Q4 2025 Bolsa Mexicana de Valores SAB de CV Earnings Call

February 11, 2026

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Ramón Güémez Sarre: Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Bolsa Mexicana de Valores Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Before proceeding, I would like to provide a brief safe harbor statement. This presentation contains forward-looking statements and information related to Bolsa that are based on the analysis and expectations of its management, as well as assumptions made and information currently available at Bolsa.

Speaker #3: Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Bolsa Mexicana de Valores fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Before proceeding, I would like to provide a brief safe-harbor statement.

Speaker #3: This presentation contains forward-looking statements and information related to Bolsa that are based on the analysis and expectations of its management. As well as assumptions made and information currently available at Bolsa.

Speaker #3: Such statements reflect the current views of Bolsa related to future events and are subject to risk and uncertainties. Many factors could cause the current results, performance, or achievements to be somewhat different from any future results or performance that may be expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Such statements reflect the current views of Bolsa related to future events and are subject to risk and uncertainties. Many factors could cause the current results, performance, or achievements to be somewhat different from any future results or performance that may be expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements, including, among others, changes in general economic, political, governmental, and business conditions, both on a global scale and in the individual countries in which Bolsa does business, such as changes in monetary policies, inflation rates, prices, business strategy, and various other factors. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary considerably from those described herein as anticipated, estimated, expected, or targeted. Bolsa does not intend and does not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #3: Including, among others, changes in general economic, political, governmental, and business conditions, both in a global scale and in the individual countries in which Bolsa does business.

Speaker #3: Such as changes in monetary policies, inflation rates, prices, business strategy, and various other factors. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary considerably from those described herein as anticipated, estimated, expected, or targeted.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary considerably from those described herein as anticipated, estimated, expected, or targeted. Bolsa does not intend and does not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #3: Bolsa does not intend and does not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. This call is intended for the financial community only, and the floor will be open at the end to address any questions you may have.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: This call is intended for the financial community only, and the floor will be open at the end to address any questions you may have. Joining us for today's call are Jorge Alegría, CEO; Claudio Vivian, Chief Information Officer; Gabriel Rodríguez, CFI Cap CEO; Alfredo Guillén, Managing Director of Equity Markets; José Miguel Díaz, Managing Director of Derivatives Markets; Luis Onés Ramón, Chief Commercial Officer; Hannah Rivas, FP&A Director and IR Director; and myself, Ramón Güémez, CFO. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Jorge Alegría. Thank you, Ramón, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday evening, we released our earnings results, including a detailed review of our Q4 2025 performance. The press release and slide deck are available on bmv.com.mx in the investor relations section. Before turning to our ongoing initiatives, I'd like to briefly frame where we are headed as a group.

Speaker #3: Joining us for today's call are Jorge Alegria, Chief CEO; Claudio Vivian, Chief Information Officer; Gabriel Rodriguez, DeFiCap CEO; Alfredo Guillén, Managing Director of Equity Markets; José Miguel de Dios, Managing Director of Derivatives Markets; Luis Enner Ramón, Chief Commercial Officer; Hannah Rivas, SPNA Director; and SPNA and IR Director; and myself, Ramon Guemes, CFO.

Speaker #3: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Jorge

Speaker #3: Alegria. Thank you, Ramon, and

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you, Ramón, and good morning, everyone. Yesterday evening, we released our earnings results, including a detailed review of our Q4 2025 performance. The press release and slide deck are available on bmv.com.mx in the investor relations section. Before turning to our ongoing initiatives, I'd like to briefly frame where we are headed as a group.

Speaker #4: Good morning, everyone. Yesterday evening, we released our earnings results, including a detailed review of our fourth quarter 2025 performance. The press release and slide deck are available on BNB.com.mx and in the Investor Relations section.

Speaker #4: Before turning to our ongoing initiatives, I'd like to briefly frame where we are headed as a group. Our focus is clear: positioning the company as a market leader through innovation, supported by advanced technology and a stronger infrastructure that enables expansion, access to new markets, and long-term value creation.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Our focus is clear: positioning the company as a market leader through innovation supported by advanced technology and a stronger infrastructure that enables expansion, access to new markets, and long-term value creation. We remain committed to disciplined capital allocation that supports our strategy while maintaining shareholder returns. As mentioned, communicated since 2024, our strategic plan contemplates higher investment levels to support growth initiatives. Accordingly, in 2025, we invested over MXN 250 million to maintain the competitiveness of our core systems and advance to our Nasdaq platforms, making the start of a multi-year investment cycle with CAPEX declining from 2027 onward. In 2026, we are planning an additional investment of approximately MXN 500 million supporting a data-driven business, the expansion of our debt CCP, enhanced surveillance, cybersecurity, cloud migration, and stronger continuity and recovery plans.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Our focus is clear: positioning the company as a market leader through innovation supported by advanced technology and a stronger infrastructure that enables expansion, access to new markets, and long-term value creation. We remain committed to disciplined capital allocation that supports our strategy while maintaining shareholder returns. As mentioned, communicated since 2024, our strategic plan contemplates higher investment levels to support growth initiatives.

Speaker #4: We remain committed to disciplined capital allocation that supports our strategy while maintaining shareholder returns. As mentioned and communicated since 2024, our strategic plan contemplates a higher investment level to support growth initiatives.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Accordingly, in 2025, we invested over MXN 250 million to maintain the competitiveness of our core systems and advance to our Nasdaq platforms, making the start of a multi-year investment cycle with CAPEX declining from 2027 onward. In 2026, we are planning an additional investment of approximately MXN 500 million supporting a data-driven business, the expansion of our debt CCP, enhanced surveillance, cybersecurity, cloud migration, and stronger continuity and recovery plans.

Speaker #4: Accordingly, in 2025, we invested over $250 million to maintain the competitiveness of our core systems, and advance to our Nasdaq platforms. Making the start of a multi-year investment cycle with CapEx declining, from 2027 onward.

Speaker #4: In 2026, we are planning an additional investment of approximately $500 million supporting a data-driven business, the expansion of our debt CCP, enhanced surveillance, cybersecurity, cloud migration, and stronger continuity and recovery plans.

Speaker #4: Initial delivery is expected with the completion of the derivatives platform under the Nasdaq Eclipse solution, followed by the repo CCP, both these same year towards 4Q26.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Initial deliveries are expected with the completion of the derivatives platform under the Nasdaq Eqlipse solution, followed by the repo CCP, both this same year towards Q4 2026. While executing a significant investment program, we continue to balance this investment program with our shareholder returns. So we are maintaining a dividend of MXN 2.05 per share and a buyback program of at least MXN 160 million, implying a distribution of 81% of 2025 net income, with flexibility to complement this objective through an extraordinary dividend toward year-end if required. In 2026, our focus will be on the execution of our initiatives, laying the groundwork for revenue-generating initiatives that we are expecting to see generating revenues and contributing from 2027 onward. Let us begin also with a brief overview of the quarter's most relevant initiatives. We continue advancing on our new bond services for our CCP.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Initial deliveries are expected with the completion of the derivatives platform under the Nasdaq Eqlipse solution, followed by the repo CCP, both this same year towards Q4 2026. While executing a significant investment program, we continue to balance this investment program with our shareholder returns. So we are maintaining a dividend of MXN 2.05 per share and a buyback program of at least MXN 160 million, implying a distribution of 81% of 2025 net income, with flexibility to complement this objective through an extraordinary dividend toward year-end if required.

Speaker #4: While executing a significant investment program, we continue to balance these investment programs with our shareholder returns. So we are maintaining a dividend of 2.05 per share and a buyback program of at least $160 million implying a distribution of 81% of 2025 net income.

Speaker #4: With flexibility to complement these objectives, through an extraordinary dividend toward year-end if required. In 2026, our focus will be on the execution of our initiatives.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: In 2026, our focus will be on the execution of our initiatives, laying the groundwork for revenue-generating initiatives that we are expecting to see generating revenues and contributing from 2027 onward. Let us begin also with a brief overview of the quarter's most relevant initiatives. We continue advancing on our new bond services for our CCP.

Speaker #4: Laying the groundwork for revenue-generating initiatives that we're expecting to see generating revenues and contributing from 2027 onward. Let us begin also with a brief overview of the quarter's most relevant initiatives.

Speaker #4: We continue advancing on our new bond services for our CCP. November 2025 marked a significant milestone for the Mexican market, with the launch of the first central counterparty for fixed income bonds.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: November 2025 marked a significant milestone for the Mexican market with the launch of the first central counterparty for fixed income bonds. The first live transactions, cleared by 5 banks through 2 interdealer brokers, confirmed the successful launch of the CCP. While participation is not mandatory and adoption is expected to be gradual, its introduction lays the foundation for the debt markets transition from a traditionally voice-based environment to a fully electronically centrally cleared marketplace. Experience from other markets shows the impact of combining centralized clearing and electronic trading. Mexican equities, as an example, experienced a nearly 20-fold increase in activity over 2 decades, while US treasury volumes expanded by roughly 10-fold after adoption. These examples show how CCPs and electronic trading support growth across asset classes, and in this context, the Mexican bond market is a pivotal point.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: November 2025 marked a significant milestone for the Mexican market with the launch of the first central counterparty for fixed income bonds. The first live transactions, cleared by 5 banks through 2 interdealer brokers, confirmed the successful launch of the CCP. While participation is not mandatory and adoption is expected to be gradual, its introduction lays the foundation for the debt markets transition from a traditionally voice-based environment to a fully electronically centrally cleared marketplace.

Speaker #4: The first live transactions cleared by five banks through two interdealer brokers, confirmed the successful launch of the CCP. Wise participation is not mandatory, and adoption is expected to be gradual, its introduction lays the foundation for the debt market transition from a traditionally voice-based environment to a fully electronically centrally clear marketplace.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Experience from other markets shows the impact of combining centralized clearing and electronic trading. Mexican equities, as an example, experienced a nearly 20-fold increase in activity over 2 decades, while US treasury volumes expanded by roughly 10-fold after adoption. These examples show how CCPs and electronic trading support growth across asset classes, and in this context, the Mexican bond market is a pivotal point.

Speaker #4: Experience from other markets shows the impact of combining centralized clearing and electronic trading. Mexican equities is an example. Experienced a nearly 20-fold increase in activity over two decades, while US Treasury volumes expanded by roughly 10-fold after adoption.

Speaker #4: This example shows how CCP is done electronic trading, support growth across asset classes, and in this context, the Mexican bond market is a pivotal point.

Speaker #4: With an average trading daily volume of around $6 billion, the introduction of a CCP and the shift toward electronic trading are setting the stage for higher volumes more access and greater liquidity.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: With an average trading daily volume of around $6 billion, the introduction of a CCP and the shift toward electronic trading are setting the stage for higher volumes, more access, and greater liquidity. Consistent with our roadmap, the initiative is to advance for a second phase, the repo service on our CCP. This is expected to be completed by the end of 2026. Unlike the initial phase, adoption is expected to be faster given strong market demand and benefits. With approximately $100 billion daily trading volumes, the repo segment materially expands the scope of centralized clearing and sets the stage of a third phase extending to securities lending. On our data agenda, we are defining a unified data infrastructure strategy. This includes designing the target architecture to support the new trading and clearing platforms for derivatives, along with data requirements across the rest of the business.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: With an average trading daily volume of around $6 billion, the introduction of a CCP and the shift toward electronic trading are setting the stage for higher volumes, more access, and greater liquidity. Consistent with our roadmap, the initiative is to advance for a second phase, the repo service on our CCP.

Speaker #4: Consisting with our roadmap, the initiative is to advance for a second phase, the repo service on our CCP. This is expected to be completed by the end of 2026, and unlike the initial phase, adoption is expected to be faster given strong market demand and benefits.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: This is expected to be completed by the end of 2026. Unlike the initial phase, adoption is expected to be faster given strong market demand and benefits. With approximately $100 billion daily trading volumes, the repo segment materially expands the scope of centralized clearing and sets the stage of a third phase extending to securities lending. On our data agenda, we are defining a unified data infrastructure strategy. This includes designing the target architecture to support the new trading and clearing platforms for derivatives, along with data requirements across the rest of the business.

Speaker #4: With approximately $100 billion daily trading volumes, the repo segment materially expands the scope of centralized clearing and sets the stage of a third phase, extending to securities lending.

Speaker #4: On our data agenda, we are defining a unified data infrastructure strategy. This includes designing the target architecture to support the new trading and clearing platforms for derivatives, along with data requirements across the rest of the business.

Speaker #4: A core element is the transition from an on-premise setup to a cloud-based model, which will support advanced analytics, customizable reporting, data-driven products, and coordination with Mexicana Signa.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: A core element is the transition from an on-premise setup to a cloud-based model, which will support advanced analytics, customizable reporting, data-driven products, and coordination with MexDer and Asigna. New data product releases are planned for late 2026, aligned with the launch of the new derivatives platform. I would also like to briefly update you on our efforts and progress in market data. As part of a long-term strategy initiated several years ago, we have focused on increasing the international visibility of the Mexican markets by reducing access barriers and bringing market information closer to global participants. Complementing this solution, during 2025, we further evolved our access model through the deployment of the Global Access Network product, a fully virtualized colocation solution now operating in production, and under this model, Bolsa provides the core access and connectivity infrastructure, enabling a scalable framework for direct market access.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: A core element is the transition from an on-premise setup to a cloud-based model, which will support advanced analytics, customizable reporting, data-driven products, and coordination with MexDer and Asigna. New data product releases are planned for late 2026, aligned with the launch of the new derivatives platform. I would also like to briefly update you on our efforts and progress in market data.

Speaker #4: New data product releases are planned for late 2026, aligned with the launch of the new derivatives platform. I would also like to briefly update you on our efforts and progress in market data.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: As part of a long-term strategy initiated several years ago, we have focused on increasing the international visibility of the Mexican markets by reducing access barriers and bringing market information closer to global participants. Complementing this solution, during 2025, we further evolved our access model through the deployment of the Global Access Network product, a fully virtualized colocation solution now operating in production, and under this model, Bolsa provides the core access and connectivity infrastructure, enabling a scalable framework for direct market access.

Speaker #4: As part of a long-term strategy, initiated several years ago, we have focused on increasing the international visibility of the Mexican markets by reducing access barriers and bringing market information closer to global participants.

Speaker #4: Complementing this solution, during 2025, we further developed our access model through the deployment of the global access network product. A fully virtualized colocation solution now operating in production and under this model, Bolsa provides the core access and connectivity infrastructure enabling scalable framework for direct market access.

Speaker #4: This architecture enables more competitive pricing, faster time to market. As adoption gains traction, the existing client pipeline supports a potential 5% uplift in market data revenues for 2026.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: This architecture enables more competitive pricing, faster time to market. As adoption gains traction, the existing client pipeline supports a potential 5% uplift in market data revenues for 2026. Turning to derivatives, we see growth potential for MexDer given that a substantial share of activity in the derivatives market remains in the OTC. This creates an opportunity to keep migrating volume towards listed and cleared products over time. To address this, we are focusing on three levers: international exposure, retail product expansion such as single stock derivatives and SIC options, and also supporting institutional participation through the Asigna liquidity alternative framework. At the same time, we are advancing the migration of our transactional services to the Nasdaq Eqlipse trading solution, which essentially and this is essential to provide the scalability required for the long-term growth in the listed derivatives marketplace.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: This architecture enables more competitive pricing, faster time to market. As adoption gains traction, the existing client pipeline supports a potential 5% uplift in market data revenues for 2026. Turning to derivatives, we see growth potential for MexDer given that a substantial share of activity in the derivatives market remains in the OTC. This creates an opportunity to keep migrating volume towards listed and cleared products over time.

Speaker #4: Turning to derivatives, we see growth potential for Mexder given that substantial share of activity in the derivatives market remains in the OTC. This creates an opportunity to keep migrating volume toward listed and clear products over time.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: To address this, we are focusing on three levers: international exposure, retail product expansion such as single stock derivatives and SIC options, and also supporting institutional participation through the Asigna liquidity alternative framework. At the same time, we are advancing the migration of our transactional services to the Nasdaq Eqlipse trading solution, which essentially and this is essential to provide the scalability required for the long-term growth in the listed derivatives marketplace.

Speaker #4: To address this, we are focusing on three levers: international exposure, retail product expansion, such as single-stock derivatives, and SEC options; and also supporting institutional participation through the Asignas liquidity alternative framework.

Speaker #4: At the same time, we are advancing the migration of our transactional services to the Nasdaq Eclipse trading solution, which essentially—and this is essential—to provide the scalability required for the long-term growth in the listed derivatives marketplace.

Speaker #4: As mentioned regarding the liquidity alternatives initiative for Asignas, progress is seen still being made gradual but continuous. We have three major banks advancing in their implementation.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: As mentioned regarding the liquidity alternatives initiative for Asigna, progress is still being made, gradual, but continuous. We have three major banks advancing in their implementation, while regulators are working on aligning the legal framework. From Asigna side, the infrastructure is already in place, and the initiative is expected to materialize in the coming months. In parallel, equity listing activity resumed with the IPOs announced in the prior quarter materializing through Essentia, Aeroméxico, and FibraNext, the follow-on transactions. This reflected an improvement in market conditions after several years of inactivity, with momentum continuing beyond the quarter. Currently, there are four companies actively exploring potential IPOs on a confidential basis. In parallel, the IPC Index has reached historical highs, and equity valuations have improved. So together, all these factors reflect strengthening equity market conditions and growing interest in public markets as a source of capital.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: As mentioned regarding the liquidity alternatives initiative for Asigna, progress is still being made, gradual, but continuous. We have three major banks advancing in their implementation, while regulators are working on aligning the legal framework. From Asigna side, the infrastructure is already in place, and the initiative is expected to materialize in the coming months. In parallel, equity listing activity resumed with the IPOs announced in the prior quarter materializing through Essentia, Aeroméxico, and FibraNext, the follow-on transactions.

Speaker #4: While regulators are working on aligning the legal framework, from Asignas side, the infrastructure is already in place, and the initiative is expected to materialize in the coming months.

Speaker #4: In parallel, equity listing activity resumed with the IPOs announced in the prior quarter materializing through Ascensia, Aero México, and FibraNext, the follow-on transactions. This reflected an improvement in market conditions after several years of inactivity, with momentum continuing beyond the quarter.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: This reflected an improvement in market conditions after several years of inactivity, with momentum continuing beyond the quarter. Currently, there are four companies actively exploring potential IPOs on a confidential basis. In parallel, the IPC Index has reached historical highs, and equity valuations have improved. So together, all these factors reflect strengthening equity market conditions and growing interest in public markets as a source of capital.

Speaker #4: Currently, there are four companies actively exploring potential IPOs on a confidential basis. In parallel, the IPC index has reached historical highs and equity valuations have improved.

Speaker #4: So together, all these factors reflect a strengthening equity market conditions and growing interest in public markets as a source of capitals. Beyond the recovery in equity listings, market activity is also strengthening across other asset classes with record levels in 2025.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Beyond the recovery in equity listings, market activity is also strengthening across other asset classes with record levels in 2025. As total financing reached MXN 755 billion, a 24% increase compared to 2024. Demand for debt listings is increasing across short- and long-term maturities, supported by a pipeline of approximately more than MXN 80 billion for the first two months of the year, with high-profile transactions that increase visibility. Most of these issues are expected to be listed on BMV. Finally, structured products are also showing strengthening activity with higher demand for listed warrants driven by private banking and wealth management participation. Following on, the simplified listing initiative remains an ongoing long-term initiative. The same confidential company is still in process alongside our ongoing efforts to promote the regime and build market awareness. This is a constant effort with adoption expected to be gradual.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Beyond the recovery in equity listings, market activity is also strengthening across other asset classes with record levels in 2025. As total financing reached MXN 755 billion, a 24% increase compared to 2024. Demand for debt listings is increasing across short- and long-term maturities, supported by a pipeline of approximately more than MXN 80 billion for the first two months of the year, with high-profile transactions that increase visibility.

Speaker #4: As Total Financing reached MXN 750 billion pesos. 24% increase compared to 2024. Demand for debt listings is increasing across short and long-term maturities, supported by a pipeline of approximately 80 billion pesos for the first two months of the year.

Speaker #4: With high-profile transactions that increase visibility. Most of these issues are expected to be listed on BNB. Finally, structured products are also showing strengthening activity with higher demand for listed warrants driven by private banking and wealth management participation.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Most of these issues are expected to be listed on BMV. Finally, structured products are also showing strengthening activity with higher demand for listed warrants driven by private banking and wealth management participation. Following on, the simplified listing initiative remains an ongoing long-term initiative. The same confidential company is still in process alongside our ongoing efforts to promote the regime and build market awareness. This is a constant effort with adoption expected to be gradual.

Speaker #4: Following on, the simplified listing initiative remains an ongoing long-term initiative. The same confidential company is still in process, alongside our ongoing efforts to promote the regime and build market awareness.

Speaker #4: This is a constant effort that, with adoption expected to be gradual. Turning to our equity fee schedule, and as noted last quarter, we received the regulatory authorization to adjust our fees.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Turning to our equity fee schedule, and as noted, last quarter, we received the regulatory authorization to adjust our fees. However, implementation remains at our discretion with no requirement regarding timing or application. Currently, we are not planning any changes on our fees. Let me now move to our key financial highlights in the following slides. Please keep in mind that all figures are expressed in Mexican pesos. On slide three and four for the key 2025 financial highlights, Q4 2025 revenues were flat at MXN 1.1 billion, while operating expenses rose 15% due to our accelerated strategic investments. This pressure operating levers driving a 9% EBITDA decline to MXN 608 million and with a 900 basis point margin contraction to 54%. Net income fell 20%, and at the full year level, revenues grew 7% to MXN 4.5 billion.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Turning to our equity fee schedule, and as noted, last quarter, we received the regulatory authorization to adjust our fees. However, implementation remains at our discretion with no requirement regarding timing or application. Currently, we are not planning any changes on our fees. Let me now move to our key financial highlights in the following slides. Please keep in mind that all figures are expressed in Mexican pesos.

Speaker #4: However, implementation remains our discretion. With no requirement regarding timing or application. Currently, we are not planning any changes on our fees. Let me now move to our key financial highlights.

Speaker #4: In the following slides. Please keep in mind that all figures are expressed in Mexican pesos. On slide three and four, for the key 2025 financial highlights, Q4 2025 revenues were flat at 1.1 billion pesos.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: On slide three and four for the key 2025 financial highlights, Q4 2025 revenues were flat at MXN 1.1 billion, while operating expenses rose 15% due to our accelerated strategic investments. This pressure operating levers driving a 9% EBITDA decline to MXN 608 million and with a 900 basis point margin contraction to 54%. Net income fell 20%, and at the full year level, revenues grew 7% to MXN 4.5 billion.

Speaker #4: While operating expenses rose 15% due to our accelerated strategic investments. This pressure operating levers driving a 9% ABDA decline to MXN 608 million pesos.

Speaker #4: And with a 900 basis point margin contraction to 54%. Net income fell 20%. And at the full year level, revenues grew 7% to MXN 4.5 billion.

Speaker #4: Operating expenses increased 11%. And ABDA rose 5% to 2.5 billion pesos. Despite investment cycle, margins remain strong at 56% only, 198 basis points below 2024 as expected.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Operating expenses increased 11%, and EBITDA rose 5% to MXN 2.5 billion. Despite the investment cycle, margins remain strong at 56%, only 198 basis points below 2024 as expected. Net income showed resilience, easing 2% year-over-year. Taken together, Q4 reflects the timing of our accelerated and planned investments, not a change in the business structural profitability. The full year results provide the right lens with solid revenue growth, higher EBITDA in absolute terms, and structurally strong margins. Let's turn to the next slide, please. Revenues by business line across both Q4 2025 and the full year. Top line behavior followed with the same pattern as and was driven by revenue mix. Growth consistently came from equity and derivatives trading, MXN 7 million and MXN 4 million, and for equity clearing, MXN 10 million. Information services, MXN 19 million, and capital formation for MXN 8 million.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Operating expenses increased 11%, and EBITDA rose 5% to MXN 2.5 billion. Despite the investment cycle, margins remain strong at 56%, only 198 basis points below 2024 as expected. Net income showed resilience, easing 2% year-over-year. Taken together, Q4 reflects the timing of our accelerated and planned investments, not a change in the business structural profitability. The full year results provide the right lens with solid revenue growth, higher EBITDA in absolute terms, and structurally strong margins.

Speaker #4: Net income showed resilience, easing 2% year over year. Taken together, Q4 reflects the timing of our accelerated and planned investments not a change in the business structural profitability.

Speaker #4: The full year results provide the right lens with solid revenue growth, higher EBDA in absolute terms, and structurally strong margins. Let's turn to the next slide, please.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Let's turn to the next slide, please. Revenues by business line across both Q4 2025 and the full year. Top line behavior followed with the same pattern as and was driven by revenue mix. Growth consistently came from equity and derivatives trading, MXN 7 million and MXN 4 million, and for equity clearing, MXN 10 million. Information services, MXN 19 million, and capital formation for MXN 8 million.

Speaker #4: Revenues by business line across both 4Q 2025 and the full year top line behavior followed with the same pattern as and was driven by revenue mix.

Speaker #4: Growth consistently came from equity and derivatives trading, 7 million and 4 million. And for equity clearing, 10 million. Information services, 19 million and capital formation, and for 8 million pesos.

Speaker #4: Steady growth in central securities depository interval of 10 million. And these gains were partially offset in both periods seeing declines in the derivatives clearing space for 19 million.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Steady growth in central securities depository, in the value of MXN 10 million. These gains were partially offset, in both periods, seeing declines in the derivatives clearing space for MXN 19 million and our OTC trading for MXN 6 million. Top line in both periods reflected a similar mix of strong growth segments and areas of softness, highlighting our model of stability of the business fundamentals. Turning to the next slide on equity trading and clearing activity, we see on Q4 2025 equity trading activity strengthened. Average daily trading value increased 10% versus Q4 2024. This performance was driven mostly by growth across local and global markets. In addition, global markets transaction rose 23%, reflecting higher investor participation. BMV's market share remained stable, ranging between 78% and 80%. In the clearing businesses, revenues increased 19% in Q4 2025, reaching the highest four-quarter level and delivering a strong year-over-year increase.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Steady growth in central securities depository, in the value of MXN 10 million. These gains were partially offset, in both periods, seeing declines in the derivatives clearing space for MXN 19 million and our OTC trading for MXN 6 million. Top line in both periods reflected a similar mix of strong growth segments and areas of softness, highlighting our model of stability of the business fundamentals. Turning to the next slide on equity trading and clearing activity, we see on Q4 2025 equity trading activity strengthened. Average daily trading value increased 10% versus Q4 2024.

Speaker #4: And our OTC trading for $6 million. Top line in both periods reflected a similar mix of strong growth segments and areas of softness, highlighting our model of stability of the business fundamentals.

Speaker #4: Turning to the next slide on equity trading and clearing activity, we see that in Q4 2025, equity trading activity strengthened. Average daily trading value increased 10% versus Q4 2024.

Speaker #4: This performance was driven mostly by growth across local and global markets. In addition, global markets transaction rose 23% reflecting higher investor participation. BNB's market share remained stable, ranging between 78 and 80%.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: This performance was driven mostly by growth across local and global markets. In addition, global markets transaction rose 23%, reflecting higher investor participation. BMV's market share remained stable, ranging between 78% and 80%. In the clearing businesses, revenues increased 19% in Q4 2025, reaching the highest four-quarter level and delivering a strong year-over-year increase.

Speaker #4: In the clearing businesses, revenues increased 19% in Q4 2025, reaching the highest four-quarter level and delivering a strong year-over-year increase. Meanwhile, equity segment revenues rose 10%, reflecting a solid year-over-year recovery and remaining broadly stable compared to the previous quarter.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Meanwhile, equity segment revenues rose 10%, reflecting a solid year-over-year recovery and remaining broadly stable compared to the previous quarter. Let us go on to the next slide to review derivatives. MexDer posted 16% year-over-year revenue growth. However, this increase was offset by a significant decline in the derivatives clearing business, resulting in a 19% increase in quarterly revenues for the derivatives segment. Against this, trading dynamics remain active, particularly in dollar futures, where the average daily notional value increased 68% and open interest grew 1.2 times compared to 2024. Regarding margin deposits in Asigna, year-to-date average balance in 2025 decreased by 15% compared to the prior year. On slide 9, we can see OTC trading results moving to C5 cash. OTC trading revenues declined 4% year-over-year. Both Mexico and Chile experienced an appreciation of their currencies. So, Mexico revenue grew 6% and Chile decreased 8%.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Meanwhile, equity segment revenues rose 10%, reflecting a solid year-over-year recovery and remaining broadly stable compared to the previous quarter. Let us go on to the next slide to review derivatives. MexDer posted 16% year-over-year revenue growth. However, this increase was offset by a significant decline in the derivatives clearing business, resulting in a 19% increase in quarterly revenues for the derivatives segment.

Speaker #4: Let us go on to the next slide to review derivatives. Next, there, posted 16% year-over-year revenue growth. However, this increase was offset by a significant decline in the derivatives clearing business, resulting in a 19% increase in quarterly revenues for the derivative segment.

Speaker #4: Against this, trading dynamics remain active, particularly in dollar futures. Where the average daily notional value increased 68% and open interest grew 1.2 times compared to 2024.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Against this, trading dynamics remain active, particularly in dollar futures, where the average daily notional value increased 68% and open interest grew 1.2 times compared to 2024. Regarding margin deposits in Asigna, year-to-date average balance in 2025 decreased by 15% compared to the prior year. On slide 9, we can see OTC trading results moving to C5 cash. OTC trading revenues declined 4% year-over-year. Both Mexico and Chile experienced an appreciation of their currencies. So, Mexico revenue grew 6% and Chile decreased 8%.

Speaker #4: Regarding margin deposits in Asigna, year-to-date average balance in 2025 decreased by 15% compared to the prior year. On slide nine, we can see OTC trading results.

Speaker #4: Moving to C5. OTC trading revenues declined 4% over year over year. Both Mexico and Chile experienced an appreciation of their currencies, so Mexico revenue grew 6% and Chile decreased 8%.

Speaker #4: The performance in Chile was driven by lower market interest rates combined with volume discounts. On slide 10, we have figures for our capital formation segment, where revenue increased by 6%, mainly driven by a 58% increase in medium- and long-term debt listing activity.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: The performance in Chile was driven by lower market interest rates combined with volume discounts. On slide 10, we have figures for our capital formation segment, where revenue increased by 6%, mainly driven by a 58% increase in medium and long-term debt listing activity. As a result of this record-breaking issuance base, total outstanding long-term listings rose 8% year-over-year, reaching 546 issuers as of December of 2025. While the equity market has shown renewed activity, as previously noted, the debt market continues to strengthen. In 2025, BMV financed MXN 636 billion. This represents an 8% year-over-year increase. This momentum has been further reinforced by the addition of new high-profile participants such as CFE, AMX, and SACI.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: The performance in Chile was driven by lower market interest rates combined with volume discounts. On slide 10, we have figures for our capital formation segment, where revenue increased by 6%, mainly driven by a 58% increase in medium and long-term debt listing activity. As a result of this record-breaking issuance base, total outstanding long-term listings rose 8% year-over-year, reaching 546 issuers as of December of 2025.

Speaker #4: As a result of this record-breaking issuance base, total outstanding long-term listings rose 8% year over year, reaching $546 issuers as of December of 2025.

Speaker #4: While the equity previously noted, the debt market continues to strengthen. In 2025, BNB Finance 636 Mexican pesos billion Mexican pesos. This represents an 8% year-over-year increase.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: While the equity market has shown renewed activity, as previously noted, the debt market continues to strengthen. In 2025, BMV financed MXN 636 billion. This represents an 8% year-over-year increase. This momentum has been further reinforced by the addition of new high-profile participants such as CFE, AMX, and SACI.

Speaker #4: This momentum has been further reinforced by the addition of new high-profile participants such as CFE, AMX, and SACI. Moving to the central securities depository, a slide 11 shows interval revenue increase by 2% driven by more dynamic cross-border activity and higher assets on the custody across both domestic and global markets.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: Moving to the central securities depository, slide 11 shows in the value revenue increase by 10%, driven by more dynamic cross-border activity and higher assets under custody across both domestic and global markets. This is compensated in part by FX. During Q4 2025, total assets under custody reached MXN 45 trillion, representing a 13% increase compared to our Q4 2024. Custody volumes increased across all segments, led by a strong growth on SIC listed ETFs and debt securities. This higher level of activity was also reflected in settlement metrics, with the average daily value settled increase by 4%. Additionally, following the retail tariff adjustment, operations in this segment grew by more than 50%. Let's move to slide 12 for information services. Information services revenue increased 9%, driven primarily by market data, which grew 13% compared with the fourth quarter of 2024 and accounted for 72% of the total revenue.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Moving to the central securities depository, slide 11 shows in the value revenue increase by 10%, driven by more dynamic cross-border activity and higher assets under custody across both domestic and global markets. This is compensated in part by FX. During Q4 2025, total assets under custody reached MXN 45 trillion, representing a 13% increase compared to our Q4 2024. Custody volumes increased across all segments, led by a strong growth on SIC listed ETFs and debt securities.

Speaker #4: This is compensated in part by FX. During 4Q 2025, total assets on the custody reached MXN 45 trillion, representing a 13% increase compared to our 4Q 2024.

Speaker #4: Custody volumes increased across all segments, led by strong growth in SIC-listed ETFs and debt securities. This higher level of activity was also reflected in settlement metrics, with the average daily value settled increasing by 4%.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: This higher level of activity was also reflected in settlement metrics, with the average daily value settled increase by 4%. Additionally, following the retail tariff adjustment, operations in this segment grew by more than 50%. Let's move to slide 12 for information services. Information services revenue increased 9%, driven primarily by market data, which grew 13% compared with the fourth quarter of 2024 and accounted for 72% of the total revenue.

Speaker #4: And additionally, following the recent retail tariff adjustment, operations in this segment grew by more than 50%. Let's move to slide 12 for information services.

Speaker #4: Information services revenue increased 9%. Driven primarily by market data, which grew 13% compared with the fourth quarter of 2024 and accounted for 72% of the total revenue.

Speaker #4: At Valmet, our quarterly revenues remained flat, while FX movements had a negative impact on our results. Let us now take a look at our operating expenses on the slide 13 and 14.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: At Valmer, our quarterly revenues remained flat, while FX movements had a negative impact on our results. Let us now take a look at our operating expenses on slides 13 and 14. In Q4 2025, the 15% increase in expenses reflects activity, investment, and execution phase. As Grupo BMV accelerated strategic initiatives and advanced its modernization agenda, expenses grew across key categories, led by personnel on MXN 23 million, technology MXN 23 million, and depreciation MXN 21 million. The evolution of expenses through 2025 was concentrated in the same key categories, all directly linked to the implementation of the strategic plan. The expansion of teams in priority areas strengthened internal capabilities, while the increase in technology and depreciation reflected sustained investment in infrastructural renewal, particularly in storage and cyber. The expense level reached in the fourth quarter establishes the new cost baseline for 2026, which clearly reflects a phase of strategic execution and modernization.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: At Valmer, our quarterly revenues remained flat, while FX movements had a negative impact on our results. Let us now take a look at our operating expenses on slides 13 and 14. In Q4 2025, the 15% increase in expenses reflects activity, investment, and execution phase. As Grupo BMV accelerated strategic initiatives and advanced its modernization agenda, expenses grew across key categories, led by personnel on MXN 23 million, technology MXN 23 million, and depreciation MXN 21 million.

Speaker #4: Q4 2025, the 15-in-present expenses reflect a clearing investment and execution phase. As a group, BNB accelerated a strategic initiative and advanced its modernization agenda, expenses grew across key categories.

Speaker #4: Led by personal on 23 million, technology 23 million, and depreciation 21 million. The evolution of expenses through 2025 was concentrated in the same key categories.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: The evolution of expenses through 2025 was concentrated in the same key categories, all directly linked to the implementation of the strategic plan. The expansion of teams in priority areas strengthened internal capabilities, while the increase in technology and depreciation reflected sustained investment in infrastructural renewal, particularly in storage and cyber.

Speaker #4: All directly linked to the implementation of the strategic plan. The expansion of teams in priority areas strengthened internal capabilities, while the increase in technology and depreciation reflect sustained investment in infrastructural renewal.

Speaker #4: Particularly in storage and cyber. The expense level reached in the fourth quarter establishes the new cost baseline for 2026, which clearly reflects a phase of strategic execution and modernization.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: The expense level reached in the fourth quarter establishes the new cost baseline for 2026, which clearly reflects a phase of strategic execution and modernization. With this, I would like to thank you for connecting today and listening to my remarks. Here and alongside with my colleagues, we will gladly address any questions you may have. Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: With this, I would like to thank you for connecting today and listening to my remarks. Here and alongside with my colleagues, we will gladly address any questions you may have.

Ramón Güémez Sarre: With this, I would like to thank you for connecting today and listening to my remarks. Here and alongside with my colleagues, we will gladly address any questions you may have. Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad.

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Speaker #2: Morgan.

Speaker #3: Thank you all and good

[Analyst]: Thank you all and good morning. Thank you for the opportunity of asking a question. Maybe if you can explore more a high-level guidance and view regarding the investments in technology, like the OpEx, how much should we see on growth on that line and maybe an update on CapEx. I guess the last message for 2026 was for CapEx to increase some 50%, 50, 75% over 2025. So just checking if it was clear from Mr. Alegría that we should see more investments this year, right? But if you can provide more color, how much just for us to quantify this? So basically, OpEx, CapEx, and maybe if you want to discuss a little bit the margins, what should we expect for EBITDA margin here for the company? Thank you.

Yuri Fernandes: Thank you all and good morning. Thank you for the opportunity of asking a question. Maybe if you can explore more a high-level guidance and view regarding the investments in technology, like the OpEx, how much should we see on growth on that line and maybe an update on CapEx. I guess the last message for 2026 was for CapEx to increase some 50%, 50, 75% over 2025.

Speaker #3: morning. Thanks for the opportunity of asking a question. Maybe if you can explore more a high-level guidance in view regarding the investments in technology, like the OPEX, how much should we see on growth on that line?

Speaker #3: And maybe an update on CAPEX. I guess the last message for 2026 was for CAPEX to increase some 50%, 50, 75% over 2025. So just checking if it was clear from Mr. Alegría that we should see more investments this year, right?

Yuri Fernandes: So just checking if it was clear from Mr. Alegría that we should see more investments this year, right? But if you can provide more color, how much just for us to quantify this? So basically, OpEx, CapEx, and maybe if you want to discuss a little bit the margins, what should we expect for EBITDA margin here for the company? Thank you.

Speaker #3: But if you can provide more color, how much, just for us to quantify this. So basically, OPEX, CAPEX, and maybe if you want to discuss a little bit the margins, what should you expect for EBITDA margin here for the company?

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yes. Yuri, good morning. As you say, we are expecting CAPEX for 2026 to be close to $500 million pesos. It should come down for 2027.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Yes, Juri. Good morning. As you say, we are expecting CAPEX for 2026 to be close to MXN 500 million. It should come down for 2027. We don't have an exact number yet, but it will still be above MXN 300 million for 2027 and then decrease further for 2028. For operating expenses, we're expecting a high single-digit increase for 2026. We're expecting margins to be stable. Maybe revenues are hard to estimate, but I would say it's a stable ±1 for EBITDA margins. That would be our expectations for 2026.

Speaker #4: We don't have a exact number yet, but it will still be above $300 for 2027. And then we decrease further for 2028. For operating expenses, we're expecting a high single-digit increase for 2026.

Speaker #4: We're expecting margins to be stable. Maybe revenues are hard to estimate, but I would say it's stable, plus or minus one. For EBITDA margins, that would be our expectation.

Speaker #4: 2026. No, that's

[Analyst]: No, that's clear on all CAPEX. Just on the margins, if I may, just a clarification. When you say stable or maybe down 1 point, are you referring to the fourth quarter margin of 54% or are you referring to the full year margins around 56%? Just to be clear here. Thank you.

Yuri Fernandes: No, that's clear on all CAPEX. Just on the margins, if I may, just a clarification. When you say stable or maybe down 1 point, are you referring to the fourth quarter margin of 54% or are you referring to the full year margins around 56%? Just to be clear here. Thank you.

Speaker #3: clear. Just on the margins, if I may, just a clarification. When you say stable or maybe down one point, are you referring to the fourth quarter margin of 54, or are you referring to the full year margins around 56?

Speaker #3: Just to be clear here. Thank you.

Speaker #4: I'm referring to the full year margin of 56.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: I'm referring to the full year margin of 56.

Speaker #3: Okay. Super clear. Thank you very much.

[Analyst]: Okay. No, super clear. Thank you very much.

Yuri Fernandes: Okay. No, super clear. Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: No, thank you, Yuri.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: No, thank you, Yuri.

Speaker #2: And our next question comes from Daniela Miranda with Santander.

Operator: Our next question comes from Daniela Miranda with Santander.

Speaker #5: Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just a very quick one on financial income in 2026. I mean, assuming an additional 50 basis points cut in reference rates from current levels, how should we think about financial income next year?

[Company Representative] (Bolsa Mexicana de Valores): Hi. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just a very quick one on financial income in 2026. I mean, assuming additional 50 basis points cut in reference rates from current levels, how should we think about financial income next year? Well, this year. Could you help us frame approximately how sensitive is financial income under that scenario?

Daniela Miranda: Hi. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just a very quick one on financial income in 2026. I mean, assuming additional 50 basis points cut in reference rates from current levels, how should we think about financial income next year? Well, this year. Could you help us frame approximately how sensitive is financial income under that scenario?

Speaker #5: Well, this year. Could you help us frame approximately how sensitive is financial income on that scenario?

Speaker #4: Daniela, we didn't fully understand, but I understand you're asking about financial income. We are expecting less, according to the reduction of interest rates. So that's something that's definitely going to affect us.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Daniela, we didn't fully understand, but I understand you're asking about financial income. We're expecting less according to the reduction of interest rates. So that's something that's definitely going to affect us. And we're also taking steps to reduce the variability on the FX gain/loss. So you should have an impact from the reduced interest rates, and we're working towards less volatility in FX gain and loss.

Speaker #4: And we're also taking steps to reduce the variability on the FX gain loss. So you should have an impact on the reduced interest rates.

Speaker #4: And we're working towards less volatility in FX gain and

Speaker #4: loss. That's

Speaker #5: perfect. Thank you. Thank

[Company Representative] (Bolsa Mexicana de Valores): Perfect. Thank you.

Daniela Miranda: Perfect. Thank you.

Speaker #5: you. Thank

Speaker #4: You. Again, that is star one if you would like to.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you.

Operator: Again, that is star one if you would like to ask a question. We'll go next to Carlos Gomez with HSBC.

Speaker #2: ask a question. And we'll go next to Carlos Gomez with HSBC.

[Analyst]: Hello. Good morning, and thank you for taking the question. Going back to the expenses, you ended up growing them 10.6% this year. Was that more or less than you initially expected? I have a feeling it's a little bit more. On the CAPEX, can you also remind us the average life of the CAPEX that you're introducing and therefore the amortization rates? And should we expect your depreciation charges, which were up 14% this year, to increase significantly in the next couple of years? And finally, can you remind us your sensitivity to exchange rate? Thank you.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez: Hello. Good morning, and thank you for taking the question. Going back to the expenses, you ended up growing them 10.6% this year. Was that more or less than you initially expected? I have a feeling it's a little bit more. On the CAPEX, can you also remind us the average life of the CAPEX that you're introducing and therefore the amortization rates? And should we expect your depreciation charges, which were up 14% this year, to increase significantly in the next couple of years? And finally, can you remind us your sensitivity to exchange rate? Thank you.

Speaker #6: question. Going back to Hello. Good morning. And thank you for taking the the expenses, you ended up growing them 10.6% this year. Was that more or less than you initially expected?

Speaker #6: I had a feeling it's a little bit more. On the CAPEX, can you also remind us the average life of the CAPEX that you're introducing?

Speaker #6: And therefore, the amortization rates? And should we expect your depreciation charges, which were at 14% this year, to increase significantly in the next couple of years?

Speaker #6: And finally, can you remind us your sensitivity to exchange rate? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Carlos, I would say the increase in expenses came in line with our expectations. We had a year ago, we had said that we expected a decrease in margins for this for 2025.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Carlos, I would say the increase in expenses came in line with our expectations. A year ago, we had said that we expected a decrease in margins for 2025. Revenues were higher at the beginning of the year, but expenses came in line where we had expected them. Regarding your second question, average depreciation is done between seven and 10 years. For this technological evolution program that we're calling these new platforms, we're thinking about 10 years. You should start seeing most of the impact in 2028. That's when we'll begin to amortize the full investment. Regarding your third question, our sensitivity to the FX, as a rule of thumb, because it varies depending on market conditions, it's about MXN 50 million per in EBITDA per 1 peso of depreciation. As I said, it can vary.

Speaker #4: Revenues were higher at the beginning of the year, but expenses came in line with where we had expected them. Regarding your second question, average depreciation is done between 7 and 10 years.

Speaker #4: For these technological evolution program that we're calling this new platforms, we're thinking about 10 years. You should start seeing the most of the impact in 2028.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: For this technological evolution program that we're calling these new platforms, we're thinking about 10 years. You should start seeing most of the impact in 2028. That's when we'll begin to amortize the full investment. Regarding your third question, our sensitivity to the FX, as a rule of thumb, because it varies depending on market conditions, it's about MXN 50 million per in EBITDA per 1 peso of depreciation. As I said, it can vary. With the new, it will surely vary with the new expenses that we're acquiring, which are more related to the FX. But as of now, take that rule of thumb.

Speaker #4: That's when we'll begin to amortize the full investment. Our regarding your third question, our sensitivity to the FX, as a rule of thumb, because it varies depending on market conditions, it's about 50 million pesos per in EBITDA per one peso of depreciation.

Speaker #4: As I said, it can vary, and with the new—it will surely vary with the new expense, with the new expenses that were acquired, which are more related to the FX.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: With the new, it will surely vary with the new expenses that we're acquiring, which are more related to the FX. But as of now, take that rule of thumb.

Speaker #4: But as of now, take that rule of

Speaker #4: thumb. Okay.

[Analyst]: Okay. So it hasn't changed. It's still MXN 50 million in EBITDA for the 5% move in the currency?

Carlos Gomez-Lopez: Okay. So it hasn't changed. It's still MXN 50 million in EBITDA for the 5% move in the currency?

Speaker #3: So it hasn't changed. It's still $50 million in EBITDA for the 5% move in the currency. Okay.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Yes.

[Analyst]: Okay. Thank you. And I don't think the queue is too long, so I'm going to throw another question. You are buying the systems from Nasdaq. As you have seen, because of the impact of AI, the market has interpreted that pricing for that type of software is going to decrease. As an acquirer of these products, of cloud services, of software services, have you seen any change in pricing over the last year that you can say is the impact on AI? And do you expect any changes in the coming years? Thank you.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez: Okay. Thank you. And I don't think the queue is too long, so I'm going to throw another question. You are buying the systems from Nasdaq. As you have seen, because of the impact of AI, the market has interpreted that pricing for that type of software is going to decrease. As an acquirer of these products, of cloud services, of software services, have you seen any change in pricing over the last year that you can say is the impact on AI? And do you expect any changes in the coming years? Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you. And I don't think Yes. the queue is too long. So I'm going to throw another question. You are buying the systems from Nasdaq.

Speaker #3: As you have seen, because of the impact of AI, the market has interpreted that pricing for that type of software is going to decrease.

Speaker #3: As an acquirer of these products, of cloud services, of software services, have you seen any change in pricing over the last year that you can say is the impact on AI?

Speaker #3: And do you expect any changes in the coming years? Thank you.

Speaker #4: We haven't seen any changes. We are, let me say, we're still in the process of ending negotiations on some of the services we're acquiring.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: We haven't seen any changes. Let me say, we're still in the process of ending negotiations on some of the services we're acquiring. But we haven't seen any changes and would love to see a decrease in some of them.

Speaker #4: But we haven't seen any changes. And we'd love to see a decrease in some of them.

Speaker #3: Yeah. I would imagine. But you haven't so far.

[Analyst]: I would imagine, but you haven't so far?

Carlos Gomez-Lopez: I would imagine, but you haven't so far?

Speaker #4: Sorry? No,

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Sorry? No, we have not.

Speaker #4: we have not. Okay.

[Analyst]: Okay. All right. Thank you so much.

Carlos Gomez-Lopez: Okay. All right. Thank you so much.

Speaker #3: All right. Thank you so much.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you.

Speaker #2: And our next question will confirm Ernesto Gabalondo with Bank of America.

Operator: Our next question will confirm Ernesto Gabilondo with Bank of America.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Hi. Good morning. Jorge Ramon Hanna, and good morning to all your team. My first question will be a follow-up in terms of FX and interest rates.

[Analyst]: Thank you. Hi, good morning, Jorge, Ramón, Hannah, and good morning to all your team. My first question will be a follow-up in terms of FX and interest rates. Just wondering, what are your expectations for the FX and interest rates for this year? And if you are evaluating any kind of hedge to mitigate the impact. And looking into the first half of this year, it seems it will be a tough comp considering the strong peso appreciation and rates. So just wondering, what are you deciding to do on that? And then my second question is also related, a follow-up in terms of your investment phase and OpEx. So just wondering, for this year, should we expect OpEx growing at a higher pace when compared to revenues? If you can provide if there will be some seasonality in expenses throughout this year.

Ernesto Gabilondo: Thank you. Hi, good morning, Jorge, Ramón, Hannah, and good morning to all your team. My first question will be a follow-up in terms of FX and interest rates. Just wondering, what are your expectations for the FX and interest rates for this year? And if you are evaluating any kind of hedge to mitigate the impact. And looking into the first half of this year, it seems it will be a tough comp considering the strong peso appreciation and rates. So just wondering, what are you deciding to do on that?

Speaker #6: Just wondering, what are your expectations for FX and interest rates for this year? And if you are evaluating any kind of hedge to mitigate the impact—and looking into the first half of this year—it seems it will be a tough comp, considering the strong peso appreciation and rates.

Speaker #6: So, just wondering, what are you deciding to do on that? And then my second question is also related—a follow-up in terms of your investment phase and OPEX.

Ernesto Gabilondo: And then my second question is also related, a follow-up in terms of your investment phase and OpEx. So just wondering, for this year, should we expect OpEx growing at a higher pace when compared to revenues? If you can provide if there will be some seasonality in expenses throughout this year.

Speaker #6: So just wondering, for this year, should we expect OPEX growing at a higher pace when compared to revenues? If you can provide, if there will be some seasonality in expenses throughout this year.

Speaker #6: And also, can you walk us through the timing of the investments this year? And when do you think the revenues will start showing up?

[Analyst]: And also, can you walk us through the timing of the investments this year and when you think the revenues will start showing up? I think will be very helpful. And I also remember you were expecting Indeval to be at the cloud by 2027. So just wondering, how should we expect OpEx? As you were saying, it should be declining in 2027, but maybe not at the lows that could be at 2028. Just wondering if 2027 will continue to have some of the Indeval investments or other investments in 2027. Thank you.

Ernesto Gabilondo: And also, can you walk us through the timing of the investments this year and when you think the revenues will start showing up? I think will be very helpful. And I also remember you were expecting Indeval to be at the cloud by 2027. So just wondering, how should we expect OpEx? As you were saying, it should be declining in 2027, but maybe not at the lows that could be at 2028. Just wondering if 2027 will continue to have some of the Indeval investments or other investments in 2027. Thank you.

Speaker #6: I think we'll be very helpful. And I also remember you were expecting Indaval to be at the cloud by 2027. So just wondering, how should we expect OPEX as you were saying?

Speaker #6: It should be declining in 2027, but maybe not at the lows that could be at 2028. Just wondering if 2027 will continue to have some of the Indaval investments or other investments in 2027.

Speaker #6: Thank

Speaker #6: you.

Speaker #4: Ernesto, good

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Ernesto, good morning. We thought we were going to have to do without the pleasure of your questions. Regarding your first question, FX and interest rates, interest rates are coming down, so we're expecting less financial income there. And FX, we've been working to catch, to reduce our exposure to the FX gain/loss that we have. So we're expecting less financial income and a little less impact from the FX gain/loss. For OpEx, for this year, we're expecting it to be high single digit, somewhat in line with what we're expecting in revenues. So you're asking timing, when we would expect to see if there's going to be seasonality in the expenses. Yeah, there's always some seasonality. Usually, they start slower towards the first half and tend to lean a little more. We try to even them out throughout the year, but there is usually some seasonality.

Speaker #4: morning. We thought we were going to have to do without the pleasure of your questions. Regarding your first question, FX and interest rates, interest rates are coming down.

Speaker #4: So we're expecting less financial income there. And FX, we've been working to catch, to reduce our exposure to the FX gain loss that we have.

Speaker #4: So we're expecting less financial income. And a little less impact from the FX gain loss. For OPEX, for this year, we're expecting it to be high single digits.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: For OpEx, for this year, we're expecting it to be high single digit, somewhat in line with what we're expecting in revenues. So you're asking timing, when we would expect to see if there's going to be seasonality in the expenses. Yeah, there's always some seasonality. Usually, they start slower towards the first half and tend to lean a little more. We try to even them out throughout the year, but there is usually some seasonality.

Speaker #4: Somewhat in line with what we're expecting in revenues. So you're asking timing. When we would expect to see if there's going to be seasonality in the expenses, yeah, there's always some seasonality.

Speaker #4: It's usually they start slower towards the first half and tend to lean a little more. We try to even the mat throughout the year.

Speaker #4: But there is usually some seasonality. We expect to see revenues from our initiatives in 2027, especially with the launching of the repo services in our CCP.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: We expect to see revenues from our initiatives in 2027, especially with the launching of the repo services in our CCP. We're expecting to see some revenues from the bond clearance for this year, but really nothing significant, nothing that moves the needle. So expect them for 2027 with the launching of the repo services. And regarding Indeval in the cloud, yes, we're expecting to have the new platform for Indeval towards the end of 2027. So it'll be fully operational in 2028. We would expect to start seeing, let me say, some we'll have double expenses while we take out the old platforms and the old technology. So we would expect to see a reduction in revenues sorry, a reduction in expenses for 2028 and downward, at least from an overall point of view.

Speaker #4: We're expecting to see some revenues from the bond clearance for this year, but really nothing significant—nothing that moves the needle. So, expect them for 2027 with the launching of the repo services.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: And regarding Indeval in the cloud, yes, we're expecting to have the new platform for Indeval towards the end of 2027. So it'll be fully operational in 2028. We would expect to start seeing, let me say, some we'll have double expenses while we take out the old platforms and the old technology. So we would expect to see a reduction in revenues sorry, a reduction in expenses for 2028 and downward, at least from an overall point of view.

Speaker #4: And regarding Indaval in the cloud, yes, we're expecting to have our the new platform for Indaval towards the end of So it'll be fully operational in 2028.

Speaker #4: We would expect to start seeing, let me say, some— we'll have double expenses while we take out the old platforms and the old technology.

Speaker #4: So we would expect to see a reduction in revenues sorry, a reduction in expenses. In expenses. For 2028 and onward. At least from an overall point of

Speaker #4: So we would expect to see a reduction in revenues sorry, a reduction in expenses. In expenses. For 2028 and onward. At least from an overall point of view.

Speaker #6: Okay. No, perfect. Thank you very much, Ramon. Very helpful.

[Analyst]: Okay. No, perfect. Thank you very much, Ramón. Very helpful.

Ernesto Gabilondo: Okay. No, perfect. Thank you very much, Ramón. Very helpful.

Speaker #4: Thank you, Ernesto.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you, Ernesto.

Speaker #2: And this now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jorge Alagria. Please go

Operator: This now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Jorge Alegría. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: ahead.

Speaker #4: Thank you. Thank you very much.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you. Thank you very much, again, to everyone. We had a very, very active, excuse me. I think we may have another question. Sorry. Apparently, we had one more person lining up.

Speaker #4: Again, to everyone, this—we had a very, very active—excuse me, I think we may have another question. Sorry, apparently we had one more.

Speaker #4: person lining up. Oh,

Speaker #2: Okay, yes. We have a question from Pablo Ordonez.

Operator: Okay. Yes. We have a question from Pablo Ordóñez with GBM.

Speaker #2: GBM. Okay.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Okay. Go ahead. Then I'll keep my remarks for later.

Speaker #4: Go ahead. And then I'll keep my remarks for later.

Speaker #7: Hi. Hi. Good morning. Can you hear me?

[Analyst]: Hi. Hi, good morning. Can you hear me?

Pablo Ordóñez: Hi. Hi, good morning. Can you hear me?

Speaker #4: Yes, Pablo.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Yes, Pablo.

Speaker #7: Hi. Good morning, Jorge Ramón Hanna. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just quickly, how should we think in terms of the payout for dividends and buybacks for the next three years?

[Analyst]: Hi. Good morning, Jorge. Ramón, Hannah, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just quickly, how should we think in terms of the payout for dividends and buybacks for the next three years? And are you considering using some part of the MXN 3.7 billion that you're still holding in your balance sheet for dividends and buybacks in this cycle of CAPEX? And also, a second question is maybe if you can help us with some magnitudes of how should we think of the additional revenues for the debt CCP once that you start rolling out the repos business in 2027. Thank you.

Pablo Ordóñez: Hi. Good morning, Jorge. Ramón, Hannah, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just quickly, how should we think in terms of the payout for dividends and buybacks for the next three years? And are you considering using some part of the MXN 3.7 billion that you're still holding in your balance sheet for dividends and buybacks in this cycle of CAPEX? And also, a second question is maybe if you can help us with some magnitudes of how should we think of the additional revenues for the debt CCP once that you start rolling out the repos business in 2027. Thank you.

Speaker #7: And are you considering using some part of the 3.7 billion that you're still holding in your balance sheet for dividends and buybacks in this cycle of CAPEX?

Speaker #7: And also, a second question is maybe if you can help us with some magnitudes of how we should think of the additional revenues for the debt CCP once you start rolling out the repo business.

Speaker #7: In 2027. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you, Pablo. For the dividend this year, our distribution is going to be a dividend of 71% of net income, and we're doing a buyback of at least another 10%.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you, Pablo. For the dividend, this year, our distribution is going to be a dividend of 71% of net income and doing a buyback of at least another 10%. We will try to keep this cash distribution at this 80% level of net income. That's at least, let's say, our guideline. And we estimate that in spite of the investments we're doing, that's fully achievable. And this will be for next year and after that as well. We could have additional on buybacks, yes, but let's take the guideline as at least around 80% of distribution. Regarding your second question on the additional revenues from the repo services, we don't have an estimate on that yet. It's a big market. It's about 100 billion pesos in average daily, no, $100 billion in daily volume. So we're still working on the fee to get that.

Speaker #4: This we will keep. We'll try to keep our cash distribution at this 80% level of net income. That's at least, let's say, our guideline.

Speaker #4: And we estimate that in spite of the investments we're doing, that's fully achievable. And this will be for next year. And after that as well.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: And this will be for next year and after that as well. We could have additional on buybacks, yes, but let's take the guideline as at least around 80% of distribution. Regarding your second question on the additional revenues from the repo services, we don't have an estimate on that yet. It's a big market. It's about 100 billion pesos in average daily, no, $100 billion in daily volume. So we're still working on the fee to get that. But when we have additional information on that, we'll let you know.

Speaker #4: We could have additional on the buybacks. Yes, but let's take the guideline as at least or around 80% of distribution. Regarding your second question, on the additional revenues from the repo services, we don't have an estimate on that yet.

Speaker #4: It's a big market. It's about 100 billion pesos in average daily no, 100 billion dollars. In daily volume. So we're still working on the fee.

Speaker #4: To get that. But when we have additional information on that, we'll let you know.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: But when we have additional information on that, we'll let you know.

Speaker #7: Okay. Perfect. Thank you very much,

[Analyst]: Okay. Perfect. Thank you very much, Ramón and Jorge.

Pablo Ordóñez: Okay. Perfect. Thank you very much, Ramón and Jorge.

Speaker #7: Ramon and Jorge. Thank

Jorge Alegría Formoso: Thank you.

Speaker #2: And this does conclude the question and answer session, Jorge.

Operator: This does conclude the question and answer session. Jorge?

Speaker #4: Now it's my turn again. Thank you very much. And again, this 2025 proved to be a year where we realized and started to operate on our strategic plans for the next three, four, five years.

[Company Representative] (Bolsa Mexicana de Valores): No, now it's my turn again. Thank you very much. And again, this 2025 proved to be a year where we realized and started to operate on our strategic plans for the next three, four, five years. This year, we are going to be focusing on the execution of the plan, providing value to our shareholders. And we look forward for an exciting 2026 and onward. So thank you very much and talk to you soon.

Jorge Alegría Formoso: No, now it's my turn again. Thank you very much. And again, this 2025 proved to be a year where we realized and started to operate on our strategic plans for the next three, four, five years. This year, we are going to be focusing on the execution of the plan, providing value to our shareholders. And we look forward for an exciting 2026 and onward. So thank you very much and talk to you soon.

Speaker #4: This year, we are going to be focusing on the execution of the plan. Providing value to our shareholders. And we look forward for an exciting 2026 and onward.

Speaker #4: So thank you very much. And talk to you soon.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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