Q4 2025 DoorDash Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the DoorDash Q4 2025 earnings call. After today's opening statement, we will host a question-and-answer session.

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Operator: Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the DoorDash Q4 2025 Earnings Call. After today's opening statement, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star one again. I will now hand the call over to Weston Twigg. Please go ahead.

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Speaker #2: All right. Thanks, Elizabeth. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us for our Q4 2025 earnings call. I'm pleased to be joined today by co-founder, Chair, and CEO, Tony Hsu, and CFO, Robbie Nakanda.

Tony Xu: All right, thanks, Elizabeth. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us for our Q4 2025 earnings call. I'm pleased to be joined today by Co-founder, Chair, and CEO, Tony Xu, and CFO, Ravi Inukonda. We'll be making forward-looking statements during today's call, including, without limitation, our expectations for our business, financial position, operating performance, profitability, our guidance, strategies, capital allocation approach, and the broader economic environment. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described. Many of these uncertainties are described in our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q. You should not rely on forward-looking statements as predictions of future events or performance. We disclaim any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures.

Weston Twigg: All right, thanks, Elizabeth. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us for our Q4 2025 earnings call. I'm pleased to be joined today by Co-founder, Chair, and CEO, Tony Xu, and CFO, Ravi Inukonda. We'll be making forward-looking statements during today's call, including, without limitation, our expectations for our business, financial position, operating performance, profitability, our guidance, strategies, capital allocation approach, and the broader economic environment. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described. Many of these uncertainties are described in our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q. You should not rely on forward-looking statements as predictions of future events or performance. We disclaim any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures.

Speaker #2: We'll be making forward-looking statements during today's call, including, without limitation, our expectations for our business, financial position, operating performance, profitability, our guidance, strategies, capital allocation approach, and the broader economic environment.

Speaker #2: Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described. Many of these uncertainties I described in our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q.

Speaker #2: We should not rely on forward-looking statements as predictions of future events or performance. We disclaim any obligation to update any forward-looking statements, except as required by law.

Speaker #2: During this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures, including a reconciliation of such non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, may be found in our earnings release, which is available on our investor relations website at ir.doordash.com.

Tony Xu: Information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures, including a reconciliation of such non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, may be found in our earnings release, which is available on our investor relations website at ir.doordash.com. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to our GAAP results and are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. Finally, this call is being audio webcasted on our investor relations website. An audio replay of the call will be available on our website shortly after the call. Operator, I'll pass it back to you, and we can take our first question.

Tony Xu: Information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures, including a reconciliation of such non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, may be found in our earnings release, which is available on our investor relations website at ir.doordash.com. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to our GAAP results and are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. Finally, this call is being audio webcasted on our investor relations website. An audio replay of the call will be available on our website shortly after the call. Operator, I'll pass it back to you, and we can take our first question.

Speaker #2: These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to our GAAP results and are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. Finally, this call is being audio webcast on our investor relations website.

Speaker #2: An audio replay of the call will be available on our website shortly after the call ends. Operator, I'll pass it back to you, and you can take our first question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Please limit yourself to one question. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad.

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Speaker #3: Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Let me try two, please. One, is on competitive intensity, globally and specifically in Europe. If you're seeing anything different and if so, has it been rising?

Shweta Khajuria: Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Let me try two, please. One is on competitive intensity, globally and specifically in Europe, if you're seeing anything different, and if so, has it been rising? Second is on investment. This may be for Ravi. How should we be thinking-- There's a lot of, maybe, debate that's going on in terms of the level of investments, not only in 2026, but to the degree that it may continue into 2027, especially as it relates to delivery platform. Could you please, Ravi, help us think through how we should think about it? Is it a one time in 2026, or should we expect some elevated level of spend in 2027 too, because it could bleed into next year? Thanks a lot.

Shweta Khajuria: Thanks a lot for taking my questions. Let me try two, please. One is on competitive intensity, globally and specifically in Europe, if you're seeing anything different, and if so, has it been rising? Second is on investment. This may be for Ravi. How should we be thinking-- There's a lot of, maybe, debate that's going on in terms of the level of investments, not only in 2026, but to the degree that it may continue into 2027, especially as it relates to delivery platform. Could you please, Ravi, help us think through how we should think about it? Is it a one time in 2026, or should we expect some elevated level of spend in 2027 too, because it could bleed into next year? Thanks a lot.

Speaker #3: And then second is on investments. This may be for Robbie. How should we be thinking? There's a lot of maybe debate that's going on in terms of the level of investments, not only in 2026, but to the degree that it may continue into 2027, especially as it relates to tech-rich platforms.

Speaker #3: So could you please Robbie help us think through how we should think about it? Is it a one-time in '26, or should we expect some elevated level of spend in '27 too because it could bleed into next year?

Speaker #3: Thanks a lot.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Hey, Shweta. I'll start by talking about Europe. Overall, we feel really great about our position in Europe. We're the leading player in many of the countries in that continent.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Shweta, I'll start by talking about Europe. You know, overall, we feel really great about our position in Europe. You know, we're the leading player in many of the countries in that continent, and we're off to a really great start with our Deliveroo acquisition. You know, with respect to Deliveroo, we are you know, growing much faster at the same profit you know, contribution that we expected before the acquisition. We're gaining share in its largest markets. We're doing the same on the Bolt side. And so when I overall look at our business outside of the US, what I see is faster growth than what we see in the US, which, by the way, the US had you know, two of the fastest-growing quarters in 2025 in the last four years.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Shweta, I'll start by talking about Europe. You know, overall, we feel really great about our position in Europe. You know, we're the leading player in many of the countries in that continent, and we're off to a really great start with our Deliveroo acquisition. You know, with respect to Deliveroo, we are you know, growing much faster at the same profit you know, contribution that we expected before the acquisition. We're gaining share in its largest markets. We're doing the same on the Bolt side. And so when I overall look at our business outside of the US, what I see is faster growth than what we see in the US, which, by the way, the US had you know, two of the fastest-growing quarters in 2025 in the last four years.

Speaker #2: And we're off to a really great start with our deliverable acquisition. With respect to deliverable, we are growing much faster at the same profit contribution that we expected before the acquisition.

Speaker #2: We're gaining share in its largest markets. We're doing the same on the volts side. And so when I overall look at our business outside of the US, what I see is faster growth than what we see in the US, which, by the way, the US had two of the fastest growing quarters in 2025 in the last four years.

Speaker #2: So to trump that is actually quite impressive. And we're continuing to improve our unit economics across the board. So I feel really strong about our position overseas.

Tony Xu: So, too, you know, to trump that is actually quite impressive. And we're continuing, you know, to improve our Unit economics across the board. So I feel really strong about our position overseas.

Tony Xu: So, too, you know, to trump that is actually quite impressive. And we're continuing, you know, to improve our Unit economics across the board. So I feel really strong about our position overseas.

Speaker #4: Shweta, on your second point, right? I'll make a couple of points. One, my expectation for the full-year EBITDA for ’26 has not changed since the last call.

Operator: Shweta, on your second point, right? Like, I'll make a couple of points. One, my expectation for the full year EBITDA for 2026 has not changed since the last call. The way I think about it is 2026 EBITDA margin is gonna be up slightly compared to 2025, excluding Roo, and Roo to produce about $200 million of EBITDA, like we said. So that remains very consistent. Look, as we're thinking about investing, there's three major parts of investing that we called out. The quantum of investment dollars is also very similar to what I'd expected at the time of the last call. One of the major areas to spend, as you called out, is our global tech stack. Look, we are happy with the progress. We're making good progress there.

Operator: Shweta, on your second point, right? Like, I'll make a couple of points. One, my expectation for the full year EBITDA for 2026 has not changed since the last call. The way I think about it is 2026 EBITDA margin is gonna be up slightly compared to 2025, excluding Roo, and Roo to produce about $200 million of EBITDA, like we said. So that remains very consistent. Look, as we're thinking about investing, there's three major parts of investing that we called out. The quantum of investment dollars is also very similar to what I'd expected at the time of the last call. One of the major areas to spend, as you called out, is our global tech stack. Look, we are happy with the progress. We're making good progress there.

Speaker #4: The way I think about it is 2026 EBITDA margin is going to be up slightly compared to 2025, excluding Rule. And Rule to produce about $200 million of EBITDA, like we said.

Speaker #4: So that remains very consistent. Look, as we're thinking about investing, there's three major parts of investing that we called out. The quantum of investment dollars is also very similar to what I'd expected at the time of the last call.

Speaker #4: One of the major areas of spend, as you called out, is our global tech stack. Look, we are happy with the progress—we're making good progress there.

Speaker #4: There are components of that spend that are redundant. Especially as we take on the cost of running both tech stacks in parallel, the majority of that should be in '26.

Operator: There are components of that spend that are redundant, especially as we take on the cost of running both tech stacks in parallel. Majority of that should be in 2026, some of that will be in 2027, which will come off, but that's a smaller component of the overall spend. The other two areas are, look, you know, both autonomy as well as merchant services. We are expanding both of those areas. We are investing. We like what we are seeing there.

Operator: There are components of that spend that are redundant, especially as we take on the cost of running both tech stacks in parallel. Majority of that should be in 2026, some of that will be in 2027, which will come off, but that's a smaller component of the overall spend. The other two areas are, look, you know, both autonomy as well as merchant services. We are expanding both of those areas. We are investing. We like what we are seeing there.

Speaker #4: Some of that will be in '27, which will come off. But that's a smaller component of the overall spend. The other two areas are both autonomy as well as merchant services.

Speaker #4: We are expanding both of those areas. We are investing. We like what we're seeing there. And in fact, I mean, if we continue to make more progress from a customer benefit perspective, our goal is to continue to invest more.

Tony Xu: ... In fact, I mean, if we continue to make more progress from a customer benefit perspective, our goal is to continue to invest more. Look, I mean, our goal has always been to maximize long-term free cash flow. We believe these investments are the right investments, especially as we think about becoming the operating system for local commerce. As we make more progress, we'll continue to invest behind them, because ultimately, they lead to more areas where we can invest behind, as well as improve overall free cash flow generation.

Tony Xu: ... In fact, I mean, if we continue to make more progress from a customer benefit perspective, our goal is to continue to invest more. Look, I mean, our goal has always been to maximize long-term free cash flow. We believe these investments are the right investments, especially as we think about becoming the operating system for local commerce. As we make more progress, we'll continue to invest behind them, because ultimately, they lead to more areas where we can invest behind, as well as improve overall free cash flow generation.

Speaker #4: Look, I mean, our goal has always been to maximize long-term free cash flow. We believe these investments are the right investments, especially as we think about becoming the operating system for local commerce.

Speaker #4: As we make more progress, we'll continue to invest behind them because ultimately, they lead to more areas where we can invest behind as well as improve overall free cash flow generation.

Speaker #3: Okay, that's very helpful. Thanks, Tony. Thanks, Robbie.

Shweta Khajuria: Okay, that's very helpful. Thanks, Tony. Thanks, Ravi.

Shweta Khajuria: Okay, that's very helpful. Thanks, Tony. Thanks, Ravi.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Morton with MoffettNathanson. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Morton with MoffettNathanson. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Morton with MoffettNathanson. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, good evening. Thanks for the questions. Maybe one for Tony to start. In the press release, you talk about investing to support growth in longer-distance and higher-effort deliveries.

Michael Morton: Hey, good evening. Thanks for the questions. Maybe one for Tony to start. In the press release, you talk about investing to support growth in longer distance and higher effort deliveries. I was wondering if you could provide some more details on what type of deliveries those are related to. And just following up on that, like, Dash has made a lot of investments in DashMart and DashLink, and, Tony, I'd love to hear, maybe if it's related to that, longer distance investment, but how you see the e-commerce landscape evolving. Do you expect to see local inventory worked more into kind of consumer shopping experiences? And anything around that would be great. And then maybe a quick one for Ravi. I love the commentary on the inflection in unit economics for your new verticals business.

Michael Morton: Hey, good evening. Thanks for the questions. Maybe one for Tony to start. In the press release, you talk about investing to support growth in longer distance and higher effort deliveries. I was wondering if you could provide some more details on what type of deliveries those are related to. And just following up on that, like, Dash has made a lot of investments in DashMart and DashLink, and, Tony, I'd love to hear, maybe if it's related to that, longer distance investment, but how you see the e-commerce landscape evolving. Do you expect to see local inventory worked more into kind of consumer shopping experiences? And anything around that would be great. And then maybe a quick one for Ravi. I love the commentary on the inflection in unit economics for your new verticals business.

Speaker #5: I was wondering if you could provide some more details on what type of deliveries those are related to. And just following up on that, Dash has made a lot of investments in Dashmark.

Speaker #5: And Dashlink. And Tony, I'd love to hear, maybe if it's related to that longer distance investment, how you see the e-commerce landscape evolving?

Speaker #5: Do you expect to see local inventory worked more into kind of consumer shopping experiences? And anything around that would be great. And then maybe a quick one for Robbie.

Speaker #5: I love the commentary on the inflection in unit economics for your new verticals business. Could you speak a little bit about some of the drivers of that improvement?

Michael Morton: Could you speak a little bit about some of the drivers of that improvement? Is it scale and also maybe less investment requirement? Anything in that would be great, too. Thanks.

Michael Morton: Could you speak a little bit about some of the drivers of that improvement? Is it scale and also maybe less investment requirement? Anything in that would be great, too. Thanks.

Speaker #5: Is it scale, and also maybe less investment requirement? Anything in that would be great, too. Thanks.

Speaker #2: Yeah. I'll start. On the question with respect to Dashers and the evolution around what DoorDash is doing in the world of commerce, I mean, I think Robbie kind of touched nicely about this on the previous question about how we're building the operating system for local commerce.

Tony Xu: Yeah, I'll start. On the question with respect to, you know, Dashers and the evolution around, you know, what DoorDash is doing in the world of, you know, commerce. I mean, I think Ravi kind of touched nicely about this on the previous question about how we're building the operating system for local commerce. And so I'll maybe take, you know, a couple of minutes to expand upon that a little bit, and then I'll, you know, answer directly your question about how Dashers and frankly, some of our other audiences play into, you know, this broader ecosystem. It...

Tony Xu: Yeah, I'll start. On the question with respect to, you know, Dashers and the evolution around, you know, what DoorDash is doing in the world of, you know, commerce. I mean, I think Ravi kind of touched nicely about this on the previous question about how we're building the operating system for local commerce. And so I'll maybe take, you know, a couple of minutes to expand upon that a little bit, and then I'll, you know, answer directly your question about how Dashers and frankly, some of our other audiences play into, you know, this broader ecosystem. It...

Speaker #2: And so I'll maybe take a couple of minutes to expand upon that a little bit. And then I'll answer directly your question about how Dashers and, frankly, some of our other audiences play into this broader ecosystem.

Tony Xu: You know, when I think about, like, what it's going to be required in order to allow, you know, all the small, medium, and large physical businesses to become omni-channel businesses and compete against, you know, one or two large, you know, behemoths, it's going to require, you know, software, it's going to require warehousing and physical infrastructure, it's going to require the lowest cost of delivery at the highest quality, and it's going to require amazing software. And if you think about a lot of what we announced, actually in 2025 at our Dash Forward product event in September, as well as the investments we're making into 2026, I think they line up nicely to give you a view of what we're building.

Tony Xu: You know, when I think about, like, what it's going to be required in order to allow, you know, all the small, medium, and large physical businesses to become omni-channel businesses and compete against, you know, one or two large, you know, behemoths, it's going to require, you know, software, it's going to require warehousing and physical infrastructure, it's going to require the lowest cost of delivery at the highest quality, and it's going to require amazing software. And if you think about a lot of what we announced, actually in 2025 at our Dash Forward product event in September, as well as the investments we're making into 2026, I think they line up nicely to give you a view of what we're building.

Speaker #2: When I think about what is going to be required in order to allow all the small, medium, and large physical businesses to become omnichannel businesses and compete against one or two large behemoths, it's going to require software.

Speaker #2: It's going to require warehousing and physical infrastructure. It's going to require the lowest cost of delivery at the highest quality. And it's going to require amazing software.

Speaker #2: And if you think about a lot of what we announced actually in 2025 at our dashboard product event in September, as well as the investments we're making into '26, I think they line up nicely to give you a view of what we're building.

Speaker #2: So if you think about it, we're starting by obviously building software for every small, medium, and physical and large physical business, whether that means helping them and adding them into the DoorDash app, one of the things that we've been seeing is just continued growth across all categories at DoorDash.

Tony Xu: If you think about it, we're starting by obviously building software for every small, medium, and large physical business, whether that means helping them and adding them into the DoorDash app. You know, one of the things that we've been seeing is just continued growth across all categories at DoorDash. Now, you know, around 30% of customers are ordering outside of the restaurant category, especially as we broaden our reach into grocery, retail, where we've become the leading third-party transaction platform in the US, and we're growing very, very fast outside of the US as well in that dimension. We're bringing software in that dimension.

Tony Xu: If you think about it, we're starting by obviously building software for every small, medium, and large physical business, whether that means helping them and adding them into the DoorDash app. You know, one of the things that we've been seeing is just continued growth across all categories at DoorDash. Now, you know, around 30% of customers are ordering outside of the restaurant category, especially as we broaden our reach into grocery, retail, where we've become the leading third-party transaction platform in the US, and we're growing very, very fast outside of the US as well in that dimension. We're bringing software in that dimension.

Speaker #2: Now, around 30% of customers are ordering outside of the restaurant category, especially as we've broadened our reach into grocery and retail, where we've become the leading third-party transaction platform.

Speaker #2: In the US, and we're growing very, very fast outside of the US as well in that dimension. So we're bringing software in that dimension.

Speaker #2: We're bringing software also in the dimension of all of the B2B products we're shipping, where we're helping businesses offer delivery through their own channels.

Tony Xu: We're bringing software also in the dimension of all of the B2B products we're shipping, where we're helping businesses offer delivery through their own channels. We're helping businesses also stand up their own e-commerce solutions. We're building warehouses to bring inventory closer to where consumers live. So we announced DashMart Fulfillment Services last September. We're very excited to, you know, be partnering with companies like Kroger or CVS to really offer the highest possible quality, the perfect, you know, inventory accuracy, at the lowest cost and the, and the fastest speeds, so that they can compete and offer, you know, same hour, same day delivery, against their peers. That's something that we're doing. And, you know, we're also investing in how to do this in the future, right?

Tony Xu: We're bringing software also in the dimension of all of the B2B products we're shipping, where we're helping businesses offer delivery through their own channels. We're helping businesses also stand up their own e-commerce solutions. We're building warehouses to bring inventory closer to where consumers live. So we announced DashMart Fulfillment Services last September. We're very excited to, you know, be partnering with companies like Kroger or CVS to really offer the highest possible quality, the perfect, you know, inventory accuracy, at the lowest cost and the, and the fastest speeds, so that they can compete and offer, you know, same hour, same day delivery, against their peers. That's something that we're doing. And, you know, we're also investing in how to do this in the future, right?

Speaker #2: We're helping businesses also stand up their own e-commerce solutions. We're building warehouses to bring inventory closer to where consumers live. So we announced Dashmark fulfillment services last September.

Speaker #2: We're very excited to be partnering with companies like Kroger or CVS to really offer the highest possible quality that's perfect inventory accuracy at the lowest cost.

Speaker #2: And the fastest speeds so that they can compete and offer same-hour, same-day delivery against their peers. That's something that we're doing. And we're also investing in how to do this in the future, right?

Speaker #2: And that's really our investment into autonomous vehicles, where we announced DoorDash. as well as some other projects that we're working on in order to make sure that no physical business will be at a disadvantage when it comes to offering the best possible delivery experience at the lowest possible cost.

Tony Xu: And that's really our investment into autonomous vehicles, where we announced DoorDash Dot, as well as some other projects that we're working on, in order to make sure that no physical business will be at a disadvantage, when it comes to offering, you know, the best possible delivery experience at the lowest possible cost. So when you think about how Dashers kind of fit into this system, one of the things that has to be true and that is true is, I mean, it's been happening throughout, you know, last year or the years before, and, and obviously this year and into the future, is that Dashers will have more choice in terms of the types of orders they can take on.

Tony Xu: And that's really our investment into autonomous vehicles, where we announced DoorDash Dot, as well as some other projects that we're working on, in order to make sure that no physical business will be at a disadvantage, when it comes to offering, you know, the best possible delivery experience at the lowest possible cost. So when you think about how Dashers kind of fit into this system, one of the things that has to be true and that is true is, I mean, it's been happening throughout, you know, last year or the years before, and, and obviously this year and into the future, is that Dashers will have more choice in terms of the types of orders they can take on.

Speaker #2: So when you think about how Dashers kind of fit into this system, one of the things that has to be true and that is true, I mean, it's been happening throughout last year, the years before, and obviously this year, and into the future, is that Dashers will have more choice in terms of the types of orders they can take on.

Speaker #2: And that's why one of the investments we're making this year is actually directly into Dashers so that as they do more types of grocery, retail orders, which can travel longer distances, which are usually more complicated because there's a shopping nature involved, although not always, but because of the greater complexity, we want to make sure that the pay models reflect that.

Tony Xu: And that's why one of the investments we're making this year is actually directly into Dashers, so that as they do more types of grocery, retail orders, which can travel longer distances, which are usually more complicated because there's a shopping nature involved, although not always, but, because of the greater complexity, you know, we want to make sure that, you know, the pay models reflect that. We want to make sure that the app experience actually reflects that. And there's a lot that we're also doing in cataloging all of the physical information that exists nowhere on the internet, that we're also partnering with Dashers to do as well.

Tony Xu: And that's why one of the investments we're making this year is actually directly into Dashers, so that as they do more types of grocery, retail orders, which can travel longer distances, which are usually more complicated because there's a shopping nature involved, although not always, but, because of the greater complexity, you know, we want to make sure that, you know, the pay models reflect that. We want to make sure that the app experience actually reflects that. And there's a lot that we're also doing in cataloging all of the physical information that exists nowhere on the internet, that we're also partnering with Dashers to do as well.

Speaker #2: We want to make sure that the app experience actually reflects that. And there's a lot that we're also doing in cataloging all of the physical information that exists nowhere on the internet that we're also partnering with Dashers to do as well.

Speaker #2: So there are a lot of things that we're building, but we're building all of the fundamental building blocks at the end of the day to enable local commerce so that, for consumers, they can get anything inside the city delivered to them with the best possible experience at the lowest possible price.

Tony Xu: So there's a lot of things that we're building, but we're building all of the fundamental building blocks at the end of the day to enable local commerce, so that, you know, for consumers, they can, they can get anything inside the city delivered to them, you know, at the best possible experience at the lowest possible price.

Tony Xu: So there's a lot of things that we're building, but we're building all of the fundamental building blocks at the end of the day to enable local commerce, so that, you know, for consumers, they can, they can get anything inside the city delivered to them, you know, at the best possible experience at the lowest possible price.

Speaker #3: Hey Michael, on your broader question around the new verticals—right, our retail and grocery business—maybe I'll zoom out and just talk about the performance and what we're seeing in that business.

Ravi Inukonda: ... Hey, Mike, on your broader question around new verticals, right? Our retail and grocery business. Maybe I'll zoom out and just talk about the performance and what we're seeing in that business. Look, I mean, new verticals had a really strong quarter as well as the year. We are the fastest growing in the US as it relates to third-party peers. Look, today, you know, Tony mentioned the fact that 30% of our miles in the US order from categories outside of restaurants, and our focus has always been: how do you get that 30% to be 100% over time? And what we're seeing is, as we improve selection, as we are investing behind making the product better, whether it's quality or portability, you know, more and more of our miles continue to order from categories, you know, outside of restaurants.

Ravi Inukonda: ... Hey, Mike, on your broader question around new verticals, right? Our retail and grocery business. Maybe I'll zoom out and just talk about the performance and what we're seeing in that business. Look, I mean, new verticals had a really strong quarter as well as the year. We are the fastest growing in the US as it relates to third-party peers. Look, today, you know, Tony mentioned the fact that 30% of our miles in the US order from categories outside of restaurants, and our focus has always been: how do you get that 30% to be 100% over time? And what we're seeing is, as we improve selection, as we are investing behind making the product better, whether it's quality or portability, you know, more and more of our miles continue to order from categories, you know, outside of restaurants.

Speaker #3: Look, I mean, new verticals had a really strong quarter as well as the year. Beyond being the fastest growing in the US as it relates to third-party peers, look—today, Tony mentioned the fact that 30% of our MAUs in the US order from categories outside of restaurants, and our focus has always been, how do you get that 30% to be 100% over time?

Speaker #3: And what we're seeing is, as we improve selection, as we are investing behind making the product better—whether it's quality or affordability—more and more of our MAUs continue to order from categories outside of restaurants.

Speaker #3: In fact, the number of new consumers that join and start their journey with new verticals is also improving on a year-over-year basis. At the same time, we've been focused on improving the efficiency of that business.

Ravi Inukonda: In fact, the number of new consumers that join and start their journey with new verticals is also improving, you know, on a year-over-year basis. At the same time, we've been focused on improving the efficiency of that business. I mean, look, when I look at the profitability, I mean, the team has made really good progress in unit economics year-over-year. I expect our entire retail and grocery business to be unit economics positive in the second half of the year. And look, when I look at that, I mean, it's just continued execution, right? It's a combination of steady progress that we're going to make over a bunch of different fundamentals, whether it's scale, you know, density, continue to improve the efficiency on the logistics side. Basket sizes are getting larger. There's no one thing which is a step function change.

Ravi Inukonda: In fact, the number of new consumers that join and start their journey with new verticals is also improving, you know, on a year-over-year basis. At the same time, we've been focused on improving the efficiency of that business. I mean, look, when I look at the profitability, I mean, the team has made really good progress in unit economics year-over-year. I expect our entire retail and grocery business to be unit economics positive in the second half of the year. And look, when I look at that, I mean, it's just continued execution, right? It's a combination of steady progress that we're going to make over a bunch of different fundamentals, whether it's scale, you know, density, continue to improve the efficiency on the logistics side. Basket sizes are getting larger. There's no one thing which is a step function change.

Speaker #3: I mean, look, when I look at the profitability, I mean, the team has made really good progress in unit economics year over year. I expect our entire retail and grocery business to be unit economic positive in the second half of the year.

Speaker #3: And look, when I look at that, I mean, it's just continued execution, right? It's a combination of steady progress that we're going to make over a bunch of different fundamentals, whether it's scale, density, continuing to improve the efficiency on the logistics side, basket sizes are getting larger.

Speaker #3: There's no one thing which is a step function change. It's continued execution, finding basis points, largely how we operate our entire business. And our primary focus continues to be, hey, how do you actually get the business to scale?

Ravi Inukonda: It's continued execution, finding basis points, largely how we operate our entire business. Our primary focus continues to be, hey, how do you actually get the business to scale? We know exactly what we need to do on the unit economics side. How do we get 100% of our miles to use grocery and retail? That's the real focus that we've had as a team.

Ravi Inukonda: It's continued execution, finding basis points, largely how we operate our entire business. Our primary focus continues to be, hey, how do you actually get the business to scale? We know exactly what we need to do on the unit economics side. How do we get 100% of our miles to use grocery and retail? That's the real focus that we've had as a team.

Speaker #3: Exactly what we need to do on the unit economic side. How do we get 100% of our miles to use grocery and retail? That's the real focus that we've had as a team.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

[Analyst]: Thank you.

[Analyst]: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Mikhail Devani, with Bernstein. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Nikhil Devnani with Bernstein. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Nikhil Devnani with Bernstein. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hi there. Thanks for taking the question. Tony, I wanted to ask about Agentic Commerce and where you see things going. Longer term, I think today it's clear that Dash has very strong direct relationships with consumers.

Nikhil Devnani: Hi there. Thanks for taking the question. Tony, I wanted to ask about agentic commerce and where you see things going longer term. I think today, you know, it's clear that Dash has very strong direct relationships with consumers, and even with where things currently stand with AI chatbot experiences, that feels well intact. There is a debate around how this might change in an agentic future, where search, discovery, transaction flows start to compress and get more automated. You know, you might still be part of the transaction, but perhaps the economics look different, is the debate. How do you think about positioning DoorDash for that future as consumer behavior evolves? Do you want to integrate with third parties? Does it make more sense to double down on your own vertical solutions?

Nikhil Devnani: Hi there. Thanks for taking the question. Tony, I wanted to ask about agentic commerce and where you see things going longer term. I think today, you know, it's clear that Dash has very strong direct relationships with consumers, and even with where things currently stand with AI chatbot experiences, that feels well intact. There is a debate around how this might change in an agentic future, where search, discovery, transaction flows start to compress and get more automated. You know, you might still be part of the transaction, but perhaps the economics look different, is the debate. How do you think about positioning DoorDash for that future as consumer behavior evolves? Do you want to integrate with third parties? Does it make more sense to double down on your own vertical solutions?

Speaker #5: And even with where things currently stand with AI chatbot experiences, that feels well intact. But there is a debate around how this might change in an agentic future where search, discovery, transaction flows start to compress and get more automated.

Speaker #5: You might still be part of the transaction, but perhaps the economics look different. Is that the debate? So, how do you think about positioning DoorDash for that future as consumer behavior evolves?

Speaker #5: Do you want to integrate with third parties? Does it make more sense to double down on your own vertical solutions? Maybe you disagree with that altogether and think AI agentic AI is upside as a broad premise.

Nikhil Devnani: Maybe you disagree with that altogether and think AI—agentic AI's upside is a broad premise. So just curious for any thoughts you have on that. Thank you.

Nikhil Devnani: Maybe you disagree with that altogether and think AI—agentic AI's upside is a broad premise. So just curious for any thoughts you have on that. Thank you.

Speaker #5: So just curious for any thoughts you have on that. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Sure. No, I think it's a great question. And the first thing I always come to when it comes to any new technology, whether it's autonomous vehicles or agentic commerce, and kind of the how that interacts with LLMs, it's really how well does it solve the end-to-end job for a customer, kind of becomes the lens in which I approach all of these things.

Tony Xu: Sure. No, I think it's a great question, and, you know, the first thing I always come to when it comes to any new technology, whether it's, you know, autonomous vehicles or, agentic commerce, and kind of, you know, how that interacts with LLM, it's really how well does it solve the end-to-end job for a customer? Kind of becomes the lens in which I approach all of these things. And, you know, I actually think that maybe the best way to think about this is to look a bit through history, and maybe offer you a couple of examples, and then maybe work our way towards the present and think about the future.

Tony Xu: Sure. No, I think it's a great question, and, you know, the first thing I always come to when it comes to any new technology, whether it's, you know, autonomous vehicles or, agentic commerce, and kind of, you know, how that interacts with LLM, it's really how well does it solve the end-to-end job for a customer? Kind of becomes the lens in which I approach all of these things. And, you know, I actually think that maybe the best way to think about this is to look a bit through history, and maybe offer you a couple of examples, and then maybe work our way towards the present and think about the future.

Speaker #2: And I actually think that maybe the best way to think about this is to look a bit through history and maybe offer you a couple of examples.

Speaker #2: And then maybe work our way towards the present and think about the future. So, when I think about these terrific products—whichever chat assistants that you love using, or just protocols with agentic commerce that you like using—I kind of view them very much as almost like the new forms of the Googles or other large, kind of top-of-funnel channels, if you will.

Tony Xu: So, you know, when I think about these, you know, terrific products, whichever, you know, chat assistants that you love using or just protocols, with agentic commerce that you like using, I kind of view them very much as almost like the new forms of the Googles or other large, you know, kind of top-of-funnel channels, if you will. And if you think about, you know... I'll give you a couple of examples from history that kind of maybe touch on your question. One is, look at what happened to product search over the 2010s. You saw over time, you know, companies like Amazon take increasing share of product search, in a way, you know, from traditional search engines, because they did the end-to-end job for customers.

Tony Xu: So, you know, when I think about these, you know, terrific products, whichever, you know, chat assistants that you love using or just protocols, with agentic commerce that you like using, I kind of view them very much as almost like the new forms of the Googles or other large, you know, kind of top-of-funnel channels, if you will. And if you think about, you know... I'll give you a couple of examples from history that kind of maybe touch on your question. One is, look at what happened to product search over the 2010s. You saw over time, you know, companies like Amazon take increasing share of product search, in a way, you know, from traditional search engines, because they did the end-to-end job for customers.

Speaker #2: And if you think about it, I'll give you a couple of examples from history that maybe touch on your question. One is, look at what happened to product search over the 2010s.

Speaker #2: You saw over time companies like Amazon take increasing share of product search. And from traditional search engines, because they did the end-to-end job for customers, because searching to buy an item is only one task, but perhaps reading reviews or tracking the package or returning the package or any other form of customer support are also part of the end-to-end job that you have to solve for customers.

Tony Xu: Because searching to buy an item is only one task, but perhaps reading reviews, tracking the package, returning the package, or any other form of customer support are also part of the end-to-end job that you have to solve for customers. You know, over that decade, you saw, I think, companies like Amazon and others, you know, take increasing share when it comes to something like product search. Another example that comes to mind, maybe closer to home, is, you know, something that actually Google launched with, called Google Food Ordering, which they launched in, you know, I believe it was like 2016 or something like this, where they offered the ability for, you know, restaurants to offer delivery directly through Google Maps and other Google services.

Tony Xu: Because searching to buy an item is only one task, but perhaps reading reviews, tracking the package, returning the package, or any other form of customer support are also part of the end-to-end job that you have to solve for customers. You know, over that decade, you saw, I think, companies like Amazon and others, you know, take increasing share when it comes to something like product search. Another example that comes to mind, maybe closer to home, is, you know, something that actually Google launched with, called Google Food Ordering, which they launched in, you know, I believe it was like 2016 or something like this, where they offered the ability for, you know, restaurants to offer delivery directly through Google Maps and other Google services.

Speaker #2: And over that decade, you saw, I think, companies like Amazon and others take increasing share when it comes to something like product search. Another example that comes to mind, and maybe closer to home, is something that actually Google launched called Google Food Ordering, which they launched in, I believe it was like 2016 or something like this, where they offered the ability for restaurants to offer delivery directly through Google Maps and other Google surfaces.

Speaker #2: And look, they drove a ton of traffic—multiple-fold the traffic of what DoorDash could generate—to these restaurants. But when you looked at the retention and the frequency of use of that channel versus companies like DoorDash, it really was a fraction of what DoorDash could provide.

Tony Xu: And look, they drove a ton of traffic, you know, multiple full traffic of what DoorDash could generate, you know, to these restaurants. But when you looked at the retention and, you know, the frequency of use of that channel versus, you know, companies like DoorDash, it really was a fraction of what DoorDash could provide. Why is that? Well, because after a checkout, you know, things can happen in the physical world. For example, a driver might be late, or an item might be missing, or some substitution on a spoiled carton of milk needs to be made, or not the exact brand of, you know, whatever produce that a customer was looking for needs to be changed. So the end-to-end job, at the end of the day, I think, is how customers will ultimately judge where they do their shopping.

Tony Xu: And look, they drove a ton of traffic, you know, multiple full traffic of what DoorDash could generate, you know, to these restaurants. But when you looked at the retention and, you know, the frequency of use of that channel versus, you know, companies like DoorDash, it really was a fraction of what DoorDash could provide. Why is that? Well, because after a checkout, you know, things can happen in the physical world. For example, a driver might be late, or an item might be missing, or some substitution on a spoiled carton of milk needs to be made, or not the exact brand of, you know, whatever produce that a customer was looking for needs to be changed. So the end-to-end job, at the end of the day, I think, is how customers will ultimately judge where they do their shopping.

Speaker #2: Why is that? Well, because after a checkout, things can happen in the physical world. For example, a driver might be late, or an item might be missing, or some substitution on a spoiled carton of milk needs to be made, or not the exact brand of whatever produce that a customer was looking for needs to be changed.

Speaker #2: So the end-to-end job at the end of the day, I think, is how customers will ultimately judge where they do their shopping. And at the end of the day, wherever the customers keep going back to, that's where the audiences will flow and where the audiences flow.

Tony Xu: At the end of the day, wherever, you know, the customers, you know, keep going back to, that's where the audiences will flow, and where the audiences flow, you know, so will, you know, the advertiser budgets as well as, you know, the interests along, you know, that dimension. When I put all this into perspective, the historical context into where I look at DoorDash today, I think DoorDash is really well positioned because we're actually solving the end-to-end job, you know, for a customer, which is to get them some item, you know, brought to them in the condition they expect on time, every time. That's actually really hard to do. You got to map the physical world, all of which that information does not exist anywhere on the internet. That's, you know, data that DoorDash has to collect in, in a proprietary way.

Tony Xu: At the end of the day, wherever, you know, the customers, you know, keep going back to, that's where the audiences will flow, and where the audiences flow, you know, so will, you know, the advertiser budgets as well as, you know, the interests along, you know, that dimension. When I put all this into perspective, the historical context into where I look at DoorDash today, I think DoorDash is really well positioned because we're actually solving the end-to-end job, you know, for a customer, which is to get them some item, you know, brought to them in the condition they expect on time, every time. That's actually really hard to do. You got to map the physical world, all of which that information does not exist anywhere on the internet. That's, you know, data that DoorDash has to collect in, in a proprietary way.

Speaker #2: So will the advertiser budgets, as well as the interests along that dimension. And so when I put all this into perspective, the historical context into where I look at DoorDash today, I think DoorDash is really well positioned because we're actually solving the end-to-end job for a customer, which is to get them some item brought to them in the condition they expect, on time, every time.

Speaker #2: That's actually really hard to do. You've got to map the physical world, all of which—that information does not exist anywhere on the Internet.

Speaker #2: That's data that DoorDash has to collect in a proprietary way. You have to actually be excellent at the execution of the operations. You have to be excellent at collecting all the metadata as well for all of these different items, as well as the personalization you can perform if you actually have all of the customers and all of the customer information.

Tony Xu: You have to actually be excellent at the execution of the operations. You have to be excellent at collecting all the metadata as well, you know, for all of these different items, as well as the personalization you can perform if you actually have all of the customers and all of the customer information. And I think when you put it all together, we're gonna be the best place for to solve the end-to-end job for customers. And so long as we are that best place, we will also attract all of the audience and all of the advertiser dollars that comes from that audience.

Tony Xu: You have to actually be excellent at the execution of the operations. You have to be excellent at collecting all the metadata as well, you know, for all of these different items, as well as the personalization you can perform if you actually have all of the customers and all of the customer information. And I think when you put it all together, we're gonna be the best place for to solve the end-to-end job for customers. And so long as we are that best place, we will also attract all of the audience and all of the advertiser dollars that comes from that audience.

Speaker #2: And I think when you put it all together, we're going to be the best place to solve the end-to-end job for customers. And so long as we are that best place, we will also attract all of the audience and all of the advertiser dollars that come from that audience.

Tony Xu: But look, I think with respect to, you know, how that informs our partnerships with, you know, you know, some of these, you know, AI assistants, I view them as channel partners, and we'll see, you know, how much traffic they can drive in a very similar way to how, you know, companies like, you know, Facebook and Google did the same for DoorDash in the past.

Speaker #2: But look, I think with respect to how that informs our partnerships with some of these AI assistants, I view them as channel partners. And we'll see how much traffic they can drive, in a very similar way to how companies like Facebook and Google did the same for DoorDash in the past.

Tony Xu: But look, I think with respect to, you know, how that informs our partnerships with, you know, you know, some of these, you know, AI assistants, I view them as channel partners, and we'll see, you know, how much traffic they can drive in a very similar way to how, you know, companies like, you know, Facebook and Google did the same for DoorDash in the past.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Tony.

Youssef Squali: Thanks, Tony.

Youssef Squali: Thanks, Tony.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Deepak Madivani with Kantar Fitzgerald, your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Deepak Mathivanan with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Deepak Mathivanan with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Right. Thanks for taking the questions. One for Tony and one for Ravi. Tony, can you talk about the strategy with the autonomous delivery platform?

Deepak Mathivanan: Great, thanks for taking the questions, one for Tony and one for Ravi. Tony, can you talk about the strategy with the autonomous delivery platform? What do you think this platform looks like in 2 to 3 years, perhaps between first-party efforts with Dash and maybe through a, and also with some of the other third-party partnerships? And then for Ravi, can you elaborate on the reasons why the unit economics improvement in the core US restaurant business will be lower this year than prior years? You know, is that from maybe slower advertising growth due to scale, or perhaps moderation and some efficiency gains, or maybe reinvestments? Can you expand on that, if you don't mind? Thank you so much.

Deepak Mathivanan: Great, thanks for taking the questions, one for Tony and one for Ravi. Tony, can you talk about the strategy with the autonomous delivery platform? What do you think this platform looks like in 2 to 3 years, perhaps between first-party efforts with Dash and maybe through a, and also with some of the other third-party partnerships? And then for Ravi, can you elaborate on the reasons why the unit economics improvement in the core US restaurant business will be lower this year than prior years? You know, is that from maybe slower advertising growth due to scale, or perhaps moderation and some efficiency gains, or maybe reinvestments? Can you expand on that, if you don't mind? Thank you so much.

Speaker #4: What do you think this platform looks like in two to three years, perhaps between first-party efforts with Dot, and maybe through, and also with some of the other third-party partnerships?

Speaker #4: And then for Ravi, can you elaborate on the reasons why the unit economics improvement in the core US restaurant business will be lower this year than prior years?

Speaker #4: Is that from maybe slower advertising growth due to scale, or perhaps moderation in some efficiency gains, or maybe reinvestments? Can you expand on that, if you don't mind?

Speaker #4: Thank you so much.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Hey, Deepak. On autonomy, you're absolutely right that the autonomous delivery platform is probably the most valuable part of what we're building, because the way I kind of view it is that in the future, there will be a collection of different vehicles, a fleet of different vehicles, both by land and by air, some of which we'll build inside our four walls.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Deepak. You know, on autonomy, you're absolutely right that the autonomous delivery platform is probably the most valuable part of what we're building. Because the way I kind of view it is that in the future, there will be a collection of different vehicles, a fleet of different vehicles, both by land and by air, you know, some of which we'll build inside our four walls and others of which we will partner. I think, you know, the most important part is actually playing the orchestration of all of the activity and movement and the handoffs. Because it's not gonna be immediately or it's at least not immediately obvious to me that you know autonomous vehicles are gonna perform every single type of delivery.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Deepak. You know, on autonomy, you're absolutely right that the autonomous delivery platform is probably the most valuable part of what we're building. Because the way I kind of view it is that in the future, there will be a collection of different vehicles, a fleet of different vehicles, both by land and by air, you know, some of which we'll build inside our four walls and others of which we will partner. I think, you know, the most important part is actually playing the orchestration of all of the activity and movement and the handoffs. Because it's not gonna be immediately or it's at least not immediately obvious to me that you know autonomous vehicles are gonna perform every single type of delivery.

Speaker #2: And others of which we will partner, and I think the most important part is actually playing the orchestration of all of the activity and movement, and the handoffs.

Speaker #2: Because it's not going to be immediate, or it's at least not immediately obvious to me that autonomous vehicles are going to perform every single type of delivery.

Speaker #2: There are certain times where you're going to see handoffs between Dashers and AVs. At other times, you're going to see AVs perform deliveries that Dashers don't want to do.

Tony Xu: There are certain times where you're gonna see handoffs between, you know, Dashers and AVs. At other times, you're gonna see AVs perform deliveries that Dashers don't want to do. At other times, you're gonna see Dashers perform deliveries that AVs are not well equipped to do. It's really, you know, the kind of goal for 2026 then, is really to figure out what are all of these different use cases? Where can we apply the most pragmatic business impact and customer impact immediately? We're doing that right now in a couple of different markets. We actually have real live deliveries happening right now with AVs, and we're very excited about the future.

Tony Xu: There are certain times where you're gonna see handoffs between, you know, Dashers and AVs. At other times, you're gonna see AVs perform deliveries that Dashers don't want to do. At other times, you're gonna see Dashers perform deliveries that AVs are not well equipped to do. It's really, you know, the kind of goal for 2026 then, is really to figure out what are all of these different use cases? Where can we apply the most pragmatic business impact and customer impact immediately? We're doing that right now in a couple of different markets. We actually have real live deliveries happening right now with AVs, and we're very excited about the future.

Speaker #2: At other times, you're going to see Dashers perform deliveries that AVs are not well equipped to do. And so, really, the goal for 2026 then is to figure out what all of these different use cases are.

Speaker #2: Where can we apply the most pragmatic business impact and customer impact immediately? We're doing that right now in a couple of different markets. So we actually have real live deliveries happening right now with AVs.

Speaker #2: And we're very excited about the future.

Speaker #4: Hey, Deepak. On the US restaurant point, maybe I'll give you a slightly broader answer, right? Look, when I look at the performance of the US restaurant business, it continues to be quite strong.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Deepak, on the US restaurant point, maybe I'll, you know, give you a, like a slightly broader answer, right? So when I look at the performance of the US restaurant business, it continues to be quite strong. In fact, in Q4, the contribution margin for the US restaurant business was up on a year-over-year basis, and I do expect us to continue to improve margins in 2026. When I look at the last few years, I mean, growth has been quite strong. In fact, in 2025, the restaurant business grew faster at a larger scale compared to 2024. Even when I look at the efficiency that we've driven over the last three or four years, it's been quite good. We've driven improvements in margin. Dasher costs have become more efficient, CNR has become more efficient. We've driven leverage in sales and marketing.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Deepak, on the US restaurant point, maybe I'll, you know, give you a, like a slightly broader answer, right? So when I look at the performance of the US restaurant business, it continues to be quite strong. In fact, in Q4, the contribution margin for the US restaurant business was up on a year-over-year basis, and I do expect us to continue to improve margins in 2026. When I look at the last few years, I mean, growth has been quite strong. In fact, in 2025, the restaurant business grew faster at a larger scale compared to 2024. Even when I look at the efficiency that we've driven over the last three or four years, it's been quite good. We've driven improvements in margin. Dasher costs have become more efficient, CNR has become more efficient. We've driven leverage in sales and marketing.

Speaker #4: In fact, in Q4, the contribution margin for the US restaurant business was up on a year-over-year basis. And I do expect us to continue to improve margins in 2026.

Speaker #4: When I look at the last few years, I mean, growth has been quite strong. In fact, in 2025, the restaurant business grew faster at a larger scale compared to 2024.

Speaker #4: And even when I look at the efficiency that we've driven over the last three or four years, it's been quite good. We've driven improvements in margin, and Dasher costs have become more efficient.

Speaker #4: C&R has become more efficient. We've driven leverage in sales and marketing. Like you called out, ads is becoming a larger portion of the overall business.

Ravi Inukonda: Like you called out, ads is becoming a larger portion of the overall business, and we're still continuing to invest behind that business, whether it's selection, you know, quality, affordability. As I look ahead, I do expect us to continue to improve margins, you know, albeit it will be at a lower pace compared to prior years. Some of that is gonna come from DashPass. As you know, DashPass had a record year as well as a record quarter. DashPass is gonna have an impact on margin. But look, overall, the ROI is strong because profit dollar production is gonna be high, largely because very simple: subscribers retain more, they order more, which means that they produce more gross profit dollars. Look, our focus has always been on overall profit dollar production, which continues to be quite strong.

Ravi Inukonda: Like you called out, ads is becoming a larger portion of the overall business, and we're still continuing to invest behind that business, whether it's selection, you know, quality, affordability. As I look ahead, I do expect us to continue to improve margins, you know, albeit it will be at a lower pace compared to prior years. Some of that is gonna come from DashPass. As you know, DashPass had a record year as well as a record quarter. DashPass is gonna have an impact on margin. But look, overall, the ROI is strong because profit dollar production is gonna be high, largely because very simple: subscribers retain more, they order more, which means that they produce more gross profit dollars. Look, our focus has always been on overall profit dollar production, which continues to be quite strong.

Speaker #4: And we're still continuing to invest behind that business, whether it's selection, quality, or affordability. As I look ahead, I do expect us to continue to improve margins, albeit it will be at a lower pace compared to prior years.

Speaker #4: Some of that is going to come from DashPass. As you know, DashPass had a record year as well as a record quarter. DashPass is going to have an impact on margin.

Speaker #4: But look, overall, the ROI is strong because profit dollar production is going to be high, largely because it's very simple. Subscribers retain more. They order more, which means that they produce more gross profit dollars.

Speaker #4: Look, our focus has always been on overall profit dollar production. Which continues to be quite strong. And when I look at the top line and the bottom line of the restaurant business, both continue to be very healthy.

Ravi Inukonda: When I look at the top line and the bottom line of the restaurant business, both continue to be very healthy.

Ravi Inukonda: When I look at the top line and the bottom line of the restaurant business, both continue to be very healthy.

Speaker #4: Right. Thank you so much.

Deepak Mathivanan: Great. Thank you so much.

Deepak Mathivanan: Great. Thank you so much.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Squally with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Youssef Squali with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Youssef Squali with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Great, thanks for taking the questions. Maybe Tony, just a question on competition again, but maybe from a grocery and perishables perspective. So as Amazon is doubling down on those categories, can you maybe talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of your growth within that category in Q4?

Youssef Squali: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe, Tony, just a question on competition again, but maybe from a grocery and perishables perspective. So as Amazon is doubling down on those categories, can you maybe talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of your growth within that category in Q4? And have you seen any changes in the competitive landscape so far? And then, Ravi, on the headwinds to Q1 margins, can you just help us kind of quantify the impact of the higher Dasher costs? And I know there's a seasonal effect there, but is it more seasonal this year than in prior years, or is it just normal seasonality? Thank you.

Youssef Squali: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe, Tony, just a question on competition again, but maybe from a grocery and perishables perspective. So as Amazon is doubling down on those categories, can you maybe talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of your growth within that category in Q4? And have you seen any changes in the competitive landscape so far? And then, Ravi, on the headwinds to Q1 margins, can you just help us kind of quantify the impact of the higher Dasher costs? And I know there's a seasonal effect there, but is it more seasonal this year than in prior years, or is it just normal seasonality? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And have you seen any changes in the competitive landscape so far? And then, Ravi, on the headwinds to Q1 margins, can you just help us kind of quantify the impact of the higher Dasher costs?

Speaker #5: And I know there's a seasonal effect there, but is it more seasonal this year than in prior years, or is it just normal seasonality?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Hey, yeah, on the first question regarding grocery, in short, no, we haven't seen an impact on our growth. In fact, we continued very high growth rates, kind of as fast as we've seen in the grocery sector, not just in Q4, but also for this year as well.

Tony Xu: Yeah, hey, Youssef, yeah, on the first question regarding grocery, you know, in short, no, we haven't seen an impact on our growth. In fact, you know, we continued very high growth rates, kind of, as fast as we've, you know, seen in the grocery sector, not just in Q4, but also, you know, for this year as well. And I think, if you, you know, if you think about perhaps why, we continue to see fast growth, I think there are a few points.

Tony Xu: Yeah, hey, Youssef, yeah, on the first question regarding grocery, you know, in short, no, we haven't seen an impact on our growth. In fact, you know, we continued very high growth rates, kind of, as fast as we've, you know, seen in the grocery sector, not just in Q4, but also, you know, for this year as well. And I think, if you, you know, if you think about perhaps why, we continue to see fast growth, I think there are a few points.

Speaker #2: And I think if you think about perhaps why we continue to see fast growth, I think there are a few points. The first thing I would say is, if you think about what we're trying to create, we're trying to create a world in which there's the maximal amount of choice.

Tony Xu: You know, the first thing I would say is, if you think about what we're trying to create, we're trying to create a world in which there's, you know, the maximal amount of choice for what customers can get delivered, and that includes all of the grocers. You know, there's a reason, you know, why there exists, you know, tens of thousands of supermarkets in the US. It's not just because it's a large geography, it's because, you know, the average customer does buy from a couple of different places when it comes to their groceries. Whether it's, you know, buying from, you know, place A for their meat and fish, place B for their produce, place C for their pantry items, place D for some specialty items, et cetera.

Tony Xu: You know, the first thing I would say is, if you think about what we're trying to create, we're trying to create a world in which there's, you know, the maximal amount of choice for what customers can get delivered, and that includes all of the grocers. You know, there's a reason, you know, why there exists, you know, tens of thousands of supermarkets in the US. It's not just because it's a large geography, it's because, you know, the average customer does buy from a couple of different places when it comes to their groceries. Whether it's, you know, buying from, you know, place A for their meat and fish, place B for their produce, place C for their pantry items, place D for some specialty items, et cetera.

Speaker #2: For what customers can get delivered. And that includes all of the grocers. There's a reason why there exist tens of thousands of supermarkets in the US.

Speaker #2: It's not just because it's a large geography. It's because the average customer does buy from a couple of different places. When it comes to their groceries, whether it's buying from place A for their meat and fish, place B for their produce, place C for their pantry items, place D for some specialty items, etc.

Speaker #2: And I think DoorDash is the place where you can get all of this at the best possible price and the highest quality of delivery.

Tony Xu: And I think DoorDash is a place in which you can get all of this at the best possible price and the highest quality of delivery. And so that's, I think, you know, our angle at it, where we think that in the future, so long as you believe that customers are gonna want choice, and I think that can be, you know, well reasoned, when you just look at the landscape of grocery and how there exists so many grocers out there, which indicates that I think consumers prefer choice, then that will continue to be very strong, you know, interest in the DoorDash product.

Tony Xu: And I think DoorDash is a place in which you can get all of this at the best possible price and the highest quality of delivery. And so that's, I think, you know, our angle at it, where we think that in the future, so long as you believe that customers are gonna want choice, and I think that can be, you know, well reasoned, when you just look at the landscape of grocery and how there exists so many grocers out there, which indicates that I think consumers prefer choice, then that will continue to be very strong, you know, interest in the DoorDash product.

Speaker #2: And so that's, I think, our angle at it, where we think that in the future, so long as you believe that customers are going to want choice—and I think that can be well-reasoned when you just look at the landscape of grocery and how there exist so many grocers out there—which indicates that, I think, consumers prefer choice.

Speaker #2: Then that will continue to be very strong interest in the DoorDash product. And then especially if you add some of the capabilities now we're adding, where we're adding fulfillment services with dashboard fulfillment service, where we're increasing the quality and doing that for every single grocer so that they have the capability to compete against companies like Amazon.

Tony Xu: Then, especially if you add some of the capabilities now we're adding, where we're adding, you know, fulfillment services with DashMart Fulfillment Services, where we're increasing the, the quality, and doing that for every single grocer so that they have the capability to compete against companies like Amazon, you know, I think that just bolsters the product offering.

Tony Xu: Then, especially if you add some of the capabilities now we're adding, where we're adding, you know, fulfillment services with DashMart Fulfillment Services, where we're increasing the, the quality, and doing that for every single grocer so that they have the capability to compete against companies like Amazon, you know, I think that just bolsters the product offering.

Speaker #2: I think that just bolsters the product offering.

Speaker #4: Hey, Joseph, on your second point, I think it goes on Q1 EBITDA as well as Dasher. Look, I mean, I think there's a couple of factors in Q1.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Youssef, on your second point, I think it was on Q1 EBITDA as well as Dasher. Look, I mean, I think there's a couple of factors in Q1. One, it's just phasing of investment, which is somewhat unique this year in the sense that we are investing in Root. Some of that investment is front-loaded. I expect Q1 EBITDA from Root to be about $25 million lower than Q4, but the full year number is still $200 million, which stays very consistent. The second part is, there was an impact because of the winter storms in January. That's roughly about $20 million. And finally, to your point, Dasher has been very seasonal, right? Like, we saw seasonal impact of Dasher in Q1 every single year over the last several years, 2023, 2024, 2025. 2026, I would expect it to be very similar.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Youssef, on your second point, I think it was on Q1 EBITDA as well as Dasher. Look, I mean, I think there's a couple of factors in Q1. One, it's just phasing of investment, which is somewhat unique this year in the sense that we are investing in Root. Some of that investment is front-loaded. I expect Q1 EBITDA from Root to be about $25 million lower than Q4, but the full year number is still $200 million, which stays very consistent. The second part is, there was an impact because of the winter storms in January. That's roughly about $20 million. And finally, to your point, Dasher has been very seasonal, right? Like, we saw seasonal impact of Dasher in Q1 every single year over the last several years, 2023, 2024, 2025. 2026, I would expect it to be very similar.

Speaker #4: One, it's just phasing off investment, which is somewhat unique this year in the sense that we are investing in Roux. Some of that investment is front-loaded.

Speaker #4: I expect Q1 EBITDA from Roux to be about $25 million lower than Q4. But the full year number is still $200 million, which stays very consistent.

Speaker #4: The second part is, there was an impact because of the winter storms in January—that's roughly about $20 million. And finally, to your point, Dasher has been very seasonal, right?

Speaker #4: We saw a seasonal impact on Dashers in Q1. Every single year for the last several years—2023, 2024, 2025, 2026—I would expect it to be very similar.

Speaker #4: But your second point around your broader Dasher—look, I mean, Dasher trends fairly consistent with what we've seen in years prior. When I look at Dasher cost as a percentage of GOV, we generated leverage in Q4 on a year-over-year basis.

Ravi Inukonda: But your second point around, you know, broader Dasher, look, I mean, Dasher trends fairly consistent with what we've seen in years prior. When I look at Dasher cost as a percentage of GOV, we generated leverage in Q4 on a year-over-year basis, and I expect us to continue to generate some leverage in Q1 as well, when I look at it as a percentage of GOV on a year-over-year basis.

Ravi Inukonda: But your second point around, you know, broader Dasher, look, I mean, Dasher trends fairly consistent with what we've seen in years prior. When I look at Dasher cost as a percentage of GOV, we generated leverage in Q4 on a year-over-year basis, and I expect us to continue to generate some leverage in Q1 as well, when I look at it as a percentage of GOV on a year-over-year basis.

Speaker #4: And I expect us to continue to generate some leverage in Q1 as well. When I look at it as a percentage of GOV on a year-over-year basis.

Speaker #5: Great. Thank you both.

Youssef Squali: Great. Thank you both.

Youssef Squali: Great. Thank you both.

Speaker #4: No problem.

Ravi Inukonda: No problem.

Ravi Inukonda: No problem.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Josh Beck with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Josh Beck with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Josh Beck with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Yeah. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to ask, I know it's only been maybe about five months since you've closed Deliveroo. Have there been any standout learnings when you think about the loyalty program or the fulfillment network or merchant terms?

Josh Beck: Yeah, thank you for, for taking the question. I wanted to ask, I know it's only been maybe about five months since you've closed, Deliveroo, have there been any standout learnings when you think about the loyalty program or the fulfillment network or merchant terms? Just anything that has really jumped out to you as an opportunity area to lean in towards. And then on the platform modernization, I know it's arguably very early there as well, but, anything you can update us on in terms of maybe some of the efficiencies that you're expecting to gain, and maybe how that could either accelerate philosophy or maybe free up, you know, investments elsewhere? Just would really like updates on, on, on those topics. Thank you.

Josh Beck: Yeah, thank you for, for taking the question. I wanted to ask, I know it's only been maybe about five months since you've closed, Deliveroo, have there been any standout learnings when you think about the loyalty program or the fulfillment network or merchant terms? Just anything that has really jumped out to you as an opportunity area to lean in towards. And then on the platform modernization, I know it's arguably very early there as well, but, anything you can update us on in terms of maybe some of the efficiencies that you're expecting to gain, and maybe how that could either accelerate philosophy or maybe free up, you know, investments elsewhere? Just would really like updates on, on, on those topics. Thank you.

Speaker #5: Just anything that has really jumped out to you as an opportunity area to lean in towards? And then on the platform modernization, I know it's arguably very early there as well.

Speaker #5: But is there anything you can update us on in terms of maybe some of the efficiencies that you're expecting to gain, and maybe how that could either accelerate velocity or possibly free up investments elsewhere?

Speaker #5: Just would really like updates on those topics. Thank you.

Tony Xu: Sure. Hey, Josh, it's Tony. I'll maybe take a crack at both questions, and feel free to jump in, Ravi. You know, on the Deliveroo, you know, I think to kind of echo what we've said on the call so far, it's just been a great start. I mean, like, you know, I think the numbers and the performance speaks for itself. Whenever you're growing faster, you know, at the same budget and you see more room for upside, I think that's always a great place to start. You know, with respect to opportunities to improve, yeah, I agree. There's a ton of things we kind of have identified. You know, I think we'll be able to ship, you know, many things, this I mean, frankly, this quarter, to be able to improve.

Speaker #2: Sure. Hey, Josh. It's Tony. I'll maybe take a crack at both questions and feel free to jump in, Ravi. On Deliveroo, I think to kind of echo what we said on the call so far, it's just been a great start.

Tony Xu: Sure. Hey, Josh, it's Tony. I'll maybe take a crack at both questions, and feel free to jump in, Ravi. You know, on the Deliveroo, you know, I think to kind of echo what we've said on the call so far, it's just been a great start. I mean, like, you know, I think the numbers and the performance speaks for itself. Whenever you're growing faster, you know, at the same budget and you see more room for upside, I think that's always a great place to start. You know, with respect to opportunities to improve, yeah, I agree. There's a ton of things we kind of have identified. You know, I think we'll be able to ship, you know, many things, this I mean, frankly, this quarter, to be able to improve.

Speaker #2: I mean, I think the numbers and the performance speak for themselves. Whenever you're growing faster at the same budget, and you see more room for upside, I think that's always a great place to start.

Speaker #2: With respect to opportunities to improve, yeah, I agree. There's a ton of things we kind of have identified. I think we'll be able to ship many things I mean, frankly, this quarter to be able to improve.

Speaker #2: And it's really just across the board. I mean, when I look at these kinds of businesses, it's really a bunch of small things that add up to make the difference.

Tony Xu: And it's really just across the board. I mean, when I look at, you know, these kinds of businesses, it's really a bunch of small things that add up to make the difference. There's never, like, one glaring, huge thing, because usually when there is, that's a very, actually, quite simple fix. It's usually the combined sum of lots of small things that compound that ultimately, you know, is what allows us to offer surplus to customers, or a deficit, and fail at delivering what the customers want. And so we see opportunity pretty much across the board, and we're shipping, you know, things literally every single day to improve them.

Tony Xu: And it's really just across the board. I mean, when I look at, you know, these kinds of businesses, it's really a bunch of small things that add up to make the difference. There's never, like, one glaring, huge thing, because usually when there is, that's a very, actually, quite simple fix. It's usually the combined sum of lots of small things that compound that ultimately, you know, is what allows us to offer surplus to customers, or a deficit, and fail at delivering what the customers want. And so we see opportunity pretty much across the board, and we're shipping, you know, things literally every single day to improve them.

Speaker #2: There's never one glaring, huge thing, because usually when there is, that's actually a quite simple fix. It's usually the combined sum of lots of small things that compound; that ultimately is what allows us to offer surplus to customers.

Speaker #2: Or a deficit and fail at delivering what the customers want. And so we see opportunity pretty much across the board, and we're shipping things literally every single day to improve them.

Speaker #2: So, we've already seen benefits from things that we've taken from our lessons learned at building DoorDash, at acquiring Volt, and have shipped those to our audiences over at Deliveroo to see improvements in all of the audiences.

Tony Xu: So we've already, you know, seen benefits from things that we've taken from our lessons learned at, you know, building DoorDash, at acquiring Bolt, and have shipped those to our audiences over at Deliveroo to see improvements in all of the audiences. On the second question, with respect to the tech platform, you're completely right in the hypo- in the kind of premise of the question, where I believe, you know, right now, if you think about our setup, it's really not ideal. We have, you know, we operate on three tech platforms, you know, pretty much a very similar business. And that. What does that mean?

Tony Xu: So we've already, you know, seen benefits from things that we've taken from our lessons learned at, you know, building DoorDash, at acquiring Bolt, and have shipped those to our audiences over at Deliveroo to see improvements in all of the audiences. On the second question, with respect to the tech platform, you're completely right in the hypo- in the kind of premise of the question, where I believe, you know, right now, if you think about our setup, it's really not ideal. We have, you know, we operate on three tech platforms, you know, pretty much a very similar business. And that. What does that mean?

Speaker #2: On the second question with respect to the tech platform, you're completely right in the kind of premise of the question, where I believe right now, if you think about our setup, it's really not ideal.

Speaker #2: We operate on three tech platforms—pretty much a very similar business. And what does that mean? That means that you're going to be slowed down, because in order to ship one feature, you have to ship that three times, in slightly different tool calls and kind of processes that make no sense.

Tony Xu: That means that you're gonna be slowed down, because in order to, you know, ship one feature, you have to ship that three times in slightly different, you know, tool calls and kind of processes that make no sense. And so what we're doing is we're making this, you know, pretty big investment in order to both improve the velocity in which we ship as kind of, you know, to clear out some of the, you know, inefficiencies that I described, and also just be more efficient with our global footprint, right? And I think we'll be able to do both of those things, you know, as a result of building this tech platform.

Tony Xu: That means that you're gonna be slowed down, because in order to, you know, ship one feature, you have to ship that three times in slightly different, you know, tool calls and kind of processes that make no sense. And so what we're doing is we're making this, you know, pretty big investment in order to both improve the velocity in which we ship as kind of, you know, to clear out some of the, you know, inefficiencies that I described, and also just be more efficient with our global footprint, right? And I think we'll be able to do both of those things, you know, as a result of building this tech platform.

Speaker #2: And so what we're doing is we're making this pretty big investment in order to both improve the velocity in which we ship, as kind of to clear out some of the inefficiencies that I described, and also just be more efficient with our global footprint, right?

Speaker #2: And I think we'll be able to do both of those things as a result of building this tech platform. But I think above all else, actually, we've already seen this kind of play out nicely in the four months that we've worked together with Deliveroo where when we do ship something that has worked in the US for us or in another part of Europe with Volt, to Deliveroo, it has added immediate impact to the customer audience.

Tony Xu: But, I think above all else, actually, you know, we've already seen this kind of play out nicely in the, you know, 4 months that we've worked together with Deliveroo, where when we do ship something that has worked in the US for us or in another part of Europe with Wolt to Deliveroo, it has added immediate impact to the customer audience, and we see hundreds of those opportunities in the platform work that we're doing, moving everyone into the single tech stack, that I think customers across all audiences will benefit.

Tony Xu: But, I think above all else, actually, you know, we've already seen this kind of play out nicely in the, you know, 4 months that we've worked together with Deliveroo, where when we do ship something that has worked in the US for us or in another part of Europe with Wolt to Deliveroo, it has added immediate impact to the customer audience, and we see hundreds of those opportunities in the platform work that we're doing, moving everyone into the single tech stack, that I think customers across all audiences will benefit.

Speaker #2: And we see hundreds of those opportunities in the platform work that we're doing moving every one into the single tech stack that I think customers across all audiences will benefit.

Speaker #5: Super helpful. Thanks, Tony.

Ross Sandler: Super helpful. Thanks, Tony.

Ross Sandler: Super helpful. Thanks, Tony.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs, your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Thanks so much for taking the questions. With respect to DashPass, how does that fit within your broader strategic priorities? And when you think about growth investments in the business in terms of incenting DashPass adoption more broadly across your markets, and then in terms of DashPass adoption, how do you think about that as a potential stimulant for order frequency when you think about cohort evolution, looking out over the next 12 to 18 months?

Eric Sheridan: Thanks so much for taking the questions. With respect to DashPass, how does that fit within your broader strategic priorities, and what do you think about growth investments in the business in terms of incenting DashPass adoption more broadly across your markets? And then, in terms of DashPass adoption, how do you think about that as a potential stimulant for order frequency when you think about cohort evolution looking out over the next 12 to 18 months? Thanks so much.

Eric Sheridan: Thanks so much for taking the questions. With respect to DashPass, how does that fit within your broader strategic priorities, and what do you think about growth investments in the business in terms of incenting DashPass adoption more broadly across your markets? And then, in terms of DashPass adoption, how do you think about that as a potential stimulant for order frequency when you think about cohort evolution looking out over the next 12 to 18 months? Thanks so much.

Speaker #5: Thanks so much.

Speaker #2: Hey, Eric. It's Tony. I'll maybe start on DashPass and feel free to add in Ravi. I mean, DashPass is critical to our business. If you look at this program, it's a program that we started at the end of 2017, really shifted in 2018.

Tony Xu: Hey, Eric, it's Tony. I'll maybe start on DashPass and, you know, feel free to add in, Ravi. I mean, DashPass is critical to our business. If you look at, you know, this program, it's a program that we started at the end of 2017, really shifted in 2018. And it's continued to be the core driver of our relationship with consumers. And, and I think it's, you know, grown in leaps and bounds, not just in some of the numbers that, you know, we've reported, but also in terms of the benefits that, you know, we're starting to, you know, ship to customers.

Tony Xu: Hey, Eric, it's Tony. I'll maybe start on DashPass and, you know, feel free to add in, Ravi. I mean, DashPass is critical to our business. If you look at, you know, this program, it's a program that we started at the end of 2017, really shifted in 2018. And it's continued to be the core driver of our relationship with consumers. And, and I think it's, you know, grown in leaps and bounds, not just in some of the numbers that, you know, we've reported, but also in terms of the benefits that, you know, we're starting to, you know, ship to customers.

Speaker #2: And it's continued to be the core driver of our relationship with consumers. And I think it's grown in leaps and bounds, not just in some of the numbers that we've reported, but also in terms of the benefits that we're starting to ship to customers.

Speaker #2: And our goal right with DashPass is to continue to increase the number of benefits in which we can offer. And we think there's a lot to do.

Tony Xu: And, you know, our goal, right, you know, with DashPass, is to continue to increase the number of benefits in which we can offer, and we think there's a lot to do. You know, for example, you know, a lot of the benefits that you've seen recently, has occurred as we've launched all of our non-restaurant categories, right? We are effectively charging the same fee for DashPass. We're adding even more value to get, you know, discounted or preferential pricing delivery, you know, for, you know, more complicated deliveries in retail and grocery, and more valued, you know, you know, discounts on, on, key value items, things like this. You know, another potential area that we see a ton of opportunity is all of the work that we're doing with our in-store business.

Tony Xu: And, you know, our goal, right, you know, with DashPass, is to continue to increase the number of benefits in which we can offer, and we think there's a lot to do. You know, for example, you know, a lot of the benefits that you've seen recently, has occurred as we've launched all of our non-restaurant categories, right? We are effectively charging the same fee for DashPass. We're adding even more value to get, you know, discounted or preferential pricing delivery, you know, for, you know, more complicated deliveries in retail and grocery, and more valued, you know, you know, discounts on, on, key value items, things like this. You know, another potential area that we see a ton of opportunity is all of the work that we're doing with our in-store business.

Speaker #2: For example, a lot of the benefits that you've seen recently has occurred as we've launched all of our non-restaurant categories, right? We are effectively charging the same fee for DashPass.

Speaker #2: We're adding even more value to get discounted or preferential pricing delivery for more complicated deliveries in retail and grocery and more valued discounts on key value items, things like this.

Speaker #2: Another potential area that we see a ton of opportunity is all of the work that we're doing with our in-store business. We announced our in-store business in 2025 during the September Dashboard Product Event, where we're starting to drive traffic inside to restaurants now with our 50 to 60 million MAUs, our over 100 million annual customers.

Tony Xu: You know, we announced our in-store business in 2025, during the September Dash Forward product event, where we're starting to drive traffic inside to restaurants now with our, you know, 56 million MAUs, our, you know, over 100 million annual customers, and, offering them, you know, either access or value to restaurants that they couldn't get otherwise if they were not members. I think the DashPass ecosystem has a long runway ahead of it. You know, if I kind of take a step back and kind of just think about that in quantitative terms, if you think... Right now, you know, the average DashPass customer might be interacting with us, you know, a couple of times a week or something like that.

Tony Xu: You know, we announced our in-store business in 2025, during the September Dash Forward product event, where we're starting to drive traffic inside to restaurants now with our, you know, 56 million MAUs, our, you know, over 100 million annual customers, and, offering them, you know, either access or value to restaurants that they couldn't get otherwise if they were not members. I think the DashPass ecosystem has a long runway ahead of it. You know, if I kind of take a step back and kind of just think about that in quantitative terms, if you think... Right now, you know, the average DashPass customer might be interacting with us, you know, a couple of times a week or something like that.

Speaker #2: And offering them either access or value to restaurants that they couldn't get otherwise if they were not members. And so I think the DashPass ecosystem has a long runway ahead of it.

Speaker #2: And if I kind of take a step back and kind of just think about that in quantitative terms, right now, the average DashPass customer might be interacting with us a couple of times a week or something like that.

Speaker #2: But when I think about the number of eating occasions, there are 20 to 25. And then when I add in the shopping occasions on top of food consumption, it exceeds 20 to 25.

Tony Xu: But when I think about the number of eating occasions, there are 20 to 25, and then when I add in the shopping occasions on top of food consumption, it exceeds 20 to 25. So I think we're a fraction or a single-digit percentage of what DashPass could actually achieve. So there's a lot of work to drive frequency, but that starts with adding more use cases to add more value.

Tony Xu: But when I think about the number of eating occasions, there are 20 to 25, and then when I add in the shopping occasions on top of food consumption, it exceeds 20 to 25. So I think we're a fraction or a single-digit percentage of what DashPass could actually achieve. So there's a lot of work to drive frequency, but that starts with adding more use cases to add more value.

Speaker #2: So I think we're at a fraction, or a single-digit percentage, of what DashPass could actually achieve. So, there's a lot of work to drive frequency, but that starts with adding more use cases to add more value.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Ross Sandler with Barclays, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ross Sandler with Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ross Sandler with Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Yeah, I just wanted to ask too, can we get an update on the storefront software business and how SevenRooms and kind of the CRM part of it might be accelerating the efforts on that side?

Ross Sandler: Yeah, I just wanted to ask, too, can we get an update on the Storefront software business and how SevenRooms and kind of the CRM part of it might be kind of accelerating the efforts on that side? And then back to the replatforming. You guys have done a nice job of laying out how these components are coming together. Just the question is on timing. So clearly, this will benefit both, like, speed of new features being rolled out and potentially expanding products or geos. When do we kind of see the benefits starting to show up? Is this gonna be, like, a continuous thing in 2026 onward, or is it more kind of like after this year? Just any thoughts on the timing. Thanks a lot.

Ross Sandler: Yeah, I just wanted to ask, too, can we get an update on the Storefront software business and how SevenRooms and kind of the CRM part of it might be kind of accelerating the efforts on that side? And then back to the replatforming. You guys have done a nice job of laying out how these components are coming together. Just the question is on timing. So clearly, this will benefit both, like, speed of new features being rolled out and potentially expanding products or geos. When do we kind of see the benefits starting to show up? Is this gonna be, like, a continuous thing in 2026 onward, or is it more kind of like after this year? Just any thoughts on the timing. Thanks a lot.

Speaker #5: And then, back to the replatforming—you guys have done a nice job of laying out how these components are coming together. Just the question is on timing.

Speaker #5: So clearly, this will benefit both the speed of new features being rolled out and potentially expanding products or geos. When do we kind of see the benefits starting to show up?

Speaker #5: Is this going to be like a continuous thing in 26 onward, or is it more kind of like after this year? Just any thoughts on the timing?

Speaker #5: Thanks a lot.

Speaker #2: Yeah. I can start. So on the first question with respect to storefront and software in general, it's going really well. I mean, if you look at the integration of seven rooms, that also has been a relatively newer project for us.

Tony Xu: Yeah, I can start. So on first question, with respect to, you know, Storefront and software in general. It's going really well. I mean, like, if you look at the integration of SevenRooms, you know, that also has been a relatively newer project for us, you know, about six months in partnership with the SevenRooms team. And, you know, already we've been able to tremendously speed up their work. I mean, they're now adding venues 50% faster post-acquisition than, you know, before we partnered with them.

Tony Xu: Yeah, I can start. So on first question, with respect to, you know, Storefront and software in general. It's going really well. I mean, like, if you look at the integration of SevenRooms, you know, that also has been a relatively newer project for us, you know, about six months in partnership with the SevenRooms team. And, you know, already we've been able to tremendously speed up their work. I mean, they're now adding venues 50% faster post-acquisition than, you know, before we partnered with them.

Speaker #2: About six months in partnership with the seven rooms team. And already, we've been able to tremendously speed up their work. I mean, they're now adding venues 50% faster post-acquisition than before we partnered with them.

Speaker #2: And if you think about we step back and think about the thesis, it's kind of proving the thesis that if you can add the best-in-class CRM software, with the largest demand generator platform, which is DoorDash, it is a really valuable asset for these restaurateurs who really want to build more regular customers and have that direct relationship.

Tony Xu: And if you think about, like, we step back and think about the thesis, it's kind of proving the thesis that if you can add the best-in-class CRM software with the largest demand generator, platform, which is DoorDash, it is a really valuable asset, you know, for these restaurateurs who really want to build more regular customers, and have that direct relationship. That is also true for the Storefront products, which, you know, is less about in-room dining or in-store dining and much more about the takeaway, product. But especially as we expand kind of the merchant cohorts in which SevenRooms currently addresses, it's, you know, SevenRooms is kind of serving the higher-end kind of cohort of restaurants.

Tony Xu: And if you think about, like, we step back and think about the thesis, it's kind of proving the thesis that if you can add the best-in-class CRM software with the largest demand generator, platform, which is DoorDash, it is a really valuable asset, you know, for these restaurateurs who really want to build more regular customers, and have that direct relationship. That is also true for the Storefront products, which, you know, is less about in-room dining or in-store dining and much more about the takeaway, product. But especially as we expand kind of the merchant cohorts in which SevenRooms currently addresses, it's, you know, SevenRooms is kind of serving the higher-end kind of cohort of restaurants.

Speaker #2: That is also true for the storefront products. Which is less about in-room dining or in-store dining and much more about the takeaway product. But especially as we expand kind of the merchant cohorts in which seven rooms currently addresses, it's seven rooms is kind of serving the higher-end kind of cohort of restaurants.

Speaker #2: But as we simplify the features to be able to address a larger segment, that's where storefront and seven rooms really can team up to both serve a restaurant's four-wall business as well as their business outside their premise.

Tony Xu: But as we simplify the features to be able to address a larger segment, that's where Storefront and SevenRooms really can team up to both serve a restaurant's four-wall business as well as their business outside their premise. You know, your second question on the timing of the tech stack. Look, I wish that the tech stack were already here, but the truth is, you'll see a majority of the tech stack work completed this year, or that's at least my expectation. And I think it, with respect to the benefits, you know, you don't have to wait all at once.

Tony Xu: But as we simplify the features to be able to address a larger segment, that's where Storefront and SevenRooms really can team up to both serve a restaurant's four-wall business as well as their business outside their premise. You know, your second question on the timing of the tech stack. Look, I wish that the tech stack were already here, but the truth is, you'll see a majority of the tech stack work completed this year, or that's at least my expectation. And I think it, with respect to the benefits, you know, you don't have to wait all at once.

Speaker #2: Your second question on the timing of the tech stack—look, I wish that the tech stack were already here, but the truth is you'll see a majority of the tech stack work completed this year, or that's at least my expectation.

Speaker #2: And I think, with respect to the benefits, you don't have to wait all at once. In fact, we're already seeing benefits from the work we're doing.

Tony Xu: In fact, we're already seeing benefits from the work we're doing with the global tech stack in all of our different geographies, in which we're shipping features from one market that are working into a different market. So that's already happening. That's, in fact, one way in which you can test whether or not, you know, the value of the tech stack actually has any positive value to customers. And so we're seeing that. But yeah, we expect, we expect the majority of the work to be, to be done this year.

Tony Xu: In fact, we're already seeing benefits from the work we're doing with the global tech stack in all of our different geographies, in which we're shipping features from one market that are working into a different market. So that's already happening. That's, in fact, one way in which you can test whether or not, you know, the value of the tech stack actually has any positive value to customers. And so we're seeing that. But yeah, we expect, we expect the majority of the work to be, to be done this year.

Speaker #2: With the global tech stack in all of our different geographies, we're able to ship features from one market that are working into a different market.

Speaker #2: So that's already happening. That's, in fact, one way in which you can test whether or not the value of the tech stack actually has any positive value to customers.

Speaker #2: And so we're seeing that. But yeah, we expect the majority of the work to be done this year.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Ken Goralski with Wells Fargo, your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ken Gawrelski with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ken Gawrelski with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Thank you so much. Two, if I may, please. First, could you provide some color on what you see in the cohort data that gives you the confidence in continued robust core U.S. restaurant growth?

Ken Gawrelski: Thank you so much. Two, if I may, please. First, could you, could you provide some color on what you see in the cohort data that gives you the confidence in continued robust core US restaurant growth? Anything you might share on how later adopters behave differently than the base? And the second question, I just want to touch one more, maybe on where Ross was going. And as we looked at 27, I know it's really early to speak about 27, and we appreciate the color on the 26 quarters, but anyway, any early take you could give us on the balance between investments and margins beyond 26? And, you know, any early thoughts on how you view incremental margins beyond 26 versus maybe historical? Thank you.

Ken Gawrelski: Thank you so much. Two, if I may, please. First, could you, could you provide some color on what you see in the cohort data that gives you the confidence in continued robust core US restaurant growth? Anything you might share on how later adopters behave differently than the base? And the second question, I just want to touch one more, maybe on where Ross was going. And as we looked at 27, I know it's really early to speak about 27, and we appreciate the color on the 26 quarters, but anyway, any early take you could give us on the balance between investments and margins beyond 26? And, you know, any early thoughts on how you view incremental margins beyond 26 versus maybe historical? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Anything you might share on how later adopters behave differently than the base? And the second question—I just want to touch once more, maybe, on where Ross was going.

Speaker #5: And as we looked at 27, I know it's really early to speak about 27, and we appreciate the color on the 26 quarters. But any early take you could give us on the balance between investments and margins beyond 26?

Speaker #5: And any early thoughts on how you view incremental margins beyond '26 versus maybe historical? Thank you.

Speaker #2: Sure. Hey again, I'll take the first one too. Look, I mean, when I look at the performance of the US restaurant business, right, like I said in the earlier question, I mean, '25 grew faster than '24 at a larger scale.

Ravi Inukonda: Sure. Again, I'll take the first one, too. Look, I mean, when I look at the performance of the US restaurant business, right, like I said in the earlier question, I mean, 2025 grew faster than 2024 at a larger scale. I think that should tell you the health of the underlying cohorts. MAUs continue to be quite strong. In fact, we're at an all-time high in terms of MAUs. Order frequency continues to be quite strong. When I look at the engagement of new consumers that still join, I mean, that continues to be quite strong. And the other thing that you're seeing is, I mean, subscription continues to be a big driver of growth for us. Both Q4 as well as 2025, we added record number of subscribers.

Ravi Inukonda: Sure. Again, I'll take the first one, too. Look, I mean, when I look at the performance of the US restaurant business, right, like I said in the earlier question, I mean, 2025 grew faster than 2024 at a larger scale. I think that should tell you the health of the underlying cohorts. MAUs continue to be quite strong. In fact, we're at an all-time high in terms of MAUs. Order frequency continues to be quite strong. When I look at the engagement of new consumers that still join, I mean, that continues to be quite strong. And the other thing that you're seeing is, I mean, subscription continues to be a big driver of growth for us. Both Q4 as well as 2025, we added record number of subscribers.

Speaker #2: I think that should tell you the health of the underlying cohorts. And may use continue to be quite strong. In fact, we hit an all-time high in terms of MAUs.

Speaker #2: Order frequency continues to be quite strong. When I look at the engagement of new consumers that still join, I mean, that continues to be quite strong.

Speaker #2: And the other thing that you're seeing is, I mean, subscription continues to be a big driver of growth for us. Both Q4 as well as 25, we added record number of subscribers.

Speaker #2: What you're seeing in the business is as the product continues to get better, there's more people that habituate. They graduate towards subscription. Subscription, they retain more.

Ravi Inukonda: What you're seeing in the business is, as the product continues to get better, there's more people that habituate. They graduate towards subscription. Subscription, you know, they retain more, they order more, as well as they try new categories. So overall, when I look at the mature cohorts as well as the newer cohorts, the engagement level in the US business continues to be strong, not just across restaurants, but even our new verticals business. And I think your second question again was, you know, just, you know, sort of like incremental margins. Look, I mean, we're not guiding the business towards incremental margins. We're not operating the business towards incremental margin. Our focus has always been on overall profit dollar production. But just to, you know, frame your thinking in terms of, you know, overall tech stack and what the impact there is, right?

Ravi Inukonda: What you're seeing in the business is, as the product continues to get better, there's more people that habituate. They graduate towards subscription. Subscription, you know, they retain more, they order more, as well as they try new categories. So overall, when I look at the mature cohorts as well as the newer cohorts, the engagement level in the US business continues to be strong, not just across restaurants, but even our new verticals business. And I think your second question again was, you know, just, you know, sort of like incremental margins. Look, I mean, we're not guiding the business towards incremental margins. We're not operating the business towards incremental margin. Our focus has always been on overall profit dollar production. But just to, you know, frame your thinking in terms of, you know, overall tech stack and what the impact there is, right?

Speaker #2: They order more, as well as try new categories. So overall, when I look at the mature cohorts, as well as the newer cohorts, the engagement level in the U.S. business continues to be strong—not just across restaurants, but even in our new verticals business.

Speaker #2: And I think your second question, Ken, was just sort of like incremental margins. Look, I mean, we're not guiding the business towards incremental margins.

Speaker #2: We're not operating the business towards incremental margin. Our focus has always been on overall profit dollar production. But just to frame your thinking in terms of overall tech stack and what the impact there is, right?

Speaker #2: Look, there's a couple of costs in there. One is some redundancy in cost as we try to run both tech stacks in parallel. Majority of that spend will be in 26.

Ravi Inukonda: Look, there's a couple of costs in there. One is some redundancy in cost as we try to run both tech stacks in parallel. Majority of that spend will be in 2026, some will be in 2027, but that will come off. And you should expect that to be a smaller component. But the biggest value driver for us, like we touched on earlier, is gonna be velocity of feature development. You're gonna become more efficient as developers work on the same tech stack across all three platforms, and you should see the impact of that from an underlying cohort perspective, as well as overall growth in the business.

Ravi Inukonda: Look, there's a couple of costs in there. One is some redundancy in cost as we try to run both tech stacks in parallel. Majority of that spend will be in 2026, some will be in 2027, but that will come off. And you should expect that to be a smaller component. But the biggest value driver for us, like we touched on earlier, is gonna be velocity of feature development. You're gonna become more efficient as developers work on the same tech stack across all three platforms, and you should see the impact of that from an underlying cohort perspective, as well as overall growth in the business.

Speaker #2: Some will be in '27, but that'll come off. And you should expect that to be a smaller component. But the biggest value driver for us, like we touched on earlier, is going to be velocity of feature development.

Speaker #2: You're going to become more efficient as developers work on the same tech stack across all three platforms. And you should see the impact of that from an underlying cohort perspective, as well as overall growth in the business.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Ken Gawrelski: Thank you.

Ken Gawrelski: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Bernie McTernan with Needham, your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bernie McTernan with Needham. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bernie McTernan with Needham. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Great. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to follow up on the discussion on the EVs. Do you think the use case for delivery EVs would be broader than robotaxis and mobility?

Bernie McTernan: Great. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to follow up on the discussion on the AVs. Do you think the use case for delivery AVs will be broader than robotaxis and mobility, meaning that at least for the foreseeable future, robotaxis expected only to be in dense cities? Is there a use case for delivery AVs in the suburbs? And then, as we're, you know, asking follow-up questions on the financial guidance, you know, and the press release talked about EBITDA a lot higher in the second half of the year. I would say that's probably typical to normal seasonal trends that we see within the business. Just any additional color you could provide would be helpful. Thank you.

Bernie McTernan: Great. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to follow up on the discussion on the AVs. Do you think the use case for delivery AVs will be broader than robotaxis and mobility, meaning that at least for the foreseeable future, robotaxis expected only to be in dense cities? Is there a use case for delivery AVs in the suburbs? And then, as we're, you know, asking follow-up questions on the financial guidance, you know, and the press release talked about EBITDA a lot higher in the second half of the year. I would say that's probably typical to normal seasonal trends that we see within the business. Just any additional color you could provide would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Meaning that, at least for the foreseeable future, robotaxis are expected only to be in dense cities. Is there a use case for delivery EVs in the suburbs?

Speaker #2: And then as we're asking follow-up questions on the financial guidance, the press release talked about EBITDA a lot higher in the second half of the year.

Speaker #2: I would say that's probably typical to normal seasonal trends that we see within the business. Just any additional color you could provide would be helpful.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey, Bernie. It's Tony. I'll take the first question on EVs. I mean, the short answer is absolutely, yeah. Of course, we think that the delivery vehicles will be able to address both suburbs and city centers.

Tony Xu: ... Yeah. Hey, Bernie, it's Tony. I'll take the first question on AVs. I mean, the short answer is absolutely, yeah. Of course, we think that the delivery vehicles will be able to address both suburbs and city centers. In fact, if you look at actually, you know, Dot, it was constructed in a purposeful way to actually serve many of the suburbs. And, it, you know, that, that's true, and it's form factor. That's true on how we think about integrating it into the autonomous delivery platform in terms of which assignments it ought to receive, or just which assignments it should not receive.

Tony Xu: ... Yeah. Hey, Bernie, it's Tony. I'll take the first question on AVs. I mean, the short answer is absolutely, yeah. Of course, we think that the delivery vehicles will be able to address both suburbs and city centers. In fact, if you look at actually, you know, Dot, it was constructed in a purposeful way to actually serve many of the suburbs. And, it, you know, that, that's true, and it's form factor. That's true on how we think about integrating it into the autonomous delivery platform in terms of which assignments it ought to receive, or just which assignments it should not receive.

Speaker #3: In fact, if you look at actually DOT, it was constructed in a purposeful way to actually serve many of the suburbs. And that's true in its form factor.

Speaker #3: That's true in how we think about integrating it into the autonomous delivery platform, in terms of which assignments it ought to receive versus which assignments it should not receive.

Tony Xu: You know, that's also true for all of our projects, you know, for our drone projects, too, which, you know, cover, I would say, you know, even beyond suburbs, but even more rural regions, where, you know, the distance, the distances traveled are much farther, and you can, you know, go, a lot faster in the air sometimes than you can go on land.

Speaker #3: That's also true for all of our projects for our drone projects too, which cover, I would say, even beyond suburbs, but even more rural regions where the distances traveled are much farther, and you can go a lot faster in the air sometimes than you can go on land.

Tony Xu: You know, that's also true for all of our projects, you know, for our drone projects, too, which, you know, cover, I would say, you know, even beyond suburbs, but even more rural regions, where, you know, the distance, the distances traveled are much farther, and you can, you know, go, a lot faster in the air sometimes than you can go on land.

Speaker #2: Hey, Bernie, on your second question, I mean, look, what I'll say is my expectation, like I said, for the full year has not changed.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Bernie, on your second question, I mean, look, what I'll say is, my expectation, like I said, for the full year, has not changed compared to the last call. I expect the full year margin to be up slightly compared to 25, excluding Roo, and Roo to be about $200 million. You're also right. Look, the shape of the curve for us, for EBITDA, has always been second half is higher than the first half. That's naturally how our business works. It's purely math, right? The volume grows through the year, unit economics grow, and you put both those two together, you'll have more gross profit dollars as you go through the year, which means second half will be higher than first half. We have delivered on that in 2023, 2024, 2025. 2026 is gonna be no different. There are a couple of things which are different.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Bernie, on your second question, I mean, look, what I'll say is, my expectation, like I said, for the full year, has not changed compared to the last call. I expect the full year margin to be up slightly compared to 25, excluding Roo, and Roo to be about $200 million. You're also right. Look, the shape of the curve for us, for EBITDA, has always been second half is higher than the first half. That's naturally how our business works. It's purely math, right? The volume grows through the year, unit economics grow, and you put both those two together, you'll have more gross profit dollars as you go through the year, which means second half will be higher than first half. We have delivered on that in 2023, 2024, 2025. 2026 is gonna be no different. There are a couple of things which are different.

Speaker #2: Compared to the last call, I expect the full year margin to be up slightly compared to 25, excluding Roux and Roux to be about 200 million.

Speaker #2: You're also right. Look, the shape of the curve for us for EBITDA has always been second half is higher than the first half. That's naturally how our business works.

Speaker #2: It's purely math, right? Look, volume grows through the year. Unit economics grow. And you put both those two together, you'll have more gross profit dollars as you go through the year, which means second half will be higher than first half.

Speaker #2: We've delivered on that in '23, '24, '25. '26 is going to be no different. There are a couple of things which are different. One is investment in Roux.

Ravi Inukonda: One is investment in Roo. Some of it is front-loaded. Like I said, it impacts Q1. I would expect Roo EBITDA to increase as you go through the rest of the year. The second one that we're seeing in the business is, when I look at the pace of expansion of profitability for both our new verticals and international business ex Roo, that will increase, or the pace of expansion is higher than in previous years, especially as I expect new verticals to be gross profit positive in the second half, and international ex Roo to be contribution profit positive in the second half. So you put all this together, that's what's giving rise to the shape of the EBITDA curve, where second half is gonna be higher than the first half EBITDA.

Ravi Inukonda: One is investment in Roo. Some of it is front-loaded. Like I said, it impacts Q1. I would expect Roo EBITDA to increase as you go through the rest of the year. The second one that we're seeing in the business is, when I look at the pace of expansion of profitability for both our new verticals and international business ex Roo, that will increase, or the pace of expansion is higher than in previous years, especially as I expect new verticals to be gross profit positive in the second half, and international ex Roo to be contribution profit positive in the second half. So you put all this together, that's what's giving rise to the shape of the EBITDA curve, where second half is gonna be higher than the first half EBITDA.

Speaker #2: Some of it is front-loaded. Like I said, it impacts Q1. I would expect Roux EBITDA to increase as you go through the rest of the year.

Speaker #2: The second one that we're seeing in the business is when I look at the pace of expansion of profitability for both our new verticals and international business ex-Roux, that will increase or the pace of expansion is higher than in previous years.

Speaker #2: Especially as I expect new verticals to be gross profit positive in the second half, and international ex-Roux to be contribution profit positive in the second half.

Speaker #2: So you put all this together, that's what's giving rise to the shape of the EBITDA curve, where the second half is going to be higher than the first half EBITDA.

Speaker #4: Very helpful. Thank you both.

Tony Xu: Very helpful. Thank you both.

Tony Xu: Very helpful. Thank you both.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Boone with Citizens Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Boone with Citizens Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Boone with Citizens Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Thanks so much for taking the questions. Ravi, I wanted to stay on costs and the intensity of investments. If I look at R&D and G&A, it's $211 basis points of GOV. We've talked about kind of that 2% target historically.

Andrew Boone: Thanks so much for taking the questions. Ravi, I wanted to stay on costs and the intensity of investments. If I look at R&D and G&A, it's 211 basis points of GOV. We've talked about kind of that 2% target historically. Should we expect GOV to kind of grow when we just grow into this higher fixed cost? Or how do we think about the fixed cost component of the business on a go-forward basis? And then going to grocery, is there any detail that you can provide us in terms of the graduation of customers into the Sunday shop? Can you talk about just the evolution of customers and whether you're starting to capture larger baskets? Thanks so much.

Andrew Boone: Thanks so much for taking the questions. Ravi, I wanted to stay on costs and the intensity of investments. If I look at R&D and G&A, it's 211 basis points of GOV. We've talked about kind of that 2% target historically. Should we expect GOV to kind of grow when we just grow into this higher fixed cost? Or how do we think about the fixed cost component of the business on a go-forward basis? And then going to grocery, is there any detail that you can provide us in terms of the graduation of customers into the Sunday shop? Can you talk about just the evolution of customers and whether you're starting to capture larger baskets? Thanks so much.

Speaker #5: Should we expect GOV to kind of grow when we just grow into this higher fixed cost, or how do we think about the fixed cost component of the business on a go-forward basis?

Speaker #5: And then, going to grocery, is there any detail that you can provide us in terms of the graduation of customers into the Sunday shop?

Speaker #5: Can you talk about just the evolution of customers and whether you're starting to capture larger baskets? Thanks so much.

Speaker #2: Yeah, I'll take the first one, right? When I look at OPEX in Q4—I think that's probably what you're asking about as well—there's inclusion of Roux.

Ravi Inukonda: Yeah, I do. I'll take the first one, right? When I look at OpEx in Q4, I think that's probably what you're asking about as well. There's inclusion of rules, so you should take that into consideration. When I look at, you know, 2026, I would expect OpEx to be roughly about 2% of GOV that we talked about. Look, we're being very disciplined. We're investing in areas where we're improving the product to ultimately drive both scale as well as profitability. You're seeing that in terms of the overall growth as well as the profit dollar production. Look, I mean, our goal is to continue to generate leverage, right? Like OpEx, I think, overhead cost of doing business, and our goal is to continue to generate leverage on it, just like, you know, any other part of the P&L.

Ravi Inukonda: Yeah, I do. I'll take the first one, right? When I look at OpEx in Q4, I think that's probably what you're asking about as well. There's inclusion of rules, so you should take that into consideration. When I look at, you know, 2026, I would expect OpEx to be roughly about 2% of GOV that we talked about. Look, we're being very disciplined. We're investing in areas where we're improving the product to ultimately drive both scale as well as profitability. You're seeing that in terms of the overall growth as well as the profit dollar production. Look, I mean, our goal is to continue to generate leverage, right? Like OpEx, I think, overhead cost of doing business, and our goal is to continue to generate leverage on it, just like, you know, any other part of the P&L.

Speaker #2: So you should take that into consideration. When I look at 2026, I would expect OPEX to be roughly about 2% of GOV that we talked about.

Speaker #2: Look, we're being very disciplined. We're investing in areas where we're improving the product to ultimately drive both scale as well as profitability. You're seeing that in terms of the overall growth as well as the profit dollar production.

Speaker #2: Look, I mean, our goal is to continue to generate leverage, right? OPEX, I think, offers cost of doing business, and our goal is to continue to generate leverage on it just like any other part of the P&L.

Speaker #3: Andrew, on the second question, with respect to grocery, yes, is the short answer. We are seeing the evolution of customer behavior both now incorporating kind of the middle-of-the-week run, which is kind of how DoorDash started, five years ago, in the grocery category to now the larger baskets that happen on the weekends here in the US and other parts of the world.

Tony Xu: Andrew, on the second question, you know, with respect to grocery, yes, is the short answer. We are seeing the evolution of customer behavior, both now incorporating kind of the middle-of-the-week run, which, you know, is kind of how DoorDash started, you know, five years ago in the grocery category, to now the larger baskets that happen on the weekends, you know, here in the US. In other parts of the world, it has a slightly different behavior, but we do see, you know, both behaviors now, where people use us for both kind of the quick runs, as well as the stock-up use cases.

Tony Xu: Andrew, on the second question, you know, with respect to grocery, yes, is the short answer. We are seeing the evolution of customer behavior, both now incorporating kind of the middle-of-the-week run, which, you know, is kind of how DoorDash started, you know, five years ago in the grocery category, to now the larger baskets that happen on the weekends, you know, here in the US. In other parts of the world, it has a slightly different behavior, but we do see, you know, both behaviors now, where people use us for both kind of the quick runs, as well as the stock-up use cases.

Speaker #3: It has a slightly different behavior, but we do see both behaviors now, where people use us for both the quick runs, as well as the stock-up use cases.

Speaker #3: You see this in fact happening faster and faster with each successive cohort, and you see each existing cohort actually increasing their spend and their overall share of wallet when it comes to grocery with us.

Tony Xu: You see this, in fact, happening faster and faster with each successive cohort, and you see each, you know, existing cohort actually increasing their spend and, you know, their overall share of wallet when it comes to grocery with us.

Tony Xu: You see this, in fact, happening faster and faster with each successive cohort, and you see each, you know, existing cohort actually increasing their spend and, you know, their overall share of wallet when it comes to grocery with us.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Andrew Boone: Thank you.

Andrew Boone: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Lloyd Walmsley with Mizuho. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Lloyd Walmsley with Mizuho. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Lloyd Walmsley with Mizuho. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Lloyd Walmsley: Great. Was just wondering if beyond the Q1 guidance, you can help us with just how to think about a framework for GOV growth for the balance of the year. Appreciate the comments on the EBITDA cadence, but anything you can help us out with on GOV growth?

Speaker #5: Great. I was just wondering if, beyond the first quarter guidance, you can help us with just how to think about a framework for GOV growth for the balance of the year?

Lloyd Walmsley: Great. Was just wondering if beyond the Q1 guidance, you can help us with just how to think about a framework for GOV growth for the balance of the year. Appreciate the comments on the EBITDA cadence, but anything you can help us out with on GOV growth?

Speaker #5: Appreciate the comments on the EBITDA cadence, but is there anything you can help us out with on GOV growth?

Speaker #2: Yeah. Look, I mean, I think a couple of things, right? One, growth in the business continues to be quite strong, and we are seeing that from both existing consumers as well as newer consumers, where MAE growth continues to be strong and order frequency continues to be strong.

Ravi Inukonda: Yeah, look, I mean, I think a couple of things, right? Like, one, growth in the business, you know, continues to be quite strong, and we are seeing that from both existing consumers as well as new consumers, where MAU growth continues to be strong, order frequency continues to be strong. Like I said in, you know, one of the earlier questions, I mean, DashPass has had a record year as well as continues to drive, you know, overall growth. But the way I think about it is, as long as we are continuing to improve the product, the underlying cohorts are responding, as you can see from engagement as well as, you know, sort of retention. And for us, you know, I feel pretty good about the overall growth, not just in Q1, but for the rest of the year as well.

Ravi Inukonda: Yeah, look, I mean, I think a couple of things, right? Like, one, growth in the business, you know, continues to be quite strong, and we are seeing that from both existing consumers as well as new consumers, where MAU growth continues to be strong, order frequency continues to be strong. Like I said in, you know, one of the earlier questions, I mean, DashPass has had a record year as well as continues to drive, you know, overall growth. But the way I think about it is, as long as we are continuing to improve the product, the underlying cohorts are responding, as you can see from engagement as well as, you know, sort of retention. And for us, you know, I feel pretty good about the overall growth, not just in Q1, but for the rest of the year as well.

Speaker #2: Like I said in one of the earlier questions, DashPass has had a record year and continues to drive overall growth.

Speaker #2: For us, the way I think about it is as long as we're continuing to improve the product, the underlying cohorts are responding, as you can see from engagement as well as sort of retention, and for us, I feel pretty good about the overall growth, not just in Q1, but for the rest of the year as well.

Speaker #5: All right. Thank you.

Lloyd Walmsley: All right, thank you.

Lloyd Walmsley: All right, thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Lee Horowitz with Deutsche Bank, your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Lee Horowitz with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Lee Horowitz with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe building on an earlier one, 2026 is obviously a big year for investments in sort of the software and services stack for your merchants.

Lee Horowitz: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe building on an earlier one, 2026, obviously a big year for investments in sort of the software and services stack for your merchants. I guess looking beyond this year, where do you see sort of the natural adjacency, adjacencies that you can build on top of once you've sort of rolled out this, sort of new software service stack for your merchants that will drive more value to both your merchants and the consumers in, in the coming years? Thanks so much.

Tony Xu: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe building on an earlier one, 2026, obviously a big year for investments in sort of the software and services stack for your merchants. I guess looking beyond this year, where do you see sort of the natural adjacency, adjacencies that you can build on top of once you've sort of rolled out this, sort of new software service stack for your merchants that will drive more value to both your merchants and the consumers in, in the coming years? Thanks so much.

Speaker #5: I guess looking beyond this year, where do you see sort of the natural adjacencies that you can build on top of once you've sort of rolled out this sort of new software service stack for your merchants that will drive more value to both your merchants and the consumers in the coming years?

Speaker #5: Thanks so much.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey, Lee. I can start. I mean, the short version of this is, I mean, '26 in many ways is like a setup year of building a new company that's now a global company operating in 40-plus geographies around the world.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Lee. I can start. I mean, the short version of this is, I mean, it 2026 in many ways is like a setup year of building, like, you know, a new company that's, that is now a global company, you know, operating in 40+ geographies around the world, but doing the same thing. We just have like, you know, different countries and different markets to consider, and they're also at different maturities of when we've shipped certain products, right? So, you know, there's a lot of different things. I think a lot of the adjacencies, to your question, you know, can be derived from what we're shipping at DoorDash, right? I mean, so if you think about the different missions we have, one is we wanna bring you everything inside the city.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Lee. I can start. I mean, the short version of this is, I mean, it 2026 in many ways is like a setup year of building, like, you know, a new company that's, that is now a global company, you know, operating in 40+ geographies around the world, but doing the same thing. We just have like, you know, different countries and different markets to consider, and they're also at different maturities of when we've shipped certain products, right? So, you know, there's a lot of different things. I think a lot of the adjacencies, to your question, you know, can be derived from what we're shipping at DoorDash, right? I mean, so if you think about the different missions we have, one is we wanna bring you everything inside the city.

Speaker #3: But doing the same thing. We just have different countries and different markets to consider, and they are also at different maturities of when we've shipped certain products, right?

Speaker #3: So there's a lot of different things. And I think a lot of the adjacencies to your question can be derived from what we're shipping at DoorDash, right?

Speaker #3: I mean, so if you think about the different missions we have, one is we want to bring you everything inside the city. So a lot of the work is going beyond restaurants.

Tony Xu: So a lot of the work is going beyond restaurants. I think we've certainly proven ourselves, you know, capable, you know, at least in the, the categories of grocery, convenience, and some of the early innings of other retail categories. So we've got a lot of work there to do. A big part of that has to do with also building fulfillment services, in which we can, you know, forward deploy inventory on behalf of retailers, so that they can offer same-hour, same-day delivery and be competitive with other, you know, big, big, big companies. We also have to you know, invest in autonomous, you know, technologies, so that, you know, these companies can do it at the highest quality and the lowest cost. So that's one big mission in, in terms of how those adjacencies work.

Tony Xu: So a lot of the work is going beyond restaurants. I think we've certainly proven ourselves, you know, capable, you know, at least in the, the categories of grocery, convenience, and some of the early innings of other retail categories. So we've got a lot of work there to do. A big part of that has to do with also building fulfillment services, in which we can, you know, forward deploy inventory on behalf of retailers, so that they can offer same-hour, same-day delivery and be competitive with other, you know, big, big, big companies. We also have to you know, invest in autonomous, you know, technologies, so that, you know, these companies can do it at the highest quality and the lowest cost. So that's one big mission in, in terms of how those adjacencies work.

Speaker #3: I think we've certainly proven ourselves capable, at least in the categories of grocery, convenience, and some of the early innings of other retail categories.

Speaker #3: So we've got a lot of work there to do. A big part of that has to do with also building fulfillment services in which we can forward deploy inventory on behalf of retailers so that they can offer same-hour, same-day delivery and be competitive with other big companies.

Speaker #3: We also have to invest in autonomous technologies so that these companies can do it at the highest quality and the lowest cost. So that's one big mission in terms of how those adjacencies work.

Speaker #3: A second one is how do we actually build software such that these companies can be omnichannel businesses? We talked a little bit about this on this call where we talked about storefronts, seven rooms, but there's also DoorDash Drive and offering delivery as a service.

Tony Xu: A second one is, how do we actually, you know, build software, such that these companies can be omni-channel businesses? We talked a little bit about this, you know, on this call, where we talked about Storefronts, SevenRooms, but there's also DoorDash Drive and offering, you know, delivery as a service. There's other services that we ought to be building as you think about how a physical business must, you know, effectively adopt in order to become an end-to-end digital business. So we have a lot of merchant services work that we have to do. That's also connected to the third mission of actually driving in-store traffic to merchants, right? We're starting this with restaurants in the form of two products going out, in which we're offering value to customers to discover new restaurants for casual dining.

Tony Xu: A second one is, how do we actually, you know, build software, such that these companies can be omni-channel businesses? We talked a little bit about this, you know, on this call, where we talked about Storefronts, SevenRooms, but there's also DoorDash Drive and offering, you know, delivery as a service. There's other services that we ought to be building as you think about how a physical business must, you know, effectively adopt in order to become an end-to-end digital business. So we have a lot of merchant services work that we have to do. That's also connected to the third mission of actually driving in-store traffic to merchants, right? We're starting this with restaurants in the form of two products going out, in which we're offering value to customers to discover new restaurants for casual dining.

Speaker #3: There are other services that we ought to be building as you think about how a physical business must effectively adapt in order to become an end-to-end digital business.

Speaker #3: So we have a lot of merchant services work that we have to do. That's also connected to the third mission of actually driving in-store traffic to merchants, right?

Speaker #3: We're starting this with restaurants in the form of two products going out, in which we're offering value to customers to discover new restaurants for casual dining.

Speaker #3: And we're also doing it in the form of access, where we're offering reservations to some of the best restaurants that work with SevenRooms.

Tony Xu: And we're also doing it in the form of access, you know, where we're offering reservations to, you know, some of the best restaurants that work with SevenRooms. And so I think there are, you know, there, there's a ton of work there to do as well. So I think those are three big missions that will take us, you know, quite a long journey in terms of building the operating system for local commerce and connecting consumers and merchants in more ways than we currently do. And if we can do this, you know, across every geography in the way that makes the most sense for that geography, I think it's a very exciting future for DoorDash.

Tony Xu: And we're also doing it in the form of access, you know, where we're offering reservations to, you know, some of the best restaurants that work with SevenRooms. And so I think there are, you know, there, there's a ton of work there to do as well. So I think those are three big missions that will take us, you know, quite a long journey in terms of building the operating system for local commerce and connecting consumers and merchants in more ways than we currently do. And if we can do this, you know, across every geography in the way that makes the most sense for that geography, I think it's a very exciting future for DoorDash.

Speaker #3: And so I think there is a ton of work there to do as well. So I think those are three big missions that will take us quite a long journey in terms of building the operating system for local commerce and connecting consumers and merchants in more ways than we currently do.

Speaker #3: And if we can do this across every geography in the way that makes the most sense for that geography, I think it’s a very exciting future for DoorDash.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Patterson with KeyBanc. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Patterson with KeyBanc. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Patterson with KeyBanc. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Great, thank you. Good afternoon. On the outside, it looks like you made some nice progress with symbiosis. I'd love to hear more about how you're evolving the ad product this year and some of the key steps you're taking to capture more grocery and retail advertising dollars.

Justin Patterson: Great. Thank you. Good afternoon. On the ad side, it looks like you made some nice progress with Symbiosys. I'd love to hear more about how you're evolving the ad product this year and some of the key steps you're taking to capture more grocery and retail advertising dollars. And then separately, you know, I know this is not related to replatforming, but we have seen a lot of companies see benefits from agentic coding. Curious how what type of efficiencies, if any, you're seeing from that and how that might fit with the broader replatforming initiative. Thank you.

Justin Patterson: Great. Thank you. Good afternoon. On the ad side, it looks like you made some nice progress with Symbiosys. I'd love to hear more about how you're evolving the ad product this year and some of the key steps you're taking to capture more grocery and retail advertising dollars. And then separately, you know, I know this is not related to replatforming, but we have seen a lot of companies see benefits from agentic coding. Curious how what type of efficiencies, if any, you're seeing from that and how that might fit with the broader replatforming initiative. Thank you.

Speaker #5: And then separately, I know this is not related to replatforming, but we have seen a lot of companies see benefits from agentic coding. Curious what type of efficiencies, if any, you're seeing from that and how that might fit with the broader replatforming initiative.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey, Justin. Just to tell you—yeah, maybe I'll take both. On the question around ads, our ads business is growing really, really fast. And it's probably something I should have added in terms of just when I think about the record year that DoorDash had in 2025—ads was a big part of it, in terms of it's more of a derivative or an output in terms of the growth from our marketplace.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Justin, it's Tony. Yeah, maybe I'll take both. You know, on the question around ads, our ads business is growing really, really fast, and you know, it's probably something I should have added in terms of just... When I think about the record year that DoorDash had in 2025, you know, ads was a big part of it in terms of, you know, it's more of a derivative or an output in terms of the growth from our marketplace, but it really had a strong year. With respect to Symbiosys, I mean, it's again kind of similar to some of the other acquisitions that we've made. It's off to a great start.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Justin, it's Tony. Yeah, maybe I'll take both. You know, on the question around ads, our ads business is growing really, really fast, and you know, it's probably something I should have added in terms of just... When I think about the record year that DoorDash had in 2025, you know, ads was a big part of it in terms of, you know, it's more of a derivative or an output in terms of the growth from our marketplace, but it really had a strong year. With respect to Symbiosys, I mean, it's again kind of similar to some of the other acquisitions that we've made. It's off to a great start.

Speaker #3: But it really had a strong year. With respect to Symbiosis, I mean, again, kind of similar to some of the other acquisitions that we've made, it's off to a great start.

Tony Xu: You know, we see that we've doubled the number of advertisers for Symbiosys, as well as tripled the spend from those advertisers, and so I think that's been, you know, the kind of the performance kind of speaks for itself. And in terms of kind of the roadmap this year, I think there's a couple things. You know, one is just, I think one of the things is that there's a lot of obviously talk in the ecosystem about just, you know, agents and agentic commerce and things like this, but one of the biggest agents that actually we've shipped, you know, last year, was really our smart campaigns product, in which we are helping restaurants buy on their behalf, always ROI-positive ad campaigns, effectively.

Tony Xu: You know, we see that we've doubled the number of advertisers for Symbiosys, as well as tripled the spend from those advertisers, and so I think that's been, you know, the kind of the performance kind of speaks for itself. And in terms of kind of the roadmap this year, I think there's a couple things. You know, one is just, I think one of the things is that there's a lot of obviously talk in the ecosystem about just, you know, agents and agentic commerce and things like this, but one of the biggest agents that actually we've shipped, you know, last year, was really our smart campaigns product, in which we are helping restaurants buy on their behalf, always ROI-positive ad campaigns, effectively.

Speaker #3: We see that we've doubled the number of advertisers for Symbiosis, as well as tripled the spend from those advertisers. And so, I think that performance kind of speaks for itself.

Speaker #3: And in terms of the roadmap this year, I think there's a couple of things. One is just, I think one of the things that—there's a lot of, obviously, talk in the ecosystem about just agents and agentic commerce and things like this.

Speaker #3: But one of the biggest agents that actually we’ve shipped last year was really our Smart Campaigns product, in which we are helping restaurants buy, on their behalf, always ROI-positive ad campaigns effectively.

Speaker #3: And I think that has been one of our fastest-growing products on the restaurant front with respect to grocery and retail. Yep, we're definitely earlier, too, on that maturation.

Tony Xu: I think that has been one of our fastest-growing products, you know, on the restaurant front. With respect to grocery and retail, yep, we're definitely earlier to, you know, on that maturation. I think that just means that there's a lot more opportunity and runway for us in that space, because most of the focus on the ads business thus far has been on the restaurant side. You know, with respect to, kind of coding agents, I think, which is kind of the premise of your second question, this is a topic that is changing literally by the day, maybe by the week. It's been kind of...

Tony Xu: I think that has been one of our fastest-growing products, you know, on the restaurant front. With respect to grocery and retail, yep, we're definitely earlier to, you know, on that maturation. I think that just means that there's a lot more opportunity and runway for us in that space, because most of the focus on the ads business thus far has been on the restaurant side. You know, with respect to, kind of coding agents, I think, which is kind of the premise of your second question, this is a topic that is changing literally by the day, maybe by the week. It's been kind of...

Speaker #3: But I think that just means that there's a lot more opportunity and runway for us in that space, because most of the focus on the ads business thus far has been on the restaurant side.

Speaker #3: With respect to the kind of coding agents, I think—which is kind of the premise of your second question—this is a topic that is changing literally by the day.

Speaker #3: Maybe by the week. It's been kind of astonishing and almost breathtaking how fast coding is changing, or has changed, is changing, and likely will continue to change given the pace and trajectory that we're on.

Tony Xu: It's astonishing and almost breathtaking how fast the coding is changing or has changed, is changing, and likely will continue to change given the pace and trajectory that we're on. I mean, we see 90+% daily active usage, something like that, across all of our engineers when it comes to these coding agents, which certainly has made them productive. The question now is like, what is the right new environment for them to kind of keep up that, you know, sustained productivity gain? And so that's, you know, I think the world that we and many others are trying to figure out.

Tony Xu: It's astonishing and almost breathtaking how fast the coding is changing or has changed, is changing, and likely will continue to change given the pace and trajectory that we're on. I mean, we see 90+% daily active usage, something like that, across all of our engineers when it comes to these coding agents, which certainly has made them productive. The question now is like, what is the right new environment for them to kind of keep up that, you know, sustained productivity gain? And so that's, you know, I think the world that we and many others are trying to figure out.

Speaker #3: I mean, we see 90-plus percent daily active usage—something like that—across all of our engineers. When it comes to these coding agents, which certainly have made them productive, the question now is, what is the right new environment for them to kind of keep up that?

Speaker #3: Sustained productivity gain, and so that's, I think, the role that we and many others are trying to figure out.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Post with BofA. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Post with BofA. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Justin Post with BofA. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Great, thanks. In a release, you talked about unit economics of grocery retail going positive in the second half. What's enabling that? Is that scale, or are you seeing new efficiencies on that front?

Justin Post: Great, thanks. In the release, you talked about unit economics of grocery retail going positive in the second half. What's enabling that? Is that scale, or are you seeing new efficiencies on that front? And then thinking long term, how do you think about grocery retail bottom line profitability relative to US restaurant? Thank you.

Justin Post: Great, thanks. In the release, you talked about unit economics of grocery retail going positive in the second half. What's enabling that? Is that scale, or are you seeing new efficiencies on that front? And then thinking long term, how do you think about grocery retail bottom line profitability relative to US restaurant? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And then, thinking long-term, how do you think about grocery retail bottom-line profitability relative to U.S. restaurants? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Hey, Justin. I touched on this earlier in the call, right? Look, I mean, overall, new verticals continues to be doing really well. The profitability side, we've made really good improvements on the unit economics.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Justin, I touched on this, you know, earlier in the call, right? Like, look, I mean, overall, new verticals continues to be doing really well. You know, the profitability side, we've made really good improvements on the unit economics. To me, there's nothing step function or, you know, one big thing that we have to go solve, is continued execution across improving logistics efficiency, improving the quality of the product. We talked about the fact that we're seeing basket sizes being bigger, both for existing as well as mature cohorts. So just continued execution, trying to find, you know, pockets of efficiency up and down the P&L, improve the product, which will ultimately get us to being gross profit positive in the second half of the year.

Ravi Inukonda: Hey, Justin, I touched on this, you know, earlier in the call, right? Like, look, I mean, overall, new verticals continues to be doing really well. You know, the profitability side, we've made really good improvements on the unit economics. To me, there's nothing step function or, you know, one big thing that we have to go solve, is continued execution across improving logistics efficiency, improving the quality of the product. We talked about the fact that we're seeing basket sizes being bigger, both for existing as well as mature cohorts. So just continued execution, trying to find, you know, pockets of efficiency up and down the P&L, improve the product, which will ultimately get us to being gross profit positive in the second half of the year.

Speaker #4: To me, there's nothing step function or one big thing that you have to go solve. It's continued execution across improving logistics efficiency, improving the quality of the product.

Speaker #4: We talked about the fact that we're seeing basket sizes being bigger, both for existing as well as mature cohorts. So, just continued execution, trying to find pockets of efficiency up and down the P&L.

Speaker #4: Improve the product, which will ultimately get us to being gross profit positive in the second half of the year. Look, I mean, longer-term focus continues to be how do we get 30% of our mouths that order from categories outside of restaurants to be closer to 100%?

Ravi Inukonda: Look, I mean, longer-term focus continues to be, how do we get 30% of our MAUs that order from categories, you know, outside of restaurants to be closer to 100%? And if we're able to work on the product, if we make the quality of the product better, I think this is gonna be a large business, which will, you know, produce, you know, strong free cash flow for us over a long period of time.

Ravi Inukonda: Look, I mean, longer-term focus continues to be, how do we get 30% of our MAUs that order from categories, you know, outside of restaurants to be closer to 100%? And if we're able to work on the product, if we make the quality of the product better, I think this is gonna be a large business, which will, you know, produce, you know, strong free cash flow for us over a long period of time.

Speaker #4: And if you're able to work on the product, if you make the quality of the product better, I think this is going to be a large business, which will produce strong free cash flow for us over a long period of time.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Justin Post: Thank you.

Justin Post: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Mahaney with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

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Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Mahaney with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Thanks. I was just going to ask one question on Deliveroo. You talk about how you accelerated year-over-year growth and total orders for Deliveroo in the December quarter.

Mark Mahaney: Thanks. I was just gonna ask one question on Deliveroo. You talk about how you accelerated year-over-year growth and total orders for Deliveroo in the December quarter. That's faster than I would have expected. Just explain how you were able to do that, and just, are there a lot of other things you see that make you think that you can continue to accelerate those orders? Thank you very much.

Mark Mahaney: Thanks. I was just gonna ask one question on Deliveroo. You talk about how you accelerated year-over-year growth and total orders for Deliveroo in the December quarter. That's faster than I would have expected. Just explain how you were able to do that, and just, are there a lot of other things you see that make you think that you can continue to accelerate those orders? Thank you very much.

Speaker #6: That's faster than I would have expected. Was that just to explain how you were able to do that, and are there a lot of other things you see that make you think that you can continue to accelerate those orders?

Speaker #6: Thank you very much.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey, Mark. It's Tony. Look, the short answer is we just shipped improvements to the product. And there was no one thing. And what I've learned about a lot of these businesses is it sounds really easy to bring you a burrito on time every time in the condition that you'd expect.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Mark, it's Tony. Look, the short answer is we just shipped improvements to the product. And there was no, like, one thing and, you know, what I've learned about, you know, a lot of these businesses is, it sounds really easy to bring you a burrito on time, every time in the condition that you'd expect. It's actually another much more difficult thing to do it in practice. And it's just, you know, shipping a new thing every time we see a problem. And I think one of the, you know, great things was just how easy the partnership has been with the Deliveroo team. I mean, I really commend, you know, our teams working together really well, and in just, again, shipping, executing to deliver against, you know, increasing customer expectations. We're not done.

Tony Xu: Yeah. Hey, Mark, it's Tony. Look, the short answer is we just shipped improvements to the product. And there was no, like, one thing and, you know, what I've learned about, you know, a lot of these businesses is, it sounds really easy to bring you a burrito on time, every time in the condition that you'd expect. It's actually another much more difficult thing to do it in practice. And it's just, you know, shipping a new thing every time we see a problem. And I think one of the, you know, great things was just how easy the partnership has been with the Deliveroo team. I mean, I really commend, you know, our teams working together really well, and in just, again, shipping, executing to deliver against, you know, increasing customer expectations. We're not done.

Speaker #3: It's actually another, much more difficult thing to do it in practice. And it's just shipping a new thing every time we see a problem.

Speaker #3: And I think one of the great things was just how easy the partnership has been with the Deliveroo team. I mean, I really commend our teams working together really well.

Speaker #3: And just again, shipping, executing to deliver against increasing customer expectations. We’re not done. We have a ton of work to do. Yes, we had a great kind of start, and I'm really proud of the team.

Tony Xu: We have, like, a ton of work to do. Yes, we had a great kind of start, and I'm really proud of the team. On the flip side, I also see like a ton of opportunity where we have to ship even more things. And so, so most of it was like just shipping things that we know are broken, to also adding things that we've seen work in other parts of our business. We just see a lot more of those opportunities in front of us.

Tony Xu: We have, like, a ton of work to do. Yes, we had a great kind of start, and I'm really proud of the team. On the flip side, I also see like a ton of opportunity where we have to ship even more things. And so, so most of it was like just shipping things that we know are broken, to also adding things that we've seen work in other parts of our business. We just see a lot more of those opportunities in front of us.

Speaker #3: On the flip side, I also see a ton of opportunity where we have to ship even more things. And so most of it was just shipping things that we know are broken, to also adding things that we've seen work in other parts of our business.

Speaker #3: We just see a lot more of those opportunities in front of us.

Speaker #6: Okay. Thank you, Tony.

Mark Mahaney: Okay. Thank you, Tony.

Mark Mahaney: Okay. Thank you, Tony.

Speaker #1: Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's Q&A due to the time. And this also concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

Operator: Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's Q&A due to the time, and this also concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.

Operator: Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's Q&A due to the time, and this also concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.

Q4 2025 DoorDash Inc Earnings Call

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Q4 2025 DoorDash Inc Earnings Call

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Wednesday, February 18th, 2026 at 10:00 PM

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