Q2 2026 Aeluma Inc Earnings Call
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Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aeluma's Q2 Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mary Beth Vitale, Investor Relations for Aeluma. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aeluma's Q2 Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mary Beth Vitale, Investor Relations for Aeluma. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: I am delighted to welcome Nasser as Alma's new Senior Vice of President Business Development and product . Bush held key roles at JSU , now Lumentum , overseeing sales , product marketing and management for high speed receiver product lines .
Speaker #1: What a great match for alma and our scalable detector technology . Bush's three decades of experience with semiconductor photonics span optical networking and data centers , sensing and quantum in addition to Jdsu , Lumentum , Bush held roles leadership at Qkd USA , one of the largest suppliers of infrared sensors , and Princeton Lightweight , where he launched commercial laser quantum and biomedical products detector is the .
Mary Beth Vitale: Good afternoon and welcome to Aeluma's second quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. I'm here today with Founder and CEO Jonathan Klamkin and CFO Christopher Stewart. Today's discussions and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the earnings press release issued today, along with the reports filed with the U.S. SEC. These reports, along with today's earnings release, can be found under the Investor section of our website. Aeluma assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Throughout the discussion, the company will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA.
Mary Beth Vitale: Good afternoon and welcome to Aeluma's second quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. I'm here today with Founder and CEO Jonathan Klamkin and CFO Christopher Stewart. Today's discussions and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in the earnings press release issued today, along with the reports filed with the U.S. SEC. These reports, along with today's earnings release, can be found under the Investor section of our website. Aeluma assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this call. Throughout the discussion, the company will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #1: perfect fit at this stage , Alma when seeing increasing Bush requests for quotation begun sales and have taking orders initial . While orders are relatively small in value , this marks important milestone toward broader market adoption .
Speaker #1: Bush has a track record of taking technology to product driving market adoption and growing revenue . He will accelerate our go to market strategy , building on the significant customer traction achieved to date .
Mary Beth Vitale: A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings press release and SEC filings. Now I'll turn the call over to Aeluma's CEO, Jonathan Klamkin.
Mary Beth Vitale: A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in the earnings press release and SEC filings. Now I'll turn the call over to Aeluma's CEO, Jonathan Klamkin.
Speaker #1: In addition to Bush's appointment, we added experienced leadership and technical talent across supply chain and engineering. These other key appointments have strengthened our manufacturing partner relationships as we increase operations with foundries.
Jonathan Klamkin: Thank you, Alex, and thank you all for joining today's call. To begin, I would like to share some enlightening numbers I heard recently at the PIC Summit in Sunnyvale, an event aligned with the SPIE Photonics West Conference that Aeluma participated in. An executive from Celestial AI, the photonics company recently acquired by Marvell, stated that the top four hyperscalers invested more than $300 billion in data center CapEx in 2025, and this number is expected to surpass $1 trillion in 2029. This is a significant market opportunity now and for the next several years. It is also an opportunity for new technology and product introduction. Higher performance is needed, higher volumes are needed, and cost is critical. The Aeluma platform wins on all of these metrics.
Jonathan Klamkin: Thank you, Alex, and thank you all for joining today's call. To begin, I would like to share some enlightening numbers I heard recently at the PIC Summit in Sunnyvale, an event aligned with the SPIE Photonics West Conference that Aeluma participated in. An executive from Celestial AI, the photonics company recently acquired by Marvell, stated that the top four hyperscalers invested more than $300 billion in data center CapEx in 2025, and this number is expected to surpass $1 trillion in 2029. This is a significant market opportunity now and for the next several years. It is also an opportunity for new technology and product introduction. Higher performance is needed, higher volumes are needed, and cost is critical. The Aeluma platform wins on all of these metrics.
Speaker #1: Chips are yielding and performing as we qualify our processes for target markets . We will continue to expand the team strategic and accelerate our evaluate also opportunities to growth Earlier , we .
Speaker #1: Announced a collaboration with NASA to invest further in our platform for quantum photonics. We also received additional contract funding to integrate quantum dot lasers directly into the AIM Photonics 300-millimeter silicon photonics platform.
Speaker #1: This technology could be a game changer for the photonics industry across AI data centers , sensing and quantum . Additionally , we received several award notices recently for later stage R&D efforts and transition opportunities , reinforcing confidence in Illumina's technology and expectations for additional contracts .
Jonathan Klamkin: While data centers represent a very important market for Aeluma, this is only one of three primary near-term target markets that also include mobile and defense. Activities for us are busier than ever across each of these markets. We are witnessing our vision come to life as mobile and consumer electronics OEMs position their supply chains to adopt short-wave infrared, or SWIR, sensors. SWIR sensors have been around for many years, primarily in the defense, aerospace, and industrial markets for applications such as imaging and machine vision. Indium gallium arsenide, or InGaAs, one of Aeluma's primary semiconductor materials, has been the benchmark for SWIR because of its best-in-class performance. But incumbent InGaAs technology is expensive and doesn't scale. If only InGaAs could be lower cost. I've heard this for decades. If only, then InGaAs sensors would be in every mobile phone, tablet, PC, and other consumer product.
Jonathan Klamkin: While data centers represent a very important market for Aeluma, this is only one of three primary near-term target markets that also include mobile and defense. Activities for us are busier than ever across each of these markets. We are witnessing our vision come to life as mobile and consumer electronics OEMs position their supply chains to adopt short-wave infrared, or SWIR, sensors. SWIR sensors have been around for many years, primarily in the defense, aerospace, and industrial markets for applications such as imaging and machine vision. Indium gallium arsenide, or InGaAs, one of Aeluma's primary semiconductor materials, has been the benchmark for SWIR because of its best-in-class performance. But incumbent InGaAs technology is expensive and doesn't scale. If only InGaAs could be lower cost. I've heard this for decades. If only, then InGaAs sensors would be in every mobile phone, tablet, PC, and other consumer product.
Speaker #1: This year, in January, our team was very active at the Photonics West Technical Conference and Exhibition. A presentation was delivered that showcased our semiconductor platform for quantum to provide color.
Speaker #1: Luma is a technology company and not a system integrator. However, we believe our platform has more potential than those developed by major quantum systems compared to alternatives such as lithium niobate or barium titanate.
Speaker #1: Aluminas . Heterogeneous integration on silicon may provide the path forward to scalable quantum photonic systems . Our booth at the exhibition was also busy .
Speaker #1: We held important meetings with existing customers and partners, and also discussed Illumina's technology with many new leads across key markets. Important people came to see Illumina.
Speaker #1: The word is out and the buzz continues to grow . We were visited by individuals from the mobile market , the data center market , the defense market , and the quantum market , among others .
Jonathan Klamkin: The mobile market is getting ready to adopt SWIR, and as we know, Aeluma's manufacturing platform enables the scale required for mass markets. In Q2, we continued to execute our commitments and remained sharply focused on our transition to commercialization. Conversations with key customers have shifted from interest and evaluation to pricing and planning. At this pivotal time, I am delighted to welcome Bouch Nessar as Aeluma's new Senior Vice President of Business Development and Product. Bouch held key roles at JDSU, now Lumentum, overseeing sales, product marketing, and management for high-speed receiver product lines. What a great match for Aeluma and our scalable detector technology. Bouch's three decades of experience with semiconductor photonics span optical networking in data centers, sensing, and quantum.
Jonathan Klamkin: The mobile market is getting ready to adopt SWIR, and as we know, Aeluma's manufacturing platform enables the scale required for mass markets. In Q2, we continued to execute our commitments and remained sharply focused on our transition to commercialization. Conversations with key customers have shifted from interest and evaluation to pricing and planning. At this pivotal time, I am delighted to welcome Bouch Nessar as Aeluma's new Senior Vice President of Business Development and Product. Bouch held key roles at JDSU, now Lumentum, overseeing sales, product marketing, and management for high-speed receiver product lines. What a great match for Aeluma and our scalable detector technology. Bouch's three decades of experience with semiconductor photonics span optical networking in data centers, sensing, and quantum.
Speaker #1: We also took another deepen our step to presence in defense and commercial markets with admission to the Midwest Microelectronics Consortium or MEC . In November .
Speaker #1: key This is a hub within the Department of Wars , microelectronics Commons , which is focused on transitioning critical technologies from the lab into domestic manufacturing hub themes directly align with the Loomis technology , which addresses AI hardware , electronic warfare , quantum and infrared sensing .
Speaker #1: Simply put , the MEC expands our reach while reaffirming our role in future proofing America's leadership . In semiconductors . External recognition continued with Eluma being named a 2025 Leap Award winner for Advanced Materials Innovation .
Jonathan Klamkin: In addition to JDSU Lumentum, Bouch held leadership roles at SCD USA, one of the largest suppliers of infrared sensors, and Princeton Lightwave, where he launched commercial laser, quantum sensor, and biomedical detector products. Bouch is the perfect fit for Aeluma at this stage when we are receiving increasing requests for quotation and have begun taking sales orders. While initial orders are relatively small in value, this marks an important milestone toward broader market adoption. Bouch has a track record of taking technology to product, driving market adoption, and growing revenue. He will accelerate our go-to-market strategy, building on the significant customer traction achieved to date. In addition to Bouch's appointment, we added experienced leadership and technical talent across supply chain and engineering. These other key appointments have strengthened our manufacturing partner relationships as we increase operations with foundries.
Jonathan Klamkin: In addition to JDSU Lumentum, Bouch held leadership roles at SCD USA, one of the largest suppliers of infrared sensors, and Princeton Lightwave, where he launched commercial laser, quantum sensor, and biomedical detector products. Bouch is the perfect fit for Aeluma at this stage when we are receiving increasing requests for quotation and have begun taking sales orders. While initial orders are relatively small in value, this marks an important milestone toward broader market adoption. Bouch has a track record of taking technology to product, driving market adoption, and growing revenue. He will accelerate our go-to-market strategy, building on the significant customer traction achieved to date. In addition to Bouch's appointment, we added experienced leadership and technical talent across supply chain and engineering. These other key appointments have strengthened our manufacturing partner relationships as we increase operations with foundries.
Speaker #1: This award recognized our wafer wafer scale , severe highlights and of best combining class in materials with scalable manufacturing . Importantly , this independent validation enhances our credibility and relevance across multiple high growth markets at the same time , we continue to strengthen the foundation of our business .
Speaker #1: We expanded our patent portfolio to 35 , issued and pending patents . Our mindset is to leave no stone unturned when it comes to establishing a footprint in target our markets .
Speaker #1: Taken together , these achievements underscore clear themes . Momentum building is , visibility is rising , engagement is translating into opportunity . The time is now to capitalize on our progress and the growing market horizon , and to pursue strategic opportunities to accelerate our commercialization we path to .
Speaker #1: move As through fiscal 2026 , we remain intensely focused on commercialization and on delivering long term value . Now , I'll turn the call over to our CFO , Chris Stewart , to discuss the financials .
Jonathan Klamkin: Chips are yielding and performing as we qualify our processes for target markets. We will continue to expand the team and also evaluate strategic opportunities to accelerate our growth. Earlier, we announced a win with NASA to invest further in our platform for quantum photonics. We also received additional contract funding to integrate quantum dot lasers directly into the AIM Photonics 300mm silicon photonics platform. This technology could be a game changer for the photonics industry across AI, data centers, sensing, and quantum. Additionally, we received several award notices recently for later-stage R&D efforts and transition opportunities, reinforcing confidence in Aeluma's technology and expectations for additional contracts this year. In January, our team was very active at the SPIE Photonics West technical conference and exhibition. A presentation was delivered that showcased our scalable semiconductor platform for quantum.
Jonathan Klamkin: Chips are yielding and performing as we qualify our processes for target markets. We will continue to expand the team and also evaluate strategic opportunities to accelerate our growth. Earlier, we announced a win with NASA to invest further in our platform for quantum photonics. We also received additional contract funding to integrate quantum dot lasers directly into the AIM Photonics 300mm silicon photonics platform. This technology could be a game changer for the photonics industry across AI, data centers, sensing, and quantum. Additionally, we received several award notices recently for later-stage R&D efforts and transition opportunities, reinforcing confidence in Aeluma's technology and expectations for additional contracts this year. In January, our team was very active at the SPIE Photonics West technical conference and exhibition. A presentation was delivered that showcased our scalable semiconductor platform for quantum.
Speaker #1: Thanks .
Speaker #2: Jonathan. Moving on to our fiscal second quarter 2020 financial results. Revenue was $1.3 million compared to $1.6 million in the second quarter of last year.
Speaker #2: Fiscal 2025, and $1.4 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2026. Our government R&D contracts were the principal source of revenue for the quarter.
Speaker #2: And as we have discussed previously , quarter to quarter revenue can vary based on the timing of meeting program milestones . It's important to highlight the strategic nature of these programs .
Speaker #2: Government development contracts provide non-dilutive funding for R&D investments and serve as ongoing technical and technological validation of our platform for prospective customers by government. Forward, we...
Speaker #2: Going continue to pursue strategic government can programs that meaningfully accelerate commercialization opportunities . GAAP net loss for the quarter was $1.9 million , or $0.11 per basic and diluted share , compared to a net loss of 2.9 million , or $0.24 per share , in the prior period .
Jonathan Klamkin: To provide color, Aeluma is a technology company and not a system integrator. However, we believe our platform has more potential than those developed by major quantum system companies. Compared to alternatives such as lithium niobate or barium titanate, Aeluma's heterogeneous integration on silicon may provide the path forward to scalable quantum photonic systems. Our booth at the exhibition was also busy. We held important meetings with existing customers and partners and also discussed Aeluma's technology with many new leads across key markets. Important people came to see Aeluma. The word is out, and the buzz continues to grow. We were visited by individuals from the mobile market, the data center market, the defense market, and the quantum market, among others. We also took another step to deepen our presence in defense and commercial markets with admission to the Midwest Microelectronics Consortium, or MMEC, in November.
Jonathan Klamkin: To provide color, Aeluma is a technology company and not a system integrator. However, we believe our platform has more potential than those developed by major quantum system companies. Compared to alternatives such as lithium niobate or barium titanate, Aeluma's heterogeneous integration on silicon may provide the path forward to scalable quantum photonic systems. Our booth at the exhibition was also busy. We held important meetings with existing customers and partners and also discussed Aeluma's technology with many new leads across key markets. Important people came to see Aeluma. The word is out, and the buzz continues to grow. We were visited by individuals from the mobile market, the data center market, the defense market, and the quantum market, among others. We also took another step to deepen our presence in defense and commercial markets with admission to the Midwest Microelectronics Consortium, or MMEC, in November.
Speaker #2: In the prior year period, and a net loss of $1.5 million, or $0.09 per share, in the sequential prior quarter.
Speaker #2: The lower year over year net loss was primarily due to a non-recurring $3 million charge for a change in the fair value of derivative liabilities that we recorded in the quarter ended December 31st , 2024 .
Speaker #2: This was partially offset by higher salaries , stock based compensation , and employee related costs associated with increasing our headcount . To strategically expand our business and scale our operations increase sequential in net was loss by driven higher R&D related expense , partially offset by lower G&A expense .
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $917,000, compared to a gain of $647,000 in the same period last year, and a loss of $450,000 in the first quarter of this year.
Jonathan Klamkin: This is a key hub within the Department of War's Microelectronics Commons, which is focused on transitioning critical technologies from the lab into domestic manufacturing. Hub themes directly align with Aeluma's technology, which addresses AI hardware, electronic warfare, quantum, and infrared sensing. Simply put, the MMEC expands our reach while reaffirming our role in future-proofing America's leadership in semiconductors. External recognition continued with Aeluma being named a 2025 LEAP Award winner for advanced materials innovation. This award recognized our wafer-scale SWIR photodetector platform and highlights the competitive advantage of combining best-in-class materials with scalable manufacturing. Importantly, this independent validation enhances our credibility and relevance across multiple high-growth markets. At the same time, we continue to strengthen the foundation of our business. We expanded our patent portfolio to 35 issued and pending patents.
Jonathan Klamkin: This is a key hub within the Department of War's Microelectronics Commons, which is focused on transitioning critical technologies from the lab into domestic manufacturing. Hub themes directly align with Aeluma's technology, which addresses AI hardware, electronic warfare, quantum, and infrared sensing. Simply put, the MMEC expands our reach while reaffirming our role in future-proofing America's leadership in semiconductors. External recognition continued with Aeluma being named a 2025 LEAP Award winner for advanced materials innovation. This award recognized our wafer-scale SWIR photodetector platform and highlights the competitive advantage of combining best-in-class materials with scalable manufacturing. Importantly, this independent validation enhances our credibility and relevance across multiple high-growth markets. At the same time, we continue to strengthen the foundation of our business. We expanded our patent portfolio to 35 issued and pending patents.
Speaker #2: We closed the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $38.6 million in cash and cash equivalents, an increase of $425,000 from the close of the September quarter. This was primarily due to the receipt of $690,000 from the extra warrants that were issued as part of our March 2025 Nasdaq uplisting and financing. Related to the warrant exercise, we issued 124,415 shares of common stock.
Speaker #2: Currently, we have no long-term debt. We continue to, and intend to, operate in a disciplined, capital-efficient manner while ensuring that Illumina is appropriately positioned to execute on our strategic plans and capitalize on the opportunities to create value for our shareholders.
Speaker #2: Last week , we took a proactive step in filing a post effective amendment with the SEC to consolidate several existing S-1 registration statements that were currently on file .
Speaker #2: No new shares were registered in connection with this filing. This consolidation just streamlines our reporting requirements and reduces administrative costs going forward.
Speaker #2: Turning to guidance for the full fiscal year of 2026 , we continue to expect revenue in the range of 4 to 6 million .
Jonathan Klamkin: Our mindset is to leave no stone unturned when it comes to establishing a footprint in our target markets. Taken together, these achievements underscore clear themes: momentum is building, visibility is rising, engagement is translating into opportunity. The time is now to capitalize on our progress and the growing market horizon and to pursue strategic opportunities to accelerate our path to commercialization. As we move through fiscal 2026, we remain intensely focused on commercialization and on delivering long-term value. Now I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Chris Stewart, to discuss the financials.
Jonathan Klamkin: Our mindset is to leave no stone unturned when it comes to establishing a footprint in our target markets. Taken together, these achievements underscore clear themes: momentum is building, visibility is rising, engagement is translating into opportunity. The time is now to capitalize on our progress and the growing market horizon and to pursue strategic opportunities to accelerate our path to commercialization. As we move through fiscal 2026, we remain intensely focused on commercialization and on delivering long-term value. Now I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Chris Stewart, to discuss the financials.
Speaker #2: Our execution is progressing according to the plans discussed on our last two quarterly calls . We have strengthened our organization with key additions across our go to market and operations teams .
Speaker #2: We are ramping Phab runs and continuing to manufacture as our readiness increases. As Jonathan mentioned, we're receiving an increasing number of requests for price quotations and have begun taking initial sales orders for product shipments.
Speaker #2: While revenue from near-term these orders is expected to be modest, we do believe it's an important milestone and provides another indication of market interest in our technology.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you . Chris , to summarize this quarter reinforced that Eluma is gaining traction and momentum . We continue to execute our strategic priorities , strengthen our technical foundation , accelerate our go to market plan , and expand operations to scale as we move through the year , we remain laser focused on converting this momentum into programs and transitioning to commercialization .
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, Jonathan. Moving on to our fiscal Q2 2026 financial results, revenue was $1.3 million compared to $1.6 million in the Q2 of last year, fiscal 2025, and $1.4 million in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. Our government R&D contracts were the principal source of revenue for the quarter. As we have discussed previously, quarter-to-quarter revenue can vary based on the timing of meeting program milestones. It's important to highlight the strategic nature of these programs. Government development contracts provide non-dilutive funding for our R&D investments and serve as ongoing technical validation of our platform by prospective government customers. Going forward, we will continue to pursue strategic government programs that can meaningfully accelerate commercialization opportunities.
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, Jonathan. Moving on to our fiscal Q2 2026 financial results, revenue was $1.3 million compared to $1.6 million in the Q2 of last year, fiscal 2025, and $1.4 million in the Q1 of fiscal 2026. Our government R&D contracts were the principal source of revenue for the quarter. As we have discussed previously, quarter-to-quarter revenue can vary based on the timing of meeting program milestones. It's important to highlight the strategic nature of these programs. Government development contracts provide non-dilutive funding for our R&D investments and serve as ongoing technical validation of our platform by prospective government customers. Going forward, we will continue to pursue strategic government programs that can meaningfully accelerate commercialization opportunities.
Speaker #1: I want to thank our team for their incredible work and hard dedication, and I want to thank all of you for your unwavering support and enthusiasm.
Speaker #1: Operator . You can now open the call for questions .
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Christopher Stewart: GAAP net loss for the quarter was $1.9 million, or $0.11 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $2.9 million, or $0.24 per share in the prior year period, and a net loss of $1.5 million, or $0.09 per share in the sequential prior quarter. The lower year-over-year net loss was primarily due to a non-recurring $3 million charge for a change in the fair value of derivative liabilities that we recorded in the quarter ended 31 December 2024. This was partially offset by higher salaries, stock-based compensation, and employee-related costs associated with increasing our headcount to strategically expand our business and scale our operations. The sequential increase in net loss was driven by higher R&D-related expense, partially offset by lower SG&A expense.
Christopher Stewart: GAAP net loss for the quarter was $1.9 million, or $0.11 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $2.9 million, or $0.24 per share in the prior year period, and a net loss of $1.5 million, or $0.09 per share in the sequential prior quarter. The lower year-over-year net loss was primarily due to a non-recurring $3 million charge for a change in the fair value of derivative liabilities that we recorded in the quarter ended 31 December 2024. This was partially offset by higher salaries, stock-based compensation, and employee-related costs associated with increasing our headcount to strategically expand our business and scale our operations. The sequential increase in net loss was driven by higher R&D-related expense, partially offset by lower SG&A expense.
Speaker #3: Then two. The first question will come from Richard Shannon with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: this is Hi , Tyler on for Richard Shannon . I was wondering , what are the end marks end markets that you're getting sales orders for ?
Speaker #1: Thanks , Tyler , for the question . As it relates to sales or engagements , we're not sharing specific customer or product information at this time .
Speaker #1: Thanks , Tyler , for the question . As it relates to sales or engagements , we're not sharing specific customer or product information at this time inquiries of flurry pricing and initial sales orders is an important milestone .
Speaker #1: But orders are relatively small in value . a step Certainly forward toward broad market adoption . But we do believe that our plan to initially focus on mobile AI and defense has provided us sort of the right balance of early adopters .
Christopher Stewart: Adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $917,000, compared to a gain of $647,000 in the same period last year and a loss of $450,000 in the first quarter of this year. We closed the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $38.6 million in cash and cash equivalents, an increase of $425,000 from the close of the September quarter, primarily due to the receipt of $690,000 from the exercise warrants that were issued as part of our March 2025 NASDAQ uplisting and financing. Related to the warrant exercise, we issued 124,415 shares of common stock. Currently, we have no long-term debt, and we intend to continue to operate in a disciplined, capital-efficient manner while ensuring that Aeluma is appropriately positioned to execute on our strategic plans and capitalize on the opportunities to create value for our shareholders.
Christopher Stewart: Adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $917,000, compared to a gain of $647,000 in the same period last year and a loss of $450,000 in the first quarter of this year. We closed the quarter with a strong balance sheet, including $38.6 million in cash and cash equivalents, an increase of $425,000 from the close of the September quarter, primarily due to the receipt of $690,000 from the exercise warrants that were issued as part of our March 2025 NASDAQ uplisting and financing. Related to the warrant exercise, we issued 124,415 shares of common stock. Currently, we have no long-term debt, and we intend to continue to operate in a disciplined, capital-efficient manner while ensuring that Aeluma is appropriately positioned to execute on our strategic plans and capitalize on the opportunities to create value for our shareholders.
Speaker #1: Small volume early adopters and disruptive large volume opportunities . And , you know , a good way to to get to large orders is to first win some small sales orders .
Speaker #1: And that's exactly what's happening for us right now .
Speaker #4: Awesome . That's that's great to hear . And then you mentioned quantum photonics . I was just wondering , is this for receiving or operations or routing or or sending of quantum of photons essentially
Speaker #4: . near
Speaker #1: that term , the we're doing work that is primarily for generating . There's photons significant interest in , in working with Illumina to build out an entire platform that could do everything from generate photons , route photons , process , and detect photons with our single photon detector technology .
Speaker #1: in the But near term , we've been doing sort of foundational work to develop a platform to integrate these highly nonlinear materials on large diameter substrates .
Christopher Stewart: Last week, we took a proactive step in filing a post-effective amendment with the SEC to consolidate several existing S1 registration statements that were currently on file. No new shares were registered in connection with this filing. This consolidation just streamlines our reporting requirements and reduces administrative costs going forward. Turning to guidance for the full fiscal year of 2026, we continue to expect revenue in the range of $4 to 6 million. Our execution is progressing according to the plans discussed on our last two quarterly calls. We have strengthened our organization with key additions across our go-to-market and operations teams. We are ramping fab runs and continuing to increase our manufacturing readiness. As Jonathan mentioned, we're receiving an increasing number of requests for price quotations and have begun taking initial sales orders for product shipments.
Christopher Stewart: Last week, we took a proactive step in filing a post-effective amendment with the SEC to consolidate several existing S1 registration statements that were currently on file. No new shares were registered in connection with this filing. This consolidation just streamlines our reporting requirements and reduces administrative costs going forward. Turning to guidance for the full fiscal year of 2026, we continue to expect revenue in the range of $4 to 6 million. Our execution is progressing according to the plans discussed on our last two quarterly calls. We have strengthened our organization with key additions across our go-to-market and operations teams. We are ramping fab runs and continuing to increase our manufacturing readiness. As Jonathan mentioned, we're receiving an increasing number of requests for price quotations and have begun taking initial sales orders for product shipments.
Speaker #1: we've So done that on small substrates . We've done that on 200 millimeter substrates . And we're working with some partners now to to scale that to 300 millimeter substrates .
Speaker #4: And then last just one one to expand on that . Is this pairs or single photons .
Speaker #1: Primarily pairs .
Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #3: The next question will come from David Williams. Go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey , Jonathan . Chris , thank you , gentlemen , for taking the question . Certainly appreciate it . And congrats on the continued progress here .
Speaker #5: And maybe first , just kind of following on to Tyler's first question about the sales orders . And I know it . You're not commenting maybe on the .
Speaker #5: In markets , but is there a way to kind of think about maybe the number that you're seeing there in terms of the magnitude of of how many customers are are actively engaging on that , that side , and then maybe what are those orders for you talk about them being small .
Christopher Stewart: While near-term revenue from these orders is expected to be modest, we do believe it's an important milestone and provides another indication of market interest in our technology. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.
Christopher Stewart: While near-term revenue from these orders is expected to be modest, we do believe it's an important milestone and provides another indication of market interest in our technology. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jonathan for his closing remarks before we open the call to your questions.
Speaker #5: So I'm assuming there are samples , but are these are these programs just you think can can move into volume scale over time ?
Jonathan Klamkin: Thank you, Chris. To summarize, this quarter reinforced that Aeluma is gaining traction and momentum. We continue to execute our strategic priorities, strengthen our technical foundation, accelerate our go-to-market plan, and expand operations to scale. As we move through the year, we remain laser-focused on converting this momentum into customer programs and transitioning to commercialization. I want to thank our incredible team for their hard work and dedication, and I want to thank all of you for your unwavering support and enthusiasm. Operator, you can now open the call for questions.
Jonathan Klamkin: Thank you, Chris. To summarize, this quarter reinforced that Aeluma is gaining traction and momentum. We continue to execute our strategic priorities, strengthen our technical foundation, accelerate our go-to-market plan, and expand operations to scale. As we move through the year, we remain laser-focused on converting this momentum into customer programs and transitioning to commercialization. I want to thank our incredible team for their hard work and dedication, and I want to thank all of you for your unwavering support and enthusiasm. Operator, you can now open the call for questions.
Speaker #5: Or maybe just any more color around those sales would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Yeah .
Speaker #1: So price increase coming from a multitude of markets . We sort of mentioned our key markets . So it's coming from more than one of mobile AI data centers .
Speaker #1: Defense and quantum and . What I can say is that there's multiple price quotations out there . Multiple sales orders coming in relatively small in size .
Speaker #1: So we're not increasing our revenue guidance for this year . At the time . But we see these as a very important milestone because as more and more requests come in , others follow .
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Speaker #1: So outside of sort of the business to business marketing that we do , people are finding out about our technology and what we're building and , and sending us requests .
Speaker #1: So so we do expect this to grow over time , and we'll likely report on it in future quarterly calls . But at this time , what I can say is that our our strategy to focus mobile on AI , data centers and longer term opportunities in quantum seems to be coming to fruition now .
Richard Shannon: Hi, this is Tyler on for Richard Shannon. I was wondering, what are the end markets that you're getting sales orders for?
Richard Shannon: Hi, this is Tyler on for Richard Shannon. I was wondering, what are the end markets that you're getting sales orders for?
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, Tyler, for the question. As it relates to sales or engagements, we're not sharing specific customer or product information at this time. This small flurry of pricing inquiries and initial sales orders is an important milestone, but the sales orders are relatively small in value, certainly a step forward toward broad market adoption. But we do believe that our plan to initially focus on mobile, AI, and defense has provided us sort of the right balance of early adopters, small volume early adopters, and disruptive large volume opportunities. And a good way to get to large orders is to first win some small sales orders, and that's exactly what's happening for us right now.
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, Tyler, for the question. As it relates to sales or engagements, we're not sharing specific customer or product information at this time. This small flurry of pricing inquiries and initial sales orders is an important milestone, but the sales orders are relatively small in value, certainly a step forward toward broad market adoption. But we do believe that our plan to initially focus on mobile, AI, and defense has provided us sort of the right balance of early adopters, small volume early adopters, and disruptive large volume opportunities. And a good way to get to large orders is to first win some small sales orders, and that's exactly what's happening for us right now.
Speaker #5: Yeah , yeah , certainly appreciate the color there . And then maybe , maybe secondly , just stepping back and you talked about square in mobile and the supply chains kind of ramping to adopt that .
Speaker #5: Can you talk about maybe where you intersect that that generation in terms of of builds and is this is this something we could see this year or maybe have some indication of a pathway to that adoption for next year in terms of that sphere ?
Speaker #5: On the mobile side? Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks , David . I can't comment on timeline at this moment , but we're as I said in my remarks , has been around for decades in applications like , you know , defense , night vision , industrial applications , machine vision .
Richard Shannon: Awesome. That's great to hear. And then you mentioned quantum photonics. I was just wondering, is this for receiving or operations or routing or sending of photons, essentially?
Richard Shannon: Awesome. That's great to hear. And then you mentioned quantum photonics. I was just wondering, is this for receiving or operations or routing or sending of photons, essentially?
Speaker #1: Illumina technology developed is And it the that is the best we're because of technology its its performance . It just doesn't scale when it's made the sort of conventional way .
Christopher Stewart: In the near term, the work that we're doing is primarily for generating photons. There's significant interest in working with Aeluma to build out an entire platform that could do everything from generate photons, route photons, process, and detect photons with our single photon detector technology. But in the near term, we've been doing sort of foundational work to develop a platform to integrate these highly nonlinear materials on large diameter substrates. We've done that on small substrates. We've done that on 200-mm substrates, and we're working with some partners now to scale that to 300-mm substrates.
Christopher Stewart: In the near term, the work that we're doing is primarily for generating photons. There's significant interest in working with Aeluma to build out an entire platform that could do everything from generate photons, route photons, process, and detect photons with our single photon detector technology. But in the near term, we've been doing sort of foundational work to develop a platform to integrate these highly nonlinear materials on large diameter substrates. We've done that on small substrates. We've done that on 200-mm substrates, and we're working with some partners now to scale that to 300-mm substrates.
Speaker #1: would Otherwise it way make its into consumer electronics . There's a lot of benefits for consumer applications shortwave , infrared offers solar low interference , improved ice safety .
Speaker #1: And what I can say is that the mobile industry is positioning to adopt sphere for future generation products . And so what we see happening is what one went from interest in our technology .
Speaker #1: The industry is gearing up to supply chain for that market . Other than that , I can't comment on on timeline at this moment .
Speaker #5: No , that's that's encouraging that's certainly it . It they're sounds like supply chain , up the it sounds if they're gearing like there's something maybe more solid that's coming down the pipeline that you might be able to announce in the future .
Richard Shannon: And then just one last one to expand on that. Is this pairs or single photons?
Richard Shannon: And then just one last one to expand on that. Is this pairs or single photons?
Speaker #5: Is that—is that kind of fair to think that that is the case?
Christopher Stewart: Primarily pairs.
Christopher Stewart: Primarily pairs.
Richard Shannon: Got it. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Richard Shannon: Got it. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Speaker #1: Yeah . We feel like the plan to adopt sphere for consumer markets is solidifying . It's not just an interest at this stage .
Operator: The next question will come from David Williams with Benchmark. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from David Williams with Benchmark. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Okay . Fantastic . That's really , really nice to . And then maybe just lastly here , if I can , you talked about some pursuing some strategic opportunities really as you move to commercialization .
David Williams: Hey, Jonathan. Chris, thank you, Dylan, for taking the question. Certainly appreciate it. And congrats on the continued progress here. And maybe first, just kind of following on to Tyler's first question about the sales orders. And I know you're not commenting maybe on the end markets, but is there a way to kind of think about maybe the number that you're seeing there in terms of the magnitude of how many customers are actively engaging on that side? And then maybe what are those orders for? You talked about them being small, so I'm assuming they're samples. But are these programs that you think can move into volume scale over time, or maybe just need more color around those sales would be helpful. Thank you.
David Williams: Hey, Jonathan. Chris, thank you, Dylan, for taking the question. Certainly appreciate it. And congrats on the continued progress here. And maybe first, just kind of following on to Tyler's first question about the sales orders. And I know you're not commenting maybe on the end markets, but is there a way to kind of think about maybe the number that you're seeing there in terms of the magnitude of how many customers are actively engaging on that side? And then maybe what are those orders for? You talked about them being small, so I'm assuming they're samples. But are these programs that you think can move into volume scale over time, or maybe just need more color around those sales would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #5: And in the past you've talked about potentially licensing deals on mobile side . So I guess maybe can you speak a little bit about those strategic opportunities that you mentioned in the script ?
Speaker #5: And then also, on the manufacturing side, do you feel like you have the sufficient volume to meet what you see coming down the pipe over the next, say, 12 to 24 months?
Speaker #1: That's a Thanks , David . that's a great question . supply On on chain , as you know , and we've discussed this on prior calls .
Christopher Stewart: So price inquiries are coming from a multitude of markets. We sort of mentioned our key markets, so it's coming from more than one of mobile AI data centers, defense, and quantum. And what I could say is that there's multiple price quotations out there, multiple sales orders coming in, relatively small in size. So we're not increasing our revenue guidance for this year at the time. But we see these as a very important milestone because as more and more requests come in, others follow. So outside of sort of the business-to-business marketing that we do, people are finding out about our technology and what we're building and sending us requests. So we do expect this to grow over time and will likely report on it in future quarterly calls.
Christopher Stewart: So price inquiries are coming from a multitude of markets. We sort of mentioned our key markets, so it's coming from more than one of mobile AI data centers, defense, and quantum. And what I could say is that there's multiple price quotations out there, multiple sales orders coming in, relatively small in size. So we're not increasing our revenue guidance for this year at the time. But we see these as a very important milestone because as more and more requests come in, others follow. So outside of sort of the business-to-business marketing that we do, people are finding out about our technology and what we're building and sending us requests. So we do expect this to grow over time and will likely report on it in future quarterly calls.
Speaker #1: We have a number of supply chain partners , Fab partners materials partners , packaging integration and other supply chain partners . And for every partner or area , there's multiple providers in paths .
Speaker #1: And some paths are better suited for very large volume markets . Some paths are better suited for smaller volume markets , such as defense .
Speaker #1: We haven't shared details of the supply chain at this time , but we hope to in the future . And in terms of strategic opportunities , yes , for any one of the market opportunities that speak of , whether it's mobile AI , data centers or defense , we're always looking at more than one way to get our technology to market , to enable market adoption , whether that be us leading the supply with our partners manufacturing supply chain or transferring process mature to manufacturers and and licensing nothing specific to say at this time .
Christopher Stewart: But at this time, what I could say is that our strategy to focus on defense, mobile AI data centers, and longer-term opportunities in quantum seems to be coming to fruition now.
Christopher Stewart: But at this time, what I could say is that our strategy to focus on defense, mobile AI data centers, and longer-term opportunities in quantum seems to be coming to fruition now.
Speaker #1: But we look at all opportunities. It's possible to get our technology into the market, and how our technology makes its way into these different markets might look different for mobile versus defense, and so on.
Speaker #5: Great . Well , congratulations again . It's it's certainly great to hear the progress looking forward to seeing your success . Thank you .
David Williams: Yeah. Yeah. Certainly appreciate the color there. Then maybe secondly, just stepping back, you talked about SWIR, mobile, and the supply chain kind of ramping to adopt that. Can you talk about maybe where you intercept that generation in terms of builds? And is this something we could see this year or maybe have some indication of a pathway to that adoption for next year in terms of that SWIR on the mobile side? Thank you.
David Williams: Yeah. Yeah. Certainly appreciate the color there. Then maybe secondly, just stepping back, you talked about SWIR, mobile, and the supply chain kind of ramping to adopt that. Can you talk about maybe where you intercept that generation in terms of builds? And is this something we could see this year or maybe have some indication of a pathway to that adoption for next year in terms of that SWIR on the mobile side? Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you David .
Speaker #3: The next question will come from Tim Savageau with Northland Capital Markets . Please go ahead .
Speaker #7: Hey good afternoon . The question more focused on the AI infrastructure side . I think last quarter you mentioned , you know , indications of demand accelerating kind of across the the ecosystem .
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, David. I can't comment on timeline at this moment. But SWIR, as I said in my remarks, has been around for decades in applications like defense, night vision, industrial applications, machine vision. And the InGaAs technology that Aeluma developed is the best SWIR technology because of its performance. It just doesn't scale when it's made the sort of conventional way. Otherwise, it would make its way into consumer electronics. There's a lot of benefits for consumer applications. Short-wave infrared offers low solar interference, improved eye safety. And what I can say is that the mobile industry is positioning to adopt SWIR for future generation products. And so what we see happening is what went from interest in our technology, the industry is gearing up the supply chain for that market. Other than that, I can't comment on timeline at this moment.
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, David. I can't comment on timeline at this moment. But SWIR, as I said in my remarks, has been around for decades in applications like defense, night vision, industrial applications, machine vision. And the InGaAs technology that Aeluma developed is the best SWIR technology because of its performance. It just doesn't scale when it's made the sort of conventional way. Otherwise, it would make its way into consumer electronics. There's a lot of benefits for consumer applications. Short-wave infrared offers low solar interference, improved eye safety. And what I can say is that the mobile industry is positioning to adopt SWIR for future generation products. And so what we see happening is what went from interest in our technology, the industry is gearing up the supply chain for that market. Other than that, I can't comment on timeline at this moment.
Speaker #7: And that driving some acceleration in activities on your part . And I think if anything , you know , over the last week or two we've seen in reports from some of the larger players in the space , maybe .
Speaker #7: Indications of increased acceleration across the device and optical module side . I wonder if that in turn has led to some further degree of acceleration in what you're seeing in terms of AI infrastructure opportunities .
Speaker #7: It seems like your management addition might speak to that, but if you had any more color on that front, kind of at a higher level, that'd be great.
Speaker #1: Yes . And I think you were alluding , Tim , to to some supply chain issues , whether it be sort of turning on capacity for components that are in high demand , substrate supply that's produce the required to wafers .
Speaker #1: There are a interesting multitude of opportunities for And us . the number of inquiries coming in from that space really grows by the day , in part because of supply chain issues , because of demand and supply not being there or not being turned on at the moment talked .
David Williams: No, that's certainly encouraging. It sounds like if they're gearing up the supply chain, it sounds like there's something maybe more solid that's coming down the pipeline that you might be able to announce in the future. Is that kind of fair to think that that is the case?
David Williams: No, that's certainly encouraging. It sounds like if they're gearing up the supply chain, it sounds like there's something maybe more solid that's coming down the pipeline that you might be able to announce in the future. Is that kind of fair to think that that is the case?
Speaker #1: We've about quantum dot lasers and integrated with silicon . That's a little bit more long term for us . What what is very near term is helping meet the demand of other components like high speed detectors that are applicable across a variety of use cases .
Christopher Stewart: Yeah. We feel like the plan to adopt SWIR for consumer markets is solidifying. It's not just an interest at this stage.
Christopher Stewart: Yeah. We feel like the plan to adopt SWIR for consumer markets is solidifying. It's not just an interest at this stage.
David Williams: Okay. Fantastic. That's really nice to hear. And then maybe just lastly here, if I can, you talked about pursuing some strategic opportunities, really, as you move to commercialization. And in the past, you've talked about potentially licensing deals on the mobile side. So I guess maybe can you speak a little bit about those strategic opportunities that you mentioned in the script? And then also on the manufacturing side, do you feel like you have the sufficient volume to meet what you see coming down the pipe over the next, say, 12 to 24 months?
David Williams: Okay. Fantastic. That's really nice to hear. And then maybe just lastly here, if I can, you talked about pursuing some strategic opportunities, really, as you move to commercialization. And in the past, you've talked about potentially licensing deals on the mobile side. So I guess maybe can you speak a little bit about those strategic opportunities that you mentioned in the script? And then also on the manufacturing side, do you feel like you have the sufficient volume to meet what you see coming down the pipe over the next, say, 12 to 24 months?
Speaker #1: So as you as you know , industry the refers to slow and wide for scale out , narrow and fast for scale up in a multitude of cases , whether it be ML or silicon photonics transceivers or voxels , and whether it's pluggable or to NPO .
Speaker #1: co-packaged eventually , the optics And system integrators and performance need high components , higher speed , lower power consumption and the cost requirement needs to be met what's .
Speaker #1: And very interesting is that we've been developing this high speed detector technology for some defense customers , and now people are asking us specifically for some of these slow and wide detectors and detector arrays , or very high speed in gas detectors to enable certain wavelengths and to enable ML or silicon photonics transceivers .
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, David. That's a great question. On supply chain, as you know, and we've discussed this on prior calls, we have a number of supply chain partners: fab partners, materials partners, packaging integration, and other supply chain partners. And for every partner or area, there's multiple providers and paths. And some paths are better suited for very large volume markets. Some paths are better suited for the smaller volume markets such as defense. We haven't shared details of the supply chain at this time, but we hope to in the future.
Christopher Stewart: Thanks, David. That's a great question. On supply chain, as you know, and we've discussed this on prior calls, we have a number of supply chain partners: fab partners, materials partners, packaging integration, and other supply chain partners. And for every partner or area, there's multiple providers and paths. And some paths are better suited for very large volume markets. Some paths are better suited for the smaller volume markets such as defense. We haven't shared details of the supply chain at this time, but we hope to in the future.
Speaker #1: So there appears to be a bottleneck in the industry for some of these high performance components . We the time from the system integrators that they're looking at high speed modulator technology , thin film , lithium niobate .
Speaker #1: I think the laser bottleneck is not something we're going to pursue in the near term , because there are many component can providers that build the lasers that are needed .
Christopher Stewart: In terms of strategic opportunities, yes, for any one of the market opportunities that we speak of, whether it's mobile, AI data centers, or defense, we're always looking at more than one way to get our technology to market, to enable market adoption, whether that be us leading the manufacturing supply with our supply chain partners or transferring process to mature manufacturers and licensing. Nothing specific to say at this time, but we look at all opportunities possible to get our technology into market. How our technology makes its way into these different markets might look different for mobile versus defense and so on.
Christopher Stewart: In terms of strategic opportunities, yes, for any one of the market opportunities that we speak of, whether it's mobile, AI data centers, or defense, we're always looking at more than one way to get our technology to market, to enable market adoption, whether that be us leading the manufacturing supply with our supply chain partners or transferring process to mature manufacturers and licensing. Nothing specific to say at this time, but we look at all opportunities possible to get our technology into market. How our technology makes its way into these different markets might look different for mobile versus defense and so on.
Speaker #1: Meeting the price requirement is going to be a challenge . But high speed modulators and high speed detectors , there's an opportunity there , and our focus is on high speed detectors for for a few different formats and data centers .
Speaker #7: Great . And just to follow up on that , I a lot at least the the indication of demand strength separate from what's happening supply wise is coming at kind of higher speed rates for , I think , mostly for modules , but maybe some some co-packaged stuff as well .
Speaker #7: At 1.6 terabit, I mean, how's the company positioned to address those types of opportunities?
David Williams: Great. Well, congratulations again. It's certainly great to hear the progress, and looking forward to seeing your success. Thank you.
David Williams: Great. Well, congratulations again. It's certainly great to hear the progress, and looking forward to seeing your success. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Very well . And , and that's , that's one of our top priorities for the data center markets . We've been developing high speed detectors .
Christopher Stewart: Thank you, David.
Christopher Stewart: Thank you, David.
Speaker #1: It's a fairly similar platform to the detector platform that we developed for image sensors . The similar materials , slightly different stack , slightly IP different fab flows to enable the high speed .
Operator: The next question will come from Tim Savageau with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question will come from Tim Savageau with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Tim Savageaux: Hey. Good afternoon. The question is more focused on the AI infrastructure side. I think last quarter, you mentioned indications of demand accelerating kind of across the ecosystem and that driving some acceleration in activities on your part. And I think, if anything, over the last week or two, we've seen in reports from some of the larger players in the space maybe indications of increased acceleration across the device and optical module side. I wonder if that, in turn, has led to some further degree of acceleration in what you're seeing in terms of AI infrastructure opportunities. It seems like your management edition might speak to that. But if you had any more color on that front kind of at a higher level, that would be great.
Tim Savageaux: Hey. Good afternoon. The question is more focused on the AI infrastructure side. I think last quarter, you mentioned indications of demand accelerating kind of across the ecosystem and that driving some acceleration in activities on your part. And I think, if anything, over the last week or two, we've seen in reports from some of the larger players in the space maybe indications of increased acceleration across the device and optical module side. I wonder if that, in turn, has led to some further degree of acceleration in what you're seeing in terms of AI infrastructure opportunities. It seems like your management edition might speak to that. But if you had any more color on that front kind of at a higher level, that would be great.
Speaker #1: got , And we've you know , some of the world's leading experts in high speed detectors , 50 , 100GHz bandwidth and beyond .
Speaker #1: that's And exactly what we're doing right now . We're taking our platform that we developed for a government customer for the ten and 25 gig data rates .
Speaker #1: And now expanding it to even higher speeds for some of those applications , whether it be 200 pixels or ML links at 200 G .
Speaker #7: Great, thanks very much.
Speaker #1: Thank you .
Speaker #2: Thanks, Tim. Thanks for joining the call.
Speaker #3: This concludes our question and answer session . I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jonathan Klamkin for any closing remarks .
Speaker #1: Thank you for joining our call today. We look forward to connecting in the future. Wish you a great day.
Christopher Stewart: Yes. And I think you were alluding, Tim, to some supply chain issues, whether it be sort of turning on capacity for components that are in high demand or substrate supply that's required to produce the EPI wafers. There are a multitude of interesting opportunities for us. And the number of inquiries coming in from that space really grows by the day, in part because of supply chain issues, because of demand and supply not being there or not being turned on at the moment. We've talked about quantum dot lasers and integrated with silicon. That's a little bit more long-term for us. What is very near-term is helping meet the demand of other components like high-speed detectors that are applicable across a variety of use cases. So as you know, the industry refers to slow and wide for scale out, narrow and fast for scale up.
Christopher Stewart: Yes. And I think you were alluding, Tim, to some supply chain issues, whether it be sort of turning on capacity for components that are in high demand or substrate supply that's required to produce the EPI wafers. There are a multitude of interesting opportunities for us. And the number of inquiries coming in from that space really grows by the day, in part because of supply chain issues, because of demand and supply not being there or not being turned on at the moment. We've talked about quantum dot lasers and integrated with silicon. That's a little bit more long-term for us. What is very near-term is helping meet the demand of other components like high-speed detectors that are applicable across a variety of use cases. So as you know, the industry refers to slow and wide for scale out, narrow and fast for scale up.
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Christopher Stewart: In a multitude of cases, whether it be EMLs or silicon photonics transceivers or VCSELs and whether it's pluggables or transition to NPO and eventually co-packaged optics, the system integrators and hyperscalers need high-performance components, higher speed, lower power consumption, and the cost requirement needs to be met. What's very interesting is that we've been developing this high-speed detector technology for some defense customers. Now people are asking us specifically for some of these SWIR detectors and detector arrays or very high-speed InGaAs detectors to enable certain wavelengths and to enable EML or silicon photonics transceivers. There appears to be a bottleneck in the industry for some of these high-performance components. We hear all the time from the system integrators that they're looking at high-speed modulator technology, thin-film lithium niobate.
Christopher Stewart: In a multitude of cases, whether it be EMLs or silicon photonics transceivers or VCSELs and whether it's pluggables or transition to NPO and eventually co-packaged optics, the system integrators and hyperscalers need high-performance components, higher speed, lower power consumption, and the cost requirement needs to be met. What's very interesting is that we've been developing this high-speed detector technology for some defense customers. Now people are asking us specifically for some of these SWIR detectors and detector arrays or very high-speed InGaAs detectors to enable certain wavelengths and to enable EML or silicon photonics transceivers. There appears to be a bottleneck in the industry for some of these high-performance components. We hear all the time from the system integrators that they're looking at high-speed modulator technology, thin-film lithium niobate.
Christopher Stewart: I think the laser bottleneck is not something we're going to pursue in the near-term because there are many component providers that can build the lasers that are needed. Meeting the price requirement is going to be a challenge. But high-speed modulators and high-speed detectors, there's an opportunity there. And our focus is on high-speed detectors for a few different formats and data centers.
Christopher Stewart: I think the laser bottleneck is not something we're going to pursue in the near-term because there are many component providers that can build the lasers that are needed. Meeting the price requirement is going to be a challenge. But high-speed modulators and high-speed detectors, there's an opportunity there. And our focus is on high-speed detectors for a few different formats and data centers.
Tim Savageaux: Great. And just to follow up on that, I mean, a lot of at least of the indication of demand strength, separate from what's happening supply-wise, is coming at kind of higher speed rates mostly for modules but maybe some co-packaged stuff as well at 1.6 terabit. I mean, how is the company positioned to address those type of opportunities?
Tim Savageaux: Great. And just to follow up on that, I mean, a lot of at least of the indication of demand strength, separate from what's happening supply-wise, is coming at kind of higher speed rates mostly for modules but maybe some co-packaged stuff as well at 1.6 terabit. I mean, how is the company positioned to address those type of opportunities?
Christopher Stewart: Very well. That's one of our top priorities for the data center markets. We've been developing high-speed detectors. It's a fairly similar platform to the detector platform that we've developed for image sensors, similar materials, slightly different EPI stacks, slightly different fab flows to enable the high speed. We've got some of the world's leading experts in high-speed detectors, 50, 100 gigahertz bandwidth and beyond. That's exactly what we're doing right now. We're taking our platform that we developed for a government customer for the 10 and 25-gig data rates and now expanding it to even higher speeds for some of those applications, whether it be 200G VCSELs or EML links at 200G.
Christopher Stewart: Very well. That's one of our top priorities for the data center markets. We've been developing high-speed detectors. It's a fairly similar platform to the detector platform that we've developed for image sensors, similar materials, slightly different EPI stacks, slightly different fab flows to enable the high speed. We've got some of the world's leading experts in high-speed detectors, 50, 100 gigahertz bandwidth and beyond. That's exactly what we're doing right now. We're taking our platform that we developed for a government customer for the 10 and 25-gig data rates and now expanding it to even higher speeds for some of those applications, whether it be 200G VCSELs or EML links at 200G.
David Williams: Great. Thanks very much.
David Williams: Great. Thanks very much.
Christopher Stewart: Thank you.
Christopher Stewart: Thank you.
Jonathan Klamkin: Thanks, Tim. Thanks for joining the call.
Jonathan Klamkin: Thanks, Tim. Thanks for joining the call.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jonathan Klamkin for any closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jonathan Klamkin for any closing remarks.
Christopher Stewart: Thank you for joining our call today. We look forward to connecting in the future. Wish you a great day.
Christopher Stewart: Thank you for joining our call today. We look forward to connecting in the future. Wish you a great day.
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