Q4 2025 B2Gold Corp Earnings Call

February 19, 2026

Speaker #2: Mike.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Clive. As Clive said, financially, it was a strong quarter. GAAP earnings were $0.13 per share, or $0.11 per share on an adjusted earnings basis.

Speaker #3: And those earnings would have been even stronger if it wasn't for the timing of a late shipment at COLA. COLA had a very strong Q4, and it was just the timing of shipments at year-end.

Speaker #3: We had just over 20,000 ounces that were delivered just after December 31st. So not recorded in revenues for 2025, but recorded in early '26.

Speaker #3: So, revenues—we did record $1.05 billion in the fourth quarter. That included delivering just over 66,000 ounces under our gold prepay obligations. As of today, we've delivered January's tranche, and we're working on February.

Speaker #3: So we're nearly there. We'll have delivered into those, and it'll be wound up by the end of June, '26. Operating cash flows for 2025 are $896 million.

Speaker #3: And that included $286 million in the fourth quarter, which is another strong result. And it highlights the continuing cash generation potential of our operating assets in this very strong gold price environment.

Speaker #3: At balance sheet-wise, we're remaining strong financial position. We had cash and cash equivalents of $380 million at the end of '25. We had drawn $150 million on our revolver.

Speaker #3: At the end of '25 as well, but subsequent to year-end, we paid down another $100 of that. So leaving us with capacity of $750 million on the revolver and a further $200 million in the accordion feature there.

Speaker #3: So lots of capacity there. So overall, I think we maintain excellent financial flexibility to fully repay our obligations under the gold prepays. As I said, by the end of June, complete or other sustaining and growth initiatives.

Speaker #3: So all across our portfolio, and to continue to fund healthy exploration programs. I think you'll see that in our budgets. To extend mine lives, but at the same time, also to return capital to shareholders.

Operator: To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may reach an operator by pressing star then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Clive Johnson, President and CEO of B2Gold. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: And I think that's an important one. During '25, you saw us start to repurchase shares under our NCIB. We repurchased 2 million shares for about $10 million.

Speaker #3: In '25, but subsequent to year-end, we've gone back in. We've purchased another $5 million shares for approximately $24 million. And I think you'll see us continue to do that as the year progresses.

Clive Johnson: Welcome, everyone. As you heard from the operator, we're here to review B2Gold's financial results for 2025. The Q4 of 2025 brought a solid end to what was an exciting year for B2Gold. The Fekola, Masbate, and Otjikoto mines continued our performance, and the first ramp-up quarter at Goose resulted in the strongest consolidated production quarter of the year. Across our portfolio, we celebrated many milestones during 2025. We achieved record revenue of $3 billion. In Mali, we produced our 4 millionth ounce since the inception of the mine and received the Fekola underground exploitation approval, producing over 20,000 ounces from Fekola underground in 2025. We are excited for the future of Fekola underground as it contributes to the Fekola complex as it ramps up to full production. At Goose, we celebrated the first gold pour and commercial production.

Speaker #3: Obviously, with the prepays rolling off, we've got close to an extra $110 million a month coming in now from cash flows post-June. We're currently delivering into those prepays, but we'll have that extra cash flow, I think.

Speaker #3: And I think you'll see us look at that normal course issue of it and see if we can buy some more shares back. Given where we think we assets as we look forward into some very strong cash flow years coming up.

Speaker #3: So, with that, I'll turn the call over to Bill for an operations and project update.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Mike. So I'd say overall, we're pleased with the 2025 operating performance at our sites. Producing approximately $980,000 ounces, which was near the midpoint of guidance.

Speaker #4: Looking forward to 2026, we're anticipating production between $820 and $970,000 ounces. Production is expected to be lower than 2025 due to the planned step-down of Old Dakota following completion of the open pit mining in Q4 2025 and the expected lower production at COLA as stripping of phase eight of the COLA pit continues.

Clive Johnson: This milestone is not one that we celebrated on our own. We look forward to many years of operations in Nunavut, Canada, in close collaboration with our partner, the Kitikmeot Inuit Association, and Kitikmeot communities. In the middle of, B2Gold announced an approved construction decision on the Antelope underground deposit. Production from Antelope has the potential to increase Otjikoto by gold production, leveraging the low-cost platform and extend the life of mine into the 2030s. At Masbate, the operations delivered another year of consistent and safe results, achieving the incredible feat of seven years without a lost time injury. In this strong gold price environment, B2Gold as well is set up to take advantage. With a strong asset portfolio and a flexible balance sheet, and with growth capital spending at Goose, now complete, the company is in a position to add significant shareholder value over the coming years.

Speaker #4: These decreases will be partially offset by the continued ramp-up at the Goose mine. While we only have a small data set so far in 2026, all operations have performed above expectations.

Speaker #4: In Mali, the company expects to receive the approval for the COLA regional exploitation permit during the first quarter of 2026, with production starting in the second half of the year.

Speaker #4: Gold production at COLA is expected to be relatively consistent throughout the year, as production from COLA region was expected to ramp up in the second half to offset decrease in production from COLA phase seven as the COLA pit begins to transition to phase eight.

Clive Johnson: With that, I want to turn the call over to Mike Cinnamond for a discussion of our financial results in the fourth quarter and fiscal year. Mike?

Speaker #4: COLA Regional is expected to contribute between 60,000 and 80,000 ounces in 2026. At Goose, we expect the operation to ramp up throughout the year.

Mike Cinnamond: Thanks, Clive. As Clive said, financially, it was a strong quarter. GAAP earnings were $0.13 per share or eleven cents per share on an adjusted earnings basis. And those earnings would have been even stronger if it wasn't for the timing of the late shipments at Fekola. Fekola had a very strong Q4, just with timing of shipments at year-end. We had just over 20,000 ounces that were delivered, just after 31 December. So not recorded in revenues for 2025, but recorded in early 2026. So revenues, we did record $1.05 billion in the fourth quarter. That included deliveries, 66,000, just over 66,000 ounces under our gold prepay obligations. And as of today, we've delivered January's tranche, and we're working on February, so we're nearly there.

Speaker #4: The crushing circuit, unfortunately, continues to be supplemented with the mobile crusher. Production during the fourth quarter was impacted by unseasonably low temperatures, which affected the performance of the mobile crushing unit. The unit is not enclosed and is susceptible to operational interruptions in extreme cold.

Speaker #4: Initial modifications to improve performance of the crushing circuit in the near term, including the addition of run-of-mine bins and apron feeders, were ordered in late 2025.

Speaker #4: There's scheduled to be implemented in the second half of '26, at which point use of the mobile crusher will cease. The company estimates that the crushing circuit will be able to operate consistently at an average of approximately 3,200 tons per day once these initial modifications are implemented.

Mike Cinnamond: We'll have delivered into those, and they'll be wound up by the end of June 2026. Operating cash flows for 2025 are $896 million, and that included $286 million in the fourth quarter, which is another strong result, and it highlights the continuing cash generation potential of our operating assets in this very strong gold price environment. Balance sheet-wise, we're remaining in strong financial position. We had cash and cash equivalents of $380 million at the end of 2025. We had drawn $150 million on our revolver at the end of 2025 as well, but subsequent to year-end, we paid down another $100 million of that.

Speaker #4: Capital for the initial phase has been included in the 2026 operating budget. The company is studying a more comprehensive crushing circuit improvement to increase design capacity of existing crushing circuit to enable it to run at an average of 4,000 tons per day.

Speaker #4: These studies will be finalized in the first half of '26, at which point the company will determine the optimal scope and timing of additional crushing circuit improvements.

Speaker #4: Capital for the second phase has not been included in the 2026 budget. And while the studies are currently ongoing, I reiterate the studies are currently ongoing.

Speaker #4: The company believes the overall cost to implement these improvements will be in the tens of millions of dollars, and not material to the scope of the operation.

Mike Cinnamond: So leaving us with capacity of $750 million on the revolver and a further $200 million in the accordion feature there. So lots of capacity there. So overall, I think we maintain excellent financial flexibility to fully repay our obligations under the gold prepays, as I said, by the end of June, and complete our other sustaining and growth initiatives, so all across our portfolio. And to continue to fund healthy exploration programs, I think you'll see that in our budgets. To extend mine lives, I know, but at the same time, also to return capital to shareholders, and I think that's an important one. During 2025, you saw us start to repurchase shares under our NCIB.

Speaker #4: At Moss Body, the operation continues to perform well with a world-class safety track record. Mine throughput significantly outperformed expectations in 2025 and achieved a record for the second year in a row.

Speaker #4: We anticipate another year of consistent operations in 2026. At Old Dakota, the operation had a fantastic year, with strong production from the final phase of the open pit achieving the upper end of its guidance range for 2025.

Speaker #4: Given the planned completion of the open pit activities, we expect lower production in 2026 as the mine transitions to processing only Wolfshag underground ore, supplemented by low-grade stockpiles.

Mike Cinnamond: We repurchased 2 million shares for about $10 million in 2025, but subsequent to year-end, we've gone back in, we've purchased another 5 million shares for approximately $24 million. And I think you'll see us continue to do that as the year progresses. Obviously, with the prepays rolling off, we've got close to an extra $110 million a month coming in now from cash flows post-June. We're currently delivering into those prepays, but we'll have that extra cash flow, I think, and I think you'll see us look at that normal course issuer bid and see if we can buy some more shares back, given where we think we are and where we think we're going with our assets as we look forward into some very strong cash flows coming up.

Speaker #4: The company has begun development of the Antelope deposit, which we believe has the potential to increase Old Dakota mine gold production to an average of approximately 110,000 ounces, from 2029 through 2032.

Speaker #4: With that, I'll turn it back over to Clive for the intro into the Q&A.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Bill. Let's open it up for Q&A.

Speaker #6: Certainly. We will now begin the analyst question-and-answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You'll hear a tone acknowledging your request.

Speaker #6: If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, press star then two. Our first question is from Fahad Tariq with Jefferies.

Mike Cinnamond: With that, I'll turn the call over to Bill for an operation and project update.

Bill Lytle: Yeah. Thanks, Mike. So I'd say overall, we're pleased with the 2025 operating performance at our sites, producing approximately 980,000 ounces, which was near the midpoint of guidance. Looking forward to 2026, we're anticipating production between 820,000 and 970,000 ounces. Production is expected to be lower than 2025 due to the planned step down of Otjikoto, following completion of the open pit mining in Q4 2025, and the expected lower production at Fekola as stripping of phase eight of the Fekola pit continues. These decreases will be partially offset by the continued ramp-up at the Goose Mine. While we only have a small data set so far in 2026, all operations have performed above expectations.

Speaker #6: Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Just on COLA Regional, can you give us maybe the latest conversations you're having or not having with the government, and what gives you the confidence that the permit could be in the first quarter of this year?

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #5: Yeah. Thanks. It's Randall to respond to this one. Over 25, I think part of our confidence goes to the movement that we saw over the course of the year.

Speaker #5: This was a permit that took all of the ability of the Malian government to come up with a consolidation that had never been done before in Mali under the 2023 mining code.

Speaker #5: And so for us to be able to move that through last year and get to a point right now where we do have the endorsement of the Minister of Mines, the endorsement of the Minister of Finance on this permit has been pushed through.

Bill Lytle: In Mali, the company expects to receive the approval for the Fekola Regional Exploitation Permit during Q1 2026, with production starting in the second half of the year. Gold production at Fekola is expected to be relatively consistent throughout the year, as production from Fekola Regional was expected to ramp up in the second half to offset decrease in production from Fekola Phase 7, as the Fekola pit begins to transition to Phase 8. Fekola Regional is expected to contribute between 60,000 and 80,000 ounces in 2026. At Goose, we expect the operation to ramp up throughout the year. The crushing circuit, unfortunately, continues to be supplemented with the mobile crusher.

Speaker #5: The technical group, the review has been completed. It is sitting with the president and the newly formed mining commissioner, Hilaire Diara, and we are in very regular dialogue in addition, moving forward with the underground exploitation and, as you've seen, barracks Lulu permit get extended.

Speaker #5: The government is moving these things forward. It is slower than we would like, for sure. But there is constant dialogue on the process, and that's really what gives us the confidence that we're going to see it in the near future.

Bill Lytle: Production during Q4 was impacted by unseasonably low temperatures, impacting the performance of the mobile crushing unit, which is not enclosed and is susceptible to operational interruptions in extreme cold. Initial modifications to improve performance of the crushing circuit in the near term, including the addition of run of mine bins and apron feeders, were ordered in late 2025. They're scheduled to be implemented in the second half of 2026, at which point, use of the mobile crusher will cease. The company estimates that the crushing circuit will be able to operate consistently at an average of approximately 3,200 tons per day, once these initial modifications are implemented. Capital for the initial phase has been included in the 2026 operating budget.

Speaker #7: Got it. And then just maybe switching gears to Goose, I believe there was an internal study that was being done with FL Smith to figure out the permanent crusher solution and what that would entail and how it would be the specifications for it.

Speaker #7: Can you just share anything else from that study that came about, if that's been completed, and what that means for the second half of this year at Goose?

Speaker #5: Yeah. So the study, as you correctly said by FL Smith, was completed. It's been delivered to Lycopodium, who's going to be the engineer of record.

Speaker #5: They're in the process of reviewing that study. And then, of course, it has to go out for once the final design is set, it's got to go out for cost bids and we have to come back with the final study is.

Speaker #5: So I think we've been very open that we're not really going to have final answers until April. What we know is that the first part is the apron/the apron feeder and the hopper.

Bill Lytle: The company is studying a more comprehensive crushing circuit improvement to increase design capacity of the existing crushing circuit to enable it to run at an average of 4,000 tons per day. These studies will be finalized in the first half of 2026, at which point the company will determine the optimal scope and timing of additional crushing circuit improvements. Capital for the second phase has not been included in the 2026 budget, and while the studies are currently ongoing, I reiterate, the studies are currently ongoing, the company believes the overall cost to implement these improvements will be in the $10s of millions and not material to the scope of the operation. At Masbate, the operation continues to perform well with a world-class safety track record.

Speaker #5: That's phase one. The second half, after April, will come out with the final guidance. But we did, I think we did talk about this kind of tens of millions of dollars.

Speaker #5: So the phase one was 7 million and all that's in the budget. The second half is this tens of millions of dollars, but once again, without having a study, we're probably somewhere in the middle of that.

Speaker #5: So it's probably something like 50 million Canadian of which time we'll be purchasing equipment. And there is the opportunity there's two choices. One, depending on what the final decision is, we could hurk it in.

Bill Lytle: Mine throughput significantly outperformed expectations in 2025 and achieved a record for the second year in a row. We anticipate another year of consistent operations in 2026. At Otjikoto, the operation had a fantastic year, with strong production from the final phase of the open pit, achieving the upper end of its guidance range for 2025. Given the planned completion of the open pit activities, we expect lower production in 2026 as the mine transitions to processing only Wolfshag underground ore, supplemented by low-grade stockpiles. The company has begun development of the Antelope deposit, which we believe has the potential to increase Otjikoto mine gold production to an average of approximately 110,000 ounces from 2029 through 2032. With that, I'll turn it back over to Clive for the intro into the Q&A.

Speaker #5: So we could bring it in on plane. This year, or we'd have to bring it up the road next year. Those are the two options, which have yet to be finalized.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #6: The next question is from Anita Soni with CRDC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Hi, Bill. Just to follow up on Fahad's question on the throughput, could you just I understood the issue with the hopper and the crusher, but what is preventing it from getting to 4,000?

Speaker #8: I thought that initial fix was going to be the final solution. Can you talk about the second portion of it?

Speaker #5: Yeah, I can. It really is a design factor. So, we can run at 4,000. We just can't keep it at 4,000 all day, every day.

Randall Chatwin: Thanks, Bill. Let's open it up for Q&A.

Clive Johnson: Thanks, Bill. Let's open it up for Q&A.

Speaker #5: And so we can't catch up ever. So if the crusher goes down for whatever, for maintenance or there's a blockage or that type of stuff, then suddenly we're behind and we can't catch up.

Operator: Certainly. We will now begin the analyst question-and-answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. You'll hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, press star, then two. Our first question is from Fahad Tariq with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: So this next study is talking about expanding the capacity of the crusher with a safety, or with a connector.

Speaker #6: All right. So getting to 6,000 would just allow you to potentially maybe a little bit more, but average the 4,000. Is that the case?

Speaker #5: Yeah, I didn't say 6,000 for sure. I don't think we're going to.

[Analyst] (Jefferies): Hi, thanks for taking my question. Just on Fekola Regional, can you just give us maybe the latest conversations you're having or not having with the government, and what gives you the confidence that the permit could be in Q1 of this year? Thanks.

Fahad Tariq: Hi, thanks for taking my question. Just on Fekola Regional, can you just give us maybe the latest conversations you're having or not having with the government, and what gives you the confidence that the permit could be in Q1 of this year? Thanks.

Speaker #6: I know your MDNA does say something about evaluating going to 6,000 ultimately.

Speaker #5: Well, no. The MDNA really was a different issue related to sending the overall circuit to 6,000. This is completely tied around the crushing circuit.

Randall Chatwin: Yeah, thanks. It's Randall, respond to this one. You know, over 25, I think part of our, our confidence goes to the movement that we saw over the course of the year. This was a permit that took, you know, all of the ability of the Mali government to come up with a consolidation that had never been done before in Mali under the 2023 mining code. And so for us to be able to move that through last year and get to a point right now where we do have the endorsement of the Minister of Mines, the endorsement of the Minister of Finance on this permit, has been pushed through the technical group.

Speaker #6: Okay. All right. Thanks. And then just on OJICOTO, I wasn't quite clear about when Antelope would come on stream. I think this capital spending is 26 and 27, but is 28 a ramp-up year and then 29 to 32 is where you exceed 110?

Speaker #6: And then what would '27 and '28 look like in terms of production?

Speaker #5: Yeah. So the answer is yes. To the first part, that 27 and 28 are kind of years, which we're continuing to build. With 29 being a ramp-up, I mean, once again, given the fact we haven't even ordered equipment, it's maybe a bit premature to talk about when ramp-up will happen.

Randall Chatwin: The review has been completed. It is sitting with the president and the newly formed mining commissioner, Hilaire Diarra, and we are in very regular dialogue. In addition, you know, moving forward with the underground exploitation, and as you've seen, Barrick's Loulo permit get extended, the government is moving these things forward. It is slower than we would like, for sure, but there is constant dialogue on the process, and that's really what gives us the confidence that we're gonna see it in the near future.

Speaker #5: But we are talking about 29 and then through 32 being production. And what it looks like what it looks like in 27 and 28 is kind of that it looks like just look at my numbers here.

Speaker #5: I see life of mine at OJICOTO kind of 78 and 27 and 64 in 28.

Speaker #6: Okay. And then at Fekola, could you give us a bit of a breakout in terms of what's coming from the open pit and the underground, and then also—excluding the regional—where you've got 70 to, I guess it was 70 to 80 or 60 to 80 thousand ounces?

[Analyst] (Jefferies): Got it. And then just maybe switching gears to Goose. I believe there was an internal study that was being done with FLSmidth, to figure out the permanent crusher solution and what that would entail and how it would be, like, the specifications for it. Can you just share anything else from that study that came about, if that's been completed, and what that means for the second half of this year at Goose?

Fahad Tariq: Got it. And then just maybe switching gears to Goose. I believe there was an internal study that was being done with FLSmidth, to figure out the permanent crusher solution and what that would entail and how it would be, like, the specifications for it. Can you just share anything else from that study that came about, if that's been completed, and what that means for the second half of this year at Goose?

Speaker #6: The breakout between the underground and the open pit and sort of what grades and tonnage we were looking at in each?

Speaker #5: Yeah. I don't have the grades and tonnage in front of me, but I do have. The gross number. So you could back calculate for sure.

Bill Lytle: Yeah. So the study, as you correctly said, by FLSmidth, was completed. It's been delivered to Lycopodium, who's gonna be the engineer of record. They're in the process of reviewing that study, and then, of course, it has to go out for, you know, once the final design is set, it's got to go out for cost bids, and we have to come back with what the final study is. So, you know, I think we've been very open that we're not really gonna have final answers until April. What we know is that the first part is the apron slash the apron feeder and the hopper, that is, I think that's phase one. The second half, after April, we'll come out with what the final guidance is.

Speaker #5: So from the underground, I'm showing 71,000 in 26. And then the combination of FACOLA and Cardinal is I'm showing 300,000. So a total of 371 minus the regional.

Speaker #6: Okay. And then the underground, sorry, do you know what the grades are at the underground or no? Sorry, the tonnage that you would be pulling.

Speaker #5: Yeah. Well, I think we're mining at 1,500 tons per day there. So I'll have a guy check out where we're on this call just to make sure, but I think it's 1,500 tons.

Speaker #6: Right. Okay. Thank you. That's it for my questions. Once again, any analysts who have a question can press star one on your telephone keypad.

Bill Lytle: But we did... You know, I think we did talk about this kind of, you know, CAD tens of millions. So the first, the phase one was, is CAD 7 million and all that's in the budget. The second half is this CAD tens of millions, but once again, without having a study, we're probably somewhere in the middle of that. So, you know, it's probably something like CAD 50 million, at which time we'll be purchasing equipment. And there is the opportunity, there's two choices. One, depending on what the final decision is, we could Herc it in, so we could bring it in on plane, this year, or we'd have to bring it up the road next year. Those are the two options which have yet to be finalized.

Speaker #6: You'll hear a tone acknowledging your request. The next question is from Carrie McGreary with Catacort Genuity. Please go ahead.

Speaker #9: Hey, good morning, guys. I'm just wondering how we should think about ASIC at Goose once you're at 3,200 tons a day versus your guidance.

Speaker #10: So well, what I'd say, Carrie, you can see obviously there's an ASIC ramp-up in 26 and the budget numbers. And that's based on obviously much lower range production than we see when we get to steady state.

[Analyst] (Jefferies): Okay. Thank you.

Fahad Tariq: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #10: So I think you can see it's definitely stepping down. ASIC, we're doing an updated Goose study to incorporate, I think, the all of the elements of this new crushing study and what we plan to do.

Operator: The next question is from Anita Soni with CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Anita Soni: Hi, Bill. Just to follow up on Todd's question on the throughput, could you just, I understood the issue with the hopper and the crusher, but what is preventing it from getting to 4,000? I thought that was that initial fix was gonna be the final solution. Can you talk about the second portion of it?

Speaker #10: But the goal is that we get ramped up to that 4,000 tons per day, maybe a little bit further into 2027. So once we've got stage two of the crusher remediation done, then you'll see our Goose all-in sustaining costs step down significantly from what we've put out in the budget here.

Bill Lytle: Yeah, I can. It really is a design factor. So we can run at 4,000, we just can't keep it at 4,000 all day, every day, and so, you know, we can't catch up ever. So if the crusher goes down for whatever, for maintenance or there's a blockage or that type of stuff, then suddenly we're behind, and we can't catch up. So this next study is talking about expanding the capacity of the crusher with the safety or with the factor.

Speaker #9: Okay. And then maybe just on the cash taxes, you've given guidance at $5,000 an ounce. Would you happen to know what that would be at, like, $4,500 or so?

Speaker #9: Is there any sensitivity around that number?

Speaker #10: I'm so sorry. What was the second part of your question, Carrie, on the cash tax?

Speaker #9: Just like your cash tax guidance is done at $5,000 an ounce, I was just wondering what that would look like at $4,500 or so.

Speaker #10: Well, yeah, you could probably if you take what's there and multiply by an effective average rate at 30% for the step-down, that'll probably get you somewhere in the ballpark.

Anita Soni: ... All right, so getting to 6,000 would just allow you to potentially, maybe, maybe a little bit more, but average the 4,000. Is that the case?

Bill Lytle: Yeah. I didn't say 6,000 for sure. I don't think-

Anita Soni: No, no, I know. Your MD&A does say something about evaluating going to 6,000.

Speaker #10: Remember, the thing to remember with those cash taxes is we're showing you what we think it is and we have to make assumptions about how much we repatriate from sites.

Bill Lytle: Well, no, the MD&A really was a different issue related to sending the overall circuit to 6,000. This is completely tied around the crushing circuit.

Speaker #10: Right? So with these higher gold prices, we're pulling up a lot of cash. And so it's not a linear step-down from 5,000 to 42 because there are withholding taxes on those dividends.

Anita Soni: Okay. All right, thanks. And then just on Otjikoto, I wasn't quite clear about when Antelope would come on stream. I think this capital spending is 2026 and 2027, but is 2028 a ramp-up year, and then 2029 to 2032 is where you exceed 110? And then what would 2027 and 2028 look like in terms of production?

Speaker #10: But if you want to quantify it, very high level what it is, take the difference of gold price, multiply it by the production ounces, and take 30% of it, you'll get in the ballpark of what the impact of cash taxes would be.

Speaker #10: We did get back cash tax guidance just to show you what it looks like around the whole group because you can see in 2025's cash tax numbers, we'd over half a billion and withholding taxes on that was 130 million plus.

Bill Lytle: Yeah. So, so the answer is yes, to the first part, that 2027 and 2028 are kind of years which, which we're continuing to build, with 2029 being a ramp-up. I mean, once again, given the fact we haven't even ordered equipment, it's, it's maybe a bit premature to talk about when ramp-up will happen. But we are talking about 2029 and then through 2032 being production. And what it looks like, what it looks like in 2027 and 2028 is, is kind of that, it looks like, just looking at my numbers here. I see life of mine at Otjikoto, kind of 78 in 2027 and 64 in 2028.

Speaker #10: So it's want to remind everyone all the analysts for your models, you got to put those withholdings in to see the impact of the higher gold prices.

Speaker #10: And we pull back over a billion from sites June 25. So we wanted to give you that guidance in ’26 as well, just to show you what it would be at 5,000, and withholdings somewhere in that $115 million range at 5,000 is the impact for the year.

Speaker #9: All right. Great. Thanks, Mike.

Speaker #6: This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Clive Johnson for closing remarks.

Anita Soni: Okay. And then at Fekola, could you give us a bit of a breakout in terms of what's coming from the open pit and the underground? And then also, so excluding the regional, where you've got 70,000 to, I guess, it was 70,000 to 80,000 or 60,000 to 80,000 ounces, the breakout between the underground and the open pit and sort of what grades and tonnage we're looking at in each.

Speaker #11: Okay. Thank you all for those good questions. Sorry, operator.

Speaker #6: Pardon the interruption.

Speaker #11: For somebody else?

Speaker #6: I apologize for the interruption. Have you finished your concluding remarks?

Speaker #11: Okay. Yes. Thank you, operator, for the exhibit one for attending. And for your questions.

Bill Lytle: Yeah. I don't have the grades and tonnage in front of me, but I do have the gross numbers, so you could back calculate for sure. So from the underground, I'm showing 71,000 in 2026.

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Anita Soni: Okay.

Bill Lytle: And then the combination of Fekola and Cardinal is, I'm showing, 300,000, so a total of 371,000, minus the regional.

Anita Soni: Okay. And then, the underground. Sorry, could you... Do you know what the grades are at the underground or no? Or, sorry, the tonnage, if you, the tonnage that you would be pulling.

Bill Lytle: Yeah. Well, I think we're mining at 1,500 tons per day there, so I'll have a guy check it while we're on this call just to make sure, but I think it's 1,500 tons per.

Anita Soni: All right. Thank you. That's it for my questions.

Operator: Once again, any analyst who has a question can press star then one on your telephone keypad. You'll hear a tone acknowledging your request. The next question is from Kerry Smith with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Kerry Smith: Hi, good morning, guys. I'm just wondering how we should think about AISC at Goose once you're at 3,200 tons a day versus your guidance.

Mike Cinnamond: Well, what I'd say, Kerry, you can see obviously there's an AISC ramp-up in 2026 in the budget numbers. And, you know, that's based on obviously much lower range of production than we see when we get to steady state. So I think you can see us definitely stepping down AISC. We're doing an updated Goose study to incorporate, I think, all of the elements of this new crushing study and what we plan to do. But the goal is that we get ramped up to that 4,000 tons per day, maybe a little bit further into 2027. So once we've got stage two of the crusher remediation done, then you'll see our Goose all-in sustaining costs step down significantly from what we've put out in the budget here.

Kerry Smith: Okay. And then maybe just on the cash taxes, you've given guidance at $5,000 an ounce. Is there-- would you happen to know what that'd be at, like, 4,500 or so? Is there any sensitivity around that number?

Mike Cinnamond: So sorry, what was the second part of your question, Kerry, on the cash?

Kerry Smith: Just like your cash tax guidance is done at $5,000 an ounce, I'm just wondering what that would look like at $4,500 or so?

Mike Cinnamond: Well, yeah, you could, you could probably... If you take what's there and then multiply it by an effective average rate at 30% for the step down, that'll probably get you somewhere in the ballpark. Remember, the thing to remember of those cash taxes is, we're showing you what we think it is, and we have to make assumptions about how much we repatriate from sites, right? So at these higher gold prices, we're pulling up a lot of cash. And so it's not a linear step down from $5,000 to $42 because there are withholding taxes on those dividends. But if you want to quantify it, very high level, what it is, take the difference of gold price, multiply it by the production ounces, and take 30% of it.

Mike Cinnamond: You'll get the ballpark of what the impact of cash taxes would be. We did give that cash tax guidance just to show you what it looks like around the whole group, because you can see in 2025's cash tax numbers, you know, we're over $500 million, and, and withholding taxes on that was $130 million plus. So it's, want to remind everyone, all the analysts, for your models, you've got to put those withholdings in to see the impact of the higher gold prices. And we pulled back over $1 billion from sites during 2025. So we wanted to give you that guidance in 2026 as well, just to show you what it would be at $5,000 and withholding somewhere in that $150 million range at $5,000 is, is the impact for the year.

Kerry Smith: All right, great. Thanks, Mike.

Operator: This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Clive Johnson for closing remarks.

Bill Lytle: Okay. Thank you all for those good questions. So... Sorry, operator.

Operator: Pardon the interruption.

Bill Lytle: There's somebody else?

Operator: I apologize for the interruption. Have you finished your concluding remarks?

Bill Lytle: Okay. Yes, thank you, operator. Thanks, everyone, for attending and, for your questions.

Operator: Thank you. This brings to an end today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.

Bill Lytle: Thanks, operator.

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