Q4 2025 Inter Parfums Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings, welcome to the Inter Parfums Q4 2025 Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow a formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Devin Sullivan, Managing Director of The Equity Group. Thank you. You may begin.
Operator: Greetings, welcome to the Inter Parfums Q4 2025 Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow a formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Devin Sullivan, Managing Director of The Equity Group. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker #2: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
Speaker #2: It is not my pleasure to introduce Devin Sullivan, managing director of the Equity Group. Thank you. You may begin. Thank you. And good morning, everyone.
Devin Sullivan: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Joining us on the call this morning will be Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jean Madar, and Chief Financial Officer, Michel Atwood. As a reminder, this conference call may contain forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to be materially different from projected results. These factors may be found in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission under the headings "Forward-Looking Statements" and "Risk Factors." Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made. Interparfums undertakes no obligation to update the information discussed. Interparfums' consolidated results include two business segments, European-based operations through Interparfums SA, the company's 72 owned French subsidiary in US-based operations. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Jean Madar.
Devin Sullivan: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Joining us on the call this morning will be Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jean Madar, and Chief Financial Officer, Michel Atwood. As a reminder, this conference call may contain forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to be materially different from projected results. These factors may be found in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission under the headings "Forward-Looking Statements" and "Risk Factors." Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made. Interparfums undertakes no obligation to update the information discussed. Interparfums' consolidated results include two business segments, European-based operations through Interparfums SA, the company's 72 owned French subsidiary in US-based operations. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Jean Madar.Jean, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us today. Joining us on the call this morning will be Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jean Madar and Chief Financial Officer Michel Atwood.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, this conference call may contain forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to be materially different from projected results.
Speaker #2: These factors may be found in the company's filings with the securities and exchange commission under the headings forward-looking statements and risk factors. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made, and INTERPARFUMS undertakes no obligation to update the information discussed.
Speaker #2: INTERPARFUMS consolidated results include two business segments: European-based operations through INTERPARFUMS SA, the company's 72%-owned French subsidiary, and United States-based operations. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Jean Madar.
Speaker #2: Jean, please go ahead. Thank you, Devin. And good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us on today's call. 2025 was a record year for INTERPARFUMS.
Devin Sullivan: Jean, please go ahead.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Devin, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. 2025 was a record year for Interparfums, with sales rising to $1.49 billion, including Q4 sales of $386 million, representing our best ever Q4 performance. We saw the industry, including ourselves, return to a more historically normalized level of growth. While new and ongoing challenges, such as tariffs and exchange rate pressures, have influenced the environment, we have been able to manage through them with disciplined operational execution. Fragrance remains a resilient category and is widely considered an everyday essential luxury that delivers an irreplaceable experience of self, of self-expression, and daily indulgence.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Devin, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. 2025 was a record year for Interparfums, with sales rising to $1.49 billion, including Q4 sales of $386 million, representing our best ever Q4 performance. We saw the industry, including ourselves, return to a more historically normalized level of growth. While new and ongoing challenges, such as tariffs and exchange rate pressures, have influenced the environment, we have been able to manage through them with disciplined operational execution. Fragrance remains a resilient category and is widely considered an everyday essential luxury that delivers an irreplaceable experience of self, of self-expression, and daily indulgence.
Speaker #2: We've sailed, rising to $1.49 billion. Including fourth quarter sales of $386 million, representing our best-ever fourth quarter performance. We saw the industry, including ourselves, return to a more historically normalized level of growth.
Speaker #2: And while new and ongoing challenges such as tariffs and exchange rate pressures have influenced the environment, we have been able to manage through them with disciplined operational execution.
Speaker #2: Fragrance remains a resilient category, and is widely considered an everyday essential luxury that delivers an irreplaceable experience of self-expression and daily indulgence. In 2025, we energized our portfolio through the launch of several blockbuster fragrances, and new line extensions across our brands.
Jean Madar: In 2025, we energized our portfolio through the launch of several blockbuster fragrances and new line extensions across our brands, including the introduction of Solferino, our first proprietary ultra-luxury offering, and strengthen our marketing efforts with impactful advertising and promotional support. Our diverse portfolio of fragrances attracted consumers throughout the year, with impressive annual performances by several of our top brands, as well as brands newer to our portfolio, such as Lacoste and Roberto Cavalli. We generated growth in the majority of our markets, made meaningful progress to improve efficiencies, and optimize our supply chain to mitigate cost pressure and support long-term growth, and continue to deepen our sales reach on increasingly meaningful platforms such as digital and travel.
Jean Madar: In 2025, we energized our portfolio through the launch of several blockbuster fragrances and new line extensions across our brands, including the introduction of Solferino, our first proprietary ultra-luxury offering, and strengthen our marketing efforts with impactful advertising and promotional support. Our diverse portfolio of fragrances attracted consumers throughout the year, with impressive annual performances by several of our top brands, as well as brands newer to our portfolio, such as Lacoste and Roberto Cavalli. We generated growth in the majority of our markets, made meaningful progress to improve efficiencies, and optimize our supply chain to mitigate cost pressure and support long-term growth, and continue to deepen our sales reach on increasingly meaningful platforms such as digital and travel.
Speaker #2: Including the introduction of sulfurino, our first proprietary ultra-luxury offering, and strengthened our marketing efforts with impactful advertising and promotional support. Our diverse portfolio of fragrances attracted consumers throughout the year, with impressive annual performances by several of our top brands, as well as brands newer to our portfolio, such as Lacoste and Roberto Cavalli.
Speaker #2: We generated growth in the majority of our market, made meaningful progress to improve efficiencies, and optimized our supply chain to mitigate cost pressure. And support long-term growth.
Speaker #2: And continue to deepen our sales reach on increasingly meaningful platforms, such as digital and travel. We deliver the high level of client service, maintained a strong financial position, and continued to skillfully navigate lingering macroeconomic headwinds in certain key markets, mainly caused by the effect of tariffs and trade destocking and, of course, geopolitical conflicts.
Jean Madar: We delivered a high level of client service, maintained a strong financial position, and continued to skillfully navigate lingering macroeconomic headwinds in certain key markets, mainly caused by the effect of tariffs and trade destocking and of course, geopolitical conflicts. Innovation will continue to define our success, including the rollout of brands recently signed or acquired, namely Longchamp, Off-White, and Goutal, as well as a 15-year extension of our GUESS license and our strengthening partnership with Authentic Brands Group and their exciting brand portfolio. We will touch on that shortly. I'm very proud of our team for their hard work and dedication. These record results and continuing operational progress reflect their shared commitment to our pursuit of excellence.
Jean Madar: We delivered a high level of client service, maintained a strong financial position, and continued to skillfully navigate lingering macroeconomic headwinds in certain key markets, mainly caused by the effect of tariffs and trade destocking and of course, geopolitical conflicts. Innovation will continue to define our success, including the rollout of brands recently signed or acquired, namely Longchamp, Off-White, and Goutal, as well as a 15-year extension of our GUESS license and our strengthening partnership with Authentic Brands Group and their exciting brand portfolio. We will touch on that shortly. I'm very proud of our team for their hard work and dedication. These record results and continuing operational progress reflect their shared commitment to our pursuit of excellence.
Speaker #2: Innovation will continue to define our success, including the rollout of brands recently signed or acquired, namely Longchamp, Off-White, and Goutard, as well as the 15-year extension of our guest license, and our strengthening partnership with authentic brand group and their exciting brand portfolio.
Speaker #2: We will touch on that shortly. I'm very proud of our team for their hard work and dedication, this record result, and continuing operational progress reflect their shared commitment to our pursuit of excellence.
Speaker #2: Now, on to discussion of our results and operating activities. As we noted on last quarter's call, we expected that fourth quarter sales will be supported by new rollouts late in the third quarter and a robust holiday sales season.
Jean Madar: Now, on to discussion of our results and operating activities. As we noted on last quarter's call, we expected that Q4 sales will be supported by new rollouts late in Q3 and the robust holiday sales seasons. That is exactly what happened. Consolidated 2025 Q4 sales rose 7% on a reported basis and 3% on an organic basis, driven by higher sales for both US and European-based operations. Sales by our US operations increased 4% in Q4 of 2025, driven by performance from our 2 largest US-based brands, GUESS and Donna Karan Beauty NY, and even greater growth from Cavalli and MCM. Excluding the phase out of dunhill fragrance that was completed in August 2024, full year 25 for US operation, sales declined 3%.
Jean Madar: Now, on to discussion of our results and operating activities. As we noted on last quarter's call, we expected that Q4 sales will be supported by new rollouts late in Q3 and the robust holiday sales seasons. That is exactly what happened. Consolidated 2025 Q4 sales rose 7% on a reported basis and 3% on an organic basis, driven by higher sales for both US and European-based operations. Sales by our US operations increased 4% in Q4 of 2025, driven by performance from our 2 largest US-based brands, GUESS and Donna Karan Beauty NY, and even greater growth from Cavalli and MCM. Excluding the phase out of dunhill fragrance that was completed in August 2024, full year 25 for US operation, sales declined 3%.
Speaker #2: And that is exactly what happened. Consolidated 2025 fourth quarter sales rose 7% on a reported basis, and 3% on an organic basis, driven by higher sales for both US and European-based operations.
Speaker #2: Sales by our US operations increased 4% in the fourth quarter of 2025, driven by performance from our two largest US-based brands, Guess and Donna Karan DK&Y, and even greater growth from Cavalli and MCM.
Speaker #2: Excluding the phase-out of Dunhill fragrance that was completed in August 2024, full year '25 for US operation sales declined 3%. Fragrance sales of Guess and Donna Karan returned to growth in the fourth quarter, with increases of 7% and 8% respectively.
Jean Madar: Fragrance sales of GUESS and Donna Karan returned to growth in Q4, with increases of 7% and 8%, respectively. GUESS continues to benefit from the ongoing success of the iconic and seductive franchise, as well as the Q3 introduction of GUESS La Mia Bella Vita. Donna Karan growth was mainly driven by the Cashmere Mist and DKNY Be Delicious franchises. For the full year, GUESS sales were flat, and the Donna Karan DKNY decline of 4% was mostly due to unfavorable growth comparisons related to the timing of 2024 product launches. In just the second full year under our management, Cavalli fragrance sales rose 33% in both Q4 and full year, a testament to our ability to elevate a brand's profile creatively and strategically.
Jean Madar: Fragrance sales of GUESS and Donna Karan returned to growth in Q4, with increases of 7% and 8%, respectively. GUESS continues to benefit from the ongoing success of the iconic and seductive franchise, as well as the Q3 introduction of GUESS La Mia Bella Vita. Donna Karan growth was mainly driven by the Cashmere Mist and DKNY Be Delicious franchises. For the full year, GUESS sales were flat, and the Donna Karan DKNY decline of 4% was mostly due to unfavorable growth comparisons related to the timing of 2024 product launches. In just the second full year under our management, Cavalli fragrance sales rose 33% in both Q4 and full year, a testament to our ability to elevate a brand's profile creatively and strategically.
Speaker #2: Guess continues to benefit from the ongoing success of the iconic and seductive franchise, as well as the Q3 introduction of Guess Lamia Bella Vita.
Speaker #2: Donna Karan growth was mainly driven by the Kashmir mist and DK&Y B Delicious franchises. For the full year, Guess sales were flat, and the Donna Karan DK&Y decline of 4% was mostly due to unfavorable growth comparisons related to the timing of 2024 product launches.
Speaker #2: In just the second full year under our management, Cavalli fragrance sales rose 33% in both the fourth quarter and full year. A testament to our ability to elevate a brand's profile creatively and strategically.
Speaker #2: The exclusive May-August introduction of Roberto Cavalli Serpentine at Dubai Duty Free was highly successful, and has helped drive significant brand market share growth in the region.
Jean Madar: The exclusive May-August introduction of Roberto Cavalli Serpentine at Dubai Duty Free was highly successful and has helped drive significant brand market share growth in the region. We have expanded the distribution of Serpentine globally through multiple retail channels, where it is enjoying ongoing success. Additional 2025 Roberto Cavalli rollouts included the Gold Collection extension, the Paradiso extension, the Paradiso Rosa, and the striking three scents marble subcollection, and the dual gender Just Cavalli Give Me Magic fragrance duo. In 2026, we plan to keep this momentum going with additional expansion that reflects and reinforces the brand's established allure. MCM fragrance sales rose 40% in Q4 and 17% for the full year, driven by continued performance of the new six-scent MCM collection, launched in early 2025.
Jean Madar: The exclusive May-August introduction of Roberto Cavalli Serpentine at Dubai Duty Free was highly successful and has helped drive significant brand market share growth in the region. We have expanded the distribution of Serpentine globally through multiple retail channels, where it is enjoying ongoing success. Additional 2025 Roberto Cavalli rollouts included the Gold Collection extension, the Paradiso extension, the Paradiso Rosa, and the striking three scents marble subcollection, and the dual gender Just Cavalli Give Me Magic fragrance duo. In 2026, we plan to keep this momentum going with additional expansion that reflects and reinforces the brand's established allure. MCM fragrance sales rose 40% in Q4 and 17% for the full year, driven by continued performance of the new six-scent MCM collection, launched in early 2025.
Speaker #2: We have expanded the distribution of Serpentine globally through multiple retail channels, where it is enjoying ongoing success. Additional 2025 Roberto Cavalli rollouts included the Gold Collection extension, the Paradiso extension, the Paradiso Rosa, and the striking 3 cents marble subcollection, and the dual gender Just Cavalli giving magic fragrance duo.
Speaker #2: In 2026, we plan to keep this momentum going with additional extensions that reflect and reinforce the brand's established allure. MCM fragrance sales rose 40% in the fourth quarter and 17% for the full year, driven by continued performance of a new 6 Scent MCM collection launched in early 2025.
Speaker #2: In 2026, we expect to debut new extension to expand the brand, where excited to be at Milan Design Week this April, where we will have an MCM-centric display highlighting the newest fragrance that we launched in early 2026.
Jean Madar: In 2026, we expect to debut new extension to expand the brand. We are excited to be at Milan Design Week this April, where we will have an MCM-centric display highlighting the newest fragrance that we launched in early 2026. Despite a challenging year where the brand declined 9%, and despite the launch of Fiamma, fragrance sales at Ferragamo held steady in the Q4, supported by the Q3 launch of Sublime Leather. We remain confident in the brand's potential heading into 2026, where we plan to roll out new extensions across pillars. Sales from our European-based operations increased by 9% in the Q4, driven equally by a 4% rise in organic growth and a 4% positive effect of foreign exchange. Coach, Lacoste, and Montblanc led the way in the Q4.
Jean Madar: In 2026, we expect to debut new extension to expand the brand. We are excited to be at Milan Design Week this April, where we will have an MCM-centric display highlighting the newest fragrance that we launched in early 2026. Despite a challenging year where the brand declined 9%, and despite the launch of Fiamma, fragrance sales at Ferragamo held steady in the Q4, supported by the Q3 launch of Sublime Leather. We remain confident in the brand's potential heading into 2026, where we plan to roll out new extensions across pillars. Sales from our European-based operations increased by 9% in the Q4, driven equally by a 4% rise in organic growth and a 4% positive effect of foreign exchange. Coach, Lacoste, and Montblanc led the way in the Q4.
Speaker #2: Despite a challenging year, where the brand declined 9% and despite the launch of Fiamma, fragrance sales at Ferragamo held steady in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #2: Supported by the third quarter launch of Sublime Leather. We remain confident in the brand's potential heading into 2026, where we plan to roll out new extensions across Pillars.
Speaker #2: Sales from our European-based operations increased by 9% in the fourth quarter, driven equally by a 4% rise in organic growth and a 4% positive effect of foreign exchange.
Speaker #2: Coach, Lacoste, and Montblanc led the way in the fourth quarter. For the year, sales increased 7% on a reported basis, and 4% organically. While channel performance was mixed among regions, sales flow has been strong thus far in 2026.
Jean Madar: For the year, sales increased 7% on a reported basis and 4% organically. While channel performance was mixed among regions, sell-through has been strong thus far in 2026. Jimmy Choo, our largest brand, continued its momentum and delivered another year of sales growth. The success of the Jimmy Choo I Want Choo women's franchise has continued to strengthen since its launch in 2021, particularly in the United States. The launch of I Want Choo with Love, combined with the strong performance of the Jimmy Choo Man franchise, helped drive 6% growth of Jimmy Choo fragrance in 2025. We have two new extensions in the work for 2026, and we'll be using the year to prepare for a new women's franchise in 2027.
Jean Madar: For the year, sales increased 7% on a reported basis and 4% organically. While channel performance was mixed among regions, sell-through has been strong thus far in 2026. Jimmy Choo, our largest brand, continued its momentum and delivered another year of sales growth. The success of the Jimmy Choo I Want Choo women's franchise has continued to strengthen since its launch in 2021, particularly in the United States. The launch of I Want Choo with Love, combined with the strong performance of the Jimmy Choo Man franchise, helped drive 6% growth of Jimmy Choo fragrance in 2025. We have two new extensions in the work for 2026, and we'll be using the year to prepare for a new women's franchise in 2027.
Speaker #2: Jimmy Choo, our largest brand, continued its momentum and delivered another year of sales growth. The success of the Jimmy Choo I Want You women's franchise has continued to strengthen since its launch in 2021.
Speaker #2: Particularly, in the United States. The launch of I Want You with Love combined with a strong performance of a Jimmy Choo man franchise helped drive 6% growth of Jimmy Choo fragrance in 2025.
Speaker #2: We have two new extensions in the works for 2026, and we'll be using the year to prepare for a new women's franchise in 2027.
Speaker #2: Coach fragrance sales increased 5% in the fourth quarter and 15% for the full year, reflecting strength across essentially all of the men's and women's lines.
Jean Madar: Coach fragrance sales increased 5% in Q4 and 15% for the full year, reflecting strength across essentially all of the men's and women's line, reinforcing its timeless, multigenerational appeal as a mainstay of casual elegance. We benefited from the launches of Coach for Men and Coach Gold in the first half of the year. We have had a wonderful relationship with the Coach brand since 2016, and we are incredibly happy to extend our agreement for an additional 5 years through 2031. We expect to introduce new extensions for the men's and women's line in 2026, and similar to Jimmy Choo, we will be using the year to prepare a new women's franchise in 2027.
Jean Madar: Coach fragrance sales increased 5% in Q4 and 15% for the full year, reflecting strength across essentially all of the men's and women's line, reinforcing its timeless, multigenerational appeal as a mainstay of casual elegance. We benefited from the launches of Coach for Men and Coach Gold in the first half of the year. We have had a wonderful relationship with the Coach brand since 2016, and we are incredibly happy to extend our agreement for an additional 5 years through 2031. We expect to introduce new extensions for the men's and women's line in 2026, and similar to Jimmy Choo, we will be using the year to prepare a new women's franchise in 2027.
Speaker #2: Reinforcing its timeless, multi-generational appeal, as a mainstay of casual elegance. We benefited from the launches of Coach for Men and Coach Gold in the first half of the year, we have had a wonderful relationship with the Coach brand, since 2016, and we are incredibly happy to extend our agreement for an additional five years through 2031.
Speaker #2: We expect to introduce new extensions for the men's and women's line in '26, and similar to Jimmy Choo, we will be using the year to prepare a new women's franchise in 2027.
Speaker #2: In much the same way that we rejuvenated Roberto Cavalli, our success with the Lacoste brand was certainly a positive highlight in 2025. In just the second full year under our management, Lacoste fragrance sales grew 23% in the fourth quarter, leading to a 28% increase for the full year, reaching $108 million and exceeding our initial expectation of $100 million.
Jean Madar: In much of the same way that we rejuvenated Roberto Cavalli, our success with the Lacoste brand was certainly a positive highlight in 2025. In just the second full year under our management, Lacoste fragrance sales grew 23% in the Q4, leading to 28% increase in the full year, reaching $108 million, exceeding our initial expectation of $100 million. The Lacoste license took effect in January 2024, and we immediately go to work crafting and implementing strategy, and then curating and introducing a collection of fragrances for men and women that key into the timeless elegance of a brand. In 2025, we enriched the original line with a new men's fragrance called Original Parfum, and the line's first women fragrance, Original Femme.
Jean Madar: In much of the same way that we rejuvenated Roberto Cavalli, our success with the Lacoste brand was certainly a positive highlight in 2025. In just the second full year under our management, Lacoste fragrance sales grew 23% in the Q4, leading to 28% increase in the full year, reaching $108 million, exceeding our initial expectation of $100 million. The Lacoste license took effect in January 2024, and we immediately go to work crafting and implementing strategy, and then curating and introducing a collection of fragrances for men and women that key into the timeless elegance of a brand. In 2025, we enriched the original line with a new men's fragrance called Original Parfum, and the line's first women fragrance, Original Femme.
Speaker #2: The Lacoste license took effect in January '24, and we immediately went to work crafting and implementing strategy, and then curating and introducing a collection of fragrances for men and women that key into the timeless elegance of the brand.
Speaker #2: In 2025, we enrich the original line with a new men's fragrance called Original Parfum, and the line's first women's fragrance, Original Femme. We also introduce a new L1212 dual gender duo, Silver Rose and Silver Grey.
Jean Madar: We also introduced a new L.12.12 dual gender duo, Silver Rose and Silver Gray. In 2026, we will further expand the Lacoste fragrance lines with additional extension, leveraging the solid foundation we have built in our first two years overseeing the brand. Montblanc sales rose 22% in the Q4, reflecting the success of Montblanc Explorer Extreme in the second half of 2025, and the strength of the original Montblanc Legend line. This strong Q4 performance, in combination with favorable foreign exchange, helped to offset the sales softness we experienced in the first part of 2025, resulting in full year 2025 sales that were broadly in line with 2024. We plan to launch two new little extension in 2026 and are preparing for a big launch of a new men's franchise in 2027.
Jean Madar: We also introduced a new L.12.12 dual gender duo, Silver Rose and Silver Gray. In 2026, we will further expand the Lacoste fragrance lines with additional extension, leveraging the solid foundation we have built in our first two years overseeing the brand. Montblanc sales rose 22% in the Q4, reflecting the success of Montblanc Explorer Extreme in the second half of 2025, and the strength of the original Montblanc Legend line. This strong Q4 performance, in combination with favorable foreign exchange, helped to offset the sales softness we experienced in the first part of 2025, resulting in full year 2025 sales that were broadly in line with 2024. We plan to launch two new little extension in 2026 and are preparing for a big launch of a new men's franchise in 2027.
Speaker #2: In 2026, we will further expand the Lacoste fragrance lines with additional extensions, leveraging the solid foundation we have built in our first two years overseeing the brand.
Speaker #2: Montblanc sales rose 22% in the fourth quarter, reflecting the success of Montblanc Explorer Extreme in the second half of 2025 and the strength of the original Montblanc Legend line.
Speaker #2: This strong fourth-quarter performance, in combination with favorable foreign exchange, helped to offset the sales softness we experienced in the first part of 2025, resulting in full-year 2025 sales that were broadly in line with '24.
Speaker #2: We plan to launch two new little extensions in '26 and are preparing for a big launch of a new men's franchise in 2027. The men's fragrance market remains underdeveloped in general, presenting a substantial opportunity for us to continue offering meaningful innovation and expand our reach across our entire portfolio for years to come.
Jean Madar: The men's fragrance market remains underdeveloped in general, presenting a substantial opportunity for us to continue offering meaningful innovation and expand our reach across our entire portfolio for years to come. We remain optimistic about the future potential of Solferino, our first ultra-luxury direct-to-consumer offering that includes a collection of 10 unique premium scents designed to cater to the growing niche high-end luxury market. Our flagship store in Paris and dedicated e-commerce platform are attracting encouraging levels of consumer traffic. Solferino reached 40 doors worldwide by the end of 2025, and we are on track to expand this artisanal fragrance house to an additional 50 doors in the first half of 2026, with a long-term goal of up to 500 doors by the end of 2030.
Jean Madar: The men's fragrance market remains underdeveloped in general, presenting a substantial opportunity for us to continue offering meaningful innovation and expand our reach across our entire portfolio for years to come. We remain optimistic about the future potential of Solferino, our first ultra-luxury direct-to-consumer offering that includes a collection of 10 unique premium scents designed to cater to the growing niche high-end luxury market. Our flagship store in Paris and dedicated e-commerce platform are attracting encouraging levels of consumer traffic. Solferino reached 40 doors worldwide by the end of 2025, and we are on track to expand this artisanal fragrance house to an additional 50 doors in the first half of 2026, with a long-term goal of up to 500 doors by the end of 2030.
Speaker #2: We remain optimistic about the future potential of Solferino, our first ultra-luxury direct-to-consumer offering that includes a collection of 10 unique premium scents designed to cater to the growing niche high-end luxury market.
Speaker #2: Our flagship store in Paris and dedicated e-commerce platform are attracting encouraging levels of consumer traffic. Solferino reached 40 doors worldwide by the end of 2025, and we are on track to expand this artisanal fragrance house to an additional 50 doors in the first half of 2026, with a long-term goal of up to 500 doors by the end of 2030.
Speaker #2: We are excited that Solferino has entered the US, with a launch on Bloomingdale's online store and in seven store locations, with additional store rollouts to come this fall.
Jean Madar: We are excited that Solferino has entered the US with a launch on Bloomingdale's online store and in seven store locations, with additional store rollouts to come this fall. We have always taken a strategic approach to portfolio expansion, adding brands that strengthen our global reach and long-term growth profile. This year, we advance that strategy with new partnership that further enhance our competitive position. In January, we announced separate, exclusive, long-term, worldwide fragrance license agreements with David Beckham and Nautica, along with a 15-year extension of our license agreement with Guess, that maintains a relationship through 2048. These distinctive brands reflects our approach to an increasingly global and diverse fragrance market, identify iconic category leaders, and apply our proven operational expertise to build a sustainable franchise.
Jean Madar: We are excited that Solferino has entered the US with a launch on Bloomingdale's online store and in seven store locations, with additional store rollouts to come this fall. We have always taken a strategic approach to portfolio expansion, adding brands that strengthen our global reach and long-term growth profile. This year, we advance that strategy with new partnership that further enhance our competitive position. In January, we announced separate, exclusive, long-term, worldwide fragrance license agreements with David Beckham and Nautica, along with a 15-year extension of our license agreement with Guess, that maintains a relationship through 2048. These distinctive brands reflects our approach to an increasingly global and diverse fragrance market, identify iconic category leaders, and apply our proven operational expertise to build a sustainable franchise.
Speaker #2: We have always taken a strategic approach to portfolio expansion, adding brands that strengthen our global reach and long-term growth profile. This year, we advance that strategy with new partnerships that further enhance our competitive position.
Speaker #2: In January, we announced separate exclusive long-term worldwide fragrance license agreements with David Beckham and Nautica, along with a 15-year extension of our license agreement with Guess that maintains a relationship through 2048.
Speaker #2: This distinctive brand reflects our approach to an increasingly global and diverse fragrance market, identify iconic category leaders, and apply our proven operational expertise to build a sustainable franchise.
Speaker #2: Our opportunity pipeline is expanding, as our ability to elevate and, in some cases, revive brands is becoming increasingly recognized in the market. I want to thank Authentic Brands Group, ABG, the company who co-owns and manages both the David Beckham and Nautica brands. We look forward to a continuing, mutually beneficial relationship. Brick-and-mortar remains competitive, e-commerce is running strong, and we are benefiting from our expanded presence at Amazon and early foray into TikTok Shop, among others.
Jean Madar: Our opportunity pipeline is expanding as our ability to elevate, and in some cases revive, brands is becoming increasingly recognized in the market. I want to thank Authentic Brands Group, ABG, the company who co-owns and manage both the David Beckham and Nautica brands. We look forward to a continuing, mutually beneficial relationship. While brick-and-mortar remains competitive, e-commerce is running strong, and we are benefiting from our expanded presence at Amazon and early foray into TikTok Shop, among others. This platform significantly enhance our global visibility, deliver rich consumer insights and enable us to introduce smaller sized products that serves as an affordable entry point into prestige and luxury, supporting both recruitment and premiumization efforts. Amazon remains one of our largest and fastest growing channel, generating rising consumer engagement and premiumization.
Jean Madar: Our opportunity pipeline is expanding as our ability to elevate, and in some cases revive, brands is becoming increasingly recognized in the market. I want to thank Authentic Brands Group, ABG, the company who co-owns and manage both the David Beckham and Nautica brands. We look forward to a continuing, mutually beneficial relationship. While brick-and-mortar remains competitive, e-commerce is running strong, and we are benefiting from our expanded presence at Amazon and early foray into TikTok Shop, among others. This platform significantly enhance our global visibility, deliver rich consumer insights and enable us to introduce smaller sized products that serves as an affordable entry point into prestige and luxury, supporting both recruitment and premiumization efforts. Amazon remains one of our largest and fastest growing channel, generating rising consumer engagement and premiumization.
Speaker #2: This platform significantly enhances our global visibility, delivers rich consumer insights, and enables us to introduce smaller-sized products that serve as an affordable entry point into prestigious luxury supporting both recruitment and premiumization efforts.
Speaker #2: Amazon remains one of our largest and fastest-growing channels, generating rising consumer engagement and premiumization. We are very encouraged by our early success on TikTok Shop, most notably select products within our Donna Karan DKNY brands.
Jean Madar: We are very encouraged by our early success on TikTok Shop, most notably select products within our Donna Karan DKNY brands. We are continuing to explore ways to leverage the increasingly significant sales potential of this platform, which has firmly established itself as a top 10 beauty retailer in the US, as well as the fastest growing. The travel retail market continued to perform well, with sales growing by 6% in 2025, representing today approximately 7% of our total net sales, consistent with prior years. Brands including Cavalli, Lacoste, and Coach performed well throughout the year. Our strong appeal among traveling consumers, illustrated by the success of Cavalli Serpentine in Dubai, is helping us secure additional sales space and broaden our SKU footprint across duty-free locations. We anticipate steady growth in our travel retail business going forward.
Jean Madar: We are very encouraged by our early success on TikTok Shop, most notably select products within our Donna Karan DKNY brands. We are continuing to explore ways to leverage the increasingly significant sales potential of this platform, which has firmly established itself as a top 10 beauty retailer in the US, as well as the fastest growing. The travel retail market continued to perform well, with sales growing by 6% in 2025, representing today approximately 7% of our total net sales, consistent with prior years. Brands including Cavalli, Lacoste, and Coach performed well throughout the year. Our strong appeal among traveling consumers, illustrated by the success of Cavalli Serpentine in Dubai, is helping us secure additional sales space and broaden our SKU footprint across duty-free locations. We anticipate steady growth in our travel retail business going forward.
Speaker #2: We are continuing to explore ways to leverage the increasingly significant sales potential of this platform, which has firmly established itself as a top 10 beauty retailer in the U.S., as well as the fastest-growing.
Speaker #2: The travel retail market continues to perform well, with sales growing by 6% in 2025 and representing today approximately 7% of our total net sales, consistent with prior years.
Speaker #2: Brands including Cavalli, Lacoste, and Coach performed well throughout the year. Our strong appeal among traveling consumers illustrated by the success of Cavalli Serpentine in Dubai is helping us secure additional sales space and broaden our SKU footprint across duty-free locations.
Speaker #2: We anticipate steady growth in our travel retail business going forward. With respect to operational improvements, we've made some good progress against our stated goals in the areas of tariff mitigation, inventory management, and operating efficiencies.
Jean Madar: With respect to operational improvements, we've made some good progress against our stated goals in the areas of tariff mitigation, inventory management, and operating efficiencies. For example, our transition to 100% third-party providers for packing, shipping, warehousing, and order fulfillment should be completed by the end of March of this year. We are also making progress in shifting our manufacturing closer to the point of sales, with a focus on changes that provide a measurable impact. For example, as of 31 December 2025, we moved production for 3 GUESS lines to Italy, and have since diverted all component shipment from China to Europe instead of the US. This 1 change, which represented approximately 15% of our US manufacturing, produced tariff savings of $3.5 million.
Jean Madar: With respect to operational improvements, we've made some good progress against our stated goals in the areas of tariff mitigation, inventory management, and operating efficiencies. For example, our transition to 100% third-party providers for packing, shipping, warehousing, and order fulfillment should be completed by the end of March of this year. We are also making progress in shifting our manufacturing closer to the point of sales, with a focus on changes that provide a measurable impact. For example, as of 31 December 2025, we moved production for 3 GUESS lines to Italy, and have since diverted all component shipment from China to Europe instead of the US. This 1 change, which represented approximately 15% of our US manufacturing, produced tariff savings of $3.5 million.
Speaker #2: For example, our transition to 100% third-party providers for packing, shipping, warehousing, and order fulfillment should be completed by the end of March of this year.
Speaker #2: We are also making progress in shifting our manufacturing closer to the point of sale. With a focus on changes that provide a measurable impact, for example, as of December 31, 2025, we move production for three Guess lines to Italy and have since diverted all component shipments from China to Europe instead of the US.
Speaker #2: This one change which represented approximately 15% of our US manufacturing produced tariff savings of 3.5 million dollars. Retailers maintain a cautious stance on inventory levels throughout 2025.
Jean Madar: Retailers maintained a cautious stance on inventory levels throughout 2025, carefully managing their positions amid a dynamic demand environment. However, we began to see meaningful relief in Q4 of 2025 as ordering patterns stabilized and inventories declined. Encouragingly, that momentum has carried into 2026, with healthy ordering patterns since the beginning of the year. The tariff situation has become increasingly dynamic, given last week's Supreme Court ruling and the aftermath. While it is too early, way too early, to determine the long-term future of tariffs, we continue to focus on controlling what we can control in our own operations and have seen encouraging results. At present, we estimate the tariff cost will remain a headwind in 2026. We will continue to implement strategies and cost savings to blunt this anticipated impact.
Jean Madar: Retailers maintained a cautious stance on inventory levels throughout 2025, carefully managing their positions amid a dynamic demand environment. However, we began to see meaningful relief in Q4 of 2025 as ordering patterns stabilized and inventories declined. Encouragingly, that momentum has carried into 2026, with healthy ordering patterns since the beginning of the year. The tariff situation has become increasingly dynamic, given last week's Supreme Court ruling and the aftermath. While it is too early, way too early, to determine the long-term future of tariffs, we continue to focus on controlling what we can control in our own operations and have seen encouraging results. At present, we estimate the tariff cost will remain a headwind in 2026. We will continue to implement strategies and cost savings to blunt this anticipated impact.
Speaker #2: Carefully managing their positions amid the dynamic demand environment. However, we began to see meaningful relief in Q4 2025 as ordering patterns stabilized and inventories declined.
Speaker #2: Encouragingly, that momentum has carried into 2026, with healthy ordering patterns since the beginning of the year. The tariff situation has become increasingly dynamic given last week's Supreme Court ruling and the aftermath.
Speaker #2: While it is too early, way too early, to to determine the long-term future of tariffs, we continue to focus on controlling what we can control.
Speaker #2: In our own operations, and have seen encouraging results. At present, we estimate that tariff costs will remain a headwind in 2026. We will continue to implement strategies and cost savings to blunt this anticipated impact.
Speaker #2: These actions will be enhanced by the select pricing actions we took during the second half of 2025 that averaged approximately 2% across our brands.
Jean Madar: These actions will be enhanced by the select pricing actions we took during the second half of 2025, that averaged approximately 2% across our brands, primarily focused on prestige and luxury in the US market. Our pricing adjustments remained more modest than the prestige fragrance industry average as of late 2025. We do not plan to implement any further pricing actions beyond what we initiated last year, unless a significant change in the market occurs. Our creative innovation, the continued resilience of the fragrance market, and the breadth of our brand portfolio position, actually position us to deliver long-term growth. We expect a continuing period of transition in 2026, leading to a more stable market conditions as we prepare for what we expect will be a more favorable operating environment in 2027 and beyond.
Jean Madar: These actions will be enhanced by the select pricing actions we took during the second half of 2025, that averaged approximately 2% across our brands, primarily focused on prestige and luxury in the US market. Our pricing adjustments remained more modest than the prestige fragrance industry average as of late 2025. We do not plan to implement any further pricing actions beyond what we initiated last year, unless a significant change in the market occurs. Our creative innovation, the continued resilience of the fragrance market, and the breadth of our brand portfolio position, actually position us to deliver long-term growth. We expect a continuing period of transition in 2026, leading to a more stable market conditions as we prepare for what we expect will be a more favorable operating environment in 2027 and beyond.
Speaker #2: Primarily focused on prestige and luxury and the US market. Our pricing adjustments remained more modest than the prestige fragrance industry average as of late 2025.
Speaker #2: We do not plan to implement any further pricing actions beyond what we initiated last year unless a significant change in the market occurs. Our creative innovation continued resilience of the fragrance market and the breadth of our brand portfolio position—excuse me—position us to deliver long-term growth.
Speaker #2: We expect a continuing period of transition in 2026, leading to a more stable market condition as we prepare for what we expect will be a more favorable operating environment in 2027 and beyond.
Speaker #2: As such, we have maintained quite conservative posture with respect to our guidance, but we will revisit it as the year evolves. Over our 30-plus-year history, we have earned a global reputation for excellence and where there is opportunity, we will be there to capitalize on it.
Jean Madar: As such, we have maintained a quite conservative posture with respect to our guidance, but we will revisit it as the year evolves. Over our 30-plus year history, we have earned a global reputation for excellence, and where there is opportunity, we will be there to capitalize on it. I'm also pleased to share that I will be speaking at the Women's Wear Daily CEO Summit in Palm Beach this May, representing our company on an exciting in-industry stage. With that, I will now turn it over to Michel Atwood, for a review of our financial results. Michel?
Jean Madar: As such, we have maintained a quite conservative posture with respect to our guidance, but we will revisit it as the year evolves. Over our 30-plus year history, we have earned a global reputation for excellence, and where there is opportunity, we will be there to capitalize on it. I'm also pleased to share that I will be speaking at the Women's Wear Daily CEO Summit in Palm Beach this May, representing our company on an exciting in-industry stage. With that, I will now turn it over to Michel Atwood, for a review of our financial results. Michel?
Speaker #2: I'm also pleased to share that I will be speaking at the Women's Wear Daily CEO Summit in Palm Beach this May, representing our company on an exciting industry stage.
Speaker #2: With that, I will now turn it over to Michelle. Michelle Atwood, for a review of our financial results. Michelle? Thank you, Jean. And good morning, everyone.
Michel Atwood: Thank you, Jean, and good morning, everyone. I will begin by discussing the consolidated results before breaking them down into our two operating segments, European and United States-based operations. As reported, we delivered net sales growth of 7% to $386 million during Q4, leading to a record $1.49 billion in sales for the full year in 2025. Foreign exchange movements positively impacted our top line, contributing 3% to growth in Q4 and 2% for the full year. However, as outlined in recent quarters, the stronger euro has also driven higher costs across the rest of our P&L, as well as on our balance sheet.
Michel Atwood: Thank you, Jean, and good morning, everyone. I will begin by discussing the consolidated results before breaking them down into our two operating segments, European and United States-based operations. As reported, we delivered net sales growth of 7% to $386 million during Q4, leading to a record $1.49 billion in sales for the full year in 2025. Foreign exchange movements positively impacted our top line, contributing 3% to growth in Q4 and 2% for the full year. However, as outlined in recent quarters, the stronger euro has also driven higher costs across the rest of our P&L, as well as on our balance sheet.
Speaker #2: I will begin by discussing the consolidated results before breaking them down into our two operating segments: European and United States-based operations. As reported, we delivered net sales growth of 7% to 386 million dollars during the fourth quarter, leading to a record 1.49 billion in sales for the full year in 2025.
Speaker #2: Foreign exchange movements positively impacted our top line, contributing 3% to growth in the fourth quarter and 2% for the full year. However, as outlined in recent quarters, the stronger euro has also driven higher costs across the rest of our P&L.
Speaker #2: As well as on our balance sheet. Organic sales, excluding FX and the completed phase-out of Dunhill and initial Sulferino sales in late 2025, rose 3% in the fourth quarter and 2% for the full year, respectively.
Michel Atwood: Organic sales, excluding FX and the completed phase-out of dunhill and initial Solferino sales in late 2025, rose 3% in Q4 and 2% for the full year, respectively. Gross margin contracted 20 basis points to 63.6% in 2025. This was primarily driven by the higher costs due to tariffs. Tariff resulted in about $12.8 million in higher costs in 2025, or 0.9% of sales. We have been able to partially mitigate these impacts through favorable segment and brand mix, which each contributed to 20 basis points of margin expansion, as well as pricing, leaving us with a gross margin erosion of only 0.3%, considering the situation and the tariffs.
Michel Atwood: Organic sales, excluding FX and the completed phase-out of dunhill and initial Solferino sales in late 2025, rose 3% in Q4 and 2% for the full year, respectively. Gross margin contracted 20 basis points to 63.6% in 2025. This was primarily driven by the higher costs due to tariffs. Tariff resulted in about $12.8 million in higher costs in 2025, or 0.9% of sales. We have been able to partially mitigate these impacts through favorable segment and brand mix, which each contributed to 20 basis points of margin expansion, as well as pricing, leaving us with a gross margin erosion of only 0.3%, considering the situation and the tariffs.
Speaker #2: Gross margin contracted 20 basis points to 63.6% in 2025. And this was primarily driven by the higher costs due to tariffs. Tariff resulted in about 12.8 million dollars in higher costs in 2025, or 0.9% of sales.
Speaker #2: We have been able to partially mitigate these impacts through favorable segment and brand mix, which each contributed to 20 basis points of margin expansion as well as pricing, and leaving us with a gross margin erosion of only 0.3% considering the situation and the tariffs.
Speaker #2: We expect tariffs will continue to represent a significant headwind in 2026, as we annualize these tariffs for the full year. We continue to actively work on cost-saving programs and tariff mitigation strategies to help limit these impacts.
Michel Atwood: We expect tariffs will continue to represent a significant headwind in 2026, as we annualize these tariffs for the full year. We continue to actively work on cost-saving programs and tariff mitigation strategies to help limit these impacts. We estimate that these programs, in combination with the full year impacts of the price increases we took in August 2025, will enable us to maintain our gross margins flat in 2026. Moving to SG&A. SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales, were relatively flat in Q4 at 54.3%, compared to 53.4% in the prior year period. For the full year, SG&A increased 80 basis points to 45.5% of net sales from 44.7% last year. This was driven by higher A&P spending, as well as an unfavorable segment mix.
Michel Atwood: We expect tariffs will continue to represent a significant headwind in 2026, as we annualize these tariffs for the full year. We continue to actively work on cost-saving programs and tariff mitigation strategies to help limit these impacts. We estimate that these programs, in combination with the full year impacts of the price increases we took in August 2025, will enable us to maintain our gross margins flat in 2026. Moving to SG&A. SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales, were relatively flat in Q4 at 54.3%, compared to 53.4% in the prior year period. For the full year, SG&A increased 80 basis points to 45.5% of net sales from 44.7% last year. This was driven by higher A&P spending, as well as an unfavorable segment mix.
Speaker #2: We estimate that these programs in combination with the full-year impacts of the price increases we took in August 2025 will enable us to maintain our gross margins flat in 2026.
Speaker #2: Moving to SG&A, SG&A expenses as a percentage of net sales were relatively flat in the fourth quarter at 54.3% compared to 53.4% in the prior year period.
Speaker #2: For the full year, SG&A increased 80 basis points to 45.5% of net sales from 44.7% last year. And this was driven by higher A&P spending as well as an unfavorable segment mix.
Speaker #2: A&P investments rose 10% and 5% for the fourth quarter and full-year periods as we continue to invest ahead of our growth and in line with our expected sell-out trends.
Michel Atwood: A&P investments rose 10% and 5% for Q4 and full year periods, as we continue to invest ahead of our growth and in line with our expected sell-out trends. Royalty expenses, which are included in SG&A, average approximately 8% in 2025, in line with our five-year run rate. Overall, consolidated operating income and margin declined for both Q4 and the full year as compared to the prior year periods, due primarily to the combination of lower gross margin and higher A&P. Q4 operating income was $28 million for Q4, resulting in an operating margin of 7.1%, as compared to $36 million and 10% operating margin in the prior year period.
Michel Atwood: A&P investments rose 10% and 5% for Q4 and full year periods, as we continue to invest ahead of our growth and in line with our expected sell-out trends. Royalty expenses, which are included in SG&A, average approximately 8% in 2025, in line with our five-year run rate. Overall, consolidated operating income and margin declined for both Q4 and the full year as compared to the prior year periods, due primarily to the combination of lower gross margin and higher A&P. Q4 operating income was $28 million for Q4, resulting in an operating margin of 7.1%, as compared to $36 million and 10% operating margin in the prior year period.
Speaker #2: Royalty expenses which are included in SG&A average approximately 8% in 2025, in line with our five-year run rate. Overall, consolidated operating income and margin declined for both the quarter and the full year as compared to the prior year periods, due primarily to the combination of lower gross margin and higher A&P.
Speaker #2: Fourth quarter operating income was 28 million dollars for the quarter, resulting in an operating margin of 7.1% as compared to 36 million and 10% operating margin in the prior year period.
Speaker #2: Full-year operating income declined by 2% to 270 million dollars, resulting in an operating margin of 18.2% or 80 basis points decline from the prior year for the reasons laid out before just above.
Michel Atwood: Full year operating income declined by 2% to $270 million, resulting in an operating margin of 18.2% or 80 basis points decline from the prior year for the reasons, you know, laid out before, just above. Below the operating line, we reported a gain of $1 million in other income and expense, compared to a loss of $6.4 million in 2024. The year-over-year change primarily reflects the following factors: First, we realized a one-time gain of $7.6 million related to a debt extinguishment during the Q4. The second factor was a $1.2 million increase in interest income to $5.8 million during 2025, compared to $4.6 million in 2024, as our cash position improved.
Michel Atwood: Full year operating income declined by 2% to $270 million, resulting in an operating margin of 18.2% or 80 basis points decline from the prior year for the reasons, you know, laid out before, just above. Below the operating line, we reported a gain of $1 million in other income and expense, compared to a loss of $6.4 million in 2024. The year-over-year change primarily reflects the following factors: First, we realized a one-time gain of $7.6 million related to a debt extinguishment during the Q4. The second factor was a $1.2 million increase in interest income to $5.8 million during 2025, compared to $4.6 million in 2024, as our cash position improved.
Speaker #2: Below the operating line, we reported a gain of a million dollars in other income and expense compared to a loss of 6.4 million in 2024.
Speaker #2: The year-over-year change primarily reflects the following factors. First, we realized a one-time gain of 7.6 million dollars related to a debt extinguishment during the fourth quarter.
Speaker #2: The second factor was a $1.2 million increase in interest income to $5.8 million during 2025, compared to $4.6 million in 2024, as our cash position improved.
Speaker #2: Third was a reduction in interest expenses on borrowings of $0.7 million. These gains were partially offset by a loss on foreign currency of $3.7 million, compared to a gain of $500,000 in 2024.
Michel Atwood: Third, was a reduction in interest expenses on borrowings of $0.7 million. These gains were partially offset by a loss on foreign currency of $3.7 million, compared to a gain of $500,000 in 2024. The significant swings in the Euro-Dollar exchange rate throughout the year helped our top line, but have led to larger than usual FX losses throughout our P&L. Our consolidated effective tax rate for the year was 23.3%, down 90 basis points from 24.2% in 2024, as we benefited from a one-time favorable next tax gain of $2 million in 2025, following a positive outcome from prior year tax assessments. These factors, combined with our disciplined execution and cost management, enabled us to deliver net income growth despite the challenging operating environment.
Michel Atwood: Third, was a reduction in interest expenses on borrowings of $0.7 million. These gains were partially offset by a loss on foreign currency of $3.7 million, compared to a gain of $500,000 in 2024. The significant swings in the Euro-Dollar exchange rate throughout the year helped our top line, but have led to larger than usual FX losses throughout our P&L. Our consolidated effective tax rate for the year was 23.3%, down 90 basis points from 24.2% in 2024, as we benefited from a one-time favorable next tax gain of $2 million in 2025, following a positive outcome from prior year tax assessments. These factors, combined with our disciplined execution and cost management, enabled us to deliver net income growth despite the challenging operating environment.
Speaker #2: The significant swings in the euro-dollar exchange rate throughout the year helped our top line but have led to larger-than-usual FX losses throughout our P&L.
Speaker #2: Our consolidated effective tax rate for the year was 23.3%, down 90 basis points from 24.2% in 2024 as we benefited from a one-time favorable next tax gain of 2 million dollars in '25 following a positive outcome from prior year tax assessments.
Speaker #2: These factors combined with our discipline execution and cost management enabled us to deliver net income growth despite the challenging operating environment. Fourth quarter net income was 28 million dollars or 88 cents per diluted share as 16% increase from prior year period.
Michel Atwood: Fourth quarter net income was $28 million, or $0.88 per diluted share, a 16% increase from prior year period. For the year, net income reached a record $168 million, with a diluted EPS reaching $5.24, also a 2% increase compared to 2024. Now moving to our two business segments. I'll start with European-based operations. We delivered solid net sales growth in both the Q4 and full year of 2025. Q4 sales increased 9%, driven by 4% organic growth and 4% favorable FX impact. For the full year, reported sales rose 7%, including a 4% organic growth and 2% favorable FX impact. Gross margin for the full year was 66.1% as compared to 67% in 2024.
Michel Atwood: Fourth quarter net income was $28 million, or $0.88 per diluted share, a 16% increase from prior year period. For the year, net income reached a record $168 million, with a diluted EPS reaching $5.24, also a 2% increase compared to 2024. Now moving to our two business segments. I'll start with European-based operations. We delivered solid net sales growth in both the Q4 and full year of 2025. Q4 sales increased 9%, driven by 4% organic growth and 4% favorable FX impact. For the full year, reported sales rose 7%, including a 4% organic growth and 2% favorable FX impact. Gross margin for the full year was 66.1% as compared to 67% in 2024.
Speaker #2: For the year, net income reached a record 168 million dollars with a diluted EPS reaching 5 dollars in 24 cents also a 2% 2024.
Speaker #2: Now, moving to our two business segments, I'll start with European-based operations. We delivered solid net sales growth in both the fourth quarter and full year of 2025.
Speaker #2: Fourth quarter sales increased 9%, driven by 4% organic growth and a 4% favorable FX impact. For the full year, reported sales rose 7%, including 4% organic growth and a 2% favorable FX impact.
Speaker #2: Gross margin for the full year was 66.1%, as compared to 67% in 2024. The bulk of the 90 basis points erosion in gross margin was driven by tariffs, which represented $8.6 million in 2025.
Michel Atwood: The bulk of the 90 basis points erosion in gross margin was driven by tariffs, which represented $8.6 million in 2025. While SG&A expenses increased 7% to $474 million, SG&A, as a percentage of net sales, remained relatively flat at 46.7%, compared to 46.3% in 2024. The increase in SG&A was primarily driven by a 9% rise in A&P expenses, that total $219 million for the year, representing 22% of net sales, compared to 21% last year. Overall, net income attributable to European operations rose 2% to $144 million, as a percentage of sales, declined 60 basis points to 14.2%. Now, turning to our United States-based operations.
Michel Atwood: The bulk of the 90 basis points erosion in gross margin was driven by tariffs, which represented $8.6 million in 2025. While SG&A expenses increased 7% to $474 million, SG&A, as a percentage of net sales, remained relatively flat at 46.7%, compared to 46.3% in 2024. The increase in SG&A was primarily driven by a 9% rise in A&P expenses, that total $219 million for the year, representing 22% of net sales, compared to 21% last year. Overall, net income attributable to European operations rose 2% to $144 million, as a percentage of sales, declined 60 basis points to 14.2%. Now, turning to our United States-based operations.
Speaker #2: While SG&A expenses increased 7% to 474 million dollars, SG&A as a percentage of net sales remained relatively flat at 46.7% compared to 46.3% in 2024.
Speaker #2: The increase in SG&A was primarily driven by a 9% rise in A&P expenses that totaled 219 million dollars for the year representing 22% of net sales compared to 21% last year.
Speaker #2: Overall, net income attributable to European operations rose 2% to 144 million dollars but as a percentage of sales declined 60 basis points to 14.2%.
Speaker #2: Now turning to our United States-based operations, in the fourth quarter, we achieved a 4% net sales growth on a reported basis and 2% organic growth aided by a 2% favorable FX impact.
Michel Atwood: In the Q4, we achieved a 4% net sales growth on a reported basis and 2% organic growth, aided by a 2% favorable FX impact. Excluding the phaseout of Dunhill fragrances that was completed in August 2024, full year 2025 operating sales declined 3%. Gross margin expanded by 40 basis points to 58.3% for the full year, driven by favorable brand mix, driven by the 2024 Dunhill discontinuation, channel mix, and pricing actions, which more than offset the negative 0.9% impact of tariffs. SG&A expenses decreased 2% for the full year. However, SG&A, as a percentage of net sales, rose to 42% from 40.5%. This was largely driven by our lower net sales with the discontinuation of Dunhill.
Michel Atwood: In the Q4, we achieved a 4% net sales growth on a reported basis and 2% organic growth, aided by a 2% favorable FX impact. Excluding the phaseout of Dunhill fragrances that was completed in August 2024, full year 2025 operating sales declined 3%. Gross margin expanded by 40 basis points to 58.3% for the full year, driven by favorable brand mix, driven by the 2024 Dunhill discontinuation, channel mix, and pricing actions, which more than offset the negative 0.9% impact of tariffs. SG&A expenses decreased 2% for the full year. However, SG&A, as a percentage of net sales, rose to 42% from 40.5%. This was largely driven by our lower net sales with the discontinuation of Dunhill.
Speaker #2: Excluding the phase-out of Dunhill, Fragrance that was completed in August 2024, full year '25 operating sales declined 3%. Gross margin expanded by 40 basis points to 58.3% for the full year driven by favorable brand mix driven by the 2024 Dunhill discontinuation channel mix and pricing actions which more than offset the negative 0.9% impact of tariffs.
Speaker #2: SG&A expenses decreased 2% for the full year; however, SG&A as a percentage of net sales rose to 42% from 40.5% and this was largely driven by our lower net sales with a discontinuation of Dunhill.
Speaker #2: Additionally, in 2025, we kept our A&P investments steady at 16% of net sales compared to 2024 and made the choice not to reduce other areas of SG&A in light of new licenses which will be joining our portfolio in future years.
Michel Atwood: Additionally, in 2025, we kept our A&P investments steady at 16% of net sales compared to 2024, and made the choice not to reduce other areas of SG&A in light of new licenses, which will be joining our portfolio in future years. Overall, the full year net income attributable to US-based operations was essentially flat at $69 million, representing a 14.3% of net sales, compared to 13.3% in 2024, so improving margins. At December 2024, our balance sheet remained strong, with $295 million in cash equivalents, and short-term investments, and working capital of close to $700 million. Accounts receivable was up 17% compared to 2024 on a reported basis.
Michel Atwood: Additionally, in 2025, we kept our A&P investments steady at 16% of net sales compared to 2024, and made the choice not to reduce other areas of SG&A in light of new licenses, which will be joining our portfolio in future years. Overall, the full year net income attributable to US-based operations was essentially flat at $69 million, representing a 14.3% of net sales, compared to 13.3% in 2024, so improving margins. At December 2024, our balance sheet remained strong, with $295 million in cash equivalents, and short-term investments, and working capital of close to $700 million. Accounts receivable was up 17% compared to 2024 on a reported basis.
Speaker #2: Overall, the full-year net income attributable to US-based operations was essentially flat at $69 million, representing 14.3% of net sales compared to 13.3% in '24, so improving margins.
Speaker #2: At December 2024, our balance sheet remained strong with 295 million dollars in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments and working capital of close to 700 million dollars.
Speaker #2: Accounts receivable was up 17% compared to 2024 on a reported basis; however, the balance is reasonable and based on 2025 record sales levels and higher FX impacts of the euro-dollar.
Michel Atwood: However, the balance is reasonable and based on 2025 record sales levels and higher FX impacts of the euro dollar. While day sales outstanding was 73 days, up from 66 days in 2024, driven by changes in channel mix and FX, we are still seeing strong collection activity and do not anticipate any issues with collections of accounts receivable. Despite FX headwinds, inventory levels were down 6% at year-end compared to 2024, and inventory days on hand decreased to 244 days, compared to 259 days in 2024, marking our lowest level since 2022. These decreases are a direct result of our effort to manage down inventory levels. We have also preserved a favorable inventory profile with a higher mix of finished goods relative to components.
Michel Atwood: However, the balance is reasonable and based on 2025 record sales levels and higher FX impacts of the euro dollar. While day sales outstanding was 73 days, up from 66 days in 2024, driven by changes in channel mix and FX, we are still seeing strong collection activity and do not anticipate any issues with collections of accounts receivable. Despite FX headwinds, inventory levels were down 6% at year-end compared to 2024, and inventory days on hand decreased to 244 days, compared to 259 days in 2024, marking our lowest level since 2022. These decreases are a direct result of our effort to manage down inventory levels. We have also preserved a favorable inventory profile with a higher mix of finished goods relative to components.
Speaker #2: While daily sales outstanding was 73 days up from 66 days in 2024 driven by changes in channel mix and FX, we are still seeing strong collection activity and do not anticipate any issues with collections of accounts receivable.
Speaker #2: Despite FX headwinds inventory levels were down 6% at year-end compared to 2024 and inventory days on hand decreased to 244 days compared to 259 days in 2024 marking our lowest level since 2022.
Speaker #2: These decreases are a direct result of our effort to manage down inventory levels. We have also preserved a favorable inventory profile with a higher mix of finished goods relative to components; these improvements position us well to continue to drive further inventory efficiencies and we will continue to optimize our inventory levels going forward.
Michel Atwood: These improvements position us well to continue to drive further inventory efficiencies, and we will continue to optimize our inventory levels going forward. By effectively managing our working capital in line with sales, full year operating cash flow increased to $215 million, up $27 million from prior year period, and representing 103% net income, compared to $188 million or 92% of net income in 2024. We also took advantage of our stronger cash position and the lower stock price levels in the back half of 2025 to continue to share our share repurchase program. In 2025, we purchased $14 million in shares and will continue to evaluate additional share repurchases if the stock price remains below what we believe is the intrinsic value.
Michel Atwood: These improvements position us well to continue to drive further inventory efficiencies, and we will continue to optimize our inventory levels going forward. By effectively managing our working capital in line with sales, full year operating cash flow increased to $215 million, up $27 million from prior year period, and representing 103% net income, compared to $188 million or 92% of net income in 2024. We also took advantage of our stronger cash position and the lower stock price levels in the back half of 2025 to continue to share our share repurchase program. In 2025, we purchased $14 million in shares and will continue to evaluate additional share repurchases if the stock price remains below what we believe is the intrinsic value.
Speaker #2: By effectively managing our working capital in line with sales full year operating cash flow increased to 215 million dollars up 27 million dollars from prior year period and representing a 103% net income compared to 188 million or 92% of net net income in 2024.
Speaker #2: We also took advantage of our stronger cash position and the lower stock price levels in the back half of '25 to continue to share our share repurchase program.
Speaker #2: In 2025, we purchased $14 million in shares and will continue to evaluate additional share repurchases if the stock price remains below what we believe is the intrinsic value.
Speaker #2: In the same vein, we are pleased to be able to maintain our annual dividend of $3.20 per share. Now, moving to guidance, as shared in our earnings release published yesterday evening, we are maintaining the outlook we provided in November.
Michel Atwood: In the same vein, we are pleased to be able to maintain our annual dividend of $3.20 per share. Now, moving to guidance. As shared in our earnings release, published yesterday evening, we are maintaining the outlook we provided in November. We expect sales to remain steady at approximately $1.48 billion and diluted earnings per share of $4.85. A decline from 2025 that is referenced above included a one-time gain recognized in 2025, impacts from tariffs and significant investments we are making to develop our newest brands and support our broader portfolio for 2027. We continue to anticipate a return to significantly stronger growth in 2027, driven by enhanced innovation across all of our key brands, including the development distribution of our newest brands.
Michel Atwood: In the same vein, we are pleased to be able to maintain our annual dividend of $3.20 per share. Now, moving to guidance. As shared in our earnings release, published yesterday evening, we are maintaining the outlook we provided in November. We expect sales to remain steady at approximately $1.48 billion and diluted earnings per share of $4.85. A decline from 2025 that is referenced above included a one-time gain recognized in 2025, impacts from tariffs and significant investments we are making to develop our newest brands and support our broader portfolio for 2027. We continue to anticipate a return to significantly stronger growth in 2027, driven by enhanced innovation across all of our key brands, including the development distribution of our newest brands.
Speaker #2: We expect sales to remain steady at approximately 1.48 billion dollars and diluted earnings per share of 485. A decline from 2025 that is referenced above included a one-time gain recognized in 2025 impacts from tariffs and significant investments we are making to develop our newest brands and support our broader portfolio for 2027.
Speaker #2: We continue to anticipate a return to significantly stronger growth in 2027 driven by enhanced innovation across all of our key brands including the development, distribution of our newest brands.
Speaker #2: While we are seeing moderate moderating demand in seven international markets, our core fundamentals remain solid. We continue to advance a strong innovation pipeline, supported by a long-standing relationship with global distributors and retailers.
Michel Atwood: While we are seeing moderating demand in several international markets, our core fundamentals remain solid. We continue to advance a strong innovation pipeline, supported by a long-standing relationship with global distributors and retailers. Combined with a stable and resilient consumer base, these trends reinforce our confidence in delivering consistent performance and long-term value. Before we begin the Q&A section of the call, I want to note that we are anticipating filing our Form 10-K early next week. All audit and reporting procedures are continuing to progress. With that, I'll open up for questions.
Michel Atwood: While we are seeing moderating demand in several international markets, our core fundamentals remain solid. We continue to advance a strong innovation pipeline, supported by a long-standing relationship with global distributors and retailers. Combined with a stable and resilient consumer base, these trends reinforce our confidence in delivering consistent performance and long-term value. Before we begin the Q&A section of the call, I want to note that we are anticipating filing our Form 10-K early next week. All audit and reporting procedures are continuing to progress. With that, I'll open up for questions.
Speaker #2: Combined with a stable and resilient consumer base, these trends reinforce our confidence in delivering consistent performance and long-term value. Before we begin the Q&A section of the call, I want to note that we are anticipating filing our Form 10-K early next week.
Speaker #2: All audit and reporting procedures are continuing to progress. With that, I'll open up for questions.
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Speaker #1: And your first question comes from Sydney Wagner with Jefferies. Please state your question.
Sydney Wagner: Hi, thanks for taking our question. In terms of revisiting your guidance later in the year, what are some specific metrics that you'll be looking for, or do you need to see to give you confidence to update the guide? Just curious, like, is the category or your own pipeline or innovation uptake, more of the swing factor in that? My other question, just on promotion, some peers have called out some pressure there. Can you share a little bit more about what you've seen? Thank you.
Sydney Wagner: Hi, thanks for taking our question. In terms of revisiting your guidance later in the year, what are some specific metrics that you'll be looking for, or do you need to see to give you confidence to update the guide? Just curious, like, is the category or your own pipeline or innovation uptake, more of the swing factor in that? My other question, just on promotion, some peers have called out some pressure there. Can you share a little bit more about what you've seen? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Hi. Thanks for taking our question. So in terms of revisiting your guidance later in the year, what are some specific metrics that you'll be looking for or do you need to see to give you confidence to update the guide?
Speaker #2: And I'm just curious, like, is the category or your own pipeline or innovation uptake more of the swing factor in that? And then my other question just on promotion, some peers have called out some pressure there.
Speaker #2: Can you share a little bit more about what you've seen? Thank you.
Jean Madar: Michel, you want to start?
Speaker #3: Michelle, you want to start?
Jean Madar: Michel, you want to start?
Speaker #4: Yeah.
Michel Atwood: Yeah.
Michel Atwood: Yeah.
Jean Madar: On guidance.
Speaker #3: On guidance?
Speaker #4: Yeah. Hi, Sydney. Look, I mean, we're just starting the year. We had a really strong Q4, but we're waiting to see really what happens.
Jean Madar: On guidance.
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Hi, Sidney. Look, I mean, we're just starting the year. We had a really strong Q4, but we're waiting to see really what happens. The environment remains very volatile. We are seeing a slowdown in market growth. The market growth in Q4 for the markets that we're tracking was up 2%, and it's definitely starting to slow down. For the year, we're at about 3%. Definitely a slowdown in the market. The destocking situation was a lot better in Q4. You know, we shipped better than expected, and we saw some restocking. At the same time, we believe that structurally, destocking will continue to be a factor as, you know, retailers and distributors normalize their inventory levels.
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Hi, Sidney. Look, I mean, we're just starting the year. We had a really strong Q4, but we're waiting to see really what happens. The environment remains very volatile. We are seeing a slowdown in market growth. The market growth in Q4 for the markets that we're tracking was up 2%, and it's definitely starting to slow down. For the year, we're at about 3%. Definitely a slowdown in the market. The destocking situation was a lot better in Q4. You know, we shipped better than expected, and we saw some restocking. At the same time, we believe that structurally, destocking will continue to be a factor as, you know, retailers and distributors normalize their inventory levels.
Speaker #4: The environment remains very, very volatile. We are seeing a slowdown in market growth. The market growth in the fourth quarter for the markets that we're tracking was up 2%.
Speaker #4: And it's definitely starting to slow down. For the year, we're at about 3%. So definitely a slowdown in the market. The destocking situation was a lot better.
Speaker #4: In the fourth quarter, we shipped better than expected, and we saw some restocking. At the same time, we believe that structurally destocking will continue to be a factor as retailers and distributors normalize their inventory levels.
Speaker #4: It's just a normal part of the cycle. And so we're waiting to really see how all of that kind of plays out. In terms of our innovation pipeline, I mean, we have a very, very strong innovation pipeline for 2027.
Michel Atwood: It's just a normal part of the, of the cycle. We're waiting to really see how all of that kind of plays out. In terms of our innovation pipeline, I mean, we have a very, very strong innovation pipeline for 2027. For 2026, our strategy is really more of a flanking strategy. We're waiting to see also how that basically holds up, and how that's basically being received in the market before we, you know, feel comfortable updating our guidance. I don't know if you want to add anything on that?
Michel Atwood: It's just a normal part of the, of the cycle. We're waiting to really see how all of that kind of plays out. In terms of our innovation pipeline, I mean, we have a very, very strong innovation pipeline for 2027. For 2026, our strategy is really more of a flanking strategy. We're waiting to see also how that basically holds up, and how that's basically being received in the market before we, you know, feel comfortable updating our guidance. I don't know if you want to add anything on that?
Speaker #4: But for 2026, our strategy is really more of a flankering strategy. So we're waiting to see also how that basically holds up, and how that's basically being received in the market before we feel comfortable updating our guidance.
Speaker #4: I don't know if you want to add anything on the guidance.
Jean Madar: Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Sydney, for the question. Regarding the guidance, as you know, this company is, has always been conservative. We spent a good amount of time reevaluating the guidance, and we have decided to keep it not to change it. Because even though we had a quite good January and February, and I think we are anticipating a strong Q1, the visibility is not great. We are cautiously optimistic. Instead of retouching the guidance many times, I prefer to wait a little bit more. It's not a sign that things are not going well, just we continue in our approach of being prudent.
Jean Madar: Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Sydney, for the question. Regarding the guidance, as you know, this company is, has always been conservative. We spent a good amount of time reevaluating the guidance, and we have decided to keep it not to change it. Because even though we had a quite good January and February, and I think we are anticipating a strong Q1, the visibility is not great. We are cautiously optimistic. Instead of retouching the guidance many times, I prefer to wait a little bit more. It's not a sign that things are not going well, just we continue in our approach of being prudent.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Sydney, for the question. Regarding the guidance, as you know, this company is has always been conservative. And we spent a good amount of time reevaluating the guidance, and we have decided to keep it not to change it.
Speaker #3: Because even though we have a we had a quite good January and February, and I think we're going to we're anticipating a strong first quarter, the visibility is not great.
Speaker #3: So we are cautiously optimistic. And instead of retouching the guidance many times, I prefer to wait a little bit more. So it's not a sign that things are not going well.
Speaker #3: It's just we continue in our approach of being prudent. So that's regarding the guidance. The promotion, Michelle, you want to answer on the promotion?
Jean Madar: That's regarding the guidance. The promotion, Michel, you want to answer on the promotion?
Jean Madar: That's regarding the guidance. The promotion, Michel, you want to answer on the promotion?
Speaker #4: Yeah. I mean, as you know, we pretty much the whole industry in the US took pricing related to tariffs those price increases largely went through.
Michel Atwood: Yeah. I mean, we've, you know, as you know, we've you know, pretty much the whole industry and, you know, in the US, took pricing related to tariffs. You know, those price increases largely went through, but we did see an uptick in promotions in Q4, a little bit more discounting than usual. I think this is normal. You know, in this category, as you know, we don't typically do a lot of discounting. We typically offer the consumer value in the form of gift sets and GWPs. I would say there was a little bit more of these, you know, friends and family discounts than we have seen in normally in the-
Michel Atwood: Yeah. I mean, we've, you know, as you know, we've you know, pretty much the whole industry and, you know, in the US, took pricing related to tariffs. You know, those price increases largely went through, but we did see an uptick in promotions in Q4, a little bit more discounting than usual. I think this is normal. You know, in this category, as you know, we don't typically do a lot of discounting. We typically offer the consumer value in the form of gift sets and GWPs. I would say there was a little bit more of these, you know, friends and family discounts than we have seen in normally in the-
Speaker #4: But we did see an uptick in promotions in the fourth quarter, a little bit more discounting than usual. I think this is normal. In this category, as you know, we don't typically do a lot of discounting.
Speaker #4: We typically offer the consumer value in the form of gift sets and GWPs, but I would say there were a little bit more of these friends and family discounts than we have seen normally in the fourth quarter.
Jean Madar: Mm.
Jean Madar: Mm.
Michel Atwood: In Q4.
Michel Atwood: In Q4.
Jean Madar: Nothing out of the ordinary?
Speaker #3: But nothing out of the ordinary.
Jean Madar: Nothing out of the ordinary?
Michel Atwood: Nothing, yeah.
Michel Atwood: Nothing, yeah.
Speaker #4: Yeah, nothing significant, but maybe a slight uptick. But nothing significant and nothing of any large magnitude.
Jean Madar: Yeah.
Jean Madar: Yeah.
Michel Atwood: Nothing significant, but you know...
Michel Atwood: Nothing significant, but you know...
Jean Madar: Nothing significant.
Jean Madar: Nothing significant.
Michel Atwood: Maybe a slight uptick, nothing significant and nothing of any, you know, large magnitude.
Michel Atwood: Maybe a slight uptick, nothing significant and nothing of any, you know, large magnitude.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Sydney Wagner: Thank you.
Sydney Wagner: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Aaron Adamski with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Aron Adamski with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Aron Adamski with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Speaker #3: Hello, Aaron.
Jean Madar: Hello, Aron.
Jean Madar: Hello, Aron.
Aron Adamski: Good morning, Jean. Hello.
Aron Adamski: Good morning, Jean. Hello.
Speaker #4: Good morning, Sean. Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. I have two. First, on the portfolio, after signing of the two new brands that you recently announced, do you have any further capacity to secure additional licenses?
Jean Madar: Hello.
Jean Madar: Hello.
Aron Adamski: Thank you for taking my questions. I have two. First, on the portfolio, after signing of the two new brands that you recently announced, do you have any further capacity to secure additional licenses? In that context, would you prefer to add brands more in the mass end of the fragrance industry or build up the prestige presence further? My second question is on the flanker pipeline that you have mentioned for this year. Can you please give us a sense of your expectations of which brands do you expect to gain market share in 2026? Conversely, which parts of the portfolio are you relatively more cautious about at this stage in the year? Thank you.
Aron Adamski: Thank you for taking my questions. I have two. First, on the portfolio, after signing of the two new brands that you recently announced, do you have any further capacity to secure additional licenses? In that context, would you prefer to add brands more in the mass end of the fragrance industry or build up the prestige presence further? My second question is on the flanker pipeline that you have mentioned for this year. Can you please give us a sense of your expectations of which brands do you expect to gain market share in 2026? Conversely, which parts of the portfolio are you relatively more cautious about at this stage in the year? Thank you.
Speaker #4: And in that context, would you prefer to add brands more in the mass end of the fragrance industry, or build up the prestige presence further?
Speaker #4: And then my second question is on the flanker pipeline that you have mentioned for this year. Can you please give us a sense of your expectations of which brands do you expect 2026 and conversely, which parts of the portfolio are you relatively more cautious about at this stage in the year?
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Okay, Aaron. Let me try on the first one. Do we have the capacity to take more after the signing of these two new brands, which are David Beckham and Nautica?
Jean Madar: Okay, Aron. Let me try on the first one. Do we have a capacity to take more after with the signing of these 2 new brands, which are David Beckham and Nautica? Before I answer the question, let's take 2 minutes to analyze what we think we can do with these 2 brands. David Beckham is an icon. David Beckham has a huge name recognition, and we think that in this lifestyle world, we can do well. This is not the first transfer of license that we'll do from Coty. We've done it with GUESS, we've done it with Lacoste, we've done it with Cavalli, all went well.
Jean Madar: Okay, Aron. Let me try on the first one. Do we have a capacity to take more after with the signing of these 2 new brands, which are David Beckham and Nautica? Before I answer the question, let's take 2 minutes to analyze what we think we can do with these 2 brands. David Beckham is an icon. David Beckham has a huge name recognition, and we think that in this lifestyle world, we can do well. This is not the first transfer of license that we'll do from Coty. We've done it with GUESS, we've done it with Lacoste, we've done it with Cavalli, all went well.
Speaker #3: Before I answer the question, let's take two minutes to analyze what we think we can do with these two brands. David Beckham is an icon.
Speaker #3: David Beckham has a huge name recognition. And we think that in this lifestyle world, we can do well. This is not the first transfer of license that we'll do from Coty.
Speaker #3: We've done it with Guess. We've done it with Lacoste. We've done it with Cavalli. All went well. I think that these two new brands are a good addition to the portfolio.
Jean Madar: I think that these two new brands are a good addition to the portfolio. Let's not forget that the portfolio of Interparfums is very diversified. We go from very high-end Van Cleef, Graff, Boucheron, to a very lifestyle. We think that this addition, and what it brings to us and what we can bring to them is a great fit. This being said, do we still have capacity after these two brands? The answer is yes, absolutely. We have the structure, we have the human structure, and the also the process, and the desire to grow the portfolio. We can take more.
Jean Madar: I think that these two new brands are a good addition to the portfolio. Let's not forget that the portfolio of Interparfums is very diversified. We go from very high-end Van Cleef, Graff, Boucheron, to a very lifestyle. We think that this addition, and what it brings to us and what we can bring to them is a great fit. This being said, do we still have capacity after these two brands? The answer is yes, absolutely. We have the structure, we have the human structure, and the also the process, and the desire to grow the portfolio. We can take more.
Speaker #3: Let's not forget that the portfolio of Inter Parfums is very diversified. We go from very high-end Van Cleef, Graff, Boucheron, to very lifestyle. So we think that this addition and what it brings to us and what we can bring to them is a great fit.
Speaker #3: So this being said, do we still have capacity after these two brands? And the answer is yes. Absolutely. We have the structure. We have the human structure and also the process and the desire to grow the portfolio.
Speaker #3: So, we can take more. And we are working on more. And, without any guarantees that we will be able to make announcements, we are working on very important brands.
Jean Madar: We are working on more, and without any guarantees, but that we will be able to make announcement. We are working on very important brands. For us, the evolution of a portfolio is a natural thing to do. We will edit some smaller brands, we will add newer and more important brands. We have the capacity, we have a distribution also. Let's not forget that we are present in 110 countries, 120 countries, through either directly through our distributors, and there is an appetite for newness. This is for the portfolio and the new brands. Michel, do you want to answer on the flankers?
Jean Madar: We are working on more, and without any guarantees, but that we will be able to make announcement. We are working on very important brands. For us, the evolution of a portfolio is a natural thing to do. We will edit some smaller brands, we will add newer and more important brands. We have the capacity, we have a distribution also. Let's not forget that we are present in 110 countries, 120 countries, through either directly through our distributors, and there is an appetite for newness. This is for the portfolio and the new brands. Michel, do you want to answer on the flankers?
Speaker #3: So for us, the evolution of a portfolio is a natural thing to do. We will edit some smaller brands. We will add newer and more important brands.
Speaker #3: We have the capacity. We have a distribution also. Let's not forget that we are present in 110 countries, 120 countries. Through either directly through our distributors and there is an appetite for newness.
Speaker #3: So this is for the portfolio and the new brands. Michelle, do you want to answer on the flankers?
Speaker #4: Yeah, maybe I'll just build a little bit on what you said. I think, coming back to our design and our structure, I mean, the fact that we operate with two segments gives us a lot more capacity to manage bigger brands, to manage more brands.
Michel Atwood: Yeah, maybe I'll just, maybe just build a little bit on what you said.
Michel Atwood: Yeah, maybe I'll just, maybe just build a little bit on what you said.
Jean Madar: Of course.
Jean Madar: Of course.
Michel Atwood: I think, coming back to our design and our structure, I mean, you know, the fact that we operate with two segments, you know, gives us a lot more capacity to manage bigger brand, to manage more brands. We also have our hub in Italy, which is run by US operations. That gives us a third hub. It gives us the opportunity to also put the right brands in the right places, where they will get more, you know, where they'll have access to people that will have more affinity with the brand. For example, we will be managing the David Beckham brand out of Italy, whereas we'll be managing the Nautica brand out of the US, and obviously the Longchamp brand out of France. Again, that's part of this.
Michel Atwood: I think, coming back to our design and our structure, I mean, you know, the fact that we operate with two segments, you know, gives us a lot more capacity to manage bigger brand, to manage more brands. We also have our hub in Italy, which is run by US operations. That gives us a third hub. It gives us the opportunity to also put the right brands in the right places, where they will get more, you know, where they'll have access to people that will have more affinity with the brand. For example, we will be managing the David Beckham brand out of Italy, whereas we'll be managing the Nautica brand out of the US, and obviously the Longchamp brand out of France. Again, that's part of this.
Speaker #4: We also have our hub in Italy, which is run by US operations. So that gives us a third hub. And it gives us the opportunity to also put the right brands in the right places where they will get more where they'll have access to people that will have more affinity with the brand.
Speaker #4: So, for example, we will be managing the David Beckham brand out of Italy, whereas we'll be managing the Nautica brand out of the US.
Speaker #4: And obviously, the Longchamp brand out of France. So again, that's part of this. Now, I think the other thing is, we believe there are many brands out there that are underserved and that could benefit from our expertise, as Jean pointed out.
Michel Atwood: Now, I think the other thing is, we believe there are many brands out there that are underserved, and that could benefit from our expertise, as John pointed out. We spend a lot of time looking for new opportunities, and we will continue to do so. The timing, obviously, you know, between the moment when we have conversations and we get brands, you know, can take time, because as you know, licenses have an expiration date. If you look at what we've announced recently, even if we have announced the licenses, we don't get them immediately. That's always a factor, and that continues to play in that fact.
Michel Atwood: Now, I think the other thing is, we believe there are many brands out there that are underserved, and that could benefit from our expertise, as John pointed out. We spend a lot of time looking for new opportunities, and we will continue to do so. The timing, obviously, you know, between the moment when we have conversations and we get brands, you know, can take time, because as you know, licenses have an expiration date. If you look at what we've announced recently, even if we have announced the licenses, we don't get them immediately. That's always a factor, and that continues to play in that fact.
Speaker #4: We spend a lot of time looking for new opportunities. And we will continue to do so. The timing obviously between the moment when we have conversations and we get brands can take time because, as you know, licenses have an expiration date.
Speaker #4: And if you look at what we've announced recently, even if we have announced the licenses, we don't get them immediately. So that's always a factor that continues to play in that.
Jean Madar: Michel?
Jean Madar: Michel?
Speaker #3: Michelle? You're breaking up.
Michel Atwood: Yeah.
Michel Atwood: Yeah.
Jean Madar: You're breaking up.
Jean Madar: You're breaking up.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Can you hear me?
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Can you hear me?
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Can you hear me?
Speaker #3: Yeah.
Jean Madar: Yeah.
Jean Madar: Yeah.
Speaker #4: Yeah, okay. And then on the flankers—look, our flankers are really designed to hold share, not necessarily to build share. But they are necessary to drive healthy top- and bottom-line growth.
Michel Atwood: Yeah, okay. On the flankers, look, our flankers are really designed to hold share, not necessarily to build share, but they are necessary to drive healthy top and bottom line growth. When a line starts to basically get a little bit more worn out, that is when we go out and design, basically new, you know, new blockbusters. We have a significant pipeline of new blockbusters in 2027 across all of our key brands, whether it's Jimmy Choo, Coach, Montblanc, Lacoste, you know, Guess. We have a significant amount on top of the new launches that will be coming. Really, for next year, what we believe is we still have brands like Guess, Lacoste, and Cavalli will outperform.
Michel Atwood: Yeah, okay. On the flankers, look, our flankers are really designed to hold share, not necessarily to build share, but they are necessary to drive healthy top and bottom line growth. When a line starts to basically get a little bit more worn out, that is when we go out and design, basically new, you know, new blockbusters. We have a significant pipeline of new blockbusters in 2027 across all of our key brands, whether it's Jimmy Choo, Coach, Montblanc, Lacoste, you know, Guess. We have a significant amount on top of the new launches that will be coming. Really, for next year, what we believe is we still have brands like Guess, Lacoste, and Cavalli will outperform.
Speaker #4: When a line starts to basically get a little bit more worn out, that is when we go out and design basically new blockbusters. And we have a significant pipeline of new blockbusters in 2027 across all of our key brands, whether it's Jimmy Choo, Coach, Montblanc, Lacoste, Guess, so we have a significant amount.
Speaker #4: On top of the new launches that we'll be coming. So really, for next year, what we believe is we like Guess, Lacoste, and Cavalli will outperform.
Speaker #4: And Montblanc, Jimmy Choo, and Coach, I think, will be more moderate growth, but we'll continue to do well. We believe with our existing flanker strategy.
Michel Atwood: Montblanc, Jimmy Choo, and Coach, I think will be more moderate growth, but will continue to do well, we believe, with our existing flanker strategy. John?
Michel Atwood: Montblanc, Jimmy Choo, and Coach, I think will be more moderate growth, but will continue to do well, we believe, with our existing flanker strategy. John?
Speaker #4: Jean?
Speaker #5: Very clear.
Aron Adamski: Very clear.
Aron Adamski: Very clear.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I agree. We are really looking at 2027 as a very special year. Because the five biggest brands in the portfolio will have five very important launches for blockbuster.
Jean Madar: I agree, we are really looking at 2027 as a very special year because we, the 5 biggest brands in the portfolio, will have 5 very important launches for blockbuster. It's quite unusual for us. It happens once every, I don't know, every 10 years. We are gearing up for that. We'll have a reasonable growth in 2026 with our strategy of flankers.
Jean Madar: I agree, we are really looking at 2027 as a very special year because we, the 5 biggest brands in the portfolio, will have 5 very important launches for blockbuster. It's quite unusual for us. It happens once every, I don't know, every 10 years. We are gearing up for that. We'll have a reasonable growth in 2026 with our strategy of flankers.
Speaker #3: And it's quite unusual for us. It happens once every, I don't know, every 10 years. So we're gearing up for that. But we'll have a reasonable growth in 2026 with our strategy of flankers.
Speaker #5: Very clear. Thank you.
Hamed Khorsand: Very clear. Thank you.
Hamed Khorsand: Very clear. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Merci.
Jean Madar: Merci.
Jean Madar: Merci.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Susan Anderson with Canaccord Genuity. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Susan Anderson with Canaccord Genuity. Please state your question.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from Susan Anderson with Canacor Genuity. Please see your question.
Speaker #6: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I guess maybe just to follow up on the gross margin—I think you guys were originally expecting maybe a little bit less de-leverage in the fourth quarter. Maybe you could just talk about what happened there versus your expectations?
Susan Anderson: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I guess maybe just to follow up on the gross margin, I think you guys were originally expecting maybe a little bit less deleverage in Q4. Maybe if you could just talk about what happened there versus your expectations. Also looking to this year, how should we think about the cadence of the gross margin? Should we expect it to be down in the first half as we still have the tariff impacts, then potentially up in the back to get to that flat for the year? Thanks.
Susan Anderson: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I guess maybe just to follow up on the gross margin, I think you guys were originally expecting maybe a little bit less deleverage in Q4. Maybe if you could just talk about what happened there versus your expectations. Also looking to this year, how should we think about the cadence of the gross margin? Should we expect it to be down in the first half as we still have the tariff impacts, then potentially up in the back to get to that flat for the year? Thanks.
Speaker #6: And then also looking to this year, how should we think about the cadence of the gross margin? Should we expect it to be I guess down in the first half as we still have the tariff impacts and then potentially up in the back to get to that flat for the year?
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #3: This is a perfect question for Michelle. Michelle, go ahead.
Jean Madar: This is a perfect question for Michel.
Jean Madar: This is a perfect question for Michel.
Michel Atwood: Thank you, Jean.
Michel Atwood: Thank you, Jean.
Jean Madar: Michel, go ahead.
Jean Madar: Michel, go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Jean. Hey, Susan. Yeah. Look, I mean, the gross margin in quarter four looks pretty erosion, looks pretty scary. I think when you see the 300 BEPS and it's a combination of a lot of puts and calls that all basically went in the opposite direction, right?
Michel Atwood: Thank you, Jean. Hey, Susan. Yeah, look, I mean, the gross margin in Q4 looks pretty erosion, looks pretty scary, I think, when you see the 300 bips. It's a combination of a lot of puts and calls that all basically went in the opposite direction, right? You know, sometimes these things tend to neutralize themselves, but in this particular case, basically they were all unfavorable. Really, if you really look at what happened, first of all, you have the, you know, the tariff impact, which, you know, hit us, you know, fully. You know, we. There's always a ramp up, there's a FIFO, and as we buy inventory, you know, it's kind of makes its way through. It made its way fully into the Q4, and that basically represented about 2 points for the Q4.
Michel Atwood: Thank you, Jean. Hey, Susan. Yeah, look, I mean, the gross margin in Q4 looks pretty erosion, looks pretty scary, I think, when you see the 300 bips. It's a combination of a lot of puts and calls that all basically went in the opposite direction, right? You know, sometimes these things tend to neutralize themselves, but in this particular case, basically they were all unfavorable. Really, if you really look at what happened, first of all, you have the, you know, the tariff impact, which, you know, hit us, you know, fully. You know, we. There's always a ramp up, there's a FIFO, and as we buy inventory, you know, it's kind of makes its way through. It made its way fully into the Q4, and that basically represented about 2 points for the Q4.
Speaker #5: So sometimes these things tend to neutralize themselves. But in this particular case, basically, they were all unfavorable. So really, if you really look at what happened, first of all, you have the tariff impact, which hit us fully.
Speaker #5: There's always a ramp-up with the FIFO. And as we buy inventory, it's kind of makes its way through. It made its way fully into the fourth quarter.
Speaker #5: And that basically represented about two points for the quarter. The other thing that we talked about is foreign exchange. So foreign exchange helped us on the top line, but really hurt us significantly.
Michel Atwood: The other thing that we talked about is foreign exchange. Foreign exchange helped us on the top line, but really hurt us significantly, because a lot of the products that we sell are actually made in Europe. With the cost based in euros, while our sales were basically in USD. That represented, you know, and just for perspective, you know, the euro was at EUR 1.07 last year, and it was at EUR 1.16 this year. That represented about, you know, 50% of our sales are denominated in dollars, so that also had a significant impact. The last piece is, you know, it's a little technical, but it's channel mix.
Michel Atwood: The other thing that we talked about is foreign exchange. Foreign exchange helped us on the top line, but really hurt us significantly, because a lot of the products that we sell are actually made in Europe. With the cost based in euros, while our sales were basically in USD. That represented, you know, and just for perspective, you know, the euro was at EUR 1.07 last year, and it was at EUR 1.16 this year. That represented about, you know, 50% of our sales are denominated in dollars, so that also had a significant impact. The last piece is, you know, it's a little technical, but it's channel mix.
Speaker #5: Because a lot of the products that we sell are actually made in Europe. And so with the cost based in euros, where our while our sales were basically in USD, so that represented and just for perspective, the euro was at 1.07 last year.
Speaker #5: And it was at 1.16 this year. So that represented about 50% of our sales are denominated in dollars. So that would also had a significant impact.
Speaker #5: And the last piece is, it's a little technical, but it's channel mix. As you know, some of our business is with direct-to-retailers, with higher gross margin, but also higher A&P.
Michel Atwood: As you know, some of our businesses with direct to retailers, with higher gross margin, but also higher ANP, and some of our businesses with distributors, with lower gross margins and lower ANP. In Q4, we had significantly more of our business went, was through to distributors rather than direct to retail. It was about 68% mix of business versus 63%. It's a combination of all those factors, and it's true that it looks a little bit scary. Overall, going back to next year, we feel that we feel that we have good mitigation strategy in place that will enable us to kind of get to roughly, you know, a flat gross margin. Yes, we should see some hurts in Q1 and Q2.
Michel Atwood: As you know, some of our businesses with direct to retailers, with higher gross margin, but also higher ANP, and some of our businesses with distributors, with lower gross margins and lower ANP. In Q4, we had significantly more of our business went, was through to distributors rather than direct to retail. It was about 68% mix of business versus 63%. It's a combination of all those factors, and it's true that it looks a little bit scary. Overall, going back to next year, we feel that we feel that we have good mitigation strategy in place that will enable us to kind of get to roughly, you know, a flat gross margin. Yes, we should see some hurts in Q1 and Q2.
Speaker #5: And some of our businesses with distributors with lower gross margins and lower A&P. And in the fourth quarter, we had significantly more of our business went through to distributors rather than direct-to-retail.
Speaker #5: It was about 68% mix of business versus 63%. So it's a combination of all those factors. And it's true that it looks a little bit scary.
Speaker #5: But overall, going back to next year, we feel that we have good mitigation strategy in place that will enable to enable us to kind of get to roughly a flat gross margin.
Speaker #5: And yes, we should see some headwinds in the first and second quarter. And we should see improvements in the third and fourth quarter as we lap our tariff impacts in the back half of the year, and our cost savings and efficiency programs actually start to kick in.
Michel Atwood: You know, we should see improvements in Q3 and Q4 as we lap our tariff impacts in the back half of the year, and our cost savings and cost saving and efficiency programs actually start to kick in.
Michel Atwood: You know, we should see improvements in Q3 and Q4 as we lap our tariff impacts in the back half of the year, and our cost savings and cost saving and efficiency programs actually start to kick in.
Speaker #6: Okay, great. Thanks. That's very helpful.
Susan Anderson: Okay, great. Thanks. That's very helpful.
Susan Anderson: Okay, great. Thanks. That's very helpful.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Susan.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Susan.
Speaker #5: Reminder to the audience, please press star one to ask a question. Your next question comes from Hamed Korsan with BWS Financial. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Reminder to the audience, press star 1 to ask a question. Your next question comes from Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Reminder to the audience, press star 1 to ask a question. Your next question comes from Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please state your question.
Speaker #3: Hello, Hamed.
Jean Madar: Hello, Hamed.
Jean Madar: Hello, Hamed.
Speaker #7: Hi. Good afternoon, Jean. Just wanted to ask you—you've talked a lot about the top five today. Is there anything in your other brands that could be a breakout situation for you to get into the top five?
Hamed Khorsand: Hi, good afternoon, John. Just wanna ask you've talked a lot about the top five today. Is there anything in your other brands that could be a breakout situation for you to get into the top five, or you're not expecting that this year?
Hamed Khorsand: Hi, good afternoon, John. Just wanna ask you've talked a lot about the top five today. Is there anything in your other brands that could be a breakout situation for you to get into the top five, or you're not expecting that this year?
Speaker #7: Or you're not expecting that this year?
Jean Madar: This year, breaking to top five, I don't think so. Michel.
Jean Madar: This year, breaking to top five, I don't think so. Michel.
Speaker #3: This year, breaking into the top five—I don't think so, Michel.
Speaker #8: No, I mean—hi, Hamed. Look, I mean, I think our top, our largest brands are really basically, are really our engines of growth.
Michel Atwood: No, I mean, hi, Hamed. Look, I mean, I think our top, our largest brands are really basically our engines of growth. You know, they're diverse, they meet in the various categories, price points, and gender. I think those are really where we're gonna get the growth going forward. I think effectively, the tail end of the portfolio will either be stable with brands like Lanvin and Rochas, or will probably continue to, you know, decline. Those will, you know, eventually bleed out and probably be opportunities for us to consider exits, as John talked about cleaning up our portfolio.
Michel Atwood: No, I mean, hi, Hamed. Look, I mean, I think our top, our largest brands are really basically our engines of growth. You know, they're diverse, they meet in the various categories, price points, and gender. I think those are really where we're gonna get the growth going forward. I think effectively, the tail end of the portfolio will either be stable with brands like Lanvin and Rochas, or will probably continue to, you know, decline. Those will, you know, eventually bleed out and probably be opportunities for us to consider exits, as John talked about cleaning up our portfolio.
Speaker #8: And they're diverse. They mean the various categories, price points, gender. I think those are really where we're going to get the growth going forward.
Speaker #8: And I think, effectively, the tail end of the portfolio will either be stable with brands like Lanvin and Rochas, or we'll probably continue to decline.
Speaker #8: And then those will those will eventually bleed out and probably be opportunities for us to consider exits. As Jean talked about, cleaning up our portfolio.
Speaker #7: Okay.
Hamed Khorsand: Okay, great.
Hamed Khorsand: Okay, great.
Speaker #3: Yeah. I don't think that the top five are brands that are anywhere above or around the 200 million dollars second tier is really below that.
Jean Madar: I don't think that the top five are brands that are anywhere above or around the $200 million. The second tier is really below that. There is quite a difference between the first tier and the second tier.
Jean Madar: I don't think that the top five are brands that are anywhere above or around the $200 million. The second tier is really below that. There is quite a difference between the first tier and the second tier.
Speaker #3: So there is quite a difference between the first tier and the second tier.
Speaker #5: Yeah.
Speaker #8: Yeah. I don't think there's anybody.
Michel Atwood: Yeah. I think there's...
Michel Atwood: Yeah. I think there's...
Jean Madar: We will add the with new license that we are taking. I think that Longchamp has a great potential. We think that Nautica has a great potential, David Beckham also. Let's not forget, if we take Lacoste, we took Lacoste, we doubled the sales in less than 3 years. We took Cavalli, we increased the sales 50% in 2 years. We know what to do with new brands. I think that there is a lot of potential for the new brand in the portfolio.
Speaker #3: But we will add with the new license that we are taking. I think that Longchamp has great potential. We think that Nautica has great potential.
Jean Madar: We will add the with new license that we are taking. I think that Longchamp has a great potential. We think that Nautica has a great potential, David Beckham also. Let's not forget, if we take Lacoste, we took Lacoste, we doubled the sales in less than 3 years. We took Cavalli, we increased the sales 50% in 2 years. We know what to do with new brands. I think that there is a lot of potential for the new brand in the portfolio.
Speaker #3: David Beckham also. So let's not forget, for instance, if we take Lacoste, we took Lacoste, we doubled the sales in less than three years.
Speaker #3: We took Cavalli. We increased the sales 50% in two years. So we know what to do with new brands. And I think that there is a lot of potential for the new brand in the portfolio.
Speaker #7: Got it. And Michelle, on the working capital end, there was considerable amount of free cash flow generation in Q4. I think that's very seasonal.
Hamed Khorsand: Got it. Michel, on the working capital end, there was considerable amount of free cash flow generation in Q4. I think that's very seasonal, but is there potential for more here as you try to wind down some of the inventory, or is that more just a function of how the industry is right now with the destocking?
Hamed Khorsand: Got it. Michel, on the working capital end, there was considerable amount of free cash flow generation in Q4. I think that's very seasonal, but is there potential for more here as you try to wind down some of the inventory, or is that more just a function of how the industry is right now with the destocking?
Speaker #7: But is there potential for more here as you try to wind down some of the inventory? Or is that more just a function of how the industry is right now with the destocking?
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Well, look, I mean, you know, the one of the upsides of sales starting to normalize is you kind of, you know, you're not investing as much in working capital, right? Definitely, you know, you know, the sales normalization has helped us basically deliver working capital improvements, but, you know, we've also done a lot of good work in terms of managing down those inventories. I think we're gonna continue to see that, and we're gonna continue to see, you know, strong operating cash flow productivity going forward.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Well, look, I mean, one of the upsides of sales starting to normalize is you kind of you're not investing as much in working capital, right?
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Well, look, I mean, you know, the one of the upsides of sales starting to normalize is you kind of, you know, you're not investing as much in working capital, right? Definitely, you know, you know, the sales normalization has helped us basically deliver working capital improvements, but, you know, we've also done a lot of good work in terms of managing down those inventories. I think we're gonna continue to see that, and we're gonna continue to see, you know, strong operating cash flow productivity going forward.
Speaker #8: So, definitely, the sales normalization has helped us basically deliver working capital improvements. But we've also done a lot of good work in terms of managing down those inventories.
Speaker #8: And I think we're going to continue to see that. And we're going to continue to see strong operating cash flow productivity going forward.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you.
Hamed Khorsand: Great. Thank you.
Hamed Khorsand: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Hamed.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Ahmed.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Ahmed.
Speaker #5: Thank you. And your next question comes from Aaron Adamski with Goldman Sachs. Please see your question. Hi. Yeah. Thank you for the follow-up. I wanted to quickly ask on the trends that you're seeing across your key regions.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Aron Adamski with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Aron Adamski with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Aron Adamski: Hi, thank you for the follow-up. I wanted to quickly ask on the trends that you're seeing across your key regions, so by geography so far in 2026. Where are you seeing the strongest, whether it's, you know, your own, the demand for your own brands or for the category as a whole so far in 2026? Conversely, in which geographies have you seen a, maybe a relatively slower start to the year than you expected? Thank you.
Aron Adamski: Hi, thank you for the follow-up. I wanted to quickly ask on the trends that you're seeing across your key regions, so by geography so far in 2026. Where are you seeing the strongest, whether it's, you know, your own, the demand for your own brands or for the category as a whole so far in 2026? Conversely, in which geographies have you seen a, maybe a relatively slower start to the year than you expected? Thank you.
Speaker #5: So, by geography, so far in 2026, where are you seeing the strongest—whether it's your own, the demand for your own brands, or for the category as a whole—so far in 2026?
Speaker #5: And conversely, in which geographies have you seen maybe a relatively slower start to the year than you expected? Thank you.
Speaker #8: I'm going to try, but Michelle, follow this very carefully. What I see is, the US is doing well. In very quick, short words, the US is doing well.
Jean Madar: I'm gonna try, but Michel, follow this very carefully. What I see is, the US is doing well, in a very quick, short words. The US is doing well. Southern Europe is doing fine. Northern Europe is more difficult. Eastern Europe is okay. This is for the US and Europe. Asia, for us, China continues to be slow, nothing new. Australia is showing some sign of some strong signs of growth. We traveled a lot in the first two months of the year to make sure that the Christmas went well. What I see is, in general, the level of inventory in stores or distributors is not high, which is a good sign.
Jean Madar: I'm gonna try, but Michel, follow this very carefully. What I see is, the US is doing well, in a very quick, short words. The US is doing well. Southern Europe is doing fine. Northern Europe is more difficult. Eastern Europe is okay. This is for the US and Europe. Asia, for us, China continues to be slow, nothing new. Australia is showing some sign of some strong signs of growth. We traveled a lot in the first two months of the year to make sure that the Christmas went well. What I see is, in general, the level of inventory in stores or distributors is not high, which is a good sign.
Speaker #8: Southern Europe is doing fine. Northern Europe is more difficult. Eastern Europe is okay. This is for the US and Europe. Asia, for us—China continues to be slow.
Speaker #8: Nothing new. Australia is showing some strong signs of growth. We traveled a lot in the first two months of the year.
Speaker #8: To make sure that the Christmas went well. What I see is, in general, the level of inventory in stores or at distributors is not high, which is a good sign.
Jean Madar: Sell through was good. Nobody's holding too much. The level of reorders is quite strong. We're not really worried. Michel, I'm sure you can add more.
Speaker #8: Sales flow was good. Nobody is holding too much. The level of reorders is quite strong, so we're not really worried. Michel, I'm sure you can add more to what I said.
Jean Madar: Sell through was good. Nobody's holding too much. The level of reorders is quite strong. We're not really worried. Michel, I'm sure you can add more.
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Yeah, I would just build on that, Jean-Seine. LatAm, obviously, continues to do very, very well. I think our brand portfolio is really resonating well with the consumers. In Asia, you know, while we had a little bit slower sales, we've, you know, we fixed our distribution in India and Korea, and I think we'll expect to see some good bounce back in 2026 behind that intervention, on top of what effectively you just said for Australia.
Michel Atwood: Yeah. Yeah, I would just build on that, Jean-Seine. LatAm, obviously, continues to do very, very well. I think our brand portfolio is really resonating well with the consumers. In Asia, you know, while we had a little bit slower sales, we've, you know, we fixed our distribution in India and Korea, and I think we'll expect to see some good bounce back in 2026 behind that intervention, on top of what effectively you just said for Australia.
Speaker #5: Yeah, yeah, we just build on that. And Jean, say, a lot of time obviously continues to do very, very well. I think our brand portfolio is really resonating well with the consumers.
Speaker #5: And then in Asia, while we had a little bit slower sales, we fixed our distribution in India and Korea. And I think we'll expect to see some good bounce back in 2026 behind that intervention.
Speaker #5: On top of what effectively you just said for Australia. Great. Thank you very much.
Aron Adamski: Great. Thank you very much.
Aron Adamski: Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Aaron.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Aron.
Jean Madar: Thank you, Aron.
Speaker #5: And there are no further questions at this time. So I'll hand the floor back to Michelle Atwood for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'll hand the floor back to Michel Atwood for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I'll hand the floor back to Michel Atwood for closing remarks.
Speaker #8: All right. Well, thank you again for joining our call today. Before I end the call, I'd like to express my sincere appreciation once again to our teams for their tremendous effort throughout 2025.
Michel Atwood: All right. Well, thank you again for joining our call today. Before I end the call, I'd like to express my sincere appreciation once again to our teams for their tremendous effort throughout 2025. Our achievements are a direct reflection of our people, their dedication, creativity, and the unique contributions they bring every day, and particularly the agility, that we've had to deal with, this year, with all of the moving pieces that we all are aware of. If you have any additional questions, please contact Devin Sullivan from The Equity Group, our investor relations representative, thank you, and have a great day.
Michel Atwood: All right. Well, thank you again for joining our call today. Before I end the call, I'd like to express my sincere appreciation once again to our teams for their tremendous effort throughout 2025. Our achievements are a direct reflection of our people, their dedication, creativity, and the unique contributions they bring every day, and particularly the agility, that we've had to deal with, this year, with all of the moving pieces that we all are aware of. If you have any additional questions, please contact Devin Sullivan from The Equity Group, our investor relations representative, thank you, and have a great day.
Speaker #8: Our achievements are a direct reflection of our people, their dedication, creativity, and the unique contributions they bring every day, and particularly the agility that we've had to deal with this year, with all of the moving pieces that we all are aware of.
Speaker #8: If you have any additional questions, please contact Devin Sullivan from The Equity Group, our investor relations representative. And thank you, and have a great day.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you.
Michel Atwood: Thank you.
Michel Atwood: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you.
Jean Madar: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. All parties may disconnect.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. All parties may disconnect.