Speaker #2: While large case activity will naturally vary, we are encouraged by the trajectory we are building in this segment and expect to have a consistent presence in this market going forward.

Speaker #2: From a franchise perspective we continue to strengthen the new business momentum across our targeted product lines execution against our strategy remains focused on repositioning sales towards solutions with more favorable risk characteristics improving the financial professional experience through digital tools and operational excellence and expanding distribution reach through targeted product launches.

Speaker #2: Together these efforts are reinforcing the trajectory of the LIFE business and supporting a more consistent contribution over time. Overall we are pleased with the progress we made in LIFE this year and where this business is positioned heading into 2026.

Ellen Cooper: Overall, we are pleased with the progress we made in Life this year and where this business is positioned heading into 2026. In Group Protection, we continued to execute effectively against a targeted strategy to deliver value across three distinct market segments: local, regional, and national, with an emphasis on the fastest-growing markets, local markets, and supplemental health. Group delivered another outstanding year, with strong earnings and premium growth and full-year sales largely in line with the prior year. Full-year earnings, excluding the impact of our annual assumption review, increased 16% year-over-year. Full-year premium growth of nearly 7% was broad-based, with growth across all products and segments, driven by strong sales and persistency, along with disciplined pricing.

Speaker #2: In Group Protection, we continue to execute effectively against a targeted strategy to deliver value across three distinct market segments: local, regional, and national, with an emphasis on the fastest-growing markets—local markets and supplemental health.

Speaker #2: Group delivered another outstanding year with strong earnings and premium growth and full-year sales largely in line with the prior year. Full-year earnings excluding the impact of our annual assumption review increased 16% year over year.

Speaker #2: Full-year premium growth of nearly 7% was broad-based with growth across all products and segments driven by strong sales and persistency along with disciplined pricing.

Speaker #2: Full-year sales as mentioned previously were roughly in line with last year's results with growth in local and regional markets and supplemental health sales increasing over 40% further diversifying the book.

Ellen Cooper: Full-year sales, as mentioned previously, were roughly in line with last year's results, with growth in local and regional markets, and supplemental health sales increasing over 40%, further diversifying the book. Overall, this strong performance reflects deliberate choices in how we are tailoring products and services by segment, supported by continued investment in the capabilities and infrastructure that support our customers to manage their benefits more effectively. As we look to 2026, we expect to build on this momentum as we continue to diversify the business, with growth increasingly driven by strong persistency and disciplined premium growth. With that context, I'll walk through how this translates across our local, regional, and national segments. In local markets, where we see the strongest margin profile, we are focused on accelerating growth by delivering bundled solutions that emphasize ease of doing business, leveraging our focused local distribution footprint.

Speaker #2: Overall, this strong performance reflects deliberate choices in how we are tailoring products and services by segment, supported by continued investment in the capabilities and infrastructure that support our customers to manage their benefits more effectively.

Speaker #2: As we look to 2026, we expect to build on this momentum as we continue to diversify the business, with growth increasingly driven by strong persistency and disciplined premium growth.

Speaker #2: With that context, I'll walk through how this translates across our local, regional, and national segments. In local markets, where we see the strongest margin profile, we are focused on accelerating growth by delivering bundled solutions that emphasize ease of doing business, leveraging our focused local distribution footprint.

Speaker #2: In regional markets, we are reinforcing stronger strategic broker partnerships and expanding our technology integrations and digital capabilities to better support employers and their benefit decisions.

Ellen Cooper: In regional markets, we are reinforcing stronger strategic broker partnerships and expanding our technology integrations and digital capabilities to better support employers and their benefit decisions. In national accounts, where clients demand robust capabilities, we are tailoring products and services enabled by our integrated technology and streamlined processes, leveraging both our market-leading leave management expertise and deep broker relationships. Across all of our segments, supplemental health remains a key priority. Across each segment, the focus remains on disciplined execution and serving customers while supporting sustainable growth over time. Overall, the fundamentals of this business remain strong, and Group is well positioned as we move forward. Turning to Retirement Plan Services. For the full year, earnings were relatively steady, with modest pressure reflecting ongoing headwinds, including participant outflows.

Speaker #2: In national accounts where clients demand robust capabilities we are tailoring products and services enabled by our integrated technology and streamlined processes leveraging both our market-leading leave management expertise and deep broker relationships.

Speaker #2: And across all of our segments, supplemental health remains a key priority. Across each segment, the focus remains on disciplined execution and serving customers while supporting sustainable growth over time.

Speaker #2: Overall, the fundamentals of this business remain strong, and the group is well positioned as we move forward. Turning to Retirement Plan Services, for the full year, earnings were relatively steady with modest pressure, reflecting ongoing headwinds including participant outflows.

Speaker #2: At the same time, we continue to see strong sales and total deposits, underscoring that our value proposition is resonating with customers and that our focus on participant outcomes is gaining traction.

Ellen Cooper: At the same time, we continue to see strong sales and total deposits, underscoring that our value proposition is resonating with customers and that our focus on participant outcomes is gaining traction. As we begin the next phase of our realignment work, our focus is on sharpening where and how we compete. We see opportunity to build on our strengths in the more profitable parts of the market, including leveraging our distribution footprint and supporting growth in higher-margin areas, such as the small market segment. Looking ahead, our priorities are centered on improving the earnings profile of the business over time by expanding revenue sources within the existing customer base, broadening products and services where customer demand is strongest, and taking targeted actions to improve operating efficiency. We also see opportunity to further optimize the investment strategy to support our stable value offerings.

Speaker #2: As we begin the next phase of our realignment work our focus is on sharpening where and how we compete. We see opportunity to build on our strengths in the more profitable parts of the market including leveraging our distribution footprint and supporting growth in higher margin areas such as the small market segment.

Speaker #2: Looking ahead our priorities are centered on improving the earnings profile of the business over time by expanding revenue sources within the existing customer base broadening products and services where customer demand is strongest and taking targeted actions to improve operating efficiency.

Speaker #2: We also see opportunity to further optimize the investment strategy to support our stable value momentum we're seeing with customers reinforces our confidence in the strategic direction and our ability to steadily improve the quality and durability of earnings in this business over time.

Ellen Cooper: While this work will take time, the momentum we're seeing with customers reinforces our confidence in the strategic direction and our ability to steadily improve the quality and durability of earnings in this business over time. Stepping back, we're pleased with the progress we've made. Today's results demonstrate disciplined execution as we continue to shape the enterprise, strengthen the earnings profile, and improve the durability of the business. At the same time, we recognize there is more work ahead. We're operating from a position of strength, which gives us the flexibility to invest where we see the greatest opportunities, while remaining disciplined in how we deploy capital across the enterprise. As we enter 2026, we do so with clarity on our priorities, momentum in our results, and confidence in what we're building. We remain focused on delivering against our objectives and continuing to build long-term shareholder value over time.

Speaker #2: Stepping back, we're pleased with the progress we've made. Today's results demonstrate disciplined execution as we continue to shape the enterprise, strengthening the earnings profile and improving the durability of the business.

Speaker #2: At the same time we recognize there is more work ahead. We're operating from a position of strength which gives us the flexibility to invest where we see the greatest opportunities while remaining disciplined in how we deploy capital across the enterprise.

Speaker #2: As we enter 2026, we do so with clarity on our priorities, momentum in our results, and confidence in what we're building. We remain focused on delivering against our objectives and continuing to build long-term shareholder value over time.

Speaker #2: With that, let me turn the call over to Chris to discuss our fourth quarter and full-year results and our outlook. Chris. Thank you, Ellen, and good morning, everyone.

Ellen Cooper: With that, let me turn the call over to Chris to discuss our fourth quarter and full-year results and our outlook. Chris?

Chris Neczypor: Thank you, Ellen, and good morning, everyone. Our Q4 results represent another quarter of strong execution and meaningful progress on our strategic priorities, delivering adjusted operating income growth for the sixth consecutive quarter. For the full year, 2025 marks our third consecutive year of growth, with each of our businesses contributing to a result that reinforces the broader momentum we have built across the enterprise. Alongside solid earnings, we continued our emphasis on free cash flow generation and capital efficiency, reinforcing Lincoln's ability to deliver attractive risk-adjusted returns and positioning the company for sustained long-term success. This morning, I'll focus on three areas. First, I'll review our Q4 and full-year results, including our segment-level financial performance. Second, I'll provide an update on our investment portfolio, and third, I'll offer an update on our capital position and our outlook.

Speaker #2: Our fourth quarter results represent another quarter of strong execution and meaningful progress on our strategic priorities delivering adjusted operating income growth for the sixth consecutive quarter.

Speaker #2: For the full year 2025, marks our third consecutive year of growth, with each of our businesses contributing to a result that reinforces the broader momentum we have built across the enterprise.

Speaker #2: Alongside solid earnings we continued our emphasis on free cash flow generation and capital efficiency reinforcing LINCOLN's ability to deliver attractive risk-adjusted returns and positioning the company for sustained long-term success.

Speaker #2: This morning I'll focus on three areas. First I'll review our fourth quarter and full-year results including our segment-level financial performance. Second I'll provide an update on our investment portfolio and third I'll offer an update on our capital position and our outlook.

Speaker #2: Let's begin with a recap of the quarter. This morning we reported fourth quarter adjusted operating income available to common stockholders of $434 million or $2.21 per diluted share.

Chris Neczypor: Let's begin with a recap of the quarter... This morning, we reported Q4 adjusted operating income available to common stockholders of $434 million or $2.21 per diluted share. There were no significant items in the quarter. Our alternative investments portfolio delivered an annualized return of nearly 12% for the quarter, or $124 million. On an after-tax basis, this was approximately $16 million above our target, or $0.08 per diluted share. Excluding the impacts of significant items in each year, full year 2025 adjusted income from operations available to common shareholders was over $1.5 billion, a 23% improvement compared to 2024.

Speaker #2: There were no significant items in the quarter. Our alternative investments portfolio delivered an annualized return of nearly 12% for the quarter, or $124 million.

Speaker #2: On an after-tax basis, this was approximately $16 million above our target, or eight cents per diluted share. Excluding the impacts of significant items in each year, full year 2025 adjusted income from operations available to common shareholders was over $1.5 billion, a 23% improvement compared to 2024.

Speaker #2: This result reflects strong execution across our businesses with year-over-year earnings growth driven by favorable underwriting experience in life and group protection continued spread expansion and the benefit of higher equity markets.

Chris Neczypor: This result reflects strong execution across our businesses, with year-over-year earnings growth driven by favorable underwriting experience in life and group protection, continued spread expansion, and the benefit of higher equity markets. Turning to net income for the quarter. We reported net income available to common stockholders of $745 million, or $3.80 per diluted share. The difference between GAAP net income and adjusted operating income was driven primarily by the positive movement in market risk benefits amid slightly favorable interest rates and modestly higher equity markets. Our hedge program continues to perform in line with expectations. Now turning to our segment results, starting with group protection. Group delivered another strong quarter, capping a record year.

Speaker #2: Turning to net income for the quarter, we reported net income available to common stockholders of $745 million, or $3.80 per diluted share. The difference between GAAP net income and adjusted operating income was driven primarily by the positive movement in market risk benefits amid slightly favorable interest rates and modestly higher equity markets.

Speaker #2: Our hedge program continues to perform in line with expectations. Now turning to our segment results, starting with Group Protection. Group delivered another strong quarter, capping a record year.

Speaker #2: Fourth quarter operating income was $109 million up from $107 million in the prior year quarter and the margin was 7.9%. The modest improvement in earnings year-over-year was driven by the disability loss ratio improving to 73.6% from 75% in the fourth quarter of 2024.

Chris Neczypor: Q4 operating income was $109 million, up from $107 million in the prior year quarter, and the margin was 7.9%. The modest improvement in earnings year-over-year was driven by the disability loss ratio, improving to 73.6% from 75% in Q4 2024. This improvement reflected favorable new claim severity, partially offset by lower recoveries and smaller average resolution amounts. As discussed last quarter, we typically experience seasonal pressure in our disability loss ratio from Q3 to Q4, and that did materialize within expectations. However, the favorable severity in our new and in-force claims more than offset the seasonal headwinds, ultimately resulting in a decreasing sequential loss ratio. Partially offsetting the improved disability result was a normalization in our group life loss ratio.

Speaker #2: This improvement reflected favorable new claim severity partially offset by lower recoveries and smaller average resolution amounts. As discussed last quarter we typically experience seasonal pressure in our disability loss ratio from the third to fourth quarter and that did materialize within expectations.

Speaker #2: However the favorable severity in our new and enforced claims more than offset the seasonal headwinds ultimately resulting in a decreasing sequential loss ratio. Partially offsetting the improved disability result was a normalization in our group life loss ratio.

Speaker #2: The fourth quarter life loss ratio of 67.9% was higher than the record low 64.7% we delivered a year ago, though it remains favorable compared to historical experience and reflects the continued benefit of our disciplined pricing actions.

Chris Neczypor: The Q4 life loss ratio of 67.9% was higher than the record low 64.7% we delivered a year ago, though it remains favorable compared to historical experience and reflects the continued benefit of our disciplined pricing actions. Touching briefly on the full year. Excluding the impact of our annual assumption review, group delivered operating earnings of $493 million, up 16% from $426 million in 2024, and the margin improved to 9% from 8.3%. The improvement was broad-based, driven by premium growth of 7%, continued favorability in both life and disability experience, and meaningful growth in our supplemental health business. As we look to 2026, we expect to sustain the momentum we have built.

Speaker #2: Touching briefly on the full year, excluding the impact of our annual assumption review, group delivered operating earnings of $493 million, up 16% from $426 million in 2024, and the margin improved to 9% from 8.3%.

Speaker #2: The improvement was broad-based driven by premium growth of 7% continued favorability in both life and disability experience and meaningful growth in our supplemental health business.

Speaker #2: As we look to 2026 we expect to sustain the momentum we have built. Two years ago we outlined an objective of achieving an 8% margin by the end of 2026.

Chris Neczypor: 2 years ago, we outlined an objective of achieving an 8% margin by the end of 2026. We have now achieved that target in each of the last 2 years, and our goal remains to continue operating at 8% or above. External factors may create some variability from quarter to quarter, but the fundamentals of this business are strong. We expect continued earnings growth, supported by disciplined execution of our strategy, including pricing discipline on new business and renewals, and diversification into higher margin market segments and products. Overall, Group's 2025 results continue to reflect the strong progress in our strategy to expand this business into a larger and more profitable part of our enterprise. Now turning to annuities. Annuities delivered operating income of $311 million for the quarter, normalizing for approximately $8 million of favorable payout annuity mortality experience.

Speaker #2: We have now achieved that target in each of the last two years and our goal remains to continue operating at 8% or above. External factors may create some variability from quarter to quarter.

Speaker #2: But the fundamentals of this business are strong. We expect continued earnings growth, supported by disciplined execution of our strategy, including pricing discipline on new business and renewals, and diversification into higher-margin market segments and products.

Speaker #2: Overall group's 2025 results continue to reflect the strong progress in our strategy to expand this business into a larger and more profitable part of our enterprise.

Speaker #2: Now turning to annuities. Annuities delivered operating income of $311 million for the quarter. Normalizing for approximately $8 million of favorable payout annuity mortality experience, underlying earnings were approximately $303 million, broadly in line with the prior-year quarter.

Chris Neczypor: Underlying earnings were approximately $303 million, broadly in line with the prior year quarter. The result reflects higher spread income and higher average account balances, partially offset by continued traditional variable annuity outflows and higher expenses associated with retaining 100% of our fixed annuity flows following the exiting of our external flow reinsurance agreement in September. The sequential expense impact of full retention was roughly $5 million in the quarter. Ending account balances, net of reinsurance, reached a record $175 billion, up 7% from the prior year quarter, with growth across all products. Turning to spreads. Spread income continued to grow, with spread-based products now representing 30% of total annuity account balances, net of reinsurance, up from 27% a year ago.

Speaker #2: The result reflects higher spread income and higher average account balances, partially offset by continued traditional variable annuity outflows and higher expenses associated with retaining 100% of our fixed annuity flows following the exiting of our external flow reinsurance agreement in September.

Speaker #2: The sequential expense impact of full retention was roughly $5 million in the quarter. Ending account balances net of reinsurance reached a record $175 billion up 7% from the prior year quarter with growth across all products.

Speaker #2: Turning to spreads, spread income continued to grow, with spread-based products now representing 30% of total annuity account balances net of reinsurance, up from 27% a year ago.

Speaker #2: RILA account balances increased 15% over the prior year quarter, representing 22% of total account balances net of reinsurance. Fixed annuity account balances increased 20% year-over-year, reflecting the first full quarter of retaining 100% of our fixed annuity sales.

Chris Neczypor: RILA account balances increased 15% over the prior year quarter, representing 22% of total account balances, net of reinsurance. Fixed annuity account balances increased 20% year-over-year, reflecting the first full quarter of retaining 100% of our fixed annuity sales. From a net flows perspective, net outflows improved year-over-year, as net flows into spread-based products exceeded $1 billion for the quarter. Variable annuity net outflows continued at a pace consistent with recent quarters, with higher equity markets contributing to higher account balances available for withdrawal. On a full year basis, annuities delivered operating earnings of approximately $1.2 billion, modestly higher than the prior year, driven primarily by higher average account balances....

Speaker #2: From a net flows perspective, net outflows improved year-over-year as net flows into spread-based products exceeded $1 billion for the quarter. Variable annuity net outflows continued at a pace consistent with recent quarters, with higher equity markets contributing to higher account balances available for withdrawal.

Speaker #2: On a full-year basis, annuities delivered operating earnings of approximately $1.2 billion, modestly higher than the prior year, driven primarily by higher average account balances.

Speaker #2: This result came despite the ongoing shift in business mix towards spread-based products, which carry a lower ROA but more stable earnings over time than traditional variable annuities.

Chris Neczypor: This result came despite the ongoing shift in business mix towards spread-based products, which carry a lower ROA, but more stable earnings over time than traditional variable annuities. The continued shift towards spread-based products, combined with the full retention of our fixed annuity economics, builds the in-force base that will support durable earnings and free cash flow generation over time. As we look to 2026, in Q1, we expect sequential pressure on earnings due to 2 fewer fee days and the resetting of favorable mortality experience from this quarter. Additionally, as part of our annual review of allocations, beginning in 2026, we will reallocate net interest income earned on collateral posted in connection with our index credit hedging strategies from annuities operating income to non-operating income. As our RILA business has grown, so have the associated collateral balances, making the related net interest income more meaningful.

Speaker #2: The continued shift towards spread-based products combined with the full retention of our fixed annuity economics builds the enforced base that will support durable earnings and free cash flow generation over time.

Speaker #2: As we look to 2026 in the first quarter we expect sequential pressure on earnings due to two fewer fee days and the resetting of favorable mortality experience from this quarter.

Speaker #2: Additionally as part of our annual review of allocations beginning in 2026 we will reallocate net interest income earned on collateral posted in connection with our index credit hedging strategies from annuities operating income to non-operating income.

Speaker #2: As our RILA business has grown, so have the associated collateral balances, making the related net interest income more meaningful. Moving this income to non-operating income provides a cleaner view of underlying annuities operating performance.

Chris Neczypor: Moving this income to non-operating income provides a cleaner view of underlying annuities operating performance. While this item can be variable over time, given the nature of the underlying collateral balances, as a frame of reference, had this reallocation been in place during 2025, it would have shifted $50 million of annuities operating income to non-operating income on an annual basis. Importantly, this is an allocation refinement. There's no change to underlying economics or free cash flow. Overall, the underlying trajectory of the business remains sound, and we remain confident in our ability to deliver stable, attractive returns over the long term. Retirement Plan Services reported operating income of $46 million for the quarter, up from $43 million in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #2: While this item can be variable over time, given the nature of the underlying collateral balances, as a frame of reference, had this reallocation been in place during 2025, it would have shifted $50 million of annuities operating income to non-operating income on an annual basis.

Speaker #2: Importantly this is an allocation refinement there's no change to underlying economics or free cash flow. Overall the underlying trajectory of the business remains sound and we remain confident in our ability to deliver stable attractive returns over the long term.

Speaker #2: Retirement plan services reported operating income of $46 million for the quarter up from $43 million in the prior year quarter. The improvement was driven by favorable equity markets and spread expansion partially offset by pressure from outflows over the past 12 months and higher expenses.

Chris Neczypor: The improvement was driven by favorable equity markets and spread expansion, partially offset by pressure from outflows over the past twelve months and higher expenses. Account balances benefited from equity market performance, with average balances increasing nearly 9% year-over-year to $124 billion. Base spreads were 110 basis points, up from 101 basis points in the prior year quarter. The expansion reflects the benefit of deploying new money at rates above the existing portfolio yield. Net outflows totaled approximately $1 billion for the quarter, primarily driven by participant withdrawals and pressured by known planned terminations, the majority of which were not meeting our profitability targets. We remain focused on retaining profitable business and maintaining pricing discipline on both new and recurring business. Turning to full year results.

Speaker #2: Account balances benefited from equity market performance, with average balances increasing nearly 9% year-over-year to $124 billion. Base spreads were 110 basis points, up from 101 basis points in the prior-year quarter.

Speaker #2: The expansion reflects the benefit of deploying new money at rates above the existing portfolio yield. Net outflows totaled approximately $1 billion for the quarter primarily driven by participant withdrawals and pressured by known plan terminations the majority of which were not meeting our profitability targets.

Speaker #2: We remain focused on retaining profitable business and maintaining pricing discipline on both new and recurring business. Turning to full-year results, Retirement Plan Services delivered operating earnings of $163 million, flat compared to the prior year.

Chris Neczypor: Retirement Plan Services delivered operating earnings of $163 million, flat compared to the prior year. While outflows earlier in the year created headwinds, these were largely offset by favorable equity markets and spread expansion. As we look to 2026, we expect net flows to remain negative as we continue to prioritize profitability over retention of business that does not meet our return targets. We see opportunity to improve returns through targeted expense efficiency actions and investment portfolio optimization, and we remain confident in our ability to deliver sustainable earnings growth in this business over time. Lastly, turning to life insurance. Life delivered operating earnings of $77 million for the quarter, a meaningful improvement compared to an operating loss of $15 million in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #2: While outflows earlier in the year created headwinds, these were largely offset by favorable equity markets and spread expansion. As we look to 2026, we expect net flows to remain negative as we continue to prioritize profitability over retention of business that does not meet our return targets.

Speaker #2: We see opportunity to improve returns through targeted expense efficiency actions and investment portfolio optimization and we remain confident in our ability to deliver sustainable earnings growth in this business over time.

Speaker #2: Lastly turning to life insurance. Life delivered operating earnings of $77 million for the quarter a meaningful improvement compared to an operating loss of $15 million in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #2: The improvement was broad-based driven by improved mortality higher alternative investment returns and the execution of our captive consolidation. Mortality results for the quarter were in line with our expectations.

Chris Neczypor: The improvement was broad-based, driven by improved mortality, higher alternative investment returns, and the execution of our captive consolidation. Mortality results for the quarter were in line with our expectations. You may recall that the Q4 of 2024 was pressured by elevated mortality, driven by an outsized impact from severity in our universal life block. We saw that dynamic normalize this quarter, which was the primary driver of the year-over-year improvement. Turning to expenses. Despite stronger sales and higher variable compensation in the quarter, the actions we have taken over the course of the year allowed us to hold expenses flat year-over-year. Maintaining expense discipline remains critical to supporting earnings improvement in this business.

Speaker #2: You may recall that the fourth quarter of 2024 was pressured by elevated mortality, driven by an outsized impact from severity in our universal life block.

Speaker #2: We saw that dynamic normalize this quarter which was the primary driver of the year-over-year improvement. Turning to expenses. Despite stronger sales and higher variable compensation in the quarter the actions we have taken over the course of the year allowed us to hold expenses flat year-over-year.

Speaker #2: Maintaining expense discipline remains critical to supporting earnings improvement in this business. Touching briefly on the full year excluding the impact of our annual assumption review life delivered operating earnings of $146 million compared to an operating loss of $71 million in the prior year an improvement of over $200 million the improvement was driven primarily by favorable mortality compared to unfavorable mortality in 2024 higher alternative investment returns and the expense discipline we have maintained throughout the year.

Chris Neczypor: Touching briefly on the full year, excluding the impact of our annual assumption review, Life delivered operating earnings of $146 million compared to an operating loss of $71 million in the prior year, an improvement of over $200 million. The improvement was driven primarily by favorable mortality compared to unfavorable mortality in 2024, higher alternative investment returns, and the expense discipline we have maintained throughout the year. These results reflect the ongoing progress we have made in stabilizing and improving the trajectory of this business. As we look to 2026, we expect continued progress. As a reminder, Q1 is typically our lowest earnings quarter for Life, reflecting unfavorable mortality seasonality and a step down from the higher fee income we earn in Q4. You'll see these seasonal patterns outlined in our earnings supplement.

Speaker #2: These results reflect the ongoing progress we have made in stabilizing and improving the trajectory of this business. As we look to 2026 we expect continued progress.

Speaker #2: As a reminder the first quarter is typically our lowest earnings quarter for life reflecting unfavorable mortality seasonality and a step down from the higher fee income we earn in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: You'll see these seasonal patterns outlined in our earnings supplement. Beyond those near-term dynamics we are focused on rebuilding sales momentum with an emphasis on products that generate more stable cash flows and attractive risk-adjusted returns.

Chris Neczypor: Beyond those near-term dynamics, we are focused on rebuilding sales momentum with an emphasis on products that generate more stable cash flows and attractive risk-adjusted returns. We will continue to optimize the free cash flow profile of this business by remaining disciplined on expenses, optimizing the investment portfolio, and the potential for external risk transfer. We are confident in the trajectory of this business as we continue working towards positive underlying free cash flow. Turning now to expenses. As we signaled last quarter, fourth quarter GNA expenses increased both sequentially and year over year. The sequential increase was primarily driven by higher variable compensation, reflecting the strong sales volumes we achieved during the quarter.

Speaker #2: And we will continue to optimize the free cash flow profile of this business by remaining disciplined on expenses, optimizing the investment portfolio, and the potential for external risk transfer.

Speaker #2: We are confident in the trajectory of this business as we continue working toward positive underlying free cash flow. Turning now to expenses. As we signaled last quarter fourth quarter G&A expenses increased both sequentially and year-over-year.

Speaker #2: The sequential increase was primarily driven by higher variable compensation reflecting the strong sales volumes we achieved during the quarter. On a year-over-year basis the increase also reflects continued investments in our businesses including an annuities where we are now fully retaining our fixed annuity flows and in-group protection where we continue to execute on our technology roadmap including modernizing our claims platform.

Chris Neczypor: On a year-over-year basis, the increase also reflects continued investments in our businesses, including in annuities, where we are now fully retaining our fixed annuity flows, and in group protection, where we continue to execute on our technology roadmap, including modernizing our claims platform... Looking ahead, expense discipline remains a strategic priority across the organization. We have made meaningful progress over the past two years, and we see continued opportunity to drive efficiency as we advance our transformation. This includes ongoing focus on organizational simplification, leveraging technology to improve productivity, and ensuring our expense base is appropriately sized to support our strategic objectives. We are committed to maintaining a disciplined approach to expenses, balancing the investments needed to drive growth with a relentless focus on operational efficiency. This will remain a critical area of focus in 2026 and beyond. Turning to investments.

Speaker #2: Looking ahead expense discipline remains a strategic priority across the organization. We have made meaningful progress over the past two years and we see continued opportunity to drive efficiency as we advance our transformation.

Speaker #2: This includes ongoing focus on organizational simplification leveraging technology to improve productivity and ensuring our expense bases appropriately sized to support our strategic objectives. We are committed to maintaining a disciplined approach to expenses balancing the investments needed to drive growth with a relentless focus on operational efficiency.

Speaker #2: This will remain a critical area of focus in 2026 and beyond. Turning to investments. Our investment portfolio delivered solid results in the fourth quarter reflecting disciplined management and continued execution of our strategic asset allocation initiatives.

Chris Neczypor: Our investment portfolio delivered solid results in Q4, reflecting disciplined management and continued execution of our strategic asset allocation initiatives. Portfolio credit quality remains strong, with 97% of investments rated investment grade, and below investment grade exposure near historic lows. Overall credit performance for the full year was solid. New money was invested at a yield of 5.3% for the quarter, approximately 65 basis points above the portfolio yield. For the full year, new money yields averaged 5.7%, approximately 110 basis points above the portfolio yield. Alternative investments generated a return of 3% for the quarter, or 12% annualized, above our target of 10%. For the full year, alternative returns of approximately 10% were in line with our annual return target.

Speaker #2: Portfolio credit quality remains strong with 97% of investments rated investment grade and below investment grade exposure near historic lows. Overall credit performance for the full year was solid.

Speaker #2: New money was invested at a yield of 5.3% for the quarter approximately $65 basis points above the portfolio yield. For the full year new money yields averaged 5.7% approximately 110 basis points above the portfolio yield.

Speaker #2: Alternative investments generated a return of 3% for the quarter, or 12% annualized, above our target of 10%. For the full year, alternative returns of approximately 10% were in line with our annual return target.

Speaker #2: We continue to make progress on our general account optimization efforts executing on new money strategies across a variety of asset classes to support our spread-based growth initiatives.

Chris Neczypor: We continue to make progress on our general account optimization efforts, executing on new money strategies across a variety of asset classes to support our spread-based growth initiatives. These efforts remain an important component of our broader strategy to enhance investment returns and support product competitiveness. Before turning to the outlook, I wanted to highlight three capital actions that occurred in Q4. First, we completed the consolidation of several life insurance captive entities. This simplifies our legal entity structure, reduces reserve financing costs, and supports improved free cash flow within the life business. Second, we received a $75 million dividend from Alpine, our Bermuda-based affiliated reinsurance entity, demonstrating its strong capitalization and profitability. We expect Alpine's contribution to grow as we expand its role across additional products.

Speaker #2: These efforts remain an important component of our broader strategy to enhance investment returns and support product competitiveness. Before turning to the outlook I wanted to highlight three capital actions that occurred in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: First we completed the consolidation of several life insurance captive entities. This simplifies our legal entity structure reduces reserve financing costs and supports improved free cash flow within the life business.

Speaker #2: Second we received the $75 million dividend from Alpine our Bermuda-based affiliated reinsurance entity demonstrating its strong capitalization and profitability. We expect Alpine's contribution to grow as we expand its role across additional products.

Speaker #2: Third holding company liquidity ended the year at approximately $1.1 billion which includes $400 million of pre-funding for our senior notes maturing in December 2026.

Chris Neczypor: Third, holding company liquidity ended the year at approximately $1.1 billion, which includes $400 million of pre-funding for our senior notes maturing in December 2026. Net of pre-funding, holding company liquidity is approximately $655 million, above our historical $400 to $500 million operating range. With the debt maturity later this year, the preferred security is becoming redeemable in 2027, and as we move closer to increasing capital return to shareholders, this increased liquidity provides the financial flexibility to act on multiple fronts over the next few years, reflecting the progress we've made in strengthening cash flow to the holding company and positioning us well to execute on the capital priorities ahead. Lastly, I'd like to provide an update on our financial outlook.

Speaker #2: Net of pre-funding holding company liquidity is approximately $655 million above our historical $400 to $500 million operating range. With a debt maturity later this year the preferred securities becoming redeemable in 2027 and as we move closer to increasing capital return to shareholders this increased liquidity provides the financial flexibility to act on multiple fronts over the next few years reflecting the progress we've made in strengthening cash flow to the holding company and positioning us well to execute on the capital priorities ahead.

Speaker #2: Lastly I'd like to provide an update on our financial outlook. We began this journey in 2023 with a focus on fortifying the balance sheet transforming the company to one with a more balanced mix of earnings and profitably growing.

Chris Neczypor: We began this journey in 2023 with a focus on fortifying the balance sheet, transforming the company to one with a more balanced mix of earnings and profitably growing. Over the past few years, we have made considerable progress on these efforts, building momentum that positions us well against the goals we set out at the end of 2023. We have provided a number of updates in the Outlook section of the investor supplement released this morning that help to frame the progress we've made, as well as some goals over the medium term, which we defined in the supplement as potential ranges over the next two years. Stepping back, what is clear is that our business mix is evolving, with Group Protection now approximately 25% of business unit earnings, up from 18% in 2023.

Speaker #2: Over the past few years we have made considerable progress on these efforts building momentum that positions us well against the goals we set out at the end of 2023.

Speaker #2: We have provided a number of updates in the outlook section of the investor supplement released this morning that helped to frame the progress we've made as well as some goals over the medium term which we defined in the supplement as potential ranges over the next two years.

Speaker #2: Stepping back, what is clear is that our business mix is evolving, with Group Protection now approximately 25% of business unit earnings, up from 18% in 2023.

Speaker #2: Spread-based annuity account balances net of reinsurance are now 30% up from 25% in 2023 and our life business is showing considerable momentum in pivoting their franchise to a product set with more stable cash flows and increased risk sharing.

Chris Neczypor: Spread-based annuity account balances, net of reinsurance, are now 30%, up from 25% in 2023, and our life business is showing considerable momentum in pivoting the franchise to a product set with more stable cash flows and increased risk sharing. Additionally, as you can see on slide 14, we're ahead of schedule on delivering on our financial commitments. From a balance sheet perspective, we restored capital to levels above our 400% target, built a 20-point risk buffer on top of that target, and ended last year well in excess of that buffer. With that growth in capital, our leverage ratio has declined 500 basis points since the end of 2023 and is now back at our long-term target, providing greater financial flexibility and capital support for the future.

Speaker #2: Additionally as you can see on slide 14 we're ahead of schedule on delivering on our financial commitments. From a balance sheet perspective we restored capital to levels above our $400% target built a $20-point risk buffer on top of that target and ended last year well in excess of that buffer.

Speaker #2: With that growth in capital our leverage ratio has declined 500 basis points since the end of 2023 and is now greater financial flexibility and capital support for the future.

Speaker #2: At the same time that we've been pivoting our mix and strengthening our balance sheet we've been growing both our earnings base as well as our ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow.

Chris Neczypor: At the same time that we've been pivoting our mix and strengthening our balance sheet, we've been growing both our earnings base as well as our ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow. In 2023, our adjusted operating income was $908 million, and we converted 35% of those earnings into free cash flow. Last year, our adjusted operating income grew to over $1.5 billion or 69% higher than in 2023. Importantly, at the same time as our earnings base was growing, so was our ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow with a 2025 conversion ratio of 45%, or 10 points higher than 2023. So over the last few years, we've made progress on shifting our mix to more capital efficient and less volatile businesses.

Speaker #2: In 2023 our adjusted operating income was $908 million and we converted 35% of those earnings into free cash flow. Last year our adjusted operating income grew to over $1.5 billion or 69% higher than in 2023.

Speaker #2: Importantly, at the same time as our earnings base was growing, so was our ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow, with a 2025 conversion ratio of 45%, or 10 points higher than 2023.

Speaker #2: So over the last few years we've made progress on shifting our mix to more capital efficient and less volatile businesses we've rebuilt our capital to levels well in excess of our targets and we've grown both our earnings base and importantly our ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow.

Chris Neczypor: We've rebuilt our capital to levels well in excess of our targets, and we've grown both our earnings base and, importantly, our ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow. As we think about the next few years, we would expect the momentum to continue as we leverage our foundation to profitably grow our franchise, maximize value, and increase free cash flow. We have a number of levers available to support us on this journey, as shown on slide 15.... For example, we'll continue to focus on our operating model, with targeted actions on expense efficiency and continued optimization of our investment strategies. We'll also continue to evaluate the potential for external and affiliate reinsurance transactions with a diligent focus on reducing risk and generating economic value.

Speaker #2: As we think about the next few years we would expect the momentum to continue as we leverage our foundation to profitably grow our franchise maximize value and increase free cash flow.

Speaker #2: We have a number of levers available to support us on this journey as shown on slide 15. For example we'll continue to focus on our operating model with targeted actions on expense efficiency and continued optimization of our investment strategies.

Speaker #2: We'll also continue to evaluate the potential for external and affiliate reinsurance transactions with a diligent focus on reducing risk and generating economic value. And lastly we'll continue to strategically grow in products and businesses where we can achieve attractive risk-adjusted returns while shifting our capital allocation should market or competitive dynamics change.

Chris Neczypor: Lastly, we'll continue to strategically grow in products and businesses where we can achieve attractive risk-adjusted returns while shifting our capital allocation should market or competitive dynamics change. When we look out over the next 2 years, the culmination of these efforts should translate into continued growth in capital generation and free cash flow, which should in turn lead to higher dividends from the operating entities to the holding company, as shown on slide 18. As this excess capital builds at the holding company, we would eventually then be in a position to increase capital return to shareholders. We continue to see a clear path of opportunity ahead. With a leverageable foundation in place, an increasingly optimized operating model, and disciplined strategic capital allocation, we are positioning Lincoln for durable value creation in the years ahead.

Speaker #2: When we look out over the next two years the culmination of these efforts should translate into continued growth in capital generation and free cash flow which should in turn lead to higher dividends from the operating entities to the holding company as shown on slide 18.

Speaker #2: As this excess capital builds at the holding company we would eventually then be in a position to increase capital return to shareholders. We continue to see a clear path of opportunity ahead.

Speaker #2: With a leverageable foundation in place and increasingly optimized operating model and disciplined strategic capital allocation we are positioning LINCON for durable value creation in the years ahead.

Speaker #2: We thank everyone for listening and with that I'll turn it back to the operator.

Chris Neczypor: We thank everyone for listening, and with that, I'll turn it back to the operator.

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Speaker #3: Hey good morning. So Chris first wanted to touch on capital return. if if I look at your medium-term guidance it's for $400 to $600 million plus of capital return to shareholders.

Joel Hurwitz: Hey, good morning. So Chris, first, wanted to touch on capital return. If I look at your medium-term guidance, it's for $400 to 600 million plus of capital return to shareholders. Just, given the dividend should be around $350 million this year, is that implying at least $50 million of buybacks in 2026? Just wanna make sure I'm thinking about that correctly.

Speaker #3: ju+just given the dividend should be around $350 million this year. Is that implying at least $50 million of buybacks in '26? Just wanna make sure I'm thinking about that correctly.

Speaker #4: Hey good morning Joel. so thanks for the question. I think what I would say is when you look at the way that we've presented the information in the outlook we're really talking about a potential range over the next two years.

Chris Neczypor: Hey, good morning, Joel. So thanks for the question. I think what I would say is, when you look at the way that we've presented the information in the outlook, we're really talking about a potential range over the next two years. And so, you know, if you think about our capital deployment priorities, the, you know, first priority hasn't changed. And, you know, frankly, we're gonna continue to hold a buffer capital in our operating entities, and we'll continue to invest, you know, incremental free cash flow that we generate, where we see opportunities. That said, our free cash flow continues to improve. You can see that we've moved, you know, more of the free cash flow that we generated this year to the holding company. That's a good sign. It's something you would expect.

Speaker #4: and so you know if you think about our capital deployment priorities the you know first priority hasn't changed. And you know frankly we're gonna continue to hold a buffer capital in our operating entities and we'll continue to invest you know incremental free cash flow that we generate where we see opportunities.

Speaker #4: that said our free cash flow continues to improve you can see that we've moved you know more of the free cash flow that we generated this year to the holding company.

Speaker #4: That's a good sign. It's something you would expect. but you know the the point is the first priority will continue to be to maintain an excess within our operating companies and invest where we see you know attractive returns.

Chris Neczypor: But, you know, the point is, the first priority will continue to be to maintain an excess within our operating companies and invest where we see, you know, attractive returns. The second priority, you know, continues also to be the same, which is we're preparing for the optimal way to deal with the preferred when it's redeemable next year. You know, as you move more capital to the holding company, that gives you more flexibility, and at the same time, with our leverage ratio back to where it is, you know, we've got some more flexibility as to how we think about it. So we're still working through, you know, what the optimal way to handle the preferred will be. You know, I would imagine we would continue to study that over the course of this year.

Speaker #4: the second priority you know continues also to be the same which is we're preparing for the optimal way to deal with the preferred when it's redeemable next year.

Speaker #4: You know, as you move more capital to the holding company, that gives you more flexibility. And at the same time, with our leverage ratio back to where it is, you know we've got some more flexibility as to how we think about it.

Speaker #4: So, we're still working through, you know, what the optimal way to handle the preferred will be. You know, I would imagine we would continue to study that over the course of this year.

Speaker #4: and then when you think about the fact that even on top of that we've built the excess capital and the buffer in L&L and you know Alpine and so forth.

Chris Neczypor: And then when you think about the fact that even on top of that, we've built the excess capital and the buffer in LNL and, you know, Alpine and so forth, we're moving more capital to the holding company. As we deal with the preferred, we will still be in a position where we're generating a significant free cash flow and excess capital, and our priority would then be to increase the capital return to shareholders. So we're not going to give you a, you know, 2026 versus 2027, but, you know, the good news is, all of the signs that would support increasing capital return to shareholders continue to move in the right direction.

Speaker #4: We're moving more capital to the holding company as we deal with the preferred. We will still be in a position where we're generating a significant free cash flow and excess capital.

Speaker #4: And our priority would then to be be to increase the capital return to shareholders. So we're not going to give you a you know 2026 versus 2027.

Speaker #4: But you know, the good news is all of the signs that would support increasing capital return to shareholders continue to move in the right direction.

Speaker #3: Got it. That that's helpful. I I guess just sticking on on capital if I take the the remittances in that medium-term outlook less the the holding company expenses right that's that implies like eight to nine hundred million of excess cash.

Joel Hurwitz: Got it. That, that's helpful. I guess, just sticking on capital, if I take the remittances in that medium-term outlook, less the holding company expenses, right? That implies like $800 to 900 million of excess cash. Should I just take that versus the capital return as sort of largely for the to manage the preferreds and the calls next year? Or is there any other potential uses of that capital at the holding company?

Speaker #3: I+I should I just take that versus the the capital return is sort of largely for the to manage the preferreds and the calls next year or is there any other potential uses of that capital at the the holding company?

Speaker #4: No I I I think that's right. If you're in you know if your free cash flow at its simplest form assuming that you're moving all of the excess capital that you're generating in the year up to the holding company you know that would be the difference between you know those two items.

Chris Neczypor: No, I think that's right. If you're in, you know, if your free cash flow, at its simplest form, assuming that you're moving all of the excess capital that you're generating in the year up to the holding company, you know, that would be the difference between, you know, those two items, your remittances and, you know, your expenses at the hold co, which you could think about as your debt interest, your preferred coupon, plus or minus any, you know, NII you might earn. But the sum of those two, you know, you should think about under those constraints as being your free cash flow. And then as we build cash, and think about deploying it, you know, for the preferred in 2027, you know, the other usage of it would be increasing capital return to shareholders.

Speaker #4: Your remittances and you know your expenses at the hold co which you could think about as your debt interest your preferred coupon plus or minus any you know NII you might earn.

Speaker #4: But the the some of those two you know y+you should think about under those constraints as being your free cash flow. And then as we build cash and think about deploying it you know for the preferred in 2027 you know the other usage of it would be increasing capital return to shareholders.

Speaker #3: Awesome. Thank you.

Joel Hurwitz: Awesome. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Here, our next question comes from the line of Tom Gallagher with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tom Gallagher with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Good morning. yeah appreciate slide eighteen. I think that clarifies a lot in terms of where the cash flow's going in terms of the components.

Tom Gallagher: Good morning. Yeah, appreciate slide 18. I think that clarifies a lot in terms of where the cash flow is going, in terms of the components. So Chris, is the best way to think about this? I heard what you were saying about the pref, and that makes a lot of sense over the next few years. But if the $1.2 billion of sub-remittances is a number that's probably gonna grow somewhat, and then assuming you either refinance or pay down the pref, then we'd be looking at a lower hold co interest expense bogey heading into, call it, 2028, 2029. So we're looking at, when I think about where this is going, and I'm not asking for specific numbers, I want to make sure I'm understanding conceptually where this is going.

Speaker #5: so Chris is the best way to think about this I I heard what you were saying about the press and that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker #5: Over the next few years but if the one point two billion of sub-remittances is a number that's probably gonna grow somewhat and then assuming you either refinance or pay down the press then we'd be looking at a lower hold co interest expense bogey heading into call it twenty-eight twenty-nine.

Speaker #5: So we looking at when I think about where this is going and I'm not asking for a specific numbers. I wanna make sure I'm understanding conceptually where this is going.

Speaker #5: You know you probably have something better than one point two five billion coming in for remittances. And you'll have a lower hold co bogey assuming your interest expenses go down.

Tom Gallagher: You know, you probably have something better than $1.25 billion coming in for remittances, and you'll have a lower holdco bogey, assuming your interest expenses go down. And then, you know, we could be talking about something north of $1 billion of the amount that's available annually for shareholders, unless there's some other component to it that I'm missing. Does that, does that all line up, or, or are there other pieces here to consider?

Speaker #5: And then you know we could be talking about something north of a billion dollars of the amount that's available annually for shareholders. Unless there's some other component to it that I'm missing.

Speaker #5: Does that does that all line up or or are there other pieces here to consider?

Speaker #3: Tom if you're looking for twenty twenty-eight and twenty twenty-nine guidance I'll have to get back to you. But that being said yeah I mean if you think about the fact that you redeem and whether you redeem with all capital or you refinance a piece of it etcetera etcetera that'll be a twenty twenty-seven event which exactly to your point you know there's a ninety million dollar coupon associated with that.

Chris Neczypor: Tom, if you're looking for 2028 and 2029 guidance, I'll have to get back to you. But that being said, yeah, I mean, if you think about the fact that you redeem, and whether you redeem with all capital or you refinance a piece of it, et cetera, et cetera, that'll be a 2027 event, which, exactly to your point, you know, there's a $90 million coupon associated with that. So then starting in 2028, your holding company net expense would come down. I would expect over time, as we continue to execute on all the things we've been talking about, really thinking about the longer term, you know, after the 2-year sort of range that we give here, you would expect remittances to grow.

Speaker #3: So then, starting in 2028, your holding company net expense would come down. I would expect, over time, as we continue to execute on all the things we've been talking about—really thinking about the longer term, you know, after the two-year sort of range that we give here—you would expect remittances to grow.

Chris Neczypor: But, you know, we're focused right now on 26 and 27, but I think the way conceptually you're thinking about over the long term are the right drivers.

Speaker #3: but you know we're we're focused right now on twenty-six and twenty-seven. But I think the way conceptually you're thinking about over the long term are the right drivers.

Chris Neczypor: But, you know, we're focused right now on 26 and 27, but I think the way conceptually you're thinking about over the long term are the right drivers.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thanks for that. and then my follow-up I guess just a question on on this redefinition of NII. I heard what you said about the hedging what what kind of prompted that change?

Tom Gallagher: Okay. Thanks for that. And then my follow-up, I guess just a question on, on this redefinition of NII. I heard what you said about the hedging. What kind of prompted that change? Is it just that RILA is becoming larger and it's like a materiality issue, and you looked at what the way peers are treating this? And I presume also, since you're redefining earnings a bit lower on an apples to apples basis, that would at the margin, make your free cash flow conversion better, all things equal.

Speaker #5: Is it just that Riley's becoming larger and it and it's like a materiality issue and you looked at what the way peers are treating this?

Speaker #5: and I presume also since you're redefining earnings a bit lower on an apples-to-apples basis that would pr at the margin make your free cash flow conversion better all things equal.

Speaker #3: So, on that last point, yes. But I think that's just definitional, right? I mean, we're focused on the absolute dollars of free cash flow when you're comparing it to the GAAP number.

Chris Neczypor: So, on that last point, yes, but I think that's just definitional, right? I mean, we're focused on the absolute dollars of free cash flow. When you're comparing it to the GAAP number, yes, that would have a slight positive to it, but, you know, that's just, call it optics. I think at the end of the day, you know, every year, we look at allocations. There's another component which we show in the back, where, you know, you look at your operating expenses, and depending on how some of the drivers move, there's corporate overhead allocations and things like that, you know, where the allocated expenses to the businesses might move around. But that'll net to zero for an operating income perspective. On this specific issue, yeah, that's exactly right. As RILA has grown over time, there's a component.

Speaker #3: Yes that would have a slight positive to it. But you know that's just call it optics. I think at the end of the day you know every year we look at allocations.

Speaker #3: There's another component which we show in the back, where you look at your operating expenses, and depending on how some of the drivers move, there's corporate overhead allocations and things like that.

Speaker #3: You know where the allocated expenses to the businesses might move around, but that'll net to zero from an operating income perspective. On this specific issue, yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker #3: A+as Riley has grown over time there's a component mo the majority of the of the investment income and/or expense related to the collateral is in non-operating.

Chris Neczypor: Most of the investment income and/or expense related to the collateral is in non-operating, and there was a piece of it that we had looked at, that, you know, was more specific when we went through how to think about 2026. And, you know, as we've committed to, we're trying to be transparent and, you know, give all of the, you know, clarity as it relates to how we think about the operating income, and this was just a, you know, a natural part of that. But you do this every year, you look at the different pieces. What I would tell you is it wasn't a big driver year over year as it relates to growth for 25. So, you know, I think the annuities growth number wasn't significantly impacted.

Speaker #3: And there was a piece of it that we had looked at that you know was more specific when we went through how to think about twenty twenty-six.

Speaker #3: And you know as as we've committed to we're trying to be transparent and you know give all of the you know clarity as it relates to how we think about the operating income.

Speaker #3: And this was just a you know a natural part of that. You you do this every year. You look at the different pieces what I would tell you is it wasn't a big driver year over year as it relates to growth for twenty-five.

Speaker #3: So you know I think the annuities growth number wasn't significantly impacted. But as you look out you know over the longer term and you think about some of the things that we've talked about wanting to do around giving more explicit spread margin information for annuities you wanna be able to provide the cleanest view possible as it relates to NII and interest credit and so forth.

Chris Neczypor: But as you look out, you know, over the longer term and you think about some of the things that we've talked about wanting to do around giving more explicit, spread margin information for annuities, you want to be able to provide the cleanest view possible as it relates to NII and interest credit and so forth.

Speaker #5: Gotcha. Thank you.

Tom Gallagher: Gotcha. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Here, our next question comes from the line of Wes Carmichael with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Wes Carmichael with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Hey good morning. My first question was on the life insurance business. Chris I think you mentioned some captive consolidation and redu reducing reserve financing costs.

Wes Carmichael: Hey, good morning. My first question was on the life insurance business. Chris, I think you mentioned some captive consolidation and reducing reserve financing costs. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about those actions you've taken, if there's more to do there, and the impact on earnings and free cash flow.

Speaker #4: Just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about those actions you've taken if there's more to do there and the impact on earnings and free cash flow.

Speaker #5: Sure. good morning Wes. So you know I we we alluded to this last year. but if you step back you know the other the the bigger picture comment here is you know we've been doing a lot over the past couple of years to improve the free cash flow profile of the of the legacy life block.

Chris Neczypor: Sure. Good morning, Wes. So, you know, we alluded to this last year, but if you step back, you know, the bigger picture comment here is, you know, we've been doing a lot over the past couple of years to improve the free cash flow profile of the legacy life block. And so, you know, we've taken out expenses, we did the 42 transaction, and we've alluded to, you know, a number of other projects that we're looking at with the idea being, you know, from an internal perspective, on an organic basis, you know, we do think that there's a lot we can do, you know, to improve the profile there. The captive consolidation was one of those projects.

Speaker #5: and so you know we've taken out expenses. We did the fortitude transaction. And we've alluded to you know a number of other projects that we're looking at with the idea being you know on a in an internal from an internal perspective on an organic basis you know we do think that there's a lot we can we we can do you know to improve the the profile there.

Speaker #5: The captive consolidation was one of those projects. we completed it you know at the in the fourth quarter of of this year. And essentially what it is is you know historically you have a number of legacy life captives.

Chris Neczypor: We completed it, you know, in Q4 of this year. Essentially what it is, you know, historically, you have a number of legacy life captives, and, you know, they can be, you know, product specific. You might have some term captives, you might have some GUL captives, and so forth. And so, you know, we've seen this across the industry, but as you think about consolidating those captives, you know, there's a financial benefit given the high financing fees, you know, relative to the, you know, years ago contracts that were signed. So by consolidating and, you know, restructuring the way those captives work, you're able to save on the financing piece of it. As specifically for GAAP in Q4, it was about a $10 million benefit to life.

Speaker #5: And you know, they can be, you know, product specific. You might have some term captives, you might have some GUL captives, and so forth.

Speaker #5: And so you know and we've seen this across the industry. But as you think about consolidating those captives you know there's a financial benefit given the high financing fees you know r+relative to the you know years ago contracts that were signed.

Speaker #5: So by consolidating and you know restructuring the way those captives work you're able to save on the on the financing piece of it. as specifically for gap in fourth quarter it was about a ten million dollar benefit to life.

Speaker #5: So if you think about twenty twenty-six you know you should get you know call it another twenty-five to thirty million in improvement to the life gap earnings.

Chris Neczypor: So if you think about 2026, you know, you should get, you know, call it another $25 to 30 million in improvement to the life GAAP earnings. And then I would tell you that on a free cash flow perspective, it'll be an incremental benefit on top of that $40 million, call it, GAAP run rate, given the fact that, you know, you do have some capital optimization when you combine some of those blocks. So I hope that helps. It's in line with the, you know, sort of bigger picture projects we've talked about, and as it relates to going forward, you know, we think that there's more that we can do.

Speaker #5: And then I would tell you that on a free cash flow perspective it'll be an incremental benefit on top of that forty million dollar call it gap run rate given the fact that you know you're you do have some capital optimization when you combine some of those blocks.

Speaker #5: So I hope that helps. It's in line with the you know sort of bigger picture projects we've talked about. and as it relates to going forward you know we think that there's more that we can do.

Speaker #4: And Wes, just to add, in addition to all of the enforced actions that Chris just mentioned, I also want to reiterate some of the comments that we made earlier around all that we've done to completely revamp the new business franchise.

Ellen Cooper: ... And, Wes, just to add, in addition to all of the in-force actions that Chris just mentioned, I also want to reiterate some of the comments that we made earlier around all that we've done to completely revamp the new business franchise, so that as we think about the ongoing trajectory of the life business over time, we also firmly believe that we'll continue to see profitable growth there. So just as a reminder, across the products, we have significantly revamped as we've shifted into, for example, accumulation and more limited guarantee products. And you really start to see that coming through if you look year-over-year, for example, at our IUL and also at our accumulation VUL from a sales perspective. We've talked quite a bit about executive benefits, that's another example.

Speaker #4: So that as we think about the ongoing trajectory of the life business over time we also firmly believe that we'll continue to to see profitable growth there.

Speaker #4: So just as a reminder, across the products we have significantly revamped as we've shifted into, for example, accumulation and more limited guarantee products. And you really start to see that coming through if you look year over year.

Speaker #4: For example at our IUL and also at our accumulation VUL from a sales perspective. We've talked quite a bit about executive benefits. that's another example.

Speaker #4: And part of that success is also really leveraging our distribution. So we have—we talked about getting closer to the point of sale.

Ellen Cooper: Part of that success is also really leveraging our distribution. So we have talked about getting closer to the point of sale. We are targeting new channels there, such as the producer group, and the agency channel. Then additionally, as we think about this business going forward, we've also done a lot as it relates to technology, automation, supporting our producers around eDelivery, pre- and post-sales, et cetera. So we're excited about what we see. We've made significant improvements to the in-force, and we also see some bright spots over time as it relates to life new business going forward.

Speaker #4: we are targeting new channels there such as the producer group and the agency channel. And then additionally as we think about this business going forward we've also done a lot as it relates to technology automation.

Speaker #4: Supporting our producers around e-delivery pre- and post-sales, etcetera. So we're excited about what we see. We've made significant improvements to the in-force, and we also see some bright spots over time as it relates to Life new business going forward.

Speaker #5: Thank you. It's all very helpful. my second question I guess was just about dynamics and the annuities market. I+it sounded like Ellen from your comments that Ryla maybe is becoming more competitive and maybe pushing you towards fixed and indexed annuities a bit more.

Wes Carmichael: Thank you. That's all very helpful. My second question, I guess, was just about dynamics in the annuities market. It sounded like, Ellen, from your comments, that RILA maybe is becoming more competitive and maybe pushing you towards fixed and indexed annuities a bit more. So just curious what you're seeing there and maybe the outlook for 2026.

Speaker #5: So just curious what you're seeing there in maybe the outlook for twenty twenty-six.

Speaker #4: Absolutely. So I'm gonna step back for a moment and I'll talk about all three segments. So so first of all as you know we are l we're a leader in the annuity market.

Ellen Cooper: Absolutely. So, I'm gonna step back for a moment, and I'll talk about all three segments. So, first of all, as you know, we're a leader in the annuity market. We've got a broad product portfolio. We're across all the major segments. And we very much leverage the overall product portfolio and our distribution footprint. So some of what we have been talking about, it's a couple things. Number one is that we have been focused on lowering our market sensitivity over time, and I'll get to the VA point in a moment. And at the same time, we're focused on balancing profitability, capital and capital efficiency, and really... and growth as well, and really thinking about those three components.

Speaker #4: We've got a broad product portfolio. We're across all the major segments. and we we very much leverage the overall product portfolio. And our distribution footprint.

Speaker #4: So, some of what we have been talking about—it's a couple of things. Number one is that we have been focused on lowering our market sensitivity over time.

Speaker #4: And I'll get to the VA point in a moment. and at the same time we're focused on balancing profitability capitalist and capital efficiency. and really and and growth as well.

Speaker #4: And really thinking about those three components. So what we've seen and you see this coming through in our sales and and and I have to say that our sales in twenty twenty-five were strong.

Ellen Cooper: So what we've seen, and you see this coming through in our sales, and I have to say that our sales in 2025 were strong. We were very happy with the overall volumes. We're very happy with the returns, across each of the product segments, and we also are continuing to just evaluate market dynamics as we go forward as well. So specifically in RILA, as you know, we have, we were one of the earlier entrants into the RILA product. We have now significant experience overall in RILA. About 18 months ago, we revamped and refreshed our product. It was very much needed, and we've seen increasing sales there over time. The addressable market has grown, but the competitive landscape has also grown, and we see that increasingly growing, as it relates to its competitive nature.

Speaker #4: We were very happy with the overall volumes. We're very happy with the returns. across each of the product segments. And we also are continuing to just evaluate market dynamics as we go forward as well.

Speaker #4: So specifically in Ryla as you know we ha we were one of the earlier entrants into the Ryla product. we have now significant experience overall in Ryla.

Speaker #4: about eighteen months ago we we revamped and refreshed our product. It was very much needed. And you've seen increasing sales there over time. The addressable market has grown.

Speaker #4: But the competitive landscape has also grown. And we see that increasingly growing as it relates to its competitive nature. For us given our strong overall annuity platform part of what we're focused on there and we've talked about the fact that we can expect in twenty twenty-six to see sales growth that would be in line with what we've seen over the last call it two to three years.

Ellen Cooper: For us, given our strong overall annuity platform, part of what we're focused on there, and we talked about the fact that we can expect in 2026 to see sales growth that would be in line with what we've seen over the last, call it, 2 to 3 years. What we're doing is we're really leaning into places where we have differentiated product, where we have different... whether it's features, whether it's unique crediting, features as well. And then additionally, along our distribution platform, which is so broad, we also have some places where we have select channels, where our product, in particular, is differentiated there. And so these are ways that we're competing beyond price, really focused again on this idea of balancing profitability, growth, and overall capital efficiency.

Speaker #4: What we're doing is we're really leaning into places where we have differentiated product. Where we have different w+whether it's features whether it's it's unique crediting.

Speaker #4: features as well. And then additionally in our a+along our distribution platform which is so broad we also have some places where we have select channels where our product in particular is differentiated there.

Speaker #4: And so these are ways that we're competing beyond price. Really focused again on this idea of balancing profitability growth. and overall capital efficiency. And I'll just make a mention of for a moment on some of the comments that we made around BA.

Ellen Cooper: And I'll just make a mention for a moment on some of the comments that we made around VA. So, you know, VA is a good product. This is another area where market dynamics, last year in particular, the entire industry grew. We very much have been focused on continuing to shift the mix, and you've seen our mix shift, and part of that is that we've continued to experience strong outflows, so that the higher sales that we saw this year didn't deviate from our goal of diversifying the mix. But as... And in addition, some of the new product features that we launched about a year ago really supported some of the sales momentum that we saw in 2025, and then, of course, we saw this higher demand.

Speaker #4: So you know BA is a good product. This is another area where market dynamics last year in particular the entire industry grew. We very much have been focused on continuing to shift the mix.

Speaker #4: And you've seen our mix shift. And part of that is that we've we've continued to experience strong outflows. so that the higher sales that we saw this year didn't deviate from our goal of of diversifying the mix.

Speaker #4: But as and and in addition some of the new product features that that we launched about a year ago really supported some of the sales momentum that we saw in in twenty twenty-five.

Speaker #4: And then of course we saw this higher demand. So as we look to twenty twenty-six we're gonna expect to see that growth moderate as I mentioned.

Ellen Cooper: So as we looked at 2026, we're gonna expect to see that growth moderate, as I mentioned, so that our sales will look more similar to pre-2025 levels. And then the last point that I'll make is as it relates to fixed annuity. Fixed annuity is the one place where we really believe that we have runway to continue to grow. We're gonna leverage everything that we've talked about, Bermuda, investment strategy, expanding our overall opportunity there as we continue to have unique sourcing, and also expanding both our product capabilities and also distribution as well.

Speaker #4: so that our sales will look more similar to pre-twenty twenty-five levels. And then the fo the the last point that I'll make is as it relates to fixed annuity.

Speaker #4: Fixed annuity is the one place where we really believe that we have runway to continue to grow. We're gonna leverage everything that we've talked about.

Speaker #4: Bermuda investment strategy expanding our overall opportunity there as we continue to to have unique sourcing. and and also expanding both our product capabilities and also distribution as well.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Wes Carmichael: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Your next question comes from the line of Suneet Kamath with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Suneet Kamath with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Great. Thanks. I wanted to go back to slide eighteen. If I look at the medium-term subsidiary remittances if I take the midpoint it's a pretty big jump from the eight forty-five you did in twenty twenty-five.

Suneet Kamath: Great, thanks. I wanted to go back to slide 18. If I look at the medium-term, subsidiary remittances, if I take the midpoint, it's a pretty big jump from the $845 you did in 2025.... And I know that the range is over a 2-year period, but can you unpack what would lead to close to a 50% jump, if I'm thinking about it right?

Speaker #7: and I I know that the the range is over a two-year period. But can you unpack what would lead to close to a fifty percent jump if I'm thinking about it right?

Speaker #5: Yeah. I think the central premise there and by the way good morning Suneet. I think the central premise there is for the past call it three years as we have grown our free cash flow you know we've maintained the vast majority of it in the operating entities.

Chris Neczypor: Yeah, I think the central premise there, and by the way, good morning, Steve. I think the central premise there is for the past, call it, three years, as we have grown our free cash flow, you know, we've maintained the vast majority of it in the operating entities, right? And so for all the reasons we've talked about, but going forward, the expectation is, you know, A, that the underlying free cash flow is growing. We've shown the ability to do that. You know, we've talked about the levers that will continue to drive that. But also, you know, with where we are from a capitalization perspective, L&L and Alpine and so forth, you know, you would expect us to move that to the holding company.

Speaker #5: Right? And so for all the reasons we've talked about but going forward the expectation is you know A that the underlying free cash flow is growing.

Speaker #5: We've shown the ability to do that. You know we've talked about the levers that will continue to drive that. But also you know w+with where we are from a capitalization perspective L&L and Alpine and so forth you know our we we would you would expect us to move that to the holding company.

Speaker #5: So you know I think that it's somewhat of a you know we've done what we've said we were going to do in terms of building back t capital at the OpCos.

Chris Neczypor: So, you know, I think that it's somewhat of a, you know, we've done what we've said we were going to do in terms of building back capital at the, opcos. We're maintaining a buffer. You can see from the RBC slide, upfront, that, you know, we ended the year at 439. And by the way, that excludes the remaining, Bain proceeds that are earmarked for deployment next year. So, you know, you, you could just, you know, think about the fact that as we've been generating incremental free cash flow, you're seeing it come through, from an RBC perspective, and there's a similar dynamic, in Alpine. So going forward, as the free cash flow continues to, you know, be robust, you know, you would expect us to move that to the holding company.

Speaker #5: We're maintaining a buffer. You can see from the RBC slide up front that you know we ended the year at four thirty-nine. And by the way that excludes the remaining Bain proceeds that are earmarked for deployment next year.

Speaker #5: So, you know, you could just, you know, think about the fact that as we've been generating incremental free cash flow, you're seeing it come through from an RBC perspective, and there's a similar dynamic in Alpine.

Speaker #5: So going forward as the free cash flow continues to you know be robust you know you would expect us to move that to the holding company.

Speaker #7: Okay. That that makes sense. And I guess n+n+I don't want I know you're not gonna get too specific on it. But as we think about this one point two to one point three billion d+does that have any of the you know levers in it that you guys have talked about in terms of you know r+reinsurance or or anything like that?

Suneet Kamath: Okay, that makes sense. And I guess, and I don't want, I know you're not going to get too specific on it, but as we think about this $1.2 to 1.3 billion, does that have any of the, you know, levers in it that you guys have talked about in terms of, you know, reinsurance or anything like that? Or is it more sort of normal course? And should we expect there to be a big difference between 2027 and 2026? Thanks.

Speaker #7: I+or is it more sort of normal course? And should we expect there to be a big difference between twenty-seven and twenty-six? Thanks.

Speaker #5: So I think on the first question, what I would say is all of the things that we've been doing over the past couple of years to increase free cash flow.

Chris Neczypor: So I think on the first question, what I would say is all of the things that we've been doing over the past couple of years to increase free cash flow, right? And we've talked about, you know, the big buckets there, dealing with the legacy Life block, optimizing the operating model, being more thoughtful around capital allocation. You know, they've been big drivers, and the vast majority of them should continue to be, you know, drivers to the growth in free cash flow over the medium term. We'll continue to look at our operating model and optimize the strategic asset allocation. We'll continue to look at expenses. We think there's more we can do with Bermuda.

Speaker #5: Right? A+, and we've talked about, you know, the big buckets there: dealing with the legacy life block, optimizing the operating model, being more thoughtful around capital allocation.

Speaker #5: you know they've been big drivers. And the vast majority of them should continue to be you know drivers to the growth and free cash flow over the medium term.

Speaker #5: We'll continue to look at our operating model and optimize the strategic asset allocation. We'll continue to look at expenses. We think there's more we can do with Bermuda, you know, from a capital allocation perspective.

Chris Neczypor: You know, from a capital allocation perspective, you know, as we've talked about, that's both at a business unit level, if you think about how much group has grown, as well as within the business units. So if you think about the repositioning in Life. So those dynamics should continue to be tailwinds to free cash flow. What we're not including, Suneet, to your specific question, are any other sort of big external things that, you know, we've done in the past. And so, you know, to the degree that we, for example, look at another external risk transfer deal, you know, that would not be what's implied in the remittances. So it is the natural evolution of the things that we've talked about.

Speaker #5: You know a+as we've talked about that's both at a business unit level. If you think about how much group has grown as well as with inside the the business unit.

Speaker #5: So if you think about the repositioning in life. So tho those dynamics should continue to be tailwinds to free cash flow. What we're not including Suneet your specific question.

Speaker #5: Are any other sort of big external things that you know we've done in the past? And so you know to the degree that we for example look at another external risk transfer deal.

Speaker #5: You know that would not be what's implied in the remittances. So it is the natural evolution of the things that we've talked about. We continue to see runway to you know obviously both grow earnings but then more importantly grow the ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow.

Chris Neczypor: We continue to see runway to, you know, obviously both grow earnings, but then more importantly, grow the ability to convert those earnings into free cash flow. And then if we were to do something else, you know, that would be sort of, incremental to these numbers.

Speaker #5: And then if we were to do something else you know that would be sort of incremental to these numbers.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thanks.

Suneet Kamath: Okay, thanks.

Speaker #6: And that concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn it back over to John Muthing for closing comments.

Operator: That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn it back over to John Muething for closing comments.

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Chris Neczypor: Thank you for joining us this morning. We're happy to discuss any follow-up questions you have. Please email us at investorrelations@lfg.com.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's call. Thank you for joining, and you may now disconnect.

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